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  • @ApologiaStudios
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    • @TexterEX
      @TexterEX Před rokem +5

      Hi Jeff, that was a really good debate. Where did you and your friend get your cross necklaces from? I would like to buy one.

    • @MLK7788
      @MLK7788 Před rokem +14

      U did amazing! Bottom line is he wants to keep his sin and he's trying to justify it. Homosexuality is a sin and it clearly says DO NOT BE DECIEVED! that they won't enter the kingdom along with others

    • @dansaber4427
      @dansaber4427 Před rokem +3

      @@MLK7788 if you believe the Bible is true what did God say about eating from the Tree of knowledge? Do you believe that?

    • @dansaber4427
      @dansaber4427 Před rokem +3

      @@lpp297 are you reading the Bible to know good and evil or is it just literature to you?

    • @chrisa3289
      @chrisa3289 Před rokem +3

      Keep up the good work. God bless.

  • @wernerclaassen4787
    @wernerclaassen4787 Před rokem +6416

    Let us pray for this young man. As a former homosexual, who was "married" for 5 years to another man, I was caught in the same spiritual and theological darkness.... 8 Years clean and born again by the power of the Holy Spirit, there is still a lot of hope for him and others still blinded by these lies. Pray, pray and pray. Share the truth of the Scriptures with him, just keep on! Those that were upfront with me from the start and remained loving but firm with the Truth played a huge role in Jesus opening my eyes. Sola Deo Gloria!!!!

    • @beachgirl5316
      @beachgirl5316 Před rokem +224

      Holy Spirit can change your life when you seek him . I'm glad your on a righteous path now , Praise Jesus

    • @lharrrybuggyns8396
      @lharrrybuggyns8396 Před rokem +101

      God bless you, Werner!

    • @Andreas1138
      @Andreas1138 Před rokem +133

      Reading your comment re-strengthens me to keep praying for my sister in law. Having contact with her is pretty much impossible for several reasons but it's the very least I can do.

    • @christelleb470
      @christelleb470 Před rokem +18

      ❤️

    • @polodown4729
      @polodown4729 Před rokem +18

      Amen

  • @skippy8696
    @skippy8696 Před rokem +2787

    This video proves, categorically, what I've been saying about liberal/LGBT theology forever now -- they're not seeking repentance, they're seeking validation.

    • @SJQuirke
      @SJQuirke Před rokem +70

      And ascendancy

    • @ProudChristian73
      @ProudChristian73 Před rokem

      I’ve been saying the same! I also believe their conscience is being convicted and they are struggling tremendously with it, so much so that the lgbtq society they have created isn’t so much about convincing us they were “created” like that, but to convince themselves in hopes it will quiet their conscience. It won’t, only humbly going to the Lord in complete repentance and placing your faith in Jesus will remove the conviction of your conscience! It will also only remove it until you sin again and then it will be back. That’s what they meant by the law being written on our hearts! Take care and God Bless!

    • @hosea4660
      @hosea4660 Před rokem

      This is what happens when Christians teach that the Law no longer applies and we do not have to keep the commandments.

    • @perezhousenashville
      @perezhousenashville Před rokem +3

      Then you don’t know what the Greek work, repent/metanioa means. You just believe what reformed theology tells you it means. Which is the great Spand of church history, the reformation is pretty recent.

    • @thebonniemonroeshow3708
      @thebonniemonroeshow3708 Před rokem +7

      They’re seeking deliverance. God is not a respecter of persons. God has parted the Red Sea for a whole community of people & the church is missing it. So sad. God purify our hearts so we can see YOU.

  • @lonigraham2647
    @lonigraham2647 Před 7 měsíci +194

    The way Brandon switched from "a follower of Christ" to "identifies as a follower of Christ" mid-sentence was more telling than he could have possibly put into words.

    • @RobbDepp
      @RobbDepp Před 7 měsíci +5

      Straight up.

    • @wallywest001
      @wallywest001 Před 6 měsíci

      I Caught That Too. He is a false teacher and an antichrist who is doing the desires of his father The Devil. Not trying to Judge but he sounds like a Vessel of Wrath God has prepared for destruction.

    • @evanstein3011
      @evanstein3011 Před 5 měsíci +10

      Everything with progressives is a matter of "identity." This guy uses every single SJW buzzword.

    • @thefoundfountain1855
      @thefoundfountain1855 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Every time I hear someone say "identifies" I know debate is useless since that person does not believe in truth. If you don't believe God, that created the whole universe from nothing, can keep His word in order and exactly how He wants it, then how will you ever find HIS truth? This Brandon is not only willfully blind, but is also leading the lost with him. Scary!

  • @FightForTruthMedia
    @FightForTruthMedia Před rokem +1074

    Brandan: We can't know objective morality.
    Also Brandan: I think some of the positions you hold are morally reprehensible.

    • @sharajoel0823
      @sharajoel0823 Před rokem +23

      🤣

    • @cisuminocisumino3250
      @cisuminocisumino3250 Před rokem +45

      Ey, fight for truth, what are you doing here, haven't you demolished Brandan enough, show some mercy man 🤣

    • @katyasehryn8810
      @katyasehryn8810 Před rokem +9

      Brilliant!

    • @Axisearth
      @Axisearth Před rokem +8

      Exactly!

    • @aaron8229
      @aaron8229 Před rokem

      No, you're being too black and white and trying to push him into a category of your own making that he doesnt agree with...........😂😂 💀
      (Ps if yoy watched the video you'll know what im referencing)

  • @Zacattack2077
    @Zacattack2077 Před rokem +1072

    It’s tough at times but as someone who struggles with same sex attraction, I have chosen to pick up cross and deny myself daily. My identity is in Christ and not in what a small part of me feels. It’s a walk every day, but God does lighten the load and I have never felt closer to my creator.
    I tried so hard to justify the lifestyle but my conviction has lead me to where I am now. My heart goes out to all who struggle with SSA. You’re not alone, you’re not seen as less than in the eyes of God. Pray to him, he wants to hear from you ❤
    For reasons that we may never fully understand, I believe that God calls some of us to be single. His plan for me can certainly change because he is in control of all things, but in the mean time, I am being fulfilled in my walk with him.

    • @eddiejones5702
      @eddiejones5702 Před rokem +89

      Amen brutha! I struggle too, and GOD has been faithful to me my whole life! Even before I got saved! By the grace of GOD I never went into the lifestyle, but the struggle is real. This dude Brandon is so deceived it ain't funny! Satanic deception ain't no joke! It well lead you straight to hell! The Bible calls it "strong delusion" in 2 THESSALONIANS. SELAH. GOD bless you man. Pray for me, as I pray for you!

    • @tinsakamp
      @tinsakamp Před rokem +50

      Praying for you brother!! 🙏🏼 thank you for your transparency!! It needs to be talked about! It's sin struggle just like all of us struggle. Some sin is harder than others but God sees sin as sin! Shalom brother!!

    • @theothersideofthestory1594
      @theothersideofthestory1594 Před rokem +40

      Praise God!! Walk by the spirit and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh my friend. Remain close to Jesus and his ways and the enemy will flee from you.

    • @brandiehopkins3538
      @brandiehopkins3538 Před rokem +30

      Praise God and thank you for being vulnerable to share your struggles! You are living proof people can and DO live with it and stay true to God. We can't let sin define ourselves.

    • @Zacattack2077
      @Zacattack2077 Před rokem +29

      Thank you all for the kind words

  • @Sarah-su8ju
    @Sarah-su8ju Před 6 měsíci +423

    41 years old...lesbian all my life.....not anymore!!! THANK YOU JESUS!!!!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤

    • @MrAchilles121
      @MrAchilles121 Před 6 měsíci +7

      God bless you sister ❤

    • @Getthetruth5
      @Getthetruth5 Před 6 měsíci +7

      You are born again!!

    • @UstashaMe84
      @UstashaMe84 Před 5 měsíci +11

      I find this absolutely amazing and powerful. It just shows that when you walk with God, anything can be fixed.

    • @Getthetruth5
      @Getthetruth5 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@UstashaMe84 amen

    • @Secondrunnerup613
      @Secondrunnerup613 Před 4 měsíci

      Jesus is pagan idolatry

  • @markbarrett4482
    @markbarrett4482 Před 7 měsíci +58

    My heart breaks for this man, Brandon. I will pray for him. I've been a pastor for 30 years. I pastor a small rural church. I feel sorry for those who manipulate the world of God to justify their sin as this man clearly does. He has invented a god he feels comfortable with that he may justify his sin. He has no idea who God is, a God who is Holy and he will have to reckon with in the end. Pray for pastors Jeff and James as they fight these battles in such a public way. They are in the devil's crosshairs. Sola Deo Gloria!

  • @hunterking6033
    @hunterking6033 Před 8 měsíci +133

    I love how Brandon comes out and says straight off that he's a heretic. Boom, no need for debate. He says he doesn't believe in the Word of God. He's not a Christian. He's a false prophet.

    • @secretmessenger22
      @secretmessenger22 Před 17 dny

      It'd a weird thing, claiming to see he is unaware of how blind he is, it boggles my mind the weird mental gymnastics he stumbles over trying to claim he is Christian.

    • @carlosb.6851
      @carlosb.6851 Před 16 dny

      what a way to start the debate right?

    • @ChaseIrwin
      @ChaseIrwin Před 12 dny +1

      Perhaps not a False Prophet more of a False Teacher. I have not heard Brandon Prophesy before therefore he can't be a False Prophet.

