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In this episode we take a look at some facts, secrets, and history of Shadow the Hedgehog. Shadow the Hedgehog was developed by Sega Studio USA (formerly Sonic Team USA), and published by Sega for the GameCube, PlayStation 2 and Xbox. Similar to Sonic Adventure and Sonic Heroes, Shadow the Hedgehog is a 3D platform game, but incorporates shooter game elements and has a branching path story structure. The game had mixed reviews, but went on to sell over 1.5 million copies.
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"We received letters from kids, and many of them had asked for sonic to have a gun.."
Oh Christ..
COD kids before COD kids were even a thing
More like, COD kids were just becoming a thing
We have Halo and Goldeneye to blame for that.
+sneakyGasm nah just cod
+shadowspider9
I find it bizarre and tragic that parents are letting their kids play these Call of Duty games. Aren't those games rated M for Mature? Bad parenting ahoy.
You know what Shadow the Hedgehog did better than SA2 or Heroes?
Rail switching.
I'd say it did rail grinding the best out of the whole series so far, even Unleashed. It's reliable and easy to use (which makes it better than Heroes '06 or SA2), while also being a GAMEPLAY element, not an empty spectacle (Colours, Forces, the Storybook Games and Generations). Unleashed is 2nd best since it did both, just not quite as well.
and better than sonic and the roasting something over a campfire controls rings
your 100% right ganondork
It also didn't force you to play as other characters.
@@maybetoby Actually after going from heroes to Shadow the Hedgehog just recently. The game actually seems to play better than heroes with the controls not feeling quite as slippery. I also find Heroes' level design much more annoying to play through than Shadow the Hedgehogs levels for the most part.
We can learn from sonic team. If your kid friendly character can't have a gun, give it to a darker character.
vonsscout unless in smash he can shoot a Lazer gun ^_^
Its because shadow is a BLACK CREATURE
That's...
Racist
Who is in the same universe
Yeah, and watch people complain that it feels out of place because they are still comparing that darker character to the kid friendly one, lol.
>fans want Guns in a Sonic game
>complain about vehicles being out of place in a Sonic game
Okay.
I'm pretty sure not all fans agreed on the gun idea.
That statement makes the assumption that the fanbase is one united entity with one unified opinion.
DylanDude Thats nothing new tbh
Sansuke Rena
It's not true tho.
Sansuke Rena That doesn't justify its inaccuracy.
demonitized for saying damn
datz ofemsiv amd contwoversiaw... derrrr
HILARIOUS AND ORIGINAL
Dang.
I thought it's only because of tags that videos get demonitized
+Danny Lewis nope, it's based on the content of the video
This is still one of my biggest guilty pleasures.
Same here.
Same a remake or sequel would really please me
Say what you want about Shadow the Hedgehog, that game had a kickass soundtrack. I miss Crush 40 :(
Sonic 06 also had an awesome soundtrack.
I guess I rest my case.
what is you're profile picture?
Samuel Smith what happened to them?
PresidentOfSpace The last Sonic game they produced music for was Black Knight. Hopefully they'll return for Project 17.
Yeah, Shadow the Hedgehog has some great music just like the two Adventure titles
so you are telling me call of duty kids created shadow the hedgehog?
KBLively call of duty didn't start there. it started in 2003 and this came out in 2005
check your history
KBLively I wasn't trying to I just hate people who think that shooters are the only "real games" and the other games are for baby's and other bullshit like that. You probably aren't like that but still.
Ty shadowflame na man, no worries, we all now that shadow the hegdehog is a mature game with guns about a 3 foot hedgehog, like we dont use bright color only black because bright colors are for pussies
Heartstriker They specifically said that the game was aimed for Teens. It wasn't made for kids, but still too goofy for adults. Have a feeling you just suck at anything that isn't a fps...
So that's why it sucked.
5:21 "Shadow the Hedgehog is a unique, original character"
Oh my god, I'm fucking dying
DO NOT STEAL!
stealing your oc is like taking candy from a baby, which is fine by me
nice reference of shadow stealing a chaos emerald. and to the original comment poster, yea that's stupid/funny. it's Asian dry humor. and correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Gerald robotnik made shadow as a copy of sonic.
I have no idea about the timelines if the sonic universe. it seams almost as sqrewed up as metroid's. PS I hate other m.
Shadow's, like, 40 years older than Sonic.
He's basically just a harrier, miniaturized Vegeta.
"Shadow is an original character"... I know what he meant, but I can't help but think of all the Sonic-esque fan art out there with the phrase "Original character, do not steal".
