Powerful: Pastor Engages Returned Mormon Missionaries
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- While the team was in Provo, UT over the weekend they were able to converse with multiple LDS members. In this footage Jeff engages with devout mormons returning from their mission. This is a must watch! The conversation will be very helpful in equipping you to deal with modern day LDS.
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Thank you guys.peace and grace.next time you come to Vegas theres the mormon temple here in the east side. Can you help us euangelize to them here?
God bless you Pastor Jeff, I was a devout Mormon, God delivered me and saved me. Keep spreading the truth.
Gods word will never come back void. Joseph Smiths word cannot stop God's word from doing its work in these two young men's hearts. God bless you Pastor Jeff D.
Great job once again JEFF ...You John MacArthur JAMES WHITE Voddie Bachum Steve Lawson Paul washer Alistair Begg Dr Jeremiah are my favourite PASTORS. But I have to say Johnny MAC is my number one. But I love you brother..
00:38:14-00:38:16 the speaker has it totally wrong on this point he makes here.
Rather, Jesus repeatedly tells us that we will be judged Exclusively based on our Works - Matthew 7:21-24 & 25:31-46. While we only even have the opportunity to be Saved through Grace because of Jesus and what He suffered for us, His Teaching is so extremely clear that we will go to Heaven or to Hell based Exclusively on our Works - what we Do or Don't Do - and He lists those out Works specifically as: Obey My Commandments (so many places, can't site all here); Believe and be Baptized Mark 16:16; receive Jesus through the Eucharist aka Holy Communion Eat My Body & Drink My Blood, My Flesh is True Food John 6, literally the entire Chapter - first half teaches how is possible and second half explains it's really His Body & Blood we must consume and verses 53-54 He tells us that if we don't, then we don't have eternal life; Feed the Hungry, Give Drink to the Thirsty, Welcome the Immigrant, Clothe the Naked, Visit the Sick, Visit those in Prison. Jesus clearly says only those who did those Works will go to Heaven and those who didn't will go to Hell for all eternity. Even if we truly believed in Him, preached in His Name, and even if we do miracles in His Name, unless we actually do the Works, we will Not be saved. Belief that Jesus is God, the Trinity: Three Persons (Father, Son Jesus, Holy Spirit) One God and that He can Save us, just isn't enough, even the demons believe God is One and they tremble James 2:19. We must do the Works or we'll go to Hell. Matthew 25:31-46.
Rather than remaining a part of a Christian denomination created within the last Century or so, I invite everyone to join the fulness of Truth, the Catholic Church, founded in 33ad - the only Christian Church founded by Jesus Christ Himself on St. Peter Matthew 16:18. This Church is pillar and foundation of Truth 1 Timothy 3:15. The gates of Hell will Never prevail over the Catholic Church Matthew 16:18. Don't settle for an imitation which has some Truths, instead join the authentic original which contains 100% the Truth. To be sure, it's filled with sinners, yet Jesus came to call the sinners, not the righteous Luke 5:32. And Jesus explained He's allowing the wheat to grow with the weeds and He will separate them out on Judgement Day Matthew 13:24-30. Yet, it's to His Church, the Catholic Church, which He gave the Keys of the Kingdom to St. Peter Matthew 16:19 and these Keys have been handed down from St. Peter to St. Anacletus to St. Linus and to each successive Pope down to today's Pope, Pope Francis, and this Catholic Church is the pillar & foundation of Truth 1 Timothy 3:15. It once was a tiny Mustard Seed, but now it's the largest of all the Churches just as predicted by Jesus Matthew 13:31-32.
Come to Jesus fully, join His Church.
I went from Catholicism to atheism, to witchcraft, to Christian. Thank you brother for your help and part. But mostly importantly thank you Jesus Christ
Wow, what a journey brother. God Bless you.
@@TommyC503 when I was catholic I realized I never produced good fruit or any. It was until I received the revelation of the gospel of Jesus Christ.
Same here, exactly. It's a shame that Roman Catholicism robs people of a fruitful and true relationship with Christ. With Catholicisms pagan practices, I think it's natural that we fell into studying the occult. God used my studies to ultimately blow my mind and glorify his name. When he began giving me discernment (after i pleaded), softening my heart, and revealing Christ to me the clarity I had is incomparable. I couldn't stop crying. Still do when the Holy Spirit moves me.
@@TeaNToastI did the same to I was asking God to show me the truth with an empty heart and dying spiritually and emotionally. He came through with the Gospel of Jesus Christ. The truth has set me free!
@moisesmartinez8365 God is incredible my friend. Nothing compares.
After having witnessed to many mormons I just want to say that I congratulate these men for being open to discussion without hostility.
If the Great Commission is true, our plans are not too big; they are too small. czcams.com/video/tLPSsepMUXI/video.html
Amen
@@HeyHalenX too means in addition, to means "pointing towards or in regard to this thing" so to is correct usage here.
@@HighFunctioningMedium it is also used so signify a quantity, so too many is correct. “Many” implies there is a quantity
@@HighFunctioningMedium so you’re wrong
I am a Mormon less active this really open my eyes love it Jesus is King❤
You order to find truth you have to seek it and not just follow the status quo. I found jeff because i wanted to seek the truth which led me to him. Everything jeff talks about is straight from the bible itself. No personal agenda base driven nonsense, just straight truth.
I am headed towards Mormonism. I would submit that "less active" is the reason your eyes are opened by Jeff but haven't been by mormonsism. Perhaps if you put your money where your mouth is and listen to the 'jeffs' of the Mormon church your eyes will be opened to the truths of all eternity.
@@sandboxcreations9104 what are you on about bro I listen to all but reflect back to the bible. money where my mouth is ??? Bruh
@@sandboxcreations9104 brother there is no need to get defensive over an argument that has not happened. God Bless 💯🙏 Jesus is King and Lord of all ! 💯
@@SteelRhinoXpress the bible itself is simply not translated completely correctly. It's still super important because it teaches us so much about Jesus Christ and it testifies about him. The Holy Bible is still a book of scripture that we Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day saints, embrace however and read the Book of Mormon as it's companion. Like a mission ary companion to help testify of Jesus Christ.
This is a prime example of what a discussion in good faith looks like. Very refreshing and enjoyable to watch.
You forgot to mention they are all nuts
@@rolandhawken6628 They are "nuts" about Jesus (named their church after him) as that was one of the Saviors "requirements" for his church.
@@nute742 Personally I think all religious people are nuts , simply because few and I would guess only 2% have read the gospels most memorise passages. Having said that in balance according to the gospels Jesus is the epi centre of Christianity, no church according to Jesus is needed, no religion is needed, just live in the way of Christ . Being a bastard I can't do that ,but I understand those that try . Catholicism, Islam or any forms you care to name take you according to Jesus away from the divine "" No one goes to the father except through me "
@@rolandhawken6628 You are right (Jesus is the way). "However not all organized religion" is all bad all of the time(especially if its the one the Christ organized) Sure its full of some imperfections (mainly people, lol) But I guess he stuck us together for a reason too! (Having a "personal" relationship with Jesus Christ though is the most important).
