Baseball Time Traveler 1965 BRAWL AT THE BAY Marichal Roseboro Mays Koufax
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- We travel back to August 1965 at Candlestick Park. The Dodgers and Giants are in the midst of another tense pennant race. What happened in the third inning had never been seen before or since. Juan Marichal attacked John Roseboro with a bat and a 14-minute brawl between the teams ensued. We review the game and show some cards! Thanks for watching.
August 22, 1965....the day before my 5th birthday; the day I became a San Francisco Giants fan for life! I remember it clearly on teevee and then many times on the news! As a kid, I wouldn't have it any other way, just to taunt the ocean of blue fools that I lived amongst in SoCal! Marichal was always my favorite player and was crushed that he ended his career in blue, but very satisfied that he and Roseboro were able to become friends. Very kind of Roseboro to support Marichal's HOF chances. I believe Marichal was deeply touched to be able to deliver the eulogy for his friend, John Roseboro. The on-field incident is still remembered for what could happen at the height of tensions; the great friendship afterwards showed that both sides were able to learn and grow as human beings. RIP, John Roseboro.
Well said, Christopher. Thanks for watching and providing a wonderful comment. You are the only commenter who also watched the game. Yes, it is a day from our young childhood that is etched in our memories. And the special friendship that developed between those two men is what counts in the long run.
the day after my 5th birthday.🎁 you were into baseball way before me. became a Yankee fan in ‘69. (although I did beg my Dad to take me to bat day in ‘67 at Yankee Stadium. just wanted the bat.😀).
Great story, Michael! Thanks for watching and sharing your early baseball experiences. Hope you got the bat and kept it!
A lot of concentration & recall for a 5 year old !
Marichal also was my favorite player even though both McCovey & Mays were on the SF Giants.
Ill never forget the 16 inning shutout he pitched against Warren Spahn,1-0.Probably the greatest pitching exhibiton of all time!
Thanks for watching and for the great comment, Buck. Absolutely agree with you. What a classic duel in July 1963. Marichal threw 227 pitches. Warren Spahn was 42 and went toe to toe with the 25-year-old Marichal. Willie Mays ends it with a walk off home run. CLASSIC. I may have to do a video on that game some time down the road!
That would be great!
I enjoyed the video, thanks😊
Hi Bob! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. Really appreciate it and glad you enjoyed the video. More to come.
Wow! Excellent job! Very classy coverage of this event. Watched it live, age 9 years old. Big Dodger fan at the time!! Favorite player: Maury Wills.⚾⚾⚾⚾
Hi Bruce! Thanks for watching the video. You and I were watching the game at the same time, same channel (assuming you were in the LA area listening to Vin Scully). Really appreciate the kind comment. This was a story I had to tell. Glad it ended with a wonderful friendship. Thanks again.
Oh, excellent! Most likely channel 11 in the L. A. area (Orange County/Garden Grove) on our black and white T. V. I also was heavily into baseball cards as I still am, so your use of cards from the era resonates! When Koufax retired in '66 and they traded Wills to Pittsburg, adios to the Dodgers and hello Baltimore Orioles for the next 20 years. But those Dodgers were my team from '64-'67. Keep those videos coming...👍👍👍👍
Bruce, yes KTTV Channel 11 was the station. Black and white. Sunny afternoon in Pasadena as I watched with my grandfather. Have a great weekend!
I just read the Sandy Koufax biography by Jane Leavy and this incident was detailed. You did a great job of capturing the historical context and intricacies. I love you content!
Hello Hammer! Thanks for watching and for taking the time to post a comment. Really appreciate the kind words. Also relieved I provided an accurate account. I try hard to research reliable sources. I'd like to read the Koufax biography (after I finish Stan Musial An American Life)! Keep up the great work on your channel. You bring it to another level.
I remember see this in the paper and seeing in the pictures. Wow unbelievable the rivalry of these teams.
Hi JC! Thanks for watching. Yes, it was an intense rivalry. I watched this game with my grandfather. Will never forget it.
Marichal isn't mentioned enough in greatest pitcher conversations. His 2.89 ERA ranks only behind Whitey Ford, Koufax, Seaver, and Palmer (and Kershaw). His W/L% of 63.1 is near the top, and he pitched 244 complete games. He won 20+ games 4 years in a row, and 6 times total. Also won 18 games twice.
Hi Ron! Thanks for watching. Great comment. I agree, Marichal is very underappreciated in baseball history and in the hobby. He seems to fall, unfairly, in a similar category as Ferguson Jenkins (even Jim Palmer is underappreciated IMO). Possible reasons may be the Roseboro incident and the fact the Giants were unable to win any pennants after 1962. He was also overshadowed by Koufax and Gibson who were dominating and winning World Series during Marichal's peak years. I am glad, in the end, with Roseboro's influence, Marichal entered the HOF.
I saw him lose a 14 inning game to the Mets,1-0 on a Tommie Agee home run in August 1969 near the midnight hour.I had work the next day,but who cares about sleep when you're 19.
