How did Mega Optic Blast Change in Marvel vs Capcom 2? Comparison Guide Video
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I never noticed that!
Good Call Out!
CotA is the best one by Far!!
I LOVE how ALL the Xmen characters make an X with their hands or arms for their supers including Cyclops.
I don't think the villains do it, I think it's just the X-men specifically. I like to think it represents them honoring Xavier's dream.
I never payed that close attention to that little detail. Just that they added the sound effect from sfa before executing the move.
In what game? Because in CotA Iceman and Colossus don't...
I can't wait for the Sentinel episode 🤣
"How Sentinel himself lost almost 90% animation"
I think Iceman left the X-Men well before Cyclops joined. I don't know if Colossus ever was an X-Man. @@Jetanium
The reason for the split horizontal is that at the frame rate on the arcade cabinet, with the CRTV screen, it looked transparent and cool. It looks weird with high resolution and modern refresh rate.
Fascinating.
It’s been a while since I last played the previous collection but IIRC there’s a CRT filter present.
I’m gonna have to see this through the (literal) old-school lenses.
This is true, my friend had a xmvsf cabinet with crt and cyclops beam looked almost solid. The effect was the same in MSHvsSF. I remember seeing the cabinet in arcades and it looked the same.
I guess some games were just meant to be played on CRTs.
Even if the beam is solid on CRT monitors, you can see that its still only 1 frame that's on screen with hit sparks ontop of it. Very low quality animation compared to COTA that has multiple frames during the animation. If it's a solid beam like you said, then it's about equal to the one in MvsC2.
Yeah, I prefer the solid beam over the one they used in Xmvsf and MSHvsSF. Glad they decided to make it a solid beam in MvC2. Also I always found it funny how in xm cota every beam had a splash effect like you were shooting juice or something.
Ew no. Even with an arcade CRT you could still see the split in the optic blast. It has always looked weird as heck.
They should have kept the one from COTA
I have to think that it's because games after COTA included more characters whose animation frames had to be stored in (and instantly called from) the RAM. At a certain point, animations had to be skimped on, due to the limitations of the RAM size that could be called instantaneously to the screen.
This. Not only are they using less frames, it's also a smaller sprite that's just flipped to complete the giant beam.
I like how COTA has ripple animation frames directly in front of Cyclop's visor in addition to the blast itself. Appears to be the only version that has it.
Love how the announcer shouts *”X!”*
Throw em up
Me too. It always reminded of when Xzhibit says it on his song “X”
@@adirtyshame1”The X-Man, catch me doing drills in the Danger Room”
One of the last lines Xzibit raps on The Anthem by Sway & Tech.
@@liquidsaberz02 his verse was dope af. The song as a whole was 🔥🔥
I like what you did, just one thing. In mvc2 when you have cyclops and you press the two assist buttons cyclops will scream "here we go optic blast". Well that is if you have one and only one power level. Else, keep going you doing great work FOR THE EMPEROR.
I hope the Emperor is pleased, lol
I think that originated in mshvsf
I loved the Mega Optic Blast from COTA. Was the best to me.
I find it funny how cyclops legs inflate whenever he breathes
He ready
1:11 One interesting addition is that in every version after COTA, there's some smear/motion blur transition frames as he gets in position to fire off the beam.
At normal speed, it's easy to miss but with the slow-mo you can see it a little better.
There's also the dust that kicks up behind him from getting into position which is a little more obvious.
I wanna know how they changed Ryū's Shin Shōryūken to an electrical version in most Marvel vs. Capcom series bc in SF6 Critical Art, it had the electric in it.
The Power of Nothingness. Gouken mentioned it in SFIV or SFV.
Ryu started using electricity with Denjin Hadouken in SF3, since then he's consistently been given electricity where Ken was given fire. Canonically, Ryu was using electricity back in the Alpha series if the SF5 tutorial is true.