  • @sharplikecheddar2
    @sharplikecheddar2 Před rokem +1340

    My first reaction toward Brandon’s theology was anger and spite.
    Quickly after I was moved to compassion and teared up realizing this is how I must have sounded and looked in the eyes of God prior to my call to repentance.
    Praying for Brandon.

    • @peterlucus2062
      @peterlucus2062 Před rokem +34

      ouch, stop it thats too convicting 😅

    • @gso1279
      @gso1279 Před rokem +28

      Same! I get so angry even righteously so at how he handles scripture and yet…his disrespectful bent against God brings me to tears as I think how close I was to following Rob Bell and how grateful I am God plucked me and pruned me from that and deepened my love for scripture

    • @chrissy1310
      @chrissy1310 Před rokem +15

      That was awesome!!! I felt the same way when I watched a smidge of one of his videos. I also was saved from new age Jesus thinking! Love the name by the way!!

    • @brianmeneses8717
      @brianmeneses8717 Před rokem +32

      This dude is lost man. Prayers for him and others who are lost as well

    • @silentcal275
      @silentcal275 Před rokem +5

      Same

  • @UncleA83
    @UncleA83 Před rokem +524

    “You’ve already rejected God’s authority we reject yours!” I felt that line! Preach!

    • @SM-JIL
      @SM-JIL Před rokem +2

      Love this too! Amen

    • @titikkoma8586
      @titikkoma8586 Před rokem +1

      John 15 : 12, My command is this.. love everyone as I have loved u u u u u !!!!

    • @eriktheprayer
      @eriktheprayer Před rokem +13

      6:55 and his answer is: "I would say I would be in alignment with a majority of other people." the debates over... this in itself ends the interview. he admits not to being christian by going with an idea because he believes most people and not simply acknowledge what is truly the truth. 2 boys don't make a baby, neither does 2 girls.

    • @Canadax25
      @Canadax25 Před rokem

      @@eriktheprayer LMAO You should be ashamed of yourself for defending a book that promotes slavery mass genocide and and eternal torture for a finite crime.

    • @EsiriE
      @EsiriE Před rokem +1

      I liked that too! Lol 💯

  • @aoalvidrez
    @aoalvidrez Před 11 měsíci +274

    I found this hard to stomach as a Christian. You can not pick and choose scripture to fit your needs or lifestyle. The scripture is not a buffet or menu that you pick what you need based on circumstances. Gods word is never changing, is not debatable it is above approach and will not be challenged or changed or added to. You guys are amazing and I’ve learned so much. You are so right in being harder on him because he will held to a higher standard being a False Prophet. We can not lean on our own understanding or feeling but on God’s Word.

    • @noneofyourbusinessatthistime
      @noneofyourbusinessatthistime Před 10 měsíci +11

      Man “I found this hard to stomach as a Christian” I didn’t believe your comment at first but man after watching…. We need Jesus if Brandon is preaching to people lol

    • @aoalvidrez
      @aoalvidrez Před 10 měsíci +8

      @@noneofyourbusinessatthistime I totally agree. I’ve watched another interview with him and he twist a lot of scripture and uses what he what’s but not all of it.

    • @loveisthekey5737
      @loveisthekey5737 Před 9 měsíci +3

      AMEN!!!

    • @nompumelolo
      @nompumelolo Před 9 měsíci +1

      AMEN!!

    • @CrucifixMMA
      @CrucifixMMA Před 9 měsíci +2

      That is all Christians do hahaha, pick and choose parts from a fiction book written by goat herders 😂

  • @Rose-xc7wz
    @Rose-xc7wz Před 10 měsíci +52

    I used to be bi, empty and severely depressed. After God redeemed me, I am no longer empty, struggle through tough questions about myself, my faith the churches I have been in and strengthened my faith in God, Jesus and the Bible and continue to grow and crucify the flush and carry my cross. May he learn to take up his cross and crucify the flesh because that is a lot of what is missing here. He forgets that it isn't all about everything he desires. Not all desires are Godly.

    • @bettc9089
      @bettc9089 Před 3 měsíci

      Hi! I would like to know more about your testimony, because my sister is engaging in this lifestyle and hasn't come out to me or my family so I don't know how to help her or approach this situation.

    • @Rose-xc7wz
      @Rose-xc7wz Před 3 měsíci +2

      @bettc9089 God draws us by hearing the word. I can not say it was always lovely for those around me but I needed to know there was hope in Christ. Not everyone needs the same. Some are tired of being judged but feel the condemnation on the inside. Others need to know they are actually sinners and need help because they can't save themselves.

    • @user-lr1ty2nr1g
      @user-lr1ty2nr1g Před 3 měsíci +1

      God bless you and may others see the truth especially in this crooked and lustful world

  • @elrocha1001
    @elrocha1001 Před rokem +411

    I grew up in a progressive christian church. I attended until I was 15 and let me tell you, those progressives were some of the kindest and least problematic people I ever met. To this day I have not found a church family as kind and genuinely welcoming as they are. However, as a teen I realized the cracks in their theology as the Spirit began to convict me when I attended service. I could literally feel something was wrong and I did not know what exactly because all I knew was liberal theology/progressivism. I was taught as a child that conservatives were evil people who want to molest me and judge me. It is no wonder I believed what I was told, it was extremely indoctrinating. However as a teen in my christian high school I learned from one of my teachers freshman year something I would never forget, "If you can find any contradiction in the Bible then forget the faith altogether because then it has no authority." It shocked me because I was taught that contradictions were normal and now I was learning that there were actually no contradictions if you read it correctly. Although my family is quite liberal, I still love them, as well as the people at that old church. However, I am definitely conservative now and I am so grateful to God he saved me from that progressive false gospel.

    • @samanthakwait8782
      @samanthakwait8782 Před rokem +26

      I think it’s interesting that you were told that conservatives would molest you when many conservatives think liberals are or are protecting pedophiles. It’s just interesting to see a generalized view that both sides have of each other

    • @simonb7208
      @simonb7208 Před rokem +3

      Beautiful testimony

    • @jackscalibur
      @jackscalibur Před rokem +1

      ​@@samanthakwait8782Agreed, and it's sad. I absolutely despise conformity to one side or the other as a Christian.

    • @Madiband
      @Madiband Před rokem +51

      I don’t find it shocking at all that those people were ‘appearing’ as the kindest and least problematic. When you agree with everyone, what is there to disagree on? However, at the end of the day, being agreeable IS problematic and unkind when it doesn’t align with the truth of scripture. Jesus says “they will hate you because of me.” We should be worried if we are not in opposition with a broken fallen world.

    • @lorimata-rodriguez1350
      @lorimata-rodriguez1350 Před rokem +6

      Such good testimonies on here (yours included). I want to write mine, but there is so much to write about THE ALMIGHTY; I don't even know where to begin. But I do know GOD GOT ME TO WHERE I AM NOW, AND I CANT TURN BACK TO WHO I USE TO BE. I know too much and I know HIS sovereignty is GOOD FOR ME.

  • @CharlieD.706
    @CharlieD.706 Před rokem +516

    “I don’t interpret it that way because it contradicts my lifestyle”
    Basically his whole argument.

    • @MildredGlutz
      @MildredGlutz Před rokem +15

      Lifestyle or rather addiction.

    • @justabunneh6490
      @justabunneh6490 Před rokem +4

      Literally the church on several topics regarding God's law.

    • @junkiedropouts3186
      @junkiedropouts3186 Před rokem +15

      Thanks for saving me 90 minutes of being annoyed

    • @kanji3945
      @kanji3945 Před rokem +7

      Exactly. We are living in the days now where ALOT of people have succumbed to a reprobate mindset. People are now thinking the bad is good and the good is bad. In all of MY 51 yrs, on this Earth I have never seen so many confused people. It is really sad,and the ONLY consolation i have in this world of madness is that Jesus said these things were going to happen. He proclaimed it. Recently, i did a post on quora and they took it down because I said there are ONLY two sexes, male and female. Period. The site called it "homophobic" so, now I'm homophobic for saying something that we ALL know is true. Wow.

    • @ShaggyTheClown17
      @ShaggyTheClown17 Před rokem +1

      ​@@justabunneh6490Like what?

  • @beccabenton7985
    @beccabenton7985 Před 10 měsíci +39

    It is sad and downright scary to see the lengths someone is willing to go in self-delusion, twisting/perverting Scripture, and arbitrary contextual argument, to justify their sexual sin. What's even more scary is that this person is leading others down the path of destruction....

    • @user-lr1ty2nr1g
      @user-lr1ty2nr1g Před 3 měsíci +3

      He is taking so many people to hell and praying that God will remove the scales from his eyes to know the truth

    • @EmoDKTsuchiya
      @EmoDKTsuchiya Před 2 měsíci +2

      The Devil is a liar

    • @Son-Of-David1990
      @Son-Of-David1990 Před 21 dnem

      I pray that Brandon will be humbled and see the error of his ways.

    • @secretmessenger22
      @secretmessenger22 Před 17 dny

      One thing that is sad is that he truly is apostate, having learned the truth he rejected it and now it very much looks like God has given him over, I can honestly say I've never seen anyone like this. Most of the prosperity preachers seem like wolves in sheep clothing, but I don't think they ever believed the truth. This brandon guy is on a whole other level and it is weird to witness.

  • @JonathanToole
    @JonathanToole Před 6 měsíci +30

    One problem I noticed is that the only way Brandan can argue is too just deny any claims that argue with his view.