Dude awesome absolutely awesome rendition, I too am a Wille Mays lifelong giants fan , spend some time in the nose bleed section of candlestick park as a little leaguer watching Mays , Cepada , the Alou brothers really enjoyed this thank you !!! ie my grandfather was a huge Giants fan had a speaker in their dining room to hear the games , also he was a tea assjole , never made it to any of my baseball games and I as a pitcher made the local newspaper on several occasions
Thanks for watching and for posting a very kind comment, Jaz Rid! Another member of the Say Hey Kid fan club. Thanks for sharing a wonderful story about your experiences as a little leaguer and with your grandfather. Hope you kept your press clippings!
I did have to remind my older brother regularly, he sent me the vid
Well done. I was 12 years old in SF and listening on the radio. This not only cost the Giants the pennant, but probably cost Marichal the Cy Young, as he missed two games with the suspension, and was ineffective his next 2-3 starts. The Giants finished two games out. Interesting that Mays was batting fourth and McCovey third. Usually, it was the other way around.
Thanks for watching, and thanks for a great comment. Absolutely agree. The loss of Marichal cost the Giants the pennant. I would only guess the switch in the batting order may have had to do with Koufax being a lefty. In the series, Mays batted 3rd and McCovey cleanup on Thursday/Friday against Drysdale/Reed both RHers. Saturday, McCovey 2nd/Mays 3rd/Hart cleanup against lefty Osteen. More Giants games will be covered in future videos. Thanks again.
I was surprised that Felipe Alou was not in right field. According to the 1966 Willie Mays biography, he says McCovey walked ahead of the homerun, and the final score was 4-2. I was at the first playoff game on Oct 1, 1962 when the Giants beat the Dodgers and Koufax 8-0 and Mays hit two home runs. And Marichal is all-time favorite Giants pitcher. He was a joy to watch.@@BaseballTimeTraveler
What a thrill for you to witness Koufax and Mays in the playoff game. Yes, Marichal always fascinated me with the high kick. Great pitcher.
Hey Rob! I really love how you take us back in time to the events leading up to the game. Just a great story! And that 1965 Topps Willie McCovey is my favorite all-time card of his.
Hi Dan! Thanks for watching and taking the time to post a comment. Really appreciate your support. Willie McCovey was one of my favorite players. I have a modest run of his '60's cards including his RC. The '65 Topps is a beauty! Keep up the great work on your channel. Your collection blows me away!
This is a great video. Thank you for doing this. I was 8 years old at the time and like you a big Giants fan and Willie Mays was also my childhood hero. I remember this game as well. You must have lived in Southern California because this game wasn't on TV in the bay area. I listened to it on the radio.. It took years for me to find out Roseboros part in all this. What a time!
Hi Sam! Thanks for watching and for your great comment. You are correct. I was in Pasadena, and we watched on the local LA station. Vin Scully on the call. Eighteen days later, I listened to Sandy's perfect game against the Cubs on the radio (no TV anywhere for that Thursday night game in LA). Like you, I was unaware of the details on the buildup to the incident, but very glad the friendship developed, and the story ended on a good note. Have a great rest of your week.
I have read about this infamous incident. Thanks for sharing from your perspective and tying the cards to it. Glad that every thing worked out in the end.
Hi Ken! Thanks for watching and commenting. Yes, an infamous incident that ended up with a lifelong friendship. It was quite a thing to witness, and as it turns out it ended up changing baseball. I think MLB may even have a rule about bats. If you are going to fight, drop the bat.
The only other ballpark I ever been in besides Atlanta Fulton, Turner Field was Candlestick park at age of 10. I was on summer vacation from Atlanta. The old Candlestick where the outfield was open so that you could see the bay. Gaylord Perry was starting for the giants, can't remember who they played. Great memories.
Hi Darryl! Thanks for watching and for the story about your vacation trip. Here is a link that shows the Giants schedule for the 1965 season. If you can recall what month you vacationed in SF, you may be able to narrow down what game you attended. What a thrill for you to watch a future Hall of Fame pitcher throw at Candlestick.
www.baseball-reference.com/teams/SFG/1965-schedule-scores.shtml
@@BaseballTimeTraveler Thanks, if I'm not mistaken it was 1968.
Sorry, Darryl, I thought you were referring to 1965. Here is the link for 1968. Hope you can track it down.
www.baseball-reference.com/teams/SFG/1968-schedule-scores.shtml
@@BaseballTimeTraveler thank you.
Well Done!
Thanks for watching and thanks for the kind comment, Jeffrey! Glad you enjoyed. Comments like yours keep me going. The ‘65 Series is on deck. Stay tuned and have a great week ahead.
Great breakdown of that event. I was born in 1965, so only heard references to it, but never got a full account. Thanks.
Thanks for watching and posting a comment, Johny! It was a memorable yet infamous event in baseball history. Glad it ended in reconciliation and friendship. Forever changed baseball rules too.
Great video. I remember this. As a Mets fan I actually hated these teams because they always beat up on my Mets!
Thanks for watching and commenting, Charles! Really appreciate it. Those were a few tough years for the Mets. As a Giants fan at the time, I suffered through many second-place finishes. At least you won in '69! Down the road I will be doing a video on the Miracle Mets.
Thanks Rob for getting into the details of this infamous event-- great presentation and cards! Would have been awesome listening to your grandpa's stories.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! Spending time with my grandfather in the mid-sixties was priceless. As a Giants fan, he told me about John McGraw, Carl Hubbell, Mel Ott and others. I had no access to "pre-war" cards back then, but I could visualize the players from old photos in library books. My dad was a Dodgers fan, so we had some fun poking jabs amongst the three of us during those fierce pennant races in the sixties. Keep up the great work on your channel. Your collection and presentations are stunning!
