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    0:33 slavery affected my family
    4:27 racism is the main cause of poverty among black people in the USA
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  • @PrettyBrownEyes718
    @PrettyBrownEyes718 Před rokem +16966

    Always wanted to hear this conversation, but without a black American woman there you're missing a significant perspective. The impact of American slavery and everything else (systemic racism, welfare system, etc) on the black American woman is profound.

    • @nana8135
      @nana8135 Před rokem +619

      thank YOU

    • @OTB2002
      @OTB2002 Před rokem

      Why are Africans doing better in America compared to black Americans?

    • @lexvt3551
      @lexvt3551 Před rokem +409

      Exactly what I was thinking

    • @gillianmurphy2111
      @gillianmurphy2111 Před rokem +998

      I can't believe they couldn't find a black American woman to speak on this topic. Swing and a miss Jubilee.

    • @mizmimi54321
      @mizmimi54321 Před rokem +695

      NO FOR REAL big fumble on Jubilee when there are countless texts easily available that talk about how Black women are ignored and overlooked in conversations about the Black experience

  • @dylagence443
    @dylagence443 Před 10 měsíci +5249

    We need a African parents vs American parents episode, the chaos that would happen would be insane

  • @KayKashi
    @KayKashi Před 5 měsíci +153

    My girlfriend spent 5 years of her life in prison for a crime she didn’t commit. She’s the sweetest most tender hearted person I know and even tho she has been home for years it still affects her every day. The criminal just systematically targets us and throws us away

    • @saveyourtearsforanotherd4y
      @saveyourtearsforanotherd4y Před 3 měsíci +7

      im so sorry i hope shes doing better

    • @benbowland
      @benbowland Před 3 měsíci +4

      I'm so sorry. I can't even imagine what that does to your spirit

    • @FactsOVERFeelings100
      @FactsOVERFeelings100 Před měsícem +11

      LMFAO STOP THE CAP AND PLAYING THE VICTIM CARD LMFAO They had enough evidence to convince 12 jurors she did commit the crime or she supposedly had no choice but take a plea deal. SELF ACCOUNTABILITY

    • @QyonatheCreator
      @QyonatheCreator Před měsícem

      @@FactsOVERFeelings100Central Park 5 is enough proof for you to eat your words & choke on them. Research before you allow racism to lead you back to ignorance.

    • @petep5207
      @petep5207 Před 24 dny +4

      @@FactsOVERFeelings100 YUP. Definitely a lot of details missing from that story--conveniently.

  • @SlavicAffairs
    @SlavicAffairs Před 2 měsíci +29

    Slavery is an ugly part of history, but it is necessary to note that it is not only a part of Afro-American history, but of world history. White Europeans were slaves to Arabs, Mongols and Turks long before they themselves enslaved others. It is also important to note that four of the five greatest abolitionists were white and that by the time slavery was abolished in the US in 1865 there were approximately 32 million of people living there (27 million of whites, 4 million ob blacks, < a million of others) and now there are 332 million of people. The ratio between fertility rates and the number of immigrants and their share of the total US population from 1860 to now indicates that most of the today's Americans aren't direct descendants of Civil War Era Americans. If I had to give a percentage, I would say that about 20% of Americans can be linked to that time.

    • @EvaMariaHein
      @EvaMariaHein Před 3 dny

      Is it correctly understood that an abolitionist is someone who wants to abolish slavery? How is it remarkable that four out of five abolitionist where White? When one view Black enslaved people as “less than”, why would one listen to what they think about their life?

    • @asiatic_african
      @asiatic_african Před dnem +4

      Nobody went through Chattle slavery like us

    • @richardwilliamsiv3778
      @richardwilliamsiv3778 Před dnem +3

      @@asiatic_africanthat isn’t true. Ancient Romans treated their slaves far worse and they were viewed as personal property. Where is the value in trying to out oppress others? Slavery is bad, it always has been. But it’s a terrible stain on all of human history, and experienced by every race as both slaves and slave owners. Not one race holds a monopoly on oppression.

    • @onielfrancis136
      @onielfrancis136 Před dnem +3

      Roman slavery was nowhere close to slavery in North America. Please do your research.

  • @InternetGirl1093
    @InternetGirl1093 Před rokem +15207

    I appreciate that Elizabeth acknowledged that many Africans see African Americans as just complaining, but realized the nuances that exist on both sides. That was great to hear.

    • @Ten_dai
      @Ten_dai Před rokem

      Mostly because a ton of Africans don't seriously study history in school until uni, if even then,much less the history of the United States and African Americans so the ones who make those type of statements are usually doing it from a place of ignorance. Often it takes them decades of lining in the US to realize certain things. Others know what to expect but choose to deal with racism like a sort of 'immigrant tax', the price for the American dream.

    • @twistedbliss58
      @twistedbliss58 Před rokem +497

      Because they are, very few people today have had their lives affected by slavery

    • @adrianna5378
      @adrianna5378 Před rokem +940

      @@twistedbliss58 Definitely segregation though. It wasn’t that long ago.

    • @KimmyLL1890
      @KimmyLL1890 Před rokem +1345

      @@twistedbliss58 every single thing and everyone in America is affected by slavery that’s how the country even exists today. They are not “complaining” because they acknowledge that fact.

    • @steppinschool
      @steppinschool Před rokem +222

      @@adrianna5378nobody age 30 or below have to deal with it though. Those are the main ones complaining.

  • @somebodyoulove
    @somebodyoulove Před rokem +8183

    Africans went through colonization and African Americans went through slavery. We all have different but some what similar histories. Also this group seem so intelligent and respectful.

    • @period3uhh_
      @period3uhh_ Před rokem +76

      agreed!

    • @woodzy4984
      @woodzy4984 Před rokem

      Africans were sold buy their own country so I guess they went through slavery too.

    • @itsymmetry137
      @itsymmetry137 Před rokem +1168

      Africans also went through slavery; in fact, they played an integral part in creating the transatlantic slave trade.

    • @thepubquiz3198
      @thepubquiz3198 Před rokem +426

      Everybody went through Colonization and slavery.

    • @nirvanak4634
      @nirvanak4634 Před rokem +744

      @@thepubquiz3198 This video isn’t about everybody

  • @briannawillis1124
    @briannawillis1124 Před 6 měsíci +160

    I'm DEFINITELYYYY gonna need to come back & rewatch this because everyone's mind is evolving my own perception of society. I JUST LOVE SEEING STRONG, EDUCATED BLACK FOLK SPEAKING TRUTH !!!!!

    • @dmoney_pimpslap
      @dmoney_pimpslap Před 2 měsíci +2

      You act like "educated black folk" are the anomaly.

    • @briannawillis1124
      @briannawillis1124 Před 2 měsíci +5

      @@dmoney_pimpslap I just love seeing the media coverage of it!! I go to an HBCU & I manage a trade school that teaches at risk youth life skills, so I’m constantly surrounded by very intellectual, promising individuals. Some people don’t have that opportunity, so it’s nice to see a video that shows the perception of educated POC.

    • @TheBarbequeKid
      @TheBarbequeKid Před měsícem +2

      ​@@dmoney_pimpslap in all honesty they are, that's just the truth

  • @michaelfortenberry5735
    @michaelfortenberry5735 Před 7 měsíci +8

    I've known a few guys from West Africa who immigrated here. Some of the most hardest-working, sincere, genuine people you'll ever meet.

    • @jonaswatson533
      @jonaswatson533 Před 5 dny +1

      African Americans can learn a lot from West Africans.

  • @dikhathatochimbwete2327
    @dikhathatochimbwete2327 Před rokem +7531

    A conversation all black people will appreciate and have waited for

    • @ishy6875
      @ishy6875 Před rokem +83

      If you're African or African American.

    • @johnconnor4749
      @johnconnor4749 Před rokem +33

      Not at all.

    • @MrsLizziee
      @MrsLizziee Před rokem +235

      @@ishy6875 Well... not all africans are black.

