" MASCULINE OR FEMININE: YOUR ROLE IN SOCIETY " 1971 GENDER ROLES EDUCATIONAL FILM XD86955
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This 1971 Coronet educational film directed by J. William Walker looks at the evolution of gender roles in American society. It begins with an unidentifiable person on a motorcycle, who the viewer might assume to be a man -- but who turns out to be a woman when she takes her helmet off. This is followed by continuous interviews with a couple, a construction worker, two men in a suits, a working woman, and the motorcyclist herself. Each give their (very diverging) opinions about the role of men and women in society.
0:06 A Coronet Film, 0:35 “Masculine or Feminine - Your Role in Society”, educational collaborator Dr. Fred McKinney, 0:48 a motorcycle speeding down a road, 1:45 men doing different activities like playing football, working out, and doing mechanical work, 2:32 motorcyclist takes off her helmet and picks up a flower, 3:15 women doing different activities like ballet dancing, sewing, and make up, 3:57 different shots of adult men and women, 4:35 motorcyclist speaks to the camera, 4:45 different shots of university students walking on campus, 5:21 a suburban neighborhood, 5:44 a man going to work in a corporate job, 6:10 his wife going to the supermarket and doing shopping, 6:59 the couple speaks to the camera, 7:22 a man speaks to the camera, 7:44 man putting diapers on a baby, 7:57 woman speaks to the camera, 8:18 a construction worker speaking to the camera, 8:55 the motorcyclist speaks to the camera, 9:09 a man speaking to the camera, 9:28 a woman speaking to the camera, 10:05 construction worker speaks to the camera, 10:38 couple from earlier speaking to the camera, 11:25 women working in an office, 11:36 a couple being married, 12:31 couple speaking to the camera, 13:20 man speaking to the camera, 13:54 the couple walking out of the chapel, 14:11 a male boxer preparing for a match, 14:46 man speaking to the camera, 15:08 men doing boxing training, 15:39 motorcyclist speaks to the camera, 15:55 different shots from violent boxing matches, 16:33 man speaking to the camera, 16:47 different university students, 17:26 construction worker speaks to the camera, 17:50 the motorcyclist and her boyfriend both get on motorcycles and drive off, 18:32 directed by J. William Walker
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In 1975 I went into a neighborhood bank and applied for a teller job because I needed a job. The interviewer briskly asked me "Why would I be applying for a teller job?! I am male and I noted the tellers there were all female. The tone of voice convinced me it was a sex thing. That question ended the interview. A century earlier, all tellers were male!! Men wore high heeled shoes for centuries prior to the 1800s.
My grandmother was a teller in the 1930’s and 1940’s. She kept the household afloat during the Depression and through the war. Papa worked, too, but had less education, so had a hard time of it in the Depression. He did day work, manual labor. Then he entered the Navy. After the war, grandma was ready to step down. Papa went to school on the GI bill, and got an accounting job that paid all the bills.
@@mariekatherine5238 yep...
My wife is 3 years older than I, she has a college education and is a school teacher, I have a HS diploma and mechanic's school and police academy, but no college degree. I was raised on a farm and we still raise livestock, though we don't farm crops anymore. I drive a school bus for supplemental income as well as our share of the livestock sales. My BIL is the same way-- he's 3 years younger than his wife (my wife's sister) and her brother is about 3 years younger than his wife. Both the wives have college degrees and both the guys don't, like me. Her sister's husband farms in Indiana and drives a truck, she was a 4H county agent for years and now works at JoAnns fabrics, and was teaching at a church daycare til this year. Semi-retired now. My wife's brother is a truck driver and mechanic, like his Dad. His wife is a dispatcher and secretary at the trucking company he drives for. My MIL was a school teacher, she had a college education, my FIL was in WW2 in the Army Air Corps and was a flight engineer and mechanic. He never went to college, either. Neither of my parents went to college-- Dad farmed and then got a good paying job at a nuclear power plant, mom worked at the hospital ER as night admissions receptionist and bookkeeper, when she worked. She stayed home a lot too, but never did much around the house. I did most of the cooking and cleaning, til I was old enough to start running tractors and equipment on the farm. She went back to work for aJCPenney catalog store... Dad's folks worked at the refineries in Baytown, TX during WW2, refining aviation gasoline. After the war they ran a motor court (motel basically) for my great grandfather and Grandpa was a travelling salesman filling cigarette vending machines, among other jobs he had. They eventually came back to the farm and started farming in the mid-50's when my great granddad retired. Grandpa and Grandma both worked on the farm and eventually bought a second farm. My other grandparents got married in the 30's when he was 25 and she was 14. Just how things were done back then in deep rural East Texas. He worked in the oilfields and pipeline and sonograph crews, she kept home and raised the kids. Later he worked for a steel mill and she was a candystriper at the hospital. Their son went to college, my mom got married out of high school. Just how it was done then...
