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  • A vehicles deck, in Commander?? Let's dig into this precon deck and upgrade it into a full-thottle masterpiece for just fifty dollars!
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  • @tokyoSamurai91
    @tokyoSamurai91 Před 2 lety +40

    Any way we can get a decklist of the cards added/removed without having to reference the pre-upgraded decklist against your moxfield decklist?

    • @ersatic
      @ersatic Před 2 lety +6

      +1 to this, the description usually contains this info and I was surprised that this one didn't; it's usually the most useful info for this series.
      That being said, keep up the great work @Nitpicking Nerds

    • @user-py4vn7kv8d
      @user-py4vn7kv8d Před 4 měsíci

      late but now you can use moxfields compare tool with the original deck

  • @yumyumeatemup
    @yumyumeatemup Před 2 lety +25

    Really excited for the Gruul Precon myself personally. Gonna do a little modification of my own on that precon and call it oops all swords! Sword of Truth and justice is gonna love this deck LOL

    • @NitpickingNerds
      @NitpickingNerds  Před 2 lety +6

      Truth and Justice is like "FINALLY a place to be played"

  • @Myrdin90
    @Myrdin90 Před 2 lety +9

    They tooled this entire re-make around Kotori, Pilot Prodigy
    The Cards they took out and put in:
    -Jace, Architect of Thought (Any Tezzeret would be better)
    -Release to Memory
    -Drum Bellower (doesn't untap Vehicles)
    -Swift Reconfiguration
    -Mirage Mirror (I disagree with this)
    -Teshar, Ancestor's Apostle (Great card, but not for this deck)
    -Cataclysmic Gearhulk (anti-synergy because this deck wants to go wide with creatures and artifacts)
    +Echo Storm (Better to clone the best vehicles than to play bad ones)
    +Saheeli's Artistry (Better to clone the best vehicles than to play bad ones)
    +Phyrexian Metamorph
    +Tempered Steel
    +Forsaken Monument
    -Raiders' Karve
    -Mobilizer Mech (everything is supposed to have Crew 2 so we can already crew everything)
    -Imperial Recovery Unit (Too slow?)
    -Aeronaut Admiral
    -Katsumasa, the Animator
    -Armed and Armored
    -Dance of the Manse ("How do we get a bunch of Vehicles in our graveyard?")
    +Consulate Dreadnought
    +Conqueror's Galleon
    +Mechtitan Core
    +Reckoner Bankbuster
    +Anchor to Reality
    +Deadeye Quartermaster
    +Whir of Invention
    Artifact Adds:
    -Riddlesmith
    -Whirler Rogue (I disagree with this)
    -Indominable Archangel
    -Hanna, Ship's Navigator (6mana get back 1 thing, 9 for 2)
    -Raff Capashen, Ship's Mage
    -Ironsoul Enforcer (This card is here for one of the alt-commanders, not Kotori)
    +Vedalken Archmage
    +Mirrodin Besieged (makes Myr that can crew or block)
    +Digsite Engineer (2 mana for 5/5s or more!)
    +Padeem, Consul of Innovation (the Archangel wishes it was Padeem!)
    +Bronze Guardian (across the board MVP)
    Ramp, removal & Card Draw:
    (Most of the RRCD in this deck are good already)
    -Silver Myr
    -Gold Myr
    -Arcanist's Owl
    +Prismatic Lense
    +Jhoira's Familiar
    +Scaretiller (If you have a fetchland, like Evolving Wilds you can crew and play the fetch every turn!)
    +Daring Thief
    +Thought Monitor (1 mana -> draw 2 cards!)
    +Shimmer Dragon (bonkers)
    Lands:
    (There are way to many basics in this deck, what the heck?!)
    -17 basic lands
    +Razortide Bridge
    +Darksteel Citadel
    +Ancient Den
    +Seat of the Synod
    +Buried Ruin
    +Flood Plain
    +Irrigated Farmland
    +Nimbus Maze
    +Glacial Fortress
    +Deserted Beach
    +Geier Reach Sanitarium
    +Mirror Pool (can copy Vehicles if we crew them)
    +Myriad Landcape
    +Evolving Wilds
    +Terramorphic Expance
    +Ash Barrens
    Overall thoughts: It's a little janky, not a lot of ways to win the game, but the deck is cool and fun to play.
    No infinite loops, no ridiculous snowballing, no alternate win conditions, but you get to smack your opponents with super cool, massive mechs!

