The CRAZY DRAMA Between Chuck Noll and Bubby Brister | 1990 Steelers
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- After week 1 of the 1990 NFL season, following a 13-3 loss to the Cleveland Browns, Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Bubby Brister publicly criticized Chuck Noll for his coaching abilities. What followed was a bizarre feud between the two men that led Brister to retract everything he said, even though many sided with him. This is the story behind the drama of the 1990 Steelers between their head coach and their quarterback
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Members of the 1990 Steelers:
Gary Anderson
Dan Stryzinski
Bubby Brister
Rick Strom
Dwight Stone
Richard Bell
Larry Griffin
Richard Shelton
Gary Jones
Rod Woodson
Thomas Everett
Barry Foster
Merril Hoge
Delton Hall
Carnell Lake
Tim Worley
Warren Williams
DJ Johnson
Dwayne Woodruff
David Little
Bryan Hinkle
Hardy Nickerson
Jerry Olsavsky
Jerrol Williams
Brian Blankenship
Tunch Ilkin
Dermontti Dawson
Kenny Davidson
John Jackson
Donald Evans
Lorenzo Freeman
Tom Ricketts
Justin Strzelczyk
Terry Long
Carlton Haselrig
John Rienstra
Derek Hill
Louis Lipps
Mike Mularkey
Terry O'Shea
Eric Green
Chris Calloway
Lorenzo Davis
Tyronne Stowe
Craig Veasey
Keith Willis
Eddie Miles
Greg Lloyd
Aaron Jones
Gerald Williams
AJ Jenkins
Chuck Noll (head coach)
Dan Rooney (chairman) - Sport
Eric Green, the steelers #1 draft pick who was a tight end, held out in training camp and the beginning of regular season in 1990. He did not play until week 5. When he returned, he caught 5 of Brister's 7 TD passes. Brister really only had Louis Lipps to throw to before Eric Green and remember, he was handing off to Tim Worley who had his own problems holding on to the ball. The one game that really spelled the beginning of the end for Brister as a starter was late in the 90 season when the Steelers hosted the Bengals in a key division matchup. Brister was playing well coming into this game. However, Bubby did not play well and the Steelers offense only scored 12 points...just missing open receivers but missing them nonetheless. The Steelers lost the game. This forced the Steelers to have to win in Houston in the last game of the season to make the playoffs. Tim Worley promptly fumbled early in the game against the Oilers and the Steelers got blown out. In 1991, Brister had a 5-3 record as a starter and O'Donnell was only 2-6. In 1992, O'Donnell looked like right choice early as the Steelers got off to a hot start riding the back of Barry Foster. However, as the season went along, O''Donnell got worse and then got injured. Bubby played a couple of games and went 2-2 and had a very strong last game of the season against Cleveland at home. But, alas, Cowher chose O'Donnell against Buffalo at home and he stunk. Maybe Brister would have given them a better chance to win. He did win the playoff game at Houston in 89 and if not for a Tim Worley fumble would have beaten Denver. I really believe that Brister would have loved the 1992 Steelers offense because it featured Barry Foster and that would have taken a lot of the pressure off of him.
Certainly possible and if Brister were as level-headed and calm as O'Donnell I think Cowher would have considered keeping Brister in for that 1992 playoff game against Buffalo but he (Brister) was so gdamn tempestuous and out of control despite really, having one of the best arms in the NFL.
He was basically Brett Favre before Favre came into the NFL in 1991.
Your voice sounds better than it did in yesterday’s video. Good to hear.
This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made a video about how Kicker Gary Anderson put Noll on blast five years earlier.
I'm worried that he got the virus 😟
How can a QB remember plays when he's getting smacked all over the place. He probably played the whole season with a concussion.
No, Brister was just a moron.
I remember this Steelers team. Bubby was right, Walton was horrible and Noll refused to change out of pride. This was the beginning of the end for Noll.
You may be right....as JG pointed out that some in the local press actually agreed with Brister's main point - that Walton's system was too complicated.
I remember as well and still thank God to this day that my team played them when they were going through that offensive funk the first 4 games when they didn't score a single TD.
I stand with Bubby Brister.