    • @nicotinedietcoke
      @nicotinedietcoke Před rokem +91

      I’m not black but I appreciate and have learned a lot from this video

    • @blue-yc6iu
      @blue-yc6iu Před rokem +10

      No I can give af what a African says

  • @itsnatemate7697
    @itsnatemate7697 Před rokem +3216

    “But it’s still nothing compared to…”
    “I wouldn’t want to minimize that pain, what you just said hurt me…”
    I teared up. That’s how it should be nowadays. Instead of people putting down other marginalized groups history and gaslighting them with “well that was a long time ago” or “stop playing victim”

    • @klaudinegarcia8932
      @klaudinegarcia8932 Před rokem +1

      IKR??? White people make it sound so easy to move on. African Americans were enslaved for 400 years or more. Do they really expect healing can happen over night??? 😅 And it's not just slavery trauma African Americans are struggling with. They're also struggling with an identity crisis because their ancestors had to assimilate (more like erase) their culture and language.

    • @neyou6940
      @neyou6940 Před rokem

      Bunch of pussies

    • @Ninuoluwa
      @Ninuoluwa Před rokem +110

      Yea that part touched me too. ❤

    • @heyitsbroski
      @heyitsbroski Před rokem +132

      While it is tragic, they need to stop thinking they're the only ones that suffered. People of all races were slaves at one point or another and the transatlantic slave trade was NOT the worse of all-time. They need to start blaming their own people, the Africans that sold them to the Europeans for weapons. Blame the Jews that owned and operated the ships that brought them over. Staying in the victimhood mentality will always give them a reason to blame others rather than taking action of their own lives to better themselves and their culture.

    • @swanton47
      @swanton47 Před rokem +267

      @@heyitsbroski chattel slavery is nothing like the other forms of slavery and nobody said we were the only ones. The fact that other people were slaves does not minimize what we’ve been through when those scars and the affects are literally still here today. There were wars fought to get us back and some slaves were prisoners beforehand. And damn ok blame everyone except the white colonizers? Jews didn’t have as big of a role as you think

  • @reyjdl14
    @reyjdl14 Před 7 měsíci +31

    love seeing intellectual conversations like this. great episode!

  • @lifeordeath9228
    @lifeordeath9228 Před 4 měsíci +69

    Not African or African American, but I am a First Gen Black (Caribbean) American. One thing I love about this conversation is that I relate to both camps, being perceived as and treated as an African American by society and having ingrained responsibility to pursue the American Dream to better support my family. This conversation gave me a lot to personally think about, this was a fantastic episode!

    • @konlish
      @konlish Před měsícem +5

      I thought most Caribbeans have African heritage

    • @Wokemelanaire
      @Wokemelanaire Před 27 dny +4

      You’re a Caribbean American not a Black American

    • @barbiedreamzown
      @barbiedreamzown Před 14 dny +2

      You aren’t black American at all you’re Caribbean American

    • @lifeordeath9228
      @lifeordeath9228 Před 14 dny

      @barbiedreamzown reason I say Black (Caribbean) American is because while I acknowledge that I am literally a Caribbean American, I am socialized as Black / African American by American society. With the exception of keen Caribbean people, nobody is thinking I am anything other than African American. That's just how it is growing up here, if you are Black then you are put in the bucket of being African American even though that history does not inherently apply to you. Especially since I am able to articulate myself in an "American" accent, have a White sounding name, do not overtly wear or use anything that ties me to my Caribbean identity, or have any specific ethnic features that may allude that I am anything other than African American.
      Saying that I'm not a Black/African American doesn't make sense in that context. I am treated as one by society, so that is my lived experience. Even when I go back to the islands, they treat me as a foreigner despite my ethnic routes.
      Intersectionality due to nationally makes ethnic/racial matters more complex than one may think.

    • @Wokemelanaire
      @Wokemelanaire Před 14 dny

      @@lifeordeath9228 no you can identify however you want yet you chose to identify as one of the descendants of American chattel slavery.. you are NOT one of us! You have no ties to this land. You are neither a Black American or African American. You’re a Caribbean American. Accept your ethnicity. Be proud of your ethnicity and culture. Don’t cosplay our ethnicity and culture!

  • @ParadiseLoading
    @ParadiseLoading Před rokem +2993

    It is so refreshing to see an actual dialogue with no screaming, yelling, name-calling, or cutting people off mid-sentence. I loved the mutual respect!

    • @deejay7339
      @deejay7339 Před rokem +34

      That's yt behavior. Since there are none present, you see civility.

    • @0Honey_Nut_Cheetos0
      @0Honey_Nut_Cheetos0 Před rokem +103

      @@deejay7339 That’s racist

    • @deejay7339
      @deejay7339 Před rokem +19

      @@0Honey_Nut_Cheetos0 facts can't be racist

    • @0Honey_Nut_Cheetos0
      @0Honey_Nut_Cheetos0 Před rokem +60

      @@deejay7339 What about your comment is factual? Watch you not respond, avoid the question, or straight up lie.

    • @deejay7339
      @deejay7339 Před rokem +7

      @@0Honey_Nut_Cheetos0 All of my comment is factual. ✅ And nice job thumbs upping yourself in a min lmao.

  • @jackieferrarimusic
    @jackieferrarimusic Před rokem +4212

    Freedom isn't just physical. It's also mental. You can be physically free and mentally enslaved to an ideology or something you have been through

  • @challisjones2714
    @challisjones2714 Před 7 měsíci +254

    The comment about stock appreciation was the best explanation of the generational wealth gap ive ever heard. Very great job with breaking that down. Politicians that are paid to "care" about these topics havent come up with a better statement than that on the subject.

    • @2ndCallSkipp
      @2ndCallSkipp Před 6 měsíci +7

      Thank you.. 😊

    • @jjaypurrr23
      @jjaypurrr23 Před 4 měsíci +7

      I understand that.. but I’ve seen a lot of immigrant kids with parents that had to start from scratch. With no foundation. Ended up being successful. Sometimes it’s what you do with the cards your dealt with. Nobody will feel sorry for us.

    • @ecoasis1
      @ecoasis1 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@jjaypurrr23 AMEN to " it’s what you do with the cards your dealt with. Nobody will feel sorry for us".

    • @rmac3217
      @rmac3217 Před 2 měsíci

      The stock market is constantly moving, the entire idea that ppl choose to invest into your company is the major difference to socialism, where the govt decides who they give your money (resources) to.

    • @Tmac_305
      @Tmac_305 Před 25 dny

      ​@@2ndCallSkipp "with no foundation"?? Are you serious or is that a joke?😂

  • @ladybugblack
    @ladybugblack Před měsícem +17

    We need more conversations like this. Everyone speaking with respect & understanding. I love it 🖤🖤🖤

  • @mosandkaka
    @mosandkaka Před rokem +4000

    As an African I appreciate the efforts of African Americans for fighting for the betterment of all black people in America. Without that fight us Africans would not be benefiting from these benefits.

    • @merrytunes8697
      @merrytunes8697 Před rokem +400

      Thank you! That seems to be lost on some, as the only welcomed immigrants for decades were from European countries. Without the African American fight, there would be no African immigrants.

    • @cutiepiettvjackson8744
      @cutiepiettvjackson8744 Před rokem +208

      This is true, without the fight, Africans would be sent back to Africa and not even allowed the benefit of a better life, bullied, etc. All the things blacks went through would be put on Africans and it would be horrific, so the fight was worth it in the end. I do believe Black America has gotten way better for blacks.

    • @floridababy974
      @floridababy974 Před rokem +46

      What benefits?

    • @Nostalgia-im6wi
      @Nostalgia-im6wi Před rokem +29

      @@merrytunes8697 YES!! Sometimes it's so difficult to explain this to people for some reason.

    • @pierrejacque1994
      @pierrejacque1994 Před rokem +8

      @@merrytunes8697 oh men thank you oh afro american but we are the richest black we also suceed thanks to our work

  • @Jemimahcheesburger
    @Jemimahcheesburger Před rokem +2378

    As Africans, we experience a very deep level of discrimination where there are divides amongst the people. There's a quote that says, "When brothers fight each other, outsiders inherit their property." And that is exactly what happens.