  • @reillysullivan1054
    @reillysullivan1054 Před 2 lety +21

    You are so wrong about swift reconfiguration, turning your own creature in to a vehicle and never crewing it is really powerful

    • @clanechelon
      @clanechelon Před 2 lety +3

      Exactly, if your commander is not reliant on combat, its a protection spell. I can see it over perform in some meta. Sometime you just need to survive one more turn and it can hose a blightsteel colossus for at least a turn.

    • @ramirr
      @ramirr Před 2 lety

      @@clanechelon so can a vanilla 2/2

    • @clanechelon
      @clanechelon Před 2 lety +2

      @@ramirr i think you are missing the point where a 2/2 vanilla offers no flexbility and is easily removable if its the only thing protecting you from Blightsteel... But nice try ;)

    • @d5o1001
      @d5o1001 Před 2 lety

      Also if you can turn someone else's creature into a vehicle it will give you more time to build.

  • @mfitkin
    @mfitkin Před 2 lety +41

    I think all the graveyard recursion is if you run shorikai as the commander, he’s like a fatty perpetual timepiece in the command zone

  • @richarizardplays9619
    @richarizardplays9619 Před 2 lety +13

    I guess they built these recommendations with Kotori in mind. Can you make 1 about Shorikai? I think it's the better commander for this deck. (IMO of course and based on XP)

  • @kstone2damax
    @kstone2damax Před 2 lety +14

    I don’t know why they made Kotori the front-of-box commander. Imo Shorikai is much stronger and the deck seems more geared toward it.

    • @ne0komodo
      @ne0komodo Před 2 lety

      Vehicle is a rather niche and unknown concept for newer players. Maybe the same reason why we don't have werewolf precon for two previous Innistrad sets.
      Pre-con commanders are usually straight forward to play.

    • @d5o1001
      @d5o1001 Před 2 lety +1

      Also, many of the cards they are throwing out really make Shorikai shine. If I can trash a bunch a good vehicles and bring them straight to the battlefield it's a no brainer.

    • @iBloodxHunter
      @iBloodxHunter Před 2 lety

      My guess is because you can just use her to crew the Shorikai and search for it using something like Arcanist's Owl or Anchor to Reality.

  • @vincentrutledge9445
    @vincentrutledge9445 Před 2 lety +3

    The anger in both of your eyes when the person either says or doesn’t say Ferrari is hilarious.

  • @mattiavenier3898
    @mattiavenier3898 Před 2 lety +7

    Following you on moxfield just now guys! Let's keep the nerds at the top of moxfield. Love your content.

  • @jacetheace517
    @jacetheace517 Před 2 lety +12

    Sometimes I watch a video and I'm like "these guys get it". And others I wonder if they've ever actually played a game of commander.

  • @FoldyHold
    @FoldyHold Před 2 lety +9

    Swift reconfiguration is insane and really worth keeping imo. Although one may not run a lot of creatures in the deck at the very least you can throw it on the commander and never crew so you keep static ability and that goes with any creature youre running in the deck you may want to keep out. It also can act in some cases as a board wipe protection or even tsuedo spot removal if desperate.

    • @NitpickingNerds
      @NitpickingNerds  Před 2 lety

      If this card isn’t combining we strong advise against playing it

    • @dantemalick2872
      @dantemalick2872 Před 2 lety +3

      Its won me games vers an opponents voltron galea deck nothing like telling the guy with like 5 creatures in his entire deco he needs to crew his commander

    • @UnexpectedDanger
      @UnexpectedDanger Před 2 lety +2

      It's a really great card, but sometimes people don't really understand the depth of what's possible. I've seen very smart players who are totally clueless about certain cards, concepts, perspectives, or strategies. It happens.

  • @willleonard7439
    @willleonard7439 Před 2 lety

    I appreciate that I now know how Ferraris work. Additionally, kitty in the video was a great addition.

  • @suenldspker
    @suenldspker Před 2 lety +1

    Can't wait to buy this deck and upgrade it!! cheers for the video guys!

  • @molkosaurus
    @molkosaurus Před 2 lety

    nice one! I'm waiting for the 2 decks I bought in prerelease. I also have a Depala, pilot exemplar of vehicles and dwarfs wich is really funny!

  • @porkdumpster3110
    @porkdumpster3110 Před 2 lety +1

    Swift reconfiguration turns your own creature into an artifact and dodges removal, turning it into an enchantment basically. Converted mine to Alela, her as basically an enchantment, is nice.

