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  • @ConeOfArc
    @ConeOfArc  Pƙed 2 lety +72

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    • @exo068
      @exo068 Pƙed 2 lety

      When will you continue with the part 2 on the Leopard 2? Great video

    • @guron246
      @guron246 Pƙed 2 lety

      10:02 I heard that many of those tanks actually ended up in the azov batalion of ukrainian army and the contract with Kongo was cancelled. The modification is called t-64b1m and you can actually see them on this video (but in the video author called it t-64bv but it's not a bv): czcams.com/video/-n0QUPKw24Y/video.html&ab_channel=AZOVmedia

    • @LastGoatKnight
      @LastGoatKnight Pƙed 2 lety

      Thanks

    • @cristinmarius
      @cristinmarius Pƙed 2 lety

      How is AW ? Last time I played a few years ago it was trying to much to be WoT.

    • @FirstNameLastName-tg3rc
      @FirstNameLastName-tg3rc Pƙed 2 lety

      Does anyone know what the music at 6:53 was?

  • @lieutenant2463
    @lieutenant2463 Pƙed 2 lety +1321

    feels kinda weird to see him producing this sort of high quality content when I remember that his channel used to just make war thunder meme compilations

    • @shovel662
      @shovel662 Pƙed 2 lety +68

      Our boi grew up so fast

    • @ivanmonahhov2314
      @ivanmonahhov2314 Pƙed 2 lety +22

      And it has errors within the first minute. L7 development began in 1956 after hungarians rolled a T-54 into a british embassy

    • @ivanmonahhov2314
      @ivanmonahhov2314 Pƙed 2 lety +13

      3:10 T-64 has a 115mm gun , T-64A would get a 125mm gun in 1969

    • @briansanchez9899
      @briansanchez9899 Pƙed 2 lety +25

      War thunder meme compilations ARE high quality content

    • @the_official_djalanjs0588
      @the_official_djalanjs0588 Pƙed 2 lety +2

      They grow up so fast.

  • @strongback6550
    @strongback6550 Pƙed 2 lety +590

    230 000$? Wow, that's a steal considering how much a tesla costs brand new. Hell, lot of houses cost that much and I am pretty the tank is gonna win against a house.

    • @ravenouself4181
      @ravenouself4181 Pƙed 2 lety +73

      and you will have something to brag about.

    • @kingoftheneeks3623
      @kingoftheneeks3623 Pƙed 2 lety +31

      Fuel and ammo tho

    • @neilz.
      @neilz. Pƙed 2 lety +46

      imagine tesla making electric tanks. TESLA T1 VARIANT...... oof borked cuz no sun. The sun god has forsaken us!

    • @stolek6908
      @stolek6908 Pƙed 2 lety +15

      @@neilz. Tesla was against any war he was an pacifist. In WW2 croats kill 70% of his family. Elon Musk is clown, puppet of big profit.

    • @robertmaybeth3434
      @robertmaybeth3434 Pƙed 2 lety +5

      lolol house Vs T-64...

  • @wonderwaffle5858
    @wonderwaffle5858 Pƙed 2 lety +194

    it seems like the T-64 almost had dreadnought syndrome where it set the precedent for a new design philosophy, but was then rendered obsolete quickly as new versions of this design philosophy came out

    • @ONEIL311
      @ONEIL311 Pƙed rokem +7

      Honestly a lot of Russian tanks seem to have dreadnought syndrome.

    • @peterl3417
      @peterl3417 Pƙed rokem +4

      @@ONEIL311 It would have wrecked anything had WW3 happened before 91, no? Not that nukes wouldn’t have just ended most life on Earth, but still.

    • @fishyfish6050
      @fishyfish6050 Pƙed rokem +1

      ​@@peterl3417 Air support exists along with Atgms

    • @M4_Sherman587
      @M4_Sherman587 Pƙed rokem

      @@fishyfish6050 anti air exists along with APS.

    • @fishyfish6050
      @fishyfish6050 Pƙed rokem

      @@M4_Sherman587 Radiation missiles exists along with the fact that Aps systems did not even exist in the 60s and the soviet drozd aps system was completely useless

  • @armoredbaguette
    @armoredbaguette Pƙed 2 lety +360

    A friend of mine was an engineer in Kharkiv during the Soviet times and then in independent Ukraine, who worked on a multitude of vehicles, including T-64. I heard a lot of undocumented stories of the said vehicle development, like attempts to put SAMs and autocannons on top of the turret to battle US helis. During tests, the first turrets would crumble after being hit, and that made them irreparable. And repairability was a requirement. So they switched to Al2O3 in the armor department, which solved the problem of repairability even after a penetrating hit. Obviously, a crew wouldn't survive, but that wasn't as big of a concern as the former.

    • @Bird_Dog00
      @Bird_Dog00 Pƙed 2 lety +65

      That's an interesting statement about crew survivability bing of a lesser concern than vehicle repairablity.
      I was always under the impression that the soviet army too vallued a well trained crew higher than the vehicle.
      After all, a tank can roll off the production line in a few days, training a crew takes months at least...

    • @polygondwanaland8390
      @polygondwanaland8390 Pƙed 2 lety +15

      Wouldn't a turret penetration have a good chance of setting off the autoloader anyways? Soviet tanks throwing their turrets is sort of a meme but it's a meme for a reason.

    • @jintsuubest9331
      @jintsuubest9331 Pƙed 2 lety +43

      @@polygondwanaland8390
      The reason is people making meme don't understand shit.
      T-64 stow no ammunition above the turret ring.

    • @matthiuskoenig3378
      @matthiuskoenig3378 Pƙed 2 lety +48

      @@polygondwanaland8390 and that reason is poor training and tactics by Arab users, not a unique soviet design problem. Look up Iraqi abrams, they also lose their turrets when they blow up.

    • @UgandanAirForce
      @UgandanAirForce Pƙed 2 lety +14

      @@Bird_Dog00 well the t-64 was an expensive and advanced tank for it's time, so it kinda makes sense they want it as repairable as possible.

  • @kobeh6185
    @kobeh6185 Pƙed 2 lety +170

    Its certainly scary how little the capabilities of Soviet armor were understood. At the time the US was still fielding the M60, the Soviets fielded not only a smoothbore equipped tank in the T-62, but also a 125mm armed APFSDS firing autoloader tank with composite armor, all in a package that was lighter, faster, and more well armed and armored than anything the west possessed.
    There was a time where Soviet tanks could eliminate any western tank at virtually any combat range.