  • @manoftmrrw
    @manoftmrrw Před měsícem +11

    This was very refreshing to watch. I'm happy to see progress in the unity of people of the diaspora. We must continue this conversation to know better and do better, my people

  • @lvencent
    @lvencent Před 2 měsíci +8

    I think the conversation was beautiful from cousins to cousins, understanding each others walk by sharing our shoes, bring us closer together and expand our respect-one-to-The-other ❤

  • @inlivingcolor...abroad6099
    @inlivingcolor...abroad6099 Před rokem +2243

    I love how Kai turned that statement about race obsession around.
    The reason why race is such a prominent conversation in America is in fact b/c laws were based on race and oppressing others for hundreds of years.
    You can’t hit someone repeatedly in the face and then say “let’s just move on”

    • @suzygirl1843
      @suzygirl1843 Před rokem +24

      Wakanda Forever movie definitely had a hand in this happening because Africans and black Americans need to come together

    • @_callmetre_2369
      @_callmetre_2369 Před rokem +136

      @@suzygirl1843 I also think people completely missed the fact that Wakanda itself is supposed to be before Africa was colonized. So that’s why it’s an array of Black African folks in the movie. Like Winston Duke is from Trinidad. Letitia is Guyanese-British & the list just goes on & on. I think Ryan Coogler tried to included every ethnicity from the African Diaspora in the movie.

    • @StarMercurian
      @StarMercurian Před rokem +7

      THIS

    • @yungmetr0135
      @yungmetr0135 Před rokem +45

      the black people alive now did not get to experience laws that were based on race so what are u saying

    • @devronl08
      @devronl08 Před rokem +239

      @@yungmetr0135You’re acting as if the 60’s was over hundreds of years ago. Both of my parents were born BEFORE the civil rights movement. Not to mention my grandparents. MANY black people alive today have experienced laws based on slavery. And they still trickle into our laws today. Also my generation( in my family) is the first since the civil rights movement, so we aren’t far removed at all.

  • @jessicakarenmartin
    @jessicakarenmartin Před rokem +2343

    "Race isn't an obsession, it's a distraction..." - Very true!!

    • @TychoKingdom
      @TychoKingdom Před rokem +17

      Race is the law of the land.

    • @ALemonAteHer
      @ALemonAteHer Před rokem +96

      It's a distraction when your obsessed with it

    • @god563616
      @god563616 Před rokem +4

      yes

    • @Moepowerplant
      @Moepowerplant Před rokem

      I have a suspicion that differences in skin color, etc. are simply excuses to rally the masses (perhaps the only people who actually care about those things) of their respective nations behind them, but the elite know the real division in society: haves and have-nots.

    • @edwinamendelssohn5129
      @edwinamendelssohn5129 Před rokem +5

      @@TychoKingdom where?

  • @caustic_rage
    @caustic_rage Před 7 měsíci +3

    This was a really beautiful episode.

  • @Becca77720
    @Becca77720 Před 6 měsíci +5

    I agree with Prosper and Elizabeth love what they were saying.💜

  • @KamariaP
    @KamariaP Před rokem +2074

    This episode is how Africans and African Americans should be towards each other. I loved how open and accepting everyone was towards the different opinions. As someone who is African American, it does feel like there is a divide between us when there shouldn't be. I wish as a whole we could be more like this. Great conversation guys!

    • @sasazamami
      @sasazamami Před rokem +44

      but if you listen to the answers, you can hear how the Africans are grateful to the White Americans and that is what make us different. they have abandoned their homeland to do the white man's bidding and undermine the Black American struggle for reparations and liberation.

    • @timbredan3476
      @timbredan3476 Před rokem +7

      @@sasazamami well said

    • @justwallace
      @justwallace Před rokem +14

      cause we didnt create the divide

    • @angela7014
      @angela7014 Před rokem +23

      @@sasazamami stop whining

    • @sasazamami
      @sasazamami Před rokem +11

      @@angela7014 where you from?

  • @peachica
    @peachica Před rokem +2036

    goodness. everyone here is very insightful, intelligent, and they know how to have a proper discussion without being rude, interrupting, or disrespecting others. the best middle ground group hands down.

  • @johnnyjohnson7077
    @johnnyjohnson7077 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Very insightful discussions that were needed for some time. Reading other people's comments about the panel clearly impacted their perspectives, unexpectedly. The panel handled themselves well.

  • @Boobalopbop
    @Boobalopbop Před 7 měsíci +76

    I loooooooved this conversation! So not what I was expecting. I love that everyone didn’t “sloganize”
    And spoke straight from their own experience, knowledge and heart.

  • @antibullshit
    @antibullshit Před rokem +2784

    One of the best (and probably the most respectful) Middle Ground episodes to date

    • @dapo3538
      @dapo3538 Před rokem +9

      💯

    • @chrisvibz4753
      @chrisvibz4753 Před rokem

      yeah because it was two of the same race homie. You just don’t see people liking white mfs anymore even tho they weren’t there during slavery you know?

    • @career5690
      @career5690 Před rokem +4

      It is

    • @createyouthnetwork9791
      @createyouthnetwork9791 Před rokem +2

      Mesmo 😂😅

    • @Dark.Scrolls
      @Dark.Scrolls Před rokem +1

      Uh, wym? By the end of the video "white" people = still bad, which
      makes the whole video low IQ. The USA had a black president for 8 years.

  • @ceeshaki7305
    @ceeshaki7305 Před rokem +1691

    as an nigerian american, i appreciate this conversation it’s something we need to continue.

    • @itsprincipe
      @itsprincipe Před rokem +23

      nigérian american how does that make sense

    • @religiohominilupus5259
      @religiohominilupus5259 Před rokem +131

      @@itsprincipe Actually makes a lot more sense than saying "African American," "American," or even ""European." Neither of those are countries, they're continents. Nigeria's a country, so is the US, and so is Spain, just to name three. So yeah, OP specifying they're Nigerian American makes perfect sense. At least to me.

    • @umiprincesscosplay
      @umiprincesscosplay Před rokem +50

      @@itsprincipe it’s like Italian American, it’s a country within a continent. Like Nigeria is a country within the continent of Africa.

    • @petergeramin7195
      @petergeramin7195 Před rokem +10

      @@umiprincesscosplay What are you talking about?

    • @itsprincipe
      @itsprincipe Před rokem

      @@religiohominilupus5259 ok so would they be from america but their half nigerian or what

  • @tamupwork
    @tamupwork Před 7 měsíci +44

    As a black woman living in Canada, none African, and None African American. I am always appalled about how African people come to America and tell African Americans who've been there and born there for more than 400 years, to stop thinking about racism and that it's a false concept. It is just crazy to me. Africans and AAs do not have the same experience at all. Also, AAs are not immigrants or recent immigrants, they are full Americans. So the mentality and experience are very different. Africans search for opportunities, while AAs fight for their rights as Full American citizens of many generations.

    • @kr1373
      @kr1373 Před 6 měsíci +11

      Period! Thank you.

    • @ciciolhaaqui
      @ciciolhaaqui Před 6 měsíci +4

      Victimisation at its fullest

    • @CA-pp5nx
      @CA-pp5nx Před 6 měsíci

      @@ciciolhaaqui No your ignorance is at its finest

    • @Kekoa552
      @Kekoa552 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@ciciolhaaqui nah it makes sense They should be fighting because
      If you see the prison system it usually black people that get more time and get jailed than any other race and that gotta be alarming We need to look into this and there was injustice going on that was discovered you can say victimization but it not entirely the truth I used to agree but now it ain't like that

    • @Cameron-kv6kq
      @Cameron-kv6kq Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@ciciolhaaquiare you gonna explain how or you just gonna leave a blanket stwtement

  • @shannondbrown1552
    @shannondbrown1552 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I thoroughly enjoyed this panel. It is so interesting to hear their perspective and the stereotypes they have about us. I was pleased to see that once they heard the other out and put themselves in their shoes they were able to understand better. Such a wonderfully diverse and intelligent group of people. I think we should have way more discussions like this on higher platforms where some changes can actually be made. This world has turned into such a hateful horrible place and I’m afraid of where we are going…..

