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The AWFUL Game That Forced Ken Stabler to RETIRE | Saints @ Cowboys (1984)
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- čas přidán 7. 05. 2021
- Ken Stabler is one of the greatest quarterbacks of all-time, and is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame for a reason. But the end of his career was a far cry from his prime, as his career ended in just about the worst way possible. In a 1984 game between the Dallas Cowboys and New Orleans Saints, Stabler played so poorly that he retired almost immediately after the game. This is the story behind the game that made Ken Stabler officially hang it up
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Kenny was my cousin . He had his problems later in life with DUI’s but he was always a good guy. Treated everyone like he wanted to be treated . Had some great times with him !
I loved ol Snake from his Foley high school days to the run in the mud beating Auburn thru his career thrashing the Vikings. No one and I mean NO ONE has any right to say an unkind word about Ken Stabler. He's the only man ever walked in his shoes.
I'd be proud to call him my cousin too buddy !
@@MAGAMANPATRIOT yeah its a sad world we live in people always wanna talk about the bad and ignore the good
When my greatgrandfather retired to Alabama he watched Stabler play at Foley. Five years later my cousin saw him play in one of two games in Spokane for the Continental Football League in Nov. '68. Then in the 70s I saw him on TV playing for Oakland. Now I'm almost old enough to be a greatgrandfather and the Raiders are in Vegas.
@@fletchbg crazy how things have changed so much
I grew up watching Snake and he's not the only quarterback to have very little left near the end of his career, As far as I'm concerned Kenny Stabler was one of the greatest ever and his Hall of fame induction was long overdue but he's in Canton where he belongs, win or lose Stabler had class and was a Super Bowl champion.
During the post game press conference Kenny Stabler said: “Looks like I picked the wrong day to quit drinking.”
👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿Oh Mandy you gave and you gave: Well played.
I had heard rumors that he had a drinking problem.
@@chrismachabee3128 🤣🤣Given the benefit of doubt. His college ball: The University of Alabama. He played for the Oakland Raiders. His nickname is the snake. To not have a drinking problem would be the news.
@Becks Bolero
Yeah, but Stabler had a lot of good days. He was one of the best. Alcohol ruined his life but, dude couplay the sopt when he was sober. sorry, you hate him so much. I actually have zero recolletions of him being drunk. I heard people say that about him, but I have no real time knowledge of it. so, to me, stabler reemains one the best osser ever to play. Live your life.
By God, that shot of Stabler warming up on the Saints sideline and he looks like 1990s George Carlin. He's 38 but doesn't look a day under 60.
I think it’s interesting that both when Stabler was at Alabama and after he retired from the NFL his face was not only clean shaven, but also looked slim. His face looked more round when he played in the NFL.
I ran into him at the super bowl in Arlington back in 2010. Dude looked like skeletor.
@@wesleyantrim6648 most of those raiders do
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He lived hard.
Read his autobiography, it is excellent.
If you don't think nutrition and training has come a long way, just remind yourself that Stabler warming up at 5:18 is nearly 6 years YOUNGER than Tom Brady is right now.
the gray hair did him no favors that's for sure
Speaking of gray hair, there was a guy named George Blanda who held up quite well for an old man in the 70s.
I suspect that Tom Brady has seen 2am far fewer times as Kenny Stabler had at that point in his career. And the number of gallons of alcohol goes heavily to Ken. It was a different time and a different mind set. Even now, the players that want to play hard off and on the field generally have pretty short careers with mighty ignoble endings. Kenny was the man, but no one (except Blanda and Brady) plays forever.
Plot Twist: Brady uses "Just For Men".
3 years younger. Not 6. Brady is 41 and Stabler was 38 when he retired.
It may not have ended happily for him, but Ken had an extraordinary career with an extraordinary franchise (Oakland) and participated in, and won, some of the most historic games played in the NFL.
And that is what people remember. So few people remember Stabler's post Raiders days, that some feel the need to make youtube videos about it.
It was definitely a bad last game, but Kenny stabler finished his career on top , among the greatest quarterbacks to ever played the game, he was truly fun to watch and one of the coolest guys ever to play football. But anyways as always great video and thank you for keeping the memory of these great athletes alive, good games or bad
220 ints 194 tds. Game and QB expectations DRAMATICALLY DIFFERENT 30 PLUS YEARS AGO.
