Should You Buy a Toyota GR86? Here's What Actually Changed From Old to New
Vložit
- čas přidán 28. 06. 2024
- A Toyota Master Diagnostic Technician Reviews the 2022 Toyota GR86 to see what exactly changed and improved from the previous generation.
In this video we take a look at the second generation GR86. We do a side by side comparison with the original Scion FRS starting with an in depth technical review with exact changes and details you might have not seen before.
Then we take a look at the exterior changes and interior changes to see if the changes are good or not.
TCCN Automotive Inc.
Toyota and Lexus Specialist Repair
Visit www.tccnautomotive.com to schedule your appointment today.
Check out the second channel :
/ @thecarcarenutreviews
Recommended Tools:
Basic Scan Tool amzn.to/3Jm6aom
Very good DIY Scan Tool amzn.to/3zF7dvH
Advanced Scan tool amzn.to/3q3L3QQ
Spill Free Coolant Replacement Funnel amzn.to/3uJfKxm
Sun roof drain cleaning tool amzn.to/3GMDlQ9
Good DIY Torque Wrench 1/2" amzn.to/3gE9bnw
Wireless Apple CarPlay for Toyota\Lexus amzn.to/3uKElSo
Very Good Triple Camera Borescope amzn.to/3MrgFs0
*as an Amazon associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.
Follow the channel on Social Media :
/ thecarcarenut
/ thecarcarenut
Check out the channel Merch store
/ @thecarcarenut
Support the channel on Patreon:
/ thecarcarenut
Make a one time donation to the channel:
www.paypal.me/CCNdonate
Check out the amazon store:
www.amazon.com/shop/thecarcarenut
*as an Amazon associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.
#thecarcarenut #tccnautomotive #toyota #toyotagr86
0:00 Intro
0:42 Technical Review
13:24 Under Car Tour
19:52 Exterior Review
26:46 Interior Review
33:41 Should You Buy One? - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Is because of this type of content that I subscribe to mechanics rather than entertaining CZcams car channels. 5star content 💪👍👍
Agree. Got tired of the fake one with his wife and kids doing overhaul work.
Couldn't agree more 👏
ABC- I concur ❤
You are so right.
Check out savage geese. They are VERY familiar with these. And do a great job
Another brilliant episode, from one of the best channels around. Period. I love this car, not only for what it stands for, but how they updated this model. Many thanks for the excellent review. I've now got to go take a real look at one. :-)
wow wow wow. I work for Toyota & have to say, this is one of the best reviews and walk throughs I’ve seen for the GR86.
Thank you for taking the time to really dig deep into the mechanics of this new generation. It’s great to see a true appreciation for the small details instead of the big channels that get the same information for a quick glance or google search.
Totally agree...best review I have seen on the 86. Like the explanation on the mechanical changes made. Great great review.
I haven’t watched the video yet but did they mention the excessive rtv issue?
@@jasonm.1370 No, they didn't mentioned any of your issues.
Decision to buy these cars will be much harder without reviews like this. Specially mechanical part from a Toyota experienced mechanic. Thank you 👍
@speedcar99 and your mechanical reviews are my best favorite
Glad to hear a professional doesn't consider the GR86 "slow."
225 hp in a RWD 2800-lb coupe is not "slow."
Drove me crazy when reviewers dogged on the first-gen's power. Not everything is a drag car! Some of us like to enjoy corners more than straight line speed.
My Honda fit has just over 100 hp and it slays in the corners. I would never consider it "slow." I feel the same about Miatas.
What's funny is how many totaled stock frs you'll see. Seems to have more power than most can handle. Lol
its very slow i traded it in for a v8 after 8 months lol
@@libertyprime2852 maybe for drag. I guarantee you can't handle it at full blast on a track.
Love your content brother, it’s great to hear from an educated mechanic that knows how to communicate in real life terminology. As a veteran Service Writer for Honda I greatly appreciate your knowledge. Keep up the great work!
The production quality is getting even better, thanks for putting out videos like these!
Wow! This was the most informative and detailed video I've seen about the GR86. You did an amazing job of covering the specific differences from old to new! I learned a lot. Thanks so much!!
I absolutely love the deep technical reviews on the channel. Glad you go over valuable content versus all the others that have superficial reviews that offer nothing new.
This is the first video I have seen of yours. It was so thorough and had information that absolutely no one else has provided. You earned a new subscriber.
Absolutely unbiased technical review on a car that I most wanted. Thank you for the great work.
This is becoming my favorite CZcams car channel, you always learn new stuff!
These are my absolute favourite videos!
I prefer the instrument cluster in the old 86 than the digital cluster in the new one.