You nailed it. His own inflexibly did him end. Cowher came in 92 and brought pragmatism (and crazy enthusiasm) and totally rejuvenated the team.
Bubby was also horrible. Not great years for the Steelers.
It looks like the offensive line was worse than Brister
It was a young line.... three players drafted in that era became really good to great under the next coach. Dawson(HOFer), jackson, strelzcyk
AT LEAST he admitted it. Chuck Noll had Terry Bradshaw on the verge of quitting. I agreed, even when a QB and HC disagree, even when it's public and EVEN when they need to come to terms after, it should be BOTH on one accord. Chuck was a tough man emotionally. He knew the X's and O's. I have no doubt of that. But he was no "personable" kind of guy. Brister, while I didn't see much of him over the course of his career so I don't have MUCH context, struck me as the type of guy that would and probably did, appreciate sitting down, discussing differences and moving on. I can see where he WOULD be mad after a loss. I can see where he WOULD be competitive and want for he AND his team to do better. But AT least, granted with his job on the line, admitted that you don't aire out your dirty laundry. I'm glad they both came to terms for at least the later part of this season. Chuck was tough, Brister, a frustrated guy, made me think about Bradshaw and Noll and they won 4 Superbowls together. Again, JG9, you're good, keep up the good stuff you do. I call it "watching film" between my Madden and NCAA 14 football XBox sessions when I watch your stuff. You're awesome.
Bubby Brister scratching his helmet on the sideline tells you all you need to know about him.
Hahahaha
The steelers' pass defense in 1990 was historically great. They intercepted 22 passes while only giving up 9 passing tds all season. They played warren Moon, joe montana, Dan marino, Boomer esiason twice, jim everett, john elway, and bernie kosar
Unbeknownst to many, the Steelers took a quarterback out of Maryland earlier in that year's draft. Neil O'Donnell would replace Bubby Brister in 1992 at starting quarterback when Bill Cowher and Ron Erhardt took over for Chuck Noll and Joe Walton respectively. After '92, Blowhard Bubby Brister was gone.
Although O'Donnell wasn't the savior, he and Erhardt's system proved to be a major improvement over the previous regime. And the Steelers ultimately became a Super Bowl team by the mid-90's, albeit with some holdovers from the Chuck Noll era.
Actually, O’Donnell took a 7-9 team in ‘91 to the top seed in the AFC in ‘92. A team that had missed the playoffs 6 of the previous 7 years never missed with him in. I think the Steelers return to the Super Bowl if he’s re-signed. Brister is the Steelers most overrated QB, O’Donnell the most underrated.
@@PittsburghMarky Maybe if O'Donnell doesn't look like he threw those INTs right to Cowboys, or made the comment about playing those 4 years and made a Super Bowl and that's pretty good(or something like that) shortly after he would have had a chance to be resigned. There was no way they were resigning him after that.
@@thegoldfly1 Couple of things- O’Donnell has taken waaaay too much heat for an INT that wasn’t his fault. The Steelers did make him an offer (Rod Woodson even publicly commented he’d have his contract redone to keep him), but Sports Illustrated reported Leigh Steinberg really did push him to the Jets, suggesting his star could be greater in New York than in Pittsburgh.
Some holdovers? The core was mostly noll players. He left cowturd with a loaded cupboard.
@@PittsburghMarky Honestly I don't know what the break down was on either of those INTs, I just know they made the man look horrible. I'm sure he gets more heat then he deserves for them, I wasn't a big fan at the time but I do remember he had a good year that year. I'd honestly kind of like to know what was really happening on those plays.
That o-line looked terrible too.
Giving up 40 pounds per man to the opponents most Sundays.
Noll really let the times pass him by in the 80s.
Best Steeler O lineman of this era was Carlton Haselrig, a 275 pound all American wrestler who never played college or high school football.
He gave up 30+ pounds to the dlinemen of that era but held his own thanks to his leverage and technique he learned as a wrestler.
Kind of like the offensive of this past season.
@@dustinsindledecker154 it's like we had the terrible Todd Haley was back calling play's. I hope it's different this time.
