DID HARLEY GET IT RIGHT WITH THE NEW FAT BOY? | H-D FATBOY HEAD-TO-HEAD COMPARISON
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- čas přidán 2. 08. 2020
- The Harley-Davidson Fatboy was made famous after its appearance in the 1991 action film "The Terminator 2" starring Arnold Schwarzenegger. It is arguably the most recognizable Harley model ever built. So with so much history and so much renown behind the famed model, why did Harley change so much about it for the 2018 model year? What changes did they make? And, ultimately, did Harley get it right?
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"Old school" looks way better in my opinion
Agreed sleeker in width, I love the handlebars on the old school way better, the solid wheels look better on the old school...almost everything looks better
Couldn’t disagree more. Different strokes for different folks.
@@BackcountryTreks I'm an old fart. I haven't liked the Harley designs from 2005 on up. They're nice bikes, just don't like the way they look anymore
The new design blows the old one away in just about every way.
Honestly the old one looks awful next to this sexy new beauty!
@dailykaizen8313 I think they both look good. The older model is better for the price. Wouldn't have it in blue tho, needs to be in black.
For me, it's old style, love the 2011 (I own a 2012 Fat Boy Lo) but what the hey, I'm a 74 year old woman who has been riding for 50+ years and it's always going to be old style for me hahaha!
I respect that you keep your roots
Wow Julia 74 thats great to read. You make me feel young as I am aged 71 . Did you ever see Elvis live. Its a real shame that he never came over to the UK. I would have loved to go over to the States during this era as I grew up watching American tv programmes. Lets both much sure we are till riding in our 80s. Stay save. Ted
Big respect Mam.
I'm with ya!
Old School all the way!
Though I'm about half the age I still have good taste. ;)
I'm looking for a 97'-99' Fat Boy.
Old school for me too! I'm saving for one of these but I want EVO.
Long live my Evo’s
As an old school biker I didn’t want to like the new one! But I gotta say, I absolutely love everything about my 114 fat boy!
I just bought a 2022 Fatboy and I fell in love with it as soon as I rode it. It's a pure muscle bike. The looks drew me in, riding it sealed the deal for me.
Any upgrades?
@@crunchnuts just some Vance and Hines Short Shots. It just doesn’t need a lot IMO.
I just bought a 22 fat boy myself and absolutely love it, it’s completely stock but I’m looking into some exhaust. are the Vance and Hines short shots worth it?
@@daltonsweiger5102 They look and sound great.
@@guffinator70 awesome, I’ll definitely be looking into them
Love my 2004 Fatboy!! Turns heads at every corner !!!
@@daviedood2503 What reason is it then?
@@daviedood2503 So you know the guy personally? That's cool. Sounds like the only one compensating and has an ego is you but what the hell do I care.
@@daviedood2503 You confuse me commenting with actually "caring". You can say whatever makes you feel like a tough guy I honestly don't care. Knowing you couldn't resist replying back with such ego I was just curious what words of wisdom you might have to share with us all today. You sound about as mature as an angry little 6yr old. Again I'm more analyzing idiots on CZcams like yourself because I find it interesting how much hatred there is in this world. Again I don't care, just looking in. It's always easy acting tough behind a computer. People like yourself don't know about respect and bark real loud until they try it in person and get delt with. Just remember there's always someone bigger and badder than yourself that doesn't mind taking out the trash but hell what do I care right?
@@daviedood2503 Wow you really got me all figured out. How am I trying to sound tough? I'm simply stating facts. Another fun fact I don't have any feelings. Lost those long ago but thanks for assuming I do. Have fun getting your jollys off being immature and tough to people. You should try it in person sometime. These are all just words on a screen, it was a good chat.
Ditto and ditto 🛵 mine's in Lava Red
Old look with fog lights looks great than all the world
I have a 2003 fat boy white pearl. It’s gorgeous. I like both styles but the old school is truly an American icon.
Yes just got a 2016 Fat Boy S the Traditional look is the best and they are a Kick Ass Bike.not this new gay look
@@ballaratevil6048 Agree! your bike is beautiful! Where are you from? It looks like you’re not in the US
@@orangewhip115 australia Adelaide had it for 2 weeks 2500 K's on it when I got it and I am out of this world This Bike has a Soul and is My first Harley I am so Lucky I got the best one
@@ballaratevil6048 oh Australia! You’re enjoying the good weather I bet! We are under a foot a snow! I look at my bike all alone in the garage and cry! Lol!