  • @catherinecampbell1215
    @catherinecampbell1215 Před rokem +749

    As a black person born and raised in America with a Nigerian dad, this conversation is really great to see.

    • @nigeriansista
      @nigeriansista Před rokem +34

      Yes, same here! I have a Nigerian dad and American mom

    • @miurtouissi1093
      @miurtouissi1093 Před rokem +4

      Do you consider yourself African American?

    • @maryb.5668
      @maryb.5668 Před rokem +37

      @@miurtouissi1093 I'm also a Nigerian raised in America. I don't consider myself African American because I'm truly not a direct descendant of slaves. Culturally though, Im a mix (I grew up under AA influences outside but at home, it was all Nigerian). It gets a bit complicated. but I consider myself a Nigerian simply living in America

    • @miurtouissi1093
      @miurtouissi1093 Před rokem +9

      @@maryb.5668 this is interesting. I'm Canadian from the Caribbean and I consider myself Canadian. I've always wondered how other black people from the diaspora living in the USA felt about their identity since AA have a strong culture and history but also being born in America for most makes you American. I guess I thought you would always see yourself as a Nigerian American but then I would also understand not since I would say I'm Canadian. I guess the slavery aspect of it is part of AA identity. I hadn't thought about that since I myself am a descendant of slaves.

    • @bryant475
      @bryant475 Před rokem +1

      It comes down to Parenting/Mindset/Culture (PMC), not race. Africans/Caribbean tend to be more successful because of PMC, that places high value on Godly morals, hard work and education, etc. Similar to Asians and other groups. Victim vs Victor mentality!

  • @vic902
    @vic902 Před rokem +897

    As an African, I also think that because we are immigrants and had the choice of coming to America, that experience in itself will be quite different from African Americans who were initially forced to come over and went through generations of being in a system that didn’t allow them to have opportunities for career growth . Most African immigrants WHO do come over, have at some capacity exposure to education, work experience or connections. Not saying there are Africans who don’t come to America struggling but coming over to America requires most immigrants (especially African immigrants)to have some sort of aspect that makes them “valuable” for them to even attain a visa. I really don’t like when people try to say that Africans are more “successful” than AA cause we work harder and are not lazy. AA are just as successful but there are still families that are still going through that cycle of poverty and trauma due to slavery. While most Africans who happen to migrate to America with a set plan with high exposure are probably going to be successful anyways and instill that in their children. Comparing both groups in numbers regarding success misrepresents it cause keep in mind there are Africans back home who are also still trying to break cycles of poverty. So I’m just saying that immigrant experience is very much distinct than that of AA experience.

    • @Queenc782
      @Queenc782 Před rokem +59

      Very well said 👏🏽

    • @timbredan3476
      @timbredan3476 Před rokem +34

      So well said!

    • @anyaw340
      @anyaw340 Před rokem +138

      Completely agree. The US government does not select just anyone to come to the US, since many people would come here and be burdens on US society. They select people who have already demonstrated that they can persevere and achieve some level of success in their own countries. These are people who have already *proven* to be ambitious and talented in their own countries, but just need the tools of a first world country to really reach their potential. These are the kinds of people the US selects. Thus, immigrants in general (not just Africans) are more successful than *all* native-born Americans (not just African Americans) because they were selected specifically for accomplishments they've already made before they even got here. That's certainly a compliment to immigrant populations, but it's not reflective of their cultures in general.

    • @vic902
      @vic902 Před rokem +12

      @@anyaw340 Exactly💯👏🏽👏🏽

    • @mazvitaaa
      @mazvitaaa Před rokem +19

      You definitely hit the nail on the head.

  • @eduardopapelo2413
    @eduardopapelo2413 Před 7 měsíci +5

    Not surprised why ppl been' asking where she's from the minute they hear Elizabeth speak. Her accent is sweet n beautiful. Hope she never loses it.

  • @iyannawilliams3029
    @iyannawilliams3029 Před měsícem +1

    I loved this conversation! I loved the many differences in the room and how everyone was able to disagree but still respect each other.

  • @panlis6243
    @panlis6243 Před rokem +2446

    As a polish person, I would love to see more episodes with people outside of USA

    • @sleepyboi1964
      @sleepyboi1964 Před rokem +36

      this ^

    • @BitchChill
      @BitchChill Před rokem +136

      This is a US channel

    • @piececake5820
      @piececake5820 Před rokem +307

      @@BitchChill yeah, but an european episode would be so nice. Like to have people from different countries there to talk.

    • @necrom4454
      @necrom4454 Před rokem +195

      @@BitchChill Yet they got African people for this episode

    • @juanitacolette5766
      @juanitacolette5766 Před rokem +9

      @@necrom4454what?

  • @NonStopParis
    @NonStopParis Před rokem +3961

    I can’t help but feel there was a lost opportunity to include a black American woman. Other than that, very insightful and fascinating conversation.

    • @jordanleighwheatley
      @jordanleighwheatley Před rokem +281

      I agree and would've loved for a conversation between the women about racism in healthcare with those perspectives

    • @zibz_art
      @zibz_art Před rokem +149

      Yes, I thought about that too. When they were talking about a divide in African American communities, I wish there was a black woman, who experience/seen colorism to speak about it.

    • @jordanleighwheatley
      @jordanleighwheatley Před rokem +41

      @@zibz_art maybe they will repeat this episode and talk more about specific industries and racism. Retail, hospitality, healthcare, etc.

    • @Curdii.
      @Curdii. Před rokem

      @@zibz_art the American African American would've fucked that up

    • @zibz_art
      @zibz_art Před rokem +5

      @@Curdii. I am not sure why you would think that... strange...

  • @kelseythomson4418
    @kelseythomson4418 Před 7 měsíci +27

    "A little genocide." That hit me hard. Here in America there is no such thing as a little genocide, only genocide. We are truly privileged.

    • @KDH-br6hy
      @KDH-br6hy Před 6 měsíci +1

      The privileged to not have a genocide I guess?

    • @CA-pp5nx
      @CA-pp5nx Před 6 měsíci +4

      @@KDH-br6hy well duh....

  • @thomaslinen9823
    @thomaslinen9823 Před 5 měsíci +4

    We need to do this more. I tell my friends from Africa to stop judging Africans from America. We been through a lot. Miseducation, trauma, economic depreciation and terror. All of this was done to divide and conquer. Great video!

  • @anodaone6525
    @anodaone6525 Před 11 měsíci +1689

    I think as black people, we need more of these conversations with each other. Black people all over need this. It helps us understand each other more.

    • @fahimkar3361
      @fahimkar3361 Před 11 měsíci

      Africans are Africans. Afro Americans are black people. Just Afro Americans.

    • @Northseattle-
      @Northseattle- Před 11 měsíci +13

      Ya ✊🏾✊🏿

    • @someanimefan5990
      @someanimefan5990 Před 7 měsíci +10

      " Black people all over need this"
      Nope, not the privileged blacks in countries where they're the dominant majority; the privileged dominant majority should not play identity politics.

    • @krash2430
      @krash2430 Před 7 měsíci

      oh so now they are the privileged ones? not the americans that have acess to everything they need and yet still cry ? @@someanimefan5990ps: i'm not talking about the video

    • @shawny5338
      @shawny5338 Před 7 měsíci +18

      @@someanimefan5990 Those and Conservative blacks are exactly who need to be a part of these conversations. Otherwise, you will only be in your own bubble and will never find alternatives or different points of view that could help Africans grow as a community.

  • @Olivia-mj4vv
    @Olivia-mj4vv Před rokem +763

    One of the most chill Middle Ground episodes. There's no major arguing and fighting, just some understanding and calm talking and laughing. It's refreshing.