@@kimblandino Shula did the same thing at that time as well. Insisted his linemen be light for "conditioning" purposes. It took him until 1990 to finally realize NFL linemen could be big and in shape at the same time.
As a steeler fan born in the 2000s I find this extremely funny.
You didn't have to suffer through the '80s or 90's, but your about to get a big taste of it. Drafting a guy who quit on his team for their Bowl game and needed an extra year of college to not be mediocre, we're gonna have to endure at least a decade of mediocrity at best. You've never seen the Steelers without a HoF QB.... Be afraid kid, be very afraid, it gets bad fast.
@@ZDiddy7777 As someone who was there for the pathetic Pittsburgh parade of QBs in the '80s you're right, but I don't think anything you say can prepare that kid for it.
@@ZDiddy7777 it isn’t 1980 anymore the nfl is a qb friendly league Pickett could easily be good by year 2
@@ZDiddy7777 joe burrow wasn’t good until his last year either and the senior bowl means nothing lol wtf are you even talking about I’ll Bet 1000 dollars this won’t age well
@@ZDiddy7777 you nitter cult members are always so easy to spot.
I forgot about how inept those Steelers' offense was until they hosted the then-San Diego Chargers. I didn't know about details such as Noll not adapting the scheme to the abilities of the players on hand. I hate that approach. Coaches have to install schemes that their players can run properly. If not, what are the coaches doing?
Unfortunately modern coaches have doubled down on that to the point where it's ALL about "the scheme" and 99% of NFL players are completely scheme-dependent.
I remember that season wasn't until the fifth game that the Steelers got an offensive touchdown.
I remembered Bill Walsh broadcasting when the Steelers scored their first touchdown of the season. He said, "Wait let's see if it's an offensive touchdown."
Chuck Noll stayed on the job way too long and set this team back big time when it came to offense.
I remember the sign ‘J-E, where’s the O’ for joe waltons extra complicated offense. They didn’t score an offensive TD until week 5 against SD. They scored 20 against the oilers week 2 but it was a punt return and an INT by Woodson. At one point after they went 1-3 in the first 4 games bubby called out one of the plays to the media and it was about 10 seconds long. Having option after option depending on the Defense he saw. After he said the play he made a comment about how complicated the offense was for everyone. They started to dummy it down after that and went on a bit of a run. Only losing to cincy twice, SF and the oilers.
Joe Walton’s offense was complicated for Brister. The Robert Morris Colonials figured it out just fine. Telling.
I actually remember Brister complaining that Walton's offense was too complicated, and I think he was basically advised, 'learn it'.
But JG makes a good point.....most coaches would try the Shula approach- adapt your plays to the strengths of your players.
@@67marlins Brister had no strengths
@@67marlins The same thing happened with gilbride came in I think in 99-00. It had option after option that the qb, receivers, and backs all had to be on the same page with what they saw. Then mularkey comes in and worked a miracle with the Steelers O.
@@PittsburghMarky I don't agree, Marky. He had a cannon for an arm. A coach like Shula, Walsh or Bum Phillips would have effectively tailored an offense to Bubby more successful than Noll, no disrespect to Noll intended.
I can recall another comment by Washington Redskins' defensive lineman Dexter Manley, who called Brister extremely tough.
Dear God the Browns gave him an ass whooping.
Still not as bad as what they did to Bradshaw that one time.
The steelers were also going through a transitional period after their superbowl years.
If only they took Marino in '83.....
@@rakasatria7193 Well he was available and right in their back yard.
For a Hall of Fame coach Noll sure had a lot of detractors on his team.
Even Bill Walsh suffered a few malcontents, Marc.
Brister was another Louisiana bumpkin like bradshaw...he just never got it together like bradshaw did.
@@88cutty He called his own plays, so that's really not a reasonable criticism.
@@67marlins he didnt call his own plays until he gained nolls trust. This is why noll was so hard on him and terry always cried about it to the media, even into his later adulthood.
@@88cutty Terry Bradshaw is an embarrassment. Still whining to this day that Chuck Noll didn't hug him when without Noll, on a different team without an iconic defense and one of the best RBs in history in Franco Harris, would've been out of the league in five years, long before he had a chance to shine later in his career once he matured. Still hasn't gotten that through his head.
