Space Battleship Yamato Original or Space Battlehip Yamato 2199
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- I have opened a discord server. Feel free to join! / discord Do you want to watch Space Battlehip Yamato, but are unsure if you should watch the original or the remake 2199? Then you're in luck, cause this video aims to help you decide which of the different versions of Yamato you should check out!
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there's also the fact that _2199_ managed to not only expand the roles of the side-characters, but also worked in many ways to expand the world-building. Several examples include the following:
The Battle of Pluto in the original now being used as a form of distraction for the Gamilas to not notice the arrival of Sarsha who is bringing not a message; but the Wave Motion Core, explaining the inconsistency of Humanity somehow being able to build a Wave Motion Engine completely from scratch in just one days time: here it was because Starsha managed to send over her other sister with the plans to build the Wave Motion Engine and only needed the Core as the last component needed for it.
Another was the Satellite Gun's role from the Pluto Arc being expanded to have it be the machine Shultz and Ganz uses to irradiate extrasolar meteoroids and send them on trajectory to Earth as the deadly Planet Bombs.
Lastly was the little touches used to help the audience build sympathy for the Gamilas by showing the levels of corruption that were a part of their society that ranged from Racism and Classism, to their treatment of citizens and those who are outspoken, and even throwing in some much-needed emotional qualities such as Shultz being on assignment to Pluto and receiving a message from home by his daughter Hilde asking when he would be coming back home.
Or the tragic home life of Erich Domel, who lost his only son Johann when he was very young, and he now spends time away from Gamilas as one of their empires greatest commanders solely as a means to try coping with the loss.
2199 is how you remake a series.
I agree
@@RailPreserver2K No. 2202 was the perfect example of how the writer's arrogance ruined a remake and why you should have the same people that made a good remake to do its sequel as well. Changing the writers, director, animators and the CGI studio for a sequel is a recipe for disaster.
@@user-zv2vm8bd8h I have this feeling that the reboot is going EXACTLY the same path as the original series (it's all downhill from here.)
@@LieshaCichol Unfortunarely it seems this to be the case. 2202 was a mess and it killed my interest about the franchize.
@@user-zv2vm8bd8h i absolutely loved 2199, and was super hyped for 2202, but i lost hope for 2202 the moment i found out they were needlessly changing the director and writers. And recently, i found out that they actually had the nerve to KEEP that same director for the upcoming 2205.
The comment section for this video is hands down the best one I've ever seen in ten years watching YT.
Having said that, here's my contribution. Star Blazers was my absolute favorite anime back in the early 80s. It ignited my passion for sci-fi, which lasts to this day.
I've been meaning to rewatch it, but realized there have been different iterations through the decades. I can't seem to find any info nowadays, but I remember seeing pictures of a future Yamato that had a four-pronged bow as well as shock cannons on the keel side - they all seemed to have three or four barrels fused together (couldn't angle independently); and there was also another series featuring the Yamato with some kind of "saucer section" in the middle of the hull - I believe it was the first CGI animation of the franchise.
After watching this video, I've decided to rewatch the three original seasons, then go straight to 2199.
I had to catch the original star blazers right before my school bus in the mornings back in late 70's,,,hated to miss any episodes. I loved it,,,,to this day Marc Venture and Derek Wildstar are still in my head as reference to the past 40 years or so. So the original is my choice.
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I've seen both the old Japanese one and english one and I'm almost done season 1 of 2199
@GalaxyExpress2199 only the best fighter pilot and navigator in the star force ,that's all
@GalaxyExpress2199 Not in my mind, star blazers forever, but yes. Glad to know they're still being enjoyed
7am rain, shine, even snow-days, had to be up for Star Blazers. I grew up writing "Wildstar" comics on my parents typewriter and even had a CB handle as Wildstar back in the day. Heck it may even be a password of mine but I'll never tell.
Both series do bring different things to the table and are both worth watching. Granted, I watch the Dubs and find Captain Okita's VA in the original much better. He just has that old salty dog voice you'd expect from an aged boatman.
Nice. I didn't watch the dub as I prefer to watch subs, but that does sound like a nice fit for him.
@@AnimeTopScholar few yearsate but the yamato dub in the 70s was probably one of the best dubs at the time
I agree as it reminds me of original Japanese series from 1974 of captain Okada I liked better than when they westernized it with someone doing voice of captain Avatar in 1978
I cannot describe how much I love this serie, never something inspired me that much !
2199 is the best remake of an untouchable original.
after 45 years the original is a little dated ,2199 is faster paced without stepping on holly ground.
2199 is better than the original. It looks better, has better music, has the benefit of hindsight to streamline characters and fill in plot holes (such as the abrupt shift in Garmilas skin tones), is not tethered to the originals' commercial considerations, and has more accessible themes and sympathetic villains (which we actually learn a lot about).
