Do You Make These 5 Overtaking Mistakes? [Sim Racing]
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- čas přidán 5. 06. 2024
- Dive into the most common overtaking mistakes we see when working with Sim Racers featuring Driver61's Head Racing Coach Scott Mansell.
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Me: "No I never make any overtaking mistakes."
Also me: *Usually the one getting overtaken so it doesn't really apply*
This is truth 💯😂
Me qualifying 1st and finishing 2nd practically every race
I love the fact, u as a professional racing driver, giving us sim racers your advices to drive faster and cleaner. Thank u very much 👍
His videos are great. Look for the apex, and actually look at it has helped me a lot lol.
Happy to help!
I learned a lot too
I swear this man is describing my entire session when I get in the sim rig. I have zero patience and mess up my entire race.
One mistake i made in a real kart race was using a shadow as my braking point, because when a cloud came I had no idea where to brake
Bruh lmao
The tip about building SR in iRacing is spot on. I try to tell people just starting out to race anyway, don’t fast track up to a higher license via SR. You’ll have a higher license but a lower iRating so you’ll be matched with lower skill drivers. Because of that you’ll be in more accidents and will struggle to actually learn to race. I advise people to stay in rookies until you start seeing cleaner racing because that means you’re nearing the top of the drivers in rookies who are truly ready to move up
Agreed... Contact in sim racing should not happen this much. A 4x should be an 8x. I don't even like contact with the AI. I kills the fun and immersion.
Today I was in a ranked race on RRE and I was 2 secs off the pace of the leader in 5th But I stayed at my same pace and ended up winning while the other just pushed so hard they took took themselves out while i just creep along. Thanks im still taking notes
Very useful info! Also, as you have mentioned in other videos, the guy doing the overtaking is responsible for doing it cleanly, since the guy in front may not see you back there. When I practice racecraft in the sim I have found it useful to lower the computer drivers (ai) skill level, so I more easily can follow them around and be in the "pack" without having to burst a blood vessel trying to catch up to them...
I’m glad you’ve been doing sim racing videos again. I’d love to see some more of your races and analysis!
You should do some laps in a sim, with a eye tracker, to show what youre doing, and where youre looking!
The problem with driving close but fair in iracing, is many times, they will mess up a corner, some how spear right across the track and kill you. you give loads of space, but you drop your irating and SR in 1 move that you literally couldn't avoid. iRacing needs to look at removing the SR issue when another car looses control and takes you out when you have no control over the situation. Some times iRacing discourages close racing due to a simple issue of someone spinning in front of you, and you have no way to avoid.
The patience thing , More people need to apply that from what I've experienced :)
“If you no longer go for a gap….”
Patience in this case means realising when it's **actually a gap**, and when it just looks like one but is a crash in disguise...
You have an amazing content Scott! I'm learning day by day. Greetings from Brazil 👍 👍 👍!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I find the main problem is when you catch an opponent and you're working them out in order to pass is the car that then catches you both. Even if they realise you got away from them in the first place, they then attempt to get by you as they think you're suddenly a slow car!???
Drives me crazy! Fair enough if you make a mistake or are taking tooooo long but they often try to force their way past too soon
It's that bloody quote from Senna. The mo you dont go for a gap is the mo you stop being a race car driver. I swear its brainwashing sim racers. The only answer is too make sure you qually well.
@@allyhaze8300 yep 😂 and while I'm sure we all follow that kind of saying you also have to try and not be an idiot about it.
It's a fine line though as you can't just form a line and just sit there, you just have to be mindful of others to help everyone have a good time
I know this is off topic for this video but your trail braking videos have made me significantly quicker and more planted and confident on the track. Thank you VERY much for these detailed and easily understandable explanations!
Both your channels are pure gold.
Entertaining while also highly informative with that technical focus and real race driver perspective.
Your videos made me a better Sim racer.
Thank you Scott. I appreciate your work and that you share your knowledge with us.
I really enjoy the straight on face cam instead of different angles, prefer the eye to eye (sort of ) contact.