The clubbing of the head at 5:58. Vicious blow. I'd be pissed at the team too. Looked like his teammates didn't care. At 6:16 speared in the head. Probably played with a concussion.
Gotta love how the defender raises his hand like, "I didn't do nuthin'!" and apparently got away with it! 😳Times were truly different.
And while bubby had a good year, they had the number 1 defense that year which always kept them in games. That’s back when having the number 1 D meant a difference
Bubby didn’t have a good year. When u don’t produce a TD in half of the games, u didn’t have a good year.
@@PittsburghMarky dude. It’s bubby we’re talkin about. 20 td’s 14 int’s. It was his best year. And it’s called a ‘year’. Not a half a year. Don’t be stupid.
So Bettis in the opening week of 04 when he had 5 carries, 3 td’s, and one yard, had a bad year by your standards
@@butch1dc Your comparison makes no sense. You say Bubby Brister’s best season was one in which he failed to guide an offense to a touchdown in half of his starts. That’s all that really needs to be said. Oh, and that he blamed others.
A completely average young qb calls out an aging HOF coach.....
"Average" is a bit strong
Trandview - but remember, some in the local press stood up for Brister and agreed with him that Walton's system WAS too complicated, as JG pointed out.
And the sad part is, the average QB was right! I was there, I know.
@@DolFan316 so then you know the Steelers had 4 SUPERBOWL victorys in pocket at that time. Noll was part of all of them and BB was part of 0. Noll was past his prime as a coach, but Brister was nothing more than a sub .500 QB.
@@LouisWinthorpe3 so you agree👍
Every play that is shown, he's either about to be sacked before even a 3-5 step drop or when he throws, no one is open. I'm a browns fan born in 86 so I don't remember this game 😂.
Bubby Brister had an outburst with the Broncos in 1999 as well. That year John Elway retired and Denver was gearing up for a third straight super bowl. Brister was pegged as the starter throughout the offseason. But as the preseason wound down, coach Mike Shanahan gave the opening day job to youngster Brian Griese. Brister's initial reaction was not the most charitable to Shanahan, saying he only came back to the team in '99 for his teammates, not the head coach.
So let’s see here, he couldn’t play for Bear Bryant, Chuck Noll, or Mike Shanahan. To the guy who wrote somewhere on this thread “I stand with Bubby Brister (!),” I’ll stand with the aforementioned three. As will everyone else who has ever so much as heard of the existence of football.
Nobody thought Denver was gearing up for a Super Bowl under Brister.
Bubby Brister struggled a lot during the 99 preseason, that's why Shanahan turned to Brian Griese
@@PittsburghMarky The clown ass sports radio media in Philadelphia created a false controversy between him and Randall Cunningham.
@@JeffCirillo Howard Eskin, sports talk show radio host, in Philadelphia did.
How many concussions did Hodge have in this game and did Worley have less than 3 fumbles? I dunno who was worse, Brister or Kordell. At least with Brister there wasn't any hope, Kordell could make you think he was a star and the missing SB piece.... then he'd throw 3 picks to linebackers and pout on the sidelines while getting blown out by the Titans. We NEVER thought Bubby was gonna win anything, so at least we weren't hopeful with Brister.
I remember Kordell's "feast or famine" performances all too well growing up watching the Steelers.
The 1990s into the mid-2000s was a rough decade and a half to be a Steelers fan given the ways they'd break your heart by collapsing in the playoffs.
Mason Rudolph should be on your list. He be better off selling concessions
@@hrtvfan2870 Now they collapse in the regular season. :| Been a Steelers fan since Brister's day but definitely watched some Malone games as a kid.
Fool
Couple things to re-iterate here.
Everyone knew Joe Walton's offense was trash and as Brister said, Walton's whole staff were a bunch of embarrassing clowns and Brister knew it.
I forgot about this spat at the beginning of the 1990 season, what an atrocious year.
1989 started off horribly, losing 51-0 to the Browns with 53 yards of offense, but atleast they turned things around under Noll and Tom Moore and made a respectable playoff run.
