Should We Pursue Spiritual Gifts?

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  • Don't Pursue Spiritual Gifts?

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  • @texrex3
    @texrex3 Před 7 měsíci +30

    They’re gifts. Not wages or a debt owed. They’re gifts! It’s common sense! Pursuit is to make or entice someone to give you something or obey your command. It’s a gift! A gift! A present! Something unexpected but you’re grateful to have. Gifts!!

    • @gizmetdoralopez6806
      @gizmetdoralopez6806 Před 7 měsíci +6

      @texrex3 I like your analogy --- that they are not 'wages or a debt owed'. That does so well emphasize why they are to be earnestly desired, rather than pursued. One does not pursue gifts since the giving is at the discretion of the giver!
      Of course God wants us to pursue LOVE --- God is love and the first and second Commandments admonish us to love the Lord AND our neighbors. Those two Commandments are dependent on our pursuit, our efforts. The 'gifts' are at the discretion of God, The Holy Spirit!
      I am glad that Corey has clarified this as I remember when I used to attend a Pentecostal Church, they always emphasized the pursuit of the gifts, and that failure to obtain those gifts was indicative of your spiritual failure.

    • @johngregory4801
      @johngregory4801 Před 7 měsíci +2

      What's the Greek word translated "gifts" here? Do you know?
      Ooh, the explanation according to the Greek has been taken down. "Shocking". BTW, I've walked in every one of these gifts for almost four decades. I know several others who use them more and better than I, but I also know that just means they're more experienced in letting Holy Ghost have his way through them. No one is more or less anointed than anyone else once they've received the baptism of the Holy Ghost...
      There's only levels of submission to him.

    • @Three721
      @Three721 Před 7 měsíci +1

      To pursue is not a bad word/thing it’s actually in the Bible as something positive in several verses.

    • @johngregory4801
      @johngregory4801 Před 7 měsíci

      @hayeschrist1 You didn't resist it, and that left the Ghost free to manifest himself through you in tongues. He won't give us anything that scares us. I was demon possessed for almost four years, the result of messing around with witchcraft. Those devils spoke through me often, and I felt like death had taken me over. After that, the thought of letting ANY spirit speak through me terrified me, even though I wanted to speak in tongues because it builds us up in our faith. So....
      One night as I was worshipping my Father to "Because Of Who You Are", I spoke in tongues while I was lost in Papa's presence. Unlike when devils spoke through me, I felt amazingly CLEAN and PURE, God's holy river flowing up from my belly just as Jesus said it would.
      That was June or July of 1986.

  • @alixjean-tg8fu
    @alixjean-tg8fu Před 7 měsíci +8

    Ahhh it doesn't say pursue gifts. It says pursue Love but they didn't and wouldn't say that. It says to desire gifts. desiring it doesn't mean to pursue it

  • @Sojournerofgod2023
    @Sojournerofgod2023 Před 7 měsíci +11

    It’s crazy how so many people read it to say pursue gifts. It’s in black and white but you have to read that passage with an agenda or a presupposition. It’s sad that even the scholars are doing too

  • @jesusforjapan8124
    @jesusforjapan8124 Před 7 měsíci +6

    As a new christian coming into this world and seeing the division among the gifts is crazy. So i asked God firmly, are the gifts real or not show me how to desire spiritual gifts. And sure enough He answered...they are real. Crazy how witchcraft copies the spiritual gifts of the bible but christians reject the gifts🤦‍♂️

    • @lukansiala293
      @lukansiala293 Před 7 měsíci +3

      Hey can you give some examples of that, im curious about it ?

    • @muppetonmeds
      @muppetonmeds Před 7 měsíci

      @@lukansiala293 Are you asking about how the devil copies God's gifts or are you asking something else?

    • @tomtemple69
      @tomtemple69 Před 7 měsíci +1

      i don't even need to read the Bible anymore, I'll just ask God for the answer to everything like u

    • @joelcarter2535
      @joelcarter2535 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@tomtemple69 😅 like right

  • @tanyatomasi587
    @tanyatomasi587 Před 7 měsíci +2

    I’ve read this scripture so many times and yet never questioned the exact wording of it when sitting under the teaching that we must pursue spiritual gifts.
    Thank you so much for sharing your gift of teaching which helps us to think more clearly about what the text is actually saying. God bless you.