I raised my daughter to do whatever she wants; she can be a career professional if she likes, or get married and stay at home. Her choice. Hopefully at some point she and whomever she ends up with will have some interest in the farms, but we'll see... we're small so it's hardly a full time job... LOL:)
Yeah tellers were either male or female, a mix, in my lifetime (young end of boomer and life experience pure Gen-X) but I'm still old enough to remember when airline flight attendants were pretty much always female. "Stewardesses" lol.
Same, but times were tough and the bank was around the corner. I went dressed as a female, wig, makeover, nylons, high heels, spoke in a low voice, and got the job. The manager was very welcoming, and even gave me a promotion. Eventually I confessed, and to my surprise, he knew. He said that he was a progressive thinker, and even complimented me on my wardrobe. This gave me confidence to apply to a large department store, makeup section, and got hired. I ended up marrying one of the girls after she secretly found out, but was accepting. I am so happy for gen z that is able to express themselves and be out on the streets turning heads.
@garystar1592 what year was this. How didn't he know if you spoke in a men's voice and didn't make it higher. I only pass when I speak in a high voice
My mother worked for a major utility as an accountant. It was standard policy for women to leave when they got married. This was 1948.
It's nice for being descriptive rather than prescriptive, and for presenting a variety of views. Interesting snapshot of a point along an arc of progress. Nice editing, too.
Ahhh, the good 'ol days
Exactly. I missed the 1970’s
did you just tune out during the part about women or are you dogwhistling rn
When I was a kid, a guy that didn't make a huge amount of money could still afford to get a house for his family and a car on a single income. When it became a thing for women to work outside the home, many women did. Sadly due to opportunistic corporate greed and consumerism, and the increased cost of living, the husband and wife had no choice but to work full-time jobs to support their families. Now it's almost impossible to even do that any longer.
As a young woman in 1968 when I was applying for law school admission, my undergraduate faculty advisor demanded that I visit the university psychologist for a "brief evaluation" before he'd give me a recommendation -- this despite that I was getting my BA in 3 -- not the usual 4 years --with a double major and was graduating Phi Beta Kappa in the top 5% of my class of over 1100 graduates. He urged that i use my history and political science majors to become a middle or high school teacher. He said to me point blank, "Why on earth would a young woman want to go into such a masculine profession as the law?" (I never did get a letter of recommendation from him though I did get admission to law school anyway, graduated (in 1971), passed the Bar Exam for two states, and have been practicing law now for more than 50 years.)
You can be my paralegal.
Oh no I bet your scarred for life.
what a lovely story about a woman aiming for the scummiest job, expecting help from a man, and complaining about it all for 56 years
@@rumfordc Well, it's not something you easily forget (or forgive). The mere thought of that two-faced humanoid turd still peeves me. I didn't like him then and I don't like whatever is left of him now. May his ghost roam the earth like that of Jacob Marley. At least whenever I get requests for $$ donations to the University, I get great satisfaction in tossing it into the trash. By the way, law is not always a scummy job. My job is a problem solver -- even better when I help someone to avoid a problem. I describe myself like a military EOD sapper: trekking through a business plan or proposal looking for the hidden legal land mines. [No, I was never in the military; I was only an "Army brat," but it rubs off on you when you grow up in that environment.]
@@WelshRabbit 🤬 that guy. Thank you for sharing and bucking the system!