Well said!
@@rontiemens2553 uh ok?
Bradshaw wrote in one of his books that there was one name that struck fear in the heart of those great Steelers' defenses and that was: "Kenny Stabler".
Stabler looks like he could be my dad here and I’m in my 30s! Good stuff as always.
Stabler always looked old. All those late night in the bars drinking it up
Stabler partied hard in the offseason and between games. All of the drinking, smoking, and drug use took its toll. Plus, QBs were nowhere near as protected then as they are now, so he got beat up on the field more than Brady.
@@82dorrin I know. I grew up in Oakland in the 60’s and 70’s and it wasn’t unusual to see Stabler and other Raiders players out on the town. I once ran into George Atkinson and Cliff Branch playing tennis at my local park, I had Otis Sistrunk visit my school and Clarence Davis knew my dad. Stabler was never into drugs though, just drink and ladies.
I've never seen a human being age as quickly as Stabler. I remember watching an interview with a former Raiders QB back in the mid-nineties, and when the caption came up: Kenny Stabler, I nearly fell off my chair - he was unrecognizable.
@@rufust.firefly4890 ... so I've heard.
Alcohol and cocaine aged him.
@@thecawdsquad875 ... horribly.
Imagine for a moment... in 1980 Stabler threw 13 touchdows vs 28 interceptions and still managed an 11/5 record. It was a different time.
Yeh, this guy leaves out Bradshaw was a career 50% passer with that D, second best line, behind Raiders, in football, Swan and Stallworth. Rules changes finally made passing easier and easier. And Bill Walsh was first to master them. Turned it into a dynasty because he was almost a decade ahead of the league in knowing how to best use massive '79 pass friendly rules changes.
Earl Campbell glossed over many of Stabler's warts in Houston
Prior to the west coast & spread offenses, it was actually pretty common for a lot of starting QB's to throw lower completion pct, more Int's than td's. Standard offensive schemes back then put the passing game largely in the QB's lap. Bill Walsh changed that by using the WR's in shorter sideline routes, and getting the TE into open space out in the middle instead of being an extra blocker. It took awhile for the rest of the league to catch up mentally, but it basically guaranteed at least 60% completions.
I know that game was bad game for Stabler, but he was great for the Raiders back in the 70’s. He was so good that if we got the ball with 2 minutes left, with the game in reach. There was no doubt we were gonna win
I remember seeing the game. Painful seeing my favorite player end his career on that note.
Hate to see a career end like that. Look at Marino's last game. Arguably the most talented quarterback of all time and his team gets beat 62-7.
I was there.. bummed
Greatness always comes to an end. No matter who you are.
@Sneaky Sneakerson I feel what Brady's achieved is unprecedented, it has to be the most positive result for a professional athlete in the four major sports, at least to this point. I'm happy for Brady, as he's getting what he wanted, to always have "The Next One".
Tom wouldn't have lasted as long under 80s and 90s NFL rules. It's a lot more common for a late 30- early 40 quarterback to be playing at a decent level because the Defense can't get to the quarterback quite like they did in the 80s and 90s. Also, diet, exercise and medicine has advanced so much in that time, too.
@@walker1984 yessir these guys didn’t cry when they got hit like Arron Rogers does wanting a flag. But yes I agree 100%.
@@walker1984 I think both of the reasons you gave are absolutely accurate; the late 1980's (post '85 Bears) were especially brutal for QB's.
@Sneaky Sneakerson More often than not.
Stabler was the oldest looking 38 I've ever seen.
That's not just genes, that's hard living, drinking and partying. It catches up to you.
@@kirkboss5316 Yes and he was dead at 69 years, no surprise there.
Philip Rivers just retired at 39. Put him side by side with the Snake in this video and everyone would think Rivers is by far the youngest.
I'm 59 and I don't look as old as he did in his last year. But I don't drink booze, don't smoke cigs or marijuana, and don't use street drugs or abuse prescription drugs. I was, however, recently diagnosed with diabetes so I will be avoiding sweets and soda pop from now on. Will be a longer list of things I don't partake of. LOL
Hard living and the Raiders can age a man before his time.