  • @xxlonglivejody8403
    @xxlonglivejody8403 Před rokem +407

    “You’ve already rejected God’s authority, we reject yours.” - Jeff Durbin

    • @willardjr6257
      @willardjr6257 Před rokem +8

      Verry good quote

    • @slyfox1483
      @slyfox1483 Před rokem +3

      based

    • @ronkelley1490
      @ronkelley1490 Před rokem +3

      ​@JO Romans 1:18-32

    • @ronkelley1490
      @ronkelley1490 Před rokem +5

      @JO you can believe or reject it. But you cannot choose the eternal consequences of your rejection of Christ, a flaming Hell of torment for your sins against a Holy God. Repent and Believe the Gospel. 2 Corinthians 5:20-21, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.

    • @gravity111587
      @gravity111587 Před rokem +3

      ​@JO that is the arrogance of the perishing.

  • @EveOfSeduction
    @EveOfSeduction Před rokem +174

    "Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness, who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter."

    • @Kingrich_777
      @Kingrich_777 Před rokem +7

      Word for word bar for bar

    • @_7isaiah
      @_7isaiah Před rokem

      Is that from the bible?

    • @monsii2635
      @monsii2635 Před rokem +2

      ​@@_7isaiah Yes, it's in Isaiah 5:20-25

    • @HobbsAnimates
      @HobbsAnimates Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@_7isaiahit's happening in real time....look at how abortion (murder in the womb) is handled now adays..disgusting.

  • @matthewlincoln8194
    @matthewlincoln8194 Před 8 měsíci +23

    Great video and debate. Brendan's argument went off the rails the moment he said that he wasn't sure that there was an objective moral standard.
    If that's the case, then he has no way to justify any of his claims, as well as no basis to challenge Scripture.
    In essence, he defeated his own argument the moment he said that. I'm glad these two gentlemen didn't let him run from that.

  • @Georgie1660
    @Georgie1660 Před 8 měsíci +16

    Thank you for calling out and confronting the false teacher Brandon Robertson. We need more pastors and Christian’s who have the backbone to call out the apostate and false teachers.
    You cannot believe only the scriptures that you like and toss out what you don’t.
    Brandon needs to be set free.
    Thanks again Gentlemen for having the boldness to point out false teachers.
    Blessings!

  • @iama6834
    @iama6834 Před rokem +182

    If you spend 100k on justifying your sin, believe me you WILL find a way to justify your sin. Keep this young man in your prayers 🙏🏾

    • @kencobb1476
      @kencobb1476 Před rokem +6

      I was thinking along those same lines

    • @Noloyiso_M
      @Noloyiso_M Před rokem +4

      Listen!!! No one is spending all that time and money and admitting is was for a lie and waste. His position of authority is a mud slide. We need to plead with God for this man, because wow.

    • @XxViktorijaxX
      @XxViktorijaxX Před rokem

      Itching ears!!!

    • @alivewithchrist777
      @alivewithchrist777 Před rokem +2

      I see him as having a Paul conversion, pray for him

    • @kencobb1476
      @kencobb1476 Před rokem +1

      @@alivewithchrist777 I hope that’s the case.

  • @gemmabramley3748
    @gemmabramley3748 Před rokem +418

    I was a lesbian and was still married to my ex when I walked into my church. I was struggling with being a Christian and being gay and wanted both things. Until one night in my room crying out to God about it and he convinced me of my sin, I cried and cried and begged for forgiveness and asked Him to change me. I am now not attracted to women. Saying this I know and have watched testimonies of people still having the attraction to the same sex but are celibate due to their love for Jesus. The same as if you lied before giving your life to Jesus you continue to give the sin to God and repent to walk out your salvation (if you are still lying) for example, we are not all changed of all the past at the moment of conversion. Transformation can take a long time and we aren't perfect till we are with the Lord!
    Hope this makes sense 🙏🏼

    • @rog5184
      @rog5184 Před rokem +22

      I'm a celibate straight person, He is worthy ❤❤

    • @rog5184
      @rog5184 Před rokem +17

      @Samson Jr. me too, that sin almost took me down, praise Jesus

    • @MansterBear
      @MansterBear Před rokem +20

      Exactly. That’s why the whole “why would God let me have these desires if it was a sin?” Type arguments.
      I’m “naturally” attracted/lustful of women. That doesn’t mean it’s not sin and I shouldn’t fight it. I naturally want to lie of it I think it will benefit me, but it’s still a sin and I should run from it.
      So just bc some people are attracted to the same sex, doesn’t mean it’s not a sin and you shouldn’t fight it.

    • @firstnamelastname2552
      @firstnamelastname2552 Před rokem +7

      Grace and peace in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. God bless you, sister.

    • @bobopatchnosuke229
      @bobopatchnosuke229 Před rokem +3

      I'm glad you made the right choice.

  • @mountaindew7190
    @mountaindew7190 Před 8 měsíci +25

    Robertson clearly states at 6:00 that "perhaps there is a moral standard, but I don't believe we can know it objectively" then spends the rest of the debate claiming he didn't say that.

  • @lgdry90
    @lgdry90 Před 10 měsíci +38

    🤯. You gentlemen have a subscriber for life in me!! The conviction and discernment is on 100!

  • @graysonrowe9780
    @graysonrowe9780 Před rokem +119

    “They had 13 words for homosexuality because it was way more common!”
    “They had no concept of sexuality at that time!”
    -both comments made by Branden during thins video…

    • @Clairsmith123
      @Clairsmith123 Před 6 měsíci +4

      Thank you for pointing that out!

    • @rppiii6737
      @rppiii6737 Před 5 měsíci

      When God made Adam the dust of the earth he made him suitable to receive from the earth, food and air. When we take in food and air it brings forth life. When God took Adam and made Eve from his rib she is made to receive from Adam sexually and that brings forth life (baby). When god breathed into Adam's nostrils, Adam was made to receive spirituality from God and that brings forth life. LGBTQ tries to pervert the suitability of taking from one thing to make another thing and how they're suitable to one another. The thing made from another thing then receives from that and it brings forth life.

  • @sgtcamarda
    @sgtcamarda Před rokem +355

    I lived like this for most of my life. Saved in my teens and then lived my life in the LGBT community professing my faith in Jesus but picking and choosing what I wanted out of the Bible…. 2 years ago I read Revelation 22:18-21 and it was like God slapped me across the face and redeemed me from my fleshly desires! Praise God for His love, mercy and grace for all of us.

    • @CowboyFantastic007
      @CowboyFantastic007 Před rokem +7

      Amen. Praise God!!!

    • @danielbaker7196
      @danielbaker7196 Před rokem +6

      Amen 😊

    • @GarrettBradfordTX
      @GarrettBradfordTX Před rokem +13

      Wow that’s amazing. You must preach to that community now. You cannot forsake this obligation. Praying for you and that you can lead more homosexuals to repentance and save them from eternal damnation.

    • @AnthonyPearson4JesusofNazareth
    • @CynHicks
      @CynHicks Před rokem +1

      That's awesome but for clarification the book of Revelation is a single book and those verses are specifically referring to anyone that alters it, not what would become The Bible hundreds of years later
      Edit - Okay, I could see how it is still relevant to homosexual behavior. I thought you were referring to OT law.

  • @zenvultra
    @zenvultra Před 11 měsíci +25

    Brandon’s whole argument is “God’s word doesn’t say what it actually says, it means what I think it says” 😵‍💫

  • @meganclay5090
    @meganclay5090 Před 10 měsíci +11

    This is extremely hard to watch. Its not even a debate. Its just heartbreaking. I pray for brandons soul.

  • @sophiaaihpos6563
    @sophiaaihpos6563 Před rokem +366

    Jeff is absolutely right, he picks & chooses what he wants to consider true & accurate based on his own desires. It couldn't be any more obvious.

    • @lucaswilhelmmeyer6943
      @lucaswilhelmmeyer6943 Před rokem +7

      Like a disobedient child !

    • @lucaswilhelmmeyer6943
      @lucaswilhelmmeyer6943 Před rokem

      What About Paul Peter James John Jude!

    • @sophiaaihpos6563
      @sophiaaihpos6563 Před rokem +6

      @@lucaswilhelmmeyer6943 what about them?

    • @vi683a
      @vi683a Před rokem +4

      He Might as well be Muslim!

    • @zanir2387
      @zanir2387 Před rokem

      Well, you christians do the same, you cherry pick the nice verses or those of fire and brimnstone ignoring those were your God orders to commit genocides or condobes slavery

  • @hmmaes
    @hmmaes Před rokem +255

    I was a homosexual. I was tormented and wanted to die. I knew it wasn’t right but was fooled into thinking I could not be free. But I had an encounter with Jesus. I fell in love with Him and truly repented. It took work but, I saw the truth and He brought light into my life. I am married and have 3 beautiful children and we serve God. I was also freed from cocaine addiction. GOD CAN DO ANYTHING!!!!! May God have mercy on this guy. Also you all spoke with so much love and patience 💯

  • @jordanhorne7700
    @jordanhorne7700 Před 8 měsíci +27

    Scripture is so clear on this issue. It’s honestly shocking he can read these same verses and not see how clear they are.

    • @ReligiousG
      @ReligiousG Před 5 měsíci

      That's what the 'fake' Christians do.
      They see what the scriptures say, but twist or manipulate them to justify their sinful lifestyle.