A Gundam Origin One-Year War arc will also be better than MSG.
You guys should watch 2202 version as well you guys will love it
@@bellgrand Die Neue These did similar things. I dont like some of the small plot changes they made, but overall its good.
@@asmitasinha6547 Nope, not me, 2199 was too much for me. I cant go through this pain and sadness again.
I remember my dad showing me the original when i was in 5th grade. Then out of the blue 2199 came out when i was a Sophomore in HS. I was soo thrilled to show it to my dad and be able to bond over a show he watched as a kid and now i had my own updated version to watch myself.
Now this may seem a bit bias, I honestly feel 2199 is the best reboot/reenvision of any IP.
It updates without being in your face about it, but keeps the central ideas for the most part. The animation is solid. I also give Funimation credit on a decent dub and the licence rescue.
It is definitely up there in terms of reboots.
(This is a LONG post - for those who read it to the end, I thank you for your patience. I'm an old fan from way back and I do not think or write in Twitter sized bites.)
For a sense of nostalgia - to get the original experience. I say - watch the 1974 original Yamato. Yes - there are some oddities of a show that was finding it's way. But it IS a product of its time. And it shows.
What's brilliant about Yamato 2199 is that it embraces the whole thing, warts and all. In some VERY creative ways!
Here's a hilarious in hindsight example - Up until Episode 10 of the 1974 original, the Gamilas - even Dessler! - had Caucasian (white) skin tone! Then from Ep 11 onward, they were blue colored! This was the sort of thing you could get away with in 1974 when your episodes come out weekly, there's no way to record them because no Video recorders, and the audience are left thinking to themselves - "Wait... is that different? Or did I imagine that?" :D
Yamato 2199 pulls the neat trick of having it BOTH WAYS - showing the Gamilas empire was truly an Empire in the Roman sense - down to having client states. And the Garrison in our solar system - the ones charged with tossing the planet bombs at us - with the characters from the original version who died in battle before the Gamilas color change took place - being members of a client state of the Gamilas whose main ambition overall is to serve the Empire loyally enough so that their people can be granted full rights as Gamilas citizens! This keeps the LOOK of the original - while at the same time adding MANY layers of character depth to antagonists who in the original were much closer to "Bumbling Bad Guy cardboard cut-outs" before we got to the competent villains like Domel and Dessler himself. You really start to feel sympathy for BOTH sides. And when the Client State garrison commander meets his demise, he and his crew does so with a dignity and pathos that the original never were allowed.
Another smaller example is the treat of seeing characters like Captain Yamanami - who featured prominently in Arrividerci Yamato and Yamato II (Comet Empire) as either the Captain of the Yamato or a rival ship the Andromeda (depending on whether it's the movie or the TV series) - show up early in Yamato 2199 so that we confirm continuity.
There are little treats and Easter eggs like that all through 2199. Both confirming and yet giving better explanations and background for all of it - only changing things where they absolutely must.
The last example is the ship itself.
The length of the ship was always canonized at 265 meters because that's nearly exactly the length of the original sea-going battleship Yamato and the producers insisted that it stay that way.
Why? Because the original Space Battleship was supposed to be LITERALLY the old wreck refurbished. Even taking into account the "rubber physics that this show is known for, our suspension of disbelieve WILL break now more than in 1974. Refurbishing the ACTUAL wreck is WILDLY impossible now that we understand two things - first - we now have a much better understanding of the process of corrosion at those depths. In 200 years there will not BE any wreckage left to resurrect, there will only be nodules of iron oxide and maybe a few scraps of the thicker armor sections left. The other thing that kind of kills the concept of a resurrected Yamato is that the wreck is in worse shape than originally thought when the show began in 1974. (In fact they hadn't even FOUND the wreck until after the original run of the shows and movies concluded in 1983!) They thought it sank in one piece and landed upright. But in fact, the Yamato is broken badly into 3 distinct chunks and two of them are upside down. Yeah - that ain't happening...
So the remake version is NOT the original resurrected Battleship. It's built in the same spot. And likely the high concentration of iron ore from the original wreck helped disguise the construction from sensors. And it is built largely in the same shape - also for camouflage (but also for other reasons which don't bear going into in this post). But the space version is no longer locked into the concept of being the same size. In fact it's significantly (though not wildly) larger than the original, at 333 meters in length.
Not to mention that the fighter bay as portrayed with it's GENIUS "carousel" launching concept actually FITS WITHIN THE HULL and both it and the engine room actually make sense! (The original Yamato - we fans always joked - had to be part TARDIS!)
That's all the technical side of things - but what I would REALLY like to compliment Yamato 2199 for - is keeping the same SPIRIT as the original. It is a more complex and layered story - but the sense of romanticism and adventure is 100% the SAME.
While I do urge any serious fan to watch the original. I think Yamato 2199 is probably more accessible to younger fans, and they really won't miss anything important.