    • @logannicholson1850
      @logannicholson1850 Pƙed 2 lety +42

      The fact that it wasn’t until highly advanced 105mm rounds and new MBTs like the Abrams and Leo 2 did the west have some sort of counterpart

    • @aymonfoxc1442
      @aymonfoxc1442 Pƙed 2 lety +18

      The West saw AP missiles as an effective counter to Soviet armour during the 1950s and 1960s. The widespread adoption of missiles in West helped convince the Soviets of their validity and thus the urgent need to develop missiles equal or better than those of the US for use in armoured warfare.
      The lineage of the designs that resulted can still be seen today, even in modern Russian armour whilst the West gained time to catch up in the areas of armour development that were dragging the anchor.

    • @Axterix13
      @Axterix13 Pƙed 2 lety +20

      Maybe. Because it is also the case that when the western countries actually faced various Soviet designed tanks, like in the war in Iraq, they found they'd overestimated their abilities. Not saying the Soviets didn't build decent tanks, but, like the T-34, they tend to have a variety of drawbacks that people overlook/ignore.

    • @kobeh6185
      @kobeh6185 Pƙed 2 lety +35

      @@Axterix13 thats a comparison in the opposite favor. A bunch of poorly trained crews in T-72s in extremely disadvantageous positions facing US vehicles with thermal imaging and stabilized weapons is of course a crushing defeat.
      A T-64 firing 125mm anti tank ammunition is without a doubt going to destroy an M60A3 at any reasonable combat distance. Mentioning the Abrams is beyond the point because it represents the closing in the gap between US and Soviet armor. By the time of the Abrams introduction the Soviets had fielded 3 different composite armor tanks with advanced heavy smoothbore cannons. Comparatively the M1 Abrams started with the same 105mm rifled gun as the M60 before it.

    • @hendi1571
      @hendi1571 Pƙed 2 lety +18

      @@kobeh6185 but the M60A3 TTS featured a thermal sight for the gunner and modern 105mm apfsds were capable of penetrating all but the most modern soviet mbts (T-80U/T-80UD, T-72B, T-72B Obr. 1989) frontally. While lacking in armor compared to soviet late second gen tanks, the M60A3 TTS packed a heavy punch and was deadly accurate, its fcs was one of the most advanced of its era, especially as it had a thermal sight, something only T-80UK got.

  • @YARBlackSpark
    @YARBlackSpark Pƙed 2 lety +123

    This video didn't aged well. Now unfortunatly the T-64 has a lot of chances to prove itself on real battlefield.
    Maybe new update?
    Btw. Great job ConeOfArc, loving your content.

    • @EricToTheScionti
      @EricToTheScionti Pƙed 2 lety +12

      It sucks.

    • @baronentertainment362
      @baronentertainment362 Pƙed 2 lety +2

      That it does

    • @dejectedfrogcat2840
      @dejectedfrogcat2840 Pƙed 2 lety +12

      Majorities of the Russian tanks that got knocked out were done by ATGMs/Artillery instead of Ukrainian T-64s, though.

    • @miroslavdockal9468
      @miroslavdockal9468 Pƙed 2 lety

      You meant that vid where Ukrainian T64 shoot other Ukrainians? On pieces? I know, thats Ukrainian tradition. But......

    • @flawer1316
      @flawer1316 Pƙed 2 lety +8

      Tbf. Its mostly how shit the tank is being used.

  • @nhancao4790
    @nhancao4790 Pƙed 2 lety +159

    0:45 Wasnt the L7 development for the Centurion to reliably combat the T-54/55 while the 120mm Conqueror acted as the counter to the IS-3?

    • @ConeOfArc
      @ConeOfArc  Pƙed 2 lety +108

      The 105 was better than the 120 for it because of the reload and lighter weight. Plus ammunition advancements made the 120 less necessary until more recently.

    • @mohamedsewilam4134
      @mohamedsewilam4134 Pƙed 2 lety +20

      ​@@ConeOfArc to my knowledge the 20pdr was developed in response to the is 3 and then the L7 was developed once the British managed to inspect a t54 in Budapest and concluded that the 20pdr performance wont be sufficient enough to co,bat the t54

    • @aymonfoxc1442
      @aymonfoxc1442 Pƙed 2 lety +6

      @@mohamedsewilam4134 I think the 20pdr had been toyed around with during WW2 but the British didn't have tanks capable of housing it to good effect.

    • @jackburton9035
      @jackburton9035 Pƙed 2 lety +14

      Yeah you’re right, the L7 was developed after the British measured a t-55 during the Hungarian uprising in 1956. The British over measured and believed the 20 pounder to be unable to penetrate the t55 and so developed the L7 as a direct competitor. The chieftain was seen as the direct response to the t64 with its 120 l11 which phased out the conqueror and centurion. I think cone has missed some key points here.

    • @mohamedsewilam4134
      @mohamedsewilam4134 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@aymonfoxc1442 20pdr was first used in 1948

  • @Damien_N
    @Damien_N Pƙed 2 lety +58

    I thought that the reason Ukraine continued with development of the T-64/T-80 was on account of inheriting the production line and technical package from the Soviet Union. Likewise for the Russian Federation and the T-72/T-90. I would have thought that Russia would have preferred to further develop the more "prestigious" vehicle - intended for use with it's tank divisions as opposed to the vehicle which was intended to accompany her Motorised Rifle divisions.
    Interesting stuff!

    • @aymonfoxc1442
      @aymonfoxc1442 Pƙed 2 lety +13

      Ukraine did indeed inherit a lot of the production line like most sophisticated engineering products in Ukraine, I believe components likely came from at least three countries.
      The Ukranians have certainly made it an indigenous sovereign manufacturing capability now.

