Chuck Noll's WORST Moment | The Day The Steelers Turned on Chuck Noll
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- After a 1988 game against the Cincinnati Bengals that resulted in a 42-7 defeat, Steelers head coach Chuck Noll went after cornerback Dwayne Woodruff with a comment so bad and offensive, that many thought it crossed a line. This is the story of the day that the Steelers turned on Chuck Noll
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In 1985, there was another controversy involving Noll, where he and kicker Gary Anderson got into a massive feud after Pittsburgh lost back-to-back games on poor special teams play. To learn more about that, check out the video below: czcams.com/video/6XJebjtk-ng/video.html
I remember Gary's goodbye news conference. He was reduced to years. And so was everyone watching. We loved Gary and he had 10 good years left by any standards and he played more than that.
This seems like a case of the changing of the times to me. A grown man upset about a remark, that is ambiguous at best, regarding poor performance of player/team. That's essentially the start of today's weak minded culture, allowing words to hurt you. Hilarious
@@TonyTheBassPlayer1
I told Tom Donahoe "do not sign Dean Biasucci, he's terrible".
He signed him, and then he cut him during preseason.
Fucking guy was a glorified high school football coach and he only had his job because his grandfather was David L. Lawrence and he was a friend of the Chief's.
Picking Bill Cowher over Tom Donahoe before the 2000 season was the best move the Steelers ever made, not that Cowher was a genius mind you, but Donohoe had to go.
He treated players like shit.
I was 18 and remember this well. Noll was insulting the team and not Woodruff. He was using Woodruff's off field success to say that the entire team needs to consider life after football because they were playing so poorly.
I agree with you completely. The video was interesting but taken a bit out of context. What some people forget is that Noll took basically the same roster in 1989, lost the first two games 92-10 and then finished the season 9-5. That team upset the Oilers in the playoffs in the Astrodome and could have beaten the Broncos in Denver the week after. That might have been Noll's best coaching job
@Artemias Rivers Still crying the race card again, dumb little boy?
@Artemias Rivers Yet Cowher kept trying to hope Kordell was real QB instead of drafting one. He didn't even want a QB in the 04 draft. The Roonies made him take one. Cowher thought Maddox was still the future and wanted an O lineman. Then he wanted Rivers over Ben
@Artemias Rivers I'm with you on the owners being dirtbags. That's why I have no problem with players getting paid right and getting more guaranteed money
@Artemias Rivers
Chuck Noll played Barry Foster in 1991 and it was among the afc's leading rushers.
Then he got hurt, and his season was ruined at the end.
And your racist crap will never change the facts.
The Steelers won 3 of their last 4 games in 1988 including beating Houston in the House of Pain (their only loss at home that year). In 1989 they won the Wildcard game in Houston. In 1990 they were 9-7. It’s difficult to understand the argument that Chuck Noll lost his team.
Many call 1989 his greatest coaching job of his entire career. So there's that
That and 1984
Art Rooney Sr…”You shoulda drafted Marino!!”
I think it was Dan Rooney that was drafting then
No matter, They should have drafted Marino.
Can you imagine how many more Super Bowls Pittsburgh could’ve possibly won? One of the greatest players to never get a ring
@@Chris-il7xi There's no guarantee - Noll didn't implement the shotgun until 1989
@@1983jblack That’s why I said possibly. But I still think with Marino’s attitude and willing to do what it takes to win, playing in his hometown, etc I think they would’ve had a great chance. And great coaches are supposed to adapt to the players the draft. That’s why Shula went from a run oriented offense to a pass offense, knowing Dan was the man 👍🏼
🙄 Yep, he lost the Steelers so bad, the following season he won NFL Coach of the Year and almost got his team to the AFC championship.
And then coached the Steelers for four more seasons.
Conveniently overlooked that fact
I remember the start of the 89 season looked like a microcosm of the 88 season
Yeah almost but didn't ! Bottom line
i was thinking that its cause they dont cover the dude fr you have to be from here to know about him only head coach besides bill to win 4 so that will answer a lot right their
I'm a lifelong Cowboys fan and this video really upsets me. Even though I hated it when the Steelers beat Dallas, which was every single game in the 70s and early 80s, lol....this puts Chuck Noll in a very unfair light and does a very poor job of explaining this time period accurately.
This video is taking Chuck Noll's comments COMPLETELY out of context - or should I say, the context is being misunderstood. I saw a lot this in college when I went back to get my degree in my 40s. Students would constantly misinterpret a statement they read and give it a completely bogus analysis. I blame this partially on our attention spans being dulled by instant gratification technology and other things. We've been short-circuited into not thinking critically except on one surface or layer at a time.