    • @NitpickingNerds
      @NitpickingNerds  Před 2 lety

      That sounds... bad

    • @porkdumpster3110
      @porkdumpster3110 Před 2 lety

      @@NitpickingNerds Investing a bunch of mana into your commander again sounds bad.

    • @linkal_8097
      @linkal_8097 Před rokem

      @@NitpickingNerds it’s actually surprisingly good for less combat focused decks, it’s not just a combat trick, it’s a protection spell that permanently makes your commander (or any target) harder to remove. The gravy to the card is that it also doubles as janky removal, I feel like you guys are missing the value on this card

  • @warl54961
    @warl54961 Před 2 lety +4

    Drumbellower is great with vehicles! It let's you untap your creatures to re-crew your vehicles to use as blockers!

    • @warl54961
      @warl54961 Před 2 lety +2

      Like really, i feel that's a huge miss here. You even have a side token generation theme. So you crew your vehicles on your turn. and on enemy turns, in response to the untap, crew your vehicles again with your excess tokens, getting to untap all your vehicles and crewing creatures all at once. So you always have your vehicles up. and just play around board wipes when you feel one is impending.

    • @Maverick2736
      @Maverick2736 Před 2 lety

      @@warl54961 "getting to untap all your vehicles-" Drumbellower alone doesn't allow that. You crew a vehicle to turn it into a creature, then it attacks, and when your turn ends it stops being a creature. Then during your opponent's untap step, Drumbellower lets you untap all your creatures... but the vehicles you attacked with remain tapped, because they stopped being creatures before your opponent's upkeep.
      For the tapped vehicles to be reusable for blocking, you'd need something like an Unwinding Clock to be able to untap them. You're right in that Drumbellower is more useful than these guys think, though.

    • @warl54961
      @warl54961 Před 2 lety

      @@Maverick2736 can't you simply crew your vehicles again before the untap? I've played against this precon multiple times and they always seem to have more pilots than you need

    • @warl54961
      @warl54961 Před 2 lety

      @@Maverick2736 I could be wrong. I'm not sure anymore if a player has priority before things untap

    • @iBloodxHunter
      @iBloodxHunter Před 2 lety

      @@Maverick2736 Vehicles can crew at Instant speed even while tapped so if you are allowed to make actions during your opponents Untap then it works by just recrewing them during it.

  • @deadNdivine12
    @deadNdivine12 Před 2 lety

    Definitely slapping an intruder alarm in this deck somewhere.. if I decide to play it haha. Good video fellas.

  • @christopherpoxon9508
    @christopherpoxon9508 Před 2 lety

    I knew when I bought it this deck was going to be bad but Thank you so much for helping rebuild it.

  • @Cantthinkofname-rp3iw
    @Cantthinkofname-rp3iw Před 2 lety +16

    Was excited for this deck hopefully it drops to like 15 dollars given the horrible reprint value

  • @nikolaschiotakis9400
    @nikolaschiotakis9400 Před 2 lety +3

    If you guys could do a Shorikai deck that would be amazing!

  • @spudster8887
    @spudster8887 Před 2 lety +3

    A really cool pick for this deck is Minn, wily illusionist, you can trigger her every turn with the mech as your commander, which gives you more bodies for crewing and a way to put lands into play in blue

    • @theotherguy4478
      @theotherguy4478 Před 2 lety +1

      Add Unwinding Clock to the deck and Minn can be triggered on everyone's turn.

    • @spudster8887
      @spudster8887 Před 2 lety +1

      @@theotherguy4478 I added that along with intruder alarm, and iso rev as the first changes to my version

  • @mechaThor
    @mechaThor Před 2 lety +1

    Some cards I like for this precon based off of some modern Blue Steel lists I think could be fun: Throne of the God-Pharoah (you’re going to be tapping to crew, why not deal extra damage to all opponents?), Chief Engineer (gives Convoke for all our artifact spells, should test, but could help with ramping out our bigger vehicles!), and Grand Architect (similar on the ramp theme, and also puts our 1/* blue drops into crew range with Kotori). Exited to play the precon & upgrade from these recommendations!

  • @MrNbkelly
    @MrNbkelly Před 2 lety +2

    Can you post an upgrades list by itself in addition to the upgraded list? Makes it easier to see quickly what to buy.

  • @WayfarersBauble
    @WayfarersBauble Před 2 lety +6

    How can Wizards throw 30 friggin' basics in a precon and not include me? It's asinine.

  • @RedCometNurse
    @RedCometNurse Před 2 lety +5

    I am converting this deck into a 4-color Breya, Etherium Shaper deck that is all Artifact Creatures (Alibou, Ancient Witness as a sort of secret Commander). I am definitely going to have fun with this one.