Great post. You brought up a lot of good and interesting points. That was a good read
I am reading this during the pandemic lock down, I took the time to watch both series and totally agree with your points. My favorite happens to be 2199 for the points you made and because of the details put into the ships antagonist characters and so on...I still have to watch the 2202 series though.
"the Gamilas - even Dessler! - had Caucasian (white) skin tone"
That was, in fact, is being used as prime example of risks of outsourcing outside of Japan for ages. The final painting of cells were outsourced to a company in China (PROC, not Taiwan), with color code specifying Gamilas skin to be blue. Chinese reaction "No, humans don't have blue skins." "They're aliens!" "Don't care, this's human skin clolor." And it took that long to correct the whole mess (how, I never found out)
@@LieshaCichol Yeah - that's laughably absurd, of course. But it kind of reinforces the genius of Yamato 2199 in turning what used to be a bad continuity joke completely on it's ear and adding richness to their world - all based on an original mistake in cel coloring by stubborn outsourced studios!
That's almost Douglas Adams "throwing yourself at the ground and missing" levels of enlightened serendipity! :D
Watch both.
Watch Yamato 1974 if you are interest in hand drawn animation and for a nostalgic sense of Japan just at the beginning edge of the “Bubble-economy”. It was made for a 1974 Japan only audience in mind, so it is a bit of a cultural and historical document.
Watch the new version for all that stuff just mentioned in the video above.
How'bout The original 1974 Movie ?
When the original aired in Japan in 1974 the programs was called terabi manga or tv comics (I apologize if I misspelled it). Because of the fans and the cinema success of Yamato they started calling these programs anime and Yamato was the first anime boom. As Starblazers it didn't hide its origins. It was the first anime in America to state its original title at the end and if I remember correctly the first to state the creator of the show in the end credits. The original has something the remake doesn't, it makes you care and cry for joy and sadness. The dubbed version was very potent with that. Because the show pulled you in it had the same effect on me the 100th time watching it as it did the first time watching it. Because of this I suggest you watch the original first then the remake. The remake has better animation (though the original was top of the line for the time) and in some regards the story is better too. I suggest you watch them all in order, its a great experience. Have fun!
As to which series to watch...if you're a (serious) Matsumoto fan, the original SBY (Space Battleship Yamato) *should* be part of your collection. I've had the good fortune to obtain a copy of the original Japanese version of SBY (RE: Starblazers) which does help with story comprehension; the American version was pretty hacked up, but not as badly as some imported animes.
OTOH, I consider USY (Uchuu Senkan Yamato) 2199 to be a superior product, though not for the reasons you might think. Yes, the computer animation for 2199 is probably (IMO) some of the best out of Japan in the past 10+ years. But it's the increased depth of the story / characters (on BOTH sides of the battlefield) that makes 2199 shine; the 'bad guys' in 2199 are much more than cardboard villains to punch holes in, and there's a real effort to connect the viewer with the (deep) story, and ALL the characters within.
USY 2199 should be a *must watch* for the crowd at Pixar, and (especially) Disney...THIS is how you make a story worth telling, AND watching.
I was shocked at how good the remake was. I ended up ranking it my second favourite of the decade (after OPM). It was the classic, timeless space opera that no one seems to make anymore.
I kinda prefer 2199 in term how they showing Garmilas side, My fav Gammy, Domel have interesting story in 2199 also he's a man of honor and he have better plan compare to original in dealing with Yamato. while in original, I kinda don't like it that they show him as "Person that almost destroy one of his own base because of single ship" just my opinion, then in 2199 we have that old man that is in charge of Pluto base, before his death we saw him accepting his death and thinking about his wife and daughter, showing that he is also a normal person that have family that he loves.
What really got me in 2199 remake is the fact that Earth attack first, what Melda say kinda stunned me "Terron indeed like to fight, they even fire before even formal declaration of war" I stunned because that is what happen during Pearl Harbor, Japan indeed goes to many war before WW2, like Russo Japanese war and in China, and then they indeed didn't Send formal declaration of war when attacking pearl harbor.
also that moment when They sang Garmilas March together, one of the most epic moment in anime.
nice review by the way, have you saw the OVA of SBY 2199? *spoiler alert* in that Ova you will learn Berger ( one of Domel closest friend, leader of the purple Carrier squadron ) also will be the first time Yamato fought together with Garmilas against Gatlantis.
PS, that said, it's also good to watch the original, people have different way of viewing something, you migh find something that is interesting in Original as well.
Yeah, 2199 did a better job with the cast as a whole in my opinion. The original is still really good, but it mostly focuses on the main cast and not so much everyone else, which is good as well.
No I have not seen the OVA. I need to go back and watch more Yamato, I just haven't gotten around to it yet
I also did enjoy seeing the Garmilas perspective.
