The Lost 1v1 Mode in League of Legends
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Magma Chamber is a name from League of Legends History that has a lot of sway in the community. Some may remember it as the name that eventually turned into the game mode Dominion. Others may remember 1v1 tournaments and other ranked game modes. Today I try to capture the entire history of one vs one ranked game modes and the desire for them from the lol playerbase - and how magma chamber was ripped away in a shocking way.
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Today we have a fun video talking about one of my favorite parts of League of Legends history - Magma chamber, and the desire for the LoL playerbase to be given a proper 1v1 ranked game mode and ladder. I hope you guys enjoy!
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I found solo mod it's called Eternal Return Black Survival.
Rito can't provide, others will step in. ( took a while but Korea stepped up)
Seing Alexich in the 1v1 footing. what a throw back. now he's doing 1v17
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Top laners dream ,only focuse on 1v1 not a team to carry
just play ad sion and end the game alone
@@doubled9645 i do it . doesnt work . They just need to send a tank to defend your push and then u cant do shit
@@xPumy09HD1 tell babus that
And then they pick Vayne in the 1v1 map.
@@xPumy09HD1 go full lethality sion for the solo bolo then
Considering there is a 1v1 mode in all stars every year i dont understand why riot doesnt just release it to the public.
i miss twisted treeline of all things the reason why i liked it so much was that there where 2 less players on each team that you didnt have to worry about and it also gave a break from constantly playing Summoners rift.
Play HOTS its better anyway :)
The support meta was just a easy way to get diamond season after season.
@@DennisProductions True however thats on riots end due to them neglecting the mode for to long hell remember how long the support meta lasted in SR with Funnel yi
@@ahrivixen5594 the broken as hell tower range, and the bush in tower range
@@alephviga645 true those where issues but it could have all been fixed if they reworked the map again and put actual resources into the mode. but ever since they reworked the mode the first time and let it die. they just flat out refused
rip twisted treeline, rip dominion, they were seriously my favourite game modes
Saaame. And served as a beautiful way to rotate out 'Rift fatigue' when you didn't have 'League fatigue' yet. So sad...
you could also say rip aram since the amount of rerolls and the option to pick champions that others rolled its hardly random anymore.
The only real aram was before riot makes it official.
Twisted Treeline was such a great map to chill in. All the fun of league without the stress and frustration of Summoners Rift.
Man I liked the twisted treeline map a lot.
Here in the Latin American servers only had them for a certain amount of hours due to how little players we had playing it but the playerbase was loyal, I made a lot of friends there.
RIP Dominion, gone but not forgotten
Did you mean hide and seek?
@@Alchimistje I haven’t thought about dominion hide and seek in years
It was also fun to play "catch the Teemo".
the king is gone but he's not forgotten
Over 8 year pass...and i still miss it. I like play more dominion then summoner rift xd
I freaking love the Documentaries you've been making, they're legit Netflix worthy. Keep it up brotha, you're killing it
Glacierrrrrrr!! My favourite two LoL CZcamsrs stan each other? A cross-over event unlike anything the world has ever seen!
Budget Exil
Watch Exil
Shut up kid
Netflix is an insult to this
The statement riot said about lack of interested reminded of this.
Riot doesnt advertise the gamemode or doesn't give it enough effort/content.
Gamemodes dies from lack of players
Riot: Not our fault duh. The gamemode died because nobody played it. We arent going to invest in a dead gamemode
Player:but if you dont invest in it at all, nobody will play it.
Riot:what did you just say? Remove it? Okay.
That's not true in fact it's the opposite. Riot observed that, when they put a new game mode in the game like URF, the numbers of people playing increase for some time but then decrease a lot more than it increased, and they end up with less people playing the game than at the beginning. That's why they are making the new game mode temporary
@@lupainscius3889 i am talking about advertisement/budget spend on the gamemodes. Look at Summoner Rift budget compare to Twisted treeline. Its not even close.