I'm surprised that Shadow actually overtook Tails and Knux in popularity; I personally never liked Shadow very much as a character and found Knuckles to be more interesting (prior to Sonic Boom).
it was the orignal sonic OC, all the other OC's exist (or at least the major expansion of them) is due to shadow, which is essentially a cannon sonic OC, with silver being 2nd
+f45411 all the characters made for Sonic were made by Sonic team themselves. and the majority of them were made to be cool unlike most fan OCs
Samir Malik
yeah, but of course there will always be that gap between professional and fan works/characters
Shadow was my favorite, but that's largely because i think he had a lot of potential. Potential that sadly Sega will never use.
shadowspider9 shadow used to be my favorite. But now I've grown up and seen just how many problems there were in the way he was portrayed my current favorite is actually Blaze the Cat because she is calm, cute yet strong looking, has a bit of a cocky side, can Rocket Propel herself using her Flames like an acrobat and most of all she gets the most development out of any Sonic character I can name and it remains consistent.
"he's only the second most popular character in the whole canon"
Sonic Boom reference lol
"We received letters from kids who wants Sonic to have a gun."
Reminds of my weird self from 7th grade.
Back then I though that Lucario should get his own game, and it should be a FPS similar to Bioshock.
Not bad considering his movepool, ability to detect life, and potential story paths with being wild or trained
My number one guilty pleasure of the Sonic games. Yes, I actually like Shadow the Hedgehog despite its flaws with the mission structure. The criticism on the dark elements doesn't make any sense to me since it's centered around Shadow, not Sonic. And it fits the tone of the overall concept. Flawed, but good in my opinion.
I knew I wasn't the only one!
Thank God I'm not the only one.
who the fuck said they didnt like this game?!?!?! everyone fucking loved it
I agree!
Same, I really only hate you need to beat it what 10 times to get the true ending? It's what kept me from beating it for years
Idk about anyone else here but I would have loved to have seen Eggman in his own game.
Its knuckles for me then eggman
Shadow for me
I would love to see an Eggman game that's not like mean bean machine
Does Knuckles Chaotix ring a bell?
Cesar Melendez No I mean a true 3D game with knuckles alone being the main character, focus, and protagonist like this shadow game here but only waay better
I loved this game. The opening cutscene and the music was dope.
Emmanuel Fletcher me too.
KIDS asked for guns in a sonic game? KIDS????? Oh god.....
FUCK
Simple Seizures Gaming you do realize that those kids are adults now, right? So, basically OUR generation. So FUCK.
As someone who was a child when this came out, I can confirm that this is something kids would have wanted. Guns made everything cooler. I guarantee, if there was a Pikachu doll released where he was holding a gun, every kid would have wanted that.
CurtisAlfeld Believe or not, when I was a 7th grader, I always imagine Lucario using the guns from the Bioshock series.
I was pretty weird back then.
CurtisAlfeld And If he ever got a standalone game, I think it should be similar to the Bioshock series.
shadOW THE hEDGEhog
ow the edge
+Cam the Poptart of Doom good job on saying what he just said
+diggen pigeon thank you
YES
Inb4 top comment
Original the Character... DO NOT STEAL
Don't forget BATFACE THE ROGUE
And Arms with his freakishly long arms!
Now to get you across this gorge... AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
best oc ever 👌👌👌
*_D O N U T S T E E L_*
You've gotta be kidding me, guys!
This is like taking candy from a baby, which is fine by me!
i remember that line that shadow said in the game :)
That profile pic could not match is comment any better
Shadow the Hedgehog same here, bro!
How many times have you said damn in this game?
"This is pretty easy, which I'm perfectly fine with!"
"We received letters from kids, and many of them had asked for Sonic to have a gun."
Jesus christ I just felt my faith in humanity slip there.
To be fair, most kids are stupid.
I was only 9 years when the game came out. I am sorry for this mess every 9 year old in 2005 made
Ur faith is misplaced that's why. U use Jesus Christ as a swear word and put your faith in humanity. It should be in Jesus Christ Himself. He rose from the grave on your behalf and came to bring life and to bring it abundantly
@@realtalkwithjordan8026
Damn, someone is inspired today
I don't know why. When I was growing up, we used guns, because we weren't idiots and we were taught how to use them
So Sega USA is the one to blame? No wonder Shadow has guns in his game! 'MURICA!
'Murica: It doesn't have a gun? Give it a gun.
Actually more like children are to blame. That explains so much.
***** If children are to blame merely for mailing letters, everybody should mail them asking them to make a good Sonic game.
They made the choice, they are to blame.
Children logic to make games better :
Does the protagonist have a gun?
No : give him guns.
Yes : give him bigger guns.
Just like Rob Liefeld.
Nintendo would never give Mario a gun because kids sent letters.
"I PROMISE....REVENGE!"
Memory loss is a bitch.
"Shadow the Hedgehog: Rebel with a Cause.."
Oh my good lord why
this game was so underrated I love this game so much
gotta find that DAMN fourth chaos emerald
D A M N
D A M N
A M
M A
N M A D
Scott2781 since sega thought it was
first you need to FIND THE COMPUTER ROOM
Wait.. Is your profile pic the gingerbread man form Timesplitters 2?
Did you know... Sega have no idea what they are doing.
Sonic Mania and Project 2017 would like to have a word with you
+TRACFONE 16 Sonic Mania isn't even made by Sonic Team. You know you are inept when fan devs are better than you.
