Seriously this is the best CZcams channel for comparisons of these types of powered speakers. The quality of sound recording is equal to the best on CZcams in my opinion. This particular comparison is really invaluable. Look forward to the calibrated test coming up - that will be the deciding factor for me. At the moment the difference isn't big enough to warrant double the price! One for the study and one for the bedroom!
I own both and really love the micros. I think what I like most is the portability. The sound of them both is incredible but after sitting in front of my Micros (about 3'-4' away) they are just amazing for their size. My MTMs are great but the buttons on the back are stupidly laid out. Whereas the micros have a physical "analog" switch you can feel and know exactly where they are set, the MTMs are digitally controlled where you cycle through 3 modes on every one of their 4 buttons, which means you need to see them in order to make sure you have them set the same. I had one MTM that would clip and reboot and the setting of the HPF would reset back to 50Hz even if I had set it to 60Hz. I think if anyone is looking at either one you can't go wrong with the quality in sound, very solidly built. but if it were me I'd save the money and buy the cheaper micros and have another pair of speakers to A/B to . Use the money toward a nice preamp or something. Go out to dinner. :) I almost forgot to mention one other cool aspect of the micros. They are Bluetooth but that's not the best part...... They can play Bluetooth AND wired audio at the same time! No need to press any buttons to switch. Very cool.
...The MTMs 'seem tempting', But I live in an apartment building & Bought the Micro's & WOW, What a 'pleasant surprise' they are!...So instead of 1 set of MTM's, I can grab ANOTHER set of Micro's, For my other room & Pair them up with my Edifiers through a dual audio out source!, HAH!...
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Literally just bought the MTM's today. Can't wait to get them. It was because of this video is what made me want to get them even more, thanks for this!!
@@ChrisKeyman Surprisingly they sound great. Once you calibrate them to your room, you'll find that the magic is in the mid range frequencies. The highs aren't to bright like my KRK V6's, but your mixes will translate very well in all listening peripherals. And the bass response on here is amazing. I don't know how IK Multimedia did it, but it really sounds like they have a sub in them. Definitely a great investment for the price. I do have to say that when you try to push the volume to high, it will automatically mute the speaker if your pushing the volume to loud and I think that's owed to the built in DSP. Overall I love em.
In the US, the Micro is $300/pair and the MTM is $700/pair. I understand the idea of diminishing returns, but for more than double the price AND extra desk space lost, I'm not sure I can justify the MTM. Shame there are no retailers to audition these at, but thank you for another outstanding video! Just saved me $400 on the MTMs.
This video is definitely not the best for advertising the new MTM. However you can clearly hear the difference on Man on Fire and MTM sounds definitely better.
Mtm is a world of difrance plus can help turn a bad room into a decent mixing space with its arc tunning. I have both amd love both but this vid is not doing the mtm justice.
Micros don't have ARC (room calibration). Can use Sonarworks or any other 3rd-party solution though, but it's not the same as all-in-one package of MTM.
They're both great speakers but, owning both, there's a marked difference between them. The MTMs are fully usable as production monitors: the range is better, they're 'flatter', the textures of sounds are clearer, and there's much better definition in the sense of left-right width and the illusion of depth. If you were just buying for listening, the iLoud Micros are fantastic but if you want something even better and/or produce music, the MTMs are easily worth the extra money.
@@joechapman8208 I have 2 amazing sets ofmonitors, but I am looking for a small monitor get a different perspective being small, maybe to pickup something different that they can offer or maybe to reassure balance or something else..and I did not listen the Ilouds, but I wonder which one would be better for that purpose
@@bluematrix5001 Hard to say, because these don't sound like small monitors. When playing a big mix, they sound a lot like my big monitors, so they're not useful for getting that different perspective: "How will this mix translate to lesser consumer speakers?" and so on. These really are highly capable monitors, and the draw is that they're portable rather than second-opinion devices. I had the first iLoud mini monitors too, and they were great but the MTMs are a massive step up where I would be totally confident that a mix on them is good. The room-correction system is ARC. Because of the discount I have from buying the hardware, I bought the full software ARC 3 too so that I could calibrate my non-portable monitors versus the room -- also, I was curious to see how good the built-in ARC was, since it uses fewer measurements than the software. The software one identified a small dip in the room response at 100Hz and a slight issue at about 400Hz beyond what the speakers' own ARC picked up but it was remarkably good. I wouldn't have any concerns about relying on the iLouds when travelling with headphones as a check, but of course having the full ARC software does give me that extra peace of mind. If you want a different perspective, you might be better off getting a cheap set of PC speakers. These are all about portability and nothing else; you close your eyes and you don't know that it's not a 7" nearfield.