What a wild one! My favorite of these videos you’ve done so far. If I could ever go back in time to watch a baseball game it would be a mid-sixties game between these two teams with Koufax vs Marichal. But that is not the one. Would have been really ugly to witness that in person. Good for Wille being the peace maker. Roseboro really a great human being for pulling for Marichal HOF like that. That’s how things used to be: Forgiveness, redemption, and then friendship. Thanks for sharing Rob!
Hi CK! Thanks for watching and commenting. Glad you enjoyed the video. Really appreciate it. Yes, a wild one. Koufax and Marichal did have some classic duels, but this game was obviously different. A horrific event in baseball history, but the reconciliation made for a good ending to the story. And, keep up the great work on your channel!
Very well done, thank you so much.
Thanks for watching, Edward. I really appreciate the kind comment. I'll be posting some videos on Lou Gehrig in the next few days. Stay tuned.
I do remember this! Along with Gaylord Perry pitching at the Houston Colt 45s (outdoors you know). When a foul ball hit the press box window and left a big greasy smudge he was asked about it after the game. "Musta hit one of them Texas sized mosquitos on the way up." Yes, it was a time!
Hi Warren! Thanks for watching. Good old Gaylord! Classic. Thanks for sharing that story. Those mosquitos sure were big back then.
Great video! Maybe it was not intended to be accurate but the photo of Candlestick Park at 3:10 with the graphics of the date, place and attendance (300 more than capacity) actually shows a game between the Giants and the Cincinnati Reds. You can see the Reds' distinctive sleeveless unis and the red color as well as some empty seats.
Thanks for watching, Timothy. I appreciate your attention to detail. Please understand, I am just an old guy who tries to make a few videos that are easy to watch and hopefully informative to the audience. There is not a big supply of 1960's photos of Candlestick to choose from off the internet. I am not a professional. And while I try my best to provide accuracy of content and accurate photos when I can find them, sometimes I make a typo or photo mistake or have no choice but to use a "representative" photo giving the viewer a general sense big picture of what Candlestick may have looked in August 1965. There was no intent to mislead anyone. Hope that addresses your concerns. Thanks again.
@@BaseballTimeTraveler Absolutely understood. No criticism intended. Again, love your video. Keep up the great work!
Hi Timothy! Thanks for the kind reply. I really appreciate it. I'll do my best to keep providing good content for you and the others in the collector community. Have a great weekend.
Rob - outstanding 👏. I really enjoyed this, the personal & historical realities - your grandfather's longevity & memories.
The cards & photos & and dialogue ❤️ ✨️.
Especially like the ending 🙏 and friendship that came from this incident.
Appreciate your channel and content 🙂
Hi Craig! Thanks very much for watching and taking the time to comment. Really appreciate the kind words. Yes, this was a story with a difficult beginning but a good ending. My time with my grandfather, priceless. And of course, I watched and attended many games with my dad (priceless). Keep up the great work on your channel! You are making some great content, and your cards are outstanding!
This was a nice presentation much appreciated. The sad thing is today's brawls are more violent than back in the 60's where respect was king.
Thanks very much for watching and for your astute comment. Really appreciate it. You are correct. Today it seems like the brawls are violent and almost intended to please the audience as entertainment. Frankly, to me, much of today's sports have evolved into "presentations" with over the top with noise, flash and bang and in your face. Too many athletes are into showing the other players up. You never saw Mickey Mantle or Willie Mays pound their chests or walk halfway to first admiring their home run. Mickey said he never wanted to show up the pitcher, As you said in your comment, respect was king. Thanks again and have a great week ahead.
But how common are brawls in baseball these days? I ask because I haven’t followed baseball in many years.😊
Good question. But I'm like you. Have not followed the game since the steroid era.
Well done
Hi Mick! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. Really appreciate it. Stay tuned for a new video I'll be posting soon.
The giants of the sixties were a talent laden lineup.The thing that kept them from winning is bad managers,and management.The team was in constant turmoil.Should hAVE WON AT LEAST FIVE PENNANTS WITH THAT TEAM.
Thanks for watching and for your astute comment. Totally agree. Having two future HOF pitchers, Willie Mays, Willie McCovey, Cepeda, the Alou brothers, Jim Ray Hart, etc., no excuse. The Dodgers had two HOFers and a group of singles hitters. But the Dodgers knew how to play to win. Thanks again!
@@BaseballTimeTraveler We qere huge Giant fans,and every uyear they would look like champs,but blow it in the end.
...was unaware that Dick Bertell played for the Giants...came up through the Cubs farm system & played at Wrigley for several years...
...grew up in Chicago subaurbs and played for Iowa State in Ames where he was All-Big 7 & All-American if I remember correctly...was on 3rd-place CWS team in '57 or '58...
Thanks for watching and for providing the great background information on Dick Bertell. Coincidentally, Bertell was traded with Len Gabrielson to the Giants in late May 1965 for Harvey Kuenn, Ed Bailey and Bob Hendley. As you may recall, Hendley lost to Sandy Koufax in the perfect game 18 days after the Roseboro Marichal incident, and Harvey Kuenn was the final out in the perfect game! As it turned out, Bertell was traded back to the Cubs in 1967 but ended up retiring after seeing limited playing time.