There have been way worse comments by coaches after losing badly in games. Chuck Noll was NOT degrading Woodruff's profession as a lawyer or his law degree. What Noll was saying was that basically if his team couldn't play quality football, maybe they all needed to find another career to fall back on. Classic coach's sarcasm. That was IT!
And where is this whole "the team turned on Chuck Noll"? Really? They were competitive the next two years, getting into the playoffs and doing a fair amount of damage. Just like Dallas' Doomsday Defense's decline in the 80s, by the mid and late 80s the classic players were starting to get old, players were retiring and it was the end of the era for the Steel Curtain. This happens to every team. On offense and defense.
I just had to say something about this because I feel like it gives Chuck Noll a bad rap and doesn't do justice to the amazing job he did as a coach even when the team was starting to decline as time went on.
Art Rooney said about Noll once, "You know when I knew we had a coach? When we won one game and lost all the rest - But he never lost the team" Dan Rooney felt the same way about Noll. He could have very easily fired him but knew Chuck well enough to know he would not allow them to remain in that state. Remember they had a slow slide from 1980-86 and while '87 had slight improvement, they really showed their inexperience in 1988. He went back to the drawing board and you got his best coaching effort in '89. They really overachieved that year but 1990-91 showed he was tiring. It happens
Y'know, I lived in the Pittsburgh area when this alleged offense took place. I don't recall a single mention of it as being a divisive statement, anywhere; not in local media, in the Pittsburgh newspapers, nor among the friends of mine who worked (and some of whom still work) in the employ of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Methinks thoust overblow this a might.
He's a little boy from the social media era. He's not a real reporter.
I think you're right.
It was a bigger issue when Noll called out Sidney Thornton -- "He has many problems and they are great"
Your premise of the Steelers turning on Chuck Noll would make sense if he didn’t come back and win the 1989 coach of the year award the next year. I had to vote this down just for the inaccurate headline and premise. If you are a Steeler fan fix the title, if you aren’t, do some research after the 1988 season.
The Steelers went 9 and 7 the next season and Beat the Oilers in the Playoffs..Came an overthrown pass by Brister away from beating the Broncos and going to the AFC Championship ...How did Knoll lose the team?
That year was probably his best coaching effort.
This video left out the 1989 season where the Steelers made the playoffs in spite of starting the season losing to the Browns and the Bengals 51-0 and 42-10.
Beating the Oilers in the playoffs was Chuck Bill’s last hurrah. Making the playoffs that year was his finest coaching job since he last won the Super Bowl.
He didn't lose the team - just someone's opinion is all
@@davester1970 but that is not clickbait
But You got to remember some of the stupid things that he did in the 1980s Not just him but the Steelers as a Team. They had a chance to Draft Dan Marino but didn't do it because they thought they would have Bradshaw for a few more seasons at least but turns out during practice Bradshaw slipped during practice and fell and injured his elbow which ended his career. Also in the late 1980s they had a good team with Brister at QB and Hodge at RB but Noll decided to bring in Joe Walton as Offensive coordinator because he liked what he brought to the table offensively but he made the offense so difficult to run it confused Brister and made him suck as a player.
For all the Steeler / Rooney greatness, howintheheck did they manage to go TWENTY YEARS without a an above average (never mind great) quarterback? As we near the end of Big Ben's career, it doesn't take Nostradamus to predict we well may be in for another long drought. No matter who is the coach. As to the 1988 season and Chuck Noll's blow-up, it only proved he was human and cared about winning.
1988 was a rough year, but Noll never lost the team. His greatest job may have been the revived ‘89 squad, took a rag tag group to the doorstep of the AFC title game. The footage is good, but the narrative highly misleading.
Yeah this channel has been nothing but superb but this vid might have been stretching just a bit.
Actually this video helps the case for 89.
The meltdown came against the eventual AFC champion Bengals.
Just a few weeks after that, their was the inspirational Sunday night upset in Houston.
Then, in 89 they lost the first two games 92-10 and still made the playoffs
The fact that the Steelers have only had 3 HC's in 50 years is remarkable.
this year will mark 53 seasons with 3 HC's
Most NFL organizations are fickle. Some barley give a guy a chance to get started.
And they’ve all won Super Bowls
There has been more Popes than Steelers coaches
@@mattpomara1967 when you consider the average age of a pope is 70 when they take office that's not that impressive of a stat.
And then in 89 he was a FG away from the AFC title game with bubby freakin brister as his starting QB. So theres that.
More like one less memorable, John Elway-led come-from-behind tense, close postseason victory is probably the most appropriate reason why Steelers didnt advance to their 1st AFCCG in 5 years vs. Denver. I still think, if you're a honest, realistic Steelers fan over the age of 45-50 from that era, you'd have to admit the game had past Noll by by the end of 1980's.