    • @NitpickingNerds
      @NitpickingNerds  Před 2 lety +3

      I am doing a breya deck similar

    • @RedCometNurse
      @RedCometNurse Před 2 lety

      @@NitpickingNerds That new Non-Artifacts board wipe is going to feel so good to cast!

    • @ArchangelJaceAscended
      @ArchangelJaceAscended Před 2 lety +1

      I had the exact same idea! I wanted to use Alibou with Kotori so I started building this on Moxfield. I named the deck "I, Robot." But I haven't really developed it too much.

    • @RedCometNurse
      @RedCometNurse Před 2 lety

      @@ArchangelJaceAscended Mine is going to be called "IT'S A GUNDAM!" or "Autobots, Roll Out!". I already have much of what I need for it, just gotta jam it together.

  • @thetasworld
    @thetasworld Před 2 lety +1

    It's scientifically proven that wishing everyone, happy birthday each day of the year, makes the world a better place.

  • @iBloodxHunter
    @iBloodxHunter Před 2 lety +1

    10:00
    As somebody that plays the deck in Standard, the reason they put this stuff in there is because people actually use Artifact/Enchantment removal and your vehicles die.

  • @iisaka_station
    @iisaka_station Před 2 lety

    Nice video thanks

  • @KevinYuMusic1
    @KevinYuMusic1 Před 2 lety +1

    I have been trialing a kykar and alela vehicles build - it is surprisingly efficient and somewhat good

  • @byronsmothers8064
    @byronsmothers8064 Před 2 lety

    I wonder if integrating some of kaladesh's boros vehicle×pilot toolkit & running akiri & galcian in the CZ would make for an interesting respec..

  • @yoricktop8649
    @yoricktop8649 Před 2 lety +1

    My favorite deck i have currently is a Hanna, ships navigator deck, when Beezy said it was a good card i almost fell off my seat. When i cast my commander my playgroup jokes that i have nothing better going on or i would have played something else, it is literally the worst card in my deck, but i love her.

  • @LuisAGuti
    @LuisAGuti Před 2 lety +1

    I did a Sidry deck with vehicles and is great and powerfull

  • @SirCorn
    @SirCorn Před 2 lety +3

    "Will you say 'Ferrari', please?"
    "No."

  • @marcocolombo4495
    @marcocolombo4495 Před rokem

    Hi everyone, could you have the list of cards to add and remove from the precon-deck? Thank you

  • @TheUkuleleViking
    @TheUkuleleViking Před 2 lety +1

    I think there are a lot of things that you missed on the "bad cards". For example, swift reconfiguration. Put it on your own guy to make him harder to target. Vehichles are not creatures so they are harder to get rid of.

  • @mjvane46
    @mjvane46 Před 2 lety

    Danse of the manse seems like very strong recursion, because it also makes fhe vehicles into creatures. It definately has the issues you mentioned of only working after you get vandalblast, but i also run command the dreadhord in decks that have no sacrifice or mill themes (i understand ctd is better because it hits other yards).
    I dont even strongly disagree, just would rather playtest it a few times befpre cutting it, because its absurd in my alela list

  • @AbyssArray
    @AbyssArray Před 2 lety +1

    I have found at my table that artifact wipes have been increasing in value, my cousin does play stuff like Mana Crypt and Moxes, and more than once, Culling Ritual has shut him out of the game. Bane of Progress has also been quite nasty, my roommate runs it in his Halana and Elena deck, since it does place +1/+1 counters on itself and it has the synergy for the deck
    Losheel, Clockwork Scholar could be neat, it can draw you a card a turn and also prevent the dmg against your Vehicles to help protect them
    I love the utility land suggestions, I'm a big fan of utility lands, I may be a bit greedy with my Utility lands, trying to squeeze out the most out of my land base lol. I feel like they royally screwed this deck up from the getgo, though it may be due to vehicles not being great cards to add to a collection.. but they could have at least added a solid mana base and mana rocks: Talisman of Progress, Wayfarer's Bauble.. Pain land would have been a nice choice too, and the utility land options mentioned in the video

  • @metagrossle
    @metagrossle Před 2 lety

    But, the myr can crew vehicles? So they are a better top deck than a normal mana rock. Or a familiar.

  • @ThunderstruckElectronix
    @ThunderstruckElectronix Před 2 lety +1

    Doesn't mirage mirror help you by copying your strongest vehacles?