@@orangewhip115 yes I see what is happeneing over there and yes summer here so making the most of it but I am so glad I waited to Buy A Harley now as My Mercedes 2008 E280 sport nice better shape and the price was cheap but Harleys here are like Gold hold their price big time I cant see Your bike
Have a 2018 FatBoy 114 and love it !,
I’ve owned a 2012 Fat Boy and I’ve now just bought the new Fat Boy. I loved my old bike, but the New Fat Boy is just something else and Harley Davidson have taken this iconic bike to a new level
I ride a 2011 Fatboy lo. I prefer the the older model than the new one. The new Fatboy reminds me of my friends m109R for some reason but that's what I think.however I never rode the M8 but I think it would be badass. Ride safe everyone.
And don't forget to wear your high viz 😊
Rode old and new. The biggest difference is the feel of the motor bouncing or not. I like feeling the motor bounce personally. That’s what makes it a Harley
I like both probably leaning a little towards the 2018. Very cool looking bikes but for some reason, I'm just not a fan of the solid front wheels. They look cool on the back though.
Old school just bought the 2011 same color cool blue pearl and I love it looks great rides like a dream very nice very happy with the bike!!
I bought my first Fatboy in 1992 and my last one (Fatboy S) in 2015. I test rode the 2018 Fatboy 114. Nice bike but it no longer feels like a Fatboy. I'm also old school so like the full rear fender. Not a fan either of the new headlight. Like I said earlier...I bought my last Fatboy in 2015.
I have the same feeling, I just tested the 2023, yes its new and powerfull but you dont need it. The position was not good and wheels to wide. It could have been a Yamaha did not feel like a Harley.
Old skool!
I have the 2010 Fatboy Lo, and I love it. Ironically, I put a freight train cowl and thicker trim ring on it. I just liked the look better. I do wish it had the bigger 107 engine.
Old Skool Fatboy all the way. Such an iconic bike. I get they have to evolve it, but it was pretty perfect from the start. The only flaw with a Fatboy as a hwy bike is the wheels. The solid wheels are brutal in high winds.
I'm an owner of the original 1990 silver with yellow bits Fatboy (Grey Ghost). That big round chrome headlight housing is essential. The 2018 with integrated front cowls and lamp just looks all wrong to me and must be a pig to maintain and adjust if necessary.
Oh, and original Fatboys are not comfy. They may look very similar to the Heritage Softail, but the Fatboys fancy pig skin leather seat is much thinner in padding. You'll be lucky to get 50 miles on it when new before a numb arse, and work your way up to 100 miles over a year or so. In the 60k+ miles its done, I've had a rider's seat re-fluffed twice !
The Grey Ghost is easily the best looking of any Fatboy, but then again, I'm biased
I like the engine improvements on the M8, but it doesn't sound like a proper HD to my ears. Styling-wise, I like the older look. I've got a 2015 FB, and I'm in no hurry to trade it in on a new one.
Thanks Mason. You won't believe what you are about to read. I recently traded my BMW GS in for my first Harley a Pan American Special and as good as the bike is , and it is good , I was missing the low down toque of the GS but couldn't go back to one as I have made so many friends at our local Harley dealership over here in the UK. What to do then ! Bank account was dry having brought the PAS so all I could do was to buy an older Harley. So I have brought a 2014 Fat boy and I just love it. Its great to see that you have a lot of respect for the older version as well. Definitely as you advice going to get a screen for it as well. Can you recommend anyone in the States to buy one from. Stay safe out there. Ted
New Fatboy is Hell of a Beast with that Headlight, M8 engine & the Fat tyre, it’s awesome 👍👍👍👍👍
Love mine!!
Funny those are all the reasons I don't like it. haha
I'll take skinnier tires, a better sounding engine and a round headlight.
I guess I'm old school. I don't need a "fast" Harley.
Look like jap bikes, but the modern biker look like transvestites so go for it. It’s your world these days
I’ve owned an old and new Fatboy and I respect the opinions of both sides as to which bike looks better..I will say that the suspension and 114 motor on the new bike beats the older one hands down..enjoy your ride..