Cowher, maybe deserves some mild criticism for not winning some of those early AFCCG's in the 1990's, particularly the San Diego game where even if Steelers win, they likely get blown out by the 49ers 2 weeks later like the Chargers did. But Bill Cowher was the perfect, Steel City molded, highly-energetic, focused, hard-working, dutiful new, fresh face sort of HC Pittsburgh needed to guide them into the 1990's and beyond.
Yeah, I think even though the Steelers weren't real championship contenders yet, he left the team in good shape for Bill Cowher.
@@davidroberts7282 No doubt Noll left the cupboard full for Cowher to succeed immediately. And yeah, nobody was beating the '94 Niners.
Was 1989 the year Pitt started with 51-0,41-10 losses and STILL made the playoffs?
@@davidrivera9743 yes
How did he “lose” the Steelers in 1988 but then make a deep playoff run in 89 and hand Cowher the Blitzburgh defense?
Joe Gibbs won 3 super bowls with 3 different qbs and 3 different rbs. JOE Gibbs is definitely worthy of Rushmore status
Joe Gibbs also won 2 Super Bowls during strike seasons.
@K W neither do politicians. They only care about themselves and the rich people who fund their campaigns
We will never forget the good times in the 70s never will be repeated
The Steelers were also very successful in the 2000s.
The next year they made the playoffs. This is silly.
What was interesting was the following season, despite being beat by Cleveland 51-0 and Cincinatti 41-10 the first two games, we made the playoffs...upset Houston at "The House of Pain" and went into Denver and almost beat them to make it to AFC Title Game. So yeah, 88 was bad for Noll but the 89 was such a crazy and fun season.
We?? What position did you play?
They went to the AFC divisional round in 1989. Guess he got em back the next season.
Denver
what ended the steelers dynasty was not drafting marino in 83, they thought bradshaw was playing forever?
Don Shula's exit was bad, but looked like a ticker tape parade compared to how Landry and Noll went out.
i wasn't ever a cowboys fan but i respected coach landry more then many of his peers. he was class and the way he was treated was just shameful and has me hatin' the cowgirls to this day.🤬 with knoll, i lose respect because he should have been the bigger man and take blame and move on but those who live in glass houses love chuckin' rocks.😁 steelers fan.🤪✌😎
and how Belichick's going out now.
Noll went out on his own terms, he was never fired
Remember they were supposed to draft Dan Marino in 1983 but passed on him !!!! Smh
I know, because Dan has so many rings.😆
Because Dan was a coke head , Raiders were great in late 70's and early 80's. Then Dolphins was good in mid 80's. , Broncos. took over AFC in late 80's , and with Bengles , and rise of the Bills . It was hard for Steelers to get back to Super Bowls 80's . Aging teams and drafting late in draft. It was harder rebuild no free agency . Mark Malone and Buddy Blister did not help either.
Bill Belicek?! Cmon! Dude couldn't win without Brady
The coaches comments obviously were NOT directed at just one player, he was merely suggesting that the players on that team should concentrate on what they are going to do once their Careers had ended, which would obviously be soon, woodruff was the best example of a player being ready for life after football and hence became the example used by the coach. Not degrading, more like, see this guy, he can play a bad game cause he’s ready if I tell him his career is over, what are the rest of you going to do ? Go back to the farm ? . It’s all relevant to the time it happened.
Love the show great reporting.
I’m sorry but any Mt. Rushmore for NFL head Coaches starts with Paul Brown. Period. Anyone who doesn’t understand this simply does not know NFL History.
Well, ok... Paul Brown is ON the Mt Rushmore, but it STARTS with George "Papa Bear" Halas
Chuck Noll should be on mount rushmore before those 2 clowns.
@@1USACitizen192 Halas has more Championships than Chuck "the Lockeroom Cancer" noll, was a Charter member of the NFL, Was a Player, Coach, GM, AND OWNER, and won Championships in MULTIPLE decades.
Noll won, and then the game had passed him by in less than a Decade. He was embarrassed throughout the 80s.
Now give the phone back to your wife's boyfriend and stop using up all of his minutes.
@@1USACitizen192 ROTFLMAO Noll was a PB protégée.
@@Mottleydude1 I think Noll taught Brown. Brown wanted to name his team the Cleveland Nolls, but Chuck said name it after Jim Brown, he is a much better player.
I love your content and the instrumentals playing in the background as well.
Should've drafted Dan Marino
Of course they should have. Everyone in the Steelers organization has been on record regretting that decision.
Gabe Rivera did show flashes of being a good defensive lineman in 83’ before becoming paralyzed in a car accident.
How can you turn on Chuck he has 4 Super bowls
So, you make this whole well put together video but your closing statement kind of makes it all pointless.