@@nute742 I agree ,but and it is a big but all organized religions are bad all of the time most just create wealth ,the other half veer =off to some kind of hierarchy there in lies the problem it turns quickly into some kind of vehicle loses the teachings of Christ instantly it does that, to most religion is a crutch they have no understanding of the teachings of Jesus . He tells them time and time again what is required , and where the kingdom lies . If you need a church or a club you are going in the wrong direction
I feel like these 2 guys were genuinely speaking and listening. May the Lord open up their eyes to His true identity as the only God and Savior.
Amen
Amen 🙏
They had questions in their heart and Jeff was placed in their path.
We members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints already know that
God was God
Is God
Will be God
Forever.
We already know that Jesus Christ was conceived by and born to a virgin.
We already know that no man comes to God except through Jesus Christ.
We already know that Jesus Christ died on the cross for remission of our sins.
We already know that on the third day Jesus Christ defeated death and arose from the tomb.
We already know that we were told to work out our own salvation with fear and trembling.
We already know that we were told to make light of no man's religion.
We already know that there is the gift of the Holy Ghost and even speaking in tongues.
We already know that Jesus Christ told us to receive baptism by full immersion.
We already know that, even though we will witness, we will not tell any person they're going to hell because they don't follow the teachings of Mormon.
As Christians, except for Joseph Smith, we all share the same prophets and like all other Christians we don't worship them.
We don't worship Joseph Smith we simply believe he was a prophet.
Joseph Smith was the founder of our church.
Like it or not fact is regardless the religion it began with a founder.
It seems the only difference between the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and other Christian religions is we don't go around saying my daddy's bigger than yours.
If I seem a bit more aggressive than the average member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints it could be because I'm a convert.
The slight bit of aggression you may be picking up on is simply the residue leftover from all the other more confrontational religions I was adversely influenced by before I became a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
Be patient.
God's not through with me yet.
I dont follow any denomination that was established by men! They can & are corrupted. I follow Christ's church he established when he walked the earth 🌎 and shared Himself/God thru His/God's word (Yahweh Yahsuah) that's the true real church. Christ said He is the foundation & cornerstone of the church, so we should follow the church/teachings of Christ when he taught it on earth not a church established by men yrs later , those denominations are based on those men's interpretations/ and or their own ego or believing they was a prophet
instead of the word/christ teachings! That christ shared while on this earth!
As believers, we dream about people asking these kinds of honest questions. Well done on both sides for having a healthy discussion about the Word.
Oh yes so true. I get so full of joy when someone asks me about the Bible
@@claudiaacosta1304 according to the Bible when was the church started and where is the church today and who does God say his church is or his bride which he divorced
@James
Kim k perhaps?
@@daixer3156 what are you trying to say
@@james8996 stop divorcing foo'
I'm a Christ follower. Watching this in preparation for dinner/conversation with some friendly Mormons who came to our door.
If anyone scrolling through these comments is also a Christian, my wife and I would love for you to lift us/them up in your prayers that they would get to encounter the way, the truth and the life as a result of this meeting 🤙🏼
I’m a maintenance man at an apartment complex and the Mormons have started to come to knock on the doors of the elderly around here. And I’m doing the same brother!! Let’s pray for one another! The Word of God never ever ever returns void!
@@wesleywardlaw2725 I absolutely will be sir! Thank you!
How did it go?
Mormons ARE Christians 🧐 @@wesleywardlaw2725
Ya Mormons probably hope the same for you
To be so close and miss it. I hope they surrender and believe in Christ by faith in him alone. 🙏🏾🔥🙏🏾
I love it that this Christian man can have a civil discussion with kids who respectively debate with him. I’m rarely encouraged by listening to young adults but these kids have my respect. I disagree with their religion but I can still appreciate their sincerity.
I absolutely agree with you. Beautiful point.
Let me say something about this when God say He is the only true God and he is the begining and the end He is reffering to this world because Jesus Christ created this world under the direction of Elohim the focus is in this World the scripture in John 1:1-3 it was reffering to this world and Juridiction. Therefore that was the focus to keep us to him. This world and the universe.
It's not just young adults. Civil discussion in general is in and of itself an extremely difficult thing, more so when you're talking about something that cuts to the deepest part of your psyche, or soul, and religious discussions and philosophical discussions tend to do that. Most people fill those discussion with awkward smiles and filler words and scattered logic, and pretend that it is civil. True civil discussion requires a serious confrontation for yourself to be ready and have your soul in the front line and ready for the attacks, and by chance that you're wrong, you have to make yourself ready to genuinely accept the right answer.
Big data says the Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women's Movement is a scam. #MMIW #Durangocide
Of course, they are Christian missionaries, Mormons ( who are Christian) are taught good values and agree with most Christians on who is Jesus.
Sending prayers for these two young men! As an X Mormon myself, I promise you that God can reach even the most stubborn of hearts such as mine… God bless these boys!
@@elijahthemessengermalachi3105 I'm not sure if you're trolling or if you simply just haven't read through all of Matthew but this is a blatant misunderstanding of the text at least. In Matthew 19:8-11 we read that Jesus tells his apostles that divorce is only acceptable in cases of adultery. He apostles respond by saying that it is essentially better not to marry at all. Jesus replies with Matthew 19:12 which must be taken in context with the previous verses. They were not discussing homosexuality at all! They were discussing those who had the strength to not marry and stay celibate or those who were born without any sexual desire.
If you can't be rich and a Christian, what would you say about Joseph of Arimathea? 1 Chronicles 29:12-16 states that all riches belong to God and that he bestows them upon people as he sees fit. He only asks that the Christian with riches recognizes this and acts as if he/she believes it through charity as well as tithing. Understand that I'm not a rich man by any means. I struggle to make ends meet and live month-to-month. I have a physical disability which makes this even more difficult but I understand something about the Christian message that seems to be going over your head. We are all rich with gifts, blessings, and privilege in some way or another. YOU are rich and privileged. It's easier for a camel to enter through the eye of a needle than a rich man enter into heaven Matthew 19:24. That includes you, my friend. You see, rather you make $20,000 a year or $2 million a year, the only way into heaven is to accept Jesus Christ by faith and allow his grace to purify you.
I would encourage you to not cherry pick versus to suit the narrative you DESIRE to be true. The Bible must be read in context as a whole and it simply does not fit a woke narrative. The New Testament was written almost 2000 years before postmodernity and even modernity was conceptualized by the French intellectuals of the 1940s and 50s. You will have an extremely difficult time taking the Bible as a whole and making new age philosophy fit.
Amen brother!
@@elijahthemessengermalachi3105 you are misled ,deceived or deceiving and deceived. Some of what you Saud about tithes was correct. Not all and the whole lblmnop thing is way off base.
Amen
@@elijahthemessengermalachi3105 blasphemy. I rebuke you in the name of Christ. Stop deceiving men.
Excellent! I have never been LDS, but have worked with them since 1981. In 1981 I allowed 2 young LDS missionaries to present the lessons to me for 6 weeks. During this time I went to church with them and heard many members share their testimony. They were so disappointed when I didn’t gain a testimony of Joseph Smith and the LDS church.
They asked me to share my testimony at the end of the 6 weeks. I shared my testimony of accepting Christ alone for salvation, by GRACE alone.
I said that I had quietly, patiently listened to everything they wanted me to know and asked if they would now give me equal time to share what I believe. They didn’t. They never had any contact with me again.
I admire these young LDS men for being willing to engage and listen to your points.
It's unfortunate that they wouldn't listen. I don't understand how your testimony that you shared would change that. Lds believe in grace?