    • @matthiuskoenig3378
      @matthiuskoenig3378 Pƙed 2 lety +9

      The Soviets chose uvz to produce the next main tank for shock armies to replace the t-80 and t-64. This is because the t-72b proved uvz could produce superior armour layouts, reliability and range while still being cheap to produce and the only reason the t-80s outperformed them was better optics and firecontrols where were not part of kharkov's design but something added later. This resulted in objects 188 and 187, the former of which eventually became the t-90, both are uvz designs. Object 187 was the prefurred choice, basically being to a t-72b what a t-62 was to t-55 (new turret, modified and lengthened Hull, but a ton of interchangable parts) but Russia chose the 188 becuase of a lack of funds after the fall of the ussr (thus only building the object 188 which was originally just going to be called the t-72bu as it was intended to be a t-72 upgrade. But when it became the t-80 replacement instead it got a fancy new name, the t-90)

    • @hendi1571
      @hendi1571 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@matthiuskoenig3378 wasnt the turret armor layout and strength of the T-80U or at least the UD comparable to T-72B?
      Furthermore Objekt 187 was not simply an T-62 like Improvement over T-72s qualitys, it introduced a new hull and especially ufp layout (which russian tanks lack up to this day) and a new layout for the engine. So it implemented totally and radically new features.

    • @Nothing_._Here
      @Nothing_._Here Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@hendi1571 T-80U has armor far superior to T-72B, T-80UD has armor superior to T-90. The T-90A's turret is even based on the late T-80UD's turret. I'm not sure why Matthius is talking out of his ass.
      Obj-187 failed in it's attempt to be selected as the new USSR tank, Obj 477 was intended to go into production in the 1990s as it vastly outperformed all the alternatives. T-80UD was intended to be an intermediate production tank until 477 was in inventory in significant numbers.
      T-90 was never a replacement for T-80s, it was meant to replace T-72Bs. The only reason it hasn't is a lack of funds.

    • @hendi1571
      @hendi1571 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@Nothing_._Here I'm not quite sure about this. There are varying accounts and opinions according to which the armor (turret front) of T-80U is either slightly weaker, slightly better or somewhat substantially better compared to the T-72B. The latter seems indeed most accurate as development of Objekt 187 and 188 was supposedly initiated with the intent to raise T-72 protection to T-80U level. But I've seen the hint that T-72B obr. 1989 was already a major step in this direction, which would make sense as Objekt 188 did not really have far better armor than this latest T-72 variant and instead featured a capable FCS. So as I said that's quite contested. And as the layout of the armor of T-80U and T-72B is significantly different its hard to compare. Furthermore T-80Us turret armor was improved over time, especially in 1989 which makes it even mor complicated.
      But in this case, T-80UD turret armor would outperform T-90 by a pretty big margin as the former surpasses T-80U itself and the latter is more or less the same as T-72B.
      But T-90A turret is unlikely to be based on T-80UD. It was based on Objekt 187 welded turret - yeah, Objekt 478BK had a welded turret as well but it was Kharkov's product. Furthermore this would mean that T-80UDs armor layout would follow the one of T-72B, as T-90A still shares the basic layout of T-72B afaik. And that seems pretty unlikely but its not impossible as T-80UD's turret armor significantly varied from T-80U.
      T-80UD was adopted as it was far cheaper in production and service than T-80U - a gas turbine was around 8 to 10 times more expensive than a diesel engine and had a 1,2 to 1,4 times higher fuel consumption. After Ustinovs death a new high capability Diesel engine tank became bearable again - introducing T-80UD.
      While T-90 may not have been inteded to replace T-80s in service, it replaced them in production as producing 3 different designs at the same time (T-80U in Omsk and by Kirov; T-72 and T-90 by UVZ ) was deemed not feasible and Yeltsins Russia-policy played a role as well.

  • @dyerwulf5459
    @dyerwulf5459 Pƙed 2 lety +54

    Production quality for this channel is improving in leaps and bounds. Keep up the good work.

  • @brendonbewersdorf986
    @brendonbewersdorf986 Pƙed 2 lety +29

    T-64 is probably my favorite MBT of all time

    • @RustyBear
      @RustyBear Pƙed 2 měsĂ­ci +1

      It looks so cool. Especially the ukrainian variants

  • @MrX-un8cz
    @MrX-un8cz Pƙed 2 lety +19

    The Soviet and german really know how to make a gorgeous looking tank

    • @keirfarnum6811
      @keirfarnum6811 Pƙed 2 lety +2

      I think America makes the best tank of all; it flies and goes “brrrrttttttt”. 😁

    • @SuperSladjo
      @SuperSladjo Pƙed 2 lety +14

      @@keirfarnum6811 nah

    • @-Ryan_Gasoline-
      @-Ryan_Gasoline- Pƙed rokem

      @@keirfarnum6811 Oh no! It's retarded!

    • @-Ryan_Gasoline-
      @-Ryan_Gasoline- Pƙed rokem

      @@keirfarnum6811 My guy, literally any tank is obliterated by an A-10, even the M1A2SEP, yep! The abrams isn't invincible! Although unless it isn't shot down since it doesn't have much missile protected like fighter jets such as the F-35,22 and 18.

  • @robeadon2937
    @robeadon2937 Pƙed 2 lety +23

    1000 FREE TANKS! That's like 2 each for every player left on their servers!

  • @trentongoertz876
    @trentongoertz876 Pƙed 2 lety +11

    Well we got to see it truly tested finally.

    • @eaar
      @eaar Pƙed 2 lety

      :(

    • @dement_tf2maybe
      @dement_tf2maybe Pƙed 2 lety

      That's the T-72 doe

    • @Ry-bo9hi
      @Ry-bo9hi Pƙed 2 lety

      They do not do well alone

    • @Ry-bo9hi
      @Ry-bo9hi Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Ukraine had alotta these, but right now it seems that they exhausted most if not all their T64s with the remaining probably in the western territories or in use by LDNR
      But early on we got to see alot of the T64s (usually ganked on) kinda unfortunate ngl I liked how they looked

    • @RustyBear
      @RustyBear Pƙed 2 měsĂ­ci

      @@Ry-bo9hiukraine still has them. Azov uses them and basically every tank brigade. Even though captured and field modified T-72 are also very common

  • @captainkrazee7726
    @captainkrazee7726 Pƙed 2 lety +4

    Little did he know what was to come in the following months

  • @Niko-xt5bs
    @Niko-xt5bs Pƙed 2 lety +11

    You could have talked about the t64 2017 model, nozh (knife) ERA, a thermal sight, new comms equipment, its certainly interesting.

    • @scandited2763
      @scandited2763 Pƙed 2 lety

      Or Bulat - quite interesting too

    • @RustyBear
      @RustyBear Pƙed 2 měsĂ­ci

      @@scandited2763bulat 2 is even better

  • @samwill7259
    @samwill7259 Pƙed 2 lety +10

    Man...that had better be one great, big bench. None of the ones I've ever seen could be warmed by a tank. Unless you're ok with it getting "warmed" while also ending up in small pieces, flying away from one another at high speed.