AtticWarrior1994 What did that have to do with my statment?
+AtticWarrior1994 And Sonic Boom wasn't made by Sonic team either.
Sonic boom was developed for next gen in Cryengine. Halfway through development, Sega struck an exclusivity deal with Nintendo for the Wii U. CryEngine can't run on WiiU so they had to port it.
So the point still stands. Sega have no idea what they're doing.
Ow The Edge
ShadOw The Edgehog
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Ow The Hedge! Son The Hedge!
@@cruzjunior05 "I hate edgy shit"
*In another comment thread says people who like a game should burn in hell*
Ok buddy
@@cruzjunior05 It's as edgy as the game Shadow The hedgehog
i will never understand why Americans think "damn" and "hell" are swear words then again were i live there are ok words to say in public and even in some cases formal settings.
@シャドウ Not enough Christians exist in America, since I happen to be one, thank you very much. And we Christians use the word damn all the time, that's how we talk about people going to hell. If you think it's okay to be bigoted against the dominant religious group in one of the world's major superpowers, I wouldn't do business in my country were I you. We welcome everyone, but we do not put up with being walked on. Bigot. I have some videos you might want to watch, maybe you would actually learn something.
I almost guarantee there are words that are taboo where you live, that are not taboo here in the US.
Adam Hovey Please calm down. You didn’t need to call them a bigot. They were simply stating a fact about their country’s vocabulary.
@@adamhovey407 lol there are way too many Christians in America, they're literally 75% of the population...
Cultural differences I guess. I mean it's weird for me when they freak out when PG or G rated content have words as damn or hell when say, those words are commonly used in Disney's spanish dubs
I'm not ashamed to admit i 100%ed this game.
I don't just mean i got all endings and A ranks. I mean I did all 326 possible routes through the game.
my hat off to ya, i've only clear the Digital Circuit routes
I almost did that. I think I got to about 150.
i did around 120 of the routes, however...
i'm ashamed to say, some levels were too hard for me and certain paths i could never do... ;_;
I did too...only to have my save file corrupted..........................................................
Welp, time begrudgingly do it again. At least Egg Breaker is a 20 second boss fight.
Hats off to you, man.
I love this game, yet even I don't have that level of patience.
The only thing towards 100% I've done is get all A Ranks. I still haven't gotten all of the keys in most levels.
In the comments: "Ow, the edge"
"Thanks, edgey kids"
"More like Edgehog, amirite?"
"I actually liked this silly game."
Same dualblade
YUP
I liked the game too!
Yea shadow the hedgehog was fun, it wasn't perfect, FAR FROM IT ACTUALLY!, but it was very fun and that's all I care about.
fuck you it all happened what are you man or god?
This video sort of proves to me that you can literally make any game sound good.
Am I the only one who actually think this game is ok?
nope. while not the best sonic game. it's a solid one alright
I had fun with it.
I enjoyed it. Yes, not the best, but a very unique game being set in the Sonic Universe
better then 06 and boom
you're not alone. this was one of my favorites as a kid
1:14
So edgy kids led to an edgy game. How fitting.
I always was suspicious as to why many sonic fans are to quickly dismiss it as a terrible sonic game, but now I know why! Cause and effect, kiddies!
You say that as though Sonic hasn't always been edgy. Are you new to this franchise?
To be fair, that's pretty much been Sonic in a nut shell. Its why he's a spiky mammal, runs fast, and eats chili dogs.
Then again, it wasn't the case for his classic counterpart; as one point he was going to be a cute little rabbit at one point during Sonic 1's development. His personality came about later to fit a more ~american~ environment... And it can't get more 'murican than Shadow the Hedgehog!
Meh, in the 90s being "totally radical" was cool for kids, jump 10 years later and dark, brooding anti-heroes became the bees knees
5:25 "Shadow the Hedgehog is a unique, original character, do not steal."
Say what you will about Shadow The Hedgehog, the game had really solid platforming, much more so than Sonic 06.
Seriously! I mean how can you hate on a game that's had a TON more polished than Sonic 06?
I'm not defending the game as a whole, overall it's bordering the line of bad and okay, but it did do SOME things right. More so than other Sonic games being released at the time or even afterwards.
Shadow had polished gameplay, but the story was complete garbage, the music was good and so were most of the levels, but those ark levels with Maria can burn in a fiery pit of doom.
I mean saying something is better than '06 barely even means jack shit, because if you think about it it's not actually that hard for a Sonic game to be better than '06. *_Glances at Sonic Boom Trilogy_* Never mind.
Shadow The Hegehog and Sonic 06 are actually decent games
Those kids Who requested for sonic to have a gun must have seen too many Yakuza or mafia movies.
Reginald MilesG7 I've been using handguns since I was a wee lad, that being said, I'm not morally ambiguous, I'm neutral to good.