@@lollipop1894 “grace, but…” not “grace alone”
LDS is a false Christian cult . Pray for these boys to find genuine salvation through Christ's work on the cross.
@@livehealthyfinishstrong LDS here, we do believe in "grace alone" in the sense that only through the grace of Jesus Christ can we be saved. The hangup is on ordinances, which we believe have been divinely inspired but are not required to "get into heaven." Paul talked about 3 levels of heaven, and the highest requires these ordinances. That is modern revelation that I can testify is true
@baydenator9818 Grace alone?
2 Nephi 25:23 after all we can do
Moroni 10:32 We must deny ourselves of all ungodliness, then God's grace is sufficient
Have you done all that you can do? Have you denied yourself of all ungodliness? Have you kept the commandments perfectly?
Matthew 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect.
In order to be justified before a holy God, we need to be perfect. We need the righteousness of God.
*****
'Modern revelation' contradicts God.
Paul never mentioned levels of heaven. That would contradict what Jesus taught. Jesus Christ said that there was heaven or hell. Even the Book of Mormon teaches heaven or hell.
There is a unique glory/ beauty of things that God has created in the heavens. The sun, moon, and stars.
There is a unique glory/ beauty of things created on the earth.
So also is the resurrection. Everyone will be resurrected and face God. Every will receive an incorruptible body that will last forever in either heaven or hell.
The words heaven, levels, degrees, three, and kingdoms are not in the passage. The made-up word 'telestial' is not there either.
Revelation 21 and 22 tell us what heaven will be like. Believers will be all together on the new earth and new heaven serving God and Christ. No one will be married. Women will not be sharing their husbands with other women for all eternity. The 'other women' will not be separated from their families so they can serve as part of your harem of women on your own planet. God doesn't damn people who deny the eternal principle of polygamy. (D&C 132)
Heaven is a world of love. ❤️ God loves everyone, including women.
I'm a saved born again Christian. Amen! I seen you at Singing in the Sun & just had to look you up. What a blessing you are! I'm crying tears of Joy after watching this message! Keep on keeping on & I know you will! God Bless You & Your Family! AMEN & AMEN 🙏
I admired these young kids because they truly seem to have a good heart
There is no one who is good. Even the good that Mormons do is sinful.
@@cranmer1959 how? Like legitimately that makes no sense
@@JohnSmith_1 Proverbs 21:4 (NKJV): 4 A haughty look, a proud heart,
And the plowing of the wicked are sin.
Plowing is a good work because it feeds the family. Yet even the plowing of the wicked is sin.
@@JohnSmith_1Jeremiah 17:9
@@ThomasCranmer1959 you said there is no one who is good but now you just said they are good
Once a Mormon, I was blessed to have a Christian come by and teach me about the true Jesus of the Bible. When I ask Jesus into my heart it felt like a ton of weight fell off my shoulders. Never felt that as a Mormon.
Then you were never truly a member of the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints. In name only clearly.
@@philliprayjr.2603 how loving of you.
@@philliprayjr.2603 ... Fortunately.
@@philliprayjr.2603.... if only you could see your shackles and leash.
@@JoJo-gy9sw some are willing to take crosses others just to see, which one do you want to be?
I’m not an LDS but I find myself struggling to understand faith with out works and how I am not earning my salvation. You just explained that concept so well for me 🔥
I would reading 1 Corinthians 15. The church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints does not each "earning" your salvation but that everyone receives a degree of glory dependent on the degree of grace you receive. It is also noteworthy that three degrees of glory was taught in early Christianity. Ireneaus, papaias, origen, etc with the idea of eternal hell becoming mainstream in the fifth century AD. The thing most evangelicals ignore is history and the development of theology in early Christianity, as well as the problem of evil and suffering with the traditional interpretation. There are so many holes in the standard interpretation. I would say history is pretty solid evidence for a great apostasy.
Become Catholic we have been Christs church for 2000 yrs tradition is based. Matthew 16:18 viva Christus Rex
God sent jesus to PAY for the holy spirit... through the holy spirit we are saved and with the holy spirit we are able to fight the desires of the flesh... ultimately the reason for why God does anything is that he wants to show his power he wants to bless our lives but he cant do that because we are living in sin he is 3 times saint and that sanctity will consume the sinner or bless the sanctifie... God can only touch us if we are living a sanctified life and with the Holy spirit we are able to live a sanctified life... we are called into sanctification to glorify God not to earn our salvation the salvation is ours the moment you invite Jesus Christ/ the holy spirit into your heart
@@donchuchort2296 catholics are the Harlot of Babylon like in revelations 17
@rachaelpate2085 Believing and doing are two sides of the same coin. You can't truly have one without the other. If you say you believe but dont live a Christ like life, you are professing a lie. But at the same time, doing as Christ taught will not "earn" you salvation. It is a gift. However, it is a gift given only to those who believe - not a professed and shallow belief , but one that leads a person to live a life full of good works.
The scriptures teach that after the resurrection everyone will be brought before God to be judged. And what will they be judged on? The way they lived their life. Their works will prove their faith. Thats why in James he says show me your faith without works, and I will show you my faith through my works. Good works naturally follow those that believe.
People who deeply believe seek intensely to follow Christ. Those whi dont understanding this may try to accuse ithers of trying to earn they way to heaven. But that is sooo far from the truth. They are simply emulating Christ. His life was full of good works. And he invited us to do the same.
These 20 something year old young men are incredible in their knowledge and their pace. I'm amazed and so proud.
They seem like nice kids, but I'm saddened at how deceived they are.
There are many amazing people, being made in the image of God. Some amazing people will go to hell.
This gentleman explains the gospel wonderfully in such a graceful way awesome !!
Brainwashing by professionally trained Christian hustlers is more exciting than a Holy Water enema!!!!!!!!!!
I agree with you. Jeff Durbin knows how to lay it down and also teach. Praise God for him. 🙏
@@shanethompson7878 YOUR BRAINWASHING IS PERFECT! THE PARANOIA AKA INVISBLE ENEMIES IS A MIRACLE!!!!! THE HEBREW MYTHS ARE REAL!!!!!!!!!!!! HALLELUJAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO PROOF OF YOUR POOP BUT YOU ARE SMITTEN!!!!!!!!!!!! IT MUST BE NICE TO SUCCUMB TO CHRISTIAN BOTTOM FEEDERS WHO NEED TO CONTINUE THIS POOP, CUPCAKE!!!!!!!!!!
Good at spouting utter deluded myths
@@shanethompson7878 Jeff is like the skillful Pharisees and persecuters of Christ when he walked among them...
The PERSECUTORS reviled PERSECUTED and condemned Christ and they used the words of dead prophets to do so....
The picture remains the same today.
Jeff is a self proclaimed prophet condemning Joseph Smith of being what he himself proclaims for and of himself....
I guarantee Jeff would have been on the side of the Pharisees declaring the words of Dead prophets to condemn Christ back in the day ...
Interesting that Jeff condemns Joseph Smith as a fraudster and a liar. That Joseph is a liar.
Made it all up and is a deceiver.
All good
For so persecuted they CHRIST and all the early Saints and His true prophets and apostles....
PS
Why would Joseph endure a life of persecution hate and false accusations his entire life to then actually give up his life for something he knew to be a Lie????