The original Yamato is my absolute favorite anime of all time and when I watched the remake I was honestly moved to tears by it. It managed to do something so few remakes do and that’s keep the soul of the original material in tact while being unafraid to try new things for itself. It tells the same story with the same heart in its own special language and it made me cry by the time it was over. My absolute only complaint was the strange fan servicey crotch shots on the female uniforms, but the originals oddly placed fanservice upskirt moments were just as obnoxious lol
Dude, I PREDER THE ORIGNAL " Sarrblazers "That aired on TV at 3:30pm EVERY DAY, during the week from the 1070's thru the 1980's, ---you CAN"T CHANGE A LEGEND!
I love both series. I was hooked on the original as a teen waaay back in the 70's. The remake is brilliant. I agree, watch both. They each have their jewels, and neither one will disappoint.
This show is my new favorite. Really took a great vintage show and made it even better. Can't wait for rebel 3199 this July
I saw this in spanish, chapter by chapter, eagerly awaiting every sunday morning in the early 80's. Then bought the VHS movies, which i still have. Still the best story i've seen and experienced.
Was Spanish version uncensored unlike the what we Americans got in English ?
I watched the original as a kid back in the late 70s. It was the best thing ever. I bought the dvds a few years back. I recently bought 2199. What an amazing remake. Better than the original. Sub plots and supporting cast were far superior. The space battles in 2199, left the original in the dust. Not only better animation, obviously, the battles themselves were so very well done. A great series remake, and must see. The original will always have a special place in my heart, but 2199 is epic
I love the original and the remake. This franchise has a special place in my sci-fi heart. As a first generation Mexican-American kid growing up in the capital of Silcon Valley, San Jose, Ca, in the 70’s and 80’s and figuring out US culture and learning to speak English, and thinking all cartoons where American; back then, I had no idea of Japaense animation. But I remember watching this incredible cartoon after school and thinking “there is something different and special about this cartoon” besides the fact that cartoon charaters died or were killed, “what the fuck” my kid brain would think as it was blown away. The production design was top notch, right up there with Star Wars, to this day the Yamato is one of my favorite space ships ever created. And to think that this came out 3 years before Star Wars!! It has some of the most memerable space battle scenes ever, the musical score is epic! I find myself singing in jiberish Japaense and English dubbed the opening theme quite often. And it was also my introduction to anime, that lead to my love affair with Macross aka Robotech and Japense culture in general. And it also introduced to me the idea of a culture taking a ‘product’ from one culture and giving it their own unique spin on it. As an immigrant kid, I really appreciated that and I am grateful to have grown up in a country like the US, that brought so much of the rest of the world to me. 🇯🇵🇺🇸🇲🇽
The cool part about 2199, is they kept all the plot points from the original, even if the characters featured were different. Mutiny, check. I felt the Sunohara focused episode was a nod to the Space Storm episode from the Original, just as Yamamoto was the focus of the Gamilas Pilot Episode (and Melda was a great addition to the cast, Glad she got some Screen Time in 2205) among others
I prefer the original but both have different things to enjoy. I love the more detailed look at Garmilan society in the reboot, but nothing can beat the original “dessssslock deslock deslock deslock” chant in the English dub lol
I agree with assessment. I've watched both. I have a more nostalgic fondness for the original. The remake to me feels more fleshed out and polished with better writing and story plots. You can tell that the original was geared to a younger male audience and the remake to a more mature demographic.
For sure
yes, a good mature story with sci-fi element. its definetely a unique experience for me.
If you grew up with it the original would be first for nostalgic feelings, but as one myself I can appreciate both
Thanks for the I was really on the fence about the remake but this makes really want to see it even more.
Thanks for the vid😊
I say both as well. I mean ive watched all of them, and im a bit biased/obsessed. Why, considering the reboot changes parts or gets rid of some and its a nice history lesson on old anime.
Also are you going to make a video on Farewell Yamato, Yamato 2 and the remake of 2202, once 2202 finishes.
I might do it sometime in the future, but I have no plans on doing it right now. I haven't watched Yamato 2, Farewell Yamato or 2202 yet, but I'm definitely planning on getting to them as soon as I can.
@@AnimeTopScholar then you should know that Farewell Yamato caused Yamato 2. And also that Yamato 2202 is more of its own story. Same premise and most of the beginning epsiodes are the same as 2199 to the original but it does move of on its own a bit in the latter half. Its also more of a remake to Farewell.
Cool. Thanks for the info
You missed the most important difference, which is exploration of Gamilas society and the stresses and competing factions - the old nobility, the imperial guard, Dessler's regime etc. It's by far the biggest difference and also the most interesting. The Garmilas in 2199 are not just stock villains - they're a fully realized society. I loved Yamato as a kid and it has a special place in my heart, but 2199 is considerably superior.