Stabler was a great quarterback but was from an era where guys lived normal lives during the off season and it showed during his final years where players started dieting and exercising year round.
Stabler drank like a fish and snorted mountains of cocaine during his playing days.
I thought Stabler was done after the end of the 1979 season. He got a phone call a little later on from Al Davis asking if he still wanted to be traded. After confirming that the Snake went to the Houston Oilers in return for their QB Dan Pastorini. I recall at the time that on paper it seemed like a deal that would benefit each team. Who could predict that Pastorini would go down with an injury early in the 1980 season. And on top of that have back up QB Jim Plunkett lead the Raiders on to a Super Bowl title.
Stabler was done after the 1977 season. The raiders failed to make the playoffs in 78 and 79. 9-7 both seasons. And, if it were not for the silly holly roller in 78, they would have only been 8-8.
IIRC, at the time, this was the latest starting game in NFL history because it followed a presidential debate.
9:45PM Eastern
When you think about it, that should have given Stabler an advantage
Being an OLD Steeler fan, Kenny "The Snake, should have retired after Oakland. He was a GREAAT QB in Oakland.
Oakland should have kept Ken Stabler, so he could have retired in Oakland.
5:17 Ken Stabler, the most interesting man in the world
He doesn't always drink beer, but when he does he prefers Dos Equis XX.
Stabler admitted in his biography that he played 2 years too long.
I loved ken, But I believed he played ago 5 years too long. He was done after 79 and actually his best seasons were done after 77
I remember this game like it was yesterday, as a huge Cowboys fan, it was a great comeback and actually settled the quarterback controversy with us. I do not recall that was the end of Stabler. I remember at the time we all called him Kenny Rogers just because he looked just like him.
I remember that game. Shocker of a come back on Monday Night, after most Cowboy fans had given up and turned in for the night.
I honestly thought he tanked the game, he played so bad
The "fumble" looked like a tuck rule incomplete pass. I think the refs got that one right.
Except the tuck rule didn't exist until 1999. This game took place in 1984.
The pass was backwards. That's a fumble.
Watching this shows how much the NFL has changed. When you look at Stabler and Namath stats you wonder how they made the HOF. They had way more interceptions than touchdown passes. Namath was the first QB to pass for 4000 yds. and he had the guaranteed victory in SBIII. Stabler won SBXI and the iconic Sea of Hands game against Miami in 1974 so that was enough to get them in. Statistics don’t always tell the true story like in math.
I like how you spiced up the “worse than if you spiked the ball on every single play” line on this one.
HE did NOT retire because of this game; he retired because he was demoted to third string.
I remember this game like it was yesterday. As a Redskins fan, did not like the outcome and felt that if the Saints had put Dave Wilson in they would have won the game.. but Bum Phillips was a very loyal coach. And yes, Stabler looked 60 and played at least that age.
When you play quarterback, past your prime go 2/9 with 30 yards and get intercepted twice in an NFL game, you know it’s time to retire
Stabler made his entire career off movie like clutch moments...he wasn’t ever a great QB just the guy who could show up at the right time
nah.ur wrong. he absolutely wz a great qb at times& clutch bunch of times. he lead the league twice in tds.that is a great qb.many of the great qbs haven't accomplished wat Ken Stabler has.
@@kevinmitchell4018 go look at his numbers and career QB rating...even for the time they’re absolutely dreadful...he had one good year and was blessed to be on the John Madden train ride
I honestly felt like Tebow was that kinda Qb but just my opinion
He was definitely a top 5 QB in his prime (regardless of numbers). I watched him play every Sunday from 1974-1978, (and beyond - he actually played well with Houston in his first year until that disastrous playoff loss to the Raiders).
I remember a sportswriter at the time observing that Stabler "looks like a scruffier version of Kenny Rogers - except Rogers' throwing arm is probably stronger." Ouch!
Stabler looking like St Peter on the sidelines 😂
He was still a great QB and a heck of a character
Love those New Orleans Saints uniforms ❤❤❤❤❤
Agree, much easier on the eyes than their current all black jerseys.
