Toro Recycler Lawn Mower Won't Start - Troubleshooting Carburetor and Ignition Coil Spark
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- čas přidán 4. 07. 2024
- Was driving home and saw this one the side of the road with a sign that said free. Compression felt good, so I brought it home. Ended up being a lot wrong with it. Belt blade adapter, no spark, clogged carburetor, broken drive cable and more. Model 20016. Ignition Coil Part Number 34443D.
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I like the fact that the auto-generated captions call it an "emotion tube."
You can only do these things if you fully understand the functionings of these machines. And he certainly does.
Excellent presentation. Just an FYI, you can buy a new carb online for about $13 - for those who don’t want to swap one out. I’m thinking a lot of machines could be saved with some diy and CZcams instruction. Otherwise it’s not cost effective to have a shop do it.
Carb number please
These no readable number on mower
Came here to learn how to clean carbuator that is clogged, but stayed for the whole video :) I always enjoy your videos a lot, keep up the awesome work James!
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@@jcondon1 u can clean coil and get sparks.
@@jcondon1 where u got coil for $12?
@@jcondon1 how u r turning to check spark....i see...u r not pulling cord...
@@jcondon1 10:04 how u run it?...u cover it with finger?
Nice work James, you brought it back from the dead. Nice close ups on the carb overhaul. Thanks for another great video.
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Iv seen that scenario a dozen times and didn't know th answer to it. You learn somethin every day. LOL
Close ups of your carb work are really helpful. Good work.
You might try JB Weld for the broken mounting post. A big blob slathered all around and up and down will make a remarkably sound support that will last for years. Thanks for all the great videos, keep up the good work.
I have a Troy-Bilt Chpper Vac that I bought in 1994 and it is 29 years old now. Tried to start it for the first time in 23 years and gas is pouring from the carb. I just started to take it off and for some freak reason I came across a video of yours. After looking through some of your other videos I found this one and your mower here has the same carburetor as mine. After watching this I now feel like I can take mine apart and clean it and hopefully it will start. Anyway long story short, I want to thank you for your videos and look forward to watching more. Also I am retired and I am considering working on small engines for a hobby.
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I’m pretty new to your channel. I very much enjoy all aspects of your videos. Your visuals are superbly done and God has blest you with an extremely soothing voice which is very pleasant and easy to listen to. Also I REALLY appreciate you not adding annoying background music which IMO is just noise. Very well done! Thank you! Have a blest week.
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Thanks for the tips. Digging into mine today.
I wish you would have let me see that mower sling the grass for the whole yard. It really seems to run and cut great. Awesome Vid!!
Great video, excellent camera work! I have the same machine, Craftsman flavor, paid the same price. I think my carb issue was due to tipping the mower on the carb side instead of dipstick side. I found the carb removal was easier by just unbolting the intake manifold. Thanks!
Good diagnostic analysis of what happened to the mower prior to fixing it
Thanks James for the good info !
Great job! I bought two of these mowers when they were new back in early 2000’s and they still run great, only sold them recently when I got a Timemaster. Those Tecumseh LV195EA engines were very durable, I like the pressurized lube system Tecumseh always used on their vertical engines instead of a splash wheel. I need a bunch of those tiny “O” rings for Tecumseh carbs! 🙂
Couldn´t agree more, those Tecumseh engines Toro used were great and I can´t understand why so many "mechanics" don´t like them (maybe they aren´t much of a mechanic...) Toro sold the same mower model with a B&S Quantum, which wasn´t bad, but I prefer the Tecumseh version by miles!
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Thanks for the informations step by step . THANKS again.
your the man james like your vids alot seen your other vid on how you repaired 2 generators great!
Great video nice work thank for sharing very helpful
James, something else that I've noticed is, head bolts, check torque! You'll be surprised.
great job James!
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Bring that jet up one or two sizes, really runs well!
Just fixed my 20 dollar 6.5 thanks alot man cable causing it to ground out easy fix
Nice work, thank you!!
I had a mower that the coil was Rusty like that. I had to take it off, clean it and sand the posts it mounted to. Once I got them shiny, i put the coil back on and it fired up.
Nice job. My tip is of you clean out the carb, clean out the fuel tank also so you don't just run old gas into a clean carb.
Yes, I agree. It's also good to clean out the fuel tank because grass clippings or other debris could be at the bottom of the fuel tank and re-clog the newly cleaned carburetor.
This was a great help to me Thanks
Very good video, thanks.
BTW: Rust-Oleum “Regal Red” is the PERFECT match for both of your Toro mowers and it’s only 6 bucks a can at any hardware store (vs $12 or more for the factory stuff).
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Pulled one of these out of the trash several days ago. It has a Briggs Quantum engine and with al little help from Amazon and 20 bucks it works great. I wanted to fix the carb but the bowl gasket was pinched and the cost of a gasket kit made the new carb a better and easier fix.
Though I wasn't sure why you didn't use your spark tester on the installed plug, I picked up many good tips/techniques from you here. thanks
excellent work friend! A+
Great inf on how to fix the Toro lawn mover I would not have suspected ignition coil was bad. After replacing coil, it work like new lawn mover. Thanks
Great Job !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great information. Thanks James for sharing your knowledge.