Hi Rob, I had this on my watch list waiting until I had a little bit of time to sit and watch. I usually listen to some of the longer videos while I am walking and then look down from time to time when cards are shown. Your videos have so much imagery that I would rather watch while I am at home.
I really enjoyed this video. I like that you set the stage with what was going on in Marachal's country and Roseboro's community. The 60s had moments of unrest and unfortunately both men were impacted by it. How special that you have the memory of watching the game with your grandparents. It is amazing how much baseball history your grandfather was able to experience.
My favorite part was the ending when Marachal and Roseboro became friendly later on in their lives. How special that Marachal's former nemesis "went to bat" for him and help get him in the HOF.
I like that you show the actual cards when you're going through your presentation. It personalizes the video knowing the players who were part of this event are a treasured part of your collection.
Thanks for walking us through this historical moment and sharing your experience.
Have a great rest of the weekend.
Hi Terry! Can't thank you enough for the kind, thoughtful and helpful comments. I really appreciate the feedback. You indicated you liked seeing the cards throughout the video. In future videos I will do my best to show the cards during the course of the story. This event was a moment frozen in time for me. It is amazing how certain instances in our lives remain so vivid in our memory. Sharing that time. along with many others, with my grandfather was priceless. My grandmother fed us a great Sunday brunch before the game and took good care of us as the game wore on. Thanks for your continuing support and appreciation of my amateur videos. And keep up the HOF level work on your channel. I look forward to every episode. Hope to meet you someday soon, my friend.
@@BaseballTimeTraveler Hi Rob, you’re welcome, my friend. I meant that I liked that you show the cards as part of the video rather than just having them on the screen. Your videos are very well done. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
Just found your channel.. It's GREAT ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐....I remember that incident as if it happened today...#27 is class....That was purely an anomalous happening..I remember he finished 22-13...What days they were !... Thanks again for your great channel...Subscribed ⭐✨✨⭐⭐⭐✨✨⭐⭐
Do you recall any of Vin Scully's real time reaction as he was calling the play by play announcing on KTTV channel 11? He was always good at describing the unexpected so that the viewer knew best to what was happening.
Thanks for watching, Jim. Great comment. I also can visualize the day even though almost 59 years have passed. Really appreciate your support. More to come.
Terry! No apology. I appreciate your expertise. I have been trying to figure out what might be most visually appealing in the videos. In my short time on YT, it appears some of the audience likes the history/story, some like the cards. Some like both. Your comment validated my impression that I could please more viewers by showing the cards (like you do) during the course of the narrative. Always trying to improve, and you helped me a lot. Now I just have to execute! Have a great week ahead.
The Dominican Dandy...master of that forgotten offering..the screwball!
You are so correct, Anthony. A great pitcher with a great array of pitches, including the screwball.
Fantastic presentation Rob. It was awesome learning about this & ultimately how there was reconciliation & friendship. Thank you for sharing this story.
Hi Doug! Thanks for watching. Really appreciate your comments. Yes, a good ending to a story and incident I will always remember. The reconciliation was a testament to the character of both men. Keep up the great work on your channel!
Glad you shared this story, I never have heard about it. Great job Rob. 14 minutes!
Hi Jason! Thanks for watching and taking the time to post a comment. Glad you liked this story. I enjoyed doing the research, and the personal connection about watching this game with my grandfather made this a special project. So many great stories to tell. Already working on the next one.
I really like this story, Rob! Great presentation.
Hi Karen! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. Really appreciate the kind words and your support of the channel. More to come.
well done! impressive card collection!
Thanks very much for watching, commenting and subscribing! Really appreciate your kind words and support.
Great video Rob. Thanks for the trip back in time. I remember the incident but not where I was during the game.
Hi Tony! As always, thanks for watching and commenting. Really appreciate it. I thought you might have attended the game! I remember that day like it was yesterday. Glad the story ended with a reconciliation and deep friendship.
Good stuff. I was a 9 y.o. Giants fan at the time. Loved your baseball cards. Great vintage pics of Candlestick before it was enclosed.
Hi Mark! Thanks for watching. Really appreciate you taking the time to comment. We are of the same vintage. As a Giants fan then, you and I both suffered through some painful pennant races. Some classic baseball to follow in the '60's, and with it, some wonderful memories too!
Just adding to my previous comment. My mom was/is a diehard Giants fan. Her favorite player was Willie, and passed on her 1955 Bowman Mays. I had it graded, SGC 1, love the card!
Kevin, your mom has passed a treasure on to you! Needless to say, take good care of that card. Willie gave us all a lot of thrills. Tell your mom, Go Giants, for me!
Nice cards bro
Thanks for watching, LQC! Really appreciate the comment. Glad you liked the cards. Feel fortunate to have them in my modest collection. Lots of memories.
Great video Rob! Love the stories and I love the 65 Koufax card. That is a card on my list to purchase.
Hi Jason! Thanks for watching. Really appreciate you taking the time to comment. Thanks for the kind words. Hope you get the '65 Koufax soon so you can show it off on your channel! Keep up the great work!!
