The Most CONTROVERSIAL Season Opener EVER? - Doctor Who: Space Babies (2024) REVIEW

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  • @MrTARDIS
    @MrTARDIS  Před 17 dny +37

    I'm experimenting with the format of these reviews to try and help with Copyright and Content ID Claims, so please let me know your thoughts and feedback on this review AND 'Space Babies'! Comments really help in the CZcams algorithms!

    • @througtonsheirs_doctorwhol5914
      @througtonsheirs_doctorwhol5914 Před 17 dny +3

      the care Ncuti shows for the Bogeyman (booger Man, was already taken with a copyright :P ) it shows a continuation from the Capaldi story with the T-Rex and his pain when it was killed. Or the story of Matt Smith with the kind of tre-insect aliens couple who were haunting a place and the doctor built a machine to solve the situation. Also : those quirky creatures any Doctor would defend as not disposable for being lifeforms unique and dying.

    • @HishamA.N_Comicbroe
      @HishamA.N_Comicbroe Před 15 dny

      @@througtonsheirs_doctorwhol5914 True!

  • @FunkyFrick
    @FunkyFrick Před 11 dny +7

    "The sky's gone woke!" had be giggling like an idiot

  • @DuelaDent52
    @DuelaDent52 Před 17 dny +25

    I don’t know, I appreciate the commentary and the Bogeyman was really cool, but it feels more like a Sarah Jane Adventures episode without any of the charm and the dialogue was super clunky and forced to catch any new people up... but in trying so hard it just ends up making it even more impenetrable. And man, some of those poor babies look terrified.

  • @DriverHenryWho3245
    @DriverHenryWho3245 Před 17 dny +20

    When the Doctor said he'd never met a monster made of bogeys before, I went "not another person forgetting Sleep No More 😭"

    • @andrewbowman4611
      @andrewbowman4611 Před 17 dny +7

      They weren't made out of bogeys, though. There were made out of sleep dust. Different thing.

    • @DriverHenryWho3245
      @DriverHenryWho3245 Před 17 dny

      @@andrewbowman4611 eh, close enough. Still both made out of mucous.

    • @andrewbowman4611
      @andrewbowman4611 Před 17 dny +2

      @@DriverHenryWho3245 Not really. I mean, sleep does contain mucus, but it's mostly dead skin cells.

    • @llewelynshingler2173
      @llewelynshingler2173 Před 17 dny +3

      Though it's a little less jarring here as this whole scenario is played for insanity, while Sleep no More was played for horror

    • @DriverHenryWho3245
      @DriverHenryWho3245 Před 16 dny

      @@andrewbowman4611 ye, that is true.

  • @lewiscarrol6193
    @lewiscarrol6193 Před 17 dny +21

    I don't agree that this episode was a good litmus test for whether you like DW or not. I've been a fan since NuWho launch and I didn't really like this one or the Devil's Chord.
    Didn't hate them, there was just nothing for me.

  • @timeandrelativedimen
    @timeandrelativedimen Před 17 dny +49

    It was so so bizarre and I was constantly asking “what the fuck” but I will say, anything with cleverly interwoven subtext will always get a thumbs up from me. The whole “no one growing up wrong” represented so many people who are neurodivergent/lgbtq+ etc. But also there was a commentary on governments insisting babies be born then doing nothing to support or help them which was so well done

    • @TheLegitAlpha
      @TheLegitAlpha Před 17 dny +4

      Now that you mention it, it feels quite clever they snuck it in.

    • @quantumvideoscz2052
      @quantumvideoscz2052 Před 15 dny

      "cleverly interwoven subtext"... Please, read more books. Of at least somewhat respectable quality. Aka not glorified fanfics.

    • @quantumvideoscz2052
      @quantumvideoscz2052 Před 15 dny

      @@timeandrelativedimen Of books? LOTR comes to mind. ASOIAF is also up there, though it IS longer than most series'. To round up the fantasy recommendations, let's go with The Witcher (8 books in total).
      From the more classic ones (books and short stories), depends on what topics you like. Off the top of my head: Pride and Prejudice, Brave New World, Those Who Walk Away From Omelas, Huckleberry Finn, Fahrenheit 451 etc.
      I also recommend movies and TV, namely older Star Trek - movies 2 and 6 especially, and TNG.

    • @timeandrelativedimen
      @timeandrelativedimen Před 15 dny

      @@quantumvideoscz2052 Oh LOTR, what a classic! Probably my favourite book series of all time! A Song of Ice and Fire nearly surpassed it because my god that dialogue and I really appreciated Martin’s treatment of female characters as being real 3D characters. Just need the rest of the series to be published…..😭😭I haven’t read the Witcher books yet, I just finished the Eragon series and I want to go back to single novels for a bit to break them up, but you bet that the Witcher is on the list. As for classics, I’ve read all the ones you’ve mentioned except for Fahrenheit, I’ll say that Emma is better than Pride and Prejudice in my opinion but I’d never say anything bad against Austen’s writing. To add to those I’ve also recently read Catcher in the Rye which was so surprisingly good, 1984, Handmaid’s Tale and have just started reading Sophie’s World.
      By the sounds of it we’ve the same taste in books 😁 I totally recommend Ken Follet’s Fall of Giants. There’s a whole series called The Century, you’ll love it if you like big epics. It’s not fantasy but it’s a brilliant fictional story preceding and featuring WW1 and has as many characters as ASOIAF

