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The EXACT MOMENT Norm Van Brocklin Got FIRED by the Falcons
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- čas přidán 2. 12. 2020
- Following an NFL 1974 week 8 game between the Atlanta Falcons and Miami Dolphins, after spending seven seasons with the team, Norm Van Brocklin finally got fired. And the reason behind why is absolutely crazy.
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Van Brocklin still holds the NFL record for most passing yards (554) in a game.
Was still an @$$hole
I've watched a bunch of these videos from the 70s into early 80s (I became an NFL fan around 1984)...man what a different world. I thought my older cousins telling me stuff like this when I was a kid was them making it up! And he was smoking on the sidelines too, lol
How about Joe Namath in his mink coat & sunglasses on the sidelines!
@@jamesage24 1985 Jim McMahon...
When you described the game that Bob Griese had, I fully expected to hear, "Which was better than if he spiked the ball into the ground on every play!" And then 10 seconds later, there it was! 🤣😂🤣😂
On Tommy Nobis: "He could stack furniture with the best of them". Great vid. Atlanta had even worse management at the time, Rankin was terrible
His "Rankin" had to have been 26th out of 26 teams then in the league....
Blank is worse.
@@thunderlightning1980lol trash take troll. Blank has his faults but there isn't comparison
He took over an expansion team in Minnesota and had them at 8-5-1 in 4 years. He took over a poor team in Atlanta and had them at 9-5 in 5 years. Not making the playoffs was a more a result of the teams he took over than his merit as a coach.
What exactly did he achieve as a coach? He wore out his welcome long before management canned him. I mean, if we want to go there, John McKay took an 0 - 14 (really 0 - 26) JV squad in 76' - 77', to the NFCCG in their 4th year. Actually won some meaningful games. Norm was a terrible coach. He was a winner as a player, a loser as a coach.
@@eugenedenbrook322 how well have you faired in life?
While in Atlanta he was the head coach and general manager so he was responsible for acquiring the players once he got there. So he is responsible 100%. Also Norm had some unusual behavior when he coached the Vikings. In 1965 he quit the Vikings in the middle of the season and then unquit the next day.
Amazing how they made big plays back then and acted non Chalant as opposed to today if they make a tackle it’s a parade Lol
Yeah they run to the opposite end zone and start posing and celebrating like they just won the super bowl, just for a tackle where the running back gained 3 yards. It makes it ridiculous to watch and hilarious honestly 😂😂
They act like they should get a ticker-tape parade
@@jcar4lifemancity4life5 why do folks like cry and whine so much about it. God forbid they have fun out there
@@johnwade7963 I’m not crying and whining I’m just saying it’s funny and ridiculous…my personal opinion, ya don’t gotta like it or agree buddy. Happy 4th hope the rest of it is great for you!!
Same with baseball. A home run in the World Series used to be a few hand shakes at the plate, then back to the dugout. Now it's a bat flip, stare down, some weird touching with the third base coach, point to the sky upon reaching home, and wrap it up with individual choreographed hand gestures with each player.
I think what worked in Van Brocklin's favor in being such a long-tenured coach without a playoff berth is that he coached two expansion teams, but it's still a factual statistic nonetheless.
John McKay took the Bucs from expansion laughing stock to the NFC Championship Game in 4 seasons without any players of Tommy Nobis's pedigree. What's Norm's excuse?
@@GetBenched2010 The Buccaneers built a pretty good team, definitely better than any Falcons team Van Brocklin fielded. I don't know if that was ALL Van Brocklin's fault, but yeah, one has to like what the expansion Bucs became (I think Ken Herock was a strong GM, but many unanswered questions remain about how the Falcons were ran for years; of course, later Herock became Falcons GM, and he seemed to know what he was doing there. With the Brett Favre drafting/trade circumstance, it's more of a timing thing to me: if the coaching staff was different and the Falcons were rebuilding, that could've turned out differently). That defense did have Lee Roy Selmon though, and I feel it's difficult to compare what a D-lineman does vs. a linebacker, but the Bucs drafting him with their first-ever pick, I feel, was a great pick.
On another note, Tommy Nobis should be in the Pro Football Hall of fame:-).