@@joechapman8208 thank you that is exactly what I wanted to know, I understand the portability factor and that is great... but I imagine all what I should know about the Mix I can tell thru my DD 8C and my Amphions.... so maybe I should look for a cool computer speaker. thanks
@@bluematrix5001 Yeah, exactly. Go for a little set of £20 Logitechs or something, and you'll get an idea of how your average phone/laptop/Echo listener is going to hear it. Maybe just playing it through the TV's speakers would be enough, to get the generic consumer hardware sound? I tend to rely on playing mixes through cheap earbuds and my phone, since the DAC on my phone isn't fantastic.
Due to their size Micros seem to overhype compression and sound weird at low mids imho. But in the end it’s all a matter of getting used to and knowing your sound source of choice. It’s all relative. They are a great option for the price. MTMs are a truly pro set no doubt. Good job IK team!
I checked them side to side in a store and while mtms are better at certain things I still prefer small ilouds. They feel more balanced to me and are MUCH smaller and MUCH lighter. Oh and MUCH cheaper. However if you’re picking speakers just for listening and enjoyment - grab mtms they’re super fun especially at 40hz switch. Overall those 2 soeakers sound like a completely different set of speakers to me - so choose wisely
I have both of these. Amazing speakers. They still have that "small sound", but I recommend them fully. Especially the MTMs. Mixing: no problem. Mastering maybe a push but the detail on the bass in the MTMs when calibrated is insane for the price point. They blew my Eris E8s out of the water in every way apart from raw power but still go loud enough for mixing
Small sound, yes. By lowering the frequencies at 2100Hz with an EQ (-4dB, Q Factor 3,5) you can take off the boxy, ""cheap"" sounding of both. I think it's a side effect of the small plastic housing. After playing a bit with the typical 150Hz bumb the micro sound exactly like big ADAM T7V, except for the minimal less deep sub bass - but the iLouds even have better, more precise mids.
This is what i wanted to see. Its too bad your Valuable video was found after scrolling through many videos of this exact speaker comparison pair. Thank you so much for making this video.
Excellent review. Your reviews are simply the best. I have the iLoud Micro and wanted to buy the iLoud MTM MKll too. Based on what I hear in this review, it seems like the difference in sound quality between the two (in this case the MTM MKl), is not that exceptional big. The micro cost about USD 350 a pair and the MTM MKll about USD 800 a pair. Please let me know if what I hear is correct.
i had both in my small studio setup, basically a corner of my living room, far from ideal conditions, make retrowave style music, the difference between the two for me was huge, clarity/depth/imaging of the MTMs was very impressive, the micro monitors were great as well but didn't have the same detail or punch, there is of course quite a big price difference, the calibration makes a nice difference as well i've kept the MTMs, although i'm still interested in testing out some Genelecs in my setup
MTM are to loud and boomie, The micro are more balanced for critical listening mixing or work with. MTM I definitely will use for just listen music and the micro for the studio. Great comparison.
The difference (most) is the MTM cost more than twice Micro (at least in my country). For the very similar sound quality in most songs genre. But, even your workspace is non acoustic treatment, MTM still sounds very good, thx too that arc microphone..
Why is the source track louder than the comparing monitors? You can't make an accurate judgement when any of the samples is noticably louder in gain than the rest.
I like my iloud micro monitors a lot. Sometimes there’s a woofy sound in the low end that isn’t good. I also don’t like the direction of the on/off switch on the back of the left speaker, but it sounds like it’s better than the MTM’s on off switch situation. Judging from the frequency response chart, the MTM’s have more bass extension, which is a plus.
