10 Subtle Differences between Zelda Skyward Sword HD and the Wii version - Part 3
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Here 10 other little things that have been changed in the HD edition of The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword for Nintendo Switch!
Update: We can confirm that NPCs animations are still there! But they are much harder to spot. See how they work in Part 4: • 10 Subtle Differences ...
Part 1: • 10 Subtle Differences ...
Part 2: • 13 Subtle Differences ... - Hry
Update: We can confirm that NPCs animations are still there! But they are much harder to spot. See how they work in Part 4: czcams.com/video/n2Pc1pXDrWE/video.html
"In the Wii, the rain particle effect is not very noticeable..."
Me: There was rain?
My response exactly, lol.
Right?
Same
I played the original on a tiny tube tv, no way I noticed that!
You can't see sh*t for rain, but you can hear it
The NPC missing animation was one of the subtle changes I immediately noticed. More specifically the baby crying every damn 15 seconds
You know, that was one of the things I remember about the original. I always found it funny that I didn't hear that crying at all during my playthrough. I can only assume that they found the animations to be annoying or they simply forgot (and/or didn't think it was a big deal)
The animations are still in. The video has it wrong. There’s probably/maybe a change with the frequency of which they show up, but they’re absolutely still there.
I actually never thought it rained in skyward sword except like once due to how hard it was to see XD glad the fixed it!!
Same, and i though the slow-down for the time stones was intentional.
I did notice that the Bazaar sounded more quiet than usual.
Wow I can't believe they removed the vendor animations! I can't imagine it would have been much more work to keep that. This is such a great series though, thanks for all of your work!
Maybe it's a bug.
I wonder if the update that came out today (???) has changed it
I finished hd like a week ago and I definitely at least had the baby cry one, I thought it was cool so I tried to get it to happen again but idk what prompted it
2 of them you can't even notice unless you stand there like a bloke doing nothing. The other two were annoying so I'm glad they were removed.
Nome of them have been remove I have seen them all. Maybe it just happens less??? Idk lol
2:43 The line being "But there's no time to admire it!" isn't technically a Wii-to-HD change, it was always like that in the North American version of the original release. The European Wii version changed that line to "But now is not the time to give it a close examination!", but it seems they didn't carry over this line change for the European Switch versions (Among presumably other line changes, such as Fi's line about the oral tradition being unreliable)
This is the correct answer. As far as I can tell, Nintendo stopped doing EU specific localisations of their games beginning with the Switch. First party Nintendo games released for the Switch use the NA localisation when the language is set to English regardless of the region. As weird as it may sound, I think they do this now because the Switch isn't region locked like the Wii U or 3DS were, so there's not much point in making different versions of their games in the same language if all versions of their games can be played on any Switch from any region.
The video is about differences between the two, not necessarily changes from original to Switch port, but you're correct
@@Some-guy-on-the-internet I thought NoA stopped localizing for the EU ever since the Mario Party 8 on the Wii due to the infamous usage of a relatively harmless word in the US being found out a bit late it's actually extremely offensive in the EU
@@SorcererLance That is 100% true and they continued to do EU specific localisations for the rest of the DS and Wii's lifespans and throughout the entire Wii U and 3DS era. However, Switch games don't show any evidence of having EU specific localisations. My EU Switch games appear to be exactly the same as the American releases, even down to regional spelling differences, such as "color" instead of "colour".
@@Some-guy-on-the-internet They did EU localization throughout Xenoblade franchise. Including 2.
I vividly remember seeing Bertie soothing his child when at the cauldron during my HD playthrough. I believe the vendor animations are simply not as common and will not occur when you're too close to them.
The only reason I believe Nintendo would make this change is to keep the characters lively without distracting you from your shopping spree
Its because of the wii emulator being crap . It cant read wii isos propperly an the zelda anniverssarry was handled like ass
@ If you're trying to say that SSHD is a Wii ISO played on an emulator, it absolutely isn't. It's been ported, changed, and recompiled from the source into a new version of the game, and there's a ton of tweaks/features that were not part of the original. There are no emulator issues, because it's not emulated, it's a Switch game.