Any man who is a genuine seeker of truth and does an unbiased study of his life, who would conclude Joseph to be a liar....
Is in the gall of bitterness and have neither faith hope nor charity....
Joseph was a prophet called of God.
The Book of Mormon is the word of God as is the Bible.
They both testify of each other and to the Divinity of Christ
Simple
Holy Smokes! Incredibly respectful, no interrupting, no yelling, or juvenile regressions! Just some good Christian people.
But they are not Christians, that's the point. Only the guy with the beard is Christian
but those two are NOT Christian 🙄
@@chrispuds He didn't get it after watching the video 🤨🤣🤣
Amen!!🎉🎉
@@chrispuds your absolutely right because they are Fake Christians and Mormonism is Satanism disguised as Christianity.
I don't converse very well but you should see the calluses on my knees! "Thank You God for the Jeffs of this world. In Jesus name, Amen"
This is so sweet, I feel like I can relate.
I’m thanking Jesus for you too right now, in Jesus name, Amen :) ❤
Good job dude. I can't imagine trying to have those discussions with a Mormon, actually two Mormons. Love that neither of you got upset and kept it civil.
Incredible conversation! I pray these young men turn to the true Christ.
This isn’t about slight differences - this is about eternal life. “You who are trying to be justified by the law are alienated from Christ; you have fallen from grace.”
Galatians 5:4 CSB
Slight differences, over the course of a long time, will cause you to miss your destination entirely. If a ship changes its heading even by 1 degree, it will be far removed from it's target destination.
@@rwd2213 I think what he was trying to say is that secondary issues will not send you to hell and that deviation from essential issues do. however if you think that non essential issues send you to hell you may be a pharisee
@@FALL3NW0RLD I am in agreement, that core issues are essential. Similarly, some people can focus so much on the secondary issues, that they get lost on the core issues. Climb out too far on a branch, you will fall to your ruin.
@@FALL3NW0RLD secondary issues like believing in a different god altogether? LDS' god has a father...Islam's god begat no sons...sounds like three different deities.
@May you have peace John 1:1
I felt that way as a Jehovah's Witness too but nothing compared to Jesus Christ saving my life!
Jesus is amazing
I was also raised a JW.
Jehovahs Witnesses believe in Jesus…
What changed you?
@@hereweare9096, the Jesus from a Jehovahs Witness is not the same as the Jesus found in the Christian Bible. They are not the same person. The Bible, New World translation has evidence of text being edited to scrap his deity away. Read John 1:1, the wording is the word was from GOD, not a GOD. Jesus was not Michael the Arch Angel.
Thank God for men like this who boldly proclaim the gospel
Read Romans ch 7 where Paul talks about his own struggle with sin, he says why do I do the things I don't want to do, and why can't I do the the things I want to do, it the sin nature that is in our bodies, that why christian fight against there sin every day, when you fight against your sin cause you hate it that proves that the spirit of God lives in you and that should give you comfort
Praying for these two men. Bless this pastor and his excellent work. He is patient and well versed in the knowledge of the truth.
Profound respect for these two sirs actually listening - that shows great and mature self-control.
@@elijahthemessengermalachi3105 Are you a Mormon??
@@elijahthemessengermalachi3105 What? False teachers get burned the worst, be careful what you say. Your words are not biblical and you are twisting Gods Laws. Literally, marriage is between a man and woman as commanded by God and reaffirmed by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ who is God in the flesh.
These two sirs😄 these two gentlemen would fit better but yea I agree with you sir😉
I assure you, @Elijah the Messenger Malachi 3:1, is not one of us.
Only wish the bearded guy could let them finish talking and stop trying to stumble them by interrupting firmly
I’ve been there man! They are SOOOOOO close yet so far. You can almost see them grasp it, almost see it click!. I come from a family of 11 children, all raised to believe the teachings of the FLDS and LDS church. 9 of us are born again Christians and my parents are so very close to letting go of the perverted gospel of Mormonism. They came to church with us on Sunday to see my youngest brother get baptized. And they thoroughly enjoyed it.
Praying your parents and unconverted siblings have the veil lifted by the grace of God. 🙏
@@dotero1817 Thank you!
Praying for your parents as well! May they receive the grace of our Lord.
That is amazing to hear! Praying the rest follow!
😭 ❤️
Younger people are trying to find their way in the world. They need the truth. This pastor is helping these younger people give their lives to Christ. God bless him.
The pastor is not helping them at all, even with his good intentions.
They have already found and accepted the truth. The pastor is teaching truth mixed with the philosophies of men.
@@parkerbarduhn9293 Yeh, but Mormonism isn't the truth. Everyone knows that.
@@musicmusic9526 It's not "Mormonism" it's the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Mormon is the name of a prophet. I know it's the true Church and God knows I know it. You and others only THINK it's false. What makes you think it's false?
@@parkerbarduhn9293 I used to be a Mormon. You're a Mormon, it's the Mormon Church and the LDS Church. It's all the same. Nothing wrong with being a Mormon. They are some of the nicest people I have ever met. But false doctrine is false doctrine. It's better to get to know the real Jesus. I can show you how if you want to know.
@@musicmusic9526 I am NOT Mormon. Don't call me that. Please call us Christians (we worship Christ, not Mormon) The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is lead by Jesus Christ Himself. There is no false doctrine in Christ's own Church. Why did you leave the Church?
I love the kindness and respect being shown between Mormons and a Christian here! So used to everyone being self righteous and talking down to each other, so this is refreshing to see.
We are not saved by our works but our works is evidence of us being saved.
Faith without works is dead. Also in the bible. Evangelicals seem to forget that part ;-)
@@GwPoKo yep as well as Ephesians 2:8-10. The 10 is always left out 🤷♂️
@@GwPoKo We aren't saved through works though. Again, we work because we are saved
@@GwPoKo read the verse right before that buddy. He was declared righteous by his faith. A dead faith is a faith without works. Works are a sign of a living faith. Doesn’t mean that the works save. Only the blood of Christ saves
@@GwPoKowe are saved by grace through faith as a GIFT of God.
If we had to do something other than believe then it isn’t a gift. However works are sign of living faith because when we have faith the Holy Spirit empowers us to goodness and righteousness.
But again, it’s reiterated time and again that it is Jesus that saves us through faith in him and the sacrifice he performed for us as a gift of God.
This Pastor is solidly based in his scripture. He is blessed with biblical wisdom. I get blessed by listening to him tell people the truth about scripture.
Not in scripture but in the interpretación that others set for him before hand. I have had debates with alot of them and guess what its simple wrong all scriptures that he cited can be debates and clarified or rebuked.
@@nute742except that is incorrect. The BOM itself opposes Joseph Smith and the teachings of the LDS church.
he based allmof this on his own interpretation which h3 claimed the mormons were also doing. Every religion is false.
How so? (just curious what you read or heard of the bom - that you think does that)?
@@teepsfamMost all religions are based on some truths (or philosophies) that are good (for the most part). Many of the details though may differ between them (or even sometimes contradict). In addition all churches are run by imperfect people too (even when Jesus himself) set up his church on earth (as his apostles were not perfect either)But I guess all he has is people to work with.
This video helped lead me out of Mormonism and to a true faith in the Jesus of the Bible. I knew how these young men would speak but your patients and love in sharing truth spoke to me. God does not lie, he is the same from eternity to eternity amen
Praise the Lord. God is great.