  • @summoningsaltfanhere2283
    @summoningsaltfanhere2283 Pƙed 2 lety +14

    Let’s go t 64

  • @werrkowalski2985
    @werrkowalski2985 Pƙed 2 lety +15

    "We will fight the strongest army in the world" That aged well.

  • @OSTmm
    @OSTmm Pƙed 2 lety +3

    One of my favorite tanks ever made. Even with its flaws, I love the design. The BV variant is a personal love of mine.

  • @monnorcerkl9731
    @monnorcerkl9731 Pƙed 2 lety +5

    I think an episode of Sails and Salvos on the USS Alabama (BB-60) would be neat since It’s the only American ship honored by the Soviets after WW2 among other neat things

  • @impguardwarhamer
    @impguardwarhamer Pƙed 2 lety +8

    0:40 That's not true. The L7 was a reaction to the T-55, that where briefly captured during the hungarian revolution.
    The initial response to the IS-3 can be seen more in the development of the Conqueror and M103

    • @miltaryaddict1
      @miltaryaddict1 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Its obscenely untrue given the 13 year gap between the unveiling of the IS-3 at the berlin victory parade, and the L7 being first mounted in a production tank in 1958

    • @impguardwarhamer
      @impguardwarhamer Pƙed 2 lety +8

      @@miltaryaddict1 to be fair that does sound par for the course of british army competency

  • @wolfeye2717
    @wolfeye2717 Pƙed 2 lety

    Honestly i love how this channel is going. Moving from warthunder to quality stuff

  • @aymonfoxc1442
    @aymonfoxc1442 Pƙed 2 lety +26

    A very well made and well researched video mate however, one note is that against up-armoured Cold War era tanks, many believe that the Ukranians' Cold War era armour piercing sabot shell may be found wanting at medium and long ranges.
    A HE shell may also therefore be selected to deal with these in a fashion similar the Germans peppering Soviet armour with HE in WW2, when their 37mm and 57mm AP shells struggled against the T-34 and KV-1. The Americans also did this to some degree when encountering German heavy armour and even Panthers.
    The HE has a chance to cause damage and holes in the top of the tank and shrapnel to split off inside the tank from the percussive force. Shrapnel can include metal fragments and paint chips/ dust; making it dangerous and even lethal.
    Some tank hulls have been known to amplify the percussion, making things worse. HE may also cause the damage to, or misfiring of, some reactive armour modules - making a tank more vulnerable to the old AP shells.
    I haven't researched the T-64's characteristics against percussive forces but since it is such an early example of its MBT lineage, I'm inclined to imagine vulnerabilities remain.
    Although this would be less than an ideal situation for warfighting, it would be a fair fight if both sides now face the same problem with the same tanks.
    I do note that the infantry support role does indeed tend to be the dominant use of the T-64 tanks in Ukraine today but I just thought that I'd provide a cautionary note as an example of how the load out of tanks can be deceiving without specific context, especially since they will still form the backbone of Ukraine's armoured response against a Russian incursion if Ukranian drills are an accurate guide.

    • @werrkowalski2985
      @werrkowalski2985 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      You are comparing post WWII tanks to WWII tanks though, I'm pretty sure the T-64 had some sort of a spall liner, meaning unless it is hit in a place where there is like ~40mm of armor it should be ok.

    • @aymonfoxc1442
      @aymonfoxc1442 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@werrkowalski2985 Yeah but I doubt they are just going to stare at each other and wave as they go by, and like I said that may also be hoping to open a gap in the reactive armour's protection to make scoring an effective hit possible but I'm spit-balling here mate. You'd have to be on the front or in the motor-pool to know what they are thinking.

    • @aymonfoxc1442
      @aymonfoxc1442 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@werrkowalski2985 In WW2, it sometimes took dozens or even hundreds of direct hits to elminate a KV-1 like this with the small calibre guns.

    • @MrToasterWaffles
      @MrToasterWaffles Pƙed 2 lety

      @@aymonfoxc1442 Yeah I’m kinda failing to see the point of using HE for just the chance of something happening instead of using regular AP rounds. Like sure you explained HE can be effective but wouldn’t AP accomplish all of that and to a better degree?

    • @aymonfoxc1442
      @aymonfoxc1442 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@MrToasterWaffles Not if the 'AP' round being used isn't capable of penetrating the target.

  • @Mati_Panzer
    @Mati_Panzer Pƙed 2 lety +6

    this was awesome, the only nitpick I personally have is that I feel the intro is a tad too long, but that could just be me

  • @pjduker05
    @pjduker05 Pƙed 2 lety

    Mad props to your video. Very comprehensive with out boring me to sleep. And sorry to hear about your friend. May the souls of the faithfully departed rest in peace. And may perpetual light shine upon them. Amen.

  • @tasman006
    @tasman006 Pƙed 2 lety

    Been hanging for this vid. Excelent. Can't wait for the next one keep them coming.

  • @therealrat
    @therealrat Pƙed 2 lety

    Gotta say glad to see you know of the American heritage museum. When I walked into the main hall I thought I died and went heaven

  • @jerdasaurusrex557
    @jerdasaurusrex557 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Soviet Union: where making 12000 of a tank is prefaced with "Only".

  • @YoRHaUnit2Babe
    @YoRHaUnit2Babe Pƙed 2 lety +1

    I have used the T64B SO MUCH and ofc all Tech tree-72s and oh man was that a true blast in Armored Warfare. (note, now that the M1 Abrams has been buffed to a more Tier 6 standard, I'd say watch out for that thing. use that turret armour, stay very sharp, watch your allies and watch your flanks.)

  • @T51B1
    @T51B1 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Ukraine still uses the T64 because they inherited production facilities for them within their country during the breakup of the USSR. They have steadily upgraded them and haven't replaced them because they still work for what they need them to do

  • @MrMaximkozin
    @MrMaximkozin Pƙed 2 lety

    thanks I often find myself looking up data about those cutting edge designs

  • @pat0652
    @pat0652 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    "Chemical warhead" could be misunderstood. I'd just say HEAT/Shaped warhead.

  • @nopenope8418
    @nopenope8418 Pƙed 2 lety

    Ok, that introduction was really great!