@@gluserty The Bucs built an 0 - 26 team, and McKay took them to the NFCCG in their 4th year. I'm sorry, but Norm was a terrible coach. That's not my opinion. That's not my professional coaching insight. His numbers suck. 2 yrs after Minny won 8 games, they won 4, he was canned.
He was over .500 once in Atlanta, in a mediocre (at best) division, never making the playoffs.
I think (and this is my opinion here) his style whipped young and new players into form (like when I was at boot camp). But he was a hard a$$ 24 - 7, and couldn't ever turn it off. That doesn't go well with being an average Xs and Os, game manager.
@@eugenedenbrook322 I feel that remains an impressive feat, considering the Bucs were just thrown out there to get beaten and that McKay was a lifelong college coach with no NFL ties (McKay did like to wear his hats though). Thankfully, the NFL has since made it easier for expansion teams to A.) begin play with more hopeful possibilities B.) Improve quickly (it didn't help that the Bucs were created in an era that lacked a bevy of draft prospects; their expansion brother Seahawks caught a break with Jim Zorn & Steve Largent).
@@gluserty Yes, it's much better. Gosh, those first few years were brutal for expansion fans. I was really impressed with Carolina & Jacksonville in their 2nd years. That was crazy!
Van Brocklin was an amazing QB in his day, but was never suited to be a coach on pro level
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He helped put together an outstanding team in Minnesota
‘74 was my first season as a devoted Falcons fan. The collapse that season after being a very competitive team the last few years before set the tone for this franchise. Utter dysfunction top to bottom.
I believe that Van Brocklin should have made a comeback at the age of 48 - the Falcons' quarterbacks that year were woeful, including being sacked 50 times in 430 plays with two Pro Bowlers as offensive linemen.
In fact, the Falcons were last in all offensive categories that year (sorry to mention this).
@@MRB16th right?! That clip of him during warm-ups was very telling. Still very skilled and talented. Great form for a 48 year old. Odds are if he wasn't offered the Eagles head coach position after the 1960 championship before they reneged and ultimately was forced into the Vikings gig, he would have went on for several more years as a championship quarterback. Possibly would have led the Eagles to more championships but Buck Shaw meant allot to him.
He also attempted to draft John Wayne in 1970
Hmmmm?
The black jersey/red helmet combo looks great!
0:58
Absolutely! Need to go back to those.
Van Brocklin made failing upward an art form.
Lmao
This team had one of the worst scoring offenses of all time in the post-merger era. Just 111 points for the whole season, an average of just 7.9 points per game. I believe only the 1977 Bucs were worse at 103 points (7.4 points per game)
the 1977 Falcons were close, like 112 points. (Ironically thanks to Glanville's Gritz Blitz, they held opponents to even less.)
The 1977 Bucs was only their second year in the NFL. They went 2-12 and didn't get their first win until Week 13 (losing 26 in a row from their winless first season). So...that's almost even worse, since expansion teams start pretty rough, while 1974 was the Falcons' ninth season in the NFL. 😅
"THEY GOT ABSOLUTELY WHOOPED"
Van Brocklin coached so long because he was the first coach for two expansion teams, the Vikings and the Falcons, when the deck was really stacked against expansion teams. I think it took Landry 7 years to have any success.
Norb Hecker preceded Van Brocklin in Atlanta.
Correct about Landry in Dallas-the Cowboys were ridiculously bad in their first season in 1960 (only a tie with the Giants prevented a reverse perfect record of 0-12, and that was only because with Landry's experience as the Giants DC the previous six years, he knew how to exploit their few weaknesses and the Cowboys scored 31 points that day) and it was in their 7th season in '66 that they made the postseason.
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Love VanBrocklin!!! Still holds the single game passing record from 1952 game where he threw for 544 yards. Loved him talking about tightening up immigration rules when a foreign kicker won a game. It was hilarious. After winning the NFL championship in 1960 for the Eagles he was hired to be the Eagles head coach in 1961 & got fired before he coached a game. Do a CZcams search on “Norm VanBrocklin top 100.”
Truer words have never been spoken.
As an Eagles fan NVB is a legend in Philadelphia...most however dont remember him as a coach tho 🤣 smoking cigarettes, cursing, fighting haha
Members of my family who played for him said he was a good player but had no idea how to coach.
Which members of your family, might I ask?
Tom Landry had a keen sense of humor away from the sidelines.