Im not a comic lore nerd with every known fact, but with what ive seen Cyclops in (Xmen movies) and games (xmen legends, xmen reign of apocalypse etc.) i played, i noticed that, his visor is like a surpressor, it holds back feom him really doing some damage with his eyes, like in the 1st xmen when toad snatches his visor, Cyclops unleashes a big ass blast destroying the entire roofs building that they were in, imagine Cyclops totally letting loose taking off his visor for a special move, itll be like Super Ultra Mega Optic Blast!!
In a Umvc3 mod where he's added in, he does exactly that
I think they reduced some of the animations and even redrawyed some to fit for gameplay reasons.
If you notice, X-Men Cota Hyper-X moves doesn't even had a Superpause, it worked similar to EX Moves in Darkstalkers games, going straight to the supermoves.
From Marvel Super Heroes, they now have a specific frame for superpauses before the hyper combo starts. Cyclops for example, the X-pose he does with his arms before Mega Optic Blast is awesome as hell[A thing that he shares also with most X-Men characters, they does the X pose before the hyper combo advent].
Always loved the xmcota blast effect. Wished they kept it
It's not just Cyclops, the whole animation in XCOTA was the best of the first 6 Vs. games. I think the producers felt that the game was too slow and had to cut frames to make the game faster because XCOTA was easily the slowest game of all 6. It was the most well animated but the slowest game in terms of speed. In subsequent games they didn't just cut out frames of animation but also entire poses as well, Psylocke is the most well known example.
Wow ! I did hear about children of the atom having more frames of animation but thanks to you, it's now more clear how xD
if I had to choose ? marvel super heroes vs street fighter the overall and creative why they made it, it gave a sweet impact and stylishly sfx to boot :3
Thats cool, I always viewed Cyclops Optic Blast as a Ki Blast. (Kiho from Dragon Ball) as like Cyclops Kamehameha or Superman's Heat Vision as his Kamehameha in a way. Espically he goes Mega Optic Blast and Ryu doing a Super Haduoken. Thats a site to see. I hope the eventual MVC4 not counting Infinite returns to the fast paced chaotic battles of pervious MVC games and include more Marvel and Capcom characters like the X-Men, Fantastic Four and more.
Anyways really cool special movesets comparison between the games, looking forward to the Fighting game collection this makes it waiting so hype for me.
I like the COTA better, it is much more detailed and smooth in its animation, I love that shock effect that looks like a very dense fluid that spreads everywhere.
The last one maybe several sprites since the middle of the beam can partially get blocked by the body.
The changes to Sentinel are really crazy from COTA to MvC2
Thank you for this! Love the comparison.
Maybe you can do kiko shou next??
Thank you. We will see. I already have a few videos completed and will be releasing them this month in between other videos.
One thing that's interesting is how part of the beam stops short when it hits a character. While this could be just sprite masking (could the CPS2 even do this) it could indicates that the beam is composed of multiple smaller component sprites that are being emitted from the the expanding cone in front of Cyke. It also explains why the beams look split in later games - because they are. From XvSF onward, they look to be made of many smaller components with less animation so that when it hits someone, the parts that disappear match the opponent's sprite somewhat. Look at how the entire beam just stops in COTA even against a short character like Wolverine, but only parts split from XvSF onwards. The MvC2 one, however, is probably using sprite masking instead of multiple sprites.
Cota was always my favorite and the only game that realy matters to me in Marvel vs Capcom fighting collection.
Lol jeez that's a bit much but yea😂
Now that You make this comparison the first version is the best
I prefer the size of yhe other ones, but the animation of COTA. I like how it tapers off at the end rather than outright disappearing.
The thing that really annoys me is that you can't combo into it In MSHVSF or MVC2 the way you can in XVSF. Comboing into Cyclone Kick and canceling into the super was so satisfying.
Those half frame sprites look good on crts. Theyre not meant for high res.
Even if you combine it together, it's still only 1 frame of a beam. Where's the rest of the animation? Just seems like there is none and it's just 1 beam frame blinking.
@@AcidGlow Old tvs show it continuous. That one frame with no data gets skipped. A lot of older fighters do this. RE2 on N64 is a great example.
*B E H O L D*
Optic Blast!!
Issue with COTA is no X-pose, superflash or unique audio. He just fires it very plainly.