And besides, the animations are supposedly still there, just rarer.
00:33 Didn't know you could do that. Destroying the spitted freballs with the sword. Would like to see a video with these type of small details.
how can you not know that
@@ItsameAlex if you've never done it before, then you wouldn't know it, not that complicated
Lol i didn't know that either
@@ItsameAlex the normal instinct is oh hey, time to bomb them. or oh hey, use metal shield on fire to protect.
I play SS without a shield. You can reflect or intercept most projectiles with the sword.
The Bazaar vendors' animations being removed is kind of a change for the worse. I wonder why they did that.
Perhaps It's for players who are annoyed by Bertie's child crying...
@@hystericalpeanut2844 If that were the reason they could have just remove his animations only and not to everyone else too
@@zeromarurb4791 or just made it rarer or quieter
@@zeromarurb4791 The animations were removed to make the Bazaar quieter.
not 'kind of', it is. Bizarre.
I liked the way the background looked with the cezzane effect more. I always loved skyward swords art style, and that was a big part of it for me.
In all of my playthroughs I always thought that the fps drop when activating time shift stones was intentionally done for effect 😂
Nooo I’m actually so sad about them removing the npc animations 😭 Bertie soothing his baby was always my favourite, I thought it was so cute. This is the only change I’ve found in the HD version that I’m not happy about ☹️
You can still see him soothing his baby at his house at night, but only when you're a fair distance away from him. Once you get close enough, the baby calms down. It's an odd change, but it's still in the game.
The video is wrong, it/they still play in the bazaar. Maybe less, but it still happens
It's such a shame that the watercolor effect was more or less removed in HD since it looks gorgeous in HD on Dolphin. I guess that Ninty assumed that people would think it looked blurry or something and they may have been correct but that's sort of the point.
What’s dolphin? Where could I see what the watercolour effect looks like on it? It’s just that I always loved the watercolour look and I’d really like to see it translated to HD!
@@HeyItsNovalee dolphin is a Wii emulator!
It has been so long, I forgot that was the original design they were going for! Thought something looked a little off about the graphics, but just assumed because it was an older game.
@@HeyItsNovalee I'd recommend you watch the video by ThePixelPress comparing Wii to Dolphin. It's from 2013 but it's got some real nice comparison shots.
I definitely feel like I've seen all the vendor animations in the HD version, as it's the only version I've played
Did they change the frequency of the animations, perhaps? Maybe you have to wait longer for them now...
That’s what I’m thinking. I’ve definitely seen the guy shaking the baby and the Item Holder falling asleep, and since she doesn’t have that pose at night it had to have been in the bazaar
Yeah me too
mandela effect, you haven't really seen the animations before
@@ItsameAlex except that I have, though. I never played Wii or watched content on this, so unless I’m entirely off (which I could technically be), I’m pretty sure this isn’t the M.E.
I miss the bird feather save files
The idle animations are still in the game, it seems they simply changed the frequency at which they occur.
Pretty sure I’ve seen the vendor animations in the HD version. They may just be less frequent?
Yeah same
Same here, I know I've seen them
mandela effect, you haven't really seen the animations before
@@ItsameAlex I have. I've played both versions.
Answer: some of their animations that aren't viewable in the bazaar are still viewable in other parts of the game. For example, Bertie's animation with his child can be seen in his house at night. I don't know of the other animations being somewhere else though :/
I swear I have seen the animation of the potion guy in the bazaar in HD. But I just checked and they really are not there. Maybe they happen only at some point in the story for some reason? (bug?)
Maybe it only happens now between the trigger that let's you start the rattle quest and finishing it.
