Making Quick Work of Blade Sharpening | Sharpening Old Sawmill Blades
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- čas přidán 15. 07. 2024
- Making quick work of blade sharpening by sharpening old sawmill blades is the name of the game today on Sawing with Sandy. After much debate a while back, I decided to invest in a Woodland Mills sawmill blade sharpener and tooth setter and I'm glad I did. No more having to find someone to sharpen them and hope they are done when I want to use them. No more having to buy new blades after a few longs when the blade becomes dull. Now I'm able to set the blade teeth and sharpen them just how I like whenever I like. On today's episode you'll see me touring around on the golf cart, talking about firewood and finally sharpening some blades. With some logs dulling the sawmill blade fast, this sharpener sure is nice to keep me cutting and prevent me from waiting. Check out the technique I use to set and sharpen my blades in today's video. It's really easy and as you can tell, doesn't take too much time or effort. Now if only I could keep my shop clean I'd be laughing. Ahh well, always next time. Thanks for watching folks, here we go!
Sawmill Blade Tooth Setter shown in this video:
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Sawmill Blade Tooth Sharpener shown in this video:
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Blade Tooth Settings shown on digital tooth setter display in the video: 0.90-1.0mm (approximately)
Blades shown in this video: Lenox Blades
Sharpener settings: 10 degrees - Jak na to + styl
Thanks Sandy I love how you tell the tooth the whole tooth and nothing but the tooth, sorry just had to do it.
you've made me remember why I don't resharpen my own blades. lol, these take a lot of time and effort to spend setting and sharpening for me.
Yeah for sure. If there's a good option to have your blades sharpened near by you it could be a better option
I've been thinking about those tools for sharpening my blades. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks again Sandy. Great camera work as usual. Congrats on 20,000 Subs. You deserve it!
Well done. Outstanding block of instruction.
Thanks Thomas
it is either a snow machine or water jet ski knowing you Sandy it is probably the elephant in the room.
Thanks Sandy !! Nice Video again.
Thanks appreciate you tuning in
I like both machines....the automated tooth advancer and sharpening machine is very nice, low tch and yet works perfectly.
I am about to start this video. I appreciate you doing it because i have wondered about these machines.
Glad the timing worked Terry
Thanks again Sandy for explaining your blade sharpening setup. I think your next project is a replacement bridge so your duffer cart won't careen off into the moss when you get it airborne .
It's an underwater basket weaving machine?? LOL it's all good Sandy cant wait to see it later. love the behind the scenes work that goes into keeping all the machines up n running!
I do have some crazy ideas sometimes. Maybe that machine you mentioned could be it ! Hope things are well and thanks for watching
Great tutorial video and was very interesting
Thanks John!
Have you done any videos showing how to fold and unfold blades? I’ve watched quite a few videos but may have missed it. Thanks for all the info! Recently purchased a used HM130 and you have already answered A LOT of questions. Really enjoy the channel.
Another good vid on the blade sharpening, an thanks for the quick tour around on the golf cart, glad you figured out the issue with it! In regard to your golf cart being made in Japan, when I’m looking for used tools I’ll usually try look for older brands of tools that are made in Japan. I’ve always found older tools and equipment from Japan are good quality :). Cheers Sandy!
Yeah can imagine once you find something that works it's hard to get rid of
That is awesome, I have been wondering what the sharpeners looked like in action.
Under the tarp looks like a Motorcycle or Snow Bike, good video...
Good guess TJ. Thanks for watching
Thanks for another video. I haven't ordered me a sharpener or setter yet. Just checked on the setter and it's 4 months (ship by September 30).
Yeah can imagine the demand for those types of things are high right now. Whatever you decide just is good to hear you’re out sawing . All the best
I've got that exact same dart board. :) Love your stuff, Sandy. My HM130MAX is on order and I can't wait for it to get here.
Its a great old dart board eh! Thanks for tuning in. Hope ball is going well for ya
Hope the wait isn’t too long for ya
@@sawingwithsandy It is a great dartboard! It was my Grandpa's, and I happened to have worked at a King's Head Pub at one point along my travels.
The wait... well, that's another issue. I think they said it will ship by August 31st. *sigh* Cheers from another Canuck.
Very informative video !! Thank you , I bought a sharpener for my chainsaw. I hear I do a good job...lol I sharpen chains for couple buddies. Can’t wait for new project . To short for a snow sled .but never know . Thanks. Craig. Pa.
Sounds like you’ve got the eye For the sharpening . I find it fun as long as I’m not doing it too often haha
smart
Thanks for watching Don
You have some really cool toys.
Thanks Paul. Some days I feel like a junk collector when I’m always wrenching on things but it sure has taught me a lot
When you start throwing parts at a vehicle it always comes down to a bad wire. It’s usually a ground though. Nice golf cart.