    • @EmoDKTsuchiya
      @EmoDKTsuchiya Před 2 měsíci +1

      His eyes to see and ears to hear aren't open...yet(hopefully).

  • @johnathanhowell9926
    @johnathanhowell9926 Před 10 měsíci +24

    Wow! This was an enlightening discussion. Brandon is definitely leading people astray all under the Disguise of Jesus and Christianity.

    • @jojijosette5946
      @jojijosette5946 Před 8 měsíci +1

      And taking it to the bank. $$$

    • @justinmcnaughton3016
      @justinmcnaughton3016 Před 3 měsíci

      Yes! He also teaches that in the garden God deceived Adam and even to prevent them from having knowledge while the devil was the one that was honest with them and helped them. PEOPLE KNOW YOUR BIBLES THE DEVIL IS ALIVE AND WELL AND HES OUT HERE IN FULL FORCE.

  • @TB4Jesus247
    @TB4Jesus247 Před rokem +155

    Imagine spending $100k to learn how to justify your sin.

    • @geness9676
      @geness9676 Před rokem +6

      It's sad, that $$$ is taking him straight to hades!

    • @pedalfr3ak265
      @pedalfr3ak265 Před rokem +6

      Imagine spending that much just to still be wrong

    • @Nandat3675
      @Nandat3675 Před rokem +6

      ​@@geness9676 Let's pray GOD will remove his blinders. So sad , millions view the Bible just like him.

    • @GRAYgauss
      @GRAYgauss Před rokem +1

      ​@@Nandat3675 Yeah, millions confused because of him...The only way to twist the word so effectively is to understand the truth of the word - like Satan. "For it is better some of you not be teachers" He didn't heed the warning, he will be responsible for what he's doing, and it will be just...When I read that verse I was convicted and God-fear was put into my heart, I'd be terrified if I were him, but instead he's proud. I doubt this is a mistake, so much as intention.

    • @brendac9151
      @brendac9151 Před rokem +3

      He wasted a lot of money and time to glorify himself as his own god. As they say, you can’t fix stupid.

  • @DegaRican
    @DegaRican Před rokem +134

    $100K in student loans to study the bible and he's still wrong. WOW!

    • @kingtut4734
      @kingtut4734 Před rokem

      Most liberals are like that sadly. They go into massive debt to get indoctrinated with group think liberal nonsense and they don't come out knowing anything about reality. I know because I used to be one of them

    • @thatgirlyanara
      @thatgirlyanara Před rokem

      That’s because you don’t need to go to college or Bible school to know the Bible and to understand Yah’s truth… what you need is revelation! You can have thousands of diplomas on your wall and still if you have no revelation you are as dumb as you can be 🤷🏽‍♀️

    • @Mexellence
      @Mexellence Před rokem +23

      I have a feeling he knows he’s wrong. I don’t actually think he loves or accepts Jesus. There’s something evil about him.

    • @EpicTastyPapple
      @EpicTastyPapple Před rokem +14

      Not super shocking. Paul spent a lifetime studying scripture as a Pharisee and he was wrong, Christ opened his eyes.

    • @taylorperkins581
      @taylorperkins581 Před rokem +3

      @@Mexellencee’s so evil. I highly disagree with him. Brandon Robertson really I feel like he’s doing devils work.

  • @PaulandMorgan
    @PaulandMorgan Před 3 měsíci +7

    Wow, this was a great. Super refreshing and enjoyable to watch. Ya’ll went beast mode! Dismantling false arguments and doctrines🙌🙏

  • @barkeater123
    @barkeater123 Před 10 měsíci +41

    To falsify truth you have to chase your tail and set up a dizzying maze of word salad and delusion. The truth is clear, concise and to the point. Great job by pastor Jeff and Dr White.

    • @dctrbrass
      @dctrbrass Před 3 měsíci

      And it has to be that way. Not everyone is a scholar. This is remarkably poor scholarship.

    • @JesusismyGOD
      @JesusismyGOD Před 15 dny

      Beat comment on here. You put words to my thoughts and heart.

    • @JesusismyGOD
      @JesusismyGOD Před 15 dny

      *BEST

  • @mistayawilks8548
    @mistayawilks8548 Před rokem +465

    👋👋Former homosexual here, was married to a woman for 14 yrs. I PRAISE GOD for your ministry!!! Praying for this young man!!! God bless you both!! 🙏🙏🙏

    • @adrianaamado473
      @adrianaamado473 Před rokem +15

      What happens afterwards? I’ve been meaning to ask what happens once you’re saved.. especially being married to the same-sex. Not trying to be mean or rude, just honestly want to know. God bless you and anyone else who came to him, even those who never did or haven’t yet.

    • @babiiesha1
      @babiiesha1 Před rokem +34

      ​@@adrianaamado473 You deny yourself, pick up your cross, and follow Christ.

    • @thisbtchisraginghomosexual1655
      @thisbtchisraginghomosexual1655 Před rokem +1

      @@adrianaamado473 The word homosexual was never mentioned in the original Bible. In the Original Greek and Hebrew texts the word that is now translated to homosexual actually accurately translates to a pedophile or boy abuser or boy molester. That is according to the Bible homosexuality is not a sin child molesting is. The ancient word condoned and encourage a system of pedastry-sexual relationships between an adult (old) man and a young boy 8-12 years old. According to Theologian Ed Oxford Ancient Greek Documents show us how even parents utilize this abusive system to help their sons advance in society. For most of history, these verses were interpreted to be obviously referring to the pedastry, not homosexuality. In summary, the original Bible condemned pedastry, not homosexuality. The shift to attacking homosexuality in the 1980’s is not only a calculated attack on queer folks that came during a critical period for us (Think the AIDS epidemic) but is also disgustingly ironic coming from an institution with nearly 6000 (old) clergymen charged with sexual assault of young boys.They think they are covering something up? Hard to argue otherwise here’s the timeline.
      1534: Martin Luther’s original German translation includes ‘Knabenschander’, which means boy molester.
      1800’s: A German Bible reads, ‘Man shall not lie with young boys as he does with a woman for it is an abomination, (Leviticus 18-22) and reads, ‘Boy molesters will not inherit the kingdom of God’ (1 Corinthians).
      1892: The Germans created the word homosexual.
      1983: The American company Bilblica pays for an updated German Bible that uses the word homosexual instead of ‘boy molesters’. This was later put into the English Bible which read ‘Mam shall not lie with man, for it is an abomination.

    • @thisbtchisraginghomosexual1655
      @thisbtchisraginghomosexual1655 Před rokem

      @@babiiesha1 The word homosexual was never mentioned in the original Bible. In the Original Greek and Hebrew texts the word that is now translated to homosexual actually accurately translates to a pedophile or boy abuser or boy molester. That is according to the Bible homosexuality is not a sin child molesting is. The ancient word condoned and encourage a system of pedastry-sexual relationships between an adult (old) man and a young boy 8-12 years old. According to Theologian Ed Oxford Ancient Greek Documents show us how even parents utilize this abusive system to help their sons advance in society. For most of history, these verses were interpreted to be obviously referring to the pedastry, not homosexuality. In summary, the original Bible condemned pedastry, not homosexuality. The shift to attacking homosexuality in the 1980’s is not only a calculated attack on queer folks that came during a critical period for us (Think the AIDS epidemic) but is also disgustingly ironic coming from an institution with nearly 6000 (old) clergymen charged with sexual assault of young boys.They think they are covering something up? Hard to argue otherwise here’s the timeline.
      1534: Martin Luther’s original German translation includes ‘Knabenschander’, which means boy molester.
      1800’s: A German Bible reads, ‘Man shall not lie with young boys as he does with a woman for it is an abomination, (Leviticus 18-22) and reads, ‘Boy molesters will not inherit the kingdom of God’ (1 Corinthians).
      1892: The Germans created the word homosexual.
      1983: The American company Bilblica pays for an updated German Bible that uses the word homosexual instead of ‘boy molesters’. This was later put into the English Bible which read ‘Mam shall not lie with man, for it is an abomination.

    • @disciplineistruefreedom8983
      @disciplineistruefreedom8983 Před rokem +11

      @@thisbtchisraginghomosexual1655sex outside marriage is a sin period. So I don’t understand how sexual interaction between two men or two woman is not sinful?

  • @cameronpather99
    @cameronpather99 Před rokem +436

    “You rejected God’s authority, we reject yours” 😂 thank you Pastor Durbin and Dr White❤

    • @uzoachebe
      @uzoachebe Před rokem +6

      laughed out loud at that part!🤣, tooo goood !

    • @xxZEROxGRIMxx
      @xxZEROxGRIMxx Před rokem +1

      @@uzoachebe time code for when it was said?

    • @cameronpather99
      @cameronpather99 Před rokem

      @@uzoachebe😂 same!

    • @ckp2094
      @ckp2094 Před rokem

      ​@@uzoachebe hilarious! Sounds exactly like my Nigerian mum 😂

  • @eternalpeaceandjoy
    @eternalpeaceandjoy Před 10 měsíci +14

    I like Jeff Durban, and I liked him prior to today- but after this I have a whole new level of respect. “You teach about a false god, Brandon. You need to grapple with that”.
    🎤🎤🎤🎤

  • @lucyfox8298
    @lucyfox8298 Před 10 měsíci +13

    I believe this guy knows he's twisting things because he's trying to make it alright for him to live how he wants.