    • @davidbarr9343
      @davidbarr9343 Před 14 dny

      😂😂😂

  • @OtimuPrimo
    @OtimuPrimo Před 17 dny +15

    If this episode was my first-ever experience with DW, I probably would've not returned for more. As you pointed out, "The Church On Ruby Road" already covered most of what this episode was trying to do and in a much better way. SB wasn't the worst thing ever but it was the weakest first episode of a modern doctor IMO (It felt like watching someone playing with a puzzle except that only 1/3 of it was built right and the rest was scattered around). A very 6/10 to me at least.

  • @bladersmosh
    @bladersmosh Před 17 dny +20

    While Space Babies isn’t everyone’s cup of tea, I had a good time with it and I was laughing multiple times throughout especially the Nanny censoring. The standout is Ncuti and Millie’s. Those two have immediate chemistry and Ncuti is one of those actors who you can’t help but smile with joy and hilarity whenever he appears. There are even times where a saw a bit of Eric too. I wonder if the moment when he almost say s**t was the moment he got told off for.

    • @InternetDarling
      @InternetDarling Před 17 dny

      The passing comment he made telling Ruby to tell her mum not to slap him was pretty funny as well.

  • @lucashampton6269
    @lucashampton6269 Před 17 dny +51

    I thought it was weird but fun. I am very squeamish about bodily fluids so the monster in this episode nearly made me puke, but the Doctor risking himself to save it is the most Doctor thing to ever do.

    • @dylanotto949
      @dylanotto949 Před 17 dny +2

      It COULD have been. However there was not a lot of context given in the story as to why he saved them. All RTD had to do was have the Doctor realize the monster was only scaring, not killing. Instead RTD brings back the "last one of my species" from the 9th - 11th and it's infuriating. I thought 15th was suppose to be a completely clean slate who got the therapy needed to fully move on.

    • @HishamA.N_Comicbroe
      @HishamA.N_Comicbroe Před 17 dny

      Yeah I really liked that.

    • @HishamA.N_Comicbroe
      @HishamA.N_Comicbroe Před 17 dny +3

      @@dylanotto949 It wasn't related to his trauma at all. He just realized that it another creature, that like him, was the only one like that. That just gave him more reason to save it. Just my thoughts.

    • @ethantucker92838
      @ethantucker92838 Před 17 dny +2

      ​@@dylanotto949 even if you deal with trauma through therapy, the memory and how it changed you doesn't go away 💀
      To me at least, its more of a principle thing, it seems more like a genuine decision rather than just a reaction stemming from PTSD or something

  • @carolstott5337
    @carolstott5337 Před 17 dny +68

    A Doctor Who episode? At this time of day, at this time of year, confided entirely within my kitchen?

  • @selmaunsley6683
    @selmaunsley6683 Před 17 dny +9

    I’m probably 200 years too old for this one I’m sure toddlers and younger love it

  • @darynvoss7883
    @darynvoss7883 Před 17 dny +9

    Fun fact, there were no butterflies per se 150 million years ago. I suppose it might have been a Kalligrammatid.

    • @llewelynshingler2173
      @llewelynshingler2173 Před 17 dny +2

      Also, that is a mistake the original Butterfly Effect story made

    • @arubinojr5670
      @arubinojr5670 Před 17 dny +3

      The Toymaker, or perhaps The Rani, put it there as a test.

    • @idle_speculation
      @idle_speculation Před 16 dny +1

      There have been lepidopterans since almost the very beginning of the Jurassic, so it's entirely possible that Ruby stepped on some kind of never-discovered day moth.

  • @emperorholocron8278
    @emperorholocron8278 Před 17 dny +22

    So I had 2 main criticisms. I get there’s a reduced episode count and that means the development and plot has to be rushed along but Russell rushing Fifteen and Ruby’s friendship with the early Tardis Key and 6 month time skip kind of skips them gaining each other’s trust and getting to know each other. They’re just instant besties.
    The other is that Russell has leant too far into the silliness aspect of the show that Ncuti (after 4 episodes) hasn’t had an “I am The Doctor” moment yet? Like it hasn’t let Ncuti flex his acting muscles the same way Matt or David did?

  • @thatkidoverthere682
    @thatkidoverthere682 Před 17 dny +15

    Also in End of the World, Rose points out that the Tardis translation "getting inside her head" was a violation because it was nonconsensual

  • @lasseehrenreich5502
    @lasseehrenreich5502 Před 17 dny +42

    I like the episode but it was a bit too fast passed which ended up confusing me but I did really love the line "nobody is grown up wrong" especially as someone who has autism and was bullied for it

  • @josephwarne1785
    @josephwarne1785 Před 17 dny +8

    The Dick and Dom reference at 13:24 made me very happy

  • @stephencartwright8355
    @stephencartwright8355 Před 17 dny +7

    My worry is any new fans watch this or the church on ruby road and have a negative impression like me and turn off. For me both episodes I was cringing when the goblins or the talking babies appeared.