That opening music and those sweaty fit men had me thinking this was a very different sort of film. O_o
Edit: Having finished it the video and it’s actually really surprisingly good. Especially for the time.
This soundtrack is bangin
First tune czcams.com/video/X4In0fZA1Pg/video.html
The lady in green at the 8 minute mark… naming all those tasks her “man” helps with.. what masculine tasks around the house does she perform? Take out the trash? Mow the lawn? Paint huge house? Fix the hardware appliances that break down? Reverse everything on her and see what she says or expects.
She would be comfortable in today’s society for sure.
Ill bet if just the audio was heard by some people today they'd have a hard time guessing the year of production.
1971.
6:59 says it PERFECTLY!!!!!❤👏👍
6:44 "and most of the economic rights" yeah because this is '71 and they weren't allowed to have bank accounts as women in their own name until 1974 with the Equal Credit Opportunity Act.
My mother, both grandmothers, aunts,and great-grandmother had bank accounts since their youths. There was no law against a woman having her own money.
They often were not able to obtain credit cards as a protection against accumulating more debt which they could not payback.
11:22 *"They want all the rights of a man, and all the privileges of being a woman"* - this is still true.
My high school and college girlfriends didn't see this. Think in all that time I had dinner cooked for me once. I've wondered if having moms who worked outside the home led guys to be more aware of changing gender roles at the time and more accepting of these changes...
Capitalism dissolves all things. The market demands everybody engage in wage-labor and nobody remain outside the system.
@@randbarrett8706 wage and tax slaves... slaves to consumerism. Why so many people are rebelling and going "off the grid" now...
I was raised on the farm, but I saw through all the garbage and hype and the "get big or get out" mentality, and refused to get into the rat race... I'm the type the gubmint hates... My time is my own, live in a $60,000 mobile home and drive a 20 year old used car, BUT everything is paid for and we don't pay taxes out the @ss... I drive a school bus and raise cattle and my wife teaches school. We're out of debt and loving it. We go where we want and do what we want and live a nice life. My sister and BIL are in the rat race; both worked in the school system together made well over twice what my wife and I make, and they're too busy and too broke to go anywhere or buy a McDonald's once a week... two new vehicles in the driveway of their big brick home in town, big payments and big mortgage and big taxes eat it all... they can keep it LOL:)
From the same people who brought you "What to do on a Date" and "Are You Ready for Marriage?"
And "Without 'tappa-tappa-tappa' we'd have communism!"
1:12 there used to be a yellow between red to green? Weird
Like the UK does. Saw it there and still believe it's a good idea.
I thought the same thing but I've never seen it here in the states, only in Europe. It's a throwback to the times when most cars were manual shift and you get your car into gear when the light goes yellow. before green.
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Ps: When in a highly threatening situation, like a police job, which would you be more relieved to see come running as your backup in a bar-fight you have to break up… Would you prefer a female officer or a male officer?
Neither is legally obligated to protect you. ACAB
I would want a down-to-earth , sane, stable person able to comport themselves properly .
Too many men in law enforcement are violent , below average IQ , mouth breathers who resort to violence or stereotypes too easily.
That being said, a woman police officer isn't necessarily more stable & intelligent ....although it's more likely.
I would want someone intelligent, emotionally stable, non-prejudicial & confident.
I do like these old educational films. I was just a crazy 🤪 kid.
Years ago, I was at colonial Williamsburg. I saw some big, burly male historical interpreters sitting around the blacksmith shop knitting. Yes, knitting. I asked them about this, and they said until the industrial age, men did most of the knitting because it didn't take much fine motor control, and everyone kept their hands busy, even a blacksmith waiting for a fuel delivery. Women, they explained, were more likely to do lace and lattice work, because that takes fine motor skills. Turns out, that's true, men did most knitting in most societies since forever. Yet now, knitting is 'women's work.'
Still today among some native tribes in Africa and Asia men do the knitting
Whilst I agree that anyone should be able to pursue anything they want to do there's something to be said about knowing your role as both a man and woman.
We're different for a reason.
Perhaps you can explain why men are born with nipples? What's their function? I've been conditioned to think there are two genders, but biology and human development does explain why there are different degrees of sex and gender across the spectrum.