Exactly he was still coach for three more years after this just wasted 12 minites lol
@@js-hk6xs And the comments weren't even that bad. He just said that the whole team sucked.
I agree, but learning about Woodruff saved it from being a wasted 12 minutes
@@andressalazarwildlife ye lol
Luke Dwyer conspiracy theory: JaguarGator9 is Woodruff
Pure BS. The Steelers never "turned" on Noll. This is all media BS.
Exactly LettermanFanMan.
This dude is a drama fest
I not believe they turned on Him!!
I'm not a Steelers Fan but a Football fan. I love(sarcastically) When Fans and media cant wait to bury A coach!! Noll is a Mt Rushmore Coach! When Players all get old at once like those Steeler Teams, let's blame the coach! Steelers werent good when Noll took over(1969)Did they turn on Him for the next 10 years? Great Coaches are Leaders!! Any player turning on Noll I I Guarantee is not in the HOF!
This was a waste of 10 minutes. If he had truly lost the team, my Oilers would have beat them and possibly have played for an AFC central title. Instead we had to play in frigid Cleveland and Buffalo. He also coached up his team the next year to the AFC championship game.
Chuck Noll seemed to always have a hate boner for the Oilers. Especially when they were coached by Jerry Granville.
Much respect for your comment
He didn't completely lose them. After starting 2-10, the team finished strong going 3-1 to end the year including a stunning upset 37-34 upset against the Oilers in the Astrodome (the Oilers only home loss that season). Then after starting 0-2 while getting outscored 92-10, the Steelers finished 9-7 and made the playoffs. They beat the Oilers in the Astrodome and with Bubby Brister at QB lost by 1 point to John Elway and the Broncos in Denver. This may have been a low moment for him but he did not lose the team
26-23 over the Oilers, and the Oilers lost 2 regular season games at home earlier that year.
The Steelers won 3 of the last 4 games that season,? So this is completely innacurate.
The Steelers finished 9-7 the next year, went to the playoffs and nearly went to the AFC Championship…. And 9-7 the season after that, just missing the playoffs, and went 7-9 in his final season
Well lets see here: The following week the Steelers lost by 1 point to a 10-6 Eagle team which was a great game. The next week the Steelers lost in Cleveland, a place they always lose in the 80's with the exception of 89. Then they win 3 out of their last 4 games. Apparently the players got pissed off and started playing well so the Steelers could not pick in the top 5 and get D. or B. Sanders or Aikman.
That last quarter of that Steelers 88 season would be a preview of what would be to come for Steelers 89, especially after being drubbed by a combined score of 92-10 against Cleveland and Cincinnati in the first 2 weeks of the 89 season.
@@russellpavlov1343I was at that game against the Eagles with my dad and grandpap. A very fond memory.
Never even nominated Coach of the Year. Not Patriots or Niners ever won 4 Superbowls in 6 yrs.
Great video!! Am a cowboy fan but most of all am a fan of football and it history thanks for the video. Great job.
Knoll was very lucky that he worked for Dan Rooney. After that same season Tom Landry who had been the only head coach for Dallas was fired by Jerry Jones after he bough the team
Your deep dives on these video are awe inspiring. Fantastic job in editing narration and content. Fantastic work. Nfl films worthy
Missed the playoffs six of his last seven years. The rings bought him way too much of a grace period.
Th rest of the league had caught up with the Steelers draft process, while the Steelers scouting department went daft. I forget the numbers, but beyond Robin Cole drafted in '76 they went years before drafting another all pro...this coming from a staff who found how many HOF'er and all pros previously. Drafting later every year due to their success did not help, and passing Marino was utterly stupid (as did 23 other teams). One former exec said deciding who to cut in the 70's was always a challenge, in the 80's it was deciding when to stop cutting that was the challenge. Hard to coach when you do not have the talent, but when you are basically making all the decisions hard not to put the blame on Noll as well.
I was wondering if somebody would bring this up! Everyone loves to rag and bag on Shula but he had more playoff wins in his final four years than Noll in his last seven.
Steelers had a chance to bridge that old regime with a new one if they would have drafted Dan Marino, but they passed on him because he allegedly smoked weed in college- SMH 🤦♂️
It was more because they thought that Bradshaw could play a couple more years.
@@fammithommproductions if you watch the 30 for 30 about that draft the expert analyst that covered it said most teams were scared off of Marino after the marijuana story about him came out!! They said for the Steelers it was a perfect fit- Marino was a star at Pitt and Bradshaw had already seen his best years and that old regime was crumbling. I believe the quote from Ernie Ocorsi” Marino was the perfect bridge from Bradshaw to Marino” and it would have kept the Steelers relevant in the mid to late 80’s. So I’m not saying it- the analyst from that time said it.