As a owner of a gr86 for the past half year , you’ve educated me on things I thought I would’ve known already! Great video.
This channel just keeps getting better. Very high quality contents.
Good, honest technical review. No hype. Thank you.
“Your not the Hero we deserve but the Hero we needed!”
My racing mechanics mod book is full!
Thank U Car Care Nuts Man!
😁👍
This is the kind of car review that I want when I'm looking at a new car. Thank you! Love this channel, always a thumbs up!
I really like the way you do the in depth interesting video between the 2 cars. ❤
Finally, the Toyobaru that everybody have been expecting from AMD.
Stellar .. excellent camerawork as well - 37 mins well spent.
Finally, a side-by-side direct comparison everybody who wants one wants to see.
Yes i am a car enthusiast i love his content and have a great respect for Toyota engineering. I bought my wife a used 2019 LX570 after researching it and watching his reviews.
Great info on oiling fixes. Went through two engines in my BRZ on track days.
Also good to know Im not crazy about the MT issues.
there's some other changes on the synchros that arent mentionned from what i can see. 2nd gear has a better synchro but probably not noticed, the synchros were updated from the 13-14 year frs/brz later, and the factory fluid used to kinda suck ass and people had better shifting with other oils. he compares it alot to the first years which is fine since my 18+ honestly doesnt have much changed. but an example is the ECU placement on the engine changed as well on the 17+
I'm a GR86 owner. I love it. Thanks for all the great content. Btw, the fuel door is modeled after a headlight cover from the Toyota 2000GT. little Easter egg for ya :) May the Lord bless you and keep you as well, sir.
I asked for this content from you and you definitely delivered 🤙🏽🤙🏽
This guy knows his stuff like none other technical reviewer. Who better to talk the real talk then an actual mechanic who's worked on all sorts of engines. Great work big fan.
A great overall description of this car and where this car performs at it's best.
Ive always liked the looks of this new model.
the best detailed review I have watched
You have the best video of the GR86. Like the GR86 looks really good in this video.
you are the best person to explain all these details. keep it up!
Love this channel. Can't get enough of your videos sirre. Wish you great success
AMD digs deep, a quality, extensive review. The backseats are perfect for the in-laws.
Great to see your feelings about this car. I personally am glad the manual lacks the OTT safety features. Pitty about the gearbox issues, because otherwise its pretty good.
My biggest grip is the new indicator stalk... drives me absolutely insane.
Lets be honest though, this is the next best thing to a Cayman 4.0 for the everyday person.
Fantastic as always.
Please bring back likes and dislikes of the car. They were my favorite parts of your previous videos.
I’ve been watching your channel for awhile and I love where your going with it, stunning quality videos thank you! Being a Toyota enthusiast I am always looking forward to the next video :)
Top noch technical review!! Congrats!!
I've owned a 2018 86GT for about a year and a half. Bought it for a daily driver to augment my 2003 Tundra I bought new and has been basically trouble free... I just wanted something newer to drive to work. I'm sixty years old and I LOVE my 86 (33mpg). It has just enough power to be a LOT of fun but won't get me into too much trouble. I do have an Open Flash tune in it and I may do headers eventually but that's down the road. I really like the second Gen GR86 but I just don't want to take on a longer car payment plus Kentucky's yearly tax on newer vehicles is criminal.
Excellent video - thanks. As for the manual, I definitely feel a difference (for the better) in my 2022 gr86 vs the 2013 or 2017 brz I owned. Better engagement and feel than the quite notchy gen 1 cars. As for durability, I’m only 4 months into ownership but I think the problems come from owners beating on the cars and not possessing the skill to drive quickly and avoid adrenaline causing needlessly hard shifting. Being smooth makes you faster.
As other reviewers have mentioned, the fundamental upshot of the bored out motor is that the “torque dip” of the old 2.0l model is all but eliminated. In real world driving, it makes this a much more enjoyable sports car to own.
Wonder if this thinner cylinder walls make for long term reliability concerns.
I also don’t have any problems triggering the armrest opening, but I agree that it could have been designed more intelligently.
Most importantly, I learned technical things about the generational comparison that no other content provider has shown me….thanks!
Such a great and informative video! Thank you Car Care Nut!
I really appreciate car content creators that are a no bias car reviewer and not making it seem they want to sell me the car they are reviewing.
Very nice to hear you talking of such a great Toyota for me ! I really would enjoy to hear you also talking of the MR spyder one of these days as I own one and also there is so many enthusiasts of Toyota sports cars everywhere in the world! Hello from France !
Thank you for the video. So well done, and you obviously know what you're talking about. Much appreciated for an enthusiast. I ordered a BRZ.