Which would you recommend as pc speakers for casual listening/gaming and not producing/mixing? Are the MTMs worth the extra costs or should the micros be enough?
Hmmm... Is the MTM iLoud calibrated here? If so, as good as it sounds, I can't recommend spending such a vast difference to get the new ones. Lovely comparison, and thanks for being the only CZcamsr that does these detail comparisons. Is it possible for you to compare the MTMs to the LSR 305/306?, MTM vs Genelecs/Kali 8In? Also, is it possible for you to compare the Fluance Ai40 and Ai60 hi-fi speakers to low-end monitors like KRK Rokit 5s and JBL LSR305s? The Fluance is a cheap hi-fi, non-ported system with a measured freq response seems very flat, at +-3db if I'm not mistaken. Would really like to see how they stack up against professional studio monitors. Thanks
Sometimes I can hear more surround sound with MTM. But the difference is quite hard to catch. I don't know why but it is more clear in another comparison by PianoManChuck. Good job though. Thank you.
so if I want a small speaker to just have a reference in small speakers specially for balance which one is better? I own 2 very great and high end , very expensive monitors
The MTM definetlly sound better to me but not by a whole lot. The bass is a touch stronger but above all the Micros seem to have this slight boxyness in the mids - can't really come up with a better way of describing it but that's what I can hear. Anyone else?
Reamp your verses through the micros, and reamp your choruses through the MTMs! 🤣 Both sounded great, but definitely lower bass and a bit of a wider sound to the MTMs. Honestly, for the money, the Micros are probably the better buy, but it is nice that they have a "higher echelon" coveres with the MTMs.
Mtm has a better sense of punch. Mtm has a better mid- to low-end resolution. Mm speaker is heard by a slight clump in the middle range. But considering the price, mm is worth enough.
I have both... The biggest difference to me is the stereo imaging of the MTM is MUCH better. If you usually only work in mono then I would say just go w/ micro, but if you do need stereo imaging a lot of details get lost w/ them.
I'm not understanding this comparison concept, because my headphones are $14 headphones and I can hear the difference in the frequency response of all sound sources in this video ......
the lower mids sound a bit more full on the mtm and have tamed that slightly boxy quality that i've found on the micro (around the 1k ish area?). I've always felt the mids to be slightly off for that reason when listening to mine. That alone makes me want to try out the mtms. Bass also seems to extend a bit more. I'm still impressed what the micros can do though and is hands down the best in it's size. also how much more headroom do the mtms have? (edit: saw the freq response graphs at the end and yea that's confirmed).
Great comparison, best audio channel on youtube, thanx👍 The smaller iloud sounds a bit boxy and (too) midrangy in comparison and lacks air and sparkle in the treble. Would love to hear how the MTM’s would compare to Neumann kh80 dsp🤔
MrBazsi888 I’ve owned the kh120, well built and decent sounding but has a mildly u-shaped sound even though it measures very flat on-axis and has good dispersion. Here’s a link to a comparison between kh120 and it’s three way big brother kh310. The kh80 I heard in a store’s studio room and it sounded very neutral but a bit mid-forward, but the placement was too high so it maybe was caused by that. But it sounded definetely better than genelec 8020 and yamaha hs7 that were in the same room. czcams.com/video/mnnzHVK2vfY/video.html
MrBazsi888 So I b(r)ought the kh80 to my reherseal space for testing. Very neutral and pleasant sounding, in a whole different league compared to the iloud micro which I also own. The Iloud can compete in bass extension but it’s more flabby, hard to distinguish bass lines. The impressive bass extension on the iloud is more for entertainment and field work than serious listening or studio work. My initial impression of the kh80 being a bit mid-forward remains, one can hear it clearly on mid-centric guitar records like Kyuss and Queens of the stone age. And it seems to lack a bit of treble sparkle, cymbals could sound a bit more metallic and airy, but think this is easily fixed by minor eq:ing and it could also be an artefact of my overly damped room. But after one day of listening I’m very pleased with the sound and it measures more flat on the same spot than the iloud micro. Too bad they didn’t have the iloud MTM for comparison. Would recommend to a friend👍
Ezra Shanti Dutch & Dutch is on the top of my list, but my listening space now doesn’t allow for such big monitors and can’t have speakers playing that low bcause of neighbours😃👍
@@ChrisKeyman very good indeed. I bought them for my Prologue 8 and they sound great but I do notice that in the low registers of some patches the ilouds don’t have the bass response. So the very low end will just disappear but I think a lot of monitors would respond the same on a synth.