Never heard of this “controversy” before so was looking forward to being informed but unfortunately I was not.
First time hearing those Noll comments and it was immediately obvious to me that Noll was attacking the entire team including himself. They were all playing and coaching so bad that they all should get law degrees to prep for life after football since that life seemed like it was coming up soon.
No way that could be interpreted as singling out Woodruff. No chance.
The only “insult” to woodruff would be the insinuation that getting a law degree was easy and that they all could do it. But even that is reaching because clearly he was just making an off the cuff remark and wasn’t serious beyond expressing the disgust with the performance of everyone associated with the club at that moment.
Yeah, this video is total garbage.
If Tom Landry can be fired from coaching.. Anything is possible.
Lombardi: Am I a joke to you?
After winning 4 Super Bowls in 6 years, and building the Steeler wing in Canton!
I’ll take it over Tomlin’s 3 playoff wins in 10 years! Lol
I remember Noll’s comment well & to this day I believe it was Noll meaning that the whole team played so poorly that all of them, including Noll, might need to find something else to do for a living. If you watch the “America’s Game” episode of the 1978 Steelers you will see that Noll was well known for not being able to deliver a punchline. This entire “incident” was a media finally getting a chance to take a shot at Noll who didn’t like some of them ever since early in his Steelers tenure when Noll got into trouble with the league for having an extra practice which started by local media reporting on the practice.
Typical football coach mentality, break the rules and get mad at others when you are caught. Hooray competition!
Bubba fug00gle In those days a Coach didn’t have to let media newr the practice field. Noll didn’t want reports of certain plays going out to spies but he let some local media in so he felt betrayed. It was media that got revenge on Noll by taking his comment way out of context. Noll didn’t mean it as a cut against Woodruff but the media portrayed it that way until Woodruff later realized that the media twisted it. Noll was proud of Woodruff and all of his players who did well. Some coaches, not Noll paid security to run ppl away from practice. The late 1960s early 1970s were much different. Fast forward to 2001 & one team had employees wear press passes & film plays & signals to make a catalog of plays.
@@r.williamcomm7693 I totally agree that any attention given to the story was unwarranted (as was this video). Clearly not a knock on the individual but the whole team including himself. I stand by my criticism of Noll being upset at anyone but himself when he got caught breaking rules. This is a standard kindergarten level moral issue... in the words of Jesus himself (as interpreted by Sammy Davis Jr.): "Don't do the crime if you can't do the time"
Bubba fug00gle I don’t know how much you know about Chuck Noll but you would enjoy his football life on CZcams. He wasn’t a typical meathead jock. I think I gave you the wrong impression with my one sentence to describe how he started with media but it’s not even close to the 18 years he had served as coach to that point so I shouldn’t assume that ppl know the rest of the story.
Noll was sophisticated & appreciated culture. Terry Bradshaw said that while he (Terry) was into horses & fishing that Chuck was Russian literature & fine wine. Noll conducted on occasion at the Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra.
Noll famously threw away the play book of another other team that was found in the visitors locker room & given to him even though the team was playing the Steelers again. The one practice incident I described was an oversight not a swindle. Ravens just had a violation 2 years ago. This was 1969 so the collective bargaining agreement wasn’t studied as closely.
Noll was a man of few words & he desired to give short quotes & not expound nor write the media’s stories for them. When Belichick did that less than a decade later he was run out of Cleveland because he didn’t win. Noll won 4 Super Bowls & that year the media was pushing “now that he’s losing Noll should be fired” sentiment. They used their usual “it doesn’t read if it doesn’t bleed approach.” This was media’s chance to finally condemn Chuck & twist his words. Anyway you might want to check out his life story because he never had an immature kindergarten approach to anything. Media was just scrambling for negative scoop so I’m not sayin that they are bad ppl either.
Noll learned the hard way as a young head coach that trusting them could get him burned.
He was Belichick before Belichick where he prepared his team to play & didn’t give away his game plan to media. He learned under Paul Brown & Don Shula & coaches the defense on the Colts team that lost Super Bowl 3 to Namath’s Jets.
Anyway, Noll’s life & character were always impeccable. That’s why this video is spun as his low point. If he had given long, colorful quotes that helped the reporters write their stories & off field drama then they would’ve loved him. But he was more stately, reserved & way too smart to let hacks put words in his mouth. He was one of the true good guys in the world & I guarantee you if you like NFL football & appreciate history, & take the time to watch “Chuck Noll: A Football Life” then you will have nothing but respect for him. If you like it then watch Paul Brown & Don Shula’s football life episodes. Paul Brown is especially impressive. Although every man has flaws, these men had passion & they had brains.