Hi sandy im new to your channel and i must say i love the hillbilly hide out 2.0 playlist. I recently ordered the 130 max and you helped my disition on which one to pick thank you for your videos
Glad to hear you like the videos Joey. Also good to hear you’re going to be doing some sawing. You’ll like it for sure
great vid Sandy, I think you have an Edger for your mill under the tarp ;) Cheers from Aus
All these ideas. Sure would like some of them to be true
I recognised its profile right away - thats a lathe under the tarp
Some good guesses out there
Hi Sandy, looks like you got a snow mobile under that tarp
You’re spot on! 2006 skidoo skandic swt
Great video Sandy. I always learn something with each video! Where did you get all the cages? All I can find around here have the water tank too and they’re quite expensive.
I bought them a long time ago just by chance on the online marketplace
Hi Sandy. Have you tried different thooth angle?? I've tried 7 degrees for hard wood and I've also sharpened at 14 degrees for soft wood. I've made a test in red maple with the 7 degrees. Haven't tried the 14 yet. Do you always use 10 degrees??
Your blade sharpener and gummer set up is the same as we used in shake mills. We cut cedar into cordwood lengths and then made three quarters of a inch boards with a splitting machine that would just rattle them off in like stacks of what was comfortable for the sawyer to pick off the conveyor where he would pick each one up and guide it into the saw blade and start on one side and finish on the other leaving the spilt board to be sawn into on the inside of each board making it able to lay flat on a roof and shed water hence shakes for peoples roofs. I used to do everyone of the sawyers blades for them keeping blades uniform in sharpness and usable on any shake saw in the mill. Different people do blades differently and subsequently blades that handle differently on the saw it is on. A person who is green in this area or lazy can get a good sawyer cut badly as I can attest to as I would shuttle them to a doctor to see if the fingers can be reattached or they are just going to be missing. I personally know how it feels to cut a finger off and get it reattached to me... one finger has been reattached two times and is still quite numb to this day forty years later. Nice job showing people what goes on Sandy
Awesome video as usual..:) I bet its a Kawasaki Snow Mobile under the cover....? Although I did notice in one of your tiny home builds in 2019, there was a small boat in your workshop and maybe you are doing that up..?
I am Two hours North of Elliot Lake. I hope under the tarp is not my missing Snowmobile. Just kidding.
hahah I can assure you this isn't the one.
So doing this extends the life how many times? Did you ever buy the extra parts kit. Comes with bearing belts and blades? How many blades you go through? Curious cause I'm going to build my own house. You think the wood would be dry enough if I mill it over winter and use in summer?
Do you have to buy this apparatus to fit a certain tooth pitch. Or can it work on different ones
Hey Sandy. I have been learning from your videos. You seem to have the best ones on here. I just bought and am waiting on delivery of the 122. Do you use the blades offered by W.M. or do you us another brand?
I've only ever used the Lenox blades sold by Woodland Mills
Some two stroke engines can be temperamental. Carburetors gum up to easy. Constantly replacing diaphragm
Yeah hopefully this one keeps going now for a while. Sure is a fun unit
Wow That is very interesting, who knew saw sharpening could be so fast, looks like you are having fun doing all this except for the blackfly. Great camera work, how long do you spend doing all the editing and spacing for your interesting videos? Cheers
Hi Rob. Glad you enjoyed the video. I spend a few hours generally on just the editing
We are on manitoulin. We got a lumber pro 36 Norwood. Are you in Ontario canada. Are you close to manitoulin
Hi Sandy,
Don’t know if anyone has asked, where do you get your cages from? Looking at using the same thing for my split lumber.
Cheers,
KJ
Hi KJ, I normally just keep an eye on Facebook marketplace. I found these by chance one day and ended up buying 50 of them. Sure are handy
@@sawingwithsandy Thanks Sandy, I think our new acreage might be kind of close to you. Would you be interested in meeting up?
Regards, KJ
Sandy what is your degree of angle on your sharpener and I believe you got a souped up scooter under that tarp just to fly around on your trails lol 😂 only for your visitors hahahahaha have a great day sandy and keep making man glitter ✨ 😆
My guess is a new more automated log splitter is hiding under that tarp spring offers savings on them.
Hmmm..., could be haha
I noticed on you ride all the trees in your forest were is straight lines and evenly spaced was the forest planted by man?
This red pine forest is human planted
Hi Sandy, I've enjoyed many of your videos. My HM130 max is ordered and on it's way. I ordered many accessories to go with it including a ten pack of blades. I've had a hard time deciding about the sharpener. I didn't order it with the mill as the almost $1k for the sharpener and tool setter is a bit much for wallet at the moment. While I love the idea of being self sufficient and being able to sharpen my own blades I have to ask is it worth it? I'm obviously new to sawmilling and I don't know quite a bit. At $25 per blade it takes 40 blades to equal $1k. How long would it take to go through 40 blades? Any info you can give would be helpful, thanks.
