WHAT'S GONE WRONG? - Everton 2-0 Liverpool reaction
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- WHAT'S GONE WRONG? - Everton 2-0 Liverpool reaction
Dan and Jamie discuss where it went wrong for Liverpool this season as The Reds went from chasing a quadruple to crashing out of the FA Cup, Europa League and likely out of the title race following defeat at Goodison Park.
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These bunch of players have mentally checked out and let down Klopp massively in his final season. They've given up so easily on the title race. So so disappointing.
Klopp has let them down also. Team selections have been terrible. Constantly playing players who are out of form and not ones who are in form.
@@matttrounce2321Also failing to set up the defence properly, hence why keep conceding first and in general keep conceding so many piss easy goals.
Pfft. Its klopp fault bro. Do you really have short memory and forgets that lfc finish out of top 4 with the team that he have full control off. Klopp and lfc fan that is deluded enough to think thst lfc gonna do a quad deserves this. Losing to a shite utd team in fac cup and relegation fodder everton is a fitting goodbye to klopp
That’s too simplistic. They’re just not good enough. A few players form dipped post injury, Jones, Salah, Szobo, Trent, Jota being away has killed us
Ffs, everyone else's fault but Klopp's. Klopp persists in the defensive set up that's failing, in playing players out of position, in persisting with people who can't score, in having no plan B and having no clue how to change a game that's getting away from him.
Our recruitment ever since Edwards originally left has been crap. Our tactical gameplan ever since 2020 has been crap.
Just look at our signings strike rate since Edwards resigned as DoF:
* Nunez - hasn't hit the mark
* Diaz - hasn't hit the mark
* Gakpo - hasn't hit the mark
* Szobo - completely vanished in 2024
* Endo - admirable effort but not good enough
* Gravenberch - hasn't hit the mark
MacAllister is our only recent recruitment success story if you look at it in the cold light of day.
And as for our style and gameplan, the Klopp's heavy metal act disappeared stage left a long time ago. Our press is rubbish, we pass the passing's sake, and our defenders stand off everyone.
So why are even so fatigued and injured all the time?
I'm fed up with it.
It has gone downhill ever since that FA Cup defeat to Yanited at OT.
Don’t use that yanited word as a Liverpool. Scum is sufficient
Exactly, we've been crap since losing in the FA Cup to those Manc scumbags.
@@jakehowie442its a fitting goodbye to klopp. Losing to both united and eventon. Cement klopp legacy as pep footnote
@@jakehowie442 don’t cry
One thing nobody is talking about is that that midfield rebuild should have happened a season or two earlier, then those boys would have been much more bedded in by now
It was pathetic. Tippy tappying the ball around the back, players taking too long on the ball, zero speed of play, players not making any runs. Useless.
Salah must go, Nunez as well. Salah has DONE NOTHING IN MONTHS!!
Nunez on the wing is a different prospect. We need salah gone badly.
We had the chances but the ball just bounced off Nunez, Diaz and Salah. Did anybody tell the players this was the derby?
The injuries have caught up on us. We have a mixture of players who have played too many games, players who are not match fit and players who have not got into a rhythm. All season we’ve had someone who has stepped up to deliver the moments, in most recent times it was supposed to be Jota, but his injuries have killed us.
We’re in a horrible period where we do all the hard work, create the chances for the forward line to fluff it. That’s disheartening for everyone, and bit by bit, doubt creeps in.
No belief No commitment
We've looked fucking exhausted since coming back from the international break which was the opposite of what I expected.
I always pushed back on the idea that our late wins were lucky because they weren't, klopp has said all season part of our plan is to be able to outwork the opponent so they can't match our legs across 90 minutes and we've looked so much better in so many second halves this season and particularly in the last half hour of games where you can see that plan working.
But even if those wins weren't down to luck the amount of effort we've had to put into so many of them was just unsustainable for a title challenge, especially with the injuries we've had. Arsenal and City have had so many games this season that they can just take their foot off the gas because they score early, for us it was the complete opposite.