  • @KorianHUN
    @KorianHUN Pƙed 2 lety +2

    I never thought i would see 2014 events in a history video about a cold war tanks combat record...
    I used to talk to someone on an international messaging app who lived in the city where the Russian-Ukrainian tank battle happened in southern Ukraine. She said they saw "tanks on the streets waiting for the Russians" if i remember correctly. When not in imminent danger local kids climbed up to see them, as tanks are naturally interesting and cool to people in general. She said it was much better when they didn't have to fear a tank battle happening.

  • @LooWa01
    @LooWa01 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    So part III is incoming soon

  • @rhystaylor851
    @rhystaylor851 Pƙed 2 lety +58

    T64 was my fav tank to play in AW and imo the coolest early cold war MBT. Sadly dead game now :(

    • @steweygrrr
      @steweygrrr Pƙed 2 lety

      In which modes? PvP and PvE or just the PvP scene?

    • @rhystaylor851
      @rhystaylor851 Pƙed 2 lety +3

      @@steweygrrr PvP for sure, last time I tried to play I couldn't get a match in anything over tier 4 even after being in queue for +10mins

    • @rhystaylor851
      @rhystaylor851 Pƙed 2 lety +4

      PvE is still a thing because it's so few players, but it gets quite repetitive after a while which sucks the fun out

    • @steweygrrr
      @steweygrrr Pƙed 2 lety +4

      @@rhystaylor851 I never really enjoyed the PvP because it always devolved into pixel hunting back when I played. Shame about the PvE too because it's really the only game of it's type that offers that kind of content.

    • @rhystaylor851
      @rhystaylor851 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@steweygrrr yeah PvE was fun for a while, but the bots really didn't offer much a challenge after you'd memorized where they spawned, and there wasn't enough variety to keep me interested

  • @BrokenHeart-me5rc
    @BrokenHeart-me5rc Pƙed 2 lety +8

    Soviet has legendary turret

    • @lordphullautosear
      @lordphullautosear Pƙed 2 lety

      Yep, legendary for catastrophic turret separations when fired on by Bradley chain guns...

    • @oryanhill1135
      @oryanhill1135 Pƙed 2 lety

      He didn't say it was a GOOD legend

  • @vladworldzmason8244
    @vladworldzmason8244 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    T-80 is not direct descendant of anything, Its completely other new tank, different plant, different construction and development company.

  • @Miisairu
    @Miisairu Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Its nice to see mostly czech modifications in videos about soviet tanks :D

  • @artycat0811
    @artycat0811 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    USSR: 64s too expensive, give me 1000s of cheap 72s

  • @alexwest2573
    @alexwest2573 Pƙed 2 lety

    The t-72 GoPro vids are really interesting to watch

  • @davidwilliams7723
    @davidwilliams7723 Pƙed 2 lety +6

    Welp....

  • @fatherland5057
    @fatherland5057 Pƙed 2 lety

    I love the forged in combat vids

  • @paststeve1
    @paststeve1 Pƙed 2 lety

    Great video! Thanks for the great content!

  • @badhippo
    @badhippo Pƙed 2 lety

    Good video. Informative, insightful, and visually satisfying.

  • @Joe-lo4rc
    @Joe-lo4rc Pƙed 2 lety +8

    Aged like a fine milk

  • @christopherweaver9543
    @christopherweaver9543 Pƙed 2 lety +15

    Surprised Armored Warfare is still around, Especially after they ended their contract with Obsidian and the quality of the game went straight down into the shitter like 4 years ago

    • @KiLDELTA
      @KiLDELTA Pƙed 2 lety

      Kept alive by EU, CN and some asian players... a few US still

    • @polygondwanaland8390
      @polygondwanaland8390 Pƙed 2 lety

      Yeah, I played it back when Obsidian was involved and it was clear even then that the player base was in trouble.

    • @boymahina123
      @boymahina123 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@KiLDELTA RU keeps PvP running, everyone else keeps PvE running

    • @boymahina123
      @boymahina123 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@polygondwanaland8390 Which is strange since literally everyone seems to say that Obsidian's direction would have beat WoT, when i've heard they balanced just about as bad as Wargaming.

  • @Bluehammer32
    @Bluehammer32 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Ain’t gonna lie the T-64 is my favourite Cold War MBT.

  • @unbekannternr.1353
    @unbekannternr.1353 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    This active armor makes it superior against Obj. 279!

  • @leflavius_nl5370
    @leflavius_nl5370 Pƙed 2 lety

    Cool video, Cone, thank you!

  • @TVideoCZ
    @TVideoCZ Pƙed 2 lety +6

    Why most of the T-55s and T-72s I've seen in museums on youtube are from Czechoslovakia.

    • @ConeOfArc
      @ConeOfArc  Pƙed 2 lety +11

      The Czechs have alot of old hardware for sale from what I know.

    • @armchairgeneralissimo
      @armchairgeneralissimo Pƙed 2 lety

      Czechoslovakia recieved lots of tanks from the Soviet Union at their peak they had over 4000 MBTs in service. As I'm sure you can figure niether the Czech republic or Slovakia need armies that big anymore. The Czech army has 50 T72s still in service with 60 in reserve, whilst Slovakia only have 20 T-72s.

  • @danepatterson8107
    @danepatterson8107 Pƙed 2 lety

    I really enjoyed this one!

  • @doogustrog
    @doogustrog Pƙed 2 lety +6

    This video aged like fine milk

    • @Creppystories123
      @Creppystories123 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Well not... Beacuse Russia isnt using the t64....

    • @doogustrog
      @doogustrog Pƙed 2 lety

      @@Creppystories123 it will happen eventually, Russia is exhausting their supply of vehicles

    • @doogustrog
      @doogustrog Pƙed 2 lety

      @@Creppystories123 hell, they’ve already deployed the BMP-T and the only T-80UM2 EVER, with the Drozd 2 APS

    • @Creppystories123
      @Creppystories123 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@doogustrog there are like 30 of them

    • @doogustrog
      @doogustrog Pƙed 2 lety

      @@Creppystories123 Nah, there’s one UM2 prototype

  • @honda6353
    @honda6353 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Man, 200k for each Tank, wouldn't mind if I do.

  • @shadow_entity9191
    @shadow_entity9191 Pƙed 2 lety +5

    Soviet Bias 2.0
    Also: Will there be a Cone-chan anime at some point?

