Simple VS Complex Drums (ft. Brooks Wackerman A7X)

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  • @JaredDines_
    @JaredDines_  Před 5 lety +357

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    • @jhoubim
      @jhoubim Před 5 lety +2

      Where i found this track?

    • @andrewperu1471
      @andrewperu1471 Před 5 lety +2

      Do a vid with timothy molloy from our last night band🔥🔥

    • @batmanwayne5159
      @batmanwayne5159 Před 4 lety

      I think they’re both good, My personal opinion, I would do the simplistic part with Brooks Trashy Cymbals to give it more power.

    • @Azaezlle
      @Azaezlle Před 4 lety

      I like the complex one better. I wish the guitars and bass had been cut lower though so we could more clearly hear the drums.

    • @zeemeerjin9619
      @zeemeerjin9619 Před 4 lety +1

      Where do you find these tracks?

  • @stevenwilliams9108
    @stevenwilliams9108 Před 5 lety +6516

    Brooks Wackerman: *Moves wrist one time*
    *12 hits are clearly audible*

    • @inzukad2694
      @inzukad2694 Před 5 lety +11

      😂😂😂

    • @billiejoeeyelash
      @billiejoeeyelash Před 5 lety +156

      Nothing can ever replace the Rev but he will do. RIP

    • @way2sh0rt07grad
      @way2sh0rt07grad Před 5 lety +70

      Killjøy Clique he’s got that same style by playing off beat clean rhythms

    • @Glowstick48
      @Glowstick48 Před 5 lety +103

      Pure talent and a lifetime of practice dudes a true master of the instrument

    • @joelguzman9280
      @joelguzman9280 Před 5 lety +141

      @@billiejoeeyelash hes not replacing hes simply tag teaming in while the rev rests

  • @rafaelklitschko4085
    @rafaelklitschko4085 Před 4 lety +2108

    Basically, Hail to the King vs. The Stage

    • @zoda761
      @zoda761 Před 4 lety +75

      Unrated comment, you deserve thousand likes

    • @idhamnnn
      @idhamnnn Před 3 lety +11

      Arin > brook

    • @wirawhyra
      @wirawhyra Před 3 lety +141

      @@idhamnnn no

    • @mattfetzer
      @mattfetzer Před 3 lety +56

      @@idhamnnn soft disagree

    • @idhamnnn
      @idhamnnn Před 3 lety +5

      Eyyy eyyy ..i need power ..not modification

  • @Fraggr92
    @Fraggr92 Před 3 lety +284

    It's not so much about which is "better", it's about knowing how to do both and more importantly WHEN to do both. There's a time for simplicity and a time for complexity.

    • @tobiart1617
      @tobiart1617 Před 3 lety +5

      Well said

    • @nathanwhiting5475
      @nathanwhiting5475 Před 3 lety +4

      Exactly. This also applies to basically every instrument.

    • @vulna9150
      @vulna9150 Před 2 lety

      Well said x2

    • @mquin2112
      @mquin2112 Před 2 lety

      Someone did a video comparing Ringo Starr's drumming which in itself was "simple" but how he knew exactly how to make it fit the song vs complexity and how it can take away from it. Knowing the difference is what makes a good drummer great.

    • @hadifelani
      @hadifelani Před 2 lety

      exactly, by having the simple one come first before the complex one, it made the song sounds fuller and if we didn't pay attention to the video it does sounds like a proper transition as a single music instead of a comparison

  • @shquefferyjonesbonesiii7943
    @shquefferyjonesbonesiii7943 Před 3 lety +124

    Brooks does a really good job making the drums sound and feel like a real instrument used for more than just keeping time. His playing just adds a layer of taste.

    • @ExternusArmy
      @ExternusArmy Před rokem +5

      It’s very melodic and musical. It’s not just rhythms but playing with the sounds and tones to create what are essentially melodies.

  • @CameronFleury
    @CameronFleury Před 5 lety +987

    Depends on the musical application. Both can work. And holy shit Brooks Wackerman \M/

    • @ammarD
      @ammarD Před 5 lety +1

      This.

    • @royalcat10
      @royalcat10 Před 5 lety +23

      I've always felt that simple vs complexity comes down to what the song is intended to do. If it's intended to just make you want to move, simplicity is where it's at. I mean, just a basic four on the floor beat works wonders in just making someone tap their foot, or bob their head, or move in any way. I guess that's why pop music tends to be simple, it's just meant to dance to. But music that is meant to be *listened* to is when you want complexity. The music that makes you have to think about what you're hearing. Neither is inherently worse than the other, they just have different applications.
      Obviously, it's possible to combine these with the right mind set / skill, but just as a generalization.