I'm one of the few that really enjoyed the Star Blazers voice dubs. Sorry but in my heart it will always be Derrick Wildstar and Nova!
The original was great for me as a child. However, the reimagined is much better for me as an adult. The reimagined took something great and made it better.
although this is 4 years old a new series called 2205 appeared last year with 2 parts
I'm rewatching 2199 for the fifth-or-so time right now. I remember Star Blazers on Saturday morning TV in the early 1980s. The 1974 original is good, and important. 2199 is _even better_ in every way. I was badly disappointed in 2202 though, compared to the original. For some reason they changed the writer and director between 2199 and 2202. It's not quite Disney Star Wars bad, but it lacked the grab-you-and-carry-you-away that 2199 has. The original second series had that iconic moment with Yuki and Kodai on the bridge of Dessler's ship, and Saito's sacrifice inside the Comet Empire, but 2202 blew it, going for the big visuals at the cost of plot and character. In my opinion.
That's a shame to hear
Have to agree with you. Felt that 2199 was an absolute treat while 2202 was good until the main battle then went completely off the rails and into the land of ridiculous, losing the heart that the main battle and the original sacrifice of the Andromeda brought.
Best of all, you can watch the Farewell to Space Battleship Yamato movie which... I mean, that movie is perfect. Yamato was never better than that. I know Yamato fans might consider that heresy with Be Forever Yamato being so highly regarded, but.. Yamato Movie 2.
2202 is a show made to be watched multiple times. It’s less than 2199 but it’s not bad, but it feels like it’s missing about 6 episodes.
Great video. I loved both!
I just finished 2199 and 2202. Both were fantastic stories, with only one thing in 2202 bugging me. I didn’t find Kato’s (fighter wing commander) actions totally believable throughout, especially given that he had to know as well as the rest of the crew that the Gatlantians were out to annihilate all life. He had a nice redemption arc I guess, but his initial betrayal felt contrived to me.
Been sitting on the fence on this one. My friend and I are mixed on which one to watch first (we are watching Captain Harlock '78 right now. I've seen it so many times but this is her first time. She adores the Captain, and who doesn't?) but 2199 really turn us off from the few fanservice scenes we've seen. Also comparing the two series made me think the original would be better suited for us. Also retro anime is our weakness. Probably going to watch the original first. Still this was an amazing video to compare the two. You showed both sides on this (and seeing the original clips makes me want to watch it even more but I have to wait until my friend finishes Harlock. XD;;; ) so thank you! I hope to one day my friend and I will finally get to watch this amazing show.
I'm a big fan of the original. I'm interested in seeing the remake, now!
You definitely should give it a go
I've seen both! All the original and most of 2199! The reboot in my opinion is definitely not as good as the original, but it's very good!
I have seen both. And I love both of them. It inspired to me to write Chronicles of the Terran-Galactic Alliance Federation.
Cool
I watched both versions and they are great. But the original has one thing better the the remake and that is the sound of the wave motion gun.
The oreginal Japanese version...but I liked the star blazers ending better.
Desloks the boss.
I've watched all the original series in Japanese and english! Both so good!
There is NOTHING in tv, film, or life that compares to the sound of the Wave Motion Gun in the original series. The countdown/buildup, the click of the trigger, slight silent pause, then the spine jarring super electric power buzz followed by the raw, sheer , unleashed power of trillions of tachyon particles screeching and screaming through the universe. Yeah. That’s how you do a super weapon. They changed it for 2199, though. Wonder why.
Yeah, it's a shame they changed it. Honestly, production wise, the original does a lot very well. I was kind of surprised at how good the show looks compared to a lot of other shows at the time
Interesting clip. Well, I saw both of them. And I must say, the first one is more Matsumoto. 2199 is more detailed about crew. But both of them are great. Thanks from Malta
Great video. I grew up watching the original back in the 1970s as Starblazers here in the States. I like both of them. They bring something different to the history of this great franchise.
Absolutely
I always remembered the theme song from when I was a child. I saw the remake 2199-2202 and I like the newer better.
Thank you for video!
Thank you for watching it!
The original Yamato is the Beggining of evrything, in the fundamental stone of all animes that comes after so... until now, I`ve been refusing to see the new Yamato, 2199, as many of you have paid yours respect for the new show, I`ll feel more secure to dive into it. Tks for all!
It's worth it believe me..i watched the original too and even though a few changes worth your time. Great upload to who did this
the new yamato is good too. i love the old one but this one is so good.
I've seen the original series many times since it aired on US TV as Star Blazers. I've seen 2199 three times and the sequel series 2202 once. I whole-heartedly recommend the original series, especially in HD. It may be nostalgia talking, but many dramatic moments from the classic series were reimagined in 2199, but not as well done. IMHO. The animation and amount of moving parts on the screen is much greater in the newer series, but there are some clumsy bits where the momentum somewhat peters out. Also, the classic series is hand-drawn animation, which gives it a more "artistic" look (like Picasso). The new series is digital, meaning everything is straight lines and perfect curves and brushless colors. It's amazing, but I'll take Chagall over Rembrandt any day.