Top 4 and a trophy at the start of the season would have been absolutely fine and we have nearly achieved that.
We got ourselves into a position of competing for the title but have fell short. Players out of form during a vital period and not enough goals being scored from us.
We have conceded goals since the start of the season but we always found a way to turn the game around and win it. Nothing has changed in this regard apart from not being able to score goals ourselves.
Klopp looks tired and counting down the days. Players look tired too. Let’s see how many wins we can get from our 4 remaining games.
Summer will be interesting. New manager and the possibility of selling Salah. Nunez can go too!
I also hope the new manager plays Trent in midfield next season.
Jürgen announced his retirement too early. Should have been end of the season.
I think there was a leak unfortunately.
Gakpo and jota are the only 2 forwards that should stay
People questioning klopp really need to give their heads a wobble. How can he predict Szobo ("signing of the season" at some point, the new Gerrard) falling off a cliff. More Salah dreadful after afcon, Nunez rubbish, Jota gets back for a game or two gets injured. This is what happens when you over archive.
Nah thats what happens when you have bad luck. Overachieved my ass!! Weve won literally everything except the europa league, and you say that overachieving? Grow a pair.
What do you expect when he is constantly starting players who our way out of form and the ones who are playing better sit on the bench. Both players and klopp to blame
Truth is missed chances by our frontline have converted into poor results which ultimately have caused the team to lose the belief in getting the necessary results. Basically, due to a number of reasons, our frontline have failed us when it mattered most, just look at where have the goals come from lately when we’ve won games. Had Jota stayed fit in the last couple of months we’d likely still be in them 3 competitions, unfortunately it’s not been the case.
A simple fact. Last year we said we could not defend, and TAA was bad. This season the same , we simply do not defend. VVD as not won headers and made clearances.. Its was the Defense that Cost us at United in the Cup, it was the defense that cost us 2 points at United in the League. VVD as good as cost us 3 points at Newcastle that Nunez rescued. The Defense cost us at Palace, and again tonight, like VVD cost us at Arsenal... You can not expect our forwards to keep bailing out are shocking defense and it is trully shocking. Its time we learn to defend
Wr can't defend and we can't finish chances. Put those together and it's a pretty hideous place to be!
Then in games like last night we don't even make as many chances. The summer needs to come around quickly
@@aotea6983 Klopp rebuilt a Midfield, but we did not rebuild the defense that was dreadful last season. I can not defend us missing so many chances, all you can require of a striker is he hits the target, , if the keeper blocks saves it. I can not imagine being a forward at LFc, when you know your own defense is going to concede goals and can not defend corners, crosses or throw ins.. .. When VVD was sent of at Newcastle and TAA gave a beautiful pass to AnthonY Gordon, I assumed we would lose, but Alisson, Gomez, Matip and Nunez won the points, and then the next matches against Villa and Wolves with No VVD, we won them both with ease, defense was Gomez and Matip... Matip is so underrated by our supporters and he as been a massive miss
Cant help but wonder if the early announcement of klopp leaving and the heightened emotions has led to this fall off due to mental burn out?
it 1000% has.
It didnt show at first, but with each comp exit the pressure (with the knowledge that this is his last season) has grown exponentially.
You could also argue that the extra effort the players put in during those initial weeks of the announcement contributed to the mini injury crisis in Jan/Feb.
A million percent. It was the absolute mental pressure and I think they should have kept a lid on it and now we don’t yet know who it will be. Crushing to the team pysche and its why we are seeing this tragedy unfolding when we all wanted a legacy and it was and is too much for them. ❤this club YNWA
no leaders on the pitch vvd is no captain tonight was disgusting no fight no spirit nothing
Nunez isn't good enough, too inconsistent, he smashes it at the keeper every chance he gets....