  • @chadmcvirgincock5030
    @chadmcvirgincock5030 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    One of the experts that observe The Ukranian T64 is The lack of newer Anti tank shells Because the current shells the Ukranians are using are the old Shells for its cannon

  • @trashcontent9637
    @trashcontent9637 Pƙed 2 lety

    Thanks for for sponsoring this video!

  • @davonmulder8458
    @davonmulder8458 Pƙed 2 lety +5

    that intro confused the hell out me ngl, i was not expecting a woman's voice

  • @user-vz8xf9bi8b
    @user-vz8xf9bi8b Pƙed 2 lety +1

    ХлужОл ĐŻ ĐœĐ° Đą-64А. ĐĄ 1975-1977гг.Đ’Đ”ŃĐœĐ°. ĐšĐŸĐłĐŽĐ° я служОл...Ń‚ĐŸ это Ń‚Đ°ĐœĐșĐž ЎажД ĐœĐ” былО ĐČ Đ“Ń€ŃƒĐżĐżĐ°Ń… ĐČĐŸĐčсĐș ĐČ Đ“Đ”Ń€ĐŒĐ°ĐœĐžĐž. ĐŻ ĐČĐŸŃŃ…ĐžŃ‰Đ°ŃŽŃŃŒ Ń‚Đ°ĐœĐșĐŸĐŒ " Đ›Đ”ĐŸĐżĐ°Ń€ĐŽ-1". Đ§Ń‚ĐŸ уЎОĐČĐžŃ‚Đ”Đ»ŃŒĐœĐŸ.....ĐČ Đ ĐŸŃŃĐžĐž...,ĐŽĐ° Đž ĐœĐ° быĐČŃˆĐ”ĐŒ ĐĄĐĄĐĄĐ .... сДĐčчас ĐČсД Đ”Đ·ĐŽŃŃ‚ ĐœĐ° Đ“Đ”Ń€ĐŒĐ°ĐœŃĐșох Đ°ĐČŃ‚ĐŸĐŒĐŸĐ±ĐžĐ»ŃŃ… .

  • @SuspiciousSniff
    @SuspiciousSniff Pƙed 2 lety +4

    Let’s gooooo T-64

  • @Kyanzes
    @Kyanzes Pƙed 2 lety

    4:34 "Thanks children!" or "Thanks guys/boys!"

  • @terrynewsome6698
    @terrynewsome6698 Pƙed rokem +1

    For 7 months it has been in a baptism of fire. And all things considered it has done quite well. Is it amazing, no. But is it good enough for a army that needs mostly modern tanks on mass, yes.

    • @Orcawhale1
      @Orcawhale1 Pƙed rokem

      The T-64 has been used in combat since 2014, so this is by no means it's baptism of fire.
      And Ukraine actully plans to phase them out, after the war is over, and standardize on the T-72 and T-80.

  • @Swellington_
    @Swellington_ Pƙed 2 lety +5

    Damn,$230,000.00 for a T-64? That's cheap

    • @MyTran-gn4rk
      @MyTran-gn4rk Pƙed 2 lety

      It depends on inflation but it might still be cheap even if stuff like the T-72 were as much as 40% cheaper.

    • @armchairgeneralissimo
      @armchairgeneralissimo Pƙed 2 lety

      @@MyTran-gn4rk You're looking at about $250,000 for a very out dated but in good mothballed condition T-72M

  • @lego_military_studios5918

    Could you do a short or full video of the Mark IX tank? I’ve liked and shared the videos sense couple weeks ago to a lot of people.

  • @r-saint
    @r-saint Pƙed 2 lety +2

    During tank-on-tank engagement in 2014, Ukrainian T-64s were able to disable several Russian T-72s with HE hits, apparently even when hit from the front, 125mm shell can and will ignite the engine of T-72. After that, T-72s were abandoned by the crews during the battle.

    • @keirfarnum6811
      @keirfarnum6811 Pƙed 2 lety

      Fascinating. So the older tank beat it’s replacement? That’s usually not how it works.

    • @r-saint
      @r-saint Pƙed 2 lety

      @@keirfarnum6811 T-64BV and T-72B2 are only marginally different, the gun is the same.

    • @salamander4668
      @salamander4668 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@keirfarnum6811 not really, most of the operatable 64s were destroyed during 2013

    • @nicolas8098
      @nicolas8098 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@r-saint "T-72B2" yeah ... no , and T-64BV and T-72B3 (which was used by russian in donbass) are quite different , B3 as way more armor , better FCS , better engine for exemple

    • @elusive6119
      @elusive6119 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@r-saint There definitely could not be a T-72B2 "Slingshot", this is a prototype of the UVZ modernization for the T-72B in 1989. it is the basis for the T-72B3, but it is very different from it.
      T-72B 1989, similar to the B3 because it is being upgraded from this model. The most protected and dangerous.
      T-72B1 (BV) simplified model T-72B 1984.
      T-72B3 2013 is a T-72B 89 body with complete disassembly, defection and replacement of systems, engine and weapons with T-90A 2004 and modern T-90S systems.
      The T-72A was not used, as far as I know.
      The T-64A is the original model, has no EPA, weak armor, poor reliability, but good FSC.
      T-64BV mid-80s, there is a first-generation EPA, excellent FCS, armor at the level of T-72B 1984, as well as reliability problems.
      T-64BM Bulat - T-64BV with a heavy Knife-type ERA, suffered heavy losses, was withdrawn from the conflict zone due to constant breakdowns, very weak chassis.
      The T-64M is the T-64BV, but with a Polish thermal imager and a new "light" epa "knife", some analogue of the T-72B3, work on errors regarding the T-64BM Bulat. But they are few.
      In addition to the T-72B3 (Catherine generation 2+ cooled thermal imager) and the T-64M (not cooled generation 1+), the listed tanks do not have thermal imagers.
      125mm guns are really similar and use the same high-explosive shells. But the T-72B3 uses the A46M5 cannon T-90A with a slightly different design and improved characteristics, the T-64BV and T-72B use standard 2A46-2 and 2A46-1.
      the main shells for these guns are high-explosive or cumulative. They are much more powerful and closer to artillery shells than tank shells in the usual view. In addition, the T-64BV is much more advanced than the T-72B, but inferior to it in reliability and protection, the guns are the same. They were produced in parallel and it is not correct to assume that the T-64BV is older (in addition, there were also T-80B and 3 (!) tank models at the same time), this is not so.
      A high-explosive projectile has every chance of damaging any tank because it is a 5-6kg land mine. It can ignite the external tanks, damage the cannon and take everything off the armor, including ERA, which will detonate at the same time. If the tank received several hits at the same time and lost mobility or the ability to shoot, it is thrown because the crew is more priority.
      And ... yes, in this conflict, the use of AFPDS is rather episodic because high explosive (hash) are quite effective and universal for all purposes, besides there are many of them, and there are practically no afpds, and the old ones are not effective.
      The exception is the T-72B3, which has much stronger armor, the same ERA and a modern thermal imager arrow, while a new gun and shells. In total, 5 (!) T-72B3 were lost, most likely due to ATGM on board or massive shelling. The losses of the T-64 from all sides are almost 400 tanks. T-72B3 among the old tanks is a fox in a chicken coop at night.
      All losses of armored vehicles are reflected on the lostarmor website.