    • @idku6554
      @idku6554 Před 11 měsíci +8

      Honestly they should add in the casting the requirement of letting others talk and not interrupt. It gets so annoying I’ve stopped watching videos that was interested in because the people arguing would just shout at each other

  • @FelipeLobos-ig9px
    @FelipeLobos-ig9px Před 4 měsíci +2

    I love it.. This is a balanced conversation. This was done correct.

  • @cupofchi_
    @cupofchi_ Před 6 měsíci +1

    i love this so much and this is my second video that ive seen with elizabeth. i just love her personality and wisdom.

  • @yankytank09
    @yankytank09 Před rokem +531

    I'm glad they had an older person's perspective. I wish there were an older perspective on the African side. All in all, this conversation was so healthy and insightful! 🙏🏾

    • @liberatambua7271
      @liberatambua7271 Před rokem +48

      That would have been amazing. Our African grandparents have stories to tell, stories of the excruciating pain they went through under the colonial rule. There are some freedom fighters still alive in Kenya, and I doubt any of them wants to hear the name of the late queen, sorry to say

    • @angelazsz
      @angelazsz Před rokem +4

      i absolutely agree. an episode with elders of different cultures on the question of “how is life better/worse now than before” would be extremely insightful and educational

    • @baridakara
      @baridakara Před rokem

      Yupp

    • @Q.T-T
      @Q.T-T Před 15 dny

      They also need a woman on the AA side..

  • @mayap3738
    @mayap3738 Před rokem +463

    I appreciated Elizabeth (Nigerian sista) because she acknowledged the negative way that many Africans feel about black/African-Americans but also confessed that through experience and research she was able to develop a more well rounded understanding. Hearing Africans say that their families are back home dying to come to America really makes me sad whenever I hear it cuz it should really be the other way around. We should be dying to come there.

    • @isaiahprater8325
      @isaiahprater8325 Před rokem +2

      Do they not teach this at school?

    • @isaiahprater8325
      @isaiahprater8325 Před rokem +3

      @Gleeful Glock bro who are you to say what I can and can not survive!? Once again, you fools continue to act like yall are better just because you don't use deodorant.

    • @gleefulglock9461
      @gleefulglock9461 Před rokem

      @Derrick Bol Yakwa 6’3 Most 😉

    • @Bv3276
      @Bv3276 Před rokem +7

      @@derrickbolyakwa6395I’m an African American that just found her roots(Tikar of Cameroon) via AfricanAncestry test and I appreciate that. I love y’all fr! 🫶🏽

    • @BB-ji3bb
      @BB-ji3bb Před rokem

      @@isaiahprater8325 😂😂😂 "Because you don't use deodorant" you're shameless, read a book abeg. You're uninformed

  • @brightshining
    @brightshining Před 6 měsíci +1

    A most beautiful conversation, threading connection in our frayed world

  • @user-rq9ti9pk2t
    @user-rq9ti9pk2t Před 5 měsíci +1

    I’m so glad to see Elizabeth back❤

  • @maggiemuriithi9648
    @maggiemuriithi9648 Před rokem +404

    Elizabeth is just amazing
    How she puts her African perspective to her American life is beautiful
    Kudos from 🇰🇪🇰🇪

  • @jesseross2641
    @jesseross2641 Před rokem +797

    As a native from Aotearoa , I’d love to see “progressive Native Americans vs traditional Native American”

    • @MB-mg6ky
      @MB-mg6ky Před rokem +13

      😂😭😭

    • @indiald3373
      @indiald3373 Před rokem +1

      interesante @Jesse Ross

    • @Zeyede_Seyum
      @Zeyede_Seyum Před rokem

      Where?

    • @1ZzSuenoszZ1
      @1ZzSuenoszZ1 Před rokem +17

      @@MB-mg6ky I'm confused what's so funny?

    • @SunnyandNova
      @SunnyandNova Před rokem +26

      You mean $5 Indians vs Traditional Mongoloid Native Americans? 😂😂 that would be so awesome

  • @Twodime4032
    @Twodime4032 Před 3 měsíci +7

    People complain but no one likes hearing ppl complaining, everyone has struggles. Asian struggles too everyone has issues don’t be cry baby

  • @alecia5043
    @alecia5043 Před 7 měsíci +2

    I love this concept and this was wonderfully done. I do think it’s missing the perspective of an African American woman.

  • @kassdremusic
    @kassdremusic Před rokem +1557

    I’m Nigerian and what Black Americans have done. Should be applauded more. They are great, talented people.

    • @fruitsarelife7073
      @fruitsarelife7073 Před rokem +123

      I agree 100% . They deserve more credit and understanding. They are amazing and strong.❤️Im Eritrean.

    • @DefSquadFan
      @DefSquadFan Před rokem

      The impact of slavery on law, generational wealth, self-esteem, culture, and relationships with whites today all come from slavery.

    • @travelpro23
      @travelpro23 Před rokem +154

      And Africans would NOT be able to come to America and thrive without the sacrifices of American black people (civil rights movement, etc.). Do Africans really know and understand what people went through during the time of Jim Crowe and the horrific things people had to go through for basic rights, and African people just come to benefit off of all of that hard work??? Yes, it definitely needs to be applauded much more!

    • @queenbbeaute2654
      @queenbbeaute2654 Před rokem +27

      Thank u We really appreciate it seems its easier for ppl to just hate first vs educate themselves and understand

    • @natriac.6092
      @natriac.6092 Před rokem +156

      @@travelpro23 Why do you feel so attacked.
      Like you are being so passive-aggressive.
      "African people just come to benefit off of all of that hard work"
      Both sides suffered, for your information.

  • @majidMouzin
    @majidMouzin Před 11 měsíci +873

    I'm not black, not African, not American and not white. So as a total outsider to this conversation, i really appreciate how everyone was so understanding of each other's points and there was no angry dismissiveness. Gained a lot of perspective.

    • @corythegoat2745
      @corythegoat2745 Před 9 měsíci +21

      And black Americans ain't African! But some Africans ancestry is from America!

    • @frenchkisse.
      @frenchkisse. Před 9 měsíci

      @@corythegoat2745 literally all black people are originally from Africa, what are u on abt

    • @xiao-sn1lq
      @xiao-sn1lq Před 9 měsíci +78

      ⁠@@corythegoat2745black americans have african ancestry and how would african people have ancestry from america

    • @xiao-sn1lq
      @xiao-sn1lq Před 9 měsíci +5

      they’d be mixed

    • @tylerrenz2505
      @tylerrenz2505 Před 8 měsíci +7

      Thanks for taking the time to watch. Means a lot that you seek understanding and not judgement. Cool human 😊

  • @SanctusObscurum
    @SanctusObscurum Před 6 měsíci +5

    What a beautiful and respectful discussion

  • @meeraftaddesse8956
    @meeraftaddesse8956 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I loved this discussion. I wish it would happen more often.

  • @TopS7
    @TopS7 Před rokem +892

    As African it always irritates me when other Africans say AA's complain too much about racism in America not understanding the history of AA's and how it's still connected systemically to what's happening today when it cames to how they're unfairly treated disproportionately in incarceration, housing, poverty or even getting a loan from the bank. As a Somali I'm very thankful for AA's their voices matter. The sacrifices they made directly benefits us. What some don't understand is what happens in America directly affects the rest of us. The U.S government has huge amount of controll and leverage over the continent of Africa. Only the politician's and the leaders they choose will stay in power as they will use their unlimited resources to manipulate and instigate till they get the outcome they desire in Which is based solely on exploitation.

    • @TopS7
      @TopS7 Před rokem +138

      @Blessing You're not seeing this thru clear eyes the wide spread inequality practices that was implemented against their ancestors for generations is the root cause and there is a direct link between poverty and crime.

    • @Jeff-xv6gk
      @Jeff-xv6gk Před rokem +101

      @Blessing it’s part of the problem the reason why crime rates are high in black communities is the lack of resources they just did a study saying if black Americans receive reparations the crime rate will go down drastically!