Great video, great channel. Like your grandfather, I'm old enough to have seen major league baseball at the Polo Grounds, but it was the Mets
Thanks very much for watching and taking the time to post a kind comment. Really appreciate it. Would sure have liked to watched a game at the Polo Grounds, Mets or NYG! I did a video on the '54 Series and Willie's catch. What a beautiful ballpark, at least from the old photos. Have a great week ahead.
Hey Rob, great presentation! I remember it well; happened the day before my 12th birthday (which I share with Davenport!). BTW, you must have a FANTASTIC card collection!
Hi Mark! Thanks for sharing your experience. Really appreciate it and thank you for your comment. It is amazing how a moment like that is etched forever in our memories. Jimmy Davenport was a solid ballplayer and underappreciated in the hobby. I'm glad the relationship between John and Juan ended happily. Have a great weekend.
Hello Rob! This was a fantastic presentation! The cards and storytelling all went so well together with the historic photos. I think it's amazing how such a traumatic event like that ended up creating a beautiful friendship afterwards. Again, great job on this!
Hi Eric! Thanks so much for watching and posting such a kind comment. I'm always trying to improve. Still technologically challenged but I'm going to keep going! This was a great story with a happy ending. Really appreciate your support. And keep posting your fun and informative videos! I enjoy your channel.
My older brother started collecting baseball cards in 1961 and pretty much through 64. Then I took over but, apparently not very well because, I have 0 1965 cards??? It’s nice to see this incident through the cards. Nice job!
Thanks very much for watching, commenting AND subscribing. I really appreciate your comment. What a great story! I hope you still have all those cards. You must have a spectacular collection. A great era for baseball!
Really enjoyed your presentation of what happened that game, Rob. Funny that you were worried about Willie the most during the fracas, I probably would have been too. Poor Tito Fuentes, new to the league and probably didn’t know what to do! Shame that it happened but it turned into a real great story of forgiveness and advocacy for a friend that was once an enemy. John Roseboro must have been a great guy. I really like his 65 Topps card. Thanks for sharing it all and putting this together. I’m happy to hear it from someone who experienced it and I’m also happy you got to watch it with your grandfather.
Hugo, can't thank you enough for the nice and thoughtful comment. You captured the essence of the story so well. It was a moment in time I will not forget, especially since I shared it with my grandfather. Keep up the great work on your channel. I really enjoy watching you deliver some wonderful content.
Fantastic presentation, Rob. As usual, I was not aware of this incident. You did a great job conveying the details. This is one of the reasons I am so glad I accidentally found your channel. Great cards. Thanks for your work on this one. I’m glad it had a good ending, even years later.
Hi Ken! Thanks for watching and for the kind comments. Really appreciate it. I'm glad you enjoyed the video. It was a good ending to a story that needed to be told. That incident made quite an impression on me as a ten-year-old, and I was very happy to see that the two men eventually became good friends. Shows the character of both of them in their ability to forgive.
Great Vlog capturing the environment. Just an idea - not a game but a season, if you could ever profile 1968. - Gibson, McLain, Drysdale, complete games, shutouts, ERA, innings pitched, back-to-back no-hitter, All Star game. Pitchers dominated the game like no other year.
Thanks very much for watching, and thanks for an absolutely great suggestion! Really appreciate the kind comment, and I will start initial prep for the "Year of the Pitcher". 1968 was a pivotal year historically in so many ways. I watched many of those key games and tracked McClain as he went for 30 and Drysdale with his shutout streak. And, of course, Gibson blowing away hitters and his 1.12. So much great content to cover. Thanks again.
@@BaseballTimeTraveler Great - many of today's pitchers throw high 90's and might be considered better than ever, but what a contrast in terms of results & stats, 1968 compared to 2023. I am most impressed with 37 pitchers with 10 or more complete games in 1968 (2 pitchers had 3 complete games to lead the league in 2023). And in 2023 Garrett Cole & Framber Valdez led the majors with 2 shutouts, in 1968 65 pitchers had 2 or more shutouts. WOW - have fun.
@@jacksonj3082 Thanks for the additional research and analysis. Sorry for my delayed reply to your solid analysis of 1968 versus 2023 pitching stats. Incredible the differences in over 50 years. Different game now. I need to get to work on that Year of the Pitcher video!!
Awesome presentation! Thanks. I grew up near LA and was a life long Dodgers and Angels fan. I saw that game too on TV and remember it like it was yesterday. Now I live in NorCal pull for the home team Giants too. So if any teams from California wins, I'm happy. Thanks and I'll subscribe to your channel.
Hi Joseph! Thanks very much for watching the video and providing your story. Wow, you are the first viewer to have seen the game live. Like you, it is a memory etched like it was yesterday. Glad you are cheering for SF and LA now. I was a die-hard vintage Giants/Willie Mays fan back then, but I have come to like the vintage Dodgers as well. So much great history! Thanks very much for subscribing. Stay tuned for more. Next up is the '67 World Series in a few days.
@@BaseballTimeTraveler . I look forward to your next presentation. Thnx
That was a great recap, Rob. I've never met anyone who saw that game on TV. I would see Marichal get into another fight with the Dodgers in 1971 when he hit Bill Buckner with a pitch. Bill Singer hit Willie Mays with a pitch. It was just a brutal night. Those two teams have just never really gotten along.