ERA all the way! Really good film. I wish I had more opportunities to get into the trades at an earlier age, but here I am 50 something and went from waitress in high school to the computer industry, TV, radio & film to 15 years working in the trades and today I am driving a truck! My mother was a secretary and raised 4 children. Both my grandmothers worked in a factory before and after the war!
God ordained purposes for Men and purposes for women. Neither is more important than. However, pride has completely disrupted God’s plan for society.
@@BR-bj3ot What? Sorry, I'm not buying your "Invisible Sky God" story and would much rather have "free will".
so do you have any kids? that is about the only thing one can say is the meaning of life. to multiply. it's the meaning of all life from virus to human life
@@ronblack7870 Sadly, I am unable to have children but I am helping my younger siblings (who I helped my parents raise) raise their children financially, emotionally and otherwise. Being a mother certainly isn't the only meaning of life! I'm an aunt, a sister, a daughter as well as a caregiver on top of my f-t job.
Screw the ERA. Bunch of bra burners.
Suprised CZcams didn't call this hate speech.
Lol
Are kids that thin today? I think not.
My pronouns are " sane" and "rational".
Are you certain? They sound to me like it might be "douche" and "neanderthal".😂
People act as if “gender ideology” is new but it has been around for a long time
Envision the world you would like to live in and every day take steps and do what you can to make that vision a reality. Lead by example and do the best you can. We may not see it happen in our lifetime but the individuals make the difference over time. When we think of the things we miss from the past chances are the people who made that possible didn’t get to live to see the world they created. Never give up for a better future for those who come after us.
This would a great one for Rifftrax or the revived MST3K!
they do fake stuff not the truth...(insert smiley face!)
@@11secghia They'd have no problem with this, then! Even if that were the case.
We've lost our easy. Satan has come to control America
Oh, no.....Satanic Panic 2.0
😂😂😂😂
Run for the hills!!!! Save yourself!!!!
Great casting, using the plain looking woman with the deep voice and " handsome" features to play the part of the woman who wants to earn like men do. This movie teaches good real world lessons about life, such as women wanting most to get married, have children and take care of the at home needs of her family, but that this only happens to pretty girls who walk and talk like a proper woman, but ugly women have to work to support themselves, because no man with looks and a good job will settle for a hand grenade, but if an ugly woman can earn enough, she can find a husband too, he will just be the kind of man who cant support himself, or a family, but they can change the babies diapers and vacuum the floors, wash the dishes and do laundry while his wife is at work, earning money to support her family.
Dudes drove Chevelle 454s and Chicks drove a VW. The way it should be. lol
Have we learned from these questions? I wonder.
Play to your strengths.
Amazing how sociologists kept missing the point for decades.
Like, bro, you just low key admitted that men have always been hammer-swinging ditch-digging field-plowing worker bees and women have been the planners, general managers and engineers of human civilization for a quarter million years... and then follow up with "But nowadays, girls go to high school, run businesses and engage in politics."
Like WHAT??? 20,000 years ago your women were scolding you for being a crappy hunter and screaming "Give me something to work with you lazy bastard!" in denisovan; you'd bring a woman a dead elk and she'd make 50 different things out of it by the end of the month and then teach your kids how to chip axe heads out of stone in her spare time. Fast forward a couple thousand years and now we're shook that they want to be engineers and politicians again? They haven't literally ALWAYS BEEN that for as long as we've been human?
This was Brilliant!
Great video.
10:37 "you do your part and i do my part."
What's wrong with that?
If it is something that both parties (genuinely) agree on? Nothing. It becomes a problem when a person is told they have no choice but to take on a specific role based solely on their gender. To put it in more direct, practical terms. If a man tells a woman that she has to stay at home and pop out babies and has no option to do anything else, that is wrong and there is no rational, logical excuse for it.
Some people should Not go to College just to get a degree in something! The movie ( Caddy Shack) comes to mind!
" The world needs ditch diggers also Danny"! I went to the military for radio repairman! Did a Tech school for Computer Graphics! Last 29 years working in the Tades as a Plumber! 90 percent of work is New Housing! Freaking Love It! HANDS ON !