Nunez as scored goals and Mde goals. What we have not had is defenders who can defend, and VVD is the biggest culprit, he won nothing again tonight, like he won nothing in both United Games, nothing aginst Palac and again tonight. VVD sneding off at Newcatsle was only rescued by Nunez
@@ToniPhillips-tc9clif the attackers can finish we win the league, simple
@@Do27gg BS if we lose the title by 2 points , it comes down to Place and Everton when a clean sheet is two points
@@ToniPhillips-tc9clNunez has the worst conversion rate out of every striker across the top 5 leagues in European football, he literally has a 20% conversion rate, yes the whole team should be ashamed but realistically when your chasing a title what good is a striker who needs 5 shots on target just to score one
@@Coomslayer9000 You have to be serious,the defense in 3 of the last 4 game as cost us 5 points, it is about collecting points. AT Man Utd, the defense gave away 2 points, against Palace they gave away a point , tonight they gave away a point, that is 4 pints in 3 matches//Klopp was getting so angry at Man United, as he could see the defense were not even doing the basics and then it means the attack have to start again, when there is no need...
In the covid season we had a load of injuries and after the 7-0 Palace game a number of players started to return and that was the moment the wheels fell off. Yes the cbs were still out but midfielders game back.
We end up fighting on adrenaline, pulling it all together and then relax when the players return but they aren't match fit and it all turns to crap. Seen it before which makes this even harder
I think Klopp's style of being the fitter and harder working team on the field is unsustainable if you want to go for 90 points every season. The players' legs have fallen off and with tired legs come bad passing, bad finishing and endless injuries, and that's what we're seeing. We don't have a midfield with runners like Milly, Gini, Hendo and Lallana anymore. You can't sign skillful and creative players like Mac and Szobo and expect the same, they're not built for it and i bet they don't want to be running around all game, they are ballers. We should've changed up to a quicker passing side, make the other team run around and chase us with the players we signed or should have signed players whose game relies on their legs
Kloppo's been great and I'll miss him. Just a shame he's gone out this way
Klopp had been found out. He does not know how to manage and rotate his squad. He runs his squad ragged, which is why they falter at the end of seasons or lose so many finals. He only uses players like Bagetich, Bradley, Quanseh, when his hand his forced. Injuring them in the process, too.
It's not 'genius' It's cos he has no other choice
We've all been duped. Klopps been driving a car with only enough fuel in it to get you three quarters of the way there.
Too many failures over the years is not just down to luck.
Klopp's been brilliant overall of course, but one of his flaws is sticking with players who are out of form and burnt out. That cost us last season and he didn't learn.
Where is all that togetherness and show of mental strength against Tottenham in that 2-1 defeat? We can't just blame it on fatigue. Arsenal plays more intensely in defense and attack than Liverpool. They play with the same 11 pretty much all week and still play with so much intensity. We look like a team that has been told to go out there and express themselves. Klopp has been great but those motivational speeches have run their course.
What’s gone wrong is Nunez is the worst finisher we’ve ever had and he needs to be sold asap!
No one will buy him mate. Why buy a forward who can't finish.
He scored 18 goals this season..should score few more,yes...but last few games salah,diaz etc. missed more chances than nunez himself to end our season.
@bobpadok5331 Honestly, it's all reactionary m I'm guilty of that, too. He has scored big goals over the season. I think the big chances he is missing is what's sticking in the fans head. Haaland, funny enough, has missed more bug chances than Nunez.
In the end, the team ran out of gas. We weren't even supposed to be challenging for the league, especially after how last year went. New midfield, injuries we couldn't overcome, and and a compacted schedule. Just don't have the squad depth compared to arsenal or city yet. Just wish the derby was a proper send off.
@@DanNguyen-ey5tw Nunez would be better suited on the wing to be honest.
@@andybyrne50yeah I agree! If I remember correctly, he naturally played on the left with benfica no? So would be proper to get him time there. Maybe slott or whoever they get can make that move and in the summer we can get a legit 9 .