  • @Hugh.Gilbert
    @Hugh.Gilbert Pƙed 2 lety +1

    That code looks like the name of an Ibanez guitar

  • @quirkymender0953
    @quirkymender0953 Pƙed 2 lety

    i think they were more scared of a bt 5/7 with those artillery rockets on the turret rather than the is 3.

  • @adamscease4126
    @adamscease4126 Pƙed 2 lety

    It began with the KVs

  • @buckstarchaser2376
    @buckstarchaser2376 Pƙed měsĂ­cem

    5:30 This seems to be a common saying among countries who want them dollars.

  • @zooweemama911
    @zooweemama911 Pƙed rokem

    Bro got the BF1 end game announcer lmfaoo

  • @prehensileman7254
    @prehensileman7254 Pƙed 2 lety

    It began with the TV-1

  • @theboreditamar2108
    @theboreditamar2108 Pƙed 2 lety

    THIS INTRO IS AMAZING

  • @hyenahallstrom7034
    @hyenahallstrom7034 Pƙed 2 lety

    Oh shit I was just at the museum you used for B-roll in the opening

  • @randomlyentertaining8287
    @randomlyentertaining8287 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Fun Fact: Bulat is a Russian transliteration of the Persian word fulad, meaning Steel. So the T-64 Bulat means T-64 Steel. Humorous.

    • @LayronPK
      @LayronPK Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci

      russian transliteration? For the tank, that was named in Ukrainian?

    • @randomlyentertaining8287
      @randomlyentertaining8287 Pƙed 2 měsĂ­ci

      ​@@LayronPK While Ukrainian is its own language and is the official language of the state, most Ukrainians either prefer Russian or speak both languages interchangeably. It's actually considered a problem by the Ukrainian government, who have had to mandate Ukrainian be used in all school classes that do not require a second language.
      Plus the meaning of the word doesn't care about who used it, it still means the same thing.

    • @LayronPK
      @LayronPK Pƙed 2 měsĂ­ci

      @@randomlyentertaining8287 Ukrainian tank = Ukrainian transliteration. It's that simple

  • @treadheadpete4770
    @treadheadpete4770 Pƙed 2 lety

    Great vid!

  • @quinlanal-aziz6155
    @quinlanal-aziz6155 Pƙed 2 lety

    Bro this footage is from the American Heritage Museum in Holden Mass

  • @originalSPECTER
    @originalSPECTER Pƙed rokem

    “Conelyfans” LMFAO

  • @darth_elsa6681
    @darth_elsa6681 Pƙed 2 lety +10

    Soviet/Russian tanks may not be the beat tanks in the world....but they are the best looking. A tank has to have curves đŸ’ȘđŸŸđŸ’ȘđŸŸđŸ’ȘđŸŸ
    But on a serious note....their tanks suffer more from poor use and bad tactics....Chechnya is a great or rather poor example of bad tactics.
    Hell during The October War the Egyptians proved the T-55 was a decent tank when used with combined arms tactics. The Syrians on the other hand just sent them forward by the hundreds against well prepared positions and it turned out as well as you could expect.

    • @raff257
      @raff257 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      And they stripped the explosive from the ERA Making it completeley useless

  • @hugo8851
    @hugo8851 Pƙed rokem

    Very interesting, when is a video on the T72 coming? I’ve always felt curious about why the wheels of the t64 and t72 are so different and what advantages each wheel design has. Also it would be interesting to know if there is a big difference in armor protection between the t64 and t72 in the early variants.

    • @namefamily2748
      @namefamily2748 Pƙed 10 měsĂ­ci

      Fast answer:
      T-64 wheels were made to accoplish weight reqirements.
      T-72 were heavier,but much more reliable, durable, and better

  • @andron2348
    @andron2348 Pƙed rokem

    Very informative video, How about a little freeze frames highlighting each model?

  • @PanzerChief
    @PanzerChief Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Can u not distort the aspect ratio of old video I want to see them in their actual size and beauty. Cheers your channel is still one of my favorites

  • @Galmoori
    @Galmoori Pƙed 2 lety +21

    Lets do the hidden gems of the ukrainian armor development while we’re at it :)

    • @superwout
      @superwout Pƙed 2 lety +5

      Amen. The best protected MBT in history, the revolutionary 2T Stalker, the Ukranian Merkava, ...., just wow

    • @raff257
      @raff257 Pƙed 2 lety +7

      T-84 yatagan basically a ukrainian T-80 with diesel engine,a 120mm gun, and a turret bustle autoloader.

    • @superwout
      @superwout Pƙed 2 lety

      @@raff257 yeah and the small crew compartment at the back, right? Earning the nickname Ukranian Merkava

    • @raff257
      @raff257 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@superwout no it's a different tank, the ukrainian merkava is obj 488,i'm talking about the t-84 yatagan

    • @superwout
      @superwout Pƙed 2 lety

      @@raff257 ow, should do my background checks again

  • @Peachyt82
    @Peachyt82 Pƙed 2 lety

    intresting video but im giving thumbs up soley for the little bit of music right at the end ov the video and im keeping my reasons to myself of why i like that tune so much lol.

  • @fleekrushyt9410
    @fleekrushyt9410 Pƙed 2 lety +8

    The bulat isnt the newest T-64 variation of ukraine. They have the T-64 BV 2017, which is an upgraded T-64BV. The Bulat is also produced, but there also some other variations. Just recently, they passed tests with an modernisation of the T-64BVK (czcams.com/video/ERexkGMaiXg/video.html).
    I hope you could also talk about all of ukraines BTR modernisations and BMP modernisations.