I agree but they look like a rice burner.
@@jbeam794 yep, jap bike
I like the older design. I have a 2008. The M8 107 motor is a beast, my girl has one in her Softail Slim
Thanks for the review. I currently own a 2018 Fatboy this is my first bike, and I am having a blast.
Ride safe
First bike. How does that work. Surely you have to train on a 125 or thereabouts first ?
Not in the states. Once you’ve got your full motorcycle endorsement you can ride a bike with virtually any displacement. My first bike was also an HD Dyna. I bought it the week after I got my endorsement. It had a 96ci motor in it. Perfect learner’s bike, in my opinion
@@TheTwoWheeledTeacher ah, but once you got your full license. So whilst a learner, what were you riding. Something much smaller in capacity I'm sure, hence my point that a Harley is not one's first motorbike
Nope, there was no learners permit stage for me. Took a close over the course of a weekend. Spent about 8 hours in a parking lot on a Honda 250, 8 hours in a classroom and left with a full motorcycle license.
@@TheTwoWheeledTeacher well I guess a Dyna is a more sensible machine than some. Easy to ride, therefore ok for a novice, but still too big and heavy for a UK legal aged 17yo I'd say. Well that was the legal age for passing a full sized motorbike test when I did, back in 1977 aged 17. Now UK motorbike tests, with your age, experience and bike power rating, are so complicated now, I've lost track. I don't think the government really wants us riding motorcycles, so make it very difficult to get legal.
I prefer the narrower tyres on the older models
normal? My idle is high on the stop in neutral is doing 1290 on rpm .. is this normal?
I have a 2019 Fatboy. I love it!! I went from a 2012 street glide with 103 to this one. The Milwaukee 8 seems better in every way over the twin can to me. Mine has the 114 on it. Power is bonkers for a cruiser.
Bummer about the audio. Aside from 1 being blue and the other black and the chopped fenders...
I wish they would've stuck with the old school front end and headlight on the new fatboys
I've grown up loving the Fatboys, and I didn't like the new one at first but it's definitely grown on me.
When you look at it you KNOW it's a Fatboy, and that's what matters.
It's definitely making it's statement and letting you know, and that's what matters!
Def new look. So clean and beautiful ❤️. I love my 2018 Fatboy pearl white with them flakes on it.
i'm in love with my fatty 1340 :)
Evo! Had one very cool
@@rshunley1 Bro! 3 yr.ago… sadly i sold my Evo.☹️☹️
Love it the new look , still can’t afford HD but that’s ok !!! 🙏🙌😂
Buy an older one. Great deals on them.
I owned a 1990 original Fatboy and just bought 2023 114. From memory, I somewhat disagree with this video. The seating position is not the same between the two bikes as the handlebars and grips were set better on the older one to provide more comfort at least for shorter drivers like myself. Also I have the impression that the hand controls on the new bike are farther apart from the grips compared to the old one. I could be wrong but that’s the impression I get. Motor is of course different. More powerful for sure but it’s got less character.
Very true!! Mine is a 99 fatboy
Gladiator, can I ask how tall you are?
@@scotttracy9333 Yes of course; I am 5,6.
I didn't ride the old model but i have the new model and it is incredible. My old bike is a sportster custom 883.
Thanks for watching! I really enjoyed the 2018, and have since reviewed a 114. Absolutely love that bike!
@@TheTwoWheeledTeacher hi, could you please send me the link for your review of the 114
Here you go! czcams.com/video/RsAwWLcTYJY/video.html
@@TheTwoWheeledTeacher thanks man
I prefer the look of the 2011. I would like to know if you have made a comparison between the heritage and the fat boy. I have a 2014 heritage and love it.
Newer look. Former owner of a 2021 Fatty, now on a Street Glide - I do miss riding my Fatty and regret trading it in.
I almost bought a 2019/114 FB . . . . BUT . . .
I thought for $27,000 CAD I better fall in love with this thing!
So . . . I rented one for a weekend off my local dealer from his demo fleet.
Cost me $200 CAD . . . money well spent.
First impressions of the 2019:
I like the new front headlight design.
I hate the fenders . . . especially the rear . . . too short IMHO.
I ABSOLUTELY HATE the larger tires . . especially the rear . . . too wide.