This video helped lead me to Mormonism. Thank you folks so much for clarifying for me!
@@sandboxcreations9104 , 🙏🙏🙏u run to Jesus Christ not Joseph. U need the word of God the bible not a so called another gospel. What's the bible say about orher gospels? U better run from the LDS CHURCH and irs deception. God is great. Have a blessed day.
@@marygreen2672 I'm sorry. Based on all the ignorance and blindness of mind I see in the Christian Church, the Mormons seem to have more logic and critical thinking going for them.
I mean, run from the Mormons? And run towards the Bible? How absurd does that sound, to refuse someone that HAS received light from God, for someone that says stick with the Bible, a closed canon for hundreds of years--there's nothing more to see here? "Hallowed are the Ori!" (Stargate reference)
I'm already a dimwit. I don't need to seek more simwittedness. Mormons seen to have open minds and a growing cannon of truth with living prophets!
I hope you didn't leave the Mormon faith ( who worships the same God of the Bible you do ) over this video alone ? Honestly this guy gave his opinion of Mormons too two Mormons but Mormons have a valid faith
Very very good 👍 let's all pray for this 2 boys here that they may receive the gift from GOD
I love these Mormon guys for having a conversation
I got goosebumps at 24 minutes when he said, if I'm wrong, what can I do? I love that they are actually listening to what he is saying. This video is a year old, I wonder what the outcome was from this.
Same here. It would be great to have interviews with the people they've met over the years.
I'm guessing the guy with the little backpack left mormonism. He was pretty nervous lol
@@IanMM88he was nervous when he was Mormon but now he's not
@paulsutton5951 I was trying to say that he seemed pretty nervous that what he believed was wrong. I don't know if he's still nervous or not?
@@IanMM88 if he's still Mormon he's still nervous. If he came to the real Jesus he's no longer nervous
So good. Loved the comments on “allowing the text to speak”. This was an example of leading with love, and speaking the Truth in love.
Eastern Orthodox Christian here. After watching this, I am seriously reevaluating my current soteriological position
I was raised Mormon saved out of it at 22-until I was 21 I was not confronted about my faith and had no thought of it being incorrect, just thought we knew more than other religions- I’m forever grateful for someone that took an interest in me and challenged my beliefs to the point that I cried out to God saying “God, I believe I’m going to be Mormon for the rest of my life, it’s the only thing I know and I think it is true-but if it’s not true I really want to know the truth!”
And within the week I was invited to a presentation of the gospel and the Holy Spirit helped me see the truth and I accepted Christ that night!🎉 God is good and faithful to His word!
If you seek Him you will find Him, if you seek with all your ❤️
Did you stop to think the adversary hates the church so he created lies about it ? The bible is a selection of books by the Catholic church further reduced by the Protestants and oldest manuscripts are 200+ years after jesus death im not sure if you trust catholics or if you know what the game of telephone is but 200+ years is laughable to claim infallibility
Its not about accepting Jesus Christ, its about putting your faith/trust in Him.
@@Nick-Kcin If words have any meaning, Him saying “accepting Christ” means and obviously meant, that Christ is Lord and trust/ belief was placed in Christ alone for eternal salvation which also means “faith.”
Wow! Praise God!
This is awesome🙏🙏
Jeff
You are awesome all the time you spend talking with the LDS people/doctrine on the Bible. God bless you. 🙏 🙏 keep it up spreading the gospel. King of kings Lord of Lords!
Thank you Pastor Durbin for your example of genuine Christian faith, firmly rooted in the holy Word of God. This video was amazing in so many ways and encouraging in a teaching context.
Such a great video!
Guy: “I love your videos and I’m firm in my LDS faith”
Jeff: “I’m glad you like the videos”
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Fr!
It is so painful to watch people having the truth told to them and they flat out reject it. It’s like at that Moment God is bringing them THE truth and they just slam that door closed.😞
@Hlord1109 The Mormons have no truth because they invented false doctrines out of nowhere. They twist the Scriptures to their own destruction:
2 Peter 3:15-18 (NKJV)
15 and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation-as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you,
16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.
17 You therefore, beloved, since you know this beforehand, beware lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the error of the wicked;
18 but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be the glory both now and forever. Amen.
@Hlord1109 did we watch a different video?
@Hlord-be4xx Is the LORD JESUS CHRIST'S Lucifer's brother?
My heart. I was 34 years in mormonism, then 4 years new age consciousness ascension stuff. The bridge from mormonism to new age is a plan from the enemy. I pray so much for the mormons as they are my entire community and family in so utah. The peace of salvation because of Christ alone without my effort, wow. That is the peace missing in the mormons.
Wow! So glad the Lord saved you! ❤
Similar testimony, but no Mormonism. the New Age must be exposed for what it is, because while Africa and Asia become more aquatinted with God, our western world will increasingly follow the lie of witchcraft. Tik Tok brings millions of views to this stuff and it’s going to become worse. My heart also goes out to those still in the lie, but I know God can reach them if they repent.
I am in St G do you have a good church recommendation? Thank you!
@@elijahthemessengermalachi3105 doctrines of demons
@@elijahthemessengermalachi3105 the Bible calls homosexual and effeminate behavior an abomination in the Old Testament and it’s reiterated it in the new. Promoting LGBT under the gospel is about as bad as it gets.
I was just like those young men in the early 1990s. I honorably served two years being a missionary for the LDS church. I’m so grateful that I finally found the real Christ. Thank you for posting these wonderful videos.
So who is the real Christ?
I'm instantly "in love" with Jeff, not the evil kind of in love, but the brotherly Christian love. Instantly, as he spoke, I can feel the love of Jesus. God bless you Jeff! May God continue to bless you! Amen amen
Very mature, measured young men, willing to listen intently, even in disagreement! Very fefreshing! May God bless them with the love of truth and full reconciliation!
Praying for eyes to be opened to the truth of the gospel as found in the Bible!! 🙏
Latter Day Saints read and believe in the Holy Bible.
@@stephaniewilliamson4611 yes. But not as God inspired it, they believe it as interpreted by Joseph Smith and spend a lot more time in the Book of Mormon than in the Bible. Also, there are many inconsistencies between the two books, and they differ to the heresies of Smith and not the Bible.
Amen! Praying 🙏
@@stephaniewilliamson4611 the problem is they don't believe it, they say they do, but they don't...unfortunately
@@stephaniewilliamson4611 They don't believe all of it. did you watch the video? The Bible is good enough for sound teaching. Book of Mormon is not needed to learn the Gospel.
I appreciate these grown-ups having a conversation and not being mean or yelling much respect to both sides.
It take more than Five minutes to undo a Life of indoctrination! I was third generation Mormon. When i Finally Tested my beliefs against what Was Actually in the bible, the Lird took the scales from my eyes!
He also took my pride! I no longer get offended! Or take it personally!
It's what God Says! Not me! Praise Jesus of the Bible, not Religion or Denomination!❤
Jeff is impressive to me. He mastered marital arts, now he's mastered street witnessing. Thanks for posting good examples on how to share biblical truth with Mormons in a respectful, loving way
@Pure Blood Oops I meant to write martial arts 😁
I pray for these young men. I was Mormon for 40 years being born into it. I’m so appreciative that God has opened my eyes and my heart. The Bible and His words saved me and for the first time in my life I now know Him.