    • @yanbar3433
      @yanbar3433 Před 5 lety +8

      Next up: Animals as Leaders song with some standard Rock drums and some Rock song with Animals as Leaders style drums.
      Woud be funny to hear and would really give you an example of what the drum beat does to the music.

    • @rudowakening3638
      @rudowakening3638 Před 5 lety

      Brooks is the man! His brother Chad might be even better

    • @sharcotics
      @sharcotics Před 5 lety

      Brooks Wackerman was the drummer for Bad Religion, a band that A7X has admitted to listening to a lot and taking some influence from OFC he kicks some ass

  • @benhemsworth8555
    @benhemsworth8555 Před 5 lety +340

    They’re essentially different but equal. Making the drums complex shifts the focus to the drums, while keeping it simple puts the emphasis on the guitar work and bass.
    So it just depends on what part is being done.

    • @bipbipletucha
      @bipbipletucha Před 5 lety

      Ye

    • @deductivereasoning4257
      @deductivereasoning4257 Před 5 lety +10

      I liked both. Then again, I like progressive metal. I like the simple beat, then the complex one. Then, I like a different simple beat and a different complex one. It kept progressing. All that was missing was 5 minutes of guitar noodling...

    • @uncommoneditor9916
      @uncommoneditor9916 Před 5 lety

      Really

    • @TheLightweaver777
      @TheLightweaver777 Před 5 lety +4

      Also, the simple beats don't change the feel of a riff nearly as much as a complex drum pattern will.

    • @sczarface
      @sczarface Před 5 lety

      I completely agree. Both sound great in their own respect.

  • @hoshikiraa9193
    @hoshikiraa9193 Před 3 lety +872

    Let's just pray Brooks never gonna leave A7X...

    • @shootthemessengerband
      @shootthemessengerband Před 3 lety +52

      For real. Brooks has a great playing style for a7x

    • @dkd7670
      @dkd7670 Před 3 lety +17

      @@ripvanwinkle1639 Imagine both of them playing together. If they dont, we riot

    • @goncalobaia1574
      @goncalobaia1574 Před 3 lety +2

      @@dkd7670 unless they divide parts that wouldn't be a good idea

    • @AshleyAllysia
      @AshleyAllysia Před 3 lety +6

      im sorry. im from the future and i have a bad news to tell you man

    • @hoshikiraa9193
      @hoshikiraa9193 Před 3 lety +1

      @@AshleyAllysia dang it

  • @Sobitachi
    @Sobitachi Před 3 lety +126

    2:57 that double bass combined with choking cymbals...🔥🔥

    • @nathanlawrence656
      @nathanlawrence656 Před 3 lety +6

      It sounds sweeter because his kicks are so solid

    • @Sobitachi
      @Sobitachi Před 2 lety +9

      @@nathanlawrence656 it's Brooks we r talking about man!

    • @xfrostyresonance8614
      @xfrostyresonance8614 Před rokem +6

      @@Sobitachi The king of punk and now a destroyer of prog. What can't this man do? And yes, he is the KING of punk. Above Barker. Barker's amazing too, but Brooks somehow manages to play perfectly clean like a drum machine while maintaining groove. There's no weirdness.

    • @Sobitachi
      @Sobitachi Před rokem +5

      @@xfrostyresonance8614 Brooks is technically so advanced.. the wrist control and everything is just perfect..

  • @hotdogslayer4430
    @hotdogslayer4430 Před 5 lety +8855

    How about next is Simple vs Complex Guitar (ft. Synyster Gates)
    Hahaha

  • @GuitarsRockForever
    @GuitarsRockForever Před 5 lety +562

    Both. Some parts needs simple, some sound better with complex.

    • @giannispaterakis2991
      @giannispaterakis2991 Před 5 lety +3

      Exactly

    • @SynthApprentice
      @SynthApprentice Před 5 lety +6

      As a musician, your priority is to do justice to the track. Drumnastics aren't always appropriate.