Takes noticeably more effort in the twisties.
Stock HD suspension on the 2019 FB IS STILL CRAP . . . just like all their bikes.
I HATE the Throttle By Wire . . . . nothing beats properly set throttle cables.
Yes . . . the 114 M8 makes a bit more power than the 103 TC . . .
but not the night and day difference I expected . . .
and no . . . I am not spending 6000+ to give the 103 more power.
If have the urge to go faster, I will ride my 2008 Honda CBF1000 that day
and beat almost anything out there and it only cost me $4700 CAD.
Yes I have 2 Hondas and a Fatboy. :)
So . . . went looking for a nice 2017 or older FB which I like
the overall, traditional FB look better anyway.
Found a MINT, one-owner 2013 FB Lo with 10,000 miles on it.
Had about $4000 CAD in nice accessories on it including V&H Big Long Shots
and SE Ventilator Air Cleaner.
Bought it for $12,000 CAD ($9000 USD) Cash.
Bike included ALL the OEM parts. BONUS!
Rode it home 18 miles.
HATED the V&H pipes. WAY TOO LOUD!
HATED the stock rear suspension.
Once home (same day), I took off the V&H pipes and SE Air Cleaner
and installed the stock pipes and air filter. AWESOME!
Sold those parts for $700 CAD.
Next day ordered Progressive Suspension 422C Heavy Duty Rear shocks and Fork Springs
which cost about $900 CAD.
They arrived a week later and I installed the PS shocks at there highest position.
Took it for a ride and WOW! No more bottoming out. LOVE IT!
Following weekend we did the PS fork springs and set the steering head bearings.
WOW AGAIN!
Next Monday, installed a set of Michelin Commander 3s after taking of the
CRAP Dunlops.
DOUBLE WOW!!!!
Now, I love this bike!!!!!
I am 5' 7" and it fits me like a glove with stock handlebars and floorboards.
It handles very well with no bottoming out.
It is quiet and does not kill my ears or piss off the neighbors.
I cruises all day long at 70-75 MPH and gets 60+ Miles per Canadian Gallon of gas.
Even at 70 MPH it has enough passing power to feel safe when needed.
I will do a bit over 100 MPH but it loves 70-75 at under 3000 RPM.
What else do I need????
Just my opinion and overall opinion . . .
for less than half the price of a new Fatboy . . . I have exactly what I always wanted.
I agree with everything but to go back to stock exhaust? Gross
You make up for your lack of stature with an extremely long post, well done!
Very nice
I don't like that new headlight that is butt ugly. I like to look of the old ones I have a 98.
I like the 2021 model lots of crome 114in looks good with 2 tone paint.
Have a 03 Fatboy so I'm partial to old school.
had a 2007 for 12 years, all good and cool but sold it 2019 and bought an e-glide. Missed my fatboy and just bought a new 2022 model. Find it more comfortable and more fun. Still have the e-glide 😬
I like almost everything about my 07 except the floorboards. They push my legs back to much and I can't ride very far without hurting.
Old one looks way better
It does have that OG Harley feel to it for sure
I have a 2018 fat boy 107, i have owned 11 other harleys, all twin cam on dynas and electra glides the M* is my favorite loads of low end torque and mechanically quiter than twin cams.. I like mine...
2002 or earlier fatboy is the best in my opinion for looks.
Plus the 1999 to 2002's have Timken crank bearings.
I own a 99 fatboy.....Best styling and sound!!!!
What about the handling in the curves…the new frame is supposed to handle better?
I was in Tallahassee, FL. Not too many real twisties in Leon County to give you a good diea
love the new look 👀
Just got my 2020 Fat Boy 114 two weeks ago, straightaway went stage 4 131 on it and internals all S&S with the Kerker Bootlegger 2into1 exhaust and done 'n upped the rear wheel to a 260 instead of the 240 it came with. Absolutely in love with the bike. Nothing compares. real comfy and when necessary packs a serious punch. surprisingly also handles quite well.
Thank you for vdo
love my 96 evo for life
I like the old school look and design, currently at the stage of what to choose between a early model Fatboy or a later model with the milwaukee 8 engine that has more grunt, especially on the long hauls of 12 hours or more. Or do i go with a softtail. The full fenders is what attracts me, especially if your riding in wet weather most of the time. I think that what puts me off the latest FatBoy, color choice is minimal.
