10 Tips to Help Beginners Learn the Nurburgring Nordschleife
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- čas přidán 28. 06. 2024
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Welcome to the intro to my beginner’s guide to learning to drive the Nurburgring Nordschleife. In this video series I’m going to be giving tips to help beginners or people who are struggling to learn the massive German racing circuit.
In this intro, I’m going to share 10 tips that will help you learn the Nürburgring Nordschleife. These are broad pointers that set you up for success, without burdening you with too much knowledge.
The beginner’s guide to how to drive the Nurburgring is continued in the following videos:
Part 1: Start to Hocheichen - • Beginner Guide to Lear...
Part 2: Quiddelbacher to Aremberg - • Beginner Guide to Lear...
Part 3: Fuchsrohre to Adenauer Forst - • Beginner Guide to Lear...
Part 4: Metzgesfeld to Kallenhard - • Beginner Guide to Lear...
Part 5: Spielgelkurve to Wehrseifen - • Beginner Guide to Lear...
Part 6: Breidscheid to Bergwerk - • Beginner Guide to Lear...
Part 7: Kesselchen to Caracciola Karussell - • Beginner Guide to Lear...
Part 8: Hohe Acht to Brunnchen - • Beginner Guide to Lear...
Part 9: Eiskurve to Kleines Karussell - • Beginner Guide to Lear...
Part 10: Galgenkopf to Finish - • Beginner Guide to Lear...
Part 11: Full Lap Breakdown - • Beginner Guide to Lear...
Part 12: Full Speed Lap with Commentary - • Beginner Guide to Lear...
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Whooo! Nordschleife. Good call, teaching it on PCars 2. It's the one I learned on. It allows you to break it down into 3 sectors and drill each one separately - putting it all together only when you're ready.
PC2 is certainly the version I have spent the most time on in the Ferrari 488 GT3 car. I can't honestly remember which version I learnt it on, but most of the time when I would jump into PC2 or AC, no matter what I had in mind to do before getting started, I would invariably end up on Nords in the Ferrari 488 GT3, pushing the limits .. well .. pushing my limits anyway. So satisfying.
Thanks for watching man!! And yes, some of the best times I’ve had at Nords have been in PC2. It’s not a great learning car, but the R89C around the Green Hell is pure magic
I realize I am quite off topic but do anyone know of a good site to watch new movies online ?
@Tobias Benson lately I have been using flixzone. You can find it by googling =)
@Tobias Benson I watch on Flixzone. Just google for it :)
Back in October I had no idea how to drive this track, now I'm sending it in the fog. It's so rewarding to learn, just don't give up and don't do half the track, do the FULL track, even if you crash like crazy.
64-67 I raced formula Vee's, juniors, and 175cc.- 250cc. motorcycles at the ring - 800+ laps. Now I sim -it. 3000+ laps on all titles. SO MY advice is 85% of the curbs are a no-no. Learn the bumps- use them to set the car. There are bumps to Avoid too. Laps + time. Drive it like a Grossmutter.(slow) feel the track/ chassis. Try 1 section on a challenge in pc3 in the snow to beat a bogie time. Book a flight and pay for laps with S. Schmidt.
Great video. The three sections can be tackled individually in project cars 2 and I found that it is much easier to remember each third by doing each one 10 times, then moving onto the next third.
Kevin Barber yup, great advice! Thanks for watching Kevin
I attempt with the Lotus 25 climax on project cars 2 1965 the combined around 25 km long max speed 235 km/h
Time was around 8min
English by a french without google traduction or google translate
Yesterday I ran a race with the Renault Megane Sport (?) and I completed two laps without any mistake/crash and I was so proud of myself 😁😁👍😃
I learned this when doing a hotlap challenge on Forza 7. That was last year right after Niki died. I think tip #11 is to make sure you drive it periodically so you don't forget it!
Jason Chamberlain good point!
I got 8 minutes on the ring on my first time on it still my best achievement
Learning the layout is one thing, learning the braking points and acceleration points are quite another, however, understanding why those points sit there (instead of where most would intuitively think they sit) is yet another thing. The rest then, is to train oneself to have the skills to deal with the track.
I first learned the Nordschleife in Forza Motorsport using a Panoz LMP-1 and the point to point races. The track was divided into 4 sections, and I ran each until I knew it like the back of my hand.