It was the first game after all. They later added those features in future games which were part of Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo. They improved those things in games after this one, but the quality of the animation went down with the super.
Not really the Topic of this video but GOD why is that photo of Akuma overlooking a Burning Japan so fuckin BAD ASS
I assume that is.....Capcom vs SNK?
CVS2 actually not the first game.
That ranks as..
1st COTA
2nd MVC2
then 3rd was both XvsSF & MvsSF..
Hey could you do dark Sakura attack change please
Is there an explanation or guess as to why animations were out right removed outside of the button layout change in 2?
Marvel vs Capcom 2 pushed the hardware and they changed the buttons to make it more accessible to casuals
Animations has been removed because of memory limitation.
It had to be cut in favor to new characters, sprites has been cut more and more the more characters they added in the game, it's more noticeable on MvC2
Cota is the best, I like how it looks. Like it's splashing off the opponent.
If im not mistaken, isn’t Cyclops beam more boring in MvC2 was due to removal of flashing caused by the Porygon episode? All three games with the flashing effect released before that episode aired.
I could be wrong, the beam in mvc2 could also look boring due to limitations.
The original and MvC2 look the best. the blinking sprites look like limitations on the board.
Yeah, XCOTA version did look the best overall. The other versions of mega optic blast are fine, too. I like how the beam is as big as a TV screen, lol.
COTA has the best animation perhaps BUT It is the weakest sonically. When Scott hits you with the "BEHOLD! OPTIC BLAST!" I feel that, it's so hype!
the hit sparks in COTA are just way better to look at.
yup, smoother transition, better animation and colors
And in XM Vs STF and MSH Vs STF both could hit the character, adding more hits.
bro you’ve been on youtube 18 years
yes
Although the COTA one has more animations I think the later ones look cooler
Cota lo key looks the best
What i can see them on xvsf & mvsf was wasted energy that should have been an additional damage..
COTA is my fav 😊
BEHOLD! OPTIC BLAST!
i dunno, after seeing them all, i prefer the mvc2 one! it looked bigger and more powerfull. but i hate the hit sparks on the oponnents. they could have made those better
@@karlsylvain that's cool. We all like different things. 👍😎
Thats why COTA needs a Teue Sequel made by Capcom without SF Character s and Disney bullying them
Of all the VS games in this series, MVC2 definitely looks the roughest. I think they sacrificed a lot of the animation, sprite and effects quality for a larger roster and 3D stages. Unfortunate technological constraints 🤷
I hated that cheap looking split
Cota cyclops walking animation was at its smoothest. Then in marvel 2 they dropped frames. No reason to do this.
Mvc2 mega optic blast knocked down the enemy, the others didn't which isn't helpful.
Siempre he pensado lo mismo, la version COTA es la mas vistoza, tanto graficamente, efectos y movilidad, la peor es la de MVC2, solo se ve como una plasta gigante sin movimiento, se ve horrible
I’m sorry but when crapcom added there iconic street fighters into the mix. The beautiful cartoonish animations from X-men and Marvel super heroes was lost or just taken away to match the boring stiff animations of the street fighter characters. 😜😜😜😜😜
COTA is such an inspiring game for 1994. No other fighter compared those sprites
@@RotaryPoweredRXmaybe Darkstalkers and thats barely.
The problem is when the Japanese made this game they didn't understand who the X-Men are especially you what wolverine is they didn't know that wolverine had rapid healing and that his claws go through everything they thought he was like a ninja now this game wolverine's power bar it should be inching up to fully healed
That wouldn't be fun
Um okay. Well, as a Marvel reader for over 30 years I feel like they nailed the spirit as deeply as they could, while JoJo, Fist, and Fighterz benefit from the influence
@@jaleelkahn7032 dude im Gen,X
@@georgetrusty7696 no problem. But something like a healing factor isn't practical for a fast paced game like this
@@jaleelkahn7032 you ever play the game vigilante well in the game vigilante the main bosses their power bars go up a little bit food for thought they could have done the same thing for Wolverine but these are Japanese people they don't know the folklore of the X-Men back then they just stole his claws were those ninja claws that you saw in Shogun Assassin