Noll needed to go after the Mark Malone debacle in 1987 where Malone threw 6 td's and 19 int's, NINETEEN!!!!
Noll was totally detached from good offensive concepts at that time and they were lucky they had a really defense under Rod Rust, Dave Brazil and a young John Fox.
Noll was trash, Brister was shit and Joe Walton was fecel face-paint on a shit-clown.
Things turned around for the better when all 3 were gone.
How about Brister shuts up before Noll crushes him with his 4 Super Bowl rings!
Where the hell are these cards in the upper right corner??
There are a few cards on the corner.
I never see them either! Oh well.
I knew a self-proclaimed die-hard Steeler fan that who claimed that he was their biggest fan.
He kept calling Bubby Brister, "Bubba".
When I told him that his name was Bubby, not Bubba, he was like, "No, it's not."
I showed him a football magazine to prove that it was indeed "Bubby", he suddenly he was like, "Oh. I like that better."
He was also the kind of guy who would sing the wrong lyrics to songs on the radio.
When I would correct him, he would continue to sing the wrong words.
He would not admit being wrong or he'd spin it so he wouldn't look foolish, (which did not work.)
Having played Super Tecmo Bowl on my NES, I agree with Bubby - as bad as he could be. Strom often replaced Bubby during my STB seasons.
The way Noll handled QBs in the 80s tells me Marino would've been a bust in Pittsburgh
There’s a helluva difference between Dan Marino and Bubby Brister.
You mean mark malone led team almost getting to the superbowl or the bubby brister led team a FG away from the afc title..... yeah... noll was really bad with QBs 🙄
@@88cutty The criticism that I think is really not being talked about was how dumb Brister was. We hear "Terry Bradshaw was dumb," yeah- he was dumb like a fox- calling the plays for four Super Bowl champs and then becoming an icon for 40 years following his retirement. But here's a QB who literally could not make it at two different colleges (Alabama and Tulane) and he's saying "I can't figure out the offense." Well you know- this coach has won more Super Bowls than any other at the time and this guy is legitimately a Western PA football legend (the Walton name goes back to Jock Sutherland at Pitt) and did have a level of success as the Jets head coach. Meanwhile you were not able to beat out a QB with a 6-19 TD pass to Interception ratio despite numerous opportunities to do so. Who are you really going to stand with? And people want to say BRADSHAW was dumb? HA! HA! HA! HO! HO! HO!
@@PittsburghMarky i said as much on another comment. Noll thought he could catch fire in a bottle again with another Louisiana bumpkin.
@@88cutty In all honesty, I don't know if he did. Brister seems to me to be the ultimate "combine" draft choice. He didn't play all that well in college- going from Alabama to Tulane to NE Louisiana is not an upward climb- but he was a good athlete and played minor league baseball (poorly) one season and such. So you take him as a project. It should be said in 1988 the Steelers got Todd Blackledge- remember his father was on the staff- and there was a feeling he was going to be the starting QB in 1988- the 1987 highlight film, for instance, really implies this and it's unlikely a coach's son has been acquired under the circumstances with the intention to sit. Brister famously came in to camp and wrote "I'm the man- write it down!" and there were those who were impressed with the cocky attitude- and that impression led some to believe he was better than he was. And he did outplay Blackledge in the preseason. But "I'm better than Todd Blackledge" really isn't saying much. By 1990 the Steelers are drafting Neil O'Donnell. In the book "Dawn of a New Steel Age" Ed Bouchette writes how Noll was impressed enough with O'Donnell he wanted to take him in the first round, but was called off by Tom Donahoe and Company who insisted O'Donnell would be there in later rounds. By the third round Noll demanded O'Donnell be taken. So it's pretty apparent after two years Noll knew he didn't have anything with Brister. But you may not remember- O'Donnell was a hold out- and I'm pretty much convinced he never had real good agents which hurt his career. Had he signed, I have no doubt O'Donnell would have been starting at some point in 1990 and the Steelers likely make the playoffs that season and the next- O'Donnell is viewed much differently- etc. etc. But other than Rick Strohm, who alternatively worked at a bank during this time, who else did the Steelers have to turn to in 1990? I'm convinced Noll didn't necessarily think Brister was the man. Brister wound up playing as a matter of circumstance.