+@@jamesage24 U.S.F.L. Trump Arena underwear looks STUPID.
I think snake's off the field hard partying life style lead to his decline as much or more as the on field punishment. He was a heck of a QB and a guy who knew how to win in his prime .
Tom Brady is great cause he picks up new habits. He adapts to change well. Think about it. Stabler didn't really pick up modern habits in the 80's. It wasn't age....completely. He wasn't as swift footed as he was in the 70's but if he picked up reading defense and practicing more precise passes and understanding his receiver's patterns and their physical skills then he would not be throwing 28 interceptions to 13 touchdowns
Stabler also had great pass protection in Oakland, not so much in Houston or New Orleans. If his Saints years were his Oilers years he would have had HOFers Mike Munchak and Bruce Matthews blocking for him. However, best-case scenario is that Stabler goes from being turrible to being mediocre.
It wasn't easy to study back then. Everything was analog. Film, vhs tape. It took a lot of time to look at game footage. Hard to copy (or multiple copy) and share.
Now everything is digital and you can jump to specific time in an instant and easier to share.
@@someperson8151 You're right. Most players were done by 30 so it's not anything against that football legend. Modern medical science and modern training and coaching has a lot of influence. Guys who are naturally gifted are special. Natural gifts come in many shades...they may say someone like Tom Brady isn't naturally gifted but he is in work ethic and being 6'3/4 is nothing to scoff at. So everyone with that winners mindset can excel at different things
Brady also has benefitted from a shitload of rule changes...
Your page is amazing my friend, truly glad I found it.
I remember watching this game. This was one time that a one time great player was so clearly done that everyone knew it as they watched.
Reminds me of when Bills CB Vonte Davis retired at halftime in their week 2 game against the Chargers in 2018.
@@matthewdaley746 Y'know, as a Bills fan, he's forgotten. With what the team is now, he's just a guy who got worked through the process.
That was hilarious.
Kenny is my all-time favorite athlete. It was hard to watch his last 4 seasons.
Well no wonder it took him so long to get into Canton. Those last five seasons were horrendous. And all of that bad gets into career statistics.
Joe Theismann 's last game was worst.
Nice historical lookback oon Stabler. Very well put together. I always wondered what happened to him.
How the hell old are you idiots? Just f**king asking.
That was hard to watch. When you reach the end, it can be ugly sometimes.
I hated Stabler back then, and that's sad cause I meet him and he was the coolest guy I'd ever meet. Talked to me like we were old friends from way back just really nice guy.
The many years of punishment Stabler's body had taken not just on the field from opposing defenses, but off the field from his own hedonistic lifestyle, simply caught up with him, and it showed in this game.
Died of cancer and was discovered he had serious brain injury after many years of concussions.
That's either the best or the worst hair ever....just can't decide which
Lifelong Saints fan here.
I remember this game.
The simple fact is that the Snake was washed up when Bum Philips brought him to New Orleans. Kenny should've retired but like so many athletes; he didn't know when to say "when".
Bum made some seriously bone-headed moves starting with trading Archie Manning to the Oilers in 1982 for OT Leon Grey.
Leon Grey had been an All-Pro in the 70's but was also washed up by the time he got here.
He also traded the Saints' #1 pick in 1985 to the Oilers for Earl Campbell; another washed up former All-Pro.
Incredibly, Bum drafted some amazing talent in New Orleans including future NFL Hall of Famers OLB Rickey Jackson and K Morten Andersen. A large part of the Saints' first playoff team in 1987 were drafted by Philips.
Trading Wes Chandler was another bonehead move
Moondog83: Trading Chandler... Oh God, yeah! And trading George Rogers away AFTER trading FOR Campbell.
Bum made so many #BONEHEAD moves in NOLA that I couldn't remember them all.
@@lespauldisciple3349 also, changing the offense to a outdated run, oriented offense, which they already had a good offense from the previous 3 seasons. Just needed to improve the defense
Stabler smoked cigarettes and the off-season was one big bender. That's probably why he aged so quickly
Stabler was the best QB in the NFL during the 70s. Had he stayed in Oakland his career would've ended much stronger. The Raiders won 2 Super Bowls after he left. They would have maybe won 3 more instead of 2 with Stabler
The Raiders didnt want him. Al Davis knew he was done. Hell, anyone with any football sense could see he was through when they got rid of him.