  • @SalvationSoulBeautiful
    @SalvationSoulBeautiful Před 7 měsíci +1

    Amen I appreciate you brother Corey thank you for explaining this God bless you and your family ❤

  • @RebeccaAdrienne
    @RebeccaAdrienne Před 7 měsíci +1

    Thank you, Corey. All of your videos are such a blessing.

  • @VanceLambert
    @VanceLambert Před 7 měsíci +3

    This is so good.. I was taught the opposite for years. I felt “less than” because I didn’t have those gifts. So, I pursued Love, which all of us can do. It’s relieving to know this. That was years ago, but I remember that false teaching vividly.

  • @shellybailey7762
    @shellybailey7762 Před 7 měsíci +2

    To pursue spiritual gifts is likely driven by the false will of the fleshly ego. Anything forced by our will is ill gotten. Forced and contrived, same as witchcraft and idolatry. Pursue The Love of Christ first and all these things will be added to you ❤

  • @JohnSmith-dk7th
    @JohnSmith-dk7th Před 7 měsíci +3

    Thanks Corey for getting your message across without screaming and hollering and calling people liars

  • @bmac7639
    @bmac7639 Před 7 měsíci +5

    salvation or spiritual gifts
    which one carries more weight?
    Salvation

    • @tomtemple69
      @tomtemple69 Před 7 měsíci +1

      they pay lip service to Jesus and want to have the showy gifts so they can appear and feel spiritual....
      they never ask for teaching or administration or helping....

  • @deniemarie5010
    @deniemarie5010 Před 7 měsíci

    Excellent teaching. Thank you.

  • @calvingoodloe7174
    @calvingoodloe7174 Před 7 měsíci +6

    1 cor: 12-31 Paul said but covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way,which is love.

    • @joelcarter2535
      @joelcarter2535 Před 2 měsíci

      But they won't ever bring that verse out 🥴

  • @alkeuscampbell9295
    @alkeuscampbell9295 Před 7 měsíci +2

    1Co 14 teaches us to follow charity with God and desires spiritual gifts. Go after God with your full heart, and then he will give you the gifts for edification of the church.

  • @D.W.C935
    @D.W.C935 Před 7 měsíci +6

    If You Pursue Spiritual Gifts Where's Room for The Scripture?

    • @johnmarshk
      @johnmarshk Před 7 měsíci +1

      Amen

    • @tomtemple69
      @tomtemple69 Před 7 měsíci

      That's what almost always happens

    • @D.W.C935
      @D.W.C935 Před 7 měsíci +4

      @tomtemple69 The problem is people choose To pursue Spiritual Gifts over Reading The Word of God.

    • @johnmarshk
      @johnmarshk Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@D.W.C935 amen×2

    • @johngregory4801
      @johngregory4801 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@D.W.C935The Word of God and the pneumatikos work together. Without pneumatikos, you can't understand the Word. Remember, in describing the gifts written of here in 1 Corinthians 12 is phanerosis, or the proof of the spirit working in our lives

  • @samuelflores1419
    @samuelflores1419 Před 7 měsíci

    The difference between reading scriptures in context and Not! God bless you brother and your ministry! To God be All the Glory!

  • @Anna-yw8yg
    @Anna-yw8yg Před 5 měsíci

    Amen! Thank you ❤

  • @user-zt7ri5oj5i
    @user-zt7ri5oj5i Před 7 měsíci +2

    Perfectly stated brother!!!❤❤❤ God bless.

  • @BADDMIXX
    @BADDMIXX Před 7 měsíci +1

    Amen Brother Corey!

    • @BADDMIXX
      @BADDMIXX Před 7 měsíci

      The Holy Spirit IS THE GIFT!

  • @tomtemple69
    @tomtemple69 Před 7 měsíci +2

    "I'll go with my interpretation, eisegesis and misinterpretation over you"

  • @ChristsSheep
    @ChristsSheep Před 7 měsíci +2

    I truly believe God knew exactly what He was doing when writing scripture. To test if you used it for your teachings or God teachings. I can hear God now on judgement day:”I DIDN’T SAY THAT!” lol

  • @HeyYou992
    @HeyYou992 Před 7 měsíci +2

    This particular issue is almost secondary. What we've seen from the modern Charismatic movement is not pursuit or desire of spiritual gifts, but fraudulent spiritual gifts.