I have Iloud Micro, but I listened to this test in Sennheiser HD 650 to catch the difference. But I did not hear this difference much. In MTM, a little more bottom and a little more top, but this is not enough for the difference in price in half.
1. reference: eve audio sc 208 master hearing 2. reference: iloud micro mixing, recording that's my next step after my jbl 305 left crashed after 5 years.....there is a clip on youtube showing 305 vs micro....they sound similar, but the micro is basstard as far as i checked here all the vids. only thing i don't like on the micros is mini jack input instead of jack and the build quality probably not that sexy ?
not only the iloud sounds more tight, but also much joyable & fun. MTM sounds a bit out of control. both needs a dsp subwoofer in the long run. original recording has waaay more bottom end and on both model's sub-50hz territory is missing.
For a slightly bigger box, you could get the KH80 on SALE plus a calibrated mic like umik-1 - and REW. Doing your own EQ and measurements will teach you a lot about speaker-room interaction. Optimum Placement and Room Treatment etc. As your acoustics knowledge grows, these speakers will only get better with future optimizations on your part.
First of all, they’re both iLoud. One is iLoud MM and the other is iLoud MTM. The MTM would be better in an untreated room due to room correction; and neither has a built in sub output so you should have a dac or interface or something to hook these + the sub into
Jak się nie mylę to już dobrze znasz MTM i Micro. Duża jest różnica? Warto płacić 3x za MTM? Duży to przeskok dźwiękowy? *Gdybys mial np 2200 zł to kupiłbys iLoud Micro (za 1200zl) czy odłożył kolejne 700 zł i kupił MTM -bo warto? :)
Seriously this is the best CZcams channel for comparisons of these types of powered speakers. The quality of sound recording is equal to the best on CZcams in my opinion. This particular comparison is really invaluable. Look forward to the calibrated test coming up - that will be the deciding factor for me. At the moment the difference isn't big enough to warrant double the price! One for the study and one for the bedroom!
I own both and really love the micros. I think what I like most is the portability. The sound of them both is incredible but after sitting in front of my Micros (about 3'-4' away) they are just amazing for their size. My MTMs are great but the buttons on the back are stupidly laid out. Whereas the micros have a physical "analog" switch you can feel and know exactly where they are set, the MTMs are digitally controlled where you cycle through 3 modes on every one of their 4 buttons, which means you need to see them in order to make sure you have them set the same. I had one MTM that would clip and reboot and the setting of the HPF would reset back to 50Hz even if I had set it to 60Hz.
I think if anyone is looking at either one you can't go wrong with the quality in sound, very solidly built. but if it were me I'd save the money and buy the cheaper micros and have another pair of speakers to A/B to . Use the money toward a nice preamp or something. Go out to dinner. :)
I almost forgot to mention one other cool aspect of the micros. They are Bluetooth but that's not the best part...... They can play Bluetooth AND wired audio at the same time! No need to press any buttons to switch. Very cool.
...The MTMs 'seem tempting', But I live in an apartment building & Bought the Micro's & WOW, What a 'pleasant surprise' they are!...So instead of 1 set of MTM's, I can grab ANOTHER set of Micro's, For my other room & Pair them up with my Edifiers through a dual audio out source!, HAH!...
How bad (or good) is the bluetooth latency?
@@irla_nessy I think it’s as good as modern day bluetooth can be. Just fine for me
Thanks bro. I'll go for the micro. So I can play a song on micro from bt and jam on it with a guitar
This helped me a lot, think I'll get the micros to pair with my krks. Thanks
iLoud MTM is recorded WITHOUT the room correction engaged! If you want to check how effective MTM's room correction is check out this video: czcams.com/video/jFyK_yxRi6o/video.html
> 09:22 < Frequency Response Graphs
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You should have put the original music in this comparison
Literally just bought the MTM's today. Can't wait to get them. It was because of this video is what made me want to get them even more, thanks for this!!