Let's release an alpha gamemode, full of bugs, balance issues and stuff, not much people played it? well, nexus blitz you are gone, oh, wait, maybe you'll be back once or twice a year for a week or two, not the "testing new permanent fast paced 20min games game mode"
@@alephviga645 exactly. balancing is not touched on, along with things like limited MMR matching. nexus blitz is obviously quite rng-driven, so it isn't exactly very balanceable. ARAM with 2 rerolls already seems like it has reached max "balanceability", along with the rather hefty nerf/buff to dmg taken and dmg dealt for certain champs - and people still find ways to hack it for even more advantages. yet aram remains very popular across all servers - no ladders, just a pure alt mode.
i think what rito doesn't want to admit is that they can't afford to split their queues into too many modes as it increases wait times in every mode.
this. you cant just give us a (for now) bad mode, never improve/fix stuff and expect people to play it
either go all-in on the mode or dont bother. remember when they said "nexus blitz is gonna be permanent" until it wasnt? and how they didnt fix stuff a patch later, and instead gave it MINIMAL fixes half a year later when it reappeared as a rotating mode, but also adding new minigames with new stuff to abuse, and in the end breaking it even more?
I wish they still made multiple maps man. A shurima themed map would be so sick.
@Soz Im a Scrub I guess that technically counts but crystal scar was ugly as hell
Ascension isn't it?
@@davyddocarmocabral2989 these people dont remember the ascension gamemode. We are boomers man
Honestly even if it was just a reskin for summoners rift that changed in the games you played where one map is a Shurmia themed map and the other is a freljord themed map I think it could be a really cool addition to the game to really flesh out the universe of league of legends that we won't get to see until a future MMO is released.
@@kinmakin2180 dude i cant believe ascension was that long ago. It was lowkey pretty fun
I think the wildest part of this video is that santa gragas still looks like that
To this day I am devastated that we didn’t get the 1v1 mode promised! Thank you for caring about it! #neverforget
come play the other game. search ERBS. Lol feals awkwardly easy compare to this game.
@@deathskayebolo6806 only problem with ERBS is that the servers kinda suck if u aren't american or korean
Personally the old 3v3 mode was my fav, it wasnt a good map but they never bother improve it
@@deathskayebolo6806 IF you don't like battle royales that game is buttcheeks though
@Professor Duck there's no character named ana.
Oh man, the flashbacks to being hyped as hell for the OG Magma Chamber... and then disappointed as hell when it was canned.
to be fair one of the reason why 3v3 and dominion did not last was because of riot themselves. if you look at the history of them you can see riot did not care for them to much unlike 5v5 and aram they were not balanced or patched much hell characters like kayle poppy and trendamere were able to go into the enemy fountain and kill there whole team and walk out alive since the tower did not have the true damage that they did on summoner rift. they just were not balanced or cared about on riots side and the comunatiy seen that so why would they care to play something they knew they could not fix hell 3v3 only seen one major rework/ patch and then it was back to balancing towards summoner rift and for a game modes that did not play like summoner rift got unbalanced due to it hence why aram is still strong since it was a gamemode made around the balances of summoner rift
Seeing all the game modes list and knowing that Riot just spews (AR)URF OFA and NB (for a month when they wanna have an "event" with impossibly long missions so you're obligated to play it) makes me so sad, ascension. doom bots, black market etc where all really good quick fun and if they actually got to balance it like they do with ARAM now could've worked well with the weekly rotation
Too bad they are a bunch of retards to realize it...
Money is priority over longevity of the game.
Its sad that people still give money to a company that doesn't give a shit about its playerbase.
All 3 of those rotating modes drop play rates massively in just a week or two. Why should they maintain modes, whose play rates are dropping day by day?
Sure, you can start arguing that they should support and balance it more, blah blah blah. But realistically that will not help them
@@angelg3642 Vainglory was one of the most spectacular mobile moba's to ever exist but money problems eventually caught up. Turns out money is longevity, who knew.
@@romank9611 ask yourself why.
Bunch of close minded players...
The most fun game mode i think they came up with was odyssey, it was so unique and satisfying to play and a real change from the rest of the game
My brother still brings this map up from time to time. That just goes to show how much some people care about it.
Wow what a great video! You sure seem like a great CZcamsr!