Answer: some of their animations that aren't viewable in the bazaar are still viewable in other parts of the game. For example, Bertie's animation with his child can be seen in his house at night. I don't know of the other animations being somewhere else though :/
@@sephroark that isn’t an answer, because I’ve heard the baby cry at the bazaar a lot in my Hd playthrough
@@Random1567 lol, this is what I get for commenting on so many comments
@@sephroark No worries, just trying to clear up confusion. Not a big deal lol
Good recopilation, I'm impressed with these changes :o
@ 2:58 when it’s described as “not the time for a close examination” I immediately think that implies that in many if not all other instances Link acquired an item, and a description of how it worked would follow, that this was the result of at that moment Link sat down and figured out how his new toy worked .
I love this series!
Great video, really detailed and interesting. It makes me happy that they bothered to pay attention to cleaning up the text :)
Noticed a lot of people pointing out that they have seen Bertie's animation that was supposedly removed, and I have an answer for it. Some of the animations that aren't viewable in the bazaar might still be viewable in other parts of the game. For example, Bertie's animation with his child can be seen in his house at night. I don't know of the other animations being somewhere else though :/
I thought something seemed off when I never heard the baby at the potion shop crying, I wonder if they took out the animations because playtesters thought they were annoying?
Your videos are brilliant. Thanks for all the effort!
Every time I hear that theme song or see the loading screen it makes me want to cry
The screen zooming out into the map was a nice detail
The last one makes me angry.
When I played pre-update the vendor animations were still available at least for the man and child, I was farther away from them though.
5:35 I feel like Lanayru Desert was the worst backdrop to show that effect off. I could barely notice a difference.
You must be blind, it’s very noticeable.
Hey all, I already pretty much knew they were still there, but just incase, to rule out any false memories, I checked the bazaar animations in SS HD. They’re still there! None have been removed. I’m not sure if they altered how often they appear, but they appear. I noticed walking around and talking to people around the area inside would seemed to make them pop up more, I think? Or maybe it was just a coincidence, but either way, I got ALL of them to trigger and even saved the clips of them.
So I can confirm, they’re still in the game.
I was waiting for the baby and dad to start there animation for like ever. I can’t believe they would remove that.
They’re still there. Maybe less frequent or play further away, but they’re still there in hd
2:44 That was a regional difference, in the American Wii Version, it says "No time to admire it" while in the European Wii Version it said "No time for close examination". That was during the time when Nintendo's English translation teams thought it was a great idea to have different English translations depending on where you live instead of using the same English translation in both regions. It uses the American version in that line in the Switch version. I guess they learned their lesson not to do that stupid move again.
Turns out the Bazaar animations DO happen, they're just absurdly rare for some reason. Rupin's sigh is definitely gone though, or at least unused.
I don’t think they removed the bazaar npc animations entirely, but made them a lot less frequent. I swear I heard the baby giggling at some point, but then when I went back to see, and waited, it didn’t happen again so idk.
I hope they add an option to turn on the objects from far distances painting effects
The effect works by combining multiple pixels to one blob of 'paint'
They didn't change the number of pixels being combined so the blobs are smaller in the hd version
Removing the subtle shop-keeper animations is unforgivable.
Another change I noticed is the Bokoblin's tightrope death animation. In the orginal Wii version if you shot a Bokoblin with a slingshot while it's on a tightrope you can see it fall down to its death. In the HD version however, if you shot a Bokoblin with a slingshot while it's on a tightrope they just die instantly. Although the sound that the Bokoblin makes while falling can still be heard in the HD version despite the animation changes.
3:42 the dialog is a reference to a secret room in link to the past (look it up for more info)
In the HD version, the animation with the baby crying in the Bazaar was not removed. It's still there. I've never played the Wii version, so everything else is new to me.
I’ve seen the vendor animations in the hd version. They probably made it less common.
Answer: some of their animations that aren't viewable in the bazaar are still viewable in other parts of the game. For example, Bertie's animation with his child can be seen in his house at night. I don't know of the other animations being somewhere else though :/
@@sephroark nope, not that
7:50: Those animations are still in the game. Atleast when I played it
I'm 100% sure I've seen that father-son interaction on switch
How do people notice something as small as "hearts sink more slowly in lava"?