Think we’ve been over performing all season and we’ve just run out of steam we had massive changes won a trophy and can still finish top 3 not a bad year all in all ynwa
Salah, Robertson, Jones, Tsimikas, Szoboszlai, Gravenberch, Endo, Nunez - all need to go.
I get the feeling that the closer to the end of the season they come
the more many of them have had their heads filled with...
what's going to happen to me? where will I fit in whatever is coming?
will this new coach want something new & what? should I start
to think about a move? all this kind of stuff in their collective heads
basically decreases their desire, fight, willingness as a team etc etc etc ?
The players lost their fight. They allowed the setbacks to get inside their heads. Key players lost form due to tiredness or injury. I would have like to see Jayden Danns a bit more. At least he's hungry and knows where the goal is. Our forward line needs a rebuild.
Imagine being filled with hope and belief by the best football leader this club has known. Then take that away. Add the uncertainty of a future with anyone else who will try to fill those shoes. Multiply that by the not knowing who that will be. = the result of what is unfolding and the chaos it brings
Klopp’s system doesn’t cater to a 50-60 game season. Players are knackered
It all went wrong in the summer. 7 players out and 4 in on top of a disgraceful season last year - what were fans expecting?
I’ve been a big nunez supporter but ffs 🤦🏻♂️ time to offload
Offload Salah as well while youre at it. He is a ghost of himself.
@@InstigatorDJalways after afcon he becomes shite
I'm disappointed like you. Thought Nunez will be better. But he's going from bad to worst
Yeah Loh bro 👊
@@RFYWCEither he's on fire or absolute shit, there is no in between...
Forget wining anything when your 80m striker can only hit the frame off the goal or the goal keeper
McAllister was brilliant when Endo played behind him. Then what does Klopp go and do? He drops Endo. Klopp is to blame.
Klopp sticking by his favorites like salah ..hes been done for 2 seasons
Think Jurgen has tried to protect the young lads who saved us in January but their fresh legs helped get us the points. Disappointing to see it end this way. Wasn’t able to watch the match but sounds like the players are running in sand. If you figure the entertainment value of a season where you still had hope for 34 out of 38 matches, not too bad, provided we qualify for the CL. YNWA
imagine telling us liverpool fans in January we'd be out of the FA cup and premier league title race by our two fierce rivals 😢what's happened to this team
Many things have went wrong. Poor team selections multiple times in the last month, players who have had to play loads because of injury crisis look wrecked, players coming back from injury obviously aren’t gonna be flowing right, all the forwards are cold at the same time, players who are supposed to be our best players are underperforming massively. Tactically we have been outdone by united, Everton and Atalanta within 1 month
All season have been leaking goals, never mind the miss firing front three, 3rd place not guaranteed, New coach coming in, transition period and big changes needed!
No Gakpo and Jota was a blow. We didn't get any luck in front of goal but that's it fecked.
Poor tactics and out of form players.
Not getting in quality players for Klopps system.
Pep and Klopp haven’t worked on being defensively solid.
The midfield rebuild needs work they can’t control games or create good chances.
Jota is the only clinical striker and he’s injury prone so the forward line needs to be balanced. You can’t play Diaz Nunez and Salah at the same time neither are clinical and need a million opportunities to score 1 goal.
Honestly heartbroken. What a capitulation. Klopps last season ending with a dud. Is Salah even fit??
Already thinking about new recruits in the summer.
Centre Back
Left Back
Defensive midfield player
Forward to replace Salah
Forward to replace Nunez if sold
Sign Trent and VVD on longer term contracts.
Sell Salah and Nunez and Tsmikas. Thiago and Matip to leave on a free.
A drop off??? This has been a total capitulation. The players have thrown in the towel across all competitions.
Absolutely embarrassing and shameful.
Nunez is a complete duffer.