  • @BuzyMamma
    @BuzyMamma Před rokem +307

    Brandon’s thought process is very confusing, chaotic, and a perfect example of what happens when we do away with Absolute Truths.

    • @chinooktx
      @chinooktx Před rokem +20

      You can see him suppressing the truth in real time! Eye opening

    • @joeewert6800
      @joeewert6800 Před rokem +15

      His entire argument stems from a point of view that scripture isnt the ETERNAL Word of God, rather it is cultural, thus its meaning is dictated by the ebbs and flow of what is culturally acceptable.

    • @winnieblue9626
      @winnieblue9626 Před rokem

      He's a marxist, wearing your faith as a costume.

    • @michaelshannon6558
      @michaelshannon6558 Před rokem +19

      I think it is a misnomer to call Brandon a theologian.

    • @eoinMB3949
      @eoinMB3949 Před rokem

      It's actually a sign of the demonic, chaotic thinking and speaking, a lack of reason and a resistance to the truth. That's how you know demons are behind something or someone

  • @obedplayskeys
    @obedplayskeys Před rokem +176

    Imagine spending 100,000 dollars to internally justify your sinful lifestyle

    • @mitchell3877
      @mitchell3877 Před 5 měsíci +2

      This was my exact thought when he made that statement about his tuition.

    • @tysonvslewis12
      @tysonvslewis12 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Imagine voting away marriage rights for millions just to appease yours

    • @tysonvslewis12
      @tysonvslewis12 Před 3 měsíci

      @joshuagonsalez653 marriage existed long before religion and in particular long before yours. I’m not hijacking’s anything, me being able to get married has zero bearing on your marriage or anyone else’s. The only person trying to hijack rights is yall. How is it that the religious right in this country feels that they posses the right to tell other grown adults if they can marry another grown adult or not?

    • @grimuk3817
      @grimuk3817 Před 3 měsíci

      You do the exact same thing. You may not have spent money to do it, but every living being does exactly what you have just described, in varying levels.

    • @tysonvslewis12
      @tysonvslewis12 Před 3 měsíci

      joshuagonsalez653 it’s y’all that initiated the whole using the legal system to oppress and stifle the rights of other people. Not us. And y’all say I can be in a relationship but as soon as I want to lock that relationship up into a marriage then y’all want to step in and say that my rights end where your belief begins. You do realize how frustrating that is right?

  • @heidyalfonso6556
    @heidyalfonso6556 Před 9 měsíci +8

    These pastors are truly patient. God bless them. I would have given up on this young man who is clearly not a Christian.

  • @mothersellrobertjhon-fn3pd
    @mothersellrobertjhon-fn3pd Před 9 měsíci +12

    The bible plainly says that homosexuality is wrong. If you have these tendencies, it is your responsibility to no give in.

    • @babs_babs
      @babs_babs Před 9 měsíci

      that’s too big of an ask

  • @dwightsykes5445
    @dwightsykes5445 Před rokem +144

    My heart goes out to Brandan Robertson. I sincerely hope Holy Spirit will deliver him from this thinking before it’s too late.

    • @melissaculpepper7663
      @melissaculpepper7663 Před rokem +8

      I can’t feel sorry for anyone who willfully blasphemes God and chooses to align himself with Satan, all while cherry-picking God’s Holy Word. He has been warned, in love, to repent. Jesus died for him and gave him a choice. Even Jesus said how bad it will be for anyone who misleads someone by preaching a false gospel.

    • @Firefly-dy5zc
      @Firefly-dy5zc Před rokem +7

      @@melissaculpepper7663 All true, and unless he repents he will suffer the consequences of a just and righteous God. Even so, I feel compassion for him and will pray for him. And if he doesn't repent and change his ways, he will richly deserve whatever judgement befalls him.

    • @user-eb4gw8ym5i
      @user-eb4gw8ym5i Před rokem

      I don't pretend to know the mind of the Lord to instruct him. So i'm not even trying to say what the Lord will do about Brandon.
      But the video i just watch with Brandon trying to debate White and i forgot the other Christians name. That man Brandon is morally retarded. He is without a doubt possessed with a lascivious evil seducing sprit.
      I believe strongly that God sent Brandon to two of his ordained ministers, so that God try and save his soul.
      That doesn't mean anyway i know the mind of Lord, that i may instruct him.
      All i'm saying is that everyone of us, for we are sinners deserves a chance to repentant. That is what i mean that God sent him to the two ordained minsters of the gospel of Jesus Christ.
      So anyways, Brandon rejected every holy word of God. Not only did he reject God's holy word at least 50 times and more consistently. But he would foolishly and boldly, confidently say that is not the true meaning of what Jesus said.
      That is same as calling Jesus liar. He would also call the two ordained minster arrogant. But the two ministered only used Gods holy words.
      After Brandon rejected God's holy word. He would immediately then just make up pure foolishness that doesn't make any sense at all.
      So it would appear at this time or from when the video was made. That Brandon sold his soul to satan to promote inordinate affections, and evil concupiscence, and all manner of lasciviousness.
      Brandon has received the mark of beast. He is working full time 24-7, 365 days for the anti-christ.
      The anti-christ has already created and recruited billions of loyal warriors. Catholics, Muslims, Jehovah Witness, Hebrew Israelites, Mormons, Church of scientology, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc, any man-made religion that doesn't consent to wholesome teaching, even the teachings of Jesus Christ.
      Did you see how ignorant, and bold and confident, proud, with a disgusting fake smile through out the whole debate, Brandon displayed.

    • @jamesgjurovich7893
      @jamesgjurovich7893 Před rokem

      @@melissaculpepper7663 Sad to say but very true. Reprobate

    • @SaxonC
      @SaxonC Před rokem +1

      I don’t think his conscience can hear The Holy Spirit unfortunately

  • @nealwright5630
    @nealwright5630 Před rokem +233

    These two pastors had a lot more patience than I would have had.

    • @nealwright5630
      @nealwright5630 Před rokem

      @@jacintopereira5497 In all honesty, he doesn't need their grace. He needs to be called out as the agent of Satan he is.

    • @cindy000
      @cindy000 Před rokem +5

      Amen!

    • @PracticalBibleStudies
      @PracticalBibleStudies Před rokem +9

      They are veterans at loving debate.

    • @nathansmith6076
      @nathansmith6076 Před rokem +21

      @@jacintopereira5497We need to show grace to these people because without God we would be just like them.

    • @dongkilkim7797
      @dongkilkim7797 Před rokem +3

      You read my mind. 😂

  •  Před 6 měsíci +6

    Listening the constant deflections from Brendon is excruciating... We just can't get one single straight forward answer from this man...
    I feel thats completely possible that they would have asked "is it your name Robert?", and he could respond "well actually, i think your are defining the word 'name' wrongly".
    The level of patience from Jeff and James was simply off the charts.
    That being said, may the spirit of our Lord reach this young man and save his soul

  • @melizamenelly
    @melizamenelly Před 9 měsíci +19

    I love how calm you remained during this encounter while firmly standing on the word of God and speaking the truth.

  • @kellieboudreaux8778
    @kellieboudreaux8778 Před rokem +357

    Anyone else get knots in their stomach listening to this young man? Keep him in your prayers 🥺

  • @kodypercivill6096
    @kodypercivill6096 Před rokem +65

    Just because a sin becomes more common doesn’t make it any less a sin.

    • @dctrbrass
      @dctrbrass Před 3 měsíci +2

      For real. No opinion carries authority. Not even the majority opinion.😅

    • @RJB1013
      @RJB1013 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Also, just because it's legal under civil law, doesn't make it acceptable under God's law.

  • @ashleyvictoria95
    @ashleyvictoria95 Před 9 měsíci +6

    I love watching your videos, Jeff. I feel like I was SO beyond blessed to meet you in my journey with Christ. You opened my eyes on what was .. just the beginning of ministry journey.. in aspect of looking back, your at the foundation of the planted seed of Christ in my heart.. as that scared young girl that I was, and needing Christ. I won’t forget that you gave me the gift of the good news when I needed it the most, Thank you for all you’ve done, in my life but also the life of SO many….. and in the name of the Lord he’s given me the strength to help me become a licensed esthetician by the grace of God! I also want to thank you for always teaching and having conversations with love and kindness / compassion. God bless you and your family!

  • @Sirach144
    @Sirach144 Před 6 měsíci +7

    At 14:10 he says “ I don’t reject the word of God I reject the Bible.” WOW!!!!!!!

    • @dctrbrass
      @dctrbrass Před 3 měsíci

      Using Bible education for evil. Sounds like Satan to me. Satan knows the Bible as well as any scholar.

