The Curious Case Of Jesse Lingard
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- čas přidán 29. 06. 2024
- Jesse Lingard is a very curious case. For the longest time, many thought of him as an up and coming talent, even when he was fast approaching 30.
Where to next for him?
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Ain't no way my man uploaded two days in a row🔥
Now he gonna upload in three days in a row for Klopp leaving liverpool
Let's hope this won't be the last time😁
@@Avorikadont remind me of that :(
This as consistent he's ever been😭
Probably gonna upload tomorrow too, the Klopp thing hits hard momma
I really think Lingard should go to Luton for the rest of the season. Look what it’s done for Ross Barkley and Andros Townsend. Rob Edwards is a brilliant man manager who would definitely get the best out of Lingard. He could help keep Luton up if he finds his feet like he did at West Ham
Will he for under 6 figures a week. I bet they have already tried.
He’s been fishing around Saudi and Barcelona, he wants a stupid wage from some desperate team that doesn’t know he’s actually shite haha
his wages are too much for luton to afford
Amazing how players are too greedy to take a pay cut when they are no longer in their prime.
My thing with Lingard is this. He's been used to astronomical wages for years but is clearly not worth those numbers now. Who is advising this lad? Not even the Saudis are trying to pay him that kind of money. He doesn't bring anything to a team to justify his weekly asking price.
He was a perfect fit at West Ham, but he thought he was too big time for the hammers. Sat a whole season on the bench coz he's not starting over Fernandes, then showed up at Forest overweight, to be outshone by Gibbs-White & Brennan Johnson.
Still don't understand why he didn't stay.
@@StillAwesome21 The salary package offered did not match United's
So he was brilliant at the Hammers but wasn't started over Fernandes? in his last season there. Er.. OK.
United would not sell. The issue wasn't salary package. Of course, when the ManU contract ran out, Forrest offered more than what West Ham did.
@@drex5160 We don't know that. What we do know is ManU did not want to sell for less than 30 million pounds, which West Ham could not pay.
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@calc1657 If Jesse really wanted to return to london, it would have happened. Pretty sure United could have struck a deal especially since it was his last year, so they'd be losing him for nothing the next summer.
Had he signed with West Ham, Lingard could have transformed the narrative of his career. Instead, in a money move, he went to Forest. He took more money up front, but is now losing more money on the back end of career. At some point, the player has to take responsibility for his career.
Yeah it's always gonna be a what if moment. I agree with you, should have taken pay cut and went to west ham. Loved watching him when he was on loan there, moyes would have got the most out of him.
Yea man Jesse was supposed to be on a upward trajectory after his loan spell at west ham obviously United didn’t put him up for sell but I personally believe Lingard maybe looked at it like “ok I’ve shaken the rust off, had some good performances at west ham, now the footballing public will respect me again and I can carry on” not knowing him not signing back with west ham would dent his career I mean he was started to get selected for England again, I even believe he should’ve been apart of the euro squad, but I’m hoping lingard finds a club soon
Yes and no, he was 29, most football players opt for the last big contract at that point.
i'd say by him setting up his outside interest he is soawing up his career after football. Its paying off. he doesn't need the Forest money.
I heard that the salary he was supposed to get from Forest $110,000 was actually 90,000
Lingard absolutely should have stayed at West Ham. That was the perfect opportunity to have a team on the rise built around him (amongst others), at the perfect age. You know the Hammers would have cherished a player like him, celebrations and all. Good luck to him & his family. Would love to see him find his way into punditry or something
Considering the timing, I wouldn't be surprised to see Lingard in an MLS team by the end of January. He would fit the US lifestyle perfectly.
He's been hinting around about it. I heard him mention it in one of his last interviews.
When talking about van Gaal giving young players their shot, let's not forget about Thomas Müller. He had a starting spot at Bayern at the age of 20 with van Gaal literally saying "Müller plays every time" in an interview. He played all 34 league games in his second season in the first team.
His mindset is most probably "I have worked hard every day for years, Im a bit frustrated with consistency, so Im semi chilling"
It's gonna be a busy week for you Tinashe!
- Leverkusen yesterday
- Lingard today
- And today Klopp announced he's stepping down as Liverpool's manager at the end of the season
So definitely you're gonna make a video on Klopp, right?
5:52 That's not why people say that at all. People call him a *"top young prospect"* as a meme because commentators kept saying that for years as an excuse for Man Utd players like him, Rashford and Pogba as they would continually fail and disappoint year after year.
Him, Rasford and Sancho. what a trio
See any pattern?
Sancho, Rashford, Morrison, Lingard, Martial, Greenwood, Pogba...
Meh
@@merasmussen82all black? Have plenty of amazing black ballers.