  • @dac314
    @dac314 Před 2 lety +1

    Every deck SHOULD have recursion, because someone really could be red-green hating out your artifacts, and then you've gotta lot of pilots and nothing else.
    Always gotta have recursion, gottdayumn.

  • @stachio4265
    @stachio4265 Před 2 lety +1

    Have preordered the deck already but still deciding on which commander to use out of Shorikai and Kotori; any thoughts on how Shorikai fares at the helm of the deck?

    • @PointySuperman
      @PointySuperman Před 2 lety +2

      Shorikai provides more consistent, immediate value as a pilot generator and card draw machine. You need pilots to crew vehicles, and it acts as a vehicle in addition to everything else.

  • @kyubikirby
    @kyubikirby Před 2 lety

    on the topic of basics, I do have a deck with over 30 basics, but it is mono color, and is indeed Sasaya, Orochi Ascendant. and she absolutely cares that they are basics, but yeah, any of my other decks run a lot less basics, even mono-colored.

  • @jarendavidson5758
    @jarendavidson5758 Před 2 lety

    NEW NITPICKING NERDS VIDEO!

  • @dab022
    @dab022 Před 2 lety +1

    Please do one for the mech commander as well.

  • @mmartak
    @mmartak Před 2 lety +1

    My only two cents: the new decklist is a bit creature-heavy. I'd replace a lot of those slots with more target removal / creature-focused board wipes. You're also not taking advantage of creature lands in the land slots...those make excellent pilots for the vehicles.

  • @turpentinee.o.i5864
    @turpentinee.o.i5864 Před 2 lety

    How many consultants do you have and what resources do you use I’m very curious.

  • @vasylpark2149
    @vasylpark2149 Před 2 lety

    To be fair I use mirage mirror in my mono-black Ayara deck to copy lands that generate a lot of mana.

  • @shawnwilt7196
    @shawnwilt7196 Před 2 lety

    Why does no one include treasure mage in these rebuilds? I see lots of potential for it. Am I wrong? Or conjurer's closet for that matter.

  • @christophervennix9861
    @christophervennix9861 Před 2 lety

    Consulate Dreadnought is an odd choice. Early game its fine, you might get a couple free shots in with it. Stalemate it probably doesn't give you an advantage, most people can afford to throw chump blockers under it, vanilla big attackers rarely lead to winning board states. If you are behind on board you probably don't have your commander out or enough bodies to crew it and it does nothing if it can't be crewed. If you are ahead on board its not too bad, a 7 power lifelink/vigilant swing its pretty good but there are better pieces that you can draw.

    • @NitpickingNerds
      @NitpickingNerds  Před 2 lety

      It is a cheap vehicle that comes out early and beats down all games. Vehicle are overall pretty bad

  • @Arosium
    @Arosium Před 2 lety

    “Will you say Ferrari please?”
    “No”
    Gold.

  • @powec12w
    @powec12w Před 2 lety

    Anyone have a list for just the cards that got added

  • @humanname1458
    @humanname1458 Před 2 lety

    Scaretiller with this mana base is absolutely BASED

  • @DeathMonkey21834
    @DeathMonkey21834 Před 2 lety +1

    do you think that it would be good to good Esper to include Greasefang?

    • @iBloodxHunter
      @iBloodxHunter Před 2 lety +1

      From my limited amount of experience, making the deck into an Esper deck completely changes its playstyle. Debatable that it's for the better, it becomes a Grixis style Cycling deck instead of a pseudo aggro-midrange

    • @DeathMonkey21834
      @DeathMonkey21834 Před 2 lety +1

      @@iBloodxHunter yeah I have been playing around with it and it doesn't make sense as you need to get get cards in the graveyard find GreaseFang and by that time you can already cast the big vehicles. Is there other cards that would make sense to move into black for? My idea now is just for fun low power. I am also thinking going five color for full jank.... And call it the Jankyard Vehicle deck

    • @iBloodxHunter
      @iBloodxHunter Před 2 lety

      @@DeathMonkey21834 Eh, there's only a couple that I can think of. There's a Saga that buffs vehicles, the 4 mana Aura that destroys a creature on ETB works ok, there's Mojutai Soulripper which is pretty good and aside from that just generic discard outlets and removal.
      We're talking about Commander though which is a format I have little experience with and you have access to most of the card pool. I'm only thinking of NEO cards, there's stuff like the Leiges, there's the EMN Legendary searcher Thalia's Lancers.
      Speaking of jank, I'm using a copy of Coax From the Blind Eternities since the deck came with like 3 ways to get off color mana so I can play an "Extra Deck" of Eldrazi, mostly Emerge cards.