  • @dmaxwell910901
    @dmaxwell910901 Před 17 dny +23

    I just hope we get some darker stories this season, like with series 1.
    I'm kind of hoping for a shift, akin to series 1, where the first half is more silly and lighthearted whilst the later half is more dark. A finale with a tone similar to Parting of the Ways would be awesome and would allow Ncuti to show off his acting even more.

    • @Jacx_DoctorWho
      @Jacx_DoctorWho Před 17 dny +1

      Agreed

    • @connorwood9211
      @connorwood9211 Před 17 dny +3

      Series 1 was pretty dark from the start is you ask me. End of the World killed off most the cast at the end. Pretty brutally. Literally see a woman burn to death.

    • @lorettamoulpied5293
      @lorettamoulpied5293 Před 16 dny

      Sensible stories would be nice, before Ncuti leaves to save his career.

  • @DDArtsArts
    @DDArtsArts Před 16 dny +4

    I do not feel or believe any emotion in the recent episodes, those cut backs to the 2005 episodes really hits it home. They feel a bit more like cartoon characters now

  • @artemusmusic
    @artemusmusic Před 17 dny +20

    Doctor Who works best when you just go along for the ride. Quality can be determined in the context of a whole season once the story has been told imo. Just happy to have more Who to look Forward to

    • @davidblyth6886
      @davidblyth6886 Před 17 dny +2

      Dont complain about product, just enjoy and get excited for next product. You people are too scared you'll lose who to the axe if you critique it. Cattle.

    • @chazo1367
      @chazo1367 Před 17 dny +8

      @@davidblyth6886 says the sheep who follows along the lines of those who say shit like that. No original thoughts of your own. Shame really.

    • @connorwood9211
      @connorwood9211 Před 17 dny +1

      Rather go with quality over quantity

    • @bluntdevourer1776
      @bluntdevourer1776 Před 17 dny +1

      @@davidblyth6886 ragebait is dead bud

    • @Dalekzilla54
      @Dalekzilla54 Před 16 dny +1

      @@davidblyth6886 And I bet your feed is full of rage-bait half-excuses for videos for you to lap up like a good little follower.

  • @jackcox6276
    @jackcox6276 Před 17 dny +20

    I find it baffling the flack Chibnall got and then an episode this terrible gets a free pass because it's RTD

    • @vishaansingh1019
      @vishaansingh1019 Před 17 dny +4

      Mr Tardis has been going to bat for RTD and Ncuti for literal years at this point, so it's a bit hard to back down from that.

    • @NicoleM_radiantbaby
      @NicoleM_radiantbaby Před 17 dny +1

      @jackcox6276 -- AGREED!

  • @dylanotto949
    @dylanotto949 Před 17 dny +8

    Pros
    - The intent of the story that RTD was going for was a very positive message that I support. I do wish that instead of the fart joke at the end we got more closure in regards to the government/planet being punished to leave the babies to die.
    - Ncuti and Millie are great dramatic actors. Comedy...hit or miss. Thats dependent on the writing though, not them.
    - The music was better than Jodie's season
    - I'm actually fine with the TARDIS key scene. It at least establishes Ncuti's Doctor as way more trusting.
    Cons
    - The comedy. Idk if i could handle another Series 1 + 2 kind of kid show comedy with grossout humor
    - RTD could have made a better explanation as to why the Doctor saved the boogeyman besides repeating Series 1-4 again.
    - This is NOT a season opener episode. This felt like a more mid season episode. Usually with openers you want it to be something really easy to follow or really scary and Space Babies was neither due to the fast pace editing.

    • @Benlovescheese
      @Benlovescheese Před 17 dny +1

      That's fair enough I did like the ending but everything else felt a bit rushed story and pacing wise.

    • @dylanotto949
      @dylanotto949 Před 17 dny

      Forgot to add this to pros. The one attention to detail I loved was the fact that Ruby would have accidentally brought the TARDIS to the day the Daleks invaded earth if she didn't add a 5th digit. It explains the Doctor's excitement and rewards the returning audience who pay attention to details.

    • @sp0ngeb00b7
      @sp0ngeb00b7 Před 14 dny

      @@dylanotto949just for reassurance, Ncuti can do fantastic work with comedy if you’ve never seen his work on Sex Education. I think this really is just down to the writing, bodily fluid/toilet humour isn’t my thing either, but he does genuinely have great comedic timing and can absolutely deliver funny as hell lines, super naturally.

  • @bladersmosh
    @bladersmosh Před 17 dny +31

    I met Russell at a masterclass at the school of journalism which was a great experience and I asked him about the possibility of future autistic representation in Doctor Who and he said that it is coming but always visible as some audiences would expect. When Captain Poppy asks The Doctor about being grown up wrong and he comforts her, I perceive that as how some neurodivergent people first see themselves as mentally different or unsure about themselves when they are first diagnosed and how the might struggle to fit in and socialise in the public. Maybe I’m overthinking it, but as an autistic person and if this one form of neurodiverse representation Russell is slowly giving us for the show, I’d say it’s a step in the right direction.
    Anyone agree or anything that I might’ve missed?