@@dondajulah4168 He could've been functional behind the Raiders OL. He had a solid 1979 season with the Raiders but his best days were behind him. Stabler was the best QB during the 70s. He was magical in big games & he had an incredible record as a starter 69-26-1. He played with concussions, bad knees, and probably a few hangovers. He led the Raiders to the AFC Championship in 73,74,75,76,77 and with a few breaks and calls going in his favor he could have won 5 or 6 Super Bowls in the 70s ... 72 was the immaculate reception so that is where I get 6 Super Bowls. Ironically the year after Stabler was traded the Raiders won the Super Bowl without him. Every team that beat Oakland in the AFC championship (except for Den 77) went on to win the SB
+@@randyhanson4973 Sorry! Terry Bradshaw, Steelers. 4 Championsips in 6 years. Not even Montana or Brady accomplished that. Bob Griese 3 Superbowls in a row. Lost first one, undefeated next. Won again 1973. Miami Dolphins.
That Dallas field had an unusually tall crown so those sideline throws could be over the receiver’s head if the quarterback didn’t adjust well.
I remember watching that game .....
So bad it looked like he was “ throwing the game “. Lot like Namath , too many knee injuries. Need a good base to throw a football.
Stabler's a highly polarizing figure, which is one reason it took so long for him to get into the HOF. Extremely naturally talented QB, but per Dave Casper was never much into studying the game or learning the game plan. Like Favre, very much a gunslinger and gambler who'd put it into coverage if he thought he could force it between guys, hence his high INT numbers. You pretty much either loved or hated how "Snake" played, there wasn't a lot of in between.
@Ted Morlock Yep.Obvious pathetic point shavers af too.
Ken Stabler’s pass attempt at 6:38 looked similar to a pass attempt he had in the Sea of Hands game 10 years earlier.
I didn't know Kenny Rogers played in the NFL!! 😉👍
I remember this Stabler last game. I always thought it was the hit by Randy White 5:50 that caused Stabler to cough it up in the endzone that forced Kenny to decide to Retire. Although I mistakenly believed that Randy's hit on Stabler's was Kenny's last play ever.
When you can't be honest with yourself. His time at Houston should have been enough to convince him to walk away.
The Tuck Rule begin here!!!
To be fair, Stabler had taken so many beatings by the end of his career that he was a physical wreck. He shouldn't have ever passed a physical. Officials didn't protect quarterbacks back then.
I never knew Kenny Stabler was a Oiler and a Saint I thought he retired as a Raider shortly after he won the Super Bowl against the Vikings.
Inspite of that video of Kenny's unfortunate last games.. Ken Stabler's legacy is etched in stone. Thank you Snake
I still remember Dandy Don clearly pulling for Stabler in that game but he did say Kenny "looked like Moses". Ok, youve seen his last crap game, now watch Raiders at New Orleans, my favorite game ever where Stabler gets damn near killed but them leads the Raiders back from like 28-3 for the win.
This game very nearly caused the Saints to end up leaving New Orleans. Original owner John Mecom, who considered Bum Phillips a father figure and said when he hired him in 1981, that Bum would pick the next coach when he decided to retire....(naturally that would have been his son, Wade), decided he had enough after 18 losing seasons...
The Hyatt-controlling Pritzker family nearly bought the team and was absolutely going to move them to Jacksonville. Local major auto businessman Tom Benson stepped in and acquired the team as a majority owner, with some other local investors, whom he bought out several years later.. I thought he got ripped off for a $70,000 price-tag.
Mecom acquired the franchise in 1967 for a league fee of $10,000.
Today, NFL franchises are selling for $2.5B.
Have you made a video about Stabler’s return to Oakland in the 1980 Wild Card game between the Oilers and Raiders? That was a classic game. And a very bad day for Stabler, (my favorite QB of all time along with Jim Kelley and Warren Moon).
Stabler looked terrible in 1980 too. Just look at his numbers.
In spite of Stabler's horrible 1983 season, the Saints were a last second field goal away from making the playoffs for the first time ever.