This is great AMD . Thanks for sharing
I love how well detailed and thorough you are! You go deep into the details! Down to the small ones. Actually that was my second Toyota car! When I heard that Toyota and Subaru where on a joining venture to produce a rear wheel drive back to basics sports car! I had to own one, mine was the first edition 2013 blue Scion FR-S. What a great little sport car that was, the car wasn’t a super fast car! But it was fast enough and it handled very well on the twistiest roads of willow springs road and country side Illinois. The only thing I couldn’t drive it during the winter months, way too dangerous for my taste! So the car sat in the garage parked during the winter. I only drove it in the summer and on nice dry sunny weather. So I used to drive my wife’s suv at the mean time, So when my wife had to start driving to north shore for her job, I had no choice but to trade my car for something I could drive in all weather. So I ended up trading it for a Jeep Wrangler. I really didn’t want to trade it! But had no choice. Boy now that I moved to Arizona I’m looking for a low mileage great condition one! But the prices for a great used one with low mileage are to the roof!! Great video my friend!👌😎👍
Another great video. Thanks!
Awesome review, prob my fav on CZcams
I 1st hand experienced this center console opening as I rest my arm to shift gears. I must say I am very surprised this center console design made it to production. Hopefully the next revision of the vehicle will asses this issue. Very annoying when you literally always keep opening/closing center console. :/
This is sadly one of the many reasons I won't consider buying this car over a GR Corolla anymore. Give us a practical center console lid or don't give us one at all like the GR Corolla.
That center console was designed soo poorly, you’re right, how did it make to production. I have a ‘23 on order and that cup holder is my biggest gripe.
I’ll probably put a fence of closed cell foam around it.
@@JediPeaceWalker I'll agree its annoying, but stop you buying the car? There literally nothing else like it for the money. Just jamb it shut or somthing. The GR Corolla is totally different proposition, its front a front biased AWD turbo hot hatch vs a NA rear drive low sports car. I really wonder sometimes.
You always make great videos!
Need a guy like this for more manufacturers.
The best channel for Toyota enthusiasts, please review that Camry in the background.
This was very informative and it's good to see the engineer's improved the engine.Though not a fan of plastics.
Best gr86 video so far!!!
best Toyota channel on CZcams. I have an allocation out for a 23 base Neptune manual. I cannot wait!
I love your videos Amd! Keep it up!
great review! Definitely wait to for the next year model to see what issues Toyota addresses.
The 2017 facelift of the 86 included some of the 'new' interior features he describes. Also, I heard no mention of the significantly increased fuel consumption, which is not merely a question of cost, it reduces the old car's 'adequate' range. But for sure, the GR has a much improved overtaking ability and is significantly more refined (less cabin noise and without odd extraneous noises).
@@twhalenI'm not convinced that the road noise is greater in the GR than the GT. It is certainly more noticeable because other noise sources have been damped out. No issues as yet with oil consumption, but I'll keep a closer eye on it now - thanks for the heads-up. As you say, the GT burned next to none.
I like the Scion look, especially the lights
As a Toyota tech…. I don’t care about the problems or annoyances it’s so beautiful I’m buying one lol
love this. Subscribed.
Solid video!!!!
Best GR86 review.
Good work
As always the best reviews. I feel this car is 95% what I want in a sports car in that price range.
Great video, as always AMD. When you talked about the differential, you said to change to oil and life is good😊 You reminded me that I’ve been meaning to ask about change intervals for differential oil. I’ve read recommendations that are all I’ve the place. Can you weigh in on that point? Gen 5 4Runner in my case, if model is important…
Best review of a new sports car!
99% of journalists will tell you that it went from a 2.0L to a 2.4L. But did you know
Wow, THIS is a useful and informative review! I appreciate the honesty and detailed analysis of the pros and cons to the design of this car. I wish it was a fully Toyota engineered and built car. I remember wanting one, especially after the raving reviews by the car mags when it was introduced. Glad I never got one although I’m sure it’s fine as a daily driver under normal use.
Have you heard of badge engineering? Toyota own a big chunk of Subaru and basically talked Subaru into building a sportscar they could put a Toyota badge on; at least Toyota engineers were involved..
@@petesmitt thank you, I just meant that the car would’ve been far better as a 100% Toyota engineered and built vehicle without the Subaru components. Toyota just wanted the Boxer engine to build the lower profile design. Unfortunately the engine has a less favorable reputation for longevity.
@@hawgbreath of course; but Toyota have form with getting other manufacturers to build cars for them, like the Supra, which is basically a BMW Z4 and built in Europe.