I watch both and the original series is way better. It add a human touch to the Gamalons. It was really cool watching the Gamalons and the earthlings team up together to take on the Comic Empire. I felted it was a sadder story and when you watched you felt nobody was safe. Everybody had a chance to die. 2199 seemed to predictable. 2199 was a good story but the original brought more depth to the Gamalons and to me what make a good story is flushing out the back stories of both the protagonist and the antagonist. You learn that people in war are all noble because the just want to be a service to their planet.
I've seen three different versions of the series: Crucero Espacial Yamato when I was a kid in Mexico in the late 70s, Star Blazers in the US in the early 80s and Uchu Senkan Yamato 2199. I've also seen the live action movie.
My favorite is Star Blazers for sentimental reasons. The first version I saw was the Mexican dub but it was shown with distracting subtitles over the Japanese titles. Every now and then the japanese track would bleed through.
The best one I would say is Uchu Senkan Yamato 2199. They kept the best parts of the original anime: the story, the music and even the sound effects but with more backstory dedicated to the Gamilas as well as the crew of the Yamato. The animation is also next level awesome.
*i chose to conveniently overlook the inconsistencies of the Yamato or the Argo, because both versions, the ship get heavy damaged in battles only to be repaired in a manner as if the ship was never massively damaged, consequently, my reply applies to other genres that have verifiable and verified inconsistencies to including being ridiculous on the behavior of the protagonists and antagonists etcetera etcetera etcetera* - pondering and wondering on inconsistencies and absurd tv and film and theater events at TV PM Pacific Daylight Savings Time on Sunday, 29 March 2020 leap year
Probably giant ass 3D printer, i meant if you have to cross the galaxy something like that is a must along the ability to process raw material, like how they mine some material to be used in the repair of the generator
On "the ship gets damaged in battles only to be repaired" part, you might want to check 2199 ep 24, about 3:58 mark. You can see the scratches marks on the bow of the ship that she sustained from ramming into a building in previous episode. In the original show where it was all hand drawn, so keeping track of damage and consistency was near impossible, while CGI model of the ship in 2199 can track those damages.
I saw the original series and fell in love with it immediately. I had never seen anything like it before. Can't remember exactly when I saw it. It had to be in the late Seventies or early Eighties. I came across a 5 volume graphic novel about the series as well as two books with art work of the characters and the Yamato. And a book of individual Cels. When I heard about 2199 I had to check it out. Great graphics, but somewhat disappointing in that it was shortened a bit. Overall I did enjoy it especially since it came in Blu-Ray as well as DVD. I am currently watching 2202, Part One.
I think both should remasterd on blu ray and others anime from 1950 to 1989 to keep the original
I watched the original on TV as a young kid. (It was part of the Boston-area TV hour that included Star Blazers and Force 5)
But I find the new one to be much more digestible both for me and my kids. The old anime (the visual) doesn't age well unless you have a real interest in 70's era anime. I couldn't get either of my kids (teen and tween) interested in the old one at all. FWIW, I also like the new dubbed voices vs the original English dubbed voices I grew up with.
I actually think the 70s Yatamto's visuals are quite good, though I do have a soft spot for Leiji Matsumoto's designs. Animation wise the show is quite strong, especially compared to most other shows from that time
I have seen them both. As much as I love the original, 2199 is my favorite of the two. I absolutely love how they stuck to the original spaceship designs, just made them cooler and more detailed. The one thing I hated about the live action Yamato movie was the excessive artistic license they took when it came to the ships, and the Gamilons look like the Drej aliens from the movie Titan A.E.
Nice job. I love this show since I was 12
Thanks
Captain Avatar and leader Desslock's voice overs are just beyond dissaponting. How could anything replace Desslock's smug always calm but intimidatingly British accent?? and Avatar's gravely old ship Captain gone as well? No!! Other than that great stuff.
7am rain, shine, even snow-days, had to be up for Star Blazers. I grew up writing "Wildstar" comics on my parents typewriter and even had a CB handle as Wildstar back in the day.
The only thing I didn't like was changing the sound effect of the wave motion gun the original wad perfect
I agree 💯% with the Reviewer!
I grew up with the original Yamato and while I love both for their own reasons I find the EYE CANDY of 2199 irresistible!
Fascinating stuff.