You could blame Brister… though 85% of these highlights end with Brister getting clobbered by the Cleveland pass rush.
OH I remember, These were the dark days of bad draft picks. And Chuck Knoll was on his downward spiral. Luck wasn't on our side. The NFL had changed too.
Woodson, llyod, lake, dawson, jackson, nickerson, ernie mills, eric green , barry foster.. noll was still bring in talent. If not for those players and more, cowturd woulda been back coaching special teams with marty, losing more afc title games.
U see how many flags would be thrown in today's game?
Steelers got neil o'donnell, barry foster, and eric green in the 1990 nfl draft
Dude he had zero time to throw
Some of my favorite names:
Bubby Brister
Bob Backlund
D.B. Cooper (or a variation, thereof)
Some fun names for a good ol' nom de guerre... nom de plume....
Hell, even some fun for when Cookie Monster comes across some cookies & goes:
_NOM-nom-NOM-NOM-nom-nom_ .....
I'm a Steelers fan since early 80's, but I'd like to tell all Steelers fans that began rooting for them in the 2000's.....take a look at how bad you can bed without a good QB...........people can hate on Ben all they want, but the Steelers are going to be BAD for a while without him.......
I'm 35 and Brister was just a bit outside my fandom but I lived through, Neil O'Donnell, Mike Tomczak, Jim Miller, Kordell, Kent Graham and Tommy Maddox. Glad I missed the Malone/Brister years. But the future looks rough.
So are saying Kenny Pickett is gonna suck, gotta have faith in your team it may not be bad.
I feel your pain, I started watching steelers in 1985,, I'm from UK
@@finkness8483 odonnal, the man that threw sb xxx away
@@finkness8483 at least maddox got a ring Tony
How do you not throw a td for the first 4 games lol? That’s beyond terrible!
"iT's ThE cOaCh'S fAuLt"
He wasn't as good as Baker Mayfield to sum it all up.
All things said here were correct. Noll was a difficult coach to play for. Bill B. in New England is the same guy, Its always the players you have that make a team, Coaching can only do so much, Walton was terrible the reason he got fired in NY they sucked and he was the worst coach in the NFL with the JETS. Bubby for his part was just lucky the Steelers did not have a real QB because he was worse than almost any QB since Knoll took over in 69 to present. Boy how lucky we have been since 1992 in Pittsburgh I had almost forgotten how bad the years between 80-91 Just horrific. A really good job on the video thanks but do not remind me every again of that time period.
In Brister's defense Joe Walton ruined the Steelers' offense and ruined Brister because he had a lot of potential of being good but Walton's system was way too complex and Noll was an idiot for liking it. In my mind Noll needed to go at the end of the 1991 season because like Tom Landry before him was out of touch as the game modernized and thought he could do the same stuff as he did in the 1970s.
No, Noll thought he could mold another bumpkin into being a decent QB and failed. Brister was a clown.
@@e2go True Noll probably thought that but Joe Walton was terrible for the Steelers though as well.
The fact of the matter was that all 3 individuals needed shitcanned, Noll, Brister and Walton.
Man, those last handful of years almost completely destroyed Noll’s legacy. This is what, the third video you’ve done of him acting crazy?
It makes me appreciate Shula's final half decade so much more. He went out so much better than Noll or Landry.
It did nothing to his legacy....it didnt undo 4 titles in 6 years, it didnt undo all the great player AND it actually built the stockpile of hall of fame talent he left to cowher.