    • @TopS7
      @TopS7 Před rokem +48

      @@Jeff-xv6gk She is only seeing the smaller picture. There list of issue why things are way they are. There was governmental policy to undermine black people in American for a long time and when it comes to crime rates AA's are always under the scope black neighborhoods are Patrolled more racist judge's, profiling, stop and frisk etc ...

    • @ivyrainbitch
      @ivyrainbitch Před rokem

      ​@Blessing build upbyour home countries African booty scratcher

    • @anonymousbo0318
      @anonymousbo0318 Před rokem

      @@TopS7You people never take accountability, you're clowns

  • @reeik9000
    @reeik9000 Před rokem +1006

    Best video they have posted. The Africans & African Americans really needed this conversation.

  • @gerissethlavalle6593
    @gerissethlavalle6593 Před 4 měsíci +12

    One of the most respectful discussions I’ve seen on this channel. Great job!

  • @rachaelmutheu3312
    @rachaelmutheu3312 Před 7 měsíci +17

    I like how it's been understated throughout this conversation that if you don't know much about a certain history but choose to educate yourself on it, you'll comprehend it. Whether you are African and have personal experience with colonialism and neo-colonialism or African American and have your fair share of experience with the systematic prejudice from the White Supremist system.
    I'm Kenyan, and I've always wondered why growing up, the media made me feel inadequacies about my skin color, hair, and so on, and why I unknowingly longed for what I wasn't. Now, being on the anti-racist journey of educating myself on the past is helping me make sense of so much that I'd have otherwise been blind to, and the bigger role these things play in propagating the white supremist narrative. I'm even beginning to understand where so many inequalities in colonised countries stem from, and this helps me in unpacking how I want to serve and contribute in the world!
    To quote Neely Fuller Jr, “If you do not understand White Supremacy (Racism)-what it is, and how it works-everything else that you understand will only confuse you.”

  • @kimplications
    @kimplications Před rokem +925

    "This is their system. Why would we dream of being equal in a system that wasn't designed for us?" that hit me

    • @cavaugnsharkey2699
      @cavaugnsharkey2699 Před rokem +16

      Fr.

    • @MrRono19
      @MrRono19 Před rokem +54

      If only there was a whole continent where things are set up in their way.

    • @kimplications
      @kimplications Před rokem +123

      @@MrRono19if only that same whole continent wasn’t terrorized by colonialism last centuries

    • @MrRono19
      @MrRono19 Před rokem +54

      @@kimplications If only they would stop terrorizing each other nowadays and just move on.

    • @razatiger22
      @razatiger22 Před rokem +98

      @@MrRono19 The reason African countries terroize each other to this day is because Europeans drew the boarders and decided which tribe was in which country because they wanted our resources. There are more tribes of people in Africa then anywhere in the world and Europeans came in with zero knowledge or regard of any of that and drew up the maps.
      Its like if an African ruler walked into Europe and drew a map of Europe and put Russia, Germany and France as a single country or put Turkey, Greece and Italy all in one country. Those are all countries with different cultures and histories as well as beliefs, ofc there would be civil wars.

  • @jhsemoxitha3821
    @jhsemoxitha3821 Před rokem +619

    Finally. The most requested video on Jubilee. This video was requested multiple times by multiple people for YEARS, and Finally it's here.

  • @FootieWootieDingDong
    @FootieWootieDingDong Před 7 měsíci +4

    The guy in the blue shirt is SO refreshing.

  • @carlossantiago9926
    @carlossantiago9926 Před měsícem +1

    I love this one. Great conversation.
    It breaks my heart that racism is still a thing in this country. I legitimately thought that racism was something of the past when I learned about it in detail back in high school. It wasn't until my late 20's-early 30's that I started seeing that this crap was alive and well. I come from European decent with an eighth indigenous American and 3% African blood. I'm mixed up and so is everyone else.
    I wish people would recognize this, grow up, and let the hate go. Look at the big picture and realize that we are beautiful creatures sharing a tiny, little planet. I wish we could figure out how to look out for each other and play fair. There is no room for racism in my world-view.

  • @a4l4l
    @a4l4l Před rokem +912

    Thanks for letting me be apart of this episode Jubilee!

  • @yvonnekagondu7030
    @yvonnekagondu7030 Před rokem +1830

    The energy in the video feels calm, it's like the two groups of people feel safe around each other

    • @shoshonnie7796
      @shoshonnie7796 Před rokem +1

      Safe? Why because they’re all black? Nonsense, you’re statistically more likely to be attacked by someone who looks like you. I’m black and i don’t see this imaginary racism these people are talking about, I’m more afraid of someone that looks like me VS somebody who doesn’t.

    • @deejay7339
      @deejay7339 Před rokem +43

      No yt that's why. Perfect.

    • @imanahmed9754
      @imanahmed9754 Před rokem +9

      🧬

    • @ItsMissChas5
      @ItsMissChas5 Před rokem +5

      I can appreciate that.

    • @bouroboumambaye2270
      @bouroboumambaye2270 Před rokem +10

      family moment

  • @wintervanilla1966
    @wintervanilla1966 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Watching from Nigeria and I'll say this is one of the best video I've watched and about racism part it is not something I'll ignore because if i face racism I'll be affected physically, mentally and emotionally

  • @MakeUpRoom1940
    @MakeUpRoom1940 Před 4 dny

    This was an amazing conversation ! Thank you. Kai is a Gem xxoo

  • @shuffler111100
    @shuffler111100 Před rokem +858

    I really wish there was someone from the Caribbean in this conversation. I feel we have a unique perspective as African descendants. Hopefully there's an opportunity for that to him in the future.

  • @magdalinenjeri5262
    @magdalinenjeri5262 Před 11 měsíci +1239

    Very informative conversation. I am African and what prosper said about Tribalism is very accurate. The 'racism' we face here in Africa is in the form of 'Tribalism'. I am glad both sides acknowledge each others pain and points of view.

    • @Sirie7206
      @Sirie7206 Před 10 měsíci +69

      I had an Ethiopian friend. Beautiful girl. The Caribbean black girls hated her for being so beautiful. One time they tried fighting her at a club, they threw drinks at her. She would get the same hate from non African black girls. May she R.I.P.

    • @Touchedbygod122
      @Touchedbygod122 Před 8 měsíci +16

      So it’s not racism it’s self hate and the lack of a common identity and ideology with you guys !
      Similar but tribalism is not the same thing as racism

    • @magdalinenjeri5262
      @magdalinenjeri5262 Před 8 měsíci +55

      @@Touchedbygod122 Quick question, where are you from?
      I ask this because just like we Africans cannot speak on racism(because we rarely rarely experience is first hand) if you haven't experienced tribalism first hand (like most Africans have,especially in my country) you shouldn't have such a "bold" opinion on it. While they are not exactly the same thing,they have similar effects on communities/people.

    • @Touchedbygod122
      @Touchedbygod122 Před 8 měsíci +14

      @@magdalinenjeri5262
      Colorism is a form of tribalism
      We also have different demographics within the black community
      Afro Latin
      Creole
      And all other kind of mixture bi-racial
      That don’t classify themselves as solely black! Because of the exotic fetishized culture in the community from slavery la casta , platoons and quadroons . Just like the Indian caste system !!
      You should study more history!!
      We also were apart of an African tribe before slavery!!!
      So we can speak to the experience of tribalism!! Try again!

    • @bgsonsthriving.
      @bgsonsthriving. Před 8 měsíci +9

      Yes Tribalism is Africa’s biggest threat of racism is sad

  • @vanbilly8387
    @vanbilly8387 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Africans who didn't fall into being slaves were either smarter, better fighters, or faster runners than those who did become slaves.

  • @JulindaLeDee
    @JulindaLeDee Před 5 měsíci +1

    This is a wonderful and much needed conversation

  • @KAIXOmusic
    @KAIXOmusic Před rokem +1337

    So proud to represent my community in this episode and those among us who may not be the first ones invited to the conversation. So much love for all the people involved in this and love my African fam

    • @chiblesstheraindowninafric9932
      @chiblesstheraindowninafric9932 Před rokem +21

      Love you too Kai. I wish we would all come back together and be brothers and sisters like we used to be. 🖤🖤

    • @CeeJai_K
      @CeeJai_K Před rokem +17

      Really, really enjoyed you Kai. Blessings to you.