It's only a problem if you take away people's choice.
Still, they’re pairing off, just as they’ve been doing since cave days.
Nothing is ever new.
Narrator's voice sounds a bit like Peter Graves.
Great to see this society with no tattoos....
Um. Another WTF moment in humanity’s near future. Well, like now, actually. “Conflict of roles” what BS.
Suzuki A100?
Looks like it’s got a Honda badge on it in one of the closing shots.
Honda Super 90
Weird
they only had males and females back in the '70s?
huh.......
16:59 Even back then, the nonbinary existed. We always have.
@@CascadiarchLiterally never existed because it’s a fake thing.
We always only had males and females since the dawn of time.
Anything else is science fiction.
Thankfully, those queers at Stonewall stood up to the police who were abusing them!
The world keeps changing, we can’t stop that.
@@michaelmorrissey1052 thank 👍goodness!
I think certain things are like a pendulum. It swings one way, people push back, and it swings the other. A movement back to traditional gender roles is upcoming...
@@archlich4489 Wishful thinking by a bigot.
okay libshits
He isn't a bigot for thinking that.
Four minutes till the first word - sure took a long time to get going!
"A girl is a girl". Ah, yes, but what is a woman? (Supreme Court Justice can't answer the questionn.)
Good times are now gone, only stupid woke-ness now
Oh boy this one will definitely melt some snowflakes LOL:) How 'bout we just be people, be ourselves?? That was the general idea of this film, which was pretty progressive for 1971 when it was made, the year I was born LOL:)
7:59 The Oscars go to…
More like 8:19 !
@@jaminova_1969
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I don’t oven know what we are today
13:20 simply false, I love being told what to do by a taller woman
150 genders or just a 2
binary
FACT IS BROADS ARE GETTIN OUTTA LINE HEAH
When my wife gets outta line I give her the back of my hand.
What happened to women are women and men are men? Now we have LGBTQ++++
Queers have existed in every culture since time began.
How does that interfere in your life?
Yes it's made up bs
@@stephenmulholland4868 whine more
We’ve always had LGBT+; you just didn’t notice - mostly because we made it dangerous for them to reveal their true selves.
It's interesting to see these old social conditioning films disguised as "education". It's interesting to see where some of the bigotry and stereotypes of today are rooted.
No one cared about trans till they started pushing it on kids.
And it's equally interesting seeing all the propagandized youth of that time being the old people in these comments spamming their "haha stuff like this would get you cancelled nowadays 😂" posts.
Yes, frequently "educational" videos of the past show how outdated ideas used to be & how things have changed.
When I was growing up, we weren't allowed to listen to music, dance, or play (non-gambling) card games at our church---even youth group; because there was ONE member who believed those things were evil. This was a normal church .
Now, there are only extreme cults who would follow that sort of extremism.
Cue the left’s outrage!!!
Was just thinking that. How long till they cancel this video? Lol.
@@blueringedoctopus4778 Um. Are we watching the same film? Bc I - a lefty- see it as an archive of human constructions to keep freedom from all. It is all outdated and I have no rage over it. ✌️
its fairly even handed as educational films go
Why are rightys so easily triggered these days?
@@nelsaf365 mmmk.
XY - XX but dont miss one! You go down!!
Boomers: The REAL gen z.
Actually, they were the generation who went to Vietnam, came home, went to work and raised GenX. Try crying in front of a combat vet because some kid was bullying you or stole your bike!
@@jaminova_1969 The "Baby Boomer" generation wasn't nearly as monolithic as you describe. There were certainly some very "traditional", very socially conservative folks in that generation who did indeed willingly enlist to go to Vietnam and did indeed carry forward the methods of their parents generation. There is no doubt that there was quite a bit of overlap just as there is overlap with every generation and its predecessor.
With that being said. The 1960's counter-culture movement (hippies, mods, etc) also came from that generation. A lot of the very same things that younger generations are accused of and denigrated for nowadays very much were present (and even the norm) for 1950's and 60's youth culture. Back in those days, younger men and women were kicking off significant social change. They were fighting for the civil rights movement, the women's liberation movement, and even for a version of masculinity that allowed for more basic, healthy levels of empathy, compassion, and sensitivity.