Reginald MilesG7 or gta you know
Yeah
Should've had Linken Park playing in the background.
gimme the source of your pfp dad
I want a link too.
here for the pfp sauce
Gimme a link to yours I'll give you a link to mine
+Tharja Is Best Waifu please do so senpai
More like shadow the edgehog amiright
Wake me up insideeeee
+Gabriel Larena crawling in my skin
* can't wake up *
GENERIC EDGE JOKE FROM SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THE CHARACTER XDDDDDDDDD
SolidSanics GENERIC SONIC FAN SAYING SHIT XDXDXD
I unironically love this game. Shadow’s one of my favorite characters.
Edgy the Hedgy.
original
Sonic the Edgehog
"...but maybe it'd be okay with Shadow..."
Key word: *MAYBE*
I'd say it worked.
+Charles Banks Same here.
I believe the game's problems had more to do with the plot, the controls and Shadow himself as a character, rather than the guns.
This is why major video game companies shouldn't take game ideas from preteen children.
It worked fuck you
actually loved shadow the hedgehog, music was great, controls were smooth and gameplay was just fun.
i always thought it would get a sequel :( till i learned of its infamy
"controls were smooth"...
Because stiff movements means smooth movements right? Also you say the music was great. I bet you can not hum the tune of Glyphic Canyon, Circus Park, The Last Way, etc without having to look it up first. Shadow is a mess of a Sonic game.
+N The Hedgehog funny enough sometimes songs from shadow the hedgehog pop randomly in my head xD especially the opening. maaan you guys are just hating cx i like the game and still play it from time to time. lol and yes dude theres no way i remember those songs names except the opening caauusee why would i take the time to? but good for you dawg, when you tell your bitch you can name songs from shadow the hedgehog she'll be yours for life
+Sammy Ahmed yep, you would have to have bad reflexes to not know where you were going/doing.
shadow... it's been a long time since you were playable
I really loved this game, it was one of my favorites
Fucking hell, being a developer at Sonic Team must be the most soul crushing job in the world. An entire career making Sonic games... I'd just end it lmao
at the time it kind of was as Yuji Naka left because he was getting tired of the franchise. however the latest developers don't mind because now they have more freedom thanks to SEGA being more open to the community in general
From what i understand part of why Yugi Naka left was because he wasn't happy with his position.
Naka is a programmer who loves making games, but his success with the Sonic games resulted in him being moved up to management, where he couldn't do programming.
I thought the same thing as the band Crush 40 who did a lot of the 3D games' rock-ish soundtrack. That is their legacy, no matter what they try to do after Sonic.
Mhm, Yuji Naka's claim to fame was programming the "3D" first person dungeons for the original Phantasy Star on Master System! He's a very talented programmer.
shadowspider9 well it's less about that and more about doing nothing but Sonic. Before the 2000s Sonic team was allowed to work on anything they wanted from NiGHTS to Burning Rangers. They were not restricted to one franchise unlike now. Though like I said the current developers don't mind
I love this stupid game, it's hilarious
Unless you got it for your tenth birthday, then it's burned into your mind as the game where Shadow shot Sonic in the opening cutscene
+The Banana Melon Haha I got 2 copies of this for Christmas,
+The Banana Melon and that was badass, fuck sonic and his chilidog bullshit.
+Green Sanic Oh boohoo get over it.
+The Banana Melon Hell yea man I still like this game got it on my 12th birthday I remember I spent the first 10 mins just re watching the intro.
2:53 DID HE JUST PUMP A SUBMACHINE GUN AAAAHHHAHAHA
Just Another FurrFag Yes.
Just Another FurrFag Why put in guns when they know nothing about them.
@@andrehernandez9857 I mean, in several old FPS games you never reload, and Half-Life is known for having all their real-life weapons do things that they never do in real life.
At 0:36, you could hear brutalmoose call eggman: "Dr. Eggman." Although he probably messed up.
Had potential. Just was way too ambitious.
*Ambivalent
*too extreme and edgy
got to give shadow credit though
he gets stuff done in his game
Its main problem was its bad release time, I had always believed. And, after seeing this video, I am even more convinced about it.
+Zegorykz What do you mean?
OW THE EDGE
Was about to comment the same thing
incredible, I've never heard this joke before
GENERIC EDGE JOKE FROM SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THE CHARACTER XDDDDDDDDD
Malaikat31 gran autismo*
I just cut myself on the edge 😩
This is by far my favorite Sonic game! Brings back a lot of memories!
This is totally unrelated, but oh my god, Shadow's pose at 3:51 ??? That is a Rouge pose. I've never seen Shadow sit like that. (But him hanging out with Rouge enough that they start mirroring each other's body language would be a sweet headcanon)
If the game wasn't so glitchy I'd honestly like Shadow the Hedgehog a lot. I appreciate the story telling, the story paths one could take, and the fact that they at least tried a lot of new ideas. Unfortunately the quality of the game itself was really low and I think that affected people's opinions on everything else in the game.