  • @Dovahkiin2406
    @Dovahkiin2406 Před 2 lety

    i didn´t even THINK about cloning the best vehicles instead of playing mediocre ones. seeing it this way, clone effects actually are vehicles so that gives me something to think!

  • @AndrewBater
    @AndrewBater Před 2 lety +2

    I think they were worried about blood moon when they made this deck

  • @christianbusch9476
    @christianbusch9476 Před 2 lety

    a shorikai version would be nice. anyway thumbs up

  • @TheySaidWeSaid
    @TheySaidWeSaid Před 2 lety

    Watch Murderville with David Arnett. Lol!

  • @alexeilassistant
    @alexeilassistant Před 2 lety +1

    Joe wants to name this deck Ferrari's Wake

  • @certaingloom3797
    @certaingloom3797 Před 2 lety

    For of Aeronaut Admiral, they could have reprinted Vedalken Humiliator instead.

  • @Tymor666
    @Tymor666 Před 2 lety

    Yay, love the amber include 💕, sad no MDFCs were added tho

    • @NitpickingNerds
      @NitpickingNerds  Před 2 lety +1

      None really fit this time

    • @Tymor666
      @Tymor666 Před 2 lety

      @@NitpickingNerds I feel glasspool would have worked but a lil expensive

    • @theotherguy4478
      @theotherguy4478 Před 2 lety

      The pathway land would work. Better than having a basic.

  • @crispycaveman9164
    @crispycaveman9164 Před 2 lety +1

    An actual win con is to go infinite with intruder alarm and a mana myr. Draw your whole deck play your other mana dorks. Make infinite mana gain infinite life with immortality elixir and then discard your deck and reanimate with dance of the manse counter anything let it resolve. Get your counter magic back with immortality elixir and then cyclonic rift and attack for game

  • @willmyers9013
    @willmyers9013 Před rokem

    Disagree with the mirage mirror. You can make it a Blightsteel colossus in a pinch if possible

  • @bostrandin8460
    @bostrandin8460 Před 2 lety

    why is indomiable archangel in the precon? it turns of half the text of the commander.

  • @firstandlast.1254
    @firstandlast.1254 Před 2 lety

    Consider me buckled!

  • @jwromero23
    @jwromero23 Před 2 lety

    As a fellow Timmy player like Joe you can tell he's way more hyped about this vehicles deck! I'll say it with you Joe! FERRARI! Two Ferraris are indeed better than one!

    • @jwromero23
      @jwromero23 Před 2 lety

      Also side note I plan on being obnoxious with my play group and making absurd engine noises, mech noises as well as playing the gundam wing theme for ambiance. My play group hates me 😔

    • @theotherguy4478
      @theotherguy4478 Před 2 lety +1

      @@jwromero23 You'll have to do the "t minus x seconds" with the launch sound afterwards.

  • @MBison-fs8vp
    @MBison-fs8vp Před 2 lety

    Not sure how Emry is still in the deck with all the other cards that got cut

  • @martonferenci
    @martonferenci Před 2 lety

    Armed and Armored with Isochron Scepter and Unwinding Clock?

  • @patrickflynn1481
    @patrickflynn1481 Před 2 lety

    Just showed you guys some love with my last TCG card purchase!

  • @EJsGameplay
    @EJsGameplay Před 2 lety +1

    Is there a "Just the upgrades list" link?

    • @NitpickingNerds
      @NitpickingNerds  Před 2 lety +1

      We did not make that but we can.

    • @EJsGameplay
      @EJsGameplay Před 2 lety

      @@NitpickingNerds If not it's fine, it's just really convenient to not have to cross reference the upgraded list with what was already in the precons.

    • @Ilasperr
      @Ilasperr Před 2 lety +1

      @@NitpickingNerds please do , it would be much appreciated.

  • @sebastianmarkow6822
    @sebastianmarkow6822 Před 2 lety +2

    Cutting Mobilizer Mech and Recovery Unit is such a mistake.

    • @NitpickingNerds
      @NitpickingNerds  Před 2 lety

      It seems like adding them is a purely defensive move when we can't proactively put vehicles in our graveyard

  • @Cybershroom
    @Cybershroom Před 2 lety

    Turning Buckle up into a powerhouse. Pick shorikai as commander and shove in an Intruder alarm into your deck.