Great advice and greatly appreciate the help
Thanks for your advices, it helps many sim Racers like me to perform more fun in races.
@ Driver61- Kind Sir! Thank you for sharing your endless amount of car racing knowledge and wisdom; we do appreciate you very much! Thank you.
I am the worst at following other cars. I am so worried about missing a braking mark or misjudging theirs and rear-ending them. Wish I had rl friends that liked racing to practice with but mainly that fear keeps me from racing at all. Rather just do time trials and practice to avoid the drama. *sigh* but I know I need to just get over it.
Practice against ai or just move a litte bit to the left or right so you can see your braking point but remember slow in fast out
You have to lift early, coast a little bit with your foot rested over the brake pedal, anticipating when the car ahead will brake, and then braking once you notice the car ahead slowing down.
If you just brake like normal, you're risking running into the car in front of you.
Sound advice folks, thank you for it. Practice will help me overcome it for sure. But the anxiety keeping me from doing something I enjoy is my real issue. Been working up to it again more lately though. Also does Iracing have AI opponents now?
@@greyskies2715 yes iracing does have AI racing. And for the braking part. If you’re following somebody in the race this means you’re probably faster than him. So keep your patience and brake earlier than normal this way you’ll have more time to adjust to the situation. Sometimes I discovered that by braking earlier I even had a better exit and passed the car in front after the corner.
@@Maurice-mk5cl I'm going to have to check out the AI then. Never knew that. And that's very good advice. My only fear then will be the guy behind me making the mistake I'm afraid of making, but yeah, that's racing. Thanks again. o7
Getting back into simracing with your videos make me way better within a few sessions than the many hours I drove in the past. Thank you, competing for top 100 in RR competitions now, instead of top 500 like when I just got back into it.
Thank you, this was great!
Break: Separate or cause to separate into pieces as a result of a blow, shock, or strain.
Brake: Make a moving vehicle slow down or stop by using a brake.
That Goodsmile Racing livery on the LMP2 at 5:20 is *chefs kiss* 🤏
Good stuff. You guys should check out his course, it's great stuff.
"taking 2 drivers out of the race"... At monza it's more like 5 to 7 drivers. lol.
Scott you're the man. Love your channel. Would love to take lessons with you at some point but I spent it all on the gear.
When I heard you voice I was like: this guy sounds familiar **checks channel name** **realizeation**
I have an issue of being too nice on track, and it costs me positions lol. Basically I don't want to accidentally wreck someone. But I do better when I push, and take chances. Basically when I actually race I do better lol.
Yup, initially i was the same, but experience has taught me that nice does not equal safest. The most significant safety factor is being decisive and well understood by opponent.
When you race and "take chances" you have a dialog (or hustle) with guy behind which increases safety through better understanding and decisiveness (which is offset by both of you pushing, so crashes still happen). But it is possible to have a dialog also when chilling around. For example move the car off the racing line on entry 1 car width to the inside for few corners and see what car behind does. You loose a little pace but gain tons of useful info (on what type of driver is behind and how he wants to go about it), as well as indicating that you require a decisive move before the corner and not tolerate the last minute "o shit i miscalculated" dives that often leads to wrecks or big time losses. Plus he'll have better view of braking markers, place to go if he makes a mistake, and you'll obstruct the apex forcing him to think where to place the car rather than just trying to mindlessly outbrake you.
Staying on the racing line and and giving a lot of space when opponent goes for it, while nice looking, is putting all the burden of control of the overtake on him. But make him work with you on it, and it will be safer and more fun. (and the few drivers that will get super annoyed by "blocking" will be easy to spot and stay far away from).
Excellent video, the sad thing is, i feel like the people who are watching this video, are not the people who NEED to watch this video!!! Great points, glad that i pretty much do them all already :D
Great videos 👌👍
Love this guy
I am too optimistic sometimes, but also is nice to follow the others cars with safety
All great content as always Scott. It would also help if drivers realised there is someone much faster approaching them and give a little race room. I am always aware of those approaching from behind and if they are quicker I let them by to fight another day.