What glitches? Only bug/glitch i know of is the infinate chaos control, which i can't do on my ps2
The glitchy camera, I clipped through the world more than once. The early game is honestly really tight all things considered, by by the final level it is almost literally falling apart.
glitches or the camera never bothered me in this game what I hated was the fact that you had to beat it 10 times to get the real ending other than that most of my problems with it are very minor and I like it for what it is
I didn't have a problem.
It's not as glitchy as Sonic 06 though
always had problems with the camera since sonic went 3d, I'm not even sure that can be considered a glithc
Am I the only one here who played this game and liked it?
Yes...
It's way more playable than Sonic The Hedgehog (2006).
***** You mean Sonic '06?
No I liked it
Honestly I think it's worse than 06
I don't care what people says...
I LOVE THIS GAME. Duno why people hate it...
People hate it mostly because of the mission structure, and the general design of the game. Shadow the Hedgehog was *extremely* dark for a Sonic game. It was a huge shift in the overall tone of the franchise, and it was just too big of a pill to swallow. Shadow didn't need to be given minor curse words, nor did he need to be given guns. Having to play Westopolis ten times just to get to the final story can be tedious, especially when you consider the Hero and Dark missions where you have to kill *everything* in the level, otherwise you're backtracking for at least two or three minutes.
This "Kill everything in the level" setup, as well as the level design, is why The Doom and Lost Impact are easily the *worst* levels in the game. It's a complete maze, and you have to kill *everything* in the level if you're not going for the goal ring. And if you miss *one* enemy, you're backtracking for at least ten minutes just to find the one GUN soldier or Artificial Chaos that you might've missed.
The plot was also...uh...let's say lacking. The majority of the game, apart from the intro cutscene and the last story, was not canon anyway. None of the ten endings were even remotely close to being canon. Not to mention that the game expects us to remember Professor Gerald as a great guy. No, I won't remember him as a great guy, I *played* Sonic Adventure 2. There's no way I'll forget how he programmed the Ark to ram into the planet to end all life as we know it cause Maria got shot. That also brings up the GUN commander. He *works* for GUN, how does he not know the politics behind the raid? How does he not know that Shadow was *not* responsible for Maria's death? The game just brings up more questions than answers.
All of this is coming from someone who likes the game. Shadow the Hedgehog came out when I was right in its target demographic; a Shadow fanboy/fangirl that was also an edgy preteen. Shadow the Hedgehog wasn't a good game, but it also wasn't a *bad* game. Overall, I'd say it's mediocre at best. I used to defend the game tooth and nail, but now that I've gotten older, I can really see what people are talking about, and I completely agree with them. I still like it, but I'll no longer regard it as absolutely perfect. It's a very, very flawed game.
@@97dusk
Nothing in Sonic Adventure 2 Shadow The Hedgehog Sonic 2006 and Sonic And The Black Knight is inappropriately dark for the core audience the Sonic series gears towards
I hate it because of the mission structure and confusing/stressfull levels, messy desing and other things that are from gameplay
2:21 he says it SO CALM 😂😂😂
I dont give a rats ass how "edgy" everyone says shadow is, I've always thought he was a badass...
*linkin park begins to play*
+Bob Snob What a surprise, stereotypical LP "edgyness" comment. Hilarious and original.
linkin park increases
That's what "edge" means. Forget the memetic use and refer to its actual marketing terminology.
+Arceny Hax Eh, for 10 year olds, it sure as hell was. ;)
Ever since Sonic 06 it seems like Shadow is in less and less Sonic games and if he is in the game he is barely part of the story or even playable. He is one of my favorite characters. Its like they didn't know what to do with him after he was so awesome in Sonic Adventure 2's ending.
aside from Sonic Generations we haven't seen the character in 10 years.
Wasn't he in Secret Rings and the PSP Sonic Rivals games?
Shadow Ninja Secret Rings was a party game if we're talking about Shadow properly showing up. Sonic Rivals came out in 2006 by the way
That's true for all the character though. People hated the friend after 06 so Sega put every side character besides Tails and Amy in storage. It took till Lost World for Knuckles to come back at all, and the games still advertise 'you only play as Sonic' as a feature.
shadowspider9 considering that the tagline for Sonic 17 has join the resistance I'm expecting playable characters again like Shadow and Blaze
2:00 'morally ambiguous'. ladies and gentlemen, a testament to the many damages this game caused to shadow's character
i don't understand where the people keep getting this and the 'hIs OwN rEasONs' schtick from
shadow has never been 'morally ambiguous'. as soon as he overcame his programming in sa2, he saved the world from the space colony ark. he didn't do it for 'his own reasons', or 'because of maria', he told amy that he was keeping his promise to maria, *and* to her (basically humanity) too. he awakens in heroes and the *FIRST* thing he does is save rouge. without any qualms, he teams up with the both of them so they could help eachother find their answers; and doesn't think twice about helping out against metal overlord with the others. he *then* tries to destroy emerl, because he believed he was a threat to *humanity* but after removing that piece of his programming, literally befriends him, and has friendly competition with him. like, shadow's a hero. it's really not that complicated.