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Even though I was born in the 2000’s I was lucky enough to have a dad who loved this show and showed it to me. Now I am a fan of it
Loved the original. Would appreciate to see the remake 2199
You definitely should
Yes..... I know EXACTLY what your referring to by the 'fixed issue in the ending' lol. A TON of us fans were pleased beyond words with THAT. That being said..... I got into the original franchise back in 2006. And I absolutely LOVE the original franchise.....I was scared to death when I heard they had planned to remake it....but HOLY CRAP!!!!!! This reboot of the franchise is absolutely breathtaking. They truly did the original justice. Great video btw...... Imma subscribe ;)
Thank you. Yeah I love the original a lot. I also like that they decided to reboot Yamato with 2199 instead of just remaking it. It still makes it worth it to watch the original
Watch 2199 first. I grew up watching the original star blazers with fascination but 2199 was more mature and is still my favorite iteration. The original Yamato may not have as much as 2199, however It had some great things that were left out of the remake. I think the biggest difference is that the original Yamato had a much slower approach to telling the story, I felt like each episode taught you something.
1:42 Cool, didnt know all 3 were by the same guy.
Ordering 2199. Saw the original, growing up in Michigan in the late 70s. Great fathers day gift.Lol.
Nice
I did like how the remake changed some stuff towards the end which made it new. I like when some remakes change things up. Just found out today that they made a sequel to 2199 being called Uchuu Senkan Yamato 2202 or Star Blazzers Yamato 2022. I wanna see what type of changes are made to that one and hopefully they can remake series 3 Bolar Wars which never made it to the USA when I was a kid. Found the Japanese version with English subs. Even heard there was an idea for a 4th that never came to be.
Yeah I definitely need to get to watching 2202, but I've got a lot on my plate right now so it's sadly gonna have to wait
I couldn't find anyplace in Sweden that had it so I found a torrent site that had the whole Uchuu Senkan Yamato 2202 series in English dub. Up to watching episode 16 now and so far its pretty good. Some changes in it. I'll have to was the original Comet Empire series again to give a which is better though.
I have a little OCD so that's why I stormed the internet for it. Hoping the make the 3rd series.
I can't see 2199, I do remember the original star blazers, when it came out in the US, it was very different and enjoyable because of plot. I also enjoyed Roboteck, it was the 1st cartoon where the main character at the beginning Dies, major shock for a 10 year old...thank you for your video
I watched the original and Haven't seen the reboot yet! But I really love the original, and really excited for the reboot!!
Loved both
2199 is how you remake a piece of art...
Wonderful job done by people who really understood the soul of the original Yamato
Remembered watching the original after school. Been my favorite ever since. Also watched 4 animated movies ( last one - the death of Yamato)
I watched boy series and liked them both. I still wish Mamuro survived instead of his essence put in the cosmo reverser but I understand why they did it and it still made a great show.
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Space battleship Yamato
Grew up on the original. Currently watching the remake.
Watched both, 2199 is FAR more improved, the story is expanded, characters are better defined, the plot is more complex, and its just a helova fun ride. The original was iconic, the remake is a remarkable re-establishes that iconic status.
The new one is more beautifully animated, better written and better acted but it doesn't have the charm of the original. I'll take both but If I had to only choose one it will be the original. It's kind of like comparing the 2005 King Kong vs 1933 King Kong...you just can't beat the charm of the originals.
Yess!! I prefer the original over 2199 but 2199 is good! I saw the original first with my dad recently, so now I'm watching 2199! So far I definitely like the original better
I'm not wild about the character designs in the new SBY2199 series. Makes them look a little too teen-aged, particularly Kodai and Desslar. On the other hand, the overall artistic design and the animation are lightyears ahead of the 1970s original, the visuals much more ambitious, and the CGI enhancements blend in with and add to instead of distracting from the cel animation work. Visually, the new series really POPS. There's just no denying this.
2199 is definitely a treat visually, though I would also argue that the original Yamato looks damn good for it's time
Good, now do the Comet empire series comparison!
We'll see
Original 1974 Japanese version is the BEST!! in my opinion. New one changed too many things. And 2202 was really bad compared to the old yamato 2, original yamato 2 was the best season!
Nice! Can you do one of these on Dragonball Z vs Dragonball Z Kai?
Sadly I can't because I have never watched any Dragonball
thanks
Is Yamato '73 available as a straight dub of the original Japanese (as opposed to the somewhat Americanized "Star Blazers")? Or do I need to watch a subbed version to see it in its original form?
I think Star Blazers is the only dubbed version, so if you want the original Japanese story, you'll have to go with the sub
I miss the voices of the old English dub.
I have the original series but both look great I'll have to check out the new version
Nice. The new one is definitely worth a watch
Acho não da compara por ser produções de época diferente. Mas novas se destacam bem, principalmente 2199. Eu fico dividido.
Talvez logo tenhamos 2205.
Both are great. However 2199 is just a little better. The original only had one woman on the Yamato/Argo while the 2199 had several woman characters. More believable. 2199 does a better job telling the characters story. This is one of the rare instances where the reimagined is a little better then the original.