Let’s be honest guys, we all questioned how good we ACTUALLY were for most of the season. We rode our luck. Jones and Jota were flying pre-injuries. Our front three are now all Salah-types who score when they’re not supposed to and miss sitters every week. Jones, even physically, looked a shadow of himself last night. Szobo has been off it since early in the season. We’re suddenly unable to beat a man so have to fall back on our system. It was so depressing watching the lads run backwards and go side to side last night. No penetration, no end product
We were better when we had the injuries and were playing the kids. Need to bounce back quick as top 4 isn't done yet.
Another season with Klopp where we collapse before the end of the season. No coincidence is it, having thia recprd with Klopp.
My worry now though is the squad ia ao farigued, next aeason is going to be tough for any manager.
Liverpool have choked but we have overchieved this season. We needed another DMF to help Endo but FSG are very stingy with money. Curtis Jones & Nunez are not good enough Klopp has overchieved with Liverpool FSG are in big trouble when Klopp leaves.
The young players, the kids were the only players who played with hearts.
When van dijk decided that he doesnt care anymore.
It’s unfair to burden any new manager with the Darwin Nunez issue and problem. 2 seasons now of his play and many of us are not happy to give him a third season to improve
Ever since we lost the fa cup game to United, our confidence has dropped in front of goal
So strange that they appear to have given up. The frailties are now being cruelly exposed. Missing chance after chance. Questions now hanging over all sorts of players especially up front.
We need 3 players a number 6 a centre half and a centre forward. Sell Salah and Diaz ,put Nunez on the left but ffs sign a striker who CAN hit a barn door with a banjo.
4:21 gee is this guy waffling and sugarcoating or what?
"80 something points would win the league in the 90s yanno"
"Well the wheels haven't exactly fallen off, the back two tyres have just kinda popped"
🤦♂️
Wen the players stopped showing up and fighting theyve let everyone down i dont mind losing , that happens but to not show fight heart passion fight that should be a minimum and theyve shown nothing its embarrassing and they should be ashamed.
Are3 best results of the season have been Newcastle away, Villa at Home, and Wolves away and in nthois games we won them without VVD, and that is telling
It all went wrong in FA Cup vs Manure Utd
We haven't replaced many and farbinho goals
need new manager.new captain..new goalscorers..
Absolutely schoolyard goal… we paniced
Game could have gone either way, Liverpool had 5 chances. Weren’t particularly creative though. Mac Allister needed to be forward. Why? My gut says that Konate + Endo do not play well together. Konate had to start, high pressure game. Can’t let an already fragile (although more talented ) Quansah make another mistake especially in this game. Feels bad.
Klopp should have kept his decision to leave, until the end of the season.
A lot needs to change, we can’t keep sleep walking into games and using 100% energy to win last minute, we’re seeing now it’s not sustainable.
Salah should go because we need the money.
We need to look at Konate because his fitness is a huge problem. A settled defence winds tittles, you can’t chop and change every week.
Keep him around but he can’t be first choice.
Whoever the new coach is needs to be defensively sound, look at Arsenal and City, they hardly ever go behind in games.
Nunez has one more season for me, but I wouldn’t her upset if he went.
Zero speed in the play zero tempo thousand years on the ball no intensity on the counter and a make as if you pressing mindset without actually tackling, zero build up just long ball long ball this is not the Liverpool way
Arsenal Look Way Better Drilled Than Us, They Have All Season. Winter Part Of The Season Killed The Energy Of This Team.
I'd keep Alisson, Van Dijk, Trent, Mac Allister, and Jota...everyone else can go. Squad is nowhere near good enough to compete across a whole season with Arsenal and Man City
Far too many variations and partners for VVD.
I think klopp ran out of gas. He might have something with his wife or his mum coming. He looks exhausted. He basically admitted today in the interview. I love this club. I love these players, I love Klopp. Sometimes it doesnt work. I believe we will be fine. We are close to our perch again
Injuries are an issue. I think it was a bad decision to let Salah go play AfCon. We should have beaten united twice, arsenal at home and city at home.