  • @buzzlightbeertoinfinity-ot5wx

    @6:00 (perhaps there is) subjective
    @6:03 (I don't believe) subjective
    @6:07 (I don't think) subjective
    @6:12 (I... don't think) subjective
    @7:20 (I don't believe) subjective
    @8:02 (I believe) subjective
    @9:34 (I think) subjective
    @9:42 (I don't think) subjective
    @15:19 (I think) subjective
    @18:14 (I would argue) subjecting
    @18:54 (...I think) subjectice
    @19:01 (I think) subjecting
    @19:08 ("Isaiah 53 is not about Jesus")
    @20:11 ("Writer Hebrews problematic")
    @28:57 ("how I define sin) subjective
    @38:08 (I don't think) subjective
    @38:16 ("I believe") subjective
    @58:52 (I think) subjective
    @58:56 (I don't believe) subjective
    @1:01:42 (I don't believe) subjective
    @1:01:45 (I don't believe) subjective
    @1:02:05 *Admits homosexuality does not bring life*
    *• 19 subjective statements*
    *• Contradicts scripture (Satan's tactic in Genesis)*
    *• Rejects scripture (rebellion/witchcraft)*
    *• Denies infallibility of Scripture*
    *• Calls evil good and good evil (Woe/Severe warning of destruction over such as do this)*

    • @greggory4604
      @greggory4604 Před rokem +24

      love it... great job 👍

    • @buzzlightbeertoinfinity-ot5wx
      @buzzlightbeertoinfinity-ot5wx Před rokem +19

      @@greggory4604 Thank you brother. Bless you
      And to God be the Glory

    • @sorrowinchrist3387
      @sorrowinchrist3387 Před rokem +11

      @46:55 ( I am helping myself)
      @47:51 ( couples things first of all you twisted scripture)
      @50:23 (you aren't using the plain reading of the time I'm reading the text no you are because you're not noticing)

    • @H4ymaker
      @H4ymaker Před rokem +5

      Well done

    • @zikorhamonroe3340
      @zikorhamonroe3340 Před rokem +3

      🙏🏽🙏🏽 thank you

  • @dashanovokreshchenov8836
    @dashanovokreshchenov8836 Před rokem +148

    When he said Isaiah 53 isn’t about Jesus my jaw went to the floor

    • @mottgirl13
      @mottgirl13 Před rokem +5

      What? Gosh.. just started this.. and to read this.. is 🤯!! Who does Brandon say, Isaiah 53 is about???

    • @user-mv3pc8zd7g
      @user-mv3pc8zd7g Před rokem +4

      Hahah me too!!

    • @candychelle
      @candychelle Před rokem +3

      SAME!!!!

    • @DIBBY40
      @DIBBY40 Před rokem +1

      Ask a Jewish Rabbi and they will tell you that, in the context of the rest of Isaiah, chapter 53 is about Israel.

    • @dashanovokreshchenov8836
      @dashanovokreshchenov8836 Před rokem +13

      @@DIBBY40 I have read the entire book of Isaiah I don’t need a rabbai to tell me a wrong interpretation

  • @wolf14u2
    @wolf14u2 Před 3 měsíci +2

    You guys are SO patient! God Bless you.

  • @greeneyes5894
    @greeneyes5894 Před 8 měsíci +4

    Love the introduction. It's so awesome!

  • @lexel992
    @lexel992 Před rokem +406

    - "Lovinig homosexual relationships don't bring death"
    - "Well they don't bring life." 😂

    • @georgapaul1452
      @georgapaul1452 Před rokem +3

      😂

    • @mackywackydeejew
      @mackywackydeejew Před rokem +9

      What a cut 😂😅

    • @zanir2387
      @zanir2387 Před rokem

      It depends: a couple of lesbians still can have in-vitro...

    • @midwestsecurityinc8477
      @midwestsecurityinc8477 Před rokem +3

      Imagine how many lives these people could save if the focused on the main thing Jesus talked about……. POVERTY!
      But these “godly men” don’t give a spit about human life.
      I’m glad they are losing the war for the future.
      🎉

    • @TheSlowoldman
      @TheSlowoldman Před rokem +14

      @@zanir2387 they don't bring life either without help.....from God's intended partner for a female, a man.

  • @trevorbridges5558
    @trevorbridges5558 Před rokem +77

    Jeff eluted to Brandon’s primary root issue. He lived a life feeling guilty over his lust, and then spent “$100,000 and 10 years” towards developing a position that justified his sin.

    • @tinsakamp
      @tinsakamp Před rokem +7

      Yes!! And guilt comes from the devil! He should've been feeling conviction not guilt!

    • @noobskatesonora9467
      @noobskatesonora9467 Před rokem

      I pray that he can some day say that the money and time he spent to justify his sin is ultimately what lead him to the actual truth. That one day it won't be a part of his beliefs anymore but a part of his revelation.

    • @TGuard00014
      @TGuard00014 Před rokem

      Actually it was $180,000.

    • @tinsakamp
      @tinsakamp Před rokem

      @JeritheOkapi what was? Brandon said 10yrs and 100k$

    • @TGuard00014
      @TGuard00014 Před rokem +1

      @@tinsakamp You are correct the first time I listened to the podcast of Apple and it sounded like he said $180k but on the YT version it was clearly $100k.

  • @Red-fr3ix
    @Red-fr3ix Před 6 měsíci +6

    I'm less than 12min in and Brandon's argument is "there's stuff humans agree on" and "most people think murder is wrong". Democracy is not a basis for establishing morality or truth. He just wants to give into his flesh and not feel bad about it. He's committing the worst sin possible: using the Lord's name in vain to lead people astray. I hope he learns that he's wrong and uses his influence to fix his errors.

  • @loganfrazier7286
    @loganfrazier7286 Před 10 měsíci +6

    I always enjoy listening to yall! It's sad to see a young man with sooo much potential go to waist.. keep fighting the good fight brothers!

    • @dctrbrass
      @dctrbrass Před 3 měsíci

      Smart guy but his approach is satanic and antichrist. Heartbreaking

  • @jmanzew4146
    @jmanzew4146 Před rokem +112

    The only inconsistency in Jeff's argument is that he says murder is wrong and then proceeds to murder this guy's argument.

  • @DaddyAzam
    @DaddyAzam Před rokem +111

    Whenever someone repeatedly states “I think” followed by their opinion, you know it’s based on subjective evidence. This dude is so lost, and we didn’t even hear his take on abortion. Great work Dr. White and Pastor Jeff.

  • @tdillpickleh4684
    @tdillpickleh4684 Před 10 měsíci +4

    It’s incredible that they asked him about his time thinking he was gay and that it could cloud his mind and start his apostate transformation but he doesn’t see any connection between the two

  • @jstinstinny8909
    @jstinstinny8909 Před měsícem +1

    Dude is the walking talking definition of pride. Praying for this man.

  • @SojournerSwordsman
    @SojournerSwordsman Před rokem +384

    Imagine going $100,000 into student debt to get to where Brandon is.

    • @mobiledonutshop8336
      @mobiledonutshop8336 Před rokem +1

      Well with moody you wouldnt. The only thing you pay for at Moody is room and board its actually one of the most affordable Christian schools.

    • @annzifchak1268
      @annzifchak1268 Před rokem +5

      @@mobiledonutshop8336 what do you mean all you pay for is room and board? There's no tuition?

    • @antoniobiondo1509
      @antoniobiondo1509 Před rokem

      Why/how did a school like Moody accept someone whose lifestyle is contrary to the schools teaching??

    • @22geeski92
      @22geeski92 Před rokem +1

      😂😂😂😂😂 I’m dead

    • @Bamifun
      @Bamifun Před rokem

      😂

  • @brianevans4
    @brianevans4 Před rokem +188

    The most astonishing part is that a congregation willingly sits under this man's teaching. May the Lord open their eyes

    • @muddinmann
      @muddinmann Před rokem +35

      Because he tells them what they want to hear. 🤷

    • @fd2lministries923
      @fd2lministries923 Před rokem

      @@muddinmann
      Exactly!

    • @gregory4154
      @gregory4154 Před rokem +3

      It's astonishing how perverse this has become.

    • @melissaculpepper7663
      @melissaculpepper7663 Před rokem

      They seek after false teachers who will tell them what they want to hear. Brandon belongs to satan(sadly) and he, like Satan, wants to be worshiped. His “congregation” feeds his arrogance by giving him an audience. Jesus, Brandon willfully has rejected You. Only Your Holy Spirit can convict him. He refuses rebuking, teaching and correcting by true followers of Jesus.

    • @TheIndecisiveWigWearer
      @TheIndecisiveWigWearer Před rokem +5

      He tickles their ears!

  • @gilesfairman-bourn6632
    @gilesfairman-bourn6632 Před 10 měsíci +2

    It’s so helpful to hear a dialogue rather than an ‘echo chamber’ monologue between two camps that are diametrically opposed. Thank you for both showing great respect and grace and self-control whilst clearly challenging Brandon to repent of his false teaching. I pray in Jesus’ name that Brandon will indeed respond to Christ (the real Jesus) and renounce every word of deceit that he has written or said. And may God bless your ministry, too.

  • @treyokelly9662
    @treyokelly9662 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I ran away from God for a decade. CS Lewis's case for objective morality in Mere Christianity turned me around on my whole outlook. I came back to God with such much more assurance than i ever had before. Its been a beautiful journey all over again.

  • @jacquelynordner2457
    @jacquelynordner2457 Před rokem +89

    Praying for you, Brandon. I too once loved my sin more than Jesus, so I feel great compassion for you. Turn away from your sin before it is too late !

    • @bobbyrice2858
      @bobbyrice2858 Před rokem

      Sister that won’t do anything. One of the things they’ve noticed in the interview and his previous video post is that he’s already blaspheming the Holy Spirit. He has even gone so far as to claim that Jesus repented of sin. If you remember the Pharisees criticizing Jesus saying that he cast out demons with the power of the devil, Brandon has done similar with his rhetoric. His sin is unforgivable hence the reason he is classified as apostate. He won’t be able to come back from this. His decision is no different than choosing the Mark of the beast.
      As sad as it is, his fate is sealed.

  • @n8g496
    @n8g496 Před rokem +65

    I asked my Greek Orthodox Priest the (gay question) and he said "We believe it to be a sin & illness that a child of God suffers from, but we extend our loving hand to help them overcome this illness with God's grace by our side."