The Rams kicked a field goal on the last play of the last game of the season to beat the Saints by two to get the last NFC Wild Card spot.
I had to go back and watch highlights of Ken Stabler to wash my eyes of the shit I saw in this video.
The Raiders, still haven't had a QB as good as Stabler in his prime and prime is the operative word here. That guy playing QB for the Oilers & Saints , with Stabler on his jersey was not the "snake " that could take over a game and bring his team back, regardless of how far they were behind. Go Hawks
I’m still taking Raiders Jim Plunkett though
@@hoodiejelo6456
Stabler, personality and performances along with a brutal D, defined the mystique of the Raiders. JP, may have 2 rings but was not as instrumental in their titles as KS. Also, KS, might have more rings but he had to contend with the 70's Steelers, the greatest, most complete team in NFL history. When Plunkett took over the Steelers were in decline and later Marcus Allen, was their offense, MVP. Go Hawks
@@matthewdaley746
I am not questioning how great the Mad Stork, was or if the two Jack's were better than him. However, with or without Hendricks both offense & defense the Steelers, were better. And it was Stabler, who led their come from behind victories . Go Hawks
@@matthewdaley746
Totally agree. Funny you should say that , yesterday, my young cousin and I were watching Pro Football Talk, and Bradshaw, was ripping Aaron Rodgers. We're British, and I have been educating her about the NFL. I told her how the Steelers, had missed the opportunity to pick Marino, a Pittsburgh, native who would have guaranteed them a title or two. Anyway every team in the NFL has a story about the draft pick they got wrong , that might have changed the course of their history. Also if Don Shula, was a better GM, he might drafted a RB, and have a running game compliment their passing game . Look at what Terrell Davis did for John Elway. Go Hawks
@@matthewdaley746
Yep, Shula, certainly was, also he never replaced replaced Clayton & Duper or the " Killer B's " defence. I am not favour HC/ GM , role, Bill Belichick, has drafted terribly recently. He could have Nick Chubb and DK Metcalf, instead he picked Sony Michael and N,Keal Harry. Go Hawks
Cover the Eli Herring story. The guy turned down the NFL despite being a 1st-3rd round pick due to religious beliefs. But the raiders pick him anyway and went to great lengths to sign him including offering $500k and sending people from his church to change his mind he's been a teacher ever since
Why is everyone ignoring the elephant in the room? Stabler had a relationship with a bookie as an active player. Did he throw games? Maybe. Just look at the inexplicable interceptions he used to throw when he was an Oakland Raider. Stabler being inducted into the HOF is a joke. Same as Joe Namath. He went to the HOF based on his Superbowl III victory. Had a losing record as a starting QB until his retirement.
I kept scrolling to see if somebody would bring that up. As an oiler fan, I was too young watching those games to figure out how he threw some of those picks. A few years later, it began to make sense...
Give Kenny Stabler the ball on the 20 plus 3 timeouts and he could make the last two minutes of a game or half last about 45 minutes. And that was before you could spike the ball to kill the clock.
@@matthewdaley746 You clearly do not know of what you are speaking about as it is surely not the Immaculate Reception game. Replacing Lamonica, Stabler ran for a 30 yard touchdown the last time he touched the ball in the Immaculate Reception game to give the Raiders their only lead 7-6 with 1:13 remaining. Oakland then kicked the ball back to Pittsburgh after the extra point. The Steelers scored with the immaculate Reception on 4th down of that last drive to win the game as time ran out. As for your imaginary sack Stabler could have taken or the "pride" Stabler "refused to swallow", you clearly are confused. You should watch the last two minutes of the game yourself (posted below) instead of talking authoritatively about these things: czcams.com/video/6CC_y848Kq4/video.html
@@matthewdaley746 yeah, "whatevr" Beavis..... but the Raider defense on the last play has nothing to do with Stabler.......or the whole fake narrative you just invented about Stabler refusing to "take a sack" or letting his pride get in the way" or "letting the clock run out"......sheesh....
I really wish Stabler was elected to the Hall of Fame when he was still living; I know the end of his career wasn't spectacular (the Saints were at least competitive when he was their QB, although the bulk of that was strong defense) and Paul Zimmerman said he'd never vote for him, but his 1973-76 seasons & countless playoff runs (also one championship) should've been enough. Cliff Branch too; no HoF for him either, and I feel there was absolutely no reason for him not to be elected.