@@88cutty Actually , it did tarnish his hieracy tier position from where he previously was in reference to the greatest coach concept .Paul Brown , Lombardi ,Halas , legendary career pedigrees were within the grasp of Noll ,his 4 SB Championships were the ingredients that placed him in contention for the greatest crown jewel, but more accolades needed to be obtained too finalize the coupe. That moment of Steeler turbulence created a opportunity for current elite coaches Walsh and Gibbs to advance near Nolls plateau ,thus any slippage by Noll presented a viable debate about those esteemed gentlemen eventually passing him by inthe very near future ,not to mention Don Shula and Tom Landry's superior multiple decade of at least advancing to multiple conference championship games with Shula reaching 2 additional SB's which certainly caused fans ,media pundits alike to lower Noll onthe greatest coaching tree . Walsh and Gibbs afterwards have been proclaimed by various pundits higher onthe coaching goat tree then Noll with Shula inthe minds of those observers already above Noll ,the 80's slide ,which in actuality wasn't horrible 4 post season births ,2 conference championship game appearance 2 road playoff victories ,with 2 different starting QB's other then Hof Bradshaw being at the helm of those 2 playoff wins , nevertheless those respectable achievements were lack luster in comparison to the 70's Steelers dominance and the pedal off of the breaks during the 80's '.That land slide created a sieve allowing newer and past contenders to the crown legacy's to acquire objective significance that created a case being above Noll ,he missed post season 6 out of his last seven seasons , Pittsburgh returned to being a consistent playoff / SB contender the season after Noll left ,that rationally has to be considered a ink stain on his legendary resum'e in terms of his ranking onthe coaching goat lists .Like you my fellow Steelers fan I've been a loyal supporter of the team for 40 plus years ,but I'm also objective ,Noll isn't the goat because of the ok 1980's results and terrible 6 non post season years during his final 7 seasons tenure .1 Paul Brown 2 Bellichick 3 Lombardi ,4 Walsh 5 Shula 6 NOLL 7 Gibbs 8 Halas 9Landry 10Lambeau .is my order . A person's legacy is constituted by the complete narrative of ones career not just by 1 segment of greatness ,which is why such stalwarts like Weeb Eubank , Hank Stram ,Tom Flores ,Mike Shannahan ,George Seifert ,John Madden ,Bill Parcels aren't inthe top 10 despite illustrious careers .
@@DolFan316 Yes, Shula didn't win anything for a quarter of a century. Such a great run.
Chuck Noll was literally voted the NFL Coach of the Year by the Pro Football Writers like two years before he retired😂
6:17 7:08 Brutal 😨
I loathe Bubby Brister. Didn't Broncos fans paint his house like an end zone so he couldn't get into it? He wasn't good and that's overrating him.
Absolutely spot on comment, Christopher Engel. Brister is not only the most overrated QB in Steelers history, but had tremendous character issues. And was the reason the Steelers missed the playoffs in 1990 and 1991.
I don’t know if Brister’s 1990 was all that good. Steelers didn’t score an offensive TD for the first four games of the season. He did have a fine October to bout his stats, but off the top of my head there were three other no-TD games I can think of. Incredibly the Steelers won two of those games.
@@PittsburghMarky No, the Houston Oilers defensive and Cody Carlson are the reasons they missed the playoffs.
@@whataboutrob442 Please. It never should’ve come to that in the first place.
My favourite Bubby Brister fact: at some point in the past (at the very least, prior to Cutler and Mayfield), one of the sports magazines named the best ever NFL player with each uniform number. Number 6 was so lacking that they named *him* as the greatest.
This guy just doesn't understand how defense was king back in the 80s and through the early 90s.
This guy has forgotten more about football than you know
The early '90s saw leaguewide scoring plummet so significantly that SI did a cover story about it. It was the first time since the infamous '77 season that scoring had dropped. How bad was it? A team set an NFL record for fewest points in a 16-game season three years in a row 😯There might have been more teams scoring 400-plus points last season than in the entire first half of the '90s.
Looks like a porous offensive line helped loose this game too!!!
Dude please get a better mic
I'm not gonna sit here and defend Brister entirely but the Raiders and Dolphins games that were played in Weeks 3 and 4 are on CZcams. You can watch those games and see how shit the Steelers offense was through that first month. They looked out of synch, they could not establish a running game, plays weren't developing, the offensive line struggled and Brister himself struggled. The commentators frequently talked about the Steelers' new offense and how overly contrived it was (there is a Steelers/Niners game in like Week 7, again on CZcams, where they show an example of what the name of a play looks like under Walton's system and what the play actually is......let's just say Walton's name of the play is unnecessarily complicated).