How are they
@@ChrisKeyman Surprisingly they sound great. Once you calibrate them to your room, you'll find that the magic is in the mid range frequencies. The highs aren't to bright like my KRK V6's, but your mixes will translate very well in all listening peripherals. And the bass response on here is amazing. I don't know how IK Multimedia did it, but it really sounds like they have a sub in them. Definitely a great investment for the price. I do have to say that when you try to push the volume to high, it will automatically mute the speaker if your pushing the volume to loud and I think that's owed to the built in DSP. Overall I love em.
In the US, the Micro is $300/pair and the MTM is $700/pair. I understand the idea of diminishing returns, but for more than double the price AND extra desk space lost, I'm not sure I can justify the MTM. Shame there are no retailers to audition these at, but thank you for another outstanding video! Just saved me $400 on the MTMs.
This video is definitely not the best for advertising the new MTM. However you can clearly hear the difference on Man on Fire and MTM sounds definitely better.
Mtm is a world of difrance plus can help turn a bad room into a decent mixing space with its arc tunning. I have both amd love both but this vid is not doing the mtm justice.
Micros don't have ARC (room calibration). Can use Sonarworks or any other 3rd-party solution though, but it's not the same as all-in-one package of MTM.
Honestly I can't find a big difference between them. Both sounds good.
They're both great speakers but, owning both, there's a marked difference between them. The MTMs are fully usable as production monitors: the range is better, they're 'flatter', the textures of sounds are clearer, and there's much better definition in the sense of left-right width and the illusion of depth. If you were just buying for listening, the iLoud Micros are fantastic but if you want something even better and/or produce music, the MTMs are easily worth the extra money.
@@joechapman8208 I have 2 amazing sets ofmonitors, but I am looking for a small monitor get a different perspective being small, maybe to pickup something different that they can offer or maybe to reassure balance or something else..and I did not listen the Ilouds, but I wonder which one would be better for that purpose
@@bluematrix5001 Hard to say, because these don't sound like small monitors. When playing a big mix, they sound a lot like my big monitors, so they're not useful for getting that different perspective: "How will this mix translate to lesser consumer speakers?" and so on. These really are highly capable monitors, and the draw is that they're portable rather than second-opinion devices. I had the first iLoud mini monitors too, and they were great but the MTMs are a massive step up where I would be totally confident that a mix on them is good.
The room-correction system is ARC. Because of the discount I have from buying the hardware, I bought the full software ARC 3 too so that I could calibrate my non-portable monitors versus the room -- also, I was curious to see how good the built-in ARC was, since it uses fewer measurements than the software. The software one identified a small dip in the room response at 100Hz and a slight issue at about 400Hz beyond what the speakers' own ARC picked up but it was remarkably good. I wouldn't have any concerns about relying on the iLouds when travelling with headphones as a check, but of course having the full ARC software does give me that extra peace of mind.
If you want a different perspective, you might be better off getting a cheap set of PC speakers. These are all about portability and nothing else; you close your eyes and you don't know that it's not a 7" nearfield.
@@joechapman8208 thank you that is exactly what I wanted to know, I understand the portability factor and that is great... but I imagine all what I should know about the Mix I can tell thru my DD 8C and my Amphions.... so maybe I should look for a cool computer speaker. thanks
@@bluematrix5001 Yeah, exactly. Go for a little set of £20 Logitechs or something, and you'll get an idea of how your average phone/laptop/Echo listener is going to hear it. Maybe just playing it through the TV's speakers would be enough, to get the generic consumer hardware sound? I tend to rely on playing mixes through cheap earbuds and my phone, since the DAC on my phone isn't fantastic.
Due to their size Micros seem to overhype compression and sound weird at low mids imho. But in the end it’s all a matter of getting used to and knowing your sound source of choice. It’s all relative. They are a great option for the price. MTMs are a truly pro set no doubt. Good job IK team!
I’m using the iloud micro with Sonarworks software. Works great! Very accurate.
What does that software do? Improve the sound quality? :)
@@lifeevent88 Sonarworks does room correction by measuring your room and creating a EQ curve to help flatten your studio monitor’s frequency response.