I don’t know if you share my belief that there was once a time when a high school education equipped an American for living his or her life fully & capable of independent thought. Sadly that has declined with each generation. But these men had college degrees when it meant something & seeing their lives in an era in history when things were being built in America, when ordinary jobs provided a living wage, & how they lived their lives & impacted other lives, including making opportunities for minorities is inspiring to may of us. Good luck & enjoy.
That is how I took it as well. And losing the team? I dont know, he coached for 3 more seasons. Seems like a stretch to say he lost the team. Losing a team usually ends in the coach being out of work quicker than 3 more seasons.
What you talking about even though 85-88 teams was a joke but they was a John Elway comeback away to the AFC Championship in 89, That AFC Central was the toughest division in the nfl every team was good in that division we was 9-7 in 90 and 7-9 in 91 with Noll, I think 89-90 teams was his best coaching
grassy knoll
is not because of his legacy with steroids and louis reicke from his first year until 1980 at least
In 1989, the Steelers nearly upset my Broncos in the AFC Divisional playoffs after losing 51-0 to the Browns in Week 1. Oops. That was his greatest moment.
To defend Noll a bit... he didn't mean an insult to Woodruff.
One can see that he meant... if the team plays this badly (like that day)... perhaps they should all seek new jobs (because playing football isn't working).
I can see how this may have gotten twisted a little.
“Maybe” Paul Brown? ANY Mt Rushmore of Coaches would have Paul Brown on it W/George Halas probably being first. Paul Brown is the MOST influential coach in NFL history. He literally made the game what it is. Watch Paul Brown’s Football Life. Starting with Belichick is like putting Teddy Roosevelt on the real Mt Rushmore first & mentioning Washington, Jefferson & Lincoln afterwards. 😂
Amen!
I should check but off the top of my head I think Brown had one losing season with Cleveland
If you count the pre-Super Bowl era, Lombardi made it to the championship game six out of eight years, he won five out of seven years, and three years in a row, including back-to-back Super Bowls. Chuck Noll won the Super Bowl back-to-back twice, four times in six years, and that record still stands. Now, Tom Landry and Bill Belichick came close, and Andy Reid is close now. We'll see.
Anyway, from that era also worth mentioning are Hank Stram, who won three championships in the 1960s (AFL 1962, 1967, 1969, 1-1 in the Super Bowl), George Allen and Bud Grant, both of whom never won the big one but are worthy of respect, and of course John Madden who made it to many semi-finals and lost, but also won the big one in his own right. Don Shula was already mentioned.
Ok. Woodruff went on to become a judge. And Noll continued coaching for a few years and became a legend. Is there a moral to this story?
It's surprising that they were around this long and it is probably going to be surprising how long that they stay
Chuck Noll got OLD. Rooney was STUPID NOT to REPLACE Chuck Noll in 1981.
Chick Noll rebounded in 1989 with his best coaching job as he guided the Steelers into the Playoffs. The Steelers upset the Oilers in the wild card round and nearly pulled off a upset to the eventual AFC Denver Broncos
Chuck Noll literally won the NFL's "Coach of the Year" the following year. Great, in-depth research, champ!🤣🤣
The Mount Rushmore of nfl coaches... there's not a big enough mountain to sculpt all deserving men
Most likely Noll’s comments were due to the onset of Alzheimers.
Perhaps the team resented his uncharacteristic words at the time
(Which I highly doubt), but to attack his intellect after his fate is uncool man.
One thing people tend to forget is that Chuck knoll had some very good draft picks 89 through 91 which laid the foundation for Bill cowher in 92
I remember watching a Sunday Night Football game around this time between the Steelers and Oilers. Noll calls a fake punt where the punter, Dan Stryzinski has to take the ball and run for a first down. The Oilers snuffed out the play and he 2 Oilers players had Stryzinski dead to rights. Stryzinski then makes an incredible attempt to get the first down by trying to leap over the 2 Oilers defenders.
Shockingly, Stryzinski is about to make the first down. He just needs to stretch out the ball to get the first down. But at this point he is mid-air and upside down. Stryzinski decides to not fully stretch out because he needs to use his left arm to break his fall or he will be a paraplegic for the rest of his life. Stryzinski ends up not getting the first down by about an inch, but it was a miracle that he even got that close and didn't break his neck.
As Stryzinski goes to the sideline, Noll is irate. You would have thought Stryzinski caused the 2008 financial crisis and ran over Noll's dog with his car. Even the announcers were like 'WTF?'
Great coach, but this time of his career didn't lead to him showing great character.
My coaching Mount Rushmore is Belicheck,Walsh,Noll ,and Landry but Paul Brown is a HM
Good video.