It's nice though they ended up friends and that Marichal read the eulogy at Roseboro's service. Loved hearing this story and nice cards too. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching, Rick. Yes, watching that game as a ten-year-old left an indelible memory. Was not aware of the '71 fight. That feud sure goes long and deep. Happy ending made it a good story to tell. Really appreciate you taking the time to comment. Keep up the great work on your channel. I enjoy your videos.
Rob When i was doing my research on Johnny Roseboro I found out about this incident. Terrible when someone would use a bat as an actual weapon. Makes me think a little differently about Marichal after this. Probably just the heat of the rivalry and game building up, but still zero excuses. Glad that they were able to meet in the middle after the whole thing. Enjoyed as always and great cards of the players.
Hi Steve! Thanks for watching and commenting. No question, the bat usage was a line that should have never been crossed. I never really was a Marichal guy after that. Even as a ten-year-old, I felt he should have been suspended for the rest of the season. I only have his '64, '65 and '66 cards because of SF team sets when I collected as a kid, but I'm not interested in his other cards. I am glad he and Roseboro reconciled, but that incident took the luster off for me. I always appreciate your comments and support of my efforts. Keep up the great work on your channel. The season is almost here.
Well done. I wondered why it took so long for Marichal to get into the HOF. Truthfully, I was not aware of this event so thank you for passing it on.
Hi Drew! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. Yes, Marichal's story could have ended badly, but Roseboro came forward on his behalf. A really nice ending to a story that started horribly on that August afternoon in Candlestick. A memory I will always carry. Really appreciate your support. Keep up the great work on your channel! Always enjoy seeing your bios of the players. Great content and great cards too!
In the end, I suspect that both men were of great character or they would never have become friends.@@BaseballTimeTraveler
I grew up in Orange County So. Cal and was a rabid Dodger fan. Saw this game on TV (all Dodger/Giant games in Candlestick Park were televised). It was some bruhaha. The Giants and Dodgers really hated each other and had quite a rivalry going. My favorite memory of those Dodgers days were when Koufax pitched a perfect game against the Cubs, which I listened to over the radio.
Hi Daniel! Thanks for watching and posting a great comment. Absolutely, a bruhaha. Glad the story ended on a wonderful note. And Sandy's perfect game was only 18 days later. I also listened on the radio to Vin Scully's' perfect call of the perfect game. A memory of a lifetime. Have a great week ahead.
@@BaseballTimeTraveler Funny story about that Koufax perfect game. I had very strict parents and they constantly restricted me. This go around I was restricted from listening to Dodger games for like 2 weeks. Well, the night of the perfect game, my parents took me to a drive in movie, a double James Bond. I feigned boredom and said I'm climbing in the back of the station wagon to sleep. What my parents didn't realize was that I had my transistor radio and earplug tuned to the Dodger game. When Koufax struck out Kris Krug, Joey Amalfitano and then Harvey Kuenn for the perfect game, I went absolutely nuts. A huge rebel yell and bouncing up and down in the back of that station wagon, my mom about had a heart attack. I was so busted, and got 2 more weeks restriction, but I didn't care. Koufax gave me a memory of a lifetime, one I still remember almost 60 years later. I had just turned 10 a week before that. Thanks time traveler. We have so few of those any more.
Daniel, what a great story! Sounds like you wrote that for a tv script. You and I had the thrill of listening to such an iconic game, both of us ten years old at the time. Yes, a memory of a lifetime. Sorry you got busted LOL, but as you say, it was worth it! Thanks for sharing a very special moment.
Wow! This news so cool! Amazing story to go along with with GREAT cards! Some big names here for sure! 65 Topps are so good looking!! Have you heard of PsychedonCards-Tony? He has a great channel with a 1965 Topps set showcase of each player! I like to send him my 65 Topps Set update… like I have the Billy Williams and the Cubs team card….thats it😁!! I did just pickup 2 more Cubbies for that team set, but in think you would like Tony! Thanks for sharing Rob!! WOW that was a surprise ending!
Hi Jason! Thanks for watching and for your comment. I do know Tony. We have been in contact exchanging stories related to the Giants. He does have a great channel and collection. Not sure if you watched it, but I did a video on Sandy Koufax's perfect game against your Cubs. You can see plenty of Cubs cards from the '65 set. I always appreciate your support. Keep up the great work on your channel!!
Wow Rob , I love your content. Top shelf stuff. We moved from the Bay Area in 65 to Mass. I didn't get to see the game but watched the battle on the news. We were shocked even though we did not like the Dodgers . Thank you & keep up the great videos.
Hi Mike! Thanks for watching and for taking the time to post a comment. Really appreciate your kind words and support. The Brawl obviously etched in your memory as well! The fact the story ended on a good note made it special. Their friendship that developed over the decades is a true reflection of their character.
Rob it was so clever to set up your backdrop with the stadium and cards on your screen and then show the cards in the foreground - very effective!
Thanks very much, Alex. I have such limited technological skills I try different ways to display the cards. I really appreciate the kind comment. Always trying to improve. Take care.
thank you for this shocking crazy baseball story,but in the end a story of forgiveness and friendship. your videos are a must see, and even more importantly a time capsule back in time. an interesting class in the classroom called CZcams sports card collectors. You're one of the best out there rob! . see you in Cleveland my friend.. health and happiness...Jonathan
Thanks for the very kind comments, Jonathan. Having grown up seeing or listening to a lot of classic baseball in the 60's, I want to recall the history as best I can for the hobby community. Through photos, stories and personal recollections (when applicable) I hope to provide history lessons and some fun along the way. Really looking forward to meeting you in July! Take care, my friend.