Forza 1 - 4 had an very inaccurate version of the track, so at most I had a rough idea of how other sims handled the Nordschleife. When FM5 introduced the scanned version, I was pretty familiar with the in's and out's so, I didnt feel I needed practice.
Fast forward to 2018 and after I built my first PC... Assetto Corsa's Nordschleife humbled the mess out of me. I had to re-learn the track again. But the car I used in FM1 was nowhere to be found (back in 2018). So I picked various cars and learned each.
I think I made every mistake Simracing604 said to avoid. I was attacking curbs, at 11/10ths at all times, and constantly trying to beat my best laps. Also if I had so much as an off, I restarted. After all that, all I learned is that, the frustration is real. LOL
Going to try and follow some of your tips. My ADD makes having patience for learning Nords a real challenge. I love lapping this track though. Going to have to keep at it, I guess,
Thanks for the tips!
Good to see I'm not alone in having my AD(H)D torpedoing learning complex tracks.
Great vid! Still remember the first lap I completed with out an off, iRacing mustang, was so happy
Really needed this one,my lap times are horrible. Thanks Mike
My pleasure man!! I hope this helps
Great tips - thanks!
I love this track its become my home turf haha, the length is my favourite part it makes it easier for me to keep the flow as opposed to shorter laps
What I always wished for is for a sim to do little "Gran Turismo-license"-style timed sections to repeat and learn over and over. Am sort of at the level where I can actually complete several laps without incident if I force myself to go at 7/10 pace, after two weeks (maybe 20h) of training in rfactor2 - so far, still a couple seconds off my target time, and probably having caused 10+ virtual deaths and tens to hundreds of millions in crash damages in the process. :D
On the other hand, perhaps our struggles as sim racers put the performance and abilities of the older actual drivers into perspective. Just an example, Mark Donohue had no experience with the Ring whatsoever before entering in the 1975 Grand Prix in his first Formula One season, never having driven there before in his career. Obviously, no way to practice back in those days other than actually driving, maybe a bit of onboard footage and a few german language "track guides" of dubious quality - so probably he knew in theory which direction the road went after each blind turn, but he certainly had nothing that could prepare him to get the bumps and compressions and kerbs right. He only first set foot on the track when arriving in Germany for the race and could only do a couple laps in his private Porsche before the race weekend - the car got stolen from the hotel carpark over night and was found completely demolished a few days after, so even this minimal crash-course training remained somewhat incomplete. During the race, he obviously didn't do exceptionally well, in fact he had a tire failure during the first lap - as did other entrants such as Jochen Maas, in his case the enormous compression through Fuchsröhre made the rims touch the ground and shred the rubber apart, which is probably - just guessing here - not quite what you want to experience when going 270kph through a section that had a runoff area of about half a car's width before impacting the wall (hey, at least not going straight into trees as they had until a couple years before).
Donohue's qualifying lap though was a 7:11, 190km/h average speed; just 14 seconds and 6km/h average speed slower than Niki Lauda at the pole doing the drive of his life. I'd say most sim-racers would take about 100 laps in a similar car to beat that from the comfort of their home, with no fear of death or injury, no possibility of mechanical problems in the back of their head.
By the way, that 7:11 time would have earned him a P6 qualifying the next year - but Donohue died a couple races later from a head injury in an accident; famously Niki Lauda, himself a very experienced Ring driver, suffered his near-fatal burns during next year's Nürburgring Grand Prix, which lead to the Ring getting removed from the Formula calender.
Thanks for the help
Thanks for I learn the nordschleife
Nice video! Got my accuforce V2 in and had a little time to mess around in Assetto Corsa Competizione with the cloud profile and holy shit does it feel awesome. As soon as the car loaded up on the pit, the engine started, and I felt it through the wheel I was blown away. I was turning the wheel back and forth and it felt like actual rubber tires scrubbing the asphalt. This thing makes the clubsport V2 I came from feel like a joke really! I was getting familiar with the different settings while I waited on it to arrive but the cloud setup was perfect and only one click. All I had to do was lower the strength in game a little.
If you're a complete beginner and playing on Assetto Corsa, I'd reccomend the Toyota GT86 or the TUNED toyota AE86, neither car is too powerful but both handle incredibly well and they're have really forgiving handling
The MX5 Cup is also nice for learning there.