I get that looking in a vacuum, Brister's comments were uncalled for and he isn't the most likeable QB either......but I don't blame him at all for getting pissed off when people are blaming him for what happened in that first month when the whole team was struggling to score offensive points and had to learn this new complicated scheme. That first month screwed the Steelers out of the playoffs.....that's on the HC and the new offensive coordinator, not the QB.
Sure once they got going, the team played much better and had a really good offense at times (mostly against shit teams to be honest) but that first month fucked them
bubby brister was carson wentz media coach lmao
Defense may have been king in the 80's and 90's but trust me this was not a good steelers team and to add to that Bubby Brister was a terrible quaterback.
When the NFL and world was much better.
If you are on an AFC Central kick why not do the game between Sam Wyche’s Bengals hanging 60 on the Jerry Glanville Oilers?
Oh, and Chuck Noll was a jerk. He treat Terry Bradshaw so bad Terry hates him now. Almost ruined Bradshaw before he was ready. Probably jealous that Bradshaw, who like most then though it was quickly fading, called his own plays. For that he was/is remembered much more than Noll.
Completely false. Bradshaw loves noll because he finally came to the realization that noll groomed him into the hall of famer he became. He was too immature then and a lot of his adulthood to realize it. Noll being hard on bradshaw early allowed them to let bradshaw loose in the second half of the 70s and it paid off with 2 more titles.
@@88cutty Watch Terry’s A Football Life. He used the word “hated” not me. He’s never gotten over the way he was treated by Noll.
Bubby was mediocre at best . He needed pass protection and a running game to excel. He had neither so all of his flaws came out. Add in Joe "I dunno" Walton and you have a recipe for disaster.
That's a weird to name your kid, Bubby I mean why can't you just name him bobby.
Walter Andrew Brister III is so much better
Just rolls off the tongue 😛
My younger sister used to call me Bubby when she was like 2 and couldn't pronounce brother properly just yet.
@@DolFan316 Yes. That’s how he got his name.
@grinningchicken8 is that his actual name I always bubby was his actual name.
@@dustinsindledecker154 Yes. Walter Andrew Brister III. His sisters called him Bubby and if only the Steelers hadn’t called him.
Funny thing is, Brister was right. Noll was never an offensive mastermind, but by 1990 it was ridiculous. Even in the highlights in this video you can see Brister having defenders in his face immediately after snapping the ball. And players can change their mind after watching game film, there was nothing wrong with his apology and you just completely put words in his mouth. Not your best video.
Honestly, Brister played on some really bad teams and was probably the best qb the Steelers had between Bradshaw and Roethlisberger. Granted, his competition was Mark Malone, Neil O'Donnell and Kordell Stewart; but still.
I'm a Steelers fan since 1977. I remember this Brister was right Walton's offense stunk for the first month of the1990 season. For the record I think O'Donnell and Stewart were both better QBs then Brister. O'Donnell took us to a SB and Stewart got us to a few AFC Championship games.
Bubby Brister was NOT the best QB between Bradshaw and Roethlisberger. The only one I’d take him over was Stoudt on the field and none off of it. Brister is the only Steelers QB between Bradshaw and Roethlisberger to not win a division title. The worst record they’ve had since 1969 was when he started. And he inherited a .500 team and went 5-11 for him.
I stand with Bubby Brister.
@@DolFan316 Then you’ll be sitting. I stand with Mike McKay. Look it up.
@@PittsburghMarky Brister didn't have the same team O'Donell and Stewart had. By your logic Archie Manning was one of the worst qbs ever to play.
Something more current please. Nobody gives a Kcuf about this bullshit and Bubby Brister.
Brister certainly wasnt the new bradshaw and certainly not the worst qb we've ever had, looking at you cordell and odonnal
Both Kordell and O’Donnell were twice the QB’s Brister was.
Well this is WHY the SHITTSBURGH STEELERS WILL ALWAYS BE WORSE than a 39.6. Bubby Brister kept the Steelers where they BELONG. In the TOILET BOWL. They would be WAY MORE ENTERTAINING if they just SPIKED the football into the ground on EVERY single OFFENSIVE play!!!!!
How many superbowls does your team have? 🤔
These comments are starting to get obnoxious as fuck