Do you have an email to contact for the sim school? You’re an amazing teacher and have helped me already
One thing I still struggle with is that I overshoot my brake marker sometimes, because I'm further away from it and / or the car I'm trying to overtake is obscuring it. I'm using the recommended FOV, so lower than the default settings for sure, but that shouldn't matter right? Any tips?
Vision is a big thing, if I follow a car almost on bumper, I hardly see anything. I often slow down a bit to get a better vision again.
here i am playing with a keyboard and still watching these videos 🙃
5:18
yes, miku car livery
I'm kinda the opposite TBH. I wonder how I can improve on that. Whenever I'm fighting with others etc., I'm doing fine, but when I have free track and opponents far behind, I start making mistakes. IDK if I'm losing concentration back then, or what, but I'll start making a really stupid mistakes and often just DNF after getting a good lead.
Practice your consistency. You don't need to be pushing for the fastest lap times once you've pulled that lead. Ease back a little on the pace, drive at your comfort zone where you're least likely to make mistakes, and focus on putting up near identical lap times on the board each lap. Once you can find that lap time you can just repeat over and over and over and over again for what seems like an infinite amount of time, that's your comfort zone pace. The drivers behind you pushing hard to catch up are way more likely to make mistakes than you are at that point.
When you have common sense, but still desperately need to hear someone say it. (Thanks)
you driven in the endurance series b4 ?
I missed one: monkey see monkey do. Close up, guy in front makes a nervous mistake, I just follow in his trail, we both mess up
I was actually expecting this one too, as I noticed that I do this a lot.
Spot on video though, very helpful.
I have been racing for years. lately the amount of times drivers punt me or spin me to win is getting frustrating. It seems i can get hit, race ruined, they drive on not enough damage to ruin their race. I was racing safely they get rewarded for dirty moves.
❤️
One of my biggest problems is fatigue. I can do about 30min after that my performamce really drops off and I start making a lot more braking mistakes. Do you have any tips for that?
Keep focus on your breakpoints. Dont look at laps or time
I would say, try to relax more in the beginning of the race, not pushing but instead just trying to get into a flow.
I think we need bigger consequences for contact in iracing. It happens to much and it's just a Sim is no excuse. I'd rather have a clean average race then a good dirty race. I'm not talking about rubbing I'm talking about lunging
Thank to explain everything good. Hope lot of people will see that videos... My it's what I learn since years of Racing/simRacing, but yes driver still do that kind of mistake to overtake. And can ruin all your work...
I can't even see the track when someone in front of me 🤣
Where is my comment? I made a comment that you also should do a video about defending. And I had a question about a specific situation. So I put a link to a other you tube video. Is that the reason my comment dissapear?
10 secs ago... wow!
Just got a wheel any tips
watch more of this guys vids and check out empty box as well.
Practice, practice, practice, practice, and make sure you brake pedal feels alright.
Learn how to trail brake
@@Maurice-mk5cl ^^
Just skip to 7:30.
1st Nice video lol
I've been torpedoed so many times in iRacing... :-(
Gt sport players. There are places to overtake, and places not to overtake. Stop trying to pass everything in turn one lol. It doesn't help that the penalty system seems to be broken or turned off lol.
How in reality to brake on sim racing: Use my back bumper instead of the brakes...
please send this vid to verstappen
PATIENCE. My worst trait in racing, if it’s lap 1 and I’m in 2nd I can’t stand it and have to get in front immediately. Definitely patience, patience, I need to learn some patience. But damn it is so hard to be patient!
I think it’s hilarious the difference in people behaviour IRL, ya know when people can actually die and shit
assetto corsa has 4 laps. :( wreck them or be wrecked.
also, drafting is a thing
Please educate people not to use the car in front as a braking machine, they are born with left foot for some reason
Like #920
6:34 is a lie. IRL racing as demostrated by F1 champs, is much much more rash than most Sim racing. How they drive in real races will get them banned in Sim racing.
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