    • @DriverHenryWho3245
      @DriverHenryWho3245 Před 16 dny

      I hope we get some good neurodivergent representation in this new era of Doctor Who 🤞 it's really overlooked in media in general, and for a show with a (in my opinion) very ND-coded main character and a lot of ND fans (including me) who resonate with the show, it's just too fitting.

  • @kbg12ila
    @kbg12ila Před 14 dny +2

    I mean I feel like almost every season of NuWho has started its seasons with more lighthearted and wacky episodes. Rose, End of the World, New Earth, Smith and Jones, Partners in Crime, Eleventh Hour, Deep Breath, Smile etc...

  • @jamesbaxter1667
    @jamesbaxter1667 Před 17 dny +2

    Disney+ has the church on ruby road as episode 1, space babies as episode 2, the devil's cord as episode 3

  • @user-or3oe4cq6m
    @user-or3oe4cq6m Před 10 dny +1

    There's a scurrilous rumour going around that the ratings are terminal 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @victorpeterson3502
    @victorpeterson3502 Před 17 dny +4

    I think my biggest problem with this episode is like someone else here on CZcams said, that the Doctor and Ruby is talking down to the babies, using silly voices and treating them like...well...babies. I know that they literally ARE babies, but, like that CZcamsr said, I think they feel more grown up because they can talk.

  • @pinga.
    @pinga. Před 17 dny +32

    2:23 “The sky’s gone woke!”

  • @fimbles4211
    @fimbles4211 Před 17 dny +3

    Thanks for pointing out Susan Twist, I'm VERY faceblind and didn't notice

  • @TVperson1
    @TVperson1 Před 14 dny +2

    I think RTD is going an 'Matrix 4' and went "I' don't really wanna do this, but I want the money"

    • @MrTARDIS
      @MrTARDIS  Před 14 dny

      He's getting paid by the BBC to write the series. He's not making a lot of money from this.

    • @TVperson1
      @TVperson1 Před 14 dny +2

      @@MrTARDIS Well, whatever the reason, his Heart's not in it like it was in the 2005-09 run.

  • @sebastienmccarthy1483
    @sebastienmccarthy1483 Před 17 dny +3

    I hated Space Babies. It was giving Love and Monsters. That being said, really liked The Devil’s Chord.

  • @SegaNintendoGuy64
    @SegaNintendoGuy64 Před 17 dny +6

    I strongly disagree on those who hate this episode, I just think it's a nice fun episode, I mean I know it's not a great episode and this feels silly, But I couldn't care on what they say. It's enjoyable enough that's it The End.

  • @iancran
    @iancran Před 17 dny +5

    Watched your channel for years… sorry, but to say this episode is a litmus test as to whether you enjoy Doctor Who or not is ridiculous. This episode was not indicative of what we’ve come to expect. RTD is around my age, and, like me, is a lifelong fan - since Saturday, I’ve said to friends and family that, I cannot understand why he didn’t write an episode - for, in part, a potential new audience - that was more Doctor Who in tone than this one!

    • @davidblyth6886
      @davidblyth6886 Před 17 dny +1

      Tribe is part of the system, it's his job to take the shows side for perks

    • @pious83
      @pious83 Před 16 dny

      That's not what was said. This is the litmus test for the _new_ series. This series is starting with a lighter tone than it previously has. It's an acquired taste.

    • @iancran
      @iancran Před 16 dny

      @@pious83 See from 23:03 - he then references the whole 60 years of Doctor Who if you didn’t like this episode, which baffled me tbh.

    • @pious83
      @pious83 Před 16 dny

      @@iancran No, he references what he does _for a living._

  • @Jacx_DoctorWho
    @Jacx_DoctorWho Před 17 dny +4

    I didn't like Space Babies too much, the Devil's Chord was okay but felt a bit rushed, especially the writing. I do look forward to Boom though, I hope Steven Moffat nails this one :)

  • @Toracube
    @Toracube Před 16 dny +3

    The viewing figures are tanking…

    • @MrTARDIS
      @MrTARDIS  Před 16 dny +1

      We don't even have the figures yet...

  • @thunderboomer8726
    @thunderboomer8726 Před 17 dny +4

    Why weren’t the babies 6 years old?

    • @DuelaDent52
      @DuelaDent52 Před 17 dny

      I think it had something to do with how the baby machine grew them, right?

  • @shmikex
    @shmikex Před 4 dny

    The treatment of the Boogeyman reminded me of the Crooked Man. Initially the Doctor is scared of it but in the end realizes it's truly doing no harm.
    You could argue that since the Boogeyman does not try to escape to upstairs, it is benevolent.

  • @jimibaboza
    @jimibaboza Před 17 dny +4

    9:20 I interpreted his grimice at going to 2150 cos of the Dalek invasion.

  • @user-il5od4lh9o
    @user-il5od4lh9o Před 17 dny +2

    Did you catch the figure in black standing on top of the outcrop when The Doctor saved the butterfly?

    • @93MANIAC
      @93MANIAC Před 17 dny +1

      I'm pretty sure that it was just a tree

  • @jimibaboza
    @jimibaboza Před 17 dny +1

    whats that hitchikers guide thing in the background? A steelbook?