Many thanks for finally a GR86 review! Please do a Gen 1 technical review, when possible. I have a Cosworth Supercharger on my Gen 1. Considering the block is the same, can I move it across? I heard that the intake ports are different as the intake manifold has changed.
Finally a scion!!! Miss this brand cheap and sporty
I’d love to see an update on the GR86! Any common issues, changed impressions (if any), and updates into the 2023
I learned about the sealer on those Subaru boxers from a Sub owner. Couldn't believe it when I first saw that engine in a FRS.
This and the GR Yaris are probably the best sports cars you can buy right now. They are well engineered, a lot of fun and really not that expensive.
After owning a 350Z for 15 years, I'm ready for a replacement. This might just be it. Let's hope the RTV issue gets sorted out soon. Thank you for such a good video!
it has NOT been fixed yet. Look on CZcams for numerous videos on the gr86 after 1000 miles still picking up rtv and clogging the pick up screen
Had a 2014 BRZ for over 4 years and was a super fun car to drive. The only thing I didn't like about it was the infamous 'torque dip' in the midrange and the general lack of torque. Still yet to drive the new GR86/BRZ but the new motor looks vastly better on paper. Great review mate.
Loved my 13 brz.
The inside design is great. 👍🏾
Good videos!
Watching your videos, now changing my oil every 5000 miles on my A25A engine, add 2 bottles of injection cleaner every 5000 miles, and it sure makes a difference.
I took my track pads and rotors from my old FRS and put them on my GR86 - they're the same size as the last gen. This goes for front and rear.
Great video. I can fit my 4 track tires in the back seat and still fit all my tools, coolers and chair
Very nice job! Next in the series should be "Can you buy a GR86. . ." (5-6 month wait and some dealers charging "market adjustments")
I wish you would get some sort of sound meter and show just how quiet these vehicles really are as you drive them down the highway. Give us some sort of rating to go by. Thanks for another quality and informative video.
Thanks for your review and information
This is the best review I've seen so far!
I intend to buy this car soon !
it's very important to me.
I have a question
Won't the engine be weaker because they increased the piston ?
I mean now the sides of the cylinder are thinner
absolut beauty, sir you are superb too 👍
great content👍👍👍
Great video. Can I retro fit the sound tube in my GR86? I loved the intake howl of the old car.
Wonderful video. Thank you very much. I am curious about something more generally, you said direct injected engines don't have much vacuum? I'm trying to understand why that is. Can you explain one day?
Hi, I know you did a Supra video already, but would you be able to do another one for the '23 manual transmission please, and maybe long term engine issues/updates on previous videos re: B58?
Good video
came across this video by random. i don’t regret clicking off 💪
it's a mod to retro fit the forester turbo oil cooler on the old engine. both used similar engines and nearly all the parts fit.
Legit so excited for this video thanks to this man and I don't even own a vehicle. 😆
I read a article that said that Toyota was experimenting with putting a turbo charged 3 cylinder in the GR86. Sounds pretty cool.
Toyota have indeed fitted the GR Yaris / Corolla engine in to a few GR 86 but there not production prototypes, there just testbed vehicles for synthetic fuels & racing development.
I own a 2016 scion frs and everytime I take it out somebody asks me if I want to sell it. The frs looks nicer than the gr86 but that's just my opinion!
nice review, can we have a review on oil starvation?
Back reminds me of an Opel insignia, vauxhall insignia to our UK friends
AMD, what is your opinion about the RTV issues the GR 86s are experiencing? I just got my 2023 GR 86 and am thinking of having the oil pan dropped for a thorough inspection at the 1K break in oil change. I know I may be on the hook for the cost but am willing to absorb it for peace of mind. Will ask the dealership though if they'll cover it under waranty/goodwill claim if there IS RTV blockage of the oil pick up tube. Your thoughts?
You have a warranty s don't worry about it
Great video! I loved my 13 BRZ in dark grey metallic. It was the slowest and most fun vehicle I’ve ever owned. I bought it out of excitement that Toyota was dipping its toes into bringing a exciting vehicle back to the market. I went to a Toyota dealer and looked a a FRS w/o keyless and found the key to be in a poorly placed area with the ergo of the handbrake. So Knew I needed the keyless that the brz premium offered. Had a blast picking the car off of a car hauler with some wrapped brzs. Even had a infant and the small seats made have a baby in car easy because we just could reach back anytime my daughter needed anything. She also loved riding around in it and would fall asleep in the car all the time maybe because it’s so bumpy. Either way it was a great car and even made for a good car with an infant.
2013-2020 BRZ Premium doesn't have keyless entry and push-start. It has the same turn-key ignition as the FR-S. Only the BRZ Limited has keyless entry and push-start.
Thank you.