    • @smartchristians
      @smartchristians  Před 7 měsíci +4

      I hear what you are saying, but when we look at what Paul was admonishing them for was a fraudulent and ignorant use of the Spirit that was because of the their desire to be something special and then causing them to "Pursue" these gifts instead of "Love". I think that's what we see today as well

    • @HeyYou992
      @HeyYou992 Před 7 měsíci

      @@smartchristians Makes sense.

  • @patrickbrowne4606
    @patrickbrowne4606 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Amen.

  • @derickmcwilliams8089
    @derickmcwilliams8089 Před 4 měsíci

    I cant find my original post. 1 Corinthians 14:1 says, "Pursue love, and earnestly desire the spiritual gifts, especially that you may prophesy". You could argue that the verbs "pursue" and "desire" have slightly different meaning. But let's just use a little common sense here, Paul is just using Hierarchy to stress a point. So I think a reasonable person would say Paul gave us the green light to "desire" spiritual gifts. And as Paul ranks it, we should actively make sure we GO after LOVE. Love you man!

  • @joelcarter2535
    @joelcarter2535 Před 2 měsíci

    I used to follow kap chatfield until i was scrolling through his page one time, and it was just full of videos that you would see on one of the four "demon slayers" channels 😂

  • @mariebright6985
    @mariebright6985 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Shalom man of God and many blessings to you and to your beautiful wife and families (personal/ministries).
    I do not come against what you have shared.
    I get it and you are right. The Word states plainly that we are to follow (pursue) love.
    1 Corinthians 14:1 says, "Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy."
    Apostle Paul stress the importance of this because of what he had shared in the chapter prior (chapter 13), which is the chapter about having love as the foundation of one's walk with Christ.
    It is love that keeps us in divine order, especially when operating in The Most High's gifts. So we are to desire them as the scripture says. To desire spiritual gifts means to set one's heart on these gifts. We are suppose to have a sincere appetite for them, because they are a part of this walk in The LORD. The Messiah Jesus Christ operated in them when He was in the earth, and we have the benefit to operate in them.
    Love teaches us to respect the holy things of The Most High God. These gifts are holy and they are not to be mishandled and abused.
    When a believer is walking in the love of The Most High God, that believer will steward the gifts with an authentic reverence for Him. True believers will not take the gifts for granted when love is genuinely present in their walk. This is why it is important for believers to have a real presence of The Most High's love in their walk. This will unveil the actual fruit they are operating in when utilizing the gifts of The Most High. Because love teaches us how to handle the value of the human soul with real attention and care, along with His holy things.
    This is why Simon the sorcerer's desire was in error.
    He wanted these gifts without a real covenant relationship with The Most High God. And it takes His love to build that kind of covenant relationship. So Simon's spirit was in error and he was obsessed with power and status. And he wanted to obtain a certain sense of importance. And spirituals gifts are not designed to cater to that kind of heart condition. It is that kind of heart condition that corrupts the function of the gifts.
    So I appreciate you for bringing up this issue, because it deserves clarity. Because we are suppose to have a pure appetite and desire for spiritual gifts, but it is unwise to operate in them without first being grounded and rooted in love.
    God Bless you and Shalom unto you and to your beautiful wife and families.

    • @msmichelle2196
      @msmichelle2196 Před 5 měsíci

      Amen...very potent statement...it's clear as we are in the last days many ppl in the church crave the signs, gifts etc but it's clear they don't read the Bible, hunger the Word etc or anything God Almighty desires so it truly shows that the gifts have been used for recognition

  • @OfficialEmekaOrji
    @OfficialEmekaOrji Před 7 měsíci +3

    Sir, I humbly disagree with you, the evidence of desire is pursuit, yes the more excellent way is love, but when you look up the greek word for the word desire it is a word zeloo, one of the meanings you will find the word 'pursue', so it is not wrong to pursue spiritual gifts, but more so pursue love, as a heart of love will desire and pursue spiritual gifts in order to be equipped adequately for the benefit of others the body of Christ. It is God who decides which of the gifts He would dispense to each one but for the desire to be there, then it means in order to get you also have to pursue.
    Shalom

    • @smartchristians
      @smartchristians  Před 7 měsíci

      I cannot find one instance of ζηλοῦτε to mean pursue. It means to desire, to long for, eagerly aspire. But not to go after. It changes the meaning and it is the reason why so many are disappointed because they pursue something they shouldn't. Let's not be guilty of changing the meaning of words to suit our feelings.