What Bible verse changed you that you haven't read in 40 years? I'm curious.
@@jacobsamuelson3181 I was 48 years TBM..it was JW's at my door who challenged me on my belief regarding Adam and Eve in the garden, as they gasped when I stated their choice was right and needful for progression. They pulled scripture from Genesis, and after they left my porch I pulled out my "scriptures" and read the whole of the chapter and realized there was zero scripture to support what I'd been taught in church h a d at the temple.
That opened a floodgate of questions for me, and a lot more seeking scripture to back things up. After several month, I made a clean and painful break from a lifetime of belief and culture, this being over a decade ago, and do not look back as my prayers for coming to know TRUTH has led to much peace and understanding.
@@gdhhayes2129 Ok so you didnt ever read Genesis chapter 3 for 40 years as a LDS? I see where your problem was. There is plenty of scripture to back up Adam's decision. Adam fell that men might be, men are that they might have joy. Mosiah 2:17. You probably didnt consider it scripture as well because it's not in the Bible that you didnt ever read. But did you consider this verse in conjunction with other verses in the Bible. Proverbs 16:4. Romans 8:28. 1st Corinthians 15:22. When you understand that the fruit Adam took was the knowledge of good and evil as written in the Bible. We know that this knowledge was absolutely essential for man to learn to love God. 2 nephi 2. Opposition in all things. We could not know good if we were not subject to evil. Is there a scripture to support you shouldnt take Meth in the Bible? No. So just because there is no scriptural support in the Bible you're supposed to just abandon logic and take meth? No. Your JW friends should have taught you to start reading the Bible that you haven't done but not leave the Church of Jesus Christ because you dont understand scripture or revelation. I have been in the church for about 30 years and I can tell you I have gotten passed Genesis 3 several times and the only context that makes sense is what supports Gods Fathership for His Children. He is all knowing all powerful and all loving. This is why I know Adam fell that men might be and men are that they might have joy.
Congratulations
why did you leave the truth?
My prayer is that every single mormon finds this video, oh how important to know the truth, unbelievable man of god! My hope is that David Alexander will find it as well LO.L
Exmormon here. Thank you for living for the only True God. I'm thankful for the Word of God and its truth for taking me out of that false jesus.
I commend the pastor for being well informed and also standing firm with God's Truth. Amen🇨🇦✝️
Have you ever said, “Jesus is God”?
Testament to committing the Word of God to memory, I need to do better at it
@@pbtg6805 He is…..
It's all made up B.S. it's just funny to watch people getting petty and nit picking each literal thing from a book written by a bunch of filthy goat rapers. If god is unchanging then why would he destroy Sodom and Gamora and not San Francisco, or any of these other places that are FILLED with disgusting homosexuals 🤔 I'm positive that there are tons more homosexuals now than there were back then. So why isn't he destroying them now? People would speak ill of god and be smitten, made dumb, struck dead... now magically nothing. It's America, believe in whatever you want but just know it's retarded. The bible has incest and murder all through out it, concubines (whores) but they play it all off as cool... 😂
amen 🇩🇪✝️
This was probably the best conversation I’ve ever seen Jeff do with Mormons. I hope they thought about it and talked about it more after they left. I love that they took a picture with him afterwards.
God isn’t looking for people of great faith, but for individuals ready to follow Him.czcams.com/video/tLPSsepMUXI/video.html
It was far from hot headed
So much humanity, so much love! I have watched this many times and I pray that God will use me one day to share the gospel like Jeff. I spent so many hours arguing with Mormons because I want to be right.. Jeff led them to Jesus today with care and compassion for their soulsn
These young men are to be highly commended, not because of their beliefs, but because they had this incredible conversation with Jeff who repeatedly showed them their errors yet they never got mad like little children and stormed away angry. They continued to engage on an intellectual level and with respect for Jeff. On that note, I love how Jeff talks to Mormons and JWs with firmness but such love and compassion. Never talking down to them and rubbing their noses in their errors but gently pointing them to Christ. This is how it’s done!
The praise should go to the Holy Spirit working in lives! God calls us to have faith that He’s working in the lives of those that we minister to. Pray for these Mormon men, and have faith that our Lord is seeking them!
this was such an incredible dialogue!! mature men having civil and honest conversation!
I like the humility the two returned missionaries showed. They seemed loving, kind, and genuinely wanted to listen. That seemed very Christlike to me.
False Christ though. The devil is so tricky, so cunning. Always mixing lies with truth to deceive.
I agree about the devil being tricky. However, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints worships the right Christ. I’d like to think that hopefully all Christians do.
@@mikeslagle9795 no Paul says to be saved you need to believe Christ is LORD, God.
@joeypavlik3440 yes that’s right and that’s what’s the church teaches. Paul preached the same gospel that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints preached. Same Gospel, Same Jesus.
Christ never tried to spin the truth to form lies. Not Christlike in the least. More of making evil good.
I never comment on videos, however, this was really educational and refreshing to watch. I’m glad to see people who differ in beliefs be able to have open conversation. Nobody got mad or took things personal and truly used it as an opportunity to pick the mind and beliefs of someone different than them. You can’t find many of these that don’t end in yelling, anger, or name calling. Applaud the young men especially for keeping cool and personally seeking out this engagement.
This was an amazing video and conversation. So respectful and so illuminating. I love the way that Jeff and the LDS guys were able to talk for so long and share their beliefs. I feel as if Jeff was able to really touch these young men with his teaching and I pray they are able to come to a true faith in Jesus Christ and the bible.
God bless this pastor, I feel as though Jesus is speaking through him - you can see the change in these boys the more he speaks...I pray they find the right path.
@Crimson
So true!! They are becoming more Mormon than possible.
@@1Whipperin which says?
An actual LDS scholar gave a solid rebuttal to one of Durbin’s video. If interested do a CZcams search: Jeff Durbin gets destroyed by facts and Logic. I would help with a link but it won’t let me. Good luck.
I feel like I just took a Master Class in Apologetics!🙌🏽
Except it was all subjective and within the context of a faith among thousands which separated from the One, True Church founded by Christ.
Other than that... Great apologetics.. Lol
Just too bad they do not follow their own logic to the true worship within the Church(not churches) founded by Jesus and within which is found the true worship of the Cross from Calvary till now and through all the ages.
"Do this in memory of Me!"
Me too
@optimoprimo132 so which one is the true church you are referring to?
@@brentryan2047
The only one historically founded by Jesus Christ upon the Apostles and continued through the ages until now.
The Church which has produced more Saints and has done more for the world, culture, science, good morality than any other.
Home of the great doctors and early fathers of the Church.
The Church which decided which books were considered inspired and to be included in the bible.
I could name it but I won't. You can recognize it by it's marks.
One, Universal, Holy and Apostolic.
ONE- Singular and not many, undivided, "Upon this Rock I will build My Church" not churches.
One as God is One. One as the the truth is one and not many.
UNIVERSAL- From east to west and north to south. 4 corners of the world. Universal geographically, Universal culturally, Universal racially, Universal for people of all times and places.
HOLY- First because its founder and head is holy, Jesus Christ. Second because it has the power and capacity to produce fruits of true Holiness in its members. It is the sacrament and ark of salvation for all people.