Thanks friend!
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Unfollowed gbay100. Bring back the silverware videos.
Why do you have 2 channels? xD
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I think another important aspect that wasnt mentioned is that due to ARAM balance changes being tied to the Howling Abyss map, it's impossible to have a fair 1v1 there. If you pick Akali you literally deal 120% dmg and take only 80% (different from champ to champ) which completly defeats the purpose. Especially since 1v1s often end up being really close so you might win or lose a match due to the balance changes for an unrelated gamemode that you can't turn off
If they released 1v1 ranked I'd only play it
fr. screw the apes in summoners rift.
I'd love a 1v1 mode, I find (solo) laning really fun usually and it feels like a game of chess
Would love to play twisted treeline again or the galaxy/star guardian events. Been to long.
Don't we all :^)
watching the chinese play 2v2 on that map was just aesthetic af
I just want to say that seeing you in my feed made my day better :D now it is time to watch the video. keep going strong champ!
Same :D
I really think you should do a video about 3v3. For us it was hands down better than 5v5. You had control over your teammates, everyone knew eachother in high elo. Several new playstyles. It was heaven untill they crushed our dreams.
I still remember how everyone was hyped for the Magma Chamber to release for casual players too. We may not have been given that mode, but at least we got Snowdown Showdown, which... Well, which also doesn't exist anymore 😢
Personally I will never forget that mode as being one of the toughest one and especially one particular game:
As the main goal was to reach either 100cs, first blood or first turret I enjoyed playing Syndra until that one time when I got matched against an Orianna. As it turned out it was the closest game I've ever experienced. It was 95 cs vs 96 cs before the last wave hit and we both were at around 30% HP. From there on you can imagine how close this battle was about to become around the last few minions. In the end I succeeded and won with 100cs to 99cs, Orianna barely killing me in the process (My Q killed the last minion exactly at that moment, when Ori's Q was about to hit me :o).
To everyone who stuck by and read this story: hi!
To the Orianna I played against in that match: If you read this, be assured you'll never be forgotten! Was a pleasure to play this game against you 😊
God I miss twisted treeline. 😢
I will never forget the time I played in a 1v1 with Wildturtl and won in snowdown showdown. Maybe if they made a ranked system in 1v1 it would create more hype towards playing it more and the community would take it more seriously.
same happened to dominion never implemented ranked ladders whos gonna care after a thousand normal games. Aram is quick and more casual unlike what 3v3 and dominion were.
back it the day not anymore
damn, when you mentioned dominion i got some flashbacks. I used to play that way to much.
Here's my idea for a 1v1 gamemode in League:
It would be a best of three where each game the goal is to destroy the enemy Nexus rather than a First blood/100 cs/1st tower on a Howling Abyss style map. What would make this interesting though is that you'd have a ban phase where each player bans 3 champions and then each player takes turns picking the champions they'll play for the three games. They can play those champions in whichever order, but they have to use those champions and they can only use them once. For added fun they have access to Barrier, Exhaust Flash, Ghost, Heal and Ignite. However whichever two they choose for a game, they can't use for any other game. If the gameplay itself doesn't prove too slow as to be boring I think a gamemode like this would be really cool.
Really like the idea. Puts a lot more "Strategy" in the 1v1.
I used to love watching my brother smash 1v1s with old Yorick. That was the best.
Man seeing that 5v5 Magma Chamber concept art brings back so many memories from S1-3. Weirdly enough I was talking about it on stream the other day and you just put out a video about it. Thanks for the nostalgia trip gbae, great vid as always
After watching this im kinda pissed, a 1v1 game mode would be so hype. And back then streaming league of legends want as popular, but now streamers would be able to show it off and make hype for it... so sad
Its top lane but heaven
there should be a consistent rgm schedule, rolling in every single game mode that was released
Ah, Magma Chamber, the Ao Shin of maps
My brother and I played the snowdown showdown 2v2 mode soooo much. Miss it so much and always felt like Riot missed an opportunity to make a fun 1v1/2v2 ranked ladder
So glad you popped up with a new doc and it involves one of the hyped up game mode having magma map with howling abyss. It could of worked this time around with you know and we’ll let all the rage out on one person instead of everyone at everything
I totally forgot this was a thing. Thabks for reminding me. It was so fun watching the pro's 1v1 in the tournaments bach than and i truly believe that 1v1 rabked would have a proper playerbase. A big reason why the other modes dont work is because of no ranking system. 3v3 ranked used to be pretty popular i believe. Although dominion ranked was never popular so idk.