    • @robertguidry2168
      @robertguidry2168 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@smartchristians What lexicon do you use? BDAG describes a positive and intense interest. It also means to be zealous. I don't know about you, but being zealous rarely indicates passive desire. Also, this word also means jealousy, especially a jealousy that provokes to action. Also Paul uses parallel words. He isn't saying pursue love, but instead of pursuing love you should only desire the gifts. Instead, he seems to be saying that pursuing love is priority over pursuing spiritual gifts. It's not either/or it is getting your priorities straight.

  • @igdudleybsd
    @igdudleybsd Před 7 měsíci

    1Co 14:1 Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy.
    Please define what "desire" means in the greek in this scripture. Let the scripture stand on its on. Read the entire definition below.
    G2206
    Original: ζηλόω
    Transliteration: zēloō
    Phonetic: dzay-lo'-o
    Thayer Definition:
    to burn with zeal
    to be heated or to boil with envy, hatred, anger
    in a good sense, to be zealous in the pursuit of good
    to desire earnestly, pursue
    to desire one earnestly, to strive after, busy one's self about him
    to exert one's self for one (that he may not be torn from me)
    to be the object of the zeal of others, to be zealously sought after
    to envy
    Please intepret this on your own and see what it says. I do agree that scripturally Love is what we are to follow after but you can clearly see how one would say pursue from the word desire in this scripture.

  • @ifeifesi
    @ifeifesi Před 7 měsíci +1

    It strikes me that Isaiah Saldivar lies every time he speaks about the bible 🤦🏿‍♀️🤦🏿‍♀️🤦🏿‍♀️

  • @joshuaheverly2775
    @joshuaheverly2775 Před 7 měsíci

    Can you please check out Dan mohler and give me your honest thoughts on his teachings?

  • @WyntrWxlfStudios
    @WyntrWxlfStudios Před 7 měsíci +1

    I wonder whether pursuit or "desire" has become lust for spiritual things?

    • @msmichelle2196
      @msmichelle2196 Před 5 měsíci

      It's easy to see that many ppls intent is wrong because a vast majority fail to use anything they have for the benefit of God Almighty Kingdom

  • @Jawond34
    @Jawond34 Před 7 měsíci +4

    we should pursue God and the gifts so i would disagree with you in this . we should desire the gifts

    • @marktravis5162
      @marktravis5162 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Yeah we should as the apostle Paul literally says to do so, and you should desire what’s not just going to be beneficial for yourself in spiritual growth but for others

    • @tomtemple69
      @tomtemple69 Před 7 měsíci

      where does it say desire the gifts???

    • @marktravis5162
      @marktravis5162 Před 7 měsíci

      @@tomtemple69 The first verse of 1 Corinthians 14

  • @thematrix3663
    @thematrix3663 Před 7 měsíci

    We have all been granted one gift. What they are referring to is manifestations of the Holy Spirit.

    • @RabbiMurray
      @RabbiMurray Před 7 měsíci

      The Holy Spirit is everywhere.

  • @gideonboots1008
    @gideonboots1008 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Just because one follows the instructions even as you say to DESIRE spiritual gifts that doesn't follow that the one who DESIRES spiritual gifts is of the Simon the sorcerer ilk.. one is instructed to desire those gifts or things of the Spirit and to do all for the glory of God..SO.. if one desires spiritual gifts for the glory of God then God's will is being obeyed..I wholly disagree❤

    • @shellybailey7762
      @shellybailey7762 Před 7 měsíci +1

      To pursue is to actively seek something, to desire is to be lead by the Holy Spirit. The former being willful and ego driven in which case you could easily be deceived, the later being patient in the Spirit and allowing God to reveal it to you. ❤

    • @gideonboots1008
      @gideonboots1008 Před 7 měsíci

      @@shellybailey7762
      I fully understood the brothers exegesis regarding pursuing and desiring..I stand by my point. 🙏🏿