Holy does not mean every individual is holy but because Jesus is Holy and His Church through the sacraments has the aim of making those disposed Holy and perfect as Our Heavenly Father is perfect and Holy.
APOSTOLIC- Founded on the apostles and continued unbroken line of Apostolic succession upon the Authority of Jesus Christ. Infallible and preserver of true doctrine and revelation.
This Church is not a priestless Christianity. It has ordaining succession which can be traced back to each Apostle.
This Church is 3 in 1.
The Church triumphant in heaven, the Church Militant on earth and the Church suffering in purgatory for those being purified before entering the Holy of Holies and beautific vision.
Seek and you will find, ask and it will be given, knock and the door shall be opened to you.
@@brentryan2047I was wondering the same. I’m assuming either Orthodox or Catholic given his reference to the one true church but yeah that’s a great question. We’ll stay tuned
I was a born again and a member now. We are getting close to the return of Jesus, let’s just come together in Christ I know what I know and visa Versa.
Fantastic Gospel message presented with "speaking the truth in love" to these LDS men! Keep it up! I love how well you were knowing the Bible and the core issues of apostasy in the LDS teachings!
My faith is 99% dead so I needed this like them. God have mercy on us all.
Are you working on your faith? Praying, fasting, helping others?
Get into the word of God and you will be able to build yourself up in the LORD like David.
the fact that they came to speak about Christ, shows that they feel the tug in their heart. I am praying for these young men, bring them home Father in Jesus name! Amen!
Their motive is to deceive.
They can be swayed. I wss LDS once, and it took many months for me to get to a point where I could accept Jesus as my Lord and Savior. It didnt happen all at once. I was not able or willing to comprehend what was being told at first, and it took many months to open up to the true gospel.
@@aspectra Yes. But remember that only God can open blinded eyes. All we can do is share the information of the Gospel. The new birth happens by sovereign grace, not free will.
@@aspectrawas you really a member because they quite literally worship Jesus and accept him as the Lord and savior
@@LiveLogic13 as the pastor said many times in the video, the issue is which Christ do they believe? The three of them agreed that if they spoke to members of a non Christian religion that revered Jesus, that that was not the same Christ .
Putting down the lies we’ve been taught can be incredibly hard. But the truth is so worth it.
Which way leads to pride and any degree of self-glory and which way leads to humility and all glory to God?
Love this so much, as a Latter Day Saint (Mormon) going through a nuanced faith transition, and looking to learn, consider, and pray. This conversation more than any other Ive seen has helped.
People calmly explaining beliefs and discussing them
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Hi Curtis, how is your transition going? Have you watched the testimony of the ex Mormon apologist who got saved?
well said
What are your problems with the church?
Mormon is simply amazing..they are true Christian .
@@mrlds3202 The LDS Church fails to teach the Bible's greatest promises. Namely that Christ's righteousness becomes imputed (attributed) to any one who places their full faith in Jesus Christ (Romans 4:22-25). Just as Abraham's faith was accounted to him for righteousness, so it is the case with anyone who places their faith in Christ. Faith in Christ is what justifies us fully and makes us right before God, not religious works (Ephesians 2:8-9) or the law (Galatians 2:16). Do you want to be made right before God? Trust in him alone, not a religious institution, not in works or ordinances, but in him alone. After all Christ proclaimed "It is finished!" before he died on the cross...our debt had been paid, he bore our sins on the cross not in Gethsemane (1st Peter 2:24). Any Christ that requires additional means to heaven is a false one that God warns about in Galatians 1. Trust in the authority of God's word the Bible, not in man. God bless.
I'm not even Mormon. I am a falling Christian in this video convicted me to my very soul I'm in tears of repentance right now and I don't even know what to do
Ask God. Read the Bible. Find a Christian church.
John said that he wrote his letter so that we would not sin...but if we did sin, we have an Advocate, Jesus Christ. John said if we confess our sins to Jesus that Jesus is faithful and will cleanse us of *ALL* unrighteousness. It's just like Jesus told the woman caught in adultery, go and sin no more. We are to stop sinning and have been given the help to overcome sin through His Spirit...but I don't know anyone personally who has stopped sinning...I battle it every day. I do know what John said and take comfort in his words (confess your sin and Jesus is *faithful* to cleanse us of *all* unrighteousness). We must repent and confess our sins from here until the end of our lives in order to stay in fellowship with Him. We must endure till the end. As long as you are turning from sin to God (obedience) and trust in Jesus' atoning sacrifice, that makes us right with God, you/we are saved. We can know we are in Him by searching ourselves to see that we are in the faith (making sure there is no sin, repenting, asking forgiveness, loving others). Revelation defines the saints as those who: keep the commandments of God AND hold to the testimony of Jesus. Those are the two identifying marks of a saint given throughout the Bible. God bless you and maranatha.
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God rejoices over even one person who becomes saved as He says in the gospels. So know that His love is beyond our type of love...He is full of mercy and patience for a heart that repents and is convicted. Go to Him in His Word and He will meet you and lead you.
I find it really sad they can’t see it I pray the lord he opens these men’s eyes.
This pastor is guilded by God❤
I get jealous (in a good way) of how Jeff is able to just whip out scripture (Books & Versus) to help defend the faith. Something I need to be working on. Way to go Jeff, pumped to see God say to you one day, "My good and faithful servant".
Gotta meditate on the word daily, Think about how people can sing a whole song because they're constantly playing it. The same applies when reading the repeating the word in your head.
He gave it his best shot, but he failed to answer the Mormon's key questions "what should we do now"?
@@guens01 All we need is Jesus. He is the way.
Don’t be jealous, he’s intellectually dishonest. LOL
@@RoyalRags22 not quite
I really appreciate these two young men for respectfully and honestly seeking out a meaningful discussion about the Truth!
This is excellent! And i pray for these men to truly trust in Jesus by Faith alone! Praise God
What a blessing. Thank you Jeff and Apologia for this. You kept the conversation of the preeminent issues, God’s revelation/true revelation, the nature and person of God, and the nature and person of the Son. Amen 🙌🏻🙌🏻
I went from Mormon to atheist to Christian. Thank you for your work!
and I went from Hindu to Mormon (aka Christian). Why isn't Mormon seen as Christian? we believe that revelation and the gospel is never ending. When I joined the Church, you feel and understand the true power of the Christ and our Heavenly Father. Feel free to respond, I am INSANELY curious as to why you left?
So glad you came to the truth! There is nothing like Christ's righteousness for forgiveness and salvation.
I’m Christian and might be going Mormon really soon.
@@Iraqveteran-ke6qu Then you must understand that "Mormons" are Christians and follow Christ and see him as the center of the church.
@@Iraqveteran-ke6qu please do your research first! Trust me it will save you a lifetime of shame and unhappiness as well as 10% of all of your income
Laser focus from all 3 of you guys. Impressive. The listening, recall and respect was awesome to watch. The world would be fine if every human conducted themselves like this when we disagree. 💙
Great rebuttal to pastor Jeff Durbin. czcams.com/video/ezVvp5CxQvM/video.html
I agree
Oh my gosh, this is one of the most powerful testimonies of a Christian to LDS returned missionaries. I pray that their eyes and hearts will be opened to the truth of the Biblical gospel. I was in their shoes once and studied my way out of the church and into a saving relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ
I have but one candle of life to burn, and I would rather burn it out in a land filled with darkness than in a land flooded with light czcams.com/video/tLPSsepMUXI/video.html
The problem I have with the "Biblical gospel" is that it's a recent invention not actually something that existed in the 1st century. The Bible if you are referring to 66 books only didn't exist till recently. The scriptures used by the early Christians were the Greek Septigate as opposed to the Hebrew scriptures and the Greek Septigate held more books from the old Testament than our current Bibles do. Also, book of enoch and assumption of Moses are mentioned by St Jude.