I checked them side to side in a store and while mtms are better at certain things I still prefer small ilouds. They feel more balanced to me and are MUCH smaller and MUCH lighter. Oh and MUCH cheaper. However if you’re picking speakers just for listening and enjoyment - grab mtms they’re super fun especially at 40hz switch. Overall those 2 soeakers sound like a completely different set of speakers to me - so choose wisely
I have both of these. Amazing speakers. They still have that "small sound", but I recommend them fully. Especially the MTMs. Mixing: no problem. Mastering maybe a push but the detail on the bass in the MTMs when calibrated is insane for the price point. They blew my Eris E8s out of the water in every way apart from raw power but still go loud enough for mixing
Small sound, yes. By lowering the frequencies at 2100Hz with an EQ (-4dB, Q Factor 3,5) you can take off the boxy, ""cheap"" sounding of both. I think it's a side effect of the small plastic housing. After playing a bit with the typical 150Hz bumb the micro sound exactly like big ADAM T7V, except for the minimal less deep sub bass - but the iLouds even have better, more precise mids.
Does the mtm worth the extra money of the micro's?
@@MementoDubstep they're just about worth it. Certainly a step up from the micro's. If you can get them at a reduced price, they're a great buy.
Digital Stereophony, thank you so much for all the comparisons!
Menos mal alguien que sube una comparación real... Muchas gracias! ;)
This is what i wanted to see. Its too bad your Valuable video was found after scrolling through many videos of this exact speaker comparison pair. Thank you so much for making this video.
Excellent review. Your reviews are simply the best. I have the iLoud Micro and wanted to buy the iLoud MTM MKll too. Based on what I hear in this review, it seems like the difference in sound quality between the two (in this case the MTM MKl), is not that exceptional big. The micro cost about USD 350 a pair and the MTM MKll about USD 800 a pair. Please let me know if what I hear is correct.
The iloud micro makes me laugh by myself. Whatafa!? what a sound it's got! Amazing.
Any audio being played suddenly from the MTM’s, *goosebumps*
i had both in my small studio setup, basically a corner of my living room, far from ideal conditions,
make retrowave style music, the difference between the two for me was huge, clarity/depth/imaging of the MTMs was very impressive, the micro monitors were great as well but didn't have the same detail or punch, there is of course quite a big price difference, the calibration makes a nice difference as well
i've kept the MTMs, although i'm still interested in testing out some Genelecs in my setup
MTM are to loud and boomie, The micro are more balanced for critical listening mixing or work with. MTM I definitely will use for just listen music and the micro for the studio. Great comparison.
I wish CZcams would allow uploading of lossless music.
@Ime Prezime why not?
The difference (most) is the MTM cost more than twice Micro (at least in my country). For the very similar sound quality in most songs genre. But, even your workspace is non acoustic treatment, MTM still sounds very good, thx too that arc microphone..
Can you do a test with EVE Audio SC203?
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Why is the source track louder than the comparing monitors? You can't make an accurate judgement when any of the samples is noticably louder in gain than the rest.
I like my iloud micro monitors a lot. Sometimes there’s a woofy sound in the low end that isn’t good. I also don’t like the direction of the on/off switch on the back of the left speaker, but it sounds like it’s better than the MTM’s on off switch situation. Judging from the frequency response chart, the MTM’s have more bass extension, which is a plus.
I can only hear 1 difference which is that the MTMs actually added what the micros lacked which was a “wider soundstage”. Micros can get “compressed”.
Thanks for making this video and taking the time to do this. Whats the title of the track for DEEP?
Which would you recommend as pc speakers for casual listening/gaming and not producing/mixing? Are the MTMs worth the extra costs or should the micros be enough?
If you have the $ than MTM superior monitor worth its price. But if the money is tight than Micro will do the job very well for much less.
The Micros keep impressing me when compared to everything else. Just for pleasure listening.
May I know which speaker will sound better when playing at low volume? For around 55dbs at 1 m distance?
Hmmm... Is the MTM iLoud calibrated here? If so, as good as it sounds, I can't recommend spending such a vast difference to get the new ones. Lovely comparison, and thanks for being the only CZcamsr that does these detail comparisons.