Your content is honestly so underrated, definitely deserves more views.
thanks for the quality work. keep it up. wish you well
even though i havent played league in years i still watch every single one of your videos, high quality content!
Hey Gbay, my wife's boyfriend is a big fan of your videos!
Haha... how should we put this to him? :P
W....WAIT A MINUTE
Hmmm
Is this bullying?
This was a really interesting video to watch good job man
i really miss twisted treeline. we had so many gaming nights, where someone went to bed and we were left with 3 people wanting to play more. so we went there.
it was really enjoyable to play in a different way (metawise). you still mostly had two solo lanes and a jungler, but the pathing and how close everything was changed so much.
really made me fall in love with lissandra and how she could just pop up anywhere.
games not being 40-60 minutes long also meant that a loss didnt feel THAT bad
Holy cow, I did not know that Magma Chamber was supposed to be a different 5v5 map and that it was announced in 2010! I only started playing in 2012. I also remember the old Proving Grounds tutorial when I first started and I did not recognize the resemblance to Howling Abyss! I learned so much in this video :D.
I loved the Magma Chamber 2v2 map when I saw it first played by the pros and I loved the Snowdown Showdown 1v1 mode. I am so sad that this has not gotten any more attention by Riot. Thanks for covering this!
MobA with different Maps might do really well. So far MobA's have stayed having one map mostly and balancing around it. But games like shooters, racing, even fighting games have different maps. Normally with a pick based nature, Different maps can also change game dynamics in major ways that is fun for players.
Gbay why don’t you use your influence to start a petition? I think most people would like this.
I’d 100% redownload League if 1v1s were added
15:55 LOL unoptimized map! thats a great excuse, but patently false. They weren't willing to commit a single indie dev to it.
Its always great when you start a day with gbays new video
I'm happy to see you on my feed Gbay 🥰
I appreciate your videos. Thanks for making them gbay99!
I love listening to these documentaries while studying, they are so calm and fun.
Great video man keep up the good work
And how do you record league in that 3D perspective
And how does it work
It’s wild how I was so upset about this, yet I forgot about it till your video
I love how informative your content is and I remember you're a man of your word cause you actually put up a video of you eating a sock
high hopes this video does launch the 1v1 ladder next preseason! HYPE
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Holy moly is Scarra that old?
Scarra's an OG
I used to love snowdown showdown it was a great way to just warm up before playing a real game of summoners rift even if they just brought it back without a ranked mode I think it could be a good addition to the game even just to warm your hands up before playing a match, or even the perfect game mode to play when you don't have the energy or time to play a full game of league. I remember commenting about this one time when they announced the rotating gamemodes back in like season 5 or so where a riot employee responded that 1v1s and 2v2s will be looked into being apart of the rotating gamemodes. Hopefully this documentary brings some light to riot games that theres a large community that wants a 1v1 and 2v2 map even still after all these years.
My favourite was teambuilder in season 5 I think, where you could premake your team so you controlled what champs and roles were in the game before going into a game, only problem is you never knew who the enemies would pick.
But imagine how many fun ideas you could breed with this concept.
You'd have the ranked 1v1 ladder and possibly seasonal events, where at a certain extent the game forces you to master champs from every role or something.
Fav youtuber you are amazing !! keep up
I loved Twisted Treeline and Dominion. The removal of alternate game modes marked the moment where the toxicity in the game really soared for me.
I still wish we got the old 5v5 mamga chamber to this day
I like this high quality documentary content ☺️
This video shows why league NEEDS community open map editor, so many frustration comes out from the fact that players are stuck to what riot is giving them away contrary to cs players (for instance) who can develop themselves the product they want (and the map editor is rly easy to use), I know this can lead to a low quality editor that doesn't do much for its game and lets the community change stuff (like Valve) but I really like for example the forge on Overwatch.