Hey Brent! Thanks for watching the channel all this time. I had the same hard decision you did an it took me about a year of sawing for me to decide that it was worth the cost to buy the sharpener as I found the convenience was worth it for me. I don't have anyone near me that sharpens blades and I was finding it expensive to have to buy new blades especially on those days where I'd dull two blades inadvertaintly by hitting a nail or dirt or something. Now that I've got the sharpener I find I"m not buying blades hardly at all and so the ability to simply touch up the saw blades and get back to sharpening without having to order and wait for delivery is nice.
@@sawingwithsandy Thanks for the reply, that helps. I think I'll be ordering one this fall. How often do you normally change a blade? Do you think a ten pack is enough for a comfortable rotation of blades or should a guy want more than that?
Looks like a stump grinder
I've got old blades been hanging in the shop for years. Will rusty blades sharpen up and work?
I'd say you can clean them up nice with a wire wheel and sharpen them no problem
If i had to guess what is under the tarp i would say a new attachment for your tractor because of your new jacket at the beginning of the video
good eye on the new jacket
shingle maker
That sounds like a good idea even if it’s not
I have to know what did the wire go to? I know what's under the tarp it's a 100 proof sludge maker.
Hahaha you know me too well
Hi, so when the sharpener in in action it looks like it sharpens at zero degrees across all sets. Is that correct?
I set it to 10 degrees
@@sawingwithsandy hi. That's interesting. Does your auto sharpener sharpen one set one way and then the opposing set another way, ie +10 degrees then -10 degrees. Just asking as it looks like it sharpens all teeth the exact same angle, which I thought woukd cause the blade to rise up or down when cutting. Interesting machine indeed.
So sharpening the top of the tooth is bad right?
Do you have a regular job ? Or just saw and cut wood ?
Maybe a different splitter.
Is your future project going to be a golf cart manufacturer unit ..? 😂
Haha at this rate it's probably going to be a golf cart dealership
Glasses. Hello. Glasses. Or goggles.
My first thought is that a motorcycle is under the tarp.
I wouldn't mind that actually. But it turns out it's a snowmobile
A snowmobile is even better where you got a lot more snow
Too big for an espresso maker, so my WAG is that it is a Ford 8n tractor.
Starts at 8:00 .. speaking of 'noisy' introductions.... phew .. that's 40% 'noise' at the start of the episode straight away.
Wondering why you are not giving back of the tooth a little touch?
He said he was going to run that blade twice, second time reset to grind the gullet. Why grind the backs of the teeth?
@@OregonOldTimer Back of tooth can micro fracture and get dinged just like the rest of the blade. Best practice is to hit every surface
I didn’t film the second go around for the blade but usually the second pass is when I give a very slight touch to the gullet. With some blade profiles I’m unable to do the entire tooth in one pass as that takes too deep of a grind
@@sawingwithsandy I find that my blades cut better with that little touch. I am usually cutting bigger logs than you are. Also dealing with white pine pitch lately I started to use diesel fuel and chain oil mixed half and half just a little squirt when it needs it.
@@Desert_Hobo That's the only reason I could think of. Cook's sharpeners grind face, gullet, and backside.
Im guessing its a bigger sawmill
I think you’re building yourself a new log splitter.
Not a bad guess. Even if it turns out to be something different, I’m sure getting some good ideas here
Sandy, where is that where you work and living, canada usa or???
I’m in Ontario Canada
it is a motor cycle with a side car
I sure would like that
If the sharpener runs past...it should not touch the blade..no worry of it ruining your blade.
Saw blades terminator. 5
Its a snowmobile
If it’s covered it’s not dancing girls.
I can say for certain it’s made of metal if that helps at all haha
Isn’t it funny how much it cost to be self reliant now a days?
MISTAKE!!!! You should sharpen first then set as when you sharpen your set goes down!
Everything I've seen, read, and heard says set first so sharpened tooth is square with the blade. Reduction in set would be microscopic.
I’m not sure what’s right or wrong here but I’ve always set first as my thinking was that I want to sharpen the blade where the final position will be for the teeth
Well, whatever is under the tarp is not tall enough to be a Zamboni. . .
HAha that’s for sure
While I appreciate self reliance, the cost is questionable/practable. The setter is $299 and the sharpener is $699 ( not counting freight). I buy blades from GA at $16 each delivered. I would have to sharpen 63 blades before breaking even.
Yeah I can see your point. Here in Canada the blades cost me about $25 cdn each and so with the cost of 849 and 299 cdn for the sharpener and setter pays for itself a bit faster here
@@sawingwithsandy I'd love to send you my old blades. They are currently just gathering rust. I don't have a way to sharpen them. It's cheaper for me to buy new ones. Wonder what the freight is from SC to ONT?
Wow it's auto lol
They are a lot of money do really think they are worth it.
Sandy, appreciate the video but you'd do better editing out the irrelevant bits. So far 3 minutes in and not a bit about blades. Post this stuff in a separate video!
Be sure to check out my other videos dealing with blades off you’re looking to get to the sharpening faster. Some videos I provide context ahead of time