News of the brawl was put on the Shea Stadium message board.Mets' pitcher Tug McGraw 's reaction upon reading it while he was pitching that day:"It just went in one eye and out the other."
Hi Tom! Thanks for watching. Great comment. Great quote by McGraw! Here is a link to the broadcast by Bob Murphy referring to the message board. In case you had not seen this, thought you might enjoy.
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Another great historic game captured by the Baseball Time Traveler. I had never heard this story before. I'm glad I took the time to listen. Nice that you got to watch this with your grandfather. You showed some nice cards. I was wondering, do you pick these up to tell the story or are they part of a childhood collection? Nice editing and video props.
Hi Daniel! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. Really appreciate it. I was blessed to enjoy some games with my grandfather, and of course, I watched or attended many games with my dad. This game certainly stood out, especially as a ten-year-old watching. I wish I had kept my original cards. I collected in the 1964-67 timeframe but those cards are long gone. Since I re-entered the hobby last year, my collection now focuses on the players who participated in historic games or games that recorded a milestone in baseball history. There are so many games and stories to cover. I hope to keep delivering more games and stories. Thanks again!
Great response. I look forward to more great stories and beautiful cards.
Watched the game on NBC "Game of the Week" was my 9th birthday that very day...
Thanks for sharing the great story. What a birthday! I had turned ten in June. I remember, probably like you, the day and the game, like it was yesterday. I appreciate you watching and commenting. Take care.
Hey Rob! I subscribed to your channel today! I started collecting in 1970. So we definitely have a lot in common, really enjoyed the video and will go back and watch your earlier videos. Keep up the great work!!!
Hi Kevin! Thanks for watching, commenting AND subscribing. Really appreciate it. I am sure we share a lot of common memories of baseball back in the day! Hope you enjoy the other videos I have posted thus far in my short tenure on YT. Many more stories to come.
Aloha Rob ! Fun Show. Violent Show. That's Brutal using your bat. Glad it worked out in the end, like it should. But baseball does have those unwritten rules you have to abide by. Great production on this one Rob. Very cool. C ya !
Aloha Tom! Thanks for watching and commenting. Yes, the unwritten rules... Old school too. Really appreciate the kind words. Keep up the fun and informative content on your channel. Always enjoy watching your videos!!
Man, the 60s were wild. You had the tensions in the Dominican and LA as you mention, the recent assassination of JFK, a couple years away from the assassination of MLK Jr and RFK. Race riots in Detroit, Viet Nam war, the race to the moon. It's crazy to think about all that in just one decade.
Hi Gordon! Thanks for watching and commenting. Yes, the '60's were wild, and in so many ways influenced our world today. Cuban Missile Crisis, first Super Bowl, Woodstock, landmark Supreme Court decisions, and on and on.
I noticed at 12:24 in the presentation, here ,depicting the brawl, there's a Giant wearing #30, but it doesn't look like Orlando Cepeda...Cepeda was out because of injury, off and on during '65... Orlando Cepeda, the "Baby Bull" was a beloved Giant, an original SF rookie Giant in '58 when the Giants came to SF and Seal Stadium in '58 from new york, the national league MVP in '61, and an integral team member in the pennant winning year of '62..all this being said, how could the equipment guys let someone else don the revered #30 of Orlando!?....it was stated in the presentation, that losing Marichal to suspension really hurt the orange and black but not having Cepeda at his best in '65 hurt the giants even more...Cap Peterson in right right field on this infamous day?..no thank you, all respect to Cap, somehow get Cepeda's bat in this line up taped up, or whatever it would take, in right field or on first and move stretch McCovey to right or left field along with Jimmy Ray Hart, and, of course, the "Say Hey Kid" in center...think of the offense..Mays McCovey Cepeda Hart Matty and Felipe Alou..how could they trade Felipe in '64..but more importantly, the heartbreaking trade that sent the Baby Bull Cepeda to the Cardinals for Sadecki in '66...it was sure devastation for us St. Anne's fifth graders on that dreadful day in '66 when we learned of Orlando's departure..we had a Cepeda fan club and were required to paste his topps cards on our walls..I still got his '65 card with the scotch tape residue over the top..great shots of the 'stick and the 90 cent bleacher seats behind the right field fence along wjth the tattered Taryenton scoreboard that endured those vicious McCovey line drive homers...your '65 topps Mays looks like it should be graded a 10...beautiful card, man..
Hi Anthony! Thanks for watching and taking the time to deliver some great comments. After reading your observation about number 30, I researched the '65 Giants team roster and coaching staff for uniform numbers. I could find no player/coach other than The Baby Bull donning number 30. Orlando was pinch hitting in this series. He appeared the day before this game and had an RBI sac fly. While it may not appear to be Orlando from the photo, it likely is. Perhaps just at a bad angle at the time the photo was taken. I agree completely with you what a tremendous lineup the Giants had with all those great players. The Dodgers simply had too much pitching at that time. What a great story about your card from St Anne's school days. I lived in Pasadena and was surrounded by Dodger fans! I hung in there with my Giants but other than '62 we never got back to the WS during our younger years. Thanks again.