@@ImperialAssassi4U Agree with you. Jude Bellingham for example. All the men that I mentioned were brought up without a father - with the exception of Martial. Can't take discipline from a manager. They are all into the UK drill rap scene and the culture that accompanies it. Too much money at a young age not enough discipline. We can see the results. United need to vet new signings more carefully in terms of mentality, ethics, outlook.
@@merasmussen82I'm black, and that's one solid assessment 👌
Tinashe, you're right, Jesse has achieved more than most footballers, but his clear talent and huge unfulfilled potential see him branded a failure. Despite his flaws, some better management at his clubs and by his agent could have made a difference. I hope he finds happiness in or out of football!
The chapters of this are: introduction and Leverkusen never losin🤔
Damn he must bereally proud and wants us to remember his joke about "Neverlosen"😭
aint no way Lingard is considered a 'football icon'
Dont diss lingardinho man . He greatest football player of all time acording to internet
Thanks for covering these players from every angle. And you manage to get your point across without boring us to tears. Cheers!
his best times,prime as we call it was that loan to west ham....his United career never take off
That West Ham loan was pure magic.
7 goals in 7 games?!?? was that right?
i refuse to be gaslit into thinking this guy was anywhere near the levels dele showed. i also refuse to be gaslit into thinking he was good. he might've been, but i just haven't seen it.
Right, this guy is delusional. He shows his bias at 6:21 because all these pundits were essentially correct, you shouldn't be dancing around dabbing with pogba and acting a fool when you're losing week in and week out.
I just refuse to think hes was good.
He wasnt. He had around one good year in his entire career.
Great 2 videos in less than 24 hours! Cheers bro, hope you're good!
Love the consistency 🔥❤
One of the biggest madness of this generation is comparing Lingard with Iniesta
two football iconic videos in a row? my lunch has never been better
Am I the only one who misses football from 2006 to 2012? what a time to be a football fan😢🫡
you're lame
media deliberately likes to antagonise people. They deliberately bring pundits on who are controversial to create debate and drama. To create division. Football has lost its soul.
I love Football and I don't see the need to be negative and scrutinise everything. We are all ''experts'' apparently yet have never managed or played football at this level
It's hard to be a young player at Man United ever since 2010, the social media constantly wait for their chance to bury them. I would say any player from Man United youth team able to become world class in this era should deserve First Medal of Honor or something like that 😂
Agreed, it's a lot of expectation.
Good coverage of a young budding talent!
Just needs time 😂
Hahahahhaha haha - commitment to the meme
when i hear 'what's up everybody I'm Tinashe', i immediately hit subscribe, keep working homeboy!
Great video. Have you done one on Solskjaer's Utd btw? From the perspectivce of the little time that has passed?
Lovely content mukoma Tinashe
Problem is he’s more an influencer than a footballer and doesn’t take it seriously
Nah people like you are the problem. Dude's goofy on social media, so what. He made a good career out of honestly mid talent and his managers love him. Probably a better professional than you are.
@@firmanimad explain how he doesn't have a club then
It's odd that he hasn't secured himself a new club, certainly at his age. I can only assume that he is still considering himself to be a much bigger talent than the evidence shows and worthy of a much higher salary than anyone is willing to give him. If he ends up taking a whole season out there may be no way back to a club of a reasonably big stature.
Rumours been going around he is princing himself out of a move for many clubs interested, while at the same time rejecting the Saudi who can pay what he wants, im sure he would have a place in most mid or lower table teams but...
That's not rumors my friend, his wage demand is so ridiculous that even Al whatefack pull out of the deal after listening to his wage demand.
And there you have it, two uploads in two days.
'Morrison, Pogba and Lingard'......says it all really!
Dude please try to upload 3 videos a week 😂😂 I love watching your videos while cooking 🤦♂️
Excellent research
Müller was also put into the first team under van Gaal if i remember correctly
I bought him in fpl once westham signed him for me his days at westham was such a vivid dream
I didn't expect that much from Lingard. He was going to be another Darren Fletcher, Wes Brown, Danny Wellbeck, John O'Shea kind of player who came out of the academy and was very useful to the first team as a squad player but ultimately if he wanted to be a first team guy he'd have to leave and that's kind of what he was. When people show that picture of Pogba, Morrison and Lingard and say "Ravel Morrsion was so good he was considered the best of these three" I always thought okay one of those guys won a world cup and broke the world record transfer fee so I get that but why are we acting like Morrison being projected to be better than Lingard is a big deal?
Please don't put Darren Fletcher in that group.
@@Mopark25 Hang on Fletcher is the guy that annoys you? Are you a real United fan? 😂 Fletcher was the most important of the players I mentioned by far. Fergie's greatest trick in the big games was to drop a first team player for a guy like Fletcher and tell him to stick to the other teams best player like glue and make it a 10 v 10 game without the other teams best player instead of 11 v 11. Fletcher was vital in the big games. Even after Fletcher left he did this with Park and Anderson. It's why Scholes was on the bench for back to back champions league finals against Barcelona. Because you had to kick one out in the big games for one of Fergie's hunters.