Is it possible for you to compare the MTMs to the LSR 305/306?, MTM vs Genelecs/Kali 8In? Also, is it possible for you to compare the Fluance Ai40 and Ai60 hi-fi speakers to low-end monitors like KRK Rokit 5s and JBL LSR305s? The Fluance is a cheap hi-fi, non-ported system with a measured freq response seems very flat, at +-3db if I'm not mistaken. Would really like to see how they stack up against professional studio monitors. Thanks
Sometimes I can hear more surround sound with MTM. But the difference is quite hard to catch. I don't know why but it is more clear in another comparison by PianoManChuck. Good job though. Thank you.
so if I want a small speaker to just have a reference in small speakers specially for balance which one is better? I own 2 very great and high end , very expensive monitors
The MTM definetlly sound better to me but not by a whole lot. The bass is a touch stronger but above all the Micros seem to have this slight boxyness in the mids - can't really come up with a better way of describing it but that's what I can hear. Anyone else?
Reamp your verses through the micros, and reamp your choruses through the MTMs! 🤣
Both sounded great, but definitely lower bass and a bit of a wider sound to the MTMs. Honestly, for the money, the Micros are probably the better buy, but it is nice that they have a "higher echelon" coveres with the MTMs.
Thanks to the EQ Calibration in MTM’s, gotta keep that mic safe lol
Mtm has a better sense of punch.
Mtm has a better mid- to low-end resolution.
Mm speaker is heard by a slight clump in the middle range.
But considering the price, mm is worth enough.
I have both... The biggest difference to me is the stereo imaging of the MTM is MUCH better. If you usually only work in mono then I would say just go w/ micro, but if you do need stereo imaging a lot of details get lost w/ them.
Did you use the calibration feature? If not it would be really nice to get a comparison of MTM speakers with and without calibration.
No, calibration was not engaged. There will be separate comparison for that
@@DSAUDIOreview Thanks, looking forward to that!
Best small budget speakers around - iLoud Micro
budget? not really. best small? yes
Don't mind me, I'm just here to listen to the kick-ass example music.
I'm not understanding this comparison concept, because my headphones are $14 headphones and I can hear the difference in the frequency response of all sound sources in this video ......
the lower mids sound a bit more full on the mtm and have tamed that slightly boxy quality that i've found on the micro (around the 1k ish area?). I've always felt the mids to be slightly off for that reason when listening to mine. That alone makes me want to try out the mtms. Bass also seems to extend a bit more. I'm still impressed what the micros can do though and is hands down the best in it's size. also how much more headroom do the mtms have? (edit: saw the freq response graphs at the end and yea that's confirmed).
Great comparison, best audio channel on youtube, thanx👍
The smaller iloud sounds a bit boxy and (too) midrangy in comparison and lacks air and sparkle in the treble.
Would love to hear how the MTM’s would compare to Neumann kh80 dsp🤔
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MTM vs KH80 vs KH120 vs Micro.
MrBazsi888
I’ve owned the kh120, well built and decent sounding but has a mildly u-shaped sound even though it measures very flat on-axis and has good dispersion. Here’s a link to a comparison between kh120 and it’s three way big brother kh310.
The kh80 I heard in a store’s studio room and it sounded very neutral but a bit mid-forward, but the placement was too high so it maybe was caused by that.
But it sounded definetely better than genelec 8020 and yamaha hs7 that were in the same room.
czcams.com/video/mnnzHVK2vfY/video.html
MrBazsi888
So I b(r)ought the kh80 to my reherseal space for testing. Very neutral and pleasant sounding, in a whole different league compared to the iloud micro which I also own. The Iloud can compete in bass extension but it’s more flabby, hard to distinguish bass lines. The impressive bass extension on the iloud is more for entertainment and field work than serious listening or studio work.
My initial impression of the kh80 being a bit mid-forward remains, one can hear it clearly on mid-centric guitar records like Kyuss and Queens of the stone age. And it seems to lack a bit of treble sparkle, cymbals could sound a bit more metallic and airy, but think this is easily fixed by minor eq:ing and it could also be an artefact of my overly damped room.