    • @marinodezelak1180
      @marinodezelak1180 Pƙed 2 lety +4

      I guess Ukraine is just trying to make the best out of what they got.

    • @the_burger
      @the_burger Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Noone cares about crappy ukrainian vehicles lol

    • @scandited2763
      @scandited2763 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@marinodezelak1180 That’s how it is, can confirm (except for APCs such as BTR-4)

    • @MikoyanGurevichMiG21
      @MikoyanGurevichMiG21 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      At least some factories means Ukraine can do something with their armor, however when it comes to the air they are hopeless.

    • @gaiofattos2
      @gaiofattos2 Pƙed rokem

      @@the_burger Yeah, Russian turrets tosses are way cooler.

  • @1joshjosh1
    @1joshjosh1 Pƙed 2 lety

    Nothing can go wrong-go.
    T-64 in the Congo.

  • @mikepette4422
    @mikepette4422 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    well I might just take you up on that AW offer. I recall the game was amazing at the start. Not sure how it is these days but this is a good chance I think.

    • @Aconcernedrifleman
      @Aconcernedrifleman Pƙed 2 lety +2

      It's mostly active overseas, but the PvE content is something you won't get anywhere else. It really just needs good marketing in the states, as it seems to do a very good job attracting WT and WoT players

    • @boymahina123
      @boymahina123 Pƙed 2 lety

      PvE is where it's at, and the grind is far faster than either WoT or WT

  • @maverick_gold2377
    @maverick_gold2377 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Hi I really enjoy your content

  • @CorporalAdrianShephard.
    @CorporalAdrianShephard. Pƙed 2 lety +1

    I hear HOI4 music.
    Nice!

  • @WarSecrets
    @WarSecrets Pƙed 2 lety

    Technically superior tank 😎

  • @old_guard2431
    @old_guard2431 Pƙed rokem +1

    Looks like Armored Warfare is making a comeback(?). It is the only tank game I played much several years ago, but seemed like it was dying. Which was a shame, as it seemed like the only one to escape the overpowered fake tank gimmicks of the more popular tank games. Good luck to Armored Warfare.

    • @LayronPK
      @LayronPK Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci

      It`s a russian propaganda game, i do not recommend spending your time on that.

  • @SlavaUkraini345
    @SlavaUkraini345 Pƙed 2 lety +8

    For you cursed by design series. Would it be possible to do one on the M1 TTB. That tank is one of my favorites ever. It would be interesting to see how you would take it.

  • @homefront1999
    @homefront1999 Pƙed 2 lety

    Hey Cone. Could you take a look at the Panzer IX & X tanks? It might just be the silhouettes of the tanks. But would love if you could try to guess the effectiveness of them.

    • @ConeOfArc
      @ConeOfArc  Pƙed 2 lety

      I've already covered those in a previous video.

  • @jammygamer8961
    @jammygamer8961 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    T-64 go let's

  • @Orca19904
    @Orca19904 Pƙed 2 lety +39

    I would dare say this tank is anything but a "benchwarmer" now, as it has seen intense combat on both sides of the current invasion of Ukraine, being used by both the Ukrainian and Russian armies with only the paint schemes and certain now-infamous markings being the only way to distinguish them.

    • @nsort3009
      @nsort3009 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      The T-64 was withdrawn from service with Russia. It's đŸ‡ș🇩 only now.

    • @wonkagaming8750
      @wonkagaming8750 Pƙed 2 lety +11

      @@nsort3009 he means DPR and LPR

    • @cornetinu4203
      @cornetinu4203 Pƙed 2 lety +2

      @@wonkagaming8750 nah. They captured a T-64BV near Kharkov, the Russians themselves are using them

    • @wonkagaming8750
      @wonkagaming8750 Pƙed 2 lety +2

      @@cornetinu4203 captured T 64s are being given to the DPR and LPR, but the russian dont use T 64

    • @cornetinu4203
      @cornetinu4203 Pƙed 2 lety +7

      @@wonkagaming8750 Nah. They do use it. I literally told you where, the separatists only operate in the southeast of the country

  • @TheReal_Mrlunk
    @TheReal_Mrlunk Pƙed 2 lety

    BACKPEDDELING!

  • @monsieurduquack5440
    @monsieurduquack5440 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    1:32
    Is that the War Museum in Ottawa?

    • @thelonestranger1474
      @thelonestranger1474 Pƙed 2 lety

      It’s the American Heritage Museum in Hudson, Massachusetts. Fantastic place!

  • @Mimirsand
    @Mimirsand Pƙed 2 lety

    Coneofarc can you please do a cursed by design video about the yugoslavian sherman with a 122mm gun? No one really knows this tank used to exist

  • @andersonklein3587
    @andersonklein3587 Pƙed rokem +1

    The similarities between the T80 and the M1A1 Abrams should be a tip that when the soviets tried to build something up to the same standards as NATO, it didn't go well because their economy and high tech industries were weak. Thus the T90 being yet another refresh of the T72, which is another refresh of the T62, which is a direct upgrade from the T55... The T64 and T80 are great tanks, just aren't backed by a strong economy that can make them reliable enough. They were the soviet attempts at quality over quantity for elite forces, which went against their natural advantages and doctrines.

    • @definitelyfrank9341
      @definitelyfrank9341 Pƙed rokem +1

      You have no idea what you're talking about. What do you mean the T-80 was the Soviets' attempt to build a tank to match the Abrams? T-80 entered service several years before Abrams even entered the production phase.
      T-72 isn't even in the slightest bit related to the T-62; the only thing it has in common with it is the similar doctrine it was designed around.
      T-80 was never meant to be USSR's primary tank. It was meant to serve kind of as a force multiplier. Similar to how the US Navy consists of a high-low mix of ships.
      T-90 is basically a T-64 without the reliability issues and over-complex design.

    • @christian9125abd
      @christian9125abd Pƙed 3 měsĂ­ci

      @@definitelyfrank9341 The T-90 is basically the new workhorse of the russian/soviet army and a modernisation of the T-72 and the T-80 is the russian/soviet premium tank and used for special units.

  • @Independentfellow
    @Independentfellow Pƙed rokem

    Evil Genie: oh you want to see the t-64 and t-72 go head to head in a war? 
 DONE!” 😈 February 2022