Noll’s comments were more about they were so bad, they needed to get on with their life’s work... a line he took from Paul Brown. Creative video but misleading and inaccurate
I hate the fact that I watched this - I could care less about all of it
The line by Harvey Dent was from “The Dark Knight” not “The Dark Knight Rises”. Just an FYI. Interesting video. Thanks 🙏 for sharing.
The Chuck Noll quote about law school was a prime example of how things can be blown out of context. But, he didn't "lose" the team, some players simply voiced their opinion about what was said. Let's also remember Chuck could be prickly with the press, he wasn't always Mr. Smooth and he had a sarcastic streak that would surface at times. But to say he lost them is ridiculous. They played .500 the final 6 games with only one "bad" loss to the Brownies. They hung 40 on the Fins in the finale. That's not losing a team.
I remember the late 80’s Steelers, I was more excited about the Pirates back then. The Steelers were a has been team, filled with nobodies. The Pirates had Barry and Bobby and Van Slyke and Drabek and Smiley. They had a good young manager in Jim Leyland. Now look at the two teams. Our 1B doesn’t know to step on first base with two outs. Fucking Will Craig.
Better coach than Billacheck, never cheated by stealing signs from another team
My coach mountain would be Heisman, Brown, Lombardi and Landry.
Tom Landry's Cowboys 1988 year was bad .
And yet, the next two years he went 9-7, making the playoffs in 1989 and winning a playoff game.
If Noll did that today he would be labeled a racist and would be forced to donate his Super Bowl rings to a LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ charity
Knoll wasn't that great a coach. He was a recipient of the Steelers willingness to heavily scout the historically black colleges. That's good since only the Steelers and KC Chiefs did that. What's disturbing is if the Chiefs had info on a guy from one of those schools but not the draft picks to get him, they'd share said info with other teams in an effort to get him a chance at the pro level. The "STEALers" didn't do that. If they couldn't have him, no one could. So much for social justice.
I really love the '88 Steelers.. there should be more years like this for them.
If the Steelers had picked Dan Marino instead of some idiot who liked to drink and drive, they would have won at least 1 SB and possibly 2 more. But there was bad blood between the Rooneys and Pitt, I think.
How did I know when you mentioned the Steelers as giving up the 2nd most points that the team ahead of them was the Falcons?
you forgot Joe Gibbs in your mount rushmore
People sleep on Gibbs so hard
A Rushmore is more of a founding fathers type thing. So to me it’s Halas, Brown, and Lombardi and no one else.
The biggest problem with the 1988 Steelers is that they didn't suck enough at the end of the season - if you don't win 3 out of the last 4 games, you get to draft Barry Sanders instead of Tim Worley.
NY Giants fan here (Yes, Cool & Calm Eli, Forever the Brady Assassin) we are told there was that familial connection with the NYG & Pittsburgh Steelers owners, the Maras & Rooneys. Owner Mara convinced Owner Rooney to change leagues from the NFC to AFC & they made history. Pre-merger the Steelers were not doing well as a franchise in the NFL but when the NFL-AFL merger talks started, owner Mara told owner Rooney to go w the AFC & hang in there & eventually it would pay off. The Steelers did play the old school style & eventually wore down the faster pass-happy AFC teams. I always loved that style of play from the old Cleveland Browns too. So both NYG & Steeler Nation get their Super Bowls. And the familial connection, actress Mara Rooney w roots in both dynasties. Side Note: I was also winning consistent bets on the Bengals (nobody bet on them to win because they were the Bengals) until Carson Palmer's knee injury playing Pittsburgh. So I'm in there w that history & rivalry.
You make a good point at the end of your video.
Belicheat should be no where near this discussion!
I was just in junior high during the late 1980s ... but I vividly remember a time when Cincinnati was the class act of the AFC Central*
Chuck Noll was very serious and a great teacher. That defense had great talent that hadn't fully formed yet and weren't cohesive as a unit. The offense lacked a go to running back and had below average QB play. For all of the great teams that they had, the talent was going to get old and when you have much less talented players the end result is going to be losing. The likes of Rod Woodson and Thomas Everett were young and inexperienced but over time they got better. Noll built that team and Bill Cowher was the recipient of a rebuild job that Noll started. Noll's time had come to call it a day but is easily a top 5 coach ever when considering what he started with and what he built. Also, he was 2-1 against the 1980's 49ers dynasty in head to head competition. That with a roster that didn't have great talent. No other team can claim to have a 10 year unbeaten streak at home against another conference but that happened during Noll's tenure. Noll was also the defensive coordinator for Don Shula's Baltimore Colts teams and many of Noll's techniques of teaching were adopted by Shula.
Like Tom Landry before him, the game had passed Chuck Noll by as the 80s became the 90s.