Nice video. Thanks
Very useful thanks
Best video ever!
Great job
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Again, nice job explaining and diagnosing the problems! May I ask what solution you use in the ultrasound cleaner and how often do you need to change it, and or filter it?
Thanks for the videos!
Bll Ence I use the Harbor Freight heavy duty degreaser. I change it every time, but probably not necessary.
Very good video
Very nice 🙂
Couple extra 1/8" holes in the exhaust, makes it run better...
I'm back here again and just playing catch-up, just to be sure. My Sweetie wants a hand mower that she can start and since I don't want to pay through the snoot for a battery mower that has a limited run time, no matter what's advertised, one of the 1st hand freebie mowers I got is an old flathead Troy-bilt with electric start. That's what's on the docket. I got it running a few years ago but the kids have had it in storage all this time and I'm giving it the royal-ish treatment so it'll be reliable for her IF I get laid up again (good old Army). I'm waiting on a battery and charger and have wire brushed and painted the underside of the deck and oiled up all the cables. I'll probably check the grease in the gearbox just to see if. This was a good fix when I watched it the 1st time and the mower sure cuts fine. I had this one starting on the 2nd pull but no interest in the electric...........till now. So thanks again, watch out for the go-carts and BLESSINGS!
Man that had quite a few problems. You could have made four separate videos. Excellent!
Nice video
I bought one of those about ten years ago and still use it. It has the “one pull” start feature which turned into 10 pulls but it was an easy fix, remove and clean the large jet in the bottom of the carburetor. Don’t let the mower set with gas in it for long periods of time(ethanol or non ethanol). Only repairs have been brake and drive cables and drive belt. All are easily done and there are videos on here to show how to do them.
hi james good to see you saved another one mate,thats means you have two mowers now ,you can let your son used the old one then
You need a yellow spark tester, it’s really handy, check it out and cost about 70 bucks, tells you high or low voltage and bad or good 😊😊
Sweet👍
People are warned about storing gas in the mower or a can all of the time. But, some gas stations are really bad about water in the gas and too much ethanol.
Nice 😊🍀
Put some metal self tapping screws crisscross all the way around them from bald tires for traction 😎
Does the linkage rod from the carb go to the top hole and spring rod to the bottom or visa versa??
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Great video!! Question....When you replace the cable for the self propel, do you ever repack the grease in the transmission. Seems like a good time to do it.
I would have assumed the carb was dirty, and removed/cleaned it when I had the shroud off to replace the coil. Wouldn’t have cost anything, and saved a BUNCH of time!
Great video. If you flipped it, I hope you made a decent profit.
I was hoping you would have measure the olms on the new magneto
I could visualize as I watched things unfold filthy carb lead to surge , lead to annoyance, lead to jam a longer idle screw to lock the throttle lead to stretched governor spring . Many don’t understand that governor thingamabob.
Carriage bolt to mount drive cover threaded all the so so a stop nut can be installed directly underneath. Then another nut to stop from being loose on the deck.
Wow this guy knows his stuff, I did notice a bit of shakiness in his hands though. I'm 80yo but I do not have any of that. I don't know if anything can be done with it but he's a LOT younger than I am. Well maybe he was just having a bad hair day. About 2k ohm on that coil, huh? I did not know that. Great presentation.
Clean da magnets!
Going to check my cable. I've replaced the carburetor, spark plug, coil pack, cleaned the head and nothing starts it. I have an old craftsman that's just like this but it doesn't have the wheel on top. Was gonna give up on it but I'll try the other things I saw u do. It ran fine and one day when I pulled the recoil it hung, pulled the front end up, snatched out of my hand and banged down. I unplugged the spark plug and reached under and moved the blade to loosen it. Going to look at the cable. Couldn't really see how you could tell it was bad. I don't have a spark plug tester but I've tried 2 or 3 spark plugs I ordered for this model on Amazon. Oh I replaced the fuel line and air filter too. Thanks for the video. Any suggestions would be appreciated. I cleaned the original carburetor then just bought a new one. Will look at the spring.
Didn't disconnect the spark plug wire, rule #1, when in doubt, read rule #1 again.
Safety first!
Curious - you do so much detail on the carb rebuild, but I don't think I have seen you remove/change out the carb float needle valve gasket. I used to shoot these across the shop with a blast of compressed air. Had to remove these before a carb boil-out or they turned into a plastic mess with the old power solvents used. Always set the new gasket with a flat pin punch used to set the gasket.
The harbor freight degreaser I use in the ultrasonic usually plays nice with rubber/plastic. Bit it does shrink then sometimes. I usually remove what Comes off with tearing and leave the rest.
Check the timming crank on it to.. It's another plastic cam inside of it to most likely.,or could have sherd the flywheel keyway key.as Also known as split it into. The blade might be to be straighten out again. I'd just replace it myself if you've never done it.,or if it's to far gone to try that procedure on the blade.
What is the red tubing coming out of the carb that the air filter covers up?