  • @coldacre
    @coldacre Před 16 dny +4

    it wasnt so much controversial as it was bloody boring.

  • @DYLANWALSHDREHER
    @DYLANWALSHDREHER Před 13 dny +1

    I see the flaws but personally really enjoyed it for what it is.
    The scribbles and drawings on the walls of the space station was a nice touch I thought.

  • @benbastianiartmusic1421
    @benbastianiartmusic1421 Před 17 dny +17

    I am a little fatigued with watching Doctor Who and feeling like a lot of the content belongs in a Comic Relief special - I felt that more than ever with Space Babies and The Devil's Chord.

    • @lanceuppercut3498
      @lanceuppercut3498 Před 17 dny +1

      Space Babies with a snot monster sounds like it should of been a episode of Red Dwarf then Doctor Who. I mean there 4th series had a Curryman and this was just as ludicrous, unfortunately it appeared on a episode of Doctor Who!!!! WTF. Yes sad when seems more of a parody seen on Comic Relief.

  • @Schming
    @Schming Před 15 dny

    Always enjoy your reviews Will, and im usually happy to wait for them because the standard is so high, but if the new format helps you get them out quicker, even better! "Lets talk tone" might be one of my favourite "junctions" of yours yet lol

  • @daisyprayers
    @daisyprayers Před 16 dny

    This new format is great! Wonderful video as always. I really appreciate the perspective you bring on behind-the-scenes things as someone who works in the industry. Keep up the great work :)

  • @sarahlouise6574
    @sarahlouise6574 Před 15 dny

    Excellent review, looking forward to the rest of the season and your thoughts 💖

  • @golden_gloo
    @golden_gloo Před 17 dny +2

    I think Millie Gibson's overacting is intentional trying to present her as the stereotypical companion function, super inquisitive and human. I feel like Russel's setting up for the reveal that the Doctor and Ruby are actually in a show and that's the reason they're drumming things like this up as well as a plethora of many other reasons.

  • @TheMuppetDon
    @TheMuppetDon Před 17 dny +1

    great vid and review, loved this episode

  • @KaylMacLaren
    @KaylMacLaren Před 17 dny +1

    I don't disagree about the Cliff's Notes approach in the beginning of the episode; I really feel like that was a primer for new Disney viewers to quickly "catch up", rather than be intended for actual character development. There are a number of story beats across Space Babies (and The Devil's Chord) that mimic older scenes with different companions from the show (Rose and Sarah Jane specifically, possibly others). The real question is: who is the person in the background at around 11:48 in Space Babies? Bad camera angle that caught a crewperson, or something that will be revealed later?

  • @micron000
    @micron000 Před 14 dny

    Amazing review as always, Mr TARDIS! I've waited until I had the time to give it my full attention, and you did not disappoint. Loved everything about it, from the well thought out tie-ins with politically relevant / BTS production info, to the small jokes in-between (Though, why did you write that Ncuti looks good in tight shirts? Maybe cause it's just a fact haha). And of course, as always, I found myself agreeing with most if not all of your actual points.
    The way you've explained the issue with the exposition and how it differed from those same beats in 2005's S01, was exactly what I've been trying to explain all week, and you've done it in such a perfectly concise way. It's not just the abundance of exposition overall that bothered me, but the fact that these moments lacked the same emotional depth and character-building connotations that they've had before. They felt more like throwaway lines, which is disappointing when they had the potential to build something real between the Doctor and Ruby. Instead, all we got is empty exposition and teasers for the Ruby-related mystery. I love their dynamic and chemistry as actors, but as far as the characters were concerned it just felt like they're BFFs already, and we've missed their entire getting-to-know-each-other phase.. A fact which was only made worse imo, by the unnecessary time jump in the Devil's Chord.
    As far as @10:28 is concerned, we also had Bill who was an orphan living with a foster mum, but you're right, it was never delved into too much, other than the mentions of her missing/not remembering her mum or wondering what she might have been like. That being said, I do feel like the theme of found-family is a much more prominent theme than in just the 60's. I mean, even if you just look at NuWho - we've had strong family dynamics in RTD1 where the Doctor was repeatedly "brought in" to be involved with the companion's family; then we had the Ponds with River and the Doctor being a sort of family for 11/12, we've had the Fam which like it or not was set up to be sort of like 13's version of found-family, and we've even had Nobles in the 60th taking 14 in (him literally referring to Rose as his niece since Donna is almost like a sister to him). I agree these weren't all perfect, but still, I think that the chosen-family themes have always been strong in DW, even before the Timeless Child. I'd even go as far as to say that it's a big part of what makes the show so strongly queer in it's core, and I'm very happy RTD chose to take it on and dive even deeper into it with 15.
    I 100% agree with you about the Bogeyman resolution as well. As much as I love the idea of the Doctor having compassion for any type of creature, this felt like a great place for Ruby to show some actual character and stand up to the Doctor, or at least question him about why he felt like it was worth risking his life to save a creature who was shown and established to be nothing but a monster instilling fear into people. And this was made even worse imo by the fact that we had no actual solution for it either. I mean, as soon as the Doctor decided to save it, there was no discussion about what to do with it next - Is the Bogeyman suddenly not a threat anymore? Is he going to live as a refugee as well? How is that going to work..? I mean, as soon as they land on the planet, I expect people there will fear and either shun/turn him away, or try to kill it. It would have made much more sense if the Doctor found it a vacant planet to live on, like he'd done with similar monsters in the past (style Hide or Time heist iirc), or at least, come with the babies in order to explain and make sure that everything turns out alright. Besides, just because he provided a "thrust" for them, they're still on a space station that has no navigation capabilities.. I feel like they're obviously simply going to crash into the planet, if they even reach it at all. I seriously feel like the Doctor should have just taken them in the TARDIS, or even use the TARDIS to drag and safely land their station.. It would have been much safer and made a whole lot more sense, but instead it seems to me like RTD once again rushed the resolution and/or decided to discard it in favour of a (not even funny) "farting space station" joke.
    And yeah, very weird choice of a season opener. I have no problem with it not being serious, DW has always been pretty silly as you've said, but it's also quite serious at times which we hadn't really seen in the current era yet. Plus, the back-to-back baby centric episodes, as well as the long string of weird/fantastic villains, just feels like it might be a bit much for new fans. I'm very much looking forward to Boom (and perhaps 73 Yards as well), which seems to be on the more serious/grounded side.. I just hope that new viewers will keep watching up until that point, so that they can see the other side of the show as well.