    • @schprox
      @schprox Před 5 lety +8

      So basically it needs balance

    • @treatabledisease3258
      @treatabledisease3258 Před 5 lety

      How Switzerland of you

    • @vadimmihaidarov7056
      @vadimmihaidarov7056 Před 5 lety

      I'm from Russia, and it's hard to say to me. My English is not very impressive, but you expressed my opinion. Thank you)

  • @lewy_g_official
    @lewy_g_official Před 2 lety +40

    What Brooks was doing wasn't just complex, but incredibly creative and that's what a lot of people look over.

    • @JacobC479
      @JacobC479 Před 2 měsíci

      Exactly, people think complex usually just means fast and hard. Sometimes you hear something that isn’t necessarily expert level but the creativeness of it and the way it switches the sound is just incredible.

  • @ItsSvetsi
    @ItsSvetsi Před 3 lety +55

    "How close do you want the snare mic, Jared"
    "Yes."

  • @ignaciooo___
    @ignaciooo___ Před 5 lety +1774

    Next video: "Jared Dines Playing with Avenged Sevenfold"
    Next next video: "More details about Jared Dines and Matt Heafy Breakup"

    • @ilkrsrc081
      @ilkrsrc081 Před 5 lety +3

      you meant matt shadows? lol

    • @Adnonnymous
      @Adnonnymous Před 5 lety +34

      @@ilkrsrc081 no, he did a lot of videos with Matt Heafy from trivium a while back

    • @nWoandDX4life
      @nWoandDX4life Před 5 lety +14

      He even played with Trivium during their european tour.

    • @drew9584
      @drew9584 Před 5 lety

      It must have been matts new signature double strap..... Because nothing is more metal than saying im a bigger pussy than anyone else has been over the lifetime of the electric guitar... Guitarists are such pussies. Bitch pick up an ernie ball, play for an hour and tell me your cute little less paul is "too heavy".

    • @iniquity7
      @iniquity7 Před 5 lety +21

      @@drew9584 wtf are u even ranting about, u came up with this whole scenario in ur head, Jesus Christ. What are u ranting about no one even brought up any point in ur rant at all lol. U must have been holding that in for so long it finally exploded haha.
      PS I Love heavy guitars because they sound thicker and fuller

  • @nrchrist
    @nrchrist Před 5 lety +1691

    Combo of both. There were simple pieces that fit way better and complex parts that grooved better

    • @valentinpau1434
      @valentinpau1434 Před 5 lety +7

      Agreed

    • @squilly6
      @squilly6 Před 5 lety +4

      Definitely

    • @Xyncx
      @Xyncx Před 5 lety +45

      Exactly. There are always parts where what the guitarist is doing is more important than what the drummer is doing. Each person knowing when they should come in with something more complex or simple is what makes or breaks a band's sound. If every one is just doing super complex, highly technical stuff all at once, it's hard to pay attention to what's going on, which ultimately detracts from the overall sound of the song.

    • @beccaortiz9029
      @beccaortiz9029 Před 5 lety

      Can't agree more!

    • @dantas6519
      @dantas6519 Před 5 lety

      True

  • @LilyRose-rp5dm
    @LilyRose-rp5dm Před 4 lety +2078

    As much as I like Brooks Wackerman. Let's all have a moment of silence for Jimmy "The Rev" Sullivan. Rest in peace my guy.

    • @jrowland6717
      @jrowland6717 Před 4 lety +69

      You can't beat the drumlines from Beast and the Harlot.. You just can't.. 😪

    • @LilyRose-rp5dm
      @LilyRose-rp5dm Před 4 lety +50

      @@jrowland6717 City of evil itself is just too good to beat.

    • @mariouz313
      @mariouz313 Před 4 lety +52

      @@LilyRose-rp5dm the stage is just as good guys

    • @theritzerclub873
      @theritzerclub873 Před 4 lety +4

      R.I.P. 😢😢

    • @Soybean13
      @Soybean13 Před 4 lety +59

      What?? Respect to my man jimmy but drum line in the beast & the harlot is a generic double bass drumline...the stage is a7x most techincal album they ever released.
      Skill wise brooks is way better than jimmy, but i always choose jimmy over brooks not because the skill but the emotional attachment

  • @matthewkoeppel8742
    @matthewkoeppel8742 Před 4 lety +89

    Versatility and the proper use of both “simple” and “complex styles I think is what’s most important. Some of Jared’s style at the right moments absolutely drove the rhythm and made it sound so much tighter and connected, while Brooks complexity during fills or transitions played into the melody and rhythms of the guitar and made the song sound so much more technically advanced

  • @SlapMyBass3825
    @SlapMyBass3825 Před 5 lety +257

    I love how casual these interactions are. “So I am jamming with the drummer from A7X, no big deal.”