The "Baby Boomer" generation was revolutionary in a lot of ways. It is the generation that broke down a lot of the barbaric, backwards barriers and they are still fighting that fight to this day. You may not remember it or even want to acknowledge it but it cannot be denied with any kind of intellectual honesty.
@@ringneck7500 Considering that "boomers" are still doing the majority of the damage since they tend to clutch desperately to their political positions, I am not really sure I can agree with your take.
@@ringneck7500 You wouldn't be writing here or complaining on social media on ur phone if not for gen x creating the technology that makes it possible.
@@jaminova_1969 illegally invaded a sovereign country, spread degeneracy and bred bad behavior. HEROES!
A Woman’s place is at home to raise a family and the man should be out working to bring home the paycheck. That’s what’s wrong with today’s society. We need to stick to family tradition. Today’s problem is single mothers are out there without husbands to take care of family. I blame on the 1960’s feminism movement. Today’s society has gone down the drain.
What an incredible impersonation of a knuckle-dragging mouth breather whose grandchildren don't want to spend time with him.
You couldn't pay me enough to have a shitty marriage like that. I've seen what it does to you old clowns after a couple decades of it. I'll take an equitable life partner thank you very much.
It's always was in the pit. Vaulting from one boiling cauldron to another. Might as well just mind your own business somewhere in the outbacks, to be honest. That seems like the better choice
So you think women should be treated like second class citizens and slaves at home?
That's very antediluvian thinking. There's nothing wrong with what you described if that's what both people want but nowadays, it's financially impractical for most couples to provide all the needs of their family on one paycheck. It's also essential that women have choices in their long term goals for life. For some folks, the woman is the main breadwinner and the husband stays home. Most modern men love having an active role in day-to-day child rearing. Essentially, everyone must have choices in order to feel fulfilled and happy.
@@sugarplum5824nowadays we live in a mixed upworld.
Glad to see that we have moved way past this!
Maybe We need to put the “obey” back into the wedding vows. that’s the problem with the today’s marriages.
Women initiate divorce in 80% of cases. Most likely due to their infantile beliefs that they are princesses.
By all means, you can vow to obey your wife.
Laughs in 2024 non binary
There’s only two sexes male and female. Woman is a mature female human being nothing more. That’s it. End of story.
Made up.
@@rifleshooterchannel208 so
@@NukaChloe76 “So” meaning what, exactly?
@@rifleshooterchannel208 so
This video seems weird in todays upside down world!
MALES FORGOT HOW TO BE A "MAN" DOESN'T WANT TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR HIS ; ACTIONS, DUTIES, RESPONSIBILITIES.
The "experts" say...
What is a woman?
One of these days, when they think you’re ready, your parents will sit down and have that talk with you.🙂👍
🙄
If you have a vigina you're a woman
@@Acer_Maximinusa mature female human being. That’s it nothing more.
«... a miserable little pile of secrets. But enough talk… Have at you!»
You?
Working title... "how to be a fruit"
Slow starting.
Is there a reason we're starting with the guy on a motorcycle? Jesus embarrassed that a member of my profession made this even if it was 1971. This isn't how me and my friends thought about young men and women even then...
I think the reason was to surprise everyone when it was revealed that it was actually a gay woman on the motorcycle.
@martyspargur5281 how do you know she is gay?
Trump 24
Yes, for prison as that's where he's going.
And feminist triggers in 5…. 4…3…2…1.
Feminist or MAGA skank, you’re still not getting laid Trumpscab
good grief what a bunch of nonsense
Trump Vance 2024
Hard Pass! Kamala-Walz 2024-2032!
At least you admit they are backward-looking. The rest of us are done with that convicted rapist felon, and appalled at the eyeliner wearing, couch-****ing weirdo he picked for his VP.
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The good old days before all this trans/dozens of genders nonsense. Better, saner times.
And motorcycles had kick starters.
What a whiner. Cry harder.
Mmm. Nah. It was hidden. Been that way.
@@hobonickeland carbs!
trans people have existed for as long as humans have, but for a majority of recorded history, they were just classified as crazy people.