i mean, none of us are really surprised, bc this isn't the first time they bastardised a character to fit a trope;
knuckles became big, stupid and forgot about the master emerald. he was legit acquitted of being sonic's rival, and stopped being cool ever since forever -singlehandedly killed 80% of his own men due to negligence.-
-tails needed to be the geek character, so they took away all his combat potential, all his character development, and all his maturity to pander to the stereotype
-at least when amy was an annoying fangirl she didn't put people to sleep. what even is her personality anymore
-idk how to feel about silver
-and the others just have no personality
sigh, tis the current state of sonic
this is probably in my top 5 favorite sonic games so far (i'm currently on a quest to play every sonic game and just finished shadow earlier this week and i thought it was awesome)
So Shadow was literally made because kids wanted Sonic to have a gun.
Yeah that seems right.
And thus, Sega never listened to their fanbase again, causing them to create an experiment gone wrong.
+bumbruh Looks like they took that statement way too far. * looks towards 06 and Boom
XD
and that's what happens when you take kid's advices for a game
Damn Sonic fans had to ruin EVERYTHING for the Phantasy Star fans, didn't they?.... along with the countless numbers of fans of other great games Sega use to make before they started acting like Sonic was the only property that they have.
"Shadow the hedgehog is a unique, original character,"
-Takashi Iizuka, Director of Shadow the Hedgehog
5:21
Shadow the hedgehog, SEGA' s own oc to their own game. That is dedication.
Those 14 year olds reeeaaally like their Shadow.
And is damn really considered a swear in the US?
Meh, kind of. Enough to ward off an E rating, but it's not like people will freak out over it.
Huh....ok. It's just that, as far as I know, it's sorta normal in the UK. Like saying poo or bugger.
For the record, it was censored in Smash despite that game having a E+10 rating. So I guess it became T rating material nowadays.
It's kind of like "hell" in the US. We have a lot of heavily religious groups in the country who will protest at the drop of a hat, so it's not actually as offensive to the vast majority as Hollywood and everybody thinks it is.
It depends on how it's used.
I love this game so much. It's literally one of my favorite Sonic games ever and Shadow is so awesome.
You haven't played a Sonic game have you
Ya, I have. I love Sonic Heroes, Sonic Adventure 2, and Sonic Generations, as well as the 3 original Sonic games, but none of them are as fun to me as this game. Plus, Shadow is my favorite character in the Sonic universe. I recognize that this game has a lot of faults, but so do a lot of Sonic games.
Rayko I'm not trying to attack you because your opinion is different then mine. That being said, your opinion sucks.
+bumbruh Quit being a pretentious piece of shit.
+bumbruh I'm a guy. it's what we do.
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Bitch, please. Raiden fron Metal Gear Rising is more edgy than Shadow.
i was gonna comment that you fucking content stealer
banned by mr rental
juice huehue
wow you could have made that fucking edgy as fuck but YOU FUCKIN FAILED
This game was fun, but sadly, this game had lots of plotholes that made absolutely no sense.
Two player was fun. Speaking of which, if a second player picks up a controller while another character like Sonic is in the level, they could play as sonic and interact with the environment (without guns, of course). I learned that on my own when I was 4 and I was unbelievably happy about it.
Dear DYKG,
Please give us DYKG Xenoblade Chronicles narrated by Chuggaaconroy.
Please.
Please.
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+Silent Shadow Possibly the biggest Xenoblade fan in the CZcams gaming community.
Honestly, I didn't find shadow to be that bad of a game when you ignore it's sonic characters.
Same goes with Sonic Unleashed, just pretend you're playing god of war at night ;P
I know, forget what it's called just try it!
The only thing i disliked about Unleashed was that you had to collect those coins before progressing
I liked Sonic Unleashed. I never did %100 the game though, I just beat it all the way to the end. Unlike Shadow the Hedgehog, you didn't have to get anything crazy like beating a whole bunch of endings to get the true end.
Nathan Hernandez
Sonic game I had the hardest time beating to the "true ending" was probably... Sonic Heroes.
Chaotix missions took too long; and the bonus stage copied from Sonic 2 was broken (as in it was buggy; making it VERY difficult to get the chaos emeralds)
Gotta agree %100 on Sonic Heroes, I though getting the Chaos Emeralds was so much more annoying to do alongside playing all of the teams made it less worth my time than Shadow the Hedgehog.
shadow the hedgehog is a great game and still is
Agree
*is*
*Still is*
Yeah that's what "is" mean
I feel like having a sonic game having branching path/story would be fitting for a Silver game, since hes affiliated with time travel
Gee, Where is that DARNED fourth Chaos Emeralf
*Emerdood
Your going straight to heck!
Cereal And Milk!
why have you called upon ralf you stale end piece of a white. bread loaf?#
This is like taking candy from a baby...Which isn't very good!