Apart from this, the earliest codexes from which our Bible evolved contain other writings besides those in our current New Testament
They're both delusional.
@@ryandalion8379 do you how you're right, or do you hope you're wrong?
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I'm so grateful to the Lord Jesus Christ revealing to me his true identity to me! I'll never forget when God revealed himself to me, even when I stepped away for a short while. God loves us sooo much! He is always with us, even when we think he isn't. When push comes to shove, if you call upon the Almighty Lord our God, he is faster than the speed of light, which He created! That's how much He LOVES us!!! Thank you Lord God Jesus and for your Holy Spirit, Amen!!! ❤
I was raised Mormon, served a mission (in Dallas lol), did ordinance work in the temple, became Elders quorum president, learned about the Book of Abraham's origins, learned of all the other troublesome history, resigned my membership in the Mormon church, took a nearly-4-year journey through Atheism, dabbled in Satanism, met a girl who introduced me to the real Jesus, accepted Him on January 22, 2023 and was baptized about a year later. Every time I hear *Goodness of God* and the lyrics, "All my life you have been faithful" I tear up because God has been holding on to me the whole time, especially through my Mormonism. It seems impossible when I see the veil on my family, that they can't see Jesus for who He really is, but I know that God's got them and is waiting with open arms. Whoever is reading this, you're NEVER outside of God's loving reach. Praise Jesus 🙏
❤ Welcome to the family of God! I love that song as well for other reasons. Grace is always amazing!
These young men are so well spoken ❤
By their fruits you will know the true gospel
His preaching low key fed my soul. Praying for the Mormon men who talked with this evangelist of Christ. Thank you Lord Jesus for doing ALL the work. None of it is from our own hands. We are so greatful for you Lord. You deserve it all. To him are all things and from him are all things. You deserve the glory!
Ex morman here in Eñgland. I kind of do feel sorry for these two guys because i do know how it feels to have everything you believed was true fall down about you. But the true gospel has to be preached. Pray for these and other human beings caught up in these cults. Thank God im free from this one!:
I genuinely love these people who chose to be lds such reverence for God I pray they find the right way ❤
Pastor Jeff, I am so glad you are out there. Thank you for what you do. I really think that you have a lot on your plate and I pray that God will keep you and yours safe, healthy and to be able to continue the mission on are on. God Bless.
Jut listening to this pastor is healing my mind from all the condemnation that I received when I believed in the mormon faith. As he talked I could feel the spirit of the lord tell me that my anger over what the mormon faith did to me can be put aside and I can put my anger away and feel the spirit as it is intended to make me feel. amen.
Why did you leave the Church?
@@parkerbarduhn9293 I found out during ages 6 to 9 that my best friend was sexually molesting' my daughter and the church came to this mans aid. It was when she was 14 she told me. He got off free. THe church had paid to defend him on 2 other occurrences also earlier.
Wow.. this is Gold…
And The old man that tried man that tried to intercept the breakthrough point in the conversation
And then the revelation that’s given to the Pastor towards the end “this is your guy”
Powerful 🔥
Yes, “this is your guy” was so on point and resonated so clearly with me as well. 🙏
It's in plain English and nothing will get through to them. I pray that the Father reveals the truth to them all
Wow this pastor is so gifted in teaching the true gospel and exposing false teaching
It is the pastor who has false teachings.
He is debunked in this 3 part video
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You mean a gospel of grace . Not a WORKS based faith - lest any man should boast.
@@langleybeliever7789 Stop believing lies get your facts here first then we will talk Watch parts 1,2 and 3. We are required to repent, exercise faith, be obedient and serve others. those are all works. However the Grace of Jesus Christ is essential and without that grace would would not be able to return to our Father in Heaven
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@@mikeflanders2173 Don't believe in cults. The bible is not of private interpretation. It wa written long before man made cults.
@@langleybeliever7789 Faith without works is dead. Is also in the bible. But don't tell evangelicals/born-agains that though ;-) They love telling themselves they are saved lol
Love how sincere these guys are
Well said. Can’t add or detract from scripture and definitely left them with their dignity in tact.
The Word of God is living and Powerful. Why can't they just see - the man's Prophesies were wrong!
I’m an active member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. I love conversation about the Lord and wish the best on these three gentlemen. I wish there was more kind conversations, and cordial disagreement like this.
I agree, it’s so nice to listen to civil dialogue among people who disagree. I wish there were more conversations like this instead of heavily edited theoretical arguments from one person.
The Cult of Joseph Shit
I agree!
I would leave the Mormon church as fast as possible
Joseph Smith- seer stone "money digger" and other people's wife luster:
1. He was not considered to be trustworthy by the people of his day.
2. He taught in a version of God different from the Bible.
3. He produced prophecies that didn’t come to pass.
4. He made a mockery of marriage and was not faithful to his wife Emma.
5. He did not know how to translate foreign languages.
6. He said he received a revelation on the Word of Wisdom but didn’t keep it himself.
7. He created a temple system that was in no way similar to the biblical temple.
8. He added in prophecies about himself in the book of Genesis.
9. He said he saw God the Father and Jesus with his own eyes.
10. He was involved with folk magic.
The best one yet for me. To the two mormon guys, you were absolutely awesome. Thank you for your maturity and willingness to listen, discuss and learn. I grew up mormon, somewhat, along with my two younger brothers. He is ABSOLUTELY correct, mormon teaches, and makes you feel like you are not good enough/worthy of Gods grace. Only if you live a perfect life, which is obviously impossible. It has affected my brothers in such a way that they dont know or love Jesus. Thankfully i found christianity i have slowly tried to bridge that gap for them. I pray that one day my brothers will know and love God the way i do.
Everything was made and given to you guy's perfect on earth so yes it was expected.And yes people should have looked at life and want it perfect.You guy's just want to try get out that you all lived Sodom and Gomorrah.
@Nancy
Las Vegas?
Definitely don't teach that..
Ya this is completely inaccurate... Nowhere in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints Is it taught that we have to be perfect.
@@ZacharyCall these guys do a great job at spreading misinformation about the church. This guys who commented has no idea what he talking about 🤦♂
They are definitely searching for the answers, and I pray God continues to work in their lives and to bless them with true gospel to help them realize the truth. 🙏
I pray these seeds grow in them and they discover the truth, Jesus Christ, our savior who died for our sins and is revealed to them.
I love the true gospel 😍😭🙌
"15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
15:2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:" 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.
"1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed." Galatians 1:6-9.
Yes!!!
Love your passion and love for the gospel sister❤️
Pastor Jeff has such a peaceful yet powerful voice of reason in proving the gospel to the LDS. Amen. Praise God.
And satan can appear as an angel of light!
@@jferristube True - but that can be discerned (because he does not have a physical body)
This is without a doubt the best dialogue I have witnessed online between conflicting beliefs, and I have watched many! Excellent excellent video! Loved it.