Final thought... The Giants "pulled out all the stops" in '65 and '66 to eclipse the Dodgers, bringing in future hall of fame members Warren Spahn and Duke Snider, albeit at the end of their illustrious careers, all to no avail..Dodgers had the pitching and played flawlessly until the '66 world series when they went down in four straight to the Orioles..
You are right about the Dodger pitching staff in '65-66. While lacking power, the Dodgers played hit and run type ball and had solid defense. I remember all those pennant races and watching the Dodgers win in '63 and '65, but as you point out, '66 did not go so well! My next video covers the '64 WS, so stay tuned.
Believe Herman Franks caught for the Brooklyn Dodgers in the 40's (maybe the 30's)
Thanks for watching and for your informative comment, Robert. You are correct. Franks had a relatively short playing career as a catcher with Brooklyn pre-WWII (1940-41), served three years in the Navy, returned and assumed player coach duties in the minor leagues. Then returned to the majors, and his last MLB playing was with the Athletics in 1947-48.
Juan Marichal, the "Dominican Dandy"..he could hit too...if given the chance in his day, he could be considered the '65 giants answer to Shohei Ohtani..
The 1966 Topps cards would have been more appropriate because they were displays of the 1965 season.
Hi Kent! Thanks for watching and for your comment. Your point is well taken about the 1966 cards. My intent with the video was to bring us back to 1965. The '65 Topps were the cards kids would have had in their shoe boxes and pockets when the game was played in August 1965. Really appreciate you pointing out the 1966 cards would have captured the 1965 season. Either way, it was a game many of us will always remember. Thanks again!
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I must say though the '65 cards were Topp's best design and my favorite during the 60's.
I was just an elementary school kid there that Sunday afternoon tuned to KTTV channel 11 when suddenly Marichal started whacking Roseboro. Scared me so much I couldn't pay attention to what Vin Scully was saying as he saw it. Can't remember a thing he said. Looking back that game should have been postponed. Sure wish some tape existed of Vinny's play by play announcing of the scene as it was happening. Or even Jerry Doggett calling it on radio. Would be fascinating and historically appreciated. Vinny knew how to keep his cool during the unexpected and report objectively sans any emotions (like when Rick Monday saved our flag in right center field from being burned by a couple of punks). Alas, only partial visuals of that Juan & Johnny brawl exist, no audio.
Great comment, Kent! We were watching the same KTTV Channel 11. I don't recall details of the commentary either. I do have a faint recollection of Vin noting Willie Mays acting as a mediator as the brawl kept re-igniting. It certainly was an infamous incident in baseball history and the fact there is limited documentation and recording, probably for the best. The available photos and snippet of video speaks a thousand words.
All the Dodgers infielders were switch hitters !!!
Thanks for watching, Luis. Great observation on the switch-hitting Dodger infield. Great defensive infield too!
@@BaseballTimeTraveler Thanks for your detailed analysis of the incident. At 12:24 I noticed Puerto Rican (like me) Orlando Cepeda (#30), who was not in the line up that afternoon because he had lost his 1st Baseman position to Willie McCovey due to his injuries, that was his last complete season as a Giant, being traded to the Cardinals at the start of the 1966 season. Again, Thank for the excellent video, Blessings from San Juan 🇵🇷 !!! ⚾
Thanks for the comment, Luis. Great to have you watching from San Juan! Yes, Orlando was injured and missed this game, but he had a Hall of Fame career, and won a World Series with the Cardinals in '67. Take care and God bless.
Does anyone remember when Mays slid into second, was abused by the opposition, and then Mays picked the guy up and gave him a body slam to the turf?
Never heard of any incident like that, Ralph.
@@BaseballTimeTraveler I heard about it listening to a Giants game.
I was at that game at Candlestick Park
Must have been a terrifying moment to witness at the stadium. On the other hand, watching Willie hit a home run and the Giants win was a thrill. Hope you still have the ticket and the program!
so roseboro caused the whole dam thing
Hi George. Thanks for watching. I guess some people may have that opinion. I'll only say that August 22, 1965, was a sad day for baseball, but in the end, a lifelong friendship developed.
Marichal should have been arrested and charged with assult.
Hi Ron. Thanks for watching. I suspect Marichal avoided prosecution due to the Roseboro admission which may have mitigated the situation. I think ballplayers and fans. then and now, recall that incident as horrible yet a life lesson to be learned. A line was crossed that day that hopefully will never be crossed again.
Marichal should have been arrested and banned from baseball for life.
Thanks for watching and for your comment. Many would agree with you. As a ten-year-old I thought he was going to jail after watching that attack. Marichal was totally wrong for what he did, but he may have avoided aggravated assault and battery charges because Roseboro admitted some wrongdoing in inciting the attack. I remember at the time, I thought he would have been suspended for the rest of the season at a minimum, but Marichal received a very small fine and very short suspension. I guess we'll never know why he was not charged with a crime. In the end, the friendship that developed afterwards was a good ending to what was one of the worst days in baseball history.
@@BaseballTimeTraveler Appreciate the reply, and all the best for your channel, keep up the good content. 👍
Thank you, Mi Ri. Really appreciate your kind words and support. Have a great rest of your week!
Marital should have been arrested and deported
I guess that could have been one solution, but a reconciliation and lifelong friendship never would have happened.