    • @carolwilliams383
      @carolwilliams383 Před rokem

      It’s not an illness it’s. SIN!

    • @trackshun
      @trackshun Před rokem +5

      @Krazy Kajeevie when you are born again, your flesh isn’t, your spirit is by the blood of Jesus Christ, which covers your soul. Your body will not be the same body you have for eternity, but your soul is. Therefore, as long as the blood of Jesus Christ covers your soul, your body can still sin. And you have to agree that if you can lose your salvation, no one is saved because we all still sin. No one has proved a line that is drawn between “habitual” sin vs. “struggling” sin.

    • @jahdeic7883
      @jahdeic7883 Před rokem +10

      @Krazy Kajeevie Transformed Christians sin _less,_ but we are *not* _sinless._ Now, Brandan Robertson is not a child of God, he's not a Christian, he's a heretic.

    • @bradleyperry1735
      @bradleyperry1735 Před rokem +1

      @krazykajeevieDon’t the Scriptures specifically speak of names being blotted out of the book of life…? And every single person will be judged according to their deeds. Those who claim to be Christians, and those who don’t. And not everyone who says “Lord, Lord,” will enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

    • @jahdeic7883
      @jahdeic7883 Před rokem

      @Krazy Kajeevie ???? I know you never said Christians are not sinless (i.e., you are saying Christians do not sin, per your original comment that I replied to). You said it a month ago: "Sinners aren't 'children of God.' They're his creation, not children. Big difference." I disagreed with you by saying Christians ARE children of God and we still sin. To phrase it as you did would imply that children of God don't sin, only sinners do. If you meant to say that heretics or unbelievers are not children of God (which I would agree with), it's only my personal suggestion, but I suggest you use clearer language. God bless.

  • @tombo3689
    @tombo3689 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Never trust a guy who smiles like an idiot the whole time

  • @HesAbnormal
    @HesAbnormal Před měsícem +1

    As someone who struggles with same sex attraction and was fully proud of being in the LGBTQ community IT IS EXTREMELY RARE to find monogamy in that community, it was very lonely and sexually driven.

  • @jackriddle4017
    @jackriddle4017 Před rokem +193

    Thank you for having Brandon on. It shows, truly, what we are up against.

    • @jamchall2756
      @jamchall2756 Před rokem +4

      👍 agreed 🙏

    • @Soladeogloria
      @Soladeogloria Před rokem +4

      This comment! I came away from this with so much sadness about the move away from God’s word but an insistence to hold on to that Jesus in their own image. Maranatha!

    • @jackriddle4017
      @jackriddle4017 Před rokem +1

      @@Soladeogloria they will open their eyes if they are willing.

    • @RandyEscalanteGarcia
      @RandyEscalanteGarcia Před rokem +4

      You couldn't have said it better, I think the scariest and worst part of our job as christains is when we do share the Gospel, THIS specific theology alone that Brandan uses is so messed up, people would use to rebuttal or reject it, it's literally the scariest because it screams "NO" to the Gospel and opportunity to repent and believe.
      This is so out there, and so distorted, that he reduces objective truth down to an impossibility, mixed with new age and sinful lifestyle, that people like him reject the Gospel flat out, and distort it with "sly words" to the point of a disgusting crutch of philosophy, as if he and those who carry this figured it out without figuring it out. The claim that subjective truth leads to objective truth "one day" is simply called ignorance carried through deception. Nevertheless. I will still pray for Brandan that he gets knocked off his horse and scales are lifted off his eyes before it's too late.... Idk. This is false teaching at its peak.

    • @tysonvslewis12
      @tysonvslewis12 Před rokem

      What? Gay people! Oh no!!!!! Equality!! Can't have that!

  • @gabepoirot
    @gabepoirot Před rokem +1370

    you handled this like a champ. Thank you for speaking truth to a broken Brandan

    • @dansaber4427
      @dansaber4427 Před rokem +3

      Wow come out!

    • @paulallenscards
      @paulallenscards Před rokem

      Except for the part of the discussion from about 9:00 to 26:00 where Jeff and James try to present the fundamentalist approach to scripture as comporting with the methodologies applied to exegeting scripture by modern biblical scholarship.

    • @SickestDisciple
      @SickestDisciple Před rokem +86

      @@paulallenscards lol wait…
      What part of the methodology of exegesis was “modern?” Reading the Koine Greek original language is a new thing apparently…who knew?!

    • @Declared-righteous
      @Declared-righteous Před rokem +40

      @@paulallenscards So you’re saying that modern interpretation is incorrect because it’s modern? What if you were shown ancient Christian exegesis that condemned homosexuality just like “fundamentalist” interpretation does? Would that cause you to change your mind?

    • @ybh8ful
      @ybh8ful Před rokem +34

      @@Declared-righteous 👏🏻👏🏻 best response. No, they'd still want to justify living in sin

  • @felipev.7031
    @felipev.7031 Před 10 měsíci +2

    May God Bless Dr. James and Pastor Jeff for their patience with Brandan. And may God bless Brandan and reveal to him the truth for him to repent of his apostasy. It truly terrifies me the wrath of God coming upon false teachers and false prophets.

  • @1967John_P
    @1967John_P Před 8 měsíci +7

    This Brandon knows he’s wrong, but he doesn’t have the courage to admit to it. His (gay?) pride is in the way (Figuratively and literally)

  • @bobopatchnosuke229
    @bobopatchnosuke229 Před rokem +63

    I'm against everything Brandon is spreading.
    Thank you guys for spreading the true word of God.

  • @veritasomniavincit7
    @veritasomniavincit7 Před rokem +141

    I see; pride, intolerance, and immaturity. I am not a scholar in Theology but I can usually tell when someone is being dishonest. I will pray for this young man to humble himself and for his eyes to open to the Truth. To me it is clear that Pastor Jeff and Pastor James are showing their love and respect, and seeing this interaction fills my heart. Thank you for sharing this. Praise the Lord.

    • @destinfarr
      @destinfarr Před rokem +3

      Amen!

    • @BalikTrollbane
      @BalikTrollbane Před rokem +7

      That young man really incapsulates the cultural war and the hate towards truth that the west is facing today. We need to pray not only for this young man, but for all our leaders in power that they may make Godly decisions.

    • @thebonniemonroeshow3708
      @thebonniemonroeshow3708 Před rokem +2

      What’s crazy is I see that too… but on both sides. I pray for all of them grow into a deeper knowledge of the spirit of God. None of them had any business arguing over the things of God. Rivalrous. Speaking over each other. Puffed Up & Proud. Insisting on their own way… We are supposed to LISTEN to each other so that we can CONSIDER & KNOW THAT HE IS GOD. Anyone who believes that Jesus came in the flesh is FROM God. You’re supposed to listen to each other so you can HEAR GOD. They both missed out on something that could’ve been MIRACULOUS because the glory that God shows we we as believers come together in Love to testify to what God has shown us & why. GOD gets the glory when what bigger than just OUR MIND, OUR understanding, what WE hear. We have to do better. This was a loss on behalf of the whole Body. Tragedy.

    • @Havoc2317
      @Havoc2317 Před rokem +5

      Apart from the “son, I was studying this stuff when you were in diapers, don’t give me your 10 years.” Although I agree with James and Jeff, comments like that do nothing to aid the conversation. You can win an argument but still lose the person, and speaking like that is a sure way to do it.

    • @thebonniemonroeshow3708
      @thebonniemonroeshow3708 Před rokem +2

      @@Havoc2317 💯. Well said.

  • @Groomerchick00
    @Groomerchick00 Před 22 dny

    Thank you for your ministry guys. You’re helping the young ones coming into the faith ❤

  • @Laqouri.
    @Laqouri. Před 2 měsíci +1

    When you deny certain scriptures you already lost . Salute you brothers for teaching the law 🫡🫡🫡🫡

  • @mikemcknight4628
    @mikemcknight4628 Před rokem +251

    You guys speak well. I have a daughter who buys into Brandon’s doctrine. My hardline approach did not help, only drove her further into her false world. I prayed much and God has shown me a loving way to speak the exact message. She is moving back toward truth because she trusts my motives now.

  • @todder1003
    @todder1003 Před rokem +31

    I used to live a homosexual lifestyle but have repented for my acts. I also construed the scriptures to fit my lifestyle. Thank the Lord 👑 that he showed me the truth! 🙌🏻 It was through a personal experience with the Lord that this happened. Brandon, you're deceived and are deceiving others.

    • @matt76716
      @matt76716 Před rokem +3

      Thanks for sharing your testimony. The people he is deceiving need to hear that. Let's pray for him. He is doing great harm, but God can turn things around.

    • @pernellapollard1202
      @pernellapollard1202 Před rokem

      The word of God in Matthew 24 mentioned about false teaching, prophecies.

    • @todder1003
      @todder1003 Před rokem +1

      “Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.”
      ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭6:9-11‬ ‭NASB1995‬

  • @annahatori2779
    @annahatori2779 Před 10 měsíci +12

    The devil mixes lies with the truth, this man is a perfect example of that tactic. God bless these men for trying to pull him out of the darkness 😢

  • @nobody_listens_to_me
    @nobody_listens_to_me Před 7 měsíci +2

    This is when it comes down to real believers truly seeking God's word as opposed to those who make their pastors their god, even with sound doctrine, many Christians worship and hold fast to every word their pastor says as opposed to reading the Bible for themselves.