    • @lungamadoda6992
      @lungamadoda6992 Před rokem +18

      When you said your last name is king that brought tears in my eyes , I remember visiting the UK and there’s a large number of Caribbean people there and me coming from South Africa it was a shock to see how they all had slaves names and last names at that point I knew slavery was real😢

    • @Specialeena
      @Specialeena Před rokem +12

      Your contributions were brilliant, and this cohort gives one hope for Black unity! Peace and blessings!

    • @SuperAH1985
      @SuperAH1985 Před rokem +5

      👏👏 It was such a great episode and very interesting. Thank you for your insights! Great point about how race obsession is a white supremacy issue.

  • @dagurushow3262
    @dagurushow3262 Před rokem +565

    We need a Haitian and Dominican conversation like this

    • @Shahdae2001
      @Shahdae2001 Před rokem +65

      I would pay to see that conversation

    • @fsoto2900
      @fsoto2900 Před rokem

      No we dont…. Both of those countries are equally corrupt poorly ran by their own country people… enough said… you can say that about each country in the Caribbean… they are poorly ran by Godless children of the Devil.

    • @AmonRa1081
      @AmonRa1081 Před rokem +45

      Now THAT would be a great conversation.

    • @regularpaul8142
      @regularpaul8142 Před rokem +43

      Wooosh they not ready for that.

    • @franciscoaguzman1730
      @franciscoaguzman1730 Před rokem +4

      Great idea

  • @MandosCulture
    @MandosCulture Před 7 měsíci +5

    Absolutely excellent Panel great video and great individuals

  • @DanVille1000
    @DanVille1000 Před 7 měsíci

    Thanks jubi, we all know this was most requested!

  • @sunflowerangelnctzen
    @sunflowerangelnctzen Před rokem +452

    it would be really interesting if you could do a “North Africans vs Middle Easterns”. especially after all the heated conversations that surfaced during this Qatar world cup

    • @HB-ey2dk
      @HB-ey2dk Před rokem +45

      That sounds like it could be very dangerous lol

    • @memeaw2537
      @memeaw2537 Před rokem +23

      That sounds like it could be very interesting

    • @WbbBasketballfan222
      @WbbBasketballfan222 Před rokem

      Yeah ok like the Arabs are going to take any accountability.

    • @belle6358
      @belle6358 Před rokem +39

      @@zuki7776 there are some north africans who identify as only arab then there are north africans who just identify as amazigh and african. some arabs try to claim north africans especially during the FIFA World Cup as Morocco came close to the finals.

    • @belle6358
      @belle6358 Před rokem +24

      @@zuki7776 yes you are correct. it’s just that some north africans do not like being called arab because they are amazigh.

  • @onye9618
    @onye9618 Před rokem +580

    I rarely comment on CZcams videos but I’m Nigerian and I want to commend Elizabeth because I feel like she explained how I feel perfectly. Especially when she said it’s easier for Africans to downplay racism because we don’t understand it. I mean we may understand it but you don’t fully understand something unless you have been through it. It’s easy to think “why’re you complaining when you literally have water?!” And not think about how everyone has struggles and Racism is a struggle black Africans have gone through. We have all suffered, no one’s suffering is less. It is all painful at the end of the day.
    I wouldn’t say I completely understand racism now but I am grateful for every black American who fought through resilience and effort to open doors for all black/African people because without them we would not have Africans in America at this point seeking opportunities.

    • @tylergriffin2499
      @tylergriffin2499 Před rokem

      They didn’t fight for anything without them Africans would still come with America stop acting weak

    • @onye9618
      @onye9618 Před rokem +6

      @@tylergriffin2499 I just stated my thoughts on it lmao. Don’t be so pained

    • @tylergriffin2499
      @tylergriffin2499 Před rokem +3

      @@onye9618 why would I be pained ? And lord knows you no African stop the cap

    • @onye9618
      @onye9618 Před rokem

      @@tylergriffin2499 you’re obviously pained because you’re here this early in the morning trying to invalidate my opinions. Why you think I’m not African is beyond me. I clearly stated that I am a Nigerian in the comment and I also just moved. Not you coming for me when you literally have the most English name ever. Tyler, abeg find peace with yourself and stop replying strangers comment. I wish you well

    • @TychoKingdom
      @TychoKingdom Před rokem +23

      That idea is so small minded also some people in America do not have access to clean water.
      But going back to the first idea. We do not stop fighting for better just because others have it worse. That's makes absolutely no sense to say oh people have it worse than me so I'm not gonna fight to make life better for me and my children. Why settle for less than you deserve.
      I think you don't get it because Black Americans are Americans we have the American spirit the American culture. We want the American dream we want luxury we want excess we are willing to work hard so we can play hard and we don't settle. Being idealistic is very American.

  • @riellecasey8082
    @riellecasey8082 Před 5 měsíci

    Beautifully done and expressed!! This made me proud to look like both sides 😅

  • @fanceym2770
    @fanceym2770 Před 2 měsíci +3

    So wholesome 🤗 and the Nigerian lady made a lot of sense

  • @zaiah9252
    @zaiah9252 Před rokem +530

    As an African American, this conversation needs to happen

    • @ruthkashika5330
      @ruthkashika5330 Před rokem +13

      As an African I agree

    • @jasmine-kg7dd
      @jasmine-kg7dd Před rokem +1

      It already happened.

    • @robbobthebot7359
      @robbobthebot7359 Před rokem

      @@jasmine-kg7dd he probably meant needed excuse his grammar

    • @kayaphus4303
      @kayaphus4303 Před rokem +11

      African Americans have many excuses. Africans dont have the luxury of excuses.

    • @alexisrobinson9180
      @alexisrobinson9180 Před rokem +2

      This conversation has been ongoing and tiresome there are entire chanels dedicated specifically for this

  • @lajoieurmom6011
    @lajoieurmom6011 Před rokem +555

    As an African person I really appreciate that they made this video. Bc I've always felt like Africans and African-Americans are really different in a lot of ways.
    Edit: I didn't mean to start a whole fight in the comment section, I just wanted to highlight my experience of living in the USA and seeing how different Africans and African-Americans are. Like their behavior and how they talk primarily 😭

    • @Dadonc5
      @Dadonc5 Před rokem +69

      We are

    • @reggiemiller6274
      @reggiemiller6274 Před rokem +85

      We had to fight for our rights and while we were doing that the Africans waited until the smoke clear to come over and reap the benefits off the slave ancestors.

    • @tommygogetter5992
      @tommygogetter5992 Před rokem +39

      Africa isn’t homogeneous hence why somalis don’t like ethopia. East Africa has interacted for with the middle east and Africa than west Africa. Skin pigmentation has nothing to do with culture

    • @Peach-hl3hz
      @Peach-hl3hz Před rokem +17

      @@reggiemiller6274 ohh this 🙌🏽 they really would never understand our struggles!

    • @danifranc7011
      @danifranc7011 Před rokem +6

      We are n that's ok

  • @oliviatagoeduring
    @oliviatagoeduring Před 5 měsíci +11

    As a Black British, this was a beautiful discussion!