  • @kevin10001
    @kevin10001 Před 17 dny +2

    To me having the episode almost do an almost exact recreation of ruby entering the tardis does make space babies feel like a part 2 of ruby road since they are in the exact same outfits from ruby road like no time has passed for them even though for us viewers it’s been 5 months since the special aired even though I enjoyed the episode it felt like a season opener akin to new earth and partners in crime that felt like it didn’t need to establish the companion like those season openers cause roes was established in season one and Donna was established in the runaway bride even though at the time she was meant to be a one off character originally also they leaned into the toilet humor a but much in my opinion

  • @russelltietjen4407
    @russelltietjen4407 Před 17 dny

    Absolutely love this new style of review! Easily your funniest video and good to see your face outside of the streams :D

  • @MrEtherlord
    @MrEtherlord Před 17 dny +1

    The creature was created to scare babies, but where did the idea that it planned to eat them came from? Except being scary I don't think it was physically dangerous.

  • @mathieuleader8601
    @mathieuleader8601 Před 17 dny +3

    I think Eric is going to come back as Lennie or Lenny Rush's character the one on the segway

  • @hartnellsghost
    @hartnellsghost Před 15 dny +1

    Thanks or another interesting review William, & I think your tweaked format works.
    One issue I disagree with you is where you said that Ruby Sunday was "recruited" by The Doctor.
    IMO, in Ruby Road the teenage Ruby character was stalked, then groomed by an older character calling himself The Doctor, & then for no apparent reason goes off with him. Similar to ongoing UK news stories which you will be aware of.
    Therefore, I dispute that Ruby was recruited. Similar stalking story in Eve If The Daleks, where you also skirted round the problematic resolution of why the woman went off on holiday with her creepy stalker.
    Best wishes William, but can you try & be more honest with what we actually see & hear on-screen?

  • @Benlovescheese
    @Benlovescheese Před 17 dny +3

    I wasn't a fan of this one at all if I'm honest, it's just that pacing and storyline revolving around weird space babies that I just don't like. as well as the tone being all over the place from my perspective.

  • @DalekWindmill
    @DalekWindmill Před 17 dny +2

    Time and the Rani is definitely more controversial.

  • @terrorotv
    @terrorotv Před 17 dny

    Great video, I nearly agree with everything you said, but when you talked about the phone scene. tbh it could have been better, but in my opinion the doctor handled the situation like someone that was in this situation before. I also want to add, that I think you can't compare Rubys and Roses emotions in their respective phone scenes. Yes Ruby asks if her mother is dead, but I think this is rather a matter of fact question instead of real concern. Also if you factor in her reaction when she hears her moms voice and also after she hangs up, you can see her pure excitement and that there wasn't a real fear behind it.

  • @jackturnerfilmmaker4124
    @jackturnerfilmmaker4124 Před 17 dny +1

    Love this review!!

  • @CarysCantDance
    @CarysCantDance Před 17 dny +1

    Tiniest nitpick: The Good Place would fall under the multi camera sitcom category, not the drama category (I love that show).
    Also I appreciated you including the part where you mention how attractive Ncuti Gatwa is. I mean, you were just saying what we were all thinking. Even Tom Baker swooned when he saw a photo of him, and complimented his “marvellous cheekbones”.

  • @chaserseven2886
    @chaserseven2886 Před 17 dny +4

    Every time I see Eric I get angrier and I don’t know why

    • @iancran
      @iancran Před 17 dny

      God, I was the same 😆

  • @golden_gloo
    @golden_gloo Před 17 dny

    Mel even, I remember RTD saying in the 60th commentary for the Giggle that he thinks Mel's parents were killed by cybermen. There's another link in the lost parenthood theme.