I don't know about this, I'm a Steelers fan and my fandom basically began as Noll retired and Cowher took over. A lot of the players that were important in Cowher's early success were drafted during Noll's final years. The game didn't change as much from the 80s to the 90s as much as it did from, say, 2000 to the 2010s.
Nope... those guys were both GREAT coaches... The core of the teams got old and they needed to re-load on talent. It’s a cycle... What happened is they both got older and wore out their welcome... Same thing even happened to Paul Brown in Cleveland where the team is named after him....
@@williamhicks7736 Not everything has to do with the talent. Some coaches just refuse to adapt to the changing times. The same things that Landry and Noll did in the 60s and 70s were not working in the 80s. It took them years to realize it, but it was too late then.
Always hurts to fall. Ouch!
Noll was a hell of allot better than Rooney Rule Tomlin.
6:46 -- It's weird how much the game has changed, Dixon just push down Bubby Brister out of bounds, like he was nothing. There would be so many flags over the place for that now and he would've been fined, immediately. It's not to say it's not still violent sport, but the style of play from that era was brutal.
Only if it's crybaby Tom Brady. Brady wouldn't survive if he played in the 1970s and 80s. When defenders were allowed to hit the QB.
@@rhettrissmiller4909 You forgot about the in the grasp rule which occured in the 1970s. Jack Lambert said that QBs should be wearing dresses.
@@dallasbrubaker6054 Funny story, Dallas. Boomer Esiason took jab at his quote, a few years ago. He said, you'd think for such a tough guy he wouldn't have retired over a dislocated big left toe.
Much to do about nothing....Pitt dominated for over a decade beating up teams in their division(although still competitive but not championship) and eventually they kept drafting high and Pitt low and guess what happened...The Bengals and Browns finally became really good (unfortunately simply not getting over the last hurdle) and had those teams had Coach Noll I guarantee you they would have both won Super Bowls....This video only chronicles a very frustrating season where everyone says things they don't mean. God Bless Coach Noll and all the players who played their tails off for him and they all did.
Nice to know pro athletes were snowflakes back in the day as well. Getting butthurt over a joke comment about law degrees? Amazes me how much these pros need to be pampered.
Maybe you had to be there but I don't see how that comment is so bad. I read it as maybe they all should do something other than play football.
Noll’s coaching won their 3 and 4 SB over teams that were better than them. It would’ve been awesome to see Noll, Shula, and Lombardi with their teams in the same 45 year span. Throw in Dallas and man that would be some awesome games.
Steelers won 3 out of 4 to end the 1988 season including an upset over Houston in prime time.
Its strange, how old rivalries die down and fade away but new ones sort of bubble up, simmer, and then explode into real, visual on-field animosity but some of the same factors that surround the antagonisms between new rivals are eerily similar to older ones.
Essentially, the Oakland Raiders were THE premier villain, primary antagonist for the Steelers throughout the 1970's with a notable exception perhaps to the Cowboys. By the mid-late 80's, Pittsburgh's main rival was Jerry Glanville's Houston Oilers and for Noll and Steelers franchise, their lack of respect, disdain for Oilers hard-hitting, nasty mentality seem to be taken more personally because they were positioning themselves as "new Raiders", when they were just wannabe upstarts.
AS A Washingtonian, I'm still happy they beat those Cowboys in the 2 nd Super Bowl appearance. Cowboys fans couldn't deal with the loss. lol
worst moment was passing on Dan Marino in '83
Wow, what Noll meant by "maybe we all should go out and get law degrees" totally went over your head.
These late 80s teams remind me of the current Steelers it’s honestly crazy
Lmao... Im not sure what I just watched... That was intense, man! The buildup! Damn! I was on the edge of my friggin seat! The Illuminati had to be behind that shit! Awesome!
His insult was clearly leveled at the team and he actually made a great point. He was saying that it was time for all of them to prepare for life after football. He crossed no lines. It was a brilliant remark. I can’t believe people got upset at that. Snowflakes were apparently a thing in the 80s too.
Noll didn't lose the Steelers
What killed that team was injuries, Mike Merriweather's hold out, heck even Art Rooney SR died in August of 1988
THE NEXT YEAR, SAME COACH, SAME PLAYERS, HEALTHIER, AND THEY MAKE THE PLAYOFFS.
@Artemias Rivers
Actually genius Mike Merriweather went to Pacific.
And he was a backup linebacker in 1982, and played in all nine of the games of the strike-shortened 1982 season.
1989 was probably his most impressive coaching job. Took a below average team that was outscored in their first two games that year 92-10 and coached them to the playoffs and they almost went to the AFC Championship Game, but they blew a 17-7 lead to the Broncos to lose 24-23.
@@crowtservo I remember that and I agree