What do people have against this game?! It's not THAT much of a tonal shift, and it's a lot of fun to play!
So you enjoy playing Westopolis 10 times, have no meaning to your chosen path, disjointed story, an almost useless homing attack and melee attack, having characters of one alignment chew you for attack enemies of the same alignment when it's a time where you literally have no choice on the matter, 30 minute long ark missions, out of wack level design, badly implemented vehicles with no real incentive to use them outside manditory segments, needing to go through the same path area 2 for 5 routes just to even get to the final story, and lets not forget how slippery shadow can get.
If you can manage to sit through all of that. More power to you.
Too many plot point issues as well as replayability being incredibly poor.
+NamekuBushi Don't forget the "trying too hard to be edgy and mature, but actually becoming more childish because of it" aspect of the game's story
"Not that much of a tonal shift"
Have you ever PLAYED a Sonic game?
someone watches alot of johhny
I enjoyed Shadow the Hedgehog. It was the first game I played that had different storylines depending on player choice.
"renegade hedgehog"
I can imagine them dancing renegade
Meh. I enjoyed the game for what it was. Never played it with _"it's a Sonic game"_ in mind, which seems to have been the right thing, seeing how developers themselves indeed wanted it to be something other than a Sonic game. Once you stop worrying about trying to get the "Sonic formula" in the game, it is pretty fun to play, actually, although I admit some of the bugs and overly long stages can get annoying at times. And Shadow's backstory is more interesting than Shadow himself as a character, which is something I have conflict with.
Not a perfect game, but definitely not worth being thrown with the likes of Sonic '06, Secret Rings and Boom as it often is.
The problem with that idea is the game plays like it's a Sonic game. Most spin-off's are a different genre from the main game, or in Sonic Booms case, an entirely different style of platformer.
Shadow however has everything that makes a Sonic game a Sonic game.
Yup, because there's definitely other platformers that have you collect rings while going fast. You were purposefully playing it trying to ignore the "it's a sonic game" thing. Also, this game is still trash as a standalone game, not just as a Sonic game.
Kingdom080500 Rings are just Sonic's take on the platformer trope of going around collecting things, like Mario's coins, Donkey Kong's bananas, etc. It having rings and going fast do not automatically make it a Sonic game. Otherwise, Sonic Riders would also be a classic "Sonic" game by definition, and it most certainly is not.
If the developers made it with the intention of it being different, most people say it plays differently and it is even named differently, then guess what: *it is not a goddamn Sonic game*. What more proof would you need..? A goverment-signed law stating it is not a Sonic game..?
Mario Party is not automatically a classic "Mario game" because it has "Mario" in the name and as a character, nor is Kingdom Hearts a "Final Fantasy" game because it has FF characters and is an RPG. Just like Shadow the Hedgehog, all of them were made to be their own, independent titles that happen to be related to preexisting ones, and nobody denies it for the 2 I mentioned, yet Shadow is somehow the exception because Sonic fans cannot spent even 2 minutes without being their stereotypical selves on the internet, and then they wonder why people give them shit.
Zegorykz
All those spin-off's you mentioned are completely different genre's from the main series.
Shadow is a Sonic game because it's a platformer that plays like a Sonic style platformer.
It has Sonic style level geometry of slopes, curves, hills, and loops.
It has all of the Sonic style gameplay such as spin dashing, homing attacking, rail grinding, and light speed dashing.
Hell it's built using the Sonic Heroes game engine.
***** Man, even with these binoculars on, I still can't find anything relevant about your comment.
I loved this game. I normally don't like 'violent' games that use weapons (this game proved that when given an outlet I have a bad case of 'chronic backstabbing disorder' soo...whoops?) but I really loved this! My favourite part was the idea that your character (Shadow) is trying to learn who he is as a person and that who he allies himself with (Doom, Sonic & Co, or no one) determines how he views himself, and changes his history. (sorta, obviously the True Ending is the real one) I actually love that as a concept and I wish more would be done like that. I think it worked very well for Shadow.
One of my favorite Sonic games.
I played the fuck out of this game as a kid, but I know why people don't like it
Sloppy controls, shitty cast, nonsensical and irrelevant plot for the most part and Shadow the Hedgehog being portrayed as a completely bland and uncharismatic protagonist.
Yh thats why lol
Vocalist92 same xD
Guillem Moreno Charismatic?
I don't think Shadow's suppose to be charismatic, he's suppose to be pissed off and confused.
Also the story was damn (swear word!) interesting.
This game came out when I was 10 and going through a punk rocker phase. When I got my hands on this game I enjoyed it, and I still do. So what if edgy kids wanted to see Sonic with a gun? It's by no means the best game, but it's not terrible. I see it the same way with Twilight Princess & ppl criticizing it for "trying to be too dark." No matter what, this game will always be special to me :)
Twilight Princess gets way less criticism for that than shadow the hedgehog, mainly because TP was pretty much best or second best 3D zelda game whereas Shadow was a mediocre 3D sonic game.