  • @lbricks7631
    @lbricks7631 Před 16 dny +1

    Watch the BBC and Disney BOTH try to claim this now.

  • @galesito1733
    @galesito1733 Před 16 dny +2

    I thought it was rubbish. I would have said the worst thing ever, but then I watched the following episode.

    • @pious83
      @pious83 Před 16 dny

      Lol New to Doctor Who, eh??

    • @galesito1733
      @galesito1733 Před 16 dny +1

      @@pious83 Yeah, I've only been watching since 1974.

    • @pious83
      @pious83 Před 16 dny

      @@galesito1733 Ok...

  • @williamwebster9437
    @williamwebster9437 Před 17 dny +2

    I actually enjoyed this. I found it cute/scary/silly and fun. I think it's a great start for me.

  • @Worldoffanboy0278
    @Worldoffanboy0278 Před 17 dny +3

    In my opinion the space babies was okay but devils chord is better my opinion

  • @EthanDJC
    @EthanDJC Před 17 dny +1

    woah man i can't believe they got sarah jane's son to be a snotologist

  • @ihateunicorns867
    @ihateunicorns867 Před 17 dny +1

    Great review.

  • @jasonpaulbaker1
    @jasonpaulbaker1 Před 17 dny +2

    Space babies almost works, but personally i think it needed a rewrite, either have them as young kids say 6-8 year olds, or I like council of geeks idea of a headband that talks for them (like in “Pixar’s up”) it’s a fairly standard adventure, with good moments and highlights, almost ruined by a poor effect and a poorly executed, though interesting concept. I don’t hate it, but it’s hard not to like either 😂
    6/10

  • @shmikex
    @shmikex Před 4 dny

    The Space Babies set up was bad. So the babies grow knowledge but they don't age, and they don't mature either? They can run a station, but don't understand weapons? It could have worked if the controls on the station effectively did nothing because "NAN-E" disabled it and has been actually running it from her room, and the bridge was effectively providing the babies an illusion of control. Or maybe have the babies effectively adults in intelligence and maturity, but their bodies are still stuck as babies.
    Also, I hated the uncanny valley of the babies' mouth. If you're going to have them talk, have it be psychically or have them make baby noises and add subtitles. This could have worked based on the "I speak baby" way back from 11 and because of the TARDIS's translation abilities, Ruby understands baby too.

  • @rob-890
    @rob-890 Před 15 dny

    Imagine being soo far out of your damn tree

  • @shmikex
    @shmikex Před 4 dny

    I wish you had mentioned the butterfly effect and how it was poorly executed after 60 years of time travel and changing histories.

  • @bigbadbaron8416
    @bigbadbaron8416 Před 17 dny +12

    How anyone could defend this crap is crazy

  • @CJFS00s
    @CJFS00s Před 17 dny +2

    ( 13:23 ) Please can you review Da Bungalow one day! 😂

  • @silverdaleks1
    @silverdaleks1 Před 17 dny +1

    LoL nice Dick and Dom reference

  • @lcoyle1998
    @lcoyle1998 Před 17 dny +3

    For me personally, the joint worst episode since 2005 (equally bad as Orphan 55). Both feel like a Season 24 throwback and I have no idea why you'd ever do that...

  • @Luvcatz88
    @Luvcatz88 Před 17 dny

    This format was great 🥹💗

  • @jrcoyle
    @jrcoyle Před 12 dny

    I enjoyed this DW episode much more than I thought I would. Guess I judged the “book” by its title. Sure, it had faults, but the episode flew by and made me smile.
    As for your updated review style, it works for me. I just enjoy hearing your insights. Your reviews always make me think, which is what I want in a review. I don’t need clips as much because my understanding is that these aren’t mere summaries to take the place of watching the episodes….they are analysis and opinion.
    Thanks for all you do!

  • @baggin.
    @baggin. Před 17 dny

    Wonder how long the daleks will be on a break

  • @leejones8582
    @leejones8582 Před 16 dny +1

    Look Doctor Who's talking

  • @hobbythebear5337
    @hobbythebear5337 Před 17 dny

    Fifteen being more open and making sure the same mistakes that happened with those like Martha and looking after Ruby is what I get from the explanations and the phone scene. The exposition mostly felt organic to me I dunno. The questions and answers were logical

  • @CallMeCrazyCallMePoor

    A great review, but one of those times when the review was better than the episode. I'm really glad that Boom came out the week after this, because I was getting worried I was getting to excited for this series. The show still has the ability to switch gears from one night to the next.

  • @Pony-Potential
    @Pony-Potential Před 17 dny +1

    Who knew being in my late 20s was my useby date for the show. I couldn't get on board. I LOVED the performances, the sets, the Bogie man...but it just wore me down. I've become such a serious and dark writer that these light hearted things seem too...offputting to me. Shame really. Oh by the way @MrTARDIS if you see this (the At function foesnt work anymore so...ergh) i gave you a shout out on my other channel. You really did lift me out of those darker circles of the DW fandom and my newly released Dalek animation may have come out a lot worse if at all if it weren't for you. So thank you.

  • @DiamandaHagan
    @DiamandaHagan Před 17 dny +1

    Disney is handling international distribution, unless you're Irish lol. We're special.