  • @ArchangelJaceAscended
    @ArchangelJaceAscended Před 2 lety

    Yeah I love Jace (obviously) but that Jace does absolutely NOTHING for that deck. First card I decided to cut, too with my theoretical build (since I'm still waiting on the actual deck to arrive). Drumbellower was also one of the first ones I cut because it works SO MUCH BETTER in my Garth One-Eye deck, where I want to untap him every turn. And I cut Swift Reconfiguration as well because, yeah, it's just not good removal. I kept Teshar because I think there's still some value there. I put Burnished Hart in and that's a great creature to get back with Teshar. I'm trying out the Gearhulk though, since you can keep a creature and an artifact, but I see your point. I cut the Admiral, too. HIs CC is too high and there's a vehicle that gives them all flying. And yeah, Armed and Armored is pretty bad. Too bad you can't play Reckless Crew to create a bunch of dwarves if you have vehicles but no creatures. Archangel and Enforcer are out for my Boros equipment deck since it's more of a Voltron strategy than this deck, even though Voltron is in it. I like Mobilizer Mech because it's good after a board wipe. You can cast Kotori from your Command Zone and immediately attack with TWO vehicles. If it was more expensive to cast, I'd say cut it, but at 2, I think it's decent. I also cut the Silver/Gold Myr. I like Arcanist Owl. And Thought Monitor was one of the first cards I thought to add. Guys, USE Liquimetal Torque! You don't need much color fixing in a 2-color deck so this is good because it can turn non-artifacts into artifacts, which has a lot of practical applications, including protecting Kotori from your one-sided board wipe. Phyrexian Rebirth is a board wipe that gives you a huge artifact creature. Also, consider: Filligree Angel, Ethersworn Sphinx, Losheel, Sculpting Steel, Duplicant, Sanctum Gargoyle, Steel Overseer, Phyrexia's Core. If you want, you can check out my deck here: www.moxfield.com/decks/oj8XerUbpk6WKVw0cImtVw . It's SUPER budget though because I have a really limited budget. like I can't even afford Phyrexian Metamorph or Shimmer Dragon right now. I'm going to try building it with what I have and then see about getting some budget cards to upgrade. So a lot of my "considering" cards are just cards I don't own at the moment. My mana base isn't finished yet, either. I'm really excited to...ahem...PILOT...this deck!

  • @andrewbowser9326
    @andrewbowser9326 Před 2 lety

    You added anchor to reality so your possibly sacrificing artifacts if you don't have artifsct tokens to pay it...

  • @jamesgratz4771
    @jamesgratz4771 Před 2 lety

    This is the classic “buy some of the singles” precons lol. A few new vehicles are cool. But this doesn’t synch well with the black vehicles in neon dynasty

    • @NitpickingNerds
      @NitpickingNerds  Před 2 lety +1

      I like some of the new space they're exploring with vehicles but I think it was too early to make a Vehicle commander precon, especially since almost all of the new cards aren't very powerful (not that they NEED to be, though)

  • @loganvain3
    @loganvain3 Před 2 lety

    Wait, no MDFC's were added to the mana base? This isn't the nerds I know

    • @NitpickingNerds
      @NitpickingNerds  Před 2 lety +1

      We were going so ham on the duals! We got some really good ones in that we usually can't fit intot a Power-Up

  • @mrgarneau4895
    @mrgarneau4895 Před 2 lety

    It really feels like the deck is going between using Kotori or Shorikai as the Commander. Half the cards feel like cheap vehicle pilots and expensive to crew vehicles, and the other half feels like a controlling GY matters deck.
    The deck almost feels like it's at odds with itself as both potential strategies don't necessarily work together well

    • @Maverick2736
      @Maverick2736 Před 2 lety

      I think WotC should release these precons with the intent of just using a single commander in the deck. They're going "if we add multiple commanders in the deck and make the deck in a way that makes all the commanders (half-assedly) work, people will like it more because variety sells! And if they need to customize the deck to make it work better with a single one of the commanders in it, then they'll buy boosters!"
      And that just takes away value from the purchase. If an EDH precon purchase isn't worth it because it's half-assedly built and the value of both the reprints and new cards is getting cheaper with every release, why keep buying precons in the first place?

  • @chall3ng33v3rything
    @chall3ng33v3rything Před 2 lety

    Joe “Ferrari” Cherries

  • @shiroimarcio
    @shiroimarcio Před 2 lety

    The deck looks slow, I would put some hatebears, like: Lavinia, archon of emeria, drannith magistrade, ethersworn canonist, etc

  • @angrydoge4038
    @angrydoge4038 Před 2 lety

    Why not flash myr instead of raff capashen

  • @Chaoslorden
    @Chaoslorden Před 2 lety +1

    It feels bad to buy this deck because of the poor mana base. Sure, I can slap some lands in there. But there should have been a bunch already in the deck!