I prefer the front lamp of the old Fatboy.. My Fatboy is fitted with the Nacelle so it looks bulkier from Head to toe.
Old school bike is the bomb.That new bike doesn't even look like a Fatboy.Habe fun with that m8 and all of its issues.Ride safe.
I own a 1999 Fatboy,last year of the production evo.I don't get all of this vibration I always hear about and it's as smooth a ride as you could hope for.Runs like brand new.I love it, it's what a motorcycle is supposed to be.
As the Owner of a 2012 Fatboy Lo, the first yr it got bumped to a 103 ci, 6 speed tranny and I widened from to accommodate a 200 mm rear tire that I special ordered because my dealer did not have even one of. Understand I don’t ride a Fatboy because I can’t afford an Ultra ! I ride a Fatboy because it’s the most beautiful Harley Davidson ever made and it was always my favorite period. This totally changed bike is far closer to the VRod that got killed off, Ironically the Fatboy was killed off as well, only they kept the name and logo. But when I walk around this new bike, it feels more like a VRod, not a Fatboy. The fact that we are even having this conversation don’t vote well for the new VRod, I mean Fatboy, my bad , or rather HD’s Bad.
Love the 18...the front looks so much better!! Infact l.would now think about owning the fatboy, its now a great looking bike.
I have a 2015 fb lo. Plenty of pep in it. I would like to ride the m8.
I love the M8s! But my twin cam still has my heart. Thanks for watching!
In my opinion, both bikes look great and represent the eras in which they were made. I just wish Harley still offered the newer M8 FB in a blacked-out version like the Fat Boy S. Once they throw the 117 in the FB I will trade my FLSS in.
I hope someone can help me...
SO many positive as negative comments I heard and now I just don't know what to think.
Is this engine very reliable? It's a great lookin' bike, a dream, but for that price the last think you want to know is that oyu didn't bought a bullet proof machine. I know that all motorcycles can have issues, but I think you understand my point. I only want to have that confidence of the engine between my legs and trust that will not have an issue in the mid of the road or a problematic engine you know? Just want that "for-life" spirit without big issues...
In other chapter, great video as always Mason, priceless quality and thank you for coming with all this information
Keep riding safe brothers
I would suggest you rent a new fatboy for the week and ride it like crazy, and form your own opinion
@@scotttracy9333 thanks for your suggestion
I like old school
The new one looks like the starship Enterprise with that head light. All wheel not much tire Old school definitely...
I’m not sure you know what the star ship enterprise looks like.
Why does the new one look smaller?
I love mine 2002 fatboy it’s a head turner
i love every Fatboy
The new model kill everything, it's pure beauty, defenitly a win for HD
The '18 doesn't have V&H Short Shots on it, they're just V&H slip-ons on the stock headers.
As to which looks better, the answer is neither. The original Evo Fat Boy is the winer.
Harley should have kept the big fenders and headlight.
New school....Yes i`m a boomer. But Harley must evolve...They did that well in 2018 with the Fatboy. Look at Harley throughout each decade.....There is always progression....and there is always the preowned market if you don`t like it.
I've always had Dynas, but I really don't like look of the new Harley's...none of them.
The old one look more beautiful then the new one
OLD ONE I LOVE IT
Twin Cam 103 sounds so much better than the M8.
I'm old. I admit it. The new "Fatboy" might be a good bike but it's not a Fatboy. LIke the new Chevy Blazer is not a Blazer and the new Bronco is not a Bronco... I like things the way they were - hahaha. I put 93,000 miles on an '05 Heritage Softail. I loved that bike. I only got rid of it to get an Ultra Limited so my wife would be more comfortable on our long trips. If I could afford another softail, it would be a carbureted Evo. It's not fast, but it's the ultimate nostalgic Harley style and sound.
Yep!
I have test ridden both and both ride awesome. I do agree the M8 has the torque and IMO 2018 had less vibration on the handle which was a big plus. I do like the older style rear fender better versus the bob look on the new model. At the end, I would buy the new model for the new technologies (keyless, automatic security, automatic turn signal off, digital display, LED, etc). Technology is there and I would like to take advantage of it
Hi,
These technologies (except the M8 of course) were already in use in 2011 (I own a 2011 Softail Blackline).