  • @minetoki
    @minetoki Před 17 dny +1

    Controversial? Compared with "Asylum of the Daleks" or "The Magician's Apprentice?"
    Nah, it's not the best, but it is just fine.
    Also, it is just the matter of time that trolls figure out how to use the Internet, and we just have to bear it.

  • @friendlyotaku9525
    @friendlyotaku9525 Před 17 dny +2

    Am I the only one who thought the baby who played Poppy was really impressive with her acting? Especially for someone that young! I think if she ever decides to take up acting as a profession when she grows up she has a really bright future ahead of her!
    Also the Nan-E filter was so funny, easily my favourite recurring gag in the episode!
    Overall I enjoyed this episode, not the best opener but not the worst either. A solid start!

  • @booradley8895
    @booradley8895 Před 17 dny +1

    Red Dwarf want their episode back

  • @emilioalberto6967
    @emilioalberto6967 Před 17 dny +1

    It's British Baby Geniuses! LOL

  • @rob-890
    @rob-890 Před 15 dny +2

    0:55 complete and utter bullshit

    • @ontos8914
      @ontos8914 Před 15 dny

      Buddy the country is fucked rn

  • @mowogfpv7582
    @mowogfpv7582 Před 15 dny

    Surely no international viewer who decides to give this new doctor who show a go on Disney is going to start with the one-off christmas special from 5 months ago? How is that special even listed on Disney?

  • @Stephen-Fox
    @Stephen-Fox Před 17 dny

    Distinctly British wordplay, yes, but it simultainiously would also work if RTD was American, since apparently Americans call the Bogeyman the Boogieman while calling Bogeys Boogers which is something I have learnt from discussions about this episode? (Like, some Americans were thrown by the fact it was being called the Bogeyman rather than the Boogieman)
    I think the audience (and especially the babies) rooting for the Bogeyman at the end does actually play into the message you considered might be in the episode but lost in the shuffle, not necessarily for Doctor Who specifically but generally - A bit of darkness inside children's stories is good, scary elements (and difficult to deal with emotions) are good to introduce to children via the safe medium of fiction, and - most notably for the ending - that children enjoy being scared, and so forth.
    Side note on 'not just horror' - Take the show my PfP is from the title card of. I genuinely think that show, and how it exposed me as a child to death, giving me the opportunity to practice grief, helped me when a classmate died when I was around 10. The danger of making children's media too _safe_ is that we don't let them practice difficult emotions in a safe way. For all we joke about the likes of Watership Down traumatizing a generation of kids in the 70s and The Animals of Farthing Wood doing so in the 90s, or however hard I doubletaked during CITV's Old Skool Weekend and seeing it casually mentioned that the younger Riddler was being raised by her uncle because her parents died in a fire, I do think that having children's media that are open about difficulty topics such as death is important. And sometimes that's by having an 8 foot canary deal with the death of a neighbour who's actor passed away in the real world, and other times it's by depicting infant fieldmice getting impaled on a thorn bush while their mother helplessly weeps and their father tries, but fails, to console her (though the "Don't curl up" scene with the hedgehogs left more of an impression in my childhood brain)

  • @DavidHHH99
    @DavidHHH99 Před 15 dny

    I've got to interrupt my viewing to give a shout out to the hilarious Peri/Brian Blessed joke!

  • @jensablefur155
    @jensablefur155 Před 14 dny

    You'd think they would have learned from the more childish tonal shift in season 24. Not feeling this at all I'm afraid.

  • @mirawest8510
    @mirawest8510 Před 17 dny

    I thought the Bogeyman design being so scary really made the themes land harder. The real antagonist of the episode was a lack of empathy. The babies were kept alive because of a lack of empathy, the Bogeyman was created accidentally by a soulless computer algorithm rather than intentionally by a human with empathy, Nan-E wouldn't show she's a human to the babies because she was scared of her empathy. The Doctor empathising with something that justifiably terrified him, and showing us the process of how he's able to do it, was what made that episode really work for me

  • @alfje5492
    @alfje5492 Před 17 dny +1

    A bit dissapointed with this way too silly info-dump of an episode, thank the Gods that the second episode is so much better!
    It looks quite good though and the double-act of Doctor and Ruby is strong, so I'm looking forward to more, fabulous adventures!
    Also, +1 for the Fist of the North Star reference in your review!

  • @SashaRicky
    @SashaRicky Před 17 dny

    I preferred the original clouds in the title sequence as well. The updated new title sequence is so out of sync as well. 😢

  • @benhol1683
    @benhol1683 Před 17 dny +1

    Nah that clara bit had me laughing so much

  • @stark_harshly
    @stark_harshly Před 17 dny +1

    It was wonderfully sweet. I love it.

  • @LiamDalley-jd1kc
    @LiamDalley-jd1kc Před 17 dny

    Honestly I did enjoy it. I really like that it was fun but also kinda Spooky but still keeps it family friendly with its scares but the titular Space Babies were a bit too bizarre especially the CGI mouths and the low brow humour, it’s still an very solid start

  • @DylanTT17
    @DylanTT17 Před 14 dny

    9:14 and how good he looks in tight shirts 😂