10 year old punk rocker, gtfo of here
Wtf? There's nothing edgy about TP.
Kingdom080500 The darker appearance and plot than the average Zelda game caused people to say that.
skinsman82000 I know right!? XD I listened to all types of bands from the 80s and a lot of pop punk too. I was a strange child.
I love this game, screw the haters
*Are you sure about that*
bumbruh Yes
+bumbruh he wouldn't have said it if he wasn't
The game was awesome 😎
Gunnar Wood Um... With a profile picture like that, i think the same could be said for you.
I wonder if Sega will make another Edgehog game, it seems they were pretty confident in it. lol
3:20 Well, they did change stuff to make the game less mature but that scene right there... Childhood ruined forever (Unless you like Shadow more, it's a good thing showing what Shadow is, I guess?)
I'll admit, this game is a guilty pleasure of mine. It was my first ever Sonic game and I loved how you could go down various paths. Playing it again, it doesn't hold up as much, but I still can't help but enjoy it.
praise this video for being unbiased!
well said
Earth Tooth when are they ever biased?
I think he was implying that there's finally been an unbiased video on this game.
Not an unbiased video from the channel
Tye the Monado Boy (I'm not a he, I'm a they)
But yeah that is what I meant!
oh! whoops sorry, i have a habit of calling everyone "he" because i call everyone "dude"
Shadow The Hedgehog was the first symptom of Sonic Team wanting to make other games but cant, coz theyre named "Sonic Team" for some reason.
God Of War, Twilight Princess, SM Galaxy, Final Fantasy and Breath of the Wild all come to mind.
I adored this game as a kid and I still love it to this day, would of been cool if there was a sequel. You have to get into it properly to enjoy it
Last time I was this early, Undertale didn't exist............sigh.
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Lol that's the saddest comment I've read in ages
What a wonderful time it was.
Last time underfags didnt exist
Last time I was this early shadow wasn't this edgy
"We felt that it wasn't appropriate for a talking blue cartoon hedgehog to have a gun but maybe it'd be ok with a talking black cartoon hedgehog"
If I were to recreate Shadow the Hedgehog, I would redesign a lot of things.
Guns would be removed and give Shadow his powers instead. It's also kinda of a bare bones game, so I'll add some extra modes, unlockables, and what not. Reduce the endings to 5 (the true ending, 2 good endings, and 2 bad endings), and you don't have to get all endings to get the true ending. There a ton more that needs to be changed, but I don't feel like listing them all.
I love the ideas, except the first part.
Powers-only part would be better for a Super Shadow-mode where he turns all Saiyan-like.
@@KenMasters. then, idk, what would he use? I still don't want guns in the game, that's just silly
@@thephantombooger
The idea of bullets and missiles in the game actually came from the G.U.N. militia from Sonic Adventure 2 Battle, this militia was put in Shadow's game so Shadow himself can use their firearms and vehicles as an advantage similar to Grand Theft Auto III, Vice City, and San Andreas. I'd say the true gun users are Gamma & Omega.
If Sonic Team is better off with melee weapons such as Blades, Hammers, Metallic Knuckles, Lasers, and the weapons of Eggman.
I have played this game way too much XD It has good and bad points, but overall I love it! Great vid!
Imagine if Nintendo made a Wario game where he had a gun and shot Mario in the opening cutscene.
It would still be a better game than shadow the hedgehog
Tank Engine Films 2016 Probably.
Looney Toons anybody?
Samir Malik I love the Looney Tunes!
I hate to say this, but I think Loonatics Unleashed isn't that half bad.
Oh god I remember this game. Multiplayer was actually pretty fun with a friend, to be fair.
Yeah the multiplayer in this game was unexpectedly fun for such a shitty game.
As long as you didn't play as robot shadow with infinite ammo
Yeah, the multiplayer was the best aspect of the game. Everything else though, I didn't like very much at all and stopped playing after a few levels. This is coming from someone who loved Sonic Heroes.
so your telling me not holding a giant minigun is op?
I remember being able to plug in a second controller during a story mode mission and when sonic appeared it allowed me to control him too
Wow I learned a lot love your videos I love sonic the hedgehog even shadow put when I hear the truth about them I still love em
You should do a video on Rosalina and Daisy from Mario
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+Enderrocer GD huehuehuehuehue
I actually really like Shadow the game, I always felt like they were trying to spin-off with Shadow and it looks like I was right. I always looks at Shadow the game as the "Super Mario Land 3: Wario Land" of Sonic games. Sure wish we had gotten our "Wario Land 2, 3 & 4" for the Sonic series. Also really wish we had gotten a (new) Tails game.
4:19 - Thank god you guys covered this, now I can finally stop debating this same battle every time I talk about Shadow.
"we recieved letters from *KIDS* for sonic to have a gun"
many say guns ruin the game... kids ruined this too...
Only if your a long time Sonic fan.
I swear, that theme song and the Westopolis theme are my *jam*