I think he's agreeing with you on Fletcher being vital to big games and that's why he said not to put him in that group. I hope so, at least. Him missing the 2009 final arguably cost us. No way Barcelona have that much control with Fletcher and Park both chasing them down.
That said, if he IS pro-Fletcher, should also be pro Brown. Wes Brown was absolutely top class and without injuries would have started.
Also, anyone remember O'Shea's chip against Arsenal? One insane moment. Goddamn, Fergie was a titan at getting a tune out of average players by playing to their strengths.@@SonnyK248
@@pinealdreams1064 Fletcher was the best defensive midfielder playing along Scholes we had for the road to that 2008 Champions league win. He used to bench Carrick until he started getting injuries.
Morri who?
After bellingham, lingardinho have the most potential among next batch of young, up and coming English talent. One to keep a lookout for in 2026 World Cup
I think Lingard’s best move at this point might actually be MLS. He can definitely shine in a league that is competitive, but not elite. He’d be the star at any MLS team he moves to, and I’m sure the lifestyle in the US would fit him well. Not sure we’d see him go to an unglamorous city like Cincinnati or Salt Lake or whatever, but I could see him doing well at LA Galaxy, Orlando City, Atlanta United, or a club like that. NYCFC will start to be a big destination for players in Lingard’s position too I think, but only once they build that stadium in Queens, since no one wants to come to the league to play in a ballpark.
Glad see back him in end ,
I see what you did there with the tiltle.
People still think he‘s a great talent that someday will break through, but the fact that he‘s much older than people think, maked him a football benjamin button
This guy needs to get more hands on his production and drop content everyday 🇰🇪😭
Lingard, Sancho, Pogba, Martial, Rashford are the root of MU's trouble now.
love the lingard video
Bro commented as soon as the video was posted
I'm glad Jesse spoke out about the shit united are in.
When people talk about how the Glazers aren't shit because "United spend money", it just shows how misinformed they are.
When we look at the training facilities, the youth setup etc, it shows how much the club has been neglected over these past couple of years.
They haven't put a single penny into the club, and they didn't even buy the club with their own money.
What a cancer to the club they have been.
Man suffered from not going to WestHam. I'll never understand that choice. Forrest were never going to have the possession to showcase his talents...
For English media saying he is still a young prospect
He was a perfect fit at West Ham, but Man United did not let that happen.
I'm a Man United fan and that's the truth.
He should come to play in a Kenyan team. We dont have much money for him but he will be very famous
Bro please I need a vid on Barca we conceded in the first mins of every match we are going trophyless this season and Xavi has said if he does not win a trophy he will leave. I don’t know what is going on at my club I need therapy. You are a United fan u are already checked into an insane asylum and I feel like I will be there by the end of this season.😢😢😢
You’re a plastic. Not a real fan. Just get on with it.
2 days in a row? no way
get your popcorn ready folks 🍿
You should make a video on lyon, schalke, ajax, basel flopping in recent years
Yeah that seems like a great way to interest people.
One team is not like the others:
its schalke, schalke sucking at football is not unusual its the norm
That klopp video gonna hit
imagine if a ninja got a low taper fade 🔥
I always said I would love to see an Amazon doc on Man United lol
please do video about vfb stuttgart
with lingard his won a European title, three domestic titles and made contributions in winning those trophies also made boat load of money to sit him and his families for life.
Video on Klopp leaving Liverpool next?
My second favourite football content creator ❤ sorry Mark goldbridge exists but everything you do is amazing
I've said this many times, and I'll say it again. Time proved Mourinho and Ronaldo right.
Jesse is a good lad. All the best to him and the rest of his career.
Chicharito up next? His return to chivas should be 🔥
My take on Lingard...
As a footballer i totally rate him. Not only decent on the ball but his movement off the ball creates lots of space for others.
As a person he is most likely a cool, nice lad.
Its the social media, clothing range and J Lings celebration and dabbing that irks people.
I don't understand how the football wage isnt enough to satisfy him.
Id like to see Jesse make a come back a fulfill his great talent. Look back with few regrets. Back to basics and he'd get a decent club.
brilliant video and i completely agree. he was never treated fairly by the world and always blamed for united's shortcomings.
Since when is the world fair?
He isnt good. Shown the door
I picked Jesse Lingard for my fantasy team the Forest year, hoping I made a clever pick. But that didn't work out. I still like him though, I hope he find a club and gets playing again. Also waiting for some new player biographies to spill some Man Utd dirt!
The Glazers run Man Utd like dictators which is ironic considering they were about to be bought by an authoritarian country.