Stabler talked about the end of his career during one of the TNT Sunday Night Football postgame; he said something to the effect that Bum Philips gently implied that maybe it was time to call it a career.
Ken Stabler will always be remembered as a great Alabama and Oakland Raider Quarterback. Al Davis should have never let Ken go to Houston.
Early on it looked like the jets and everyone knew he was only throwing out routs and they just jumped it all the time at that point...his arm was gone. In the 70s he benefited from Oakland's vertical passing game, again he had the arm to get it there.
Lastly and most importantly he did not take care of himself being 38 at retirement looking 60!
I don't even have to watch the video. I remember watching the game while I was in College. New Orleans against Dallas. I SO SO SO wanted New Orleans to win. And they should have. They led 20-19 and had the ball pinned deep. Very deep. All the Saints had to do is run the clock. Then Safety, 21-20 Dallas, and Dallas gets the ball back. The next day Stabler retires from Football. So sad.
That wasn't this game, that one was the previous year. This one Cowboys won 30-27 in OT
I am Oilers fan . He was horrible in Houston. Bum should have been fired for that Stabler/ Pastorini trade ..
he was a chronic alcoholic but that was what made him so good with Da Raida's, but that hard drinking wore him out when he reached the saints.
If they would've knew more about weight training and eating he might have played longer but he liked his beer and I think he smoked cigs but it was cool back then and nobody but a few lifted and I think you could count on your hand QBs that lifted but could be pass and move when young and he deserves the hall of fame.
Stabler famously said he studied the playbook by the light of the jukebox.
LOL, you really think that if Stabler would have known that drinking and smoking were bad for you, he would have changed his lifestyle? Not only that, the game took a MUCH greater toll on the body
It's not rocket science, and it wasn't the stone age. Everyone knew cigarettes and 🍺 wasn't good for you. But if confronted with this knowledge Stabler be like "oh I'm sorry, you must have mistaken me for someone who gives a damn".
Pastorini got Theismanned in Oakland and some guy named Jim Plunkett came in to substituted for him. I wonder how he did. :). Pastorini disappeared only to surface in Texas and make Ken Stabler look sober.
46 on the Saints was Hokie Gajan, not Earl Campbell.
I was at Stablers last game in Dallas. I was hoping that the Saints would bring in Wilson.
Meanwhile the saints need to bring bac the black shirts n white pants combo very nice
Unfortunately Bum wasn't the best judge of talent.
Bum surrounded himself with a bunch of bums
+@@cutehumor So True.
Of course, Stabler had a series of serious knee injuries that slowly ruined his career. Like Namath, he didn't make it out of Tuscaloosa before suffering his first one, rendering his nickname "Snake" moot before he ever got to show his slithery evasiveness and running ability to the NFL. I understand he had two more surgeries while in the NFL. Neither the oilers nor, esp, Saints, had anything like the blue chip O-line he had at Oakland.
Also, remember Q-backs of that era didn't get the same protection because for most of Stables career, the major rules changes ('79) had not occurred that made protected, precision passing much easier (done deliberately by NFL to add more scoring "for the casual fan"). Rules allowing O-line to use hands, "greater emphasis" on calling pass interference, 5-yd arbitrary contact rule...were in effect for all careers from the Elway, Kelly, Marino era onward. Later came tackle box grounding nonsense.
Despite repeated warnings from executives of the Oakland Raiders, Ken Stabler, one of the most successful quarterbacks in professional football, persisted in his association with a well-known New Jersey gambling figure who is an associate of the Princeton-based Simone DeCavalcante organized crime family.
What happened in 1984 that was Southern-style? Was it because the New Orleans Saints were members of the NFC West Division when they played an NFL game with the Dallas Cowboys in 1984?
That hit Snake took, at that fumble was probably the meanest of the 80s.
Kenny Stabler, a true NFL character and one of my all time favorites. The dude just hung on too long. RIP Kenny.
Ron Fellows, who intercepted Stabler's final pass, was diagnosed with Alzheimer's in 2015, the same year Stabler passed away.