Nice tips bro. I love choosing random cars and throwing them around the track. Even after years of driving it, i got about 3-5 corners i absolutely hate sometimes....that damn carousel being one lol
ProStreet Beet DHD me too!! Lol. It’s supposed to be this iconic, legendary corner, but I’ve grown to loath it thanks to binning so many cars at the carrousel
@@SimRacing604 lol. I knew it had to be someone out there that shared my pain...haha
The carousel is my favorite corner
@@untamablewolf some cars really hate it when im driving ha
This is a very good video, my mind is always stressed when driving on the Nords, and i never really improve myself on the track, this video just showed that my mindset all the time was wrong
i do have a question, is it fine to watch irl videos of the nurburgring to get a racing line or braking reference, or just the track in general?
Interesting to watch. Done a lot of laps over the years. Racing it often still leads to crashes (think pushing too hard) I Like slower cars better for racing on the Nordsleife. Gt4 or the super tourers in rfcator (fwd but a joy to drive) . My personal record still stands in Gt 5 or 6. Never reached it again.
Great advice. 👍
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching
I stayed up all night racing this on assetto corsa doing the Nordschliefe endurance and got a 13:11 on a BMW M3 E30
Hi there. Great advice! You mentioned the dangers of 'going light' at various places around the track. One thing I learned the hard way is that as you get progressively faster, new ones appear.... :D
Will you do an expert guide on nordschleife next ? Honestly for beginners, just keep driving it until they consistently not crash even once. I did that in rFactor 2, then tried it in project cars 2, it's ridiculously easier lol, I'm searching for expert sim guide now but can't find any. Obviously typical tips already apply, look as far as you can, look towards apex and exits, trail brake, always mindful of weight transfer etc
Nice tips ! You've got the playlist messed up with the different parts, it goes like : 1-2-3-5-6-4-7-8-9-10-11-12.
gt5 has a great guide for learning the track in sections
Fantastic, with what looks like a very helpful video, Mike........................ but what the heck is this thing called Nordschleife (never heard of it? ; ))))))))
P.S. But I'll promise to use this very helpful guide to learn this Nordschleife thing in my new favorite sim, fFactor 2
Anyone have a suggestion for a good car/time to shoot for? Nothing world shattering, but what time would be considered "pretty good" in a specific car?
Which sim has the best version of this track on the PC?
I learnt just driving there 100 times.
method 2 : keep trying to do a lap at 100% even if you crash at every turn untill you make one clean lap
Great suggestions, can be for any track I think.
Peter Stefani thanks so much!!!
I find driving with a bumper view much easier than cockpit or other view...I'm 2-3 seconds faster with bumper view. NOTE: I"m teaching myself how to drive sim racing, been trying for the past 2 weeks, am I doing it all wrong driving with a bumper view? Can you assist?
FLAVIO CADAMURO whatever works man! I prefer cockpit view for immersion purposes, but it limits the view. If you’re fast with bumper or chase cam, go for it!
@@SimRacing604 thank you my friend. Appreciate the honest reply. keep up the good work.
What car do you recommend for learning. Like a porsche gt3 r or?
GT3 or GT4 class cars would be a good learning tool, but probably not Porsche because of the unusual weight distribution
@@SimRacing604 Ok. Thank you man
@@SimRacing604 Porsche Cars are built for the Nürburgring/Nordschleife since decades. No wonder they are still among the best performers in 24hrs and Sprint races there under all conditions. BUT in order to get around the NS without crashing the car, you will need to learn the Porsche first ( no matter which type ). BEFORE you become fast on the NS ( or any other track ) you need tons of track knowledge. I suggest to start with a X-Bow or a GT4 car ( not Porsche ). Also any of the TCR & WTCR cars or the BMW M2 are great to learn the track.
I prefer the MX5 cup.
The issue with GT3/GT4 cars is that the aero and the power are flatting out the track caracteristics (grip & uphill-downhill).
i tought myself to compelete the nordschife without spinning out nor crashing WITH A CONTROLLER
Stick with one car for ALL your tracks...Ferrarri 488, baby!
Tony Bucca love that car!!!
Ah, the Dark Souls of race tracks
Recent??! It's almost 100 years old
Nordschleife is difficult on Beam NG
I guess I did everything wrong but still know it perfectly 😂
Yayagaga 26 me too, lol! But I’m hoping others can learn from my mistakes
Here's the only advice you need: practice
Tip 10 simplified: If you play Codemasters F1 games, stay away from the Nordschleife
All changes when you drive through that barrier in real life.