And please, allow RGM on custom for god's sake
Inly true ogs remember the 10v10 Magma chambers concept rip
All the maps and game types should be available in custom game modes at least. When 6 friends get together to play league, 3v3 twisted treeline was the most fun, but removing that entirely means we either kick someone out, play separately, or play another game, none of which is fun for anyone.
Daumm I miss playing Hide and Seek on Dominon good old days.
Thanks gbay, now I'm pissed off about this lmao.
You can tell that you have put in a lot of work in these documentaries and that's what sets your videos apart from other LoL channels ( let's be honest, these isn't much quality LoL content on youtube). So keep up the great work!!!
1 year later, Wild Rift now has a 1v1 mode where you select a champion, queue up and play against a random person who picked a different champ. Mirrot matches are rare
I would really love a queue to practice matchups. The worst part about league is that it is hard to improve when you're trying to learn how to play against Teemo, and then their jungler comes, kills you, and the lane is over
Great video gbay
I've always wondered what happened to Twisted Treeline, I wish they hadn't removed it and had gone ahead with these other ideas. Great video man. Damn you RIOT.
i love this documentaries but they make me so nostalgic and i feel sad after this failure tipe of videos :( i remember watching live that all stars event and getting so hyped to try the map SADGE
Love you Gbay keep up the good work with the content :)
I MISS THIS
Me and my friend play league together time to time and we almost always start our gamenights (about 5-10 games of SR) with a 1v1 games for 5 wins, which means as we are similarly skilled about 8 or 9 1v1 games. I'd love to have a game mode to measure our wincon instead of us having to permanently be wary about our cs in case one of us was close to 100 cs.
And yeah, we spend about 30+ minutes 1v1 and several hours of SR, but on average we go 1v1 more times than we go queue up for duo ranked.
Haven't played Dota in long time, I mainly play League, but just in case people don't know, the term ARAM comes from the original DotA WC3 mod. It was a command you can input that turns off the top and bottom lanes of the map and gives players random heroes to battle it out in the mid lane.
people dont play the other modes cause there's no ranked, if anyone of them had a ladder the userbase would skyrocket
exactly it also useful to learn laning. Now I would have removed the 100 creeps a first kill and first tower and enough of skill showing also makes you wanna fight more the more fun.
twisted treeline did have a ranked queue and even in low elo the queue times were insanely long.... i did love the game mode but it was very apparent that basically no one played it regularly.
thank you gbay
I played Top lane Shaco on TT. This is the equivalent of saying "We all played jax down by the soda fountain." I am now old.
Hi Gbay, love your videos. Can you do a video about nexus blitz?
21:15 "and try to ryze up" I see what you did there
Rito introduces Ranked 1v1 mode.
Yasuo playrate in SoloQ drops to 0%.
No wonder permanent modes end up being getting removed, they just kept neglecting them.
Guess that gave us automated buffs for aram, so... I suppose we're stuck with - + 20% dmg reduced/dealt akali buffs, yay
as someone who only plays ARAM nowadays, i dont see how i can get as invested in alternate gamemodes if i know they only last two weeks
I swear there was a different showdown map on the OCE server once. It was a tiny 1v1 map mode on a bridge and the orientation was a bit different than the ARAM map, thinner. It was only there for a few days. It can't have been a fever dream
To be fair, Snowdown Showdown took more time to find a game, select champions, load the game, than te whole match itself. Sometimes, you could win before lvl3, which would make the experience a bit frustrating, because you just entered the game and now you have to complete the whole process to play again
oh man, i remember seeing that sivHD video back in the day. I'm starting to get old
Just imagine the possibilities for a 1v1 game mode. player skill at least in solo lanes would accelerate a lot quicker as you can practice 1v1s against more matchups more often and get more practice on a champion or matchup than you could in 5v5. It also creates a quick 5 minute game mode that I find myself wishing for very frequently. I think a 1v1 mode could be both a very good practice tool and fun game mode people go back to since it's such a short and easy commitment.