The snake was a true pro. Never celebrated good or bad. Just trotted off the field.
So tough to watch an absolute legend end it in a disastrous way. Snake was at least the 3rd best QB of the 70's and deserved his spot in Canton about 20 years before they let him in. That's coming from a guy who doesn't even like the Raiders.
0:37 He helped guide the Raiders to their SECOND Super Bowl in franchise history, their first Super Bowl victory.
Good catch. Raiders lost Superbowl II.
Yes, was just about to say this
Daryl LaMonica was the QB who led those 67’ Raiders to the AFL Championship, the Mad Bomber!
If this kid doing this video can’t even get that simple fact right, why bother watching the rest of this? I didn’t
You can add Peyton Mannings last game too. The broncos won inspite of Peyton, not because of.
Not to give an excuse, but Stabler never had a great offense for the Saints. It was always the defense that gave the Saints chances to win. Bum built the basic corps of what become Jim Mora's team.
@@travismcdonald6576 This is disingenuous. Bum brought in the core of what would be a successful franchise, . Jim Wilks, Frank Warren, Jumbo Elliott, Jumpy Geathers, Eric Martin, Bobby Hebert, John Tice, Hoby Brenner, Brett Maxi, and Ricky Jackson (Honorable mentioned Jack Del Rio). These guys were added before Jim Finks walked in the door. Jim Finks hired Jim Mora. Jim Mora was more than just a coach, he brought higher expectations. The Woulda, coulda, shoulda speech proved to be the turning point.
Still the coolest auarterback in nfl history, he shouldve been a Raider for his entire career.
I had no idea he played for anyone other than The Raiders till I saw this video. And I really know my football.
@@chadneumann2772 yeah he was the man, i read a story were @ mardi gras he yelled "show us your boobs" to some girls who replied "show us your knees" referencing his injured knees. He was great though, the coolest quarterback in league history in my humble opinion.
@@hockeyfan1988 The only other quarterback I can think of that might have a claim to be as cool as stabler is fellow Alabama quarterback Broadway Joe. He was cool in a different way, but you get the idea. Stabler played in Houston before New Orleans?? And Bum Phillips coached The Saints after Houston??? I never knew any of that!! Wow!! I also didn't know that Earl Campbell played for the Saints after Houston as well. I guess bum was taking everybody with him huh? Lol
@@chadneumann2772 yup, and it paved the way for a new era of Raiders like jim plunkett to become Raider legends but everyone loves #12, namath was cool, but i think what gives stabler the edge is that he was more relateable as a person to the viewer, were as broadway joe was sort of larger than life, even after he was a jet and became a Ram.
@@hockeyfan1988 Totally agree. Stabler strikes me as the type of guy if you went up to him at the bar and were like dude you're my favorite quarterback, he would buy you a beer and tell you to come to his booth you know? he just seemed like a regular guy I think that's what people loved about him. Way before my time, but my dad loved him. I'm almost 39, so I started getting into football in the early 90s but I've always loved the older stuff. And stabler played back when you could do things to quarterbacks that is only legal in the UFC now. That guy was tough.
I had forgotten all about Stabler ending up in New Orleans
Ken Stabler was beneficial of years of old highlights. His numbers as a QB is very low to be H.O.F.
I think they're alright for their era. Pre-1978, I think Len Dawson, Sonny Jurgensen, and Roger Staubach posted the best numbers, with Johnny Unitas not far behind, and pioneers like Sammy Baugh & Sid Luckman pretty good as well. Also an honorable mention to Otto Graham: good numbers, and always played in a championship game.
The SNAKE was the man........and I hate the Raiders........but the SNAKE was a man's man......
When the Raiders beat his Oilers down in the 80 playoffs...it was over..
I liked one of his famous sayings. You don't need eight hours of sleep to play a four hour game. 😎
Still dont get how the third best quarterback of a decade had to wait to die to get in the hall of fame
Despite repeated warnings from executives of the Oakland Raiders, Ken Stabler, one of the most successful quarterbacks in professional football, persisted in his association with a well-known New Jersey gambling figure who is an associate of the Princeton-based Simone DeCavalcante organized crime family.