    • @konlish
      @konlish Před měsícem

      I want to see a British version of this

  • @stenson05
    @stenson05 Před měsícem +3

    I’m so glad Skip was there. He made so many points relevant to his era that have still managed to affect the present generation of Black Americans and immigrants but are now happening covertly. For reference: telling us Black Americans that racism does not exist would be the equivalent of BA’s telling someone from an African country that tribalism does not exist.
    I wish SKIP would have brought up how Black Americans’ Civil Rights Movement led to Non-White immigrants being able to actually come to this country. I also like how he stops & acknowledges the Cameroonian genocide even after the guy in the blue shirt tried to diminish the plight of Black Americans. Which I find amazing when he later goes into how he was profiled and arrested. I realize we have access to many things here that others did not in their countries of origin and it should not be that way in 2024. However, I think other diasporans must understand that if Black Americans accepted the bare minimum here in this country and never fought back, melanated people of other nationalities would very well still not be able to migrate here and PROSPER the way they do currently. Just something to keep in mind when some of you are comparing struggles instead of just acknowledging and respecting everyone’s struggles with equity and sufficient historical context.
    If there’s another conversation like this, I hope Black American women from different age groups are included. I know the younger generations have been mastering genealogy and are now very well at tracking family history back to the 1700s and beyond. Also, Black American millennials and younger that are more well versed with our ethnic group’s history here in America are very proud of our history and our heritage as we should be. We have been here rooted in this country 400-500 years. It is our home the same way Brazil is home to Brazilians, Jamaica is home to Jamaicans, etc.

  • @Kgang.
    @Kgang. Před rokem +217

    "We're just living in the ripple effects of the stones that were cast in the pond of history" Beautifully said!!!

  • @iasminfelix4667
    @iasminfelix4667 Před 11 měsíci +1098

    As a black brazilian, I thank you guys for this open conversation, very clarifying

    • @sandman62100
      @sandman62100 Před 9 měsíci +13

      Are you single?

    • @HundredManSlayer-
      @HundredManSlayer- Před 9 měsíci +149

      ​@@sandman62100nah bro ur down terrible

    • @BoysKasa
      @BoysKasa Před 9 měsíci +1

      nunca, nunca

    • @MikeyLikesIt89
      @MikeyLikesIt89 Před 9 měsíci +26

      Just saying hello to my sister from Brazil. I really think it’s long past time for a stronger connection between African Brazilians (I don’t know how you all refer to yourselves) and African American because I truly believe in we are the only two groups of African people who can understand each other’s struggles.

    • @NathaliLima1
      @NathaliLima1 Před 8 měsíci +6

      @@MikeyLikesIt89 and afro-colombian too

  • @lawrencebello6177
    @lawrencebello6177 Před 6 měsíci

    October 17th 2023. This was a needed conversation. Someone mentioned that there should have been an African American woman on the panel , and I agree. Would’ve brought a different perspective.
    As a Nigerian myself, with cousins that are African American , this was really cool to see.

  • @itsmj3103
    @itsmj3103 Před rokem +397

    I loved how Kai couldn't stop laughing at Elizabeth's jokes. You can always see him in the frame laughing when Elizabeth was being funny, he seems to appreciate her humor a lot lol 8:32 12:21

  • @Blakkbarbii101
    @Blakkbarbii101 Před rokem +532

    I’m from Senegal and I applied to be on this episode because these topics are so interesting. The people chosen were great. In high school I wanted nothing more than to share Africa with African Americans. Although many rejected me and mocked me for my background, some accepted me and l cherish those relationships greatly. I wish for African Americans to understand that we are truly not that different from each other. Hating each other fuels the fire of hatred that slavery and colonization created which means we lose in the end while they laugh at our demise. I wouldn’t be here freely as an African if it weren’t for your struggles. Let’s work as a team and make our ancestors proud. It’s a family reunion ❤

    • @blomobloom9639
      @blomobloom9639 Před rokem +2

      How do you apply

    • @sparklesp9304
      @sparklesp9304 Před rokem +14

      Yeah, some of our ancestors came from Senegal as well actually looking at DNA tests. I'd love to learn more. Im glad the Camaroonian gentlemen was there.

    • @vilheard3030
      @vilheard3030 Před rokem +8

      One of my best friends is from Senegal.

    • @Blakkbarbii101
      @Blakkbarbii101 Před rokem +3

      @@vilheard3030 oh wow! It’s nice having friends from all walks of life.

    • @Blakkbarbii101
      @Blakkbarbii101 Před rokem +3

      @@sparklesp9304 yeah the door of no return is in Senegal and so many slaves were taken from there as well 😢. I’m glad he was there also he had some great points.

  • @ashleighfeatherstone5428
    @ashleighfeatherstone5428 Před 4 měsíci

    i loved this soooo much! I LOVE MY PPL .. ALL OF YOUUUUU

  • @HazeDazeHealing
    @HazeDazeHealing Před měsícem

    I love all of you for being so brave and speaking!!!❤❤❤❤

  • @deborahwalakira2086
    @deborahwalakira2086 Před rokem +268

    Guys to be honest I am so glad . I have been wanting an African and African American middle ground vid to come out and finally it has happened . Sending love from 🇺🇬 Uganda .

  • @lethabomokgatle357
    @lethabomokgatle357 Před rokem +422

    I’m so happy to have been part of this episode 😊

    • @ashley4764
      @ashley4764 Před rokem +15

      you were amazing!

    • @bell-heir2934
      @bell-heir2934 Před rokem +18

      Love your take on the American dream

    • @Ummkelechi
      @Ummkelechi Před rokem +3

      You were amazing!! I actually loved your insight 😊

    • @ivyrainbitch
      @ivyrainbitch Před rokem +4

      Are you planning on building up your home country?

    • @ivandrago782
      @ivandrago782 Před rokem +14

      @@ivyrainbitch why you replying to every comment? get a job bro.

  • @konlish
    @konlish Před měsícem

    That was quite interesting thank you all for sharing your experience and views. I'm from Indian heritage and grew up in several African countries. I have an interest in cultural diversity so I do ask people where they are from as a way to get to know them

  • @mjb6839
    @mjb6839 Před 4 měsíci +1

    that stock analogy was brilliant

  • @Harzeezreport
    @Harzeezreport Před rokem +969

    As an African-American in Atlanta, I have these conversations all of the time with African friends and their friend groups. I feel fortunate to have the upbringing and point of view that I do. It really helps in these conversations.

    • @nova77791
      @nova77791 Před rokem +11

      The word slave comes from the word slav. The fa t is there were more white slaves in africa than black slaves in america...

    • @dondrickdem
      @dondrickdem Před rokem +21

      @@nova77791 where's the proof

    • @nova77791
      @nova77791 Před rokem +7

      @@dondrickdem just wiki it. Fairly easy if u really want to know

    • @nova77791
      @nova77791 Před rokem +6

      @@dondrickdem u cant copy links to utube. But u can also look up the term in the dictionary.. if u dont even bother to look it means ud just prefer to stay in ignorance as it fulfillls a belief

    • @Harzeezreport
      @Harzeezreport Před rokem +30

      @@nova77791 wiki is not a reliable source, speaking from research experience and working at libraries

  • @charliesimmons9392
    @charliesimmons9392 Před rokem +84

    Skipp’s point about supporting community vs supporting the system was something that I never had really thought of, very accurate point

  • @osazeimohe7269
    @osazeimohe7269 Před 2 měsíci +1

    i love this video omg😩yall ATEEEEEE

  • @adesuwasdraft
    @adesuwasdraft Před 6 měsíci

    Such an awesome conversation

  • @jsb06g
    @jsb06g Před rokem +524

    Africans and Black Americans are two different cultures. I wish people would respect the differences and keep it moving.

    • @Naadirahp
      @Naadirahp Před rokem +50

      Exactly

    • @Natureboypkr2
      @Natureboypkr2 Před rokem +183

      Indeed. Black people are not a homogeneous group. An American Black person is different from a Black person from Africa, and both are different from a Black person from Latin America.

    • @theelolicious9302
      @theelolicious9302 Před rokem +116

      African isn't a culture though

    • @zcargill3
      @zcargill3 Před rokem +62

      @@theelolicious9302 Are you joking? Each African tribe has a separate culture than African Americans. Like idk if you wanted them to specify a specific country in Africa or what not but they do have culture that is different.

    • @adaezenjoku7527
      @adaezenjoku7527 Před rokem +49

      @@theelolicious9302 well yes there are more cultures within African but they mean the cultures of black ppl from africa with their own respective cultures based on their country are different than african americans