  • @user-wh1ib9wu2l
    @user-wh1ib9wu2l Před 7 měsíci

    The problem with the charismatic movement is not their faith and pursuit of prophecy. The problem is that they have left (not all) the wisdom and blueprint of the word and has reaped problems that the word it’s self predicted. For example tounges. Paul recommends that it’s better to have an interpreter so that you don’t appear crazy, and yet charismatic appear crazy because they neglected that part. we should pursue the gifts of course with the goal of Love not to be seen and exalted but to serve effectively. I don’t think Cory is right dividing the word, he’s showing his bias.

  • @jonlannister345
    @jonlannister345 Před 7 měsíci

    Is it sinful to be one of these modern magicians who tells people right away that it's all just a trick and it's consciously for entertainment rather than deception?

  • @tomtemple69
    @tomtemple69 Před 7 měsíci

    So many twistings of 1 Corinthians 14 1, it doesn't even say gifts in that verse at all, no mention of charismata anywhere in that verse

    • @johngregory4801
      @johngregory4801 Před 7 měsíci +1

      It literally says to desire what chapter 12speaks of, the pneumatikos gifts of the Spirit, which are also called the phanerosis or manifestation of the Spirit in 12:7. Paul couldn't have been clearer. When the Spirit is present, he will work through whoever will let him use them. If you don't desire him to work Jesus' works through you, he's a gentleman...
      He'll give you what you want - nothing.

    • @johngregory4801
      @johngregory4801 Před 7 měsíci

      It literally says to desire what chapter 12 speaks of, the pneumatikos gifts of the Spirit, which are also called the phanerosis or manifestation of the Spirit in 12:7. Paul couldn't have been clearer. When the Spirit is present, he will work through whoever will let him use them. If you don't desire him to work Jesus' works through you, he's a gentleman...
      He'll give you what you want - nothing.

    • @tomtemple69
      @tomtemple69 Před 7 měsíci

      @@johngregory4801 πνευματικά,
      pneumatika
      The word for gift is charismata, that word is nowhere in this entire chapter
      Why can't you stay in the context instead of going to a different context?

    • @johngregory4801
      @johngregory4801 Před 7 měsíci

      @@tomtemple69 Interesting. The text uses charismata in 1 Corinthians 12:4, 9, 28, 30 and 31. Funny thing is that Paul uses charismata in these verses under the heading "Now concerning pneumatikos" in 12:1, saying that everything he's writing about is about the phanerosis of the Spirit. So, when he says "Follow after charity, and desire pneumatikos, but rather that ye may prophesy" in 14:1, he's telling us to desire the charismata gifts of chapter 12 as part of a life lived by covenant love (agape).
      Why can't you follow the context? Who told you that pneumatikos in 14:1 had nothing to do with what Paul used an entire chapter to describe before telling us that all must flow through agape?
      smh

    • @tomtemple69
      @tomtemple69 Před 7 měsíci

      @@johngregory4801 ok so pneumatikas means the gifts(inferred), it still doesn't change anything Corey said, it does not say pursue the gifts

  • @user-wh1ib9wu2l
    @user-wh1ib9wu2l Před 7 měsíci +2

    Cory- your exegesis reveals a strong bias, instead of balancing the word, which the word does already. I’m afraid your attacking a a straw man. Your Simon the sorcerer example was very off. Simon was never born again.
    The scriptures calls us to pursue the gifts and has given us a standard of his word that we can pursue them wisely. Your completely off brother. The scriptures also calls us to pursue prophesy. The word of God gave us a blueprint on how to pursue them effectively.
    3. Of course we should pursue love that the ultimate point. However, don’t say we shouldn’t pursue the gifts. I thousand disagree with you brother. Please preach all scripture not just some scripture.

    • @smartchristians
      @smartchristians  Před 7 měsíci

      You said scripture calls us to pursue the gifts yet you don’t provide a scripture that says to pursue the gifts

    • @tomtemple69
      @tomtemple69 Před 7 měsíci

      lets see the Bible verse in context to prove that(hint: you can't because it doesn't say that)
      Preach all scripture, not your opinions and misinterpretation
      you are BLATANTLY adding to the text and twisting words