But after one day of listening I’m very pleased with the sound and it measures more flat on the same spot than the iloud micro.
Too bad they didn’t have the iloud MTM for comparison.
Would recommend to a friend👍
@@celinean1 I found kh310 overrated and sold them for Amphion Two18s, and later upgraded to Dutch & Dutch 8Cs.
Ezra Shanti
Dutch & Dutch is on the top of my list, but my listening space now doesn’t allow for such big monitors and can’t have speakers playing that low bcause of neighbours😃👍
Waiting for the great battle between iloud mtm vs mackie mr524
Excellent reviews
Just ordered the micro’s today 😁
How are they
@@ChrisKeyman very good indeed. I bought them for my Prologue 8 and they sound great but I do notice that in the low registers of some patches the ilouds don’t have the bass response. So the very low end will just disappear but I think a lot of monitors would respond the same on a synth.
I have Iloud Micro, but I listened to this test in Sennheiser HD 650 to catch the difference. But I did not hear this difference much. In MTM, a little more bottom and a little more top, but this is not enough for the difference in price in half.
The room calibration makes the break point. They sound vastly different then.
@@cuerex8580 really ?
What the full name of the first track??? WHo knows?
Finally! Thank you!
2:25 Here iLoud MTM has muddy bass.
But It can be fixed
они не использовали коррекцию, алло
is this without using the mtm in calibrated mode?
Can u test play Barefoot footprint 03 vs iLouds 🤠
Did you run the calibration on the MTMs for this video? What mic did you use? Sorry if you answered these questions earlier!
Nice comparison!!
Great compare! Thank you!!
Both great.
Dude MTM have just slightly elevated bass and treble (bass bit more than treble)
Guys wait for the calibrated video. The mtm's will sound entirely different
1. reference: eve audio sc 208
master hearing
2. reference: iloud micro
mixing, recording
that's my next step after my jbl 305 left crashed after 5 years.....there is a clip on youtube showing 305 vs micro....they sound similar, but the micro is basstard as far as i checked here all the vids. only thing i don't like on the micros is mini jack input instead of jack and the build quality probably not that sexy ?
not only the iloud sounds more tight, but also much joyable & fun. MTM sounds a bit out of control. both needs a dsp subwoofer in the long run. original recording has waaay more bottom end and on both model's sub-50hz territory is missing.
was an hardware calibration used in this comparison?
No, calibration was disabled. There will be separate video comparing calibrated and non calibrated sound
Did you use the room correction?
No, correction was not used. There will be separate video for that
For a slightly bigger box, you could get the KH80 on SALE plus a calibrated mic like umik-1 - and REW. Doing your own EQ and measurements will teach you a lot about speaker-room interaction. Optimum Placement and Room Treatment etc. As your acoustics knowledge grows, these speakers will only get better with future optimizations on your part.
MTM is iLoud with better bass and more refined treble? iLoud + sub a better upgrade path for untreated room?
First of all, they’re both iLoud. One is iLoud MM and the other is iLoud MTM. The MTM would be better in an untreated room due to room correction; and neither has a built in sub output so you should have a dac or interface or something to hook these + the sub into
Good comparison.
Iloud mtm costs more than iloud micro + jbl 305 ..
iLoud MTM vs Presonus E44
Jak się nie mylę to już dobrze znasz MTM i Micro. Duża jest różnica? Warto płacić 3x za MTM? Duży to przeskok dźwiękowy?
*Gdybys mial np 2200 zł to kupiłbys iLoud Micro (za 1200zl) czy odłożył kolejne 700 zł i kupił MTM -bo warto? :)
both the mtm and micro sound like they're missing so much mid/side frequencies. up and down they seem adequate but nowhere close to sounding "full".
Just the non linearities of the H6 mics ?
E5 XT vs Genelec 8020 D!!
lol. im listening to this through my micros 😆
no wonder they sound almost the same, look at their response graph lol
I loud MTM is superior
i prefer the original track.
Let's compare MTM and JBL LSR305
Which speakers are blured one?
Who hisses less?
They both have equal amount of hiss. Hiss level is rather low for active monitor
micro has zero bass
at last