Ride safe.
When I was in high school, I always thought that Harley-Davidson manufactures only one model, which is the Fatboy. It’s the thing I’ve known about Harley bikes back then (except the vintage ones).
I prefer the old school esthetically
I Love the look of the 2018!!!
I like them both but I lean to the new 2018
New bikes are badass too but my 96' Fatboy turns heads like it's her job.
2021 with the shiny chrome is even better than the 18.
I just bought a 2013 Fat Boy. I prefer the classic one.
If Arnold approves the new model is ok to get one.
I’d agree with that!
I own the grand daddy…1990 Fatboy. Love it!
You didn't notice anything about the suspension? Are you kidding ? I've owned a 2017 (110) and now a 2021 (114) fat boy and I can tell you the suspension is better on the 2021. On the 2017 every bump on the road was felt, especially when riding two up, just ask my girlfriend. The engine in the 2021 is amazing and faster than the 2017. Also the heat coming from the engine is less on the 2021. The kick stand on the 2021 is shorter an feels like the bike is going to tip over. You feel the wind much more on 2021 than the 2017. Going above 80mph on the 2021 is very uncomfortable vs the 2017. I guess its because of the way the headlight sits. Overall I think the 2021 is a much better improvement over the 2017. Your review left out a lot
Hate that Headlight ?
I have a 2020 Fatboy, love the bike, but it is a local bike. Yes I do ride it across the country. Got windshield, cruise, bags etc.. but it is not a street or road glide.
What was it they called it ?
A boulevard cruiser.
Suits me fine as these day I can't go far ,have a sick wife.
But I can still walk in my garage and admire it.
I ride a 2002 Fatboy. I think that the newer Fatboy looks more menacing and it would be nice to upgrade to one with a 114 M8.
The Blue bike looks 30 years old while the Black bike looks very modern and very sharp. Glad they didn't go with Black wheels.
Ordered mine and it's waiting at home.
Congrats man!!!
I'm so jealous
Sorry but I love them both you can’t go wrong 👍😁
Notice you didn’t mention turning. I have an 01 and really fell in love with the new model (except the headlight, not a fan) until I actually rode the new one. My 01 corners like a gp sport bike compared to the new one. Fat back tire looks great, but destroyed it’s ability to corner. I’ll stick to my 01 thanks.
I have an 2018 FLFB and its a steamroller, as far as handling is concerned I traded in a 2007 FXD so yeah needless to say there was a little bit of a handling difference there was a learning curve so to speak but I found that once I picked a line on my softtail and rode it out it is a very capable handler now does it handle like my FXD did ? no two different animals but I have found a confidence on the Fatboy that belies it size and I think its inaccurate for you to say they have destroyed the bikes handling capabilities.
@@ckelley63 so you agreed with everything I said, but ended with I’m inaccurate???? Confused???
@@lonniedearing5799 No I did not go back and read my post I can't make you understand what I wrote
@@lonniedearing5799 No I did not go back and read my post I can't make you understand what I wrote
I have a 2021 Fat Boy 114 and tbh the bike handles amazing, you just have to own it and know how to use it.
Just got a 2018 and love it, not keen on the 2022 I think they have spoilt the look with the new wheels.
I wanted to write a comment, but there another video that i was going to watch first,
Ill be back.
The older one looks a lot better. The headlight housing looks like a riceburner trying to get "the look" but I bet the newer one runs like hell tho. :)
less high power music please/// my ears [and neighbours] i agree with pb the old school looks better, but the m8 is king, i have the low rider with the 107 and even though its new it just pulls away at low revs like its its been running for years, effortless, == yes i know there will be die hards out there who will vote twin cam = and no prob there they are fine, = i test rode a 2015 fatboy low back then and should have bought it, nevertheless the m8 is good progress, thanks for your time giving us something to watch.
Love the old-school Fatboy a lot better Justin opinion everybody likes different stuff
You 'le right Peter old schooo look better end good design
Old school all the way
My 94 Fatboy smoked one of these new modern day Fatboy turds. I'll take old any day over anything new as I can fix it myself without the aide of a computer or a technician to tell me what's wrong with it.
I like the new one also!