Grabbing hearts before they sink in lava is definitely a thing people do with the beetle or whip, it probably clicked like “hmm this seems easier”
It’s a nice change because the beetle and whip can grab items in lava, but on Wii it happened so fast you could barely ever do it. It’s a nice little change
I'm glad it was a fun game, some line missing an exclamation point or a missing animation doesn't "change the game for the worse" for me. I'm pretty sure that doesn't change the outcome nor make any insane changes to the game that render it unplayable. I think people are just over sensitive for no good reason.
I haven’t seen anyone being angry about any of these changes though? Almost all of them are changes for the better that make this version superior. Except for maybe the vendor animations, that one’s kinda disappointing ☹️
It’s the only one I’m not happy with though
@@HeyItsNovalee vendor animations are still there! The video has it wrong somehow. There’s a difference, but they aren’t removed
Hunh, I didn't even notice the NPC animations were removed.
The Bazaar didn't feel as lively as I remember, I guess that's why.
I *thought* something was off about the potion maker! I used to remember hearing her call out during my runs through. Wonder why these animations were removed
they also made it so that rupin doesn’t sigh when you turn away from him. I miss that
Maybe he's not really that kind of guy
He does that you just have to pay more atention to it
That’s good video :)
I just wish they had made new textures and a new light shade, a few texture was remade, but in general they are the same, also the shade could be a little more like Wind Waker remake, but that's fine
The rain look horrible . The textue of an old TV XD
I do remember the baby crying in the HD version, but I only heard it once but did not see it. Peatrice is also different in the HD version. If you opt not to be her boyfriend, she will ask if you came to see a woman more beautiful because her heart was broken instead of going back to the way she was at the beginning. I also liked that in Skyloft you can see Loftwings flying in the sky randomly, not possible in the Wii version due to technical limitations.
Loftwings are flying in Skyloft if you look up. That detail has always been there to justify how they appear when Links fall from Skyloft.
I honestly never realised the animations were gone other than Bertie's.
The file thumbnails are nice, but I miss the bird feather designs
There are many more dialogue changes, not to mention other languages and the respective changes they got!
10 years later I can still hear Bernies child crying…
For speedrunners, these text changes makes a huge difference, because the less amount of text there is to render, the better, so when you pick a different language to run the game in, that text will be shorter compared to English.
I wonder why the bazarre felt less lively than in the original...
A lot of the text changes you mentioned only applied to the European versions of the HD and the original Skyward Sword because with the original Skyward Sword on Wii. Nintendo of Europe retranslated the entire thing to give it a more literal translation but in America the translation was more off probably due to censorship purposes or something like that but for every English version of the HD remaster is face off the American translation with the only text changes changing particular words as some words are spelled differently in different types of English Nintendo dude accommodate for that but all of the English text is based off of the American version
I thought NPCs in the Bazaar had these animations on Switch too, I had already seen these (or at less some)
Are these animations somewhere else ?
what was the point in changing the moon? tbh i barely even noticed it on the wii version lol
I'd forgotten, but I can _feel the framerate drop_ from the Wii timeshift stones _in my bones._
The whole FPS deal was not really a subtle change, it was CLEARLY noticeable for one and two it's not much of a change than rather the Switch is a much more powerful and capable system. As for subtle change #7 this was because originally during an age where HD become common for TVs and consoles the Wii was pretty much just a slightly upgraded Gamecube and thus was not able to produce 720p standard HD. To hide the lower 480 resolution the artists designed Cezanne Effect on the textures to resemble a painting (much like the ones French painter Paul Cézanne made) at a distance to give it more character as if you were looking a painting from afar but as you got closer objects became clear.
With Full HD at 60fps from the Switch that effect was no longer necessary so obviously they removed it to a degree. You can still see it but it's at a much lesser extent.
Why did they take out the animations?! D: I felt like something was missing when I was playing but I couldn’t figure what. And that’s it! It bring so much character and the switch can handle it so I can’t figure what reason they’d have for removing them.
They're still in, just with far less frequency.