Hence his joke.
After he was done with coaching, VanBrocklin was diagnosed with a brain tumor. He had surgery to have it removed. He died in 1983 at the age of 57 because of a heart attack. I’m just wondering if that brain tumor had anything to do with his extremely weird behavior in his last season with the Falcons.
This guy made Jim Mora look reserved and levelheaded…
Fran Tarkenton said that Van Brocklin had conflicts with EVERYONE.
Harmon now listen Harmon this is the NFL do you know what that means Harmon? This is professional football. Haha This is the NFL son
Love that clip!@@Youngpinevr
LIke most Bulldogs, Fran was a major whiner.
Van Brocklin challenging a reporter to a fight is bad enough, but he was fool enough to do this while Rankin Smith was at the OB? Wow. Van Brocklin needed to be gone anyway.
Maybe he should also consider himself lucky that nobody he challenged had a fork and was willing to use it like Abdullah The Butcher.
The Dolphins home winning streak reached 31, which is still the NFL record. Sadly they haven't even made a Super Bowl, let alone win one, since moving from the Orange Bowl to what is now Hard Rock Stadium.
If TV cameras had been at the postgame press conference that day, you would've been able to show Norm VanBrocklin's threats.
Defenses started to go to zones and Van Brocklin never made the adjustment.
I heard Daryle Lamonica had the same problem with not adjusting to zone defense as an active quarterback, which was a factor in him not being an active QB much longer after zones became in vogue.
@@gluserty Kenny Stabler went into length about this in his book. Daryle had a hell of an arm but his weakness was his refusal to aim it.
@@GetBenched2010 Yeah, seems he was a 'bombs away!" kind of guy (nicknamed "The Mad Bomber"), and since the Raiders played bump and run, if he wanted to dissect zone he'd have to likely learn it for himself. I'll give him a break on that since he was already far along into his career and didn't want to change his style, plus the Raiders had Stabler ready to go. In the end, I'd take Stabler over Lamonica, since Stabler was more of a technician, but I do realize that Lamonica had an extremely productive stretch of play.
Even Tom Landry laughed at him..... !
A record was played on the radio in the region as 1974 developed into the disaster it was. It was called "The Faltering Falcon".
1974 was the peak year of novelty songs for sure as pop culture transitioned from the psychedelic/hippie era to the disco era.
Ban Brocklin was channeling Frank Costanza. "YOU WANT A PIECE OF ME!"
Hey Carl,
Larry Brown wore #43. Great running back for the Redskins.
What a nincompoop. I don’t know if I spelled it correctly, but that’s a good old word to describe Van Brocklin.
Like the polo shirt with the falcon logo.
I'm about to hit the 7 year mark at my current job. Let's see how it plays out, I guess. LOL
Yep, it's there @ 4:10
NVB was a freaking nut job no wonder he was so successful as a player in philly if he were a nice guy he wouldn't have never won a championship in Philly he may have even been run out of town.
Cinderella quarterback Bob Lee turned into a pumpkin in 1974
Norm was a difficult and complicated man to get along with. Just ask Fran Tarkenton and Jim Marshall. He obviously had his demons, most likely brought on by the strain of the job and excessive alcohol consumption.
He smoking while chewing gum? Okay!!!
Norm is my great uncle dawg
Van Brocklin super tough amazing QB, too tough on players HC. Actually was the Eagles Head Coach but got fired before the games even started. So the Falcons fired him & replace him with Marion "Swamp Fox" Campbell great Defensive Coach awful Head Coach.
The Woody Hayes of the NFL?
Yes, perfect comparison.
Hayes was 75% an act and at least he won a few titles.
The 74 Falcons was the 2nd worst offense in nfl history. Only the 77 bucs were worse
I've turned down more than one offer to take my boss's job.
Just because you are excellent at a job (player), does not mean you are good at the next level up in the organization (coach).
It’s the Peter Principle in action.
Show me one great running back that wore no.43 thank you none.
This ATL crap that is on Atlanta team jerseys falcons,Hawks has absolutely got to go its supposed to be cool I guess I think it's dumb as hell.
46 Years Ago
shut the fuck up
@@RandyRandomson Wow, that's a bit harsh. He's just trying to give viewers context as to how long ago it was.
Great player…..horrible coach