  • @nxesr
    @nxesr Před rokem +383

    This is exactly 100% why we need more shows just like this to challenge the world views and how YAHAVA is indeed the bedrock ❤️🔥

    • @seanA416
      @seanA416 Před rokem +12

      100% we're called by God to spread the TRUTH and show the world false teachers.

    • @orangemanbad
      @orangemanbad Před rokem +1

      I agree. It’s become too normal to accept evil

  • @t1kt0k_gaming
    @t1kt0k_gaming Před rokem +124

    Made me laugh out loud when Brandon said I accept many parts. My man you do not get to pick and choose. That is not the manner by which the Bible is applied to a Christian faith.

    • @josuevaladez1176
      @josuevaladez1176 Před rokem

      Everyone chooses what they get to follow in the Bible because they believe they are led by the Holy Spirit. Reformed Christians are no different than liberal Christians in that manner.

    • @jokinghazard4022
      @jokinghazard4022 Před rokem +1

      ​@@josuevaladez1176yea that's not how it works my dude.

    • @josuevaladez1176
      @josuevaladez1176 Před rokem

      @@jokinghazard4022 how so? Tell me how you handle your slaves? Do you greet everyone with a holy kiss? Do you let women not wear jewelry? Or do you look at a historical context and come to your own conclusion? It’s no different than any other Christian in past generations claiming to be enlightened by the Holy Spirit. The great thing today thanks to progress is that the Church doesn’t get to pull a John Calvin and murder someone for “apostasy.”

    • @magicdinho107
      @magicdinho107 Před rokem

      @@josuevaladez1176 I agree that different “denominations” hold different interpretations of certain passages…. But how do you defend homosexuality which is clearly wrong in the bible- that’s the problem with this false “pastor.”

    • @josuevaladez1176
      @josuevaladez1176 Před rokem

      You’re reading ancient texts and ancient people and trying to modernize their beliefs by your own consciousness and feelings. I don’t “defend” homosexuality because I don’t hold to ancient commandments of the Old Testament for my standards of living nor do I think the writers were discussing monogamous gay relationships. Calling someone who loves gay people a false pastor is the same equivalent of calling someone a false pastor for loving interracial couples. It’s not “clearly” wrong but conservatives make it to be even though they ignore science and literature because of their fundamentalist view of the book.

  • @nickchalmers9000
    @nickchalmers9000 Před 10 měsíci +3

    He who is guilty of eisegesis accuses everyone else of his own error while denying he commits it.
    Easiest way to avoid this error is to take on the mindset of if I find myself in disagreement with scrupture, then I am the one who is wrong.

  • @reginapadilla425
    @reginapadilla425 Před 2 dny

    I am a Christian
    I'm trying to give up smoking
    I am a sinner but I know Jesus loves me & will give me the power to quit & then I will smoke no more
    So I have no room to think negatively about the homosexual.
    Some sin is worse than others
    I pray that they all open their eyes & follow Jesus!
    Everyone is so self centered now and have followers on social media
    We all need to worship Jesus and not ourselves

  • @flowerboy821
    @flowerboy821 Před rokem +59

    The second he said he doesn't think the Bible is the inherent word of God, that told me everything I needed to know

    • @hgbitner1403
      @hgbitner1403 Před rokem +1

      “Inherent” haha. I’m sure it was just a typo but it was very funny haha.

    • @74skream
      @74skream Před rokem

      From the start... That explains everything!

    • @marcrhem6209
      @marcrhem6209 Před rokem

      Indeed. From the start. Sola Scriptura. He has his feet planted firmly in mid-air

    • @marcrhem6209
      @marcrhem6209 Před rokem +3

      Hegelian dielectical thinking from Brandon comes out time and time again. Even to go so far as to say the writer of Hebrews is anti-Semitic. Lots of circuitous relativism. Solidly based on his feelings

    • @Deadite_Scholar
      @Deadite_Scholar Před rokem

      I don't agree with Brandon's theology obviously. But the Bible never claims to be the inerrant word of God.

  • @deion312
    @deion312 Před rokem +422

    Brandon is so ridiculously prideful. Pride comes before the fall.

    • @DrLuke49
      @DrLuke49 Před rokem +20

      He is just like all of the other lost sheep who try in vain to justify their sin and sacrilegious lifestyle. How shameful.

    • @bxdnlftd6231
      @bxdnlftd6231 Před rokem +12

      Hi Deion, this is often a misquote that changes textual and contextual impact. Checkout proverbs 16:18, as pride leads to “destruction.” Much worse. Not trying to be another internet cop, really appreciate you commenting in truth, as you are correct on pride driving the wedge between truth and darkness here. But it leads to destruction, haughtiness comes before a fall. Unfortunately I’ve lived the latter more than I’d like as a Christian and thankful for the blood of Jesus as well as the conviction of the Holy Spirit.

    • @bingley_music
      @bingley_music Před rokem +3

      Pride comes before destruction. A common misquoting of scripture.

    • @deion312
      @deion312 Před rokem +2

      @@bxdnlftd6231 You are right, pride goes before destruction is correct

    • @buzzlightbeertoinfinity-ot5wx
      @buzzlightbeertoinfinity-ot5wx Před rokem +2

      We all need Jesus. Pray before you accuse

  • @insomnolant6043
    @insomnolant6043 Před měsícem +1

    His point is completely countered by the fact that the verse says "as you lay with a woman." Men lay with women in loving consensual relationships.

  • @jdavidteem
    @jdavidteem Před 6 měsíci

    So much respect for the guy for be willing to engage in this discussion. He is also clearly very smart.
    I hope he gets this straightened out.

  • @morethanpixls
    @morethanpixls Před rokem +27

    Doesn’t the fact that it says “you shall not lie with a male AS WITH A WOMAN…” destroy his argument about a “loving, family type relationship”? This is not merely addressing non-consensual activity.

  • @Mark.Merritt-Asher
    @Mark.Merritt-Asher Před rokem +150

    I've struggled my whole life. And I wanted so much that what I was struggling with was not wrong. I grew up close to the Lord and always a church goer. But no matter how hard I tried to balance both worlds, it just did not jive. I wanted to know the Truth. I spent years going to alters, fasting, and praying asking God to show me it was ok and if not, take it away. I was with the mindset that how can something that seems so right be so wrong. The Father ultimately showed me that there is a way that seems right to a man, but the end thereof leads to destruction. It just that simple. This flesh is sinful and cannot be subjected to God, but we ARE given the power to overcome. That's what this whole thing is about, whether you struggle with homosexuality or any other sexual dysphoria, this flesh cannot submit to God. But it is the power of God through His Son, that we overcome. We overcome by the blood of the Lamb and by the Word of our testimony.

    • @vanessaguzman7573
      @vanessaguzman7573 Před rokem +7

      God bless you ! You are a humble response to the Lords truth, and it lead you to life 🙏🏽 Praise God

    • @chrissy1310
      @chrissy1310 Před rokem +5

      Hi Mark, that made me think of how we can not have a foot in both worlds.

    • @msblanqui1
      @msblanqui1 Před rokem

      Thank you for sharing. This is a powerful and enlightening comment for me

    • @pamelaforrest1622
      @pamelaforrest1622 Před rokem

      We turn from out sin and follow the path God has prepared. If we refuse he kills us. It is pretty easy to do when you understand the consequence of rejecting the promise.

    • @K1NG_D0ME
      @K1NG_D0ME Před rokem +2

      ​@@chrissy1310as it says, we can't sit at the table of God and the table of demons.

  • @irishmagapa
    @irishmagapa Před 2 měsíci +1

    To sin is a human affair, to justify sin is a demonic affair.

  • @shawnglass108
    @shawnglass108 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I use all of the great formal (word for word) translations. Including everything from Tyndale’s NT, Geneva, Matthew’s Bible, 1611 KJV, KJV, NKJV, CSB,ESV,NASB 77 and 95, and now the LSB. I will never hinder my learning by using only one translation. It has almost never failed that I learned something deeper about a particular scripture by consulting multiple translations and researching why they chose to translate it the way they did. Also, buy a full-notes NET Bible just for the notes. You’ll be glad you did. God Bless!

  • @jburr2107
    @jburr2107 Před rokem +34

    “Sexual immorality is idolatrous”. This was a mic drop moment from Jeff. I could spend $100,000 and a decade of studying to try to justify my lusts. Still doesn’t make it truth

  • @yumyum87
    @yumyum87 Před rokem +135

    Now if we can just get, Jeff and James on Joe Rogan's podcast. I would take the day off to listen to that

    • @t-ravisaurusrex6139
      @t-ravisaurusrex6139 Před rokem +6

      So true. I would love them on TimCast to finally counter Ian's secular worldview as well.

    • @rollmops3113
      @rollmops3113 Před rokem +1

      @yumyum now that would be fantastic!

    • @sweatt4237
      @sweatt4237 Před rokem +8

      Funny enough, God keeps sending people to tell Joe about Jesus. Keep praying for that.

    • @rollmops3113
      @rollmops3113 Před rokem +1

      @@sweatt4237 good point!

    • @melchisedecsomba8237
      @melchisedecsomba8237 Před rokem +1

      It would be a feast ❤️

  • @mcoguaka9081
    @mcoguaka9081 Před 10 měsíci +2

    When he said that it could not be referring to loving conceptual relationship as we have it today, he forgot that there is nothing new under the sun - Ecclesiastes.