Amazing video!
1v1 would've been so fun
Shout out to Twisted treeline, making the boss dance was great..
oh my god id LOVE having a 1v1 mode - i love the league-universe/characters but sometimes i just dont wanna deal with a team. Legends of runeterra/teamfight tactics are... okay, but man id grind 1v1
I know the regular map is most popular, But i freaking LOVED twisted treeline because i had exactly 5 other friends from my school and we used to 3v3 and mixed the teams Every Day after school. We played for stuff like pencils and ice cream cones the next day :D
darn i wish we could turn back time
I remember the snow down show down you got some summoner icons for playing it
They could still add the Showdown ruleset as a custom gamemode. The interest level doesn't even matter if it's a custom, and would only serve to help the community who's already creating these events.
I do understand the reason a bit, although I think their metric of how much time spent in the temporary game mode doesn't tell us enough. However, if we take the example of a 5-minute 1v1 game compared to a 30-minute 5v5 game, the system has to match _more_ players per minute with (presumably) a smaller player pool than Summoner's Rift.
If 1 SR game takes 30 minutes, and you usually have 10 simultaneous games running in that time, that's 100 players matched in a 30-minute period or an average of 3.33~ players matched per minute. If you take the context presented of players spamming queues -- which consequently _forces_ the system to find matches at very short intervals -- and you have 10 simultaneous 1v1's running every 5 minutes, that means 60 1v1's are ran per 30 minutes, or 120 players matched in a 30-minute period or 4 players matched per minute. The system is having to do _more_ matching more frequently with, as stated, most likely a smaller player pool since League's primary game mode will always have the most players.
You could argue that the system doesn't actually need to do much matching because those same 120 players are the ones who keep requeuing, but then...cool? The game mode is limited to that specific player pool and that's it, and when they stop playing after 30 minutes' worth of matching, the queue is dead? That's not great. Or you could argue the system wouldn't have to do as much matching as SR because maybe 10 simultaneous SR games and 10 simultaneous 1v1 games is too bold an assumption. Maybe there are only 5 simultaneous 1v1 games. Okay but then the only reason for that is either the player pool is just outright smaller or the system isn't matching queued players because of the aforementioned issues. Arguably, the simultaneous games of 1v1 should be near SR given matches require 80% fewer players and, according to the video, players will be spamming matches. So a significantly worse number of simultaneous matches for a mode that requires significantly fewer players per match than SR just outright means the game mode isn't popular.
If you keep it at 10 simultaneous games to at least keep it on par with SR, then the example provided in the video of someone spamming 1v1's for the equivalent time of 1 SR paired with metric of only 1% overall game time implies that the player plays in bursts and then stops queuing. So great, the player "cares" about the game mode a lot because he _iterates_ rapidly, but he's ultimately _not_ spending as much time as an eligible player as someone who plays SR might. Someone who plays SR might might play 2-3 games, so they are an eligible player for a total of 90 minutes in a mode that doesn't have to match as many players per minute as a 1v1. And if you really wanted to be a stickler about numbers, you could take the 1% figure of overall game time and use that to estimate someone spending 30 minutes as an eligible player for 1v1's is spending 3,000 minutes as an eligible player for SR since the 1v1 represents 1% of play time. Whereas someone playing just 30-minutes of 1v1's is playing "more" matches but is spending _less_ time in a game mode that requires _more_ players per minute. And people already complain about queue times in League's most popular game modes...
This video made me miss the hell out of Dominion. I used to have so much fun playing that and Twisted Treeline... now I haven't even been able to get myself to launch the league client in like 2 years. FeelsBadMan
There are so many amazing game-modes going to waste. I've been dying to play Ascension, Blood Moon, and Siege. The worst part is, now that the boards are gone, there's no way to voice displeasure. Most posts on the subreddit that paint riot negatively get deleted, so players have no input anymore.
Other players have told me they really want the PvE gamemodes back, like Doom Bots and Star Guardian.
21:16 "Ryze up"