Finishing outside of top 4 last season should have been a warning sign that klopp gonna end up as pep footnote..tbh i never thought a shite utd team and relegation fodder everton gonna do their part in making sure that klopp will leave lfc on a low..
the player
People are doing to us what we would love everyone to do against city. Thats not an excuse but there are glimpses that this will come to be how city get toppled if others realise this. We are not as confident as city at the back we dont carry the ball well at the back. Some of our players havent shown the consistency that citys backs have shown. Im not sure why they appear on their best to equal any of city players… just not as often. Maybe thats it. Weve lost winning muscle memory that guys like Fab and Ginny and Mane and Millie and Hendo provided in their heyday.
Where did it all go wrong? UB40 😮
Tired of seeing Nunez blamed.... he was firing before Salah returned....2 shots both on target from Nunez.... Salah had 7....Today, if we don't start Salah and CJ we win the match.... Liverpool scoring 0 in the prem, has only happened in matches he started...... Unpopular opinion: Salahs return from injury has derailed our szn
don't get me wrong Nunez needs to smoke weed or something...he needs to calm down and stop racing....and stop trying to shoot as hard as possible every time...
this match was fixed.
They used to be able to have some wiggle room because they would score. Now they don't.
Darwin has to go.
Worst conversion rate of any striker in Europes top 5 league and we call him Captain Chaos? Captain Calamity more like.
@@Irisishunterbecause he can be very good, just lost patience
@@Do27gghis conversion rate tells a different story, Harry maguire has scored more goals than Nunez throughout the whole month and maguire isn’t even a bloody striker
@@Coomslayer9000 easy to forget the Newcastle game etc he has been world class at moments but so can a lot of top players. He’s not good enough for challenging titles
Nunez Salah Diaz is the major problem
We concede too much...and in big matches we did plenty of horrific errors...we could end arsenal season...allison fucked it, qunsah against united...both goals we conceded against city were flops etc.
We need to sell them if they perform badly 😮
And because we are Liverpool things will go Wright again
season over bye
Slot!!! Good luck
Sorry to say but Salah and Virgil out. We need to get rid of deadwood now sadly
Id rather see Joe Gomez up front than Nunez
Salah was not viaible on the pitch. Wait! Hes behind you 🤣 Celebrating 😂May be after scoring a PENALTY.
Players need to remember that they will be stuffed at 35 with 50 years of life left to fill. even the great Neville Southall sue his own daughter for 50k for his old medals-sad.Dele has 2 rolls Royce's in 10 years time he will be skint. These guys will be the same when they go from hero to zero overnight
DarNOwin, Diaz runner nosense, macalister is embarrassing
I’m starting to think that these shit performances are actually our level and we are actually punching above our weight… we are literally shit and I’m sick and tired of playing 433 with no change ever in tactics when things are constantly going wrong
Can't wait till klopp goes wish he could leave now and we sign a manager next week and then start selling most of that crap we have on the pitch or should I say injured Liverpool don't know how to win been crap since fa cup against UTD klopp should of played the kids they are more hungry
Since the United game we've won 5 from 11, Win percentage 45% most Managers would be fired for that Win %
Its damaged Jürgens legacy unfortunately.
Still love him though.
Players have very weak mentalities and can't handle pressure
Klopp should've left a few years ago, probably after the last UCL final loss. That would've made it 7 years which is what he had at his other clubs.
Things have gone stale since, he's looked burnt out since and I would've happily traded in that one mickey mouse cup for a different approach and fresh ideas.
Everton were not good. We were fuckin diabolical
Story of all our loses and draws
Klopp is a bottler , bottled 3 titles to Everton end of .
It was the players
New man needs to buy a striker.
Stfu about a quad ...it was never on
Nunez needs to go absolutely useless
Get rid of all of these players!
3 European lost finals , klopp is serial loser