I guess Leverkusen are never losing
Please do a video about klopp
Thomas Müller also with Bayern, in regards to Van Gaal.
That picture is a blessing and a curse
We need him back at England!🏴
People thinks he should have continued at West Ham. Hard to take care of his siblings, and his mother who suffers from various mental conditions, in Manchester when signed to London club.
You have to make a video about PSV EINDHOVEN they are cooking this season they only lost 2 points this whole season they drew won game and won 17 matches in a row in the eredivisie
Bruh I LOVED lingard! And I'm a city fan. He should have went to West ham permanently
You’re a foreign plastic not a Man City fan.
You know these sites that have catchy headlines and when you click on their article you find them repeating that same headline like twice then some filler bullshit before they get to the point which is more often than not just a sentence or less long?
This is what this channel has been feeling like for a while now.
When did it become a content mill?
I hope he keep spirit to get in shape, for 31 y.o hes in good shape
lingard didnt stay at man utd because ole wanted him to, but because ronaldo came. he said he was willing to fight for his place. the only time lingard was restricted to leave was when greenwood had his case.
Gotta make a vid about klopp
I could see lingard do well in Italy for some reason.
Had he left Man United and went to Newcastle in 2015 then he would have been an good player
I don't know man I rather have Lingard than Anthony at this point.
Wet rot you can scrape away and treat. Dry rot goes deep, and destroys the very core. The Glazers are dry rot.
He should have always returned to West Han after his contract at United ended. He would have been starting in a team competing in Europe with a fan base that really appreciated him during his loan spell. Instead he went to Forrest for some extra money and completely blew it.
I always thought Lingard was a victim of ciming through the Man Utd system. Had he come up and produced like he did with a team like Aston Villa or West Ham he would have been treasured.
After his loan spell at West Ham , i was desperate for him to come to Newcastle, and at the time , i was furious with Man U that the deal broke down!
Then when i saw him play for Forrest at the start of last season , i was like " wow , we dodged a bullet there 😂"
Lingard got greedy and took the money option at Forest instead of a club which he has done well in, West Ham. If he joined them, he would have won the Europa Conference League instead of getting relegated. Ole also contributed to Lingard's downfall by insisting on keeping him at Utd but didn't play him.
You have to make a video about klopp. You just have to.
Lingard is more concerned about how he looks on social media, than how he looks on the pitch
So like Paul Pogba
@@thetruth4654exactly like him! All about the newest haircut
He's part of the generation of "Instagrammers who play football", and yeah Pogba was a terrible influence. I remember the first time I saw Jesse do the dab celebration... And I knew.
Cutting off Ryan Tunnicliffe from the FA Youth Team picture is a disgrace!
He was phenomenal for "Checks Notes" Luton...
No that's not true . He thought he was only on loan to West Ham. This guy is correct Ollie and the Glazers did not want to sell. Ollie kept stringing him along telling him he was going to be played and he wasn't. He tried to leave and go to New Castle and that deal was blocked by the Glazers.
Should come do MLS. Can dance be mediocre but still ball
Who can forget lingardinho. He should have won awards for that name alone
He was mad good at West Ham
@footballiconic uploading twice in two days!!!!!!!??? UNHEARD-OF.... The rent must be due
I wonder why a promotion chasing championship club hasnt signed him. He would obviously be good at that and epl level.
He's a great example of everything what not to do, he's been given great natural talent and wastes it completely, once he got a big pay check he thought he was Ronaldo, all he is is an Instagram gangsta, there's a good reason nobody wants him and it ain't nothing to do with talent or ability..... its his attitude. Sancho, Rashford, Greenwood, Pogba all the same, Instagram Gangstas. I only hope ETH has the balls to get rid of Rashford asap.
Sign players who are hungry and care about football rather than they're Instagram accounts please 🙏
His form peaked in 2018. I would sell him.
Lingard is still a very young player and will soon find a team which matches his talent.
Lingards issue was that he loved Manchester and really wanted to play there but Manchester were and still are a total mess of a club, it's really no secret that the club have more or less stagnated since Sir Alex Furgeson, talented players like Lingard needed a better infrastructure around them to thrive, as you say, under Sir Alex, he would have done great.
But the good thing is, he financially secured his future with various business ventures outside of Football so he's fine overall.
"as you say, under Sir Alex, he would have done great"
No he wouldnt. He would have gone a similar route. His talent isnt much more than what already is. People act like he was ever good enough for the worlds elite when in fact he was never more than "Above average" for exactly a SINGLE year in his career.
Im just saying: Anderson and Ravel Morrison.
Even Diego Forlan flopped under Fergie. Fergie is a legend, but not everything he touched turned into gold. And he couldnt bring every wonderkid to its potential and he certainly couldnt bring a guy like Lingard to anything near world class level.