They quit the vendor animations? Literally unplayable
Man, that's a real that the quest logs that used to be shaped like bird feathers have been replaced with generic rectangles, but, at least we got thumbnails now along with an additional 4th file! No idea why there were subtle dialogue changes such as with that one Groose scene, or even double-dashes replaced with single ones. I do love the aesthetics of the HD version more, even if the visuals sadly aren't as picturesque like before. I really don't see a reason why those unique animations with the NPC's were scrapped, it was really unique to watch. Oh, well, at least the game runs better now!
Maybe removing one dash was easier than replacing them both with a single long dash?
Animations are still there
im pretty sure a speedrunner said link jumps slightly higher in the HD version but I'm not certain
very much off topic but do y’all know any way to avoid getting motion sick while playing?? i played twilight princess on the wii as a kid but could never finish it (and still can’t :’) ) partially cause it made me so motion sick, which is why i didn’t end up playing another zelda game til botw. i got skyward sword hd and its a great game, but its so tough to play for more than like, 30 minutes at a time. i’m awful at solving puzzles/knowing where to go next so i run around a lot and shift the camera a bunch but it sucks that i feel like i’m gonna vomit if i play for any longer :(
i can’t even watch playthroughs, its really sad :/
Use your money and buy motion sickness pills
Didn't know it ever rained in the Wii version!
Is the moon rotated because you are looking at it from another perspective or time of day?
I think there was either an update at some point or you were not there long enough at the Bazaar because when I first went into the Bazaar Bertie's baby definitely cried
i could have sworn i saw atleast the baby animation once during my playthrough on switch version
Hehe groose it's the perfect meme machine on skyward HD
I'm pretty upset about the blurry/painting effect on the background, it was one of my favorite visual things about the game, made the art style feel rather unique
Everyone talking about the missing vendor animations and here I am sad about the save file being changed from something with personality to something boring
The animations aren't even removed, they just happen less often.
why do they remove the bazar characters animations? just... why?
They didn't remove them.
I'm torn between seeing the rain and seeing the vendor animations... Which version of the game is better?? Is there no ultimate edition with built-in amiibo fast travel, AND vendor animations? I'm going to lose my mind
The ending card is the best
idk whether people have noticed... but Link has more polygons in his shoulders now xD
Me: “so why should I pay $60 for a remaster of a game I can buy for $10 on the wii and wiiu”
Nintendo: “We replaced all double dashes with single dashes and rotated the moon 😊“
I noticed the FPS drop as soon as I hit one of those time shift stones in the original
The heart sinking in lava slower is probably an oversight due to doubling the framerate
slightly more realistic lava! yay!
I didn't know it was raining inside the thunder head when I played it on the wii
i have to assume they removed the additional animations because of the baby crying every 10 seconds being really annoying, but it sucks that they had to remove ALL of the interesting animations? i don't see why they couldn't have just removed that one, or even just got rid of the sound effects or something
The harp text in the original also said “but there’s no time to admire it!” I feel like that might be a regional difference, I’m in the US
Do one video with diferences in hero mode and nornal mode pls
I'm surprised Nintendo actually put some work into this port. Even if I don't agree with every change.
the price can be a bit exorbitant, but the changes are definitely good (in my opinion)
Some of these changes, especially the last one, make me sad :c
Cool
About the time stones.. i thought that was just how it was meant to be
BIGGEST CHANGE is no auto centering & setting to neutral position when an aiming dependant item is taken out. People should message Tantalus in social networks so it can be added into a patch.
Jfc just press the Y button
Just press Y
i didnt know it rained at all
i just tought it was only really cloudy
Rupin doesn’t sigh!
The 'theres no time to admire it' used to be a regional difference in the wii, between the Europe and USA version
So was the dialogue "there's no time to admire it" in the US or European version?
@@macklee8835 US
@@darth_aura Ah, okay. thank you.
Are the shopkeepers animations Mandela Effect? They never existed on Switch?
Shut up
okay but HOW DID SOMEONE EVEN NOTICE THE DIFFERENCE OF THE MOON?
They should’ve kept the animations from the Npc’s
Que linda introoo