  • @TheFranchise83
    @TheFranchise83 Před 2 lety

    You need Thran Turbine

  • @ReyaadawnMTG
    @ReyaadawnMTG Před 2 lety

    Ferraryxian Metamorph

  • @humbledgaming382
    @humbledgaming382 Před 2 lety +1

    Going to a Ferrari dealership with a mirage mirror = free Ferrari.

  • @kendelia9609
    @kendelia9609 Před 2 lety

    Love the content gents!
    Responding to "does mirage mirror go in any deck?"
    I have an all clones deck and it's amazing there!

  • @dominicmetzger3246
    @dominicmetzger3246 Před 2 lety

    I’m not totally convinced Joe knows what Ferraris are since he seems to think they “ram” and “fight” things.

  • @kaba9926
    @kaba9926 Před 2 lety

    No mdfc ? :o

  • @willyrivas4014
    @willyrivas4014 Před rokem

    Quick fix vehicles don’t work in this format or in any other so I took them all out and figured something out

  • @rthayes00
    @rthayes00 Před 2 lety

    New drinking game...shot for every Ferrari

  • @equos5060
    @equos5060 Před 2 lety +1

    I'm happy cause none of those decks are my jam. Bought Planar Portal instead. Loving it!

  • @LunykStormdragon
    @LunykStormdragon Před 2 lety

    joe’s little click-click at the start made me laugh out loud!!

  • @dudemetslagroom8065
    @dudemetslagroom8065 Před 2 lety

    its kinda obvious that all of these "graveyard recursion" stuff is based on Shorikai...Whirler rogue and ironsoul samurai sound ALOT better for him as your commander.

  • @NoMercyFtw
    @NoMercyFtw Před 2 lety

    Do u guys play precon games the board is wiped at least 2x if not 4x and then u use ur creatures or anything to block to stay alive til the next turn lol at the end of a precon game u r usually at least halfway through ur deck and either those cards r in ur graveyard or hand or both........ When u have the scariest thing onboard u get targeted and it gets removed or exiled and if it doesnt cool then u r winning or going to win............

  • @razielwinter
    @razielwinter Před 2 lety

    Jace, the we need a planeswalker. But we're cheapskates

    • @NitpickingNerds
      @NitpickingNerds  Před 2 lety

      Save up for a Tezzeret, basically any Tezzeret, WotC!

    • @razielwinter
      @razielwinter Před 2 lety

      I'm a bit of a bully. War Karn

    • @ArmadilloAl
      @ArmadilloAl Před 2 lety

      Every deck *needs* a planeswalker, but of course the precon that gets the *good* planeswalker is misprinted and they replace that planeswalker with a land by mistake.
      Why couldn't *this* one have been a duplicate land instead?

  • @simonp4832
    @simonp4832 Před 2 lety

    You guys are dead wrong on rapid reconfiguration js.

  • @ConstanceMists
    @ConstanceMists Před 2 lety

    Inb4 all these cards spike in price

  • @thomasgoetschkes6403
    @thomasgoetschkes6403 Před 2 lety +1

    "who puts 30 basics in their deck?!?!?!" yea who does that when they can run better lands... pushes away Bant deck with 30 basic lands

  • @DerpyLaron
    @DerpyLaron Před 2 lety

    I know this video is a bit older, but you did read the second commander in the deck? That is the "magical" deck that needs the GY stuff and after testing is the better commander. Hindsight is 20/20, but yeah it is funny to see you wonder what those cards is for while Shorikai is just chilling there.

  • @matthiasjaschke1471
    @matthiasjaschke1471 Před 2 lety

    see the price of your suggested cards explode ^^ some people on cardmarket literally buy all cheap copies of cards you suggest

  • @ronmarshall1566
    @ronmarshall1566 Před 2 lety +2

    It's my happy unbirthday today🤪

  • @Munchie3777
    @Munchie3777 Před 2 lety

    Yesssss robots so excited!!!! \(^o^)/!!!

    • @NitpickingNerds
      @NitpickingNerds  Před 2 lety

      Big ol' robo dudes

    • @Munchie3777
      @Munchie3777 Před 2 lety

      Yep I wanna see some gameplay with this deck but it's def interesting 2 me ^.^ so who knows I may build this 1