I have a 91 Toro Recycler. Quite a bit different than the newer ones. It quit on me the other day, and I suspected the carburetor. Only took an afternoon to get it off, cleaned, and installed. Works great now. What cleaner do you use in your ultrasonic? I haven't found one I like yet.
I user Harbor Freight Super Heavy Duty Degreaser
I have a lawn mower with the exact same carburetor and engine. Mine is a 2006 Lawnboy. How can I find the gaskets? They really need to be changed on mine. Thanks. Great video.
The Dumb S. That owned it hit a big rock or something similar and that moved the blade adapter out of the slot on the blade holder.
I was waiting for you to show the ohms reading on the new coil... And, when you popped that carb bowl you commented on water in there but didn't say anything about all that debris that was sloshing around in there.
I bought a Sears mower that looks exactly like the Toro you have. I ordered a new blade, front tires, drive belt and new cables. I’m waiting on the drive cable which is back ordered. I wonder if you have the model number so I can get the cable from Toro?
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My rule - I never cannibalizes a good tuning piece of equipment to get a non running piece of equipment running, because it doubles the amount of work needed and often forces me to replace both parts with new parts.
Hello ! Where i can buy the drill stand from # 69 to # 89 ? Very good miniset ! Thank you !
Okay the it's possible to do that in A bench vise.& use A ballpin hammer to for better results.& outcome on the blade locking safety gaurdplate for the bottom through bolt for the crankshaft journal bolt hole.
Yup yup, got da same one.
KeyWay also! All it takes is just a dent, and throws the timing off.
Does the exhaust and air filter need to be on to try starting? I am still diagnosing mine after a carb clean and it’s “exhausting” to keep reassembling
Those Tecumseh carburetors are a pain in the neck to remove.
Where did you get the spring and other hardware for Toro carburetor?
hello i replaced the carb bowl nut jet on my toro mower it wont run but the bowl from a after market carb works but leaks gas but the bowl is deeper and the ring on top is different made
james were do you get the o rings in a bag of 25?
Okay, my neighbor's mower- same thing. He doesn't think it's the magneto, but I think it is... we shall see!!!
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where do you get parts?
Excellent trouble shooting.1/7/2022
Really good work, better than I do. James, I've just happened to install side disposal cover on my Toro Recycler and it took me a few min to do that because I've just squeeze the spring to position the metal bracket flat against the mower body and caught it with the first bolt from under the lawn mower body and than screw the second bolt. My mower may be newer as the holes in the bracket are threaded. And why do you always use a torque wrench while assembling? I mean to tighten correctly the cylinder head you need it but air filter bolts...?
I have cracked a few plastic carburetor spacers and air boxes even with the torque wrench. I agree not needed for that, but more people give me a hard time if I don't use it.
I just bought one just like yours come with no gas and little bit of oil, I did oil change, new carburetor, new spark plug, new ignition coil, new recoil started, new filter.
Still won’t start.
Hope you reply
hey james god movie you making. can ai ask for link to that vire gageset you are using ? with
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I was doing a overhaul on my Toro lawn mower, new blade, oil, air filter, drive belt, etc. Had the blade off and finished with other stuff and tried starting without blade on. Mower didn't start. Checked spark, fuel, etc and Nothing! Put the blade on mower started on first pull. I'm assuming it added more resistance with the blade on. So don't waste your time trying to start your mower without the blade. Lol
The flywheel on lawn mowers are undersized. The blade is required to add more weight to keep the momentum going.
There's the problem its a Tecumseh, ppl never look after engines, so those are more prone to needing regular carb cleanings.
What solution did you use in the ultrasonic cleaner. I have one but really never used it, but after seeing what yours did I may try next repair.
I use Harbor Freight Super Heavy Duty degreaser. It works pretty well and fairly safe for the carburetor and the ultrasonic. The only issue I have had is that the rubber gasket/o-rings sometimes shrink a little. I try to remove them before putting in the ultrasonic when possible.
@@jcondon1 Thank you, I will give it a try.
8:44 - where do you put the drill to test that? Also name of spark tester?
What a terrible … what? …. design? Who’s fubar is this, toro or Briggs? And btw, great video. You show everything perfectly and explain all the important stuff. Will be subscribing :)
It ain't a Briggs
I have 3 of these
Have u ever thought about going full time in small engine/Generator repair. I think u would do great at it far as making $$$
Goid job repairing this Toro. Parts cost $60 to $70 bucks, not including new front drive wheels (those are bald). Go to sell it for $125 or so, and there is $30 to $50 bucks profit (not including labor. Just making a cost point on buy/repair/sell. Not knocking you personally one bit.
He needs broken machines. Videos would be pretty boring otherwise and he would get no views. That is where he makes his money. Ship them in and ship them out every week. Gotta have something broken to film.
That is a Tecumseh engine and they went out of business in 2003.
hello, where can i find this drill stand carburetor cleaning wires please ?
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Put an adjustable needle back in!
What tool did you use to pull the emulsion tube out with. Thanks
That was actually a torch tip cleaner.
@@jcondon1 I used to have one years ago will have to get another. Thanks