I agree, though I wouldn't use modern sensibilities as an argument in this case. Having few if any women on board would have made a lot more sense to people back in the 70s. But yes I do appreciate that they expanded and fleshed out the staff a lot more in 2199
@@AnimeTopScholar Fun Fact: in the original Yamato series, there was about a baker's dozen of female characters, but they got cut out in (Americanized) Starblazers edit. While they were given scant screen-time, the fact that there was a visible female component to the Yamato's crew was a BFD in 1970's Japan.
@@ironwolfF1 Nice fun fact.
I don't really know much about the changes made to Starblazers tbh, as I never watched it and don't intend to.
I've watched all of the original and I'm almost done the first season of 2199! I definetly prefer the original so far! The original is just perfect! The new one ruined a few things after seeing the original in my opinion, the reboot is good but it's not as good as the original! I'm only 13 and my dad told me he used to watch the original as a kid, the remake changed so many things that it made me mad, but it's getting better, but original forever!! I was also kinda mad how they made Yuki kinda rude at first in 2199 cause shes supposed to be sweet, but adding more girls was great! Also 2202 was based off the movie "farewell to yamato" which was an alternate storyline to season 2, where they all died, and Teresa was different and never fell in love with shima, which I was sad about, I definitely prefer the old one, but the new one is very good in it's own way!
Both but I really love 2199.
Wait what did it fix about the ending? I've seen both but it was a long time ago.
you have the first music, (0:00 to 1:29)? to hear that please, because the original note is DO but in your video is DOm. Please.
At least Yamato 2199 broke the curse of the third bridge from the original series... and more important that during entire voyage to Iscandar and back they did everything possible to reduce casualties on Yamato to minimum... while original series wasn't shy to kill many crew members of the ship.
I like the original one. That's old school anime style. I watched it back in 1979 at 8 years old. I love the artwork, animation original voice actors(Ken Meseroll/Wildstar, Tom Tweety/Venture, Amy Howard/Nova, Eddie Allen/Desslok/Dash, etc)and plot better than the remake. The remake is to modernize in animation and they added new characters that didn't appeal to me. That series in 1974 didn't have a great impact on the audience until 1977 when Star Wars was released, it got their attention and wanted more science fiction and Space Battleship Yamato came back with the series edited into a 2 hour movie and Yamato boom was born. Watch the dvd documentary Space Battleship Yamato: Making of an Anime Legend. It has lots of history and info about how the series were created and their success.
The remake is god damn fantastic. I watched it for the first time.
You are slightly wrong about the Yamato in 2199. She is not the sunken battleship but one purposed built for the Izumo plan. The superstructure that was visible was a decoy as they built this ship underground near the surface. They changed over to the Yamato plan a few years before 2199 when Iscandar sent help to build the wave motion engine.
I like both but agree 2199 is better since it allows ship battles move in 3D then up down side to side. Barrel rolls in space can't beat that.
I think Yamato 2199 is more enjoyable to watch, while the cartoon version is more "imaginative".
-The CGI effects used on Yamato 2199 is comparable to Star Trek movies, while the old series has traditional Japanese cartoon hand-drawn style.
- Updated/ futuristic ship design in Yamato 2199 (the rotatory hanger being the coolest)
- Yamato 2199 has a fast-paced simplified plot (like an extended movie), while the old version is more detailed (like a novel).
- Yamato 2199 has less-to-none fan service (which I think is appropriate as a war "movie") while the old series is filled with unexplainable ecchi-ness.
p.s. I can't argue that Yamato 2199 has better "spacesuits"... totally "family-friendly" !!! (nosebleeds)
I'm also a fan of the spacesuits in 2199.... for space travel reasons of course... >_>
The only complain I have from 2199, which is a big one and really makes it hard for me to say 2199 was better than the original, is the story of Kodai's brother. In the original, we find him on Iskandar. In the new one, we don't find him anywhere. This was so important for Susumu in the original series and made for some heart warming very moving scenes, which don't exist in 2199.
Other than that, 2199 is a lot better than the original and a huge improvement.
Yeah I can see that
@1tiercel Exactly. I would have preferred if he wasn't dead. The scene where Susumu meets Mamoru is one of the most touching in any medium.
Unfortunately, I thought 2202 was nowhere near as good as 2199, They should have hewed more towards Series 2 rather than Movie 2, imo. It wasn't terrible but there are some questionable decisions they made during the construction of the story. (Basically sidelining the newer crewmembers introduced in 2199, The Wave Motion Gun Spam, Desler's highly unbelievable "Redemption", and Yamamoto's plot armor for a few) Glad they righted the course, so to speak, in 2205, which I thought was great.
Who remembers 2202?
Watch both.
I'd love to watch the whole original series but I literally cannot find it anywhere. It even seems impossible to google because every search result is just the remake.
anyone know where to watch the original?