    • @Yigzdrums
      @Yigzdrums Před 5 lety +6

      Rev and brooks come back and do a dual drum battle with dines. Itd be so sickkk

    • @shayanmoosavi9139
      @shayanmoosavi9139 Před 5 lety +4

      @@Yigzdrums rev is dead :(

    • @jakerochelle1484
      @jakerochelle1484 Před 5 lety +5

      Deck O'Donnel rev has been dead for like ten years. Wym

    • @luigialexander3781
      @luigialexander3781 Před 5 lety +3

      @@jakerochelle1484 He is not dead he is just in the woods

    • @joefrayling9263
      @joefrayling9263 Před 5 lety +3

      @@luigialexander3781 true and when he comes back he gunna be the knife master

  • @kaoquinn
    @kaoquinn Před 5 lety +739

    A mixture of both LOL there were parts in the simple that I liked and parts in the complicated that I liked.

    • @fantomagnik
      @fantomagnik Před 5 lety +14

      Yeah this sums it up perfectly tbh

    • @lilyrecords7521
      @lilyrecords7521 Před 5 lety +15

      Yea I think a mixture of both is the better than one of them only

    • @Vanessa-iw9ei
      @Vanessa-iw9ei Před 5 lety +5

      Yess, exactly

    • @nicholai414
      @nicholai414 Před 5 lety +20

      I think that a mix gives the track the feel of breathing. The Simple lets the guitars shine and the Complex brings an energy and sense of urgency to ths mix. Very well done.

    • @jodyshortland9875
      @jodyshortland9875 Před 5 lety +2

      Kevin O'Quinn agreed!! With the some of the transitions from complex to tech and vice versa there were moments where it felt natural to go in that direction. What i did like about both was the change in tempo and both had breaks and fills that built it up and brung it down to headbang along to 🤘 great work from both!! 🥁

  • @andikardian9014
    @andikardian9014 Před 3 lety +163

    Brook's style is much proggy than the simple one, and i love prog metal.

  • @Lucky_2847
    @Lucky_2847 Před 4 lety +34

    Brooks Wakerman though. Jesus Christ. Dude is next level man.

  • @alfonsoturco1697
    @alfonsoturco1697 Před 5 lety +616

    Brooks: OK, when can I start the complex part?
    Jared: what? You already played it.
    Brooks: I was warming up dude

  • @sloth_e
    @sloth_e Před 5 lety +1113

    This vid is a great example of how mixing it up is best. Basic had so much impact after complex. And complex becomes so interesting after some basic . Balance is key.

  • @renegadespaceman
    @renegadespaceman Před 4 lety +49

    Brooks has such a signature style of time-fuckery. This reminded me of the end of "Submission Complete" where Bad Religion basically just uleash him on the end of the track making it awesome squared.

  • @travboat
    @travboat Před 3 lety +25

    I love Brooks' drumming on Bad Religion's "The Empire Strikes First" album, the intensity is straight up relentless on that one.

  • @thebasketballhistorian3291
    @thebasketballhistorian3291 Před 5 lety +1627

    I liked the simple one for keeping the main flow of the song.
    The complex one was better for transitions, the bridge, and the ending.

    • @michaelhodges6493
      @michaelhodges6493 Před 5 lety +35

      I agree 100%. As a drummer myself I follow a rule of k.i.s.s. keep it simple stupid.

    • @brianlovebear
      @brianlovebear Před 5 lety +3

      Agreed

    • @menedon9599
      @menedon9599 Před 5 lety +4

      Yeah agree too.

    • @janobpl
      @janobpl Před 5 lety +4

      Exactly what I was going to write!

    • @ssfguitar
      @ssfguitar Před 5 lety +9

      Musician's in general have to remember to make everything not so busy. Space is always a must.

  • @d-a-e
    @d-a-e Před 5 lety +347

    Drummer’s Goal: To start off playing simple then catch everyone off guard by doing complex shit. Respect is earned as such

    • @jeffbell4434
      @jeffbell4434 Před 5 lety +2

      Lol that's kind of exactly what I always do when showing off in front of a group of people.

    • @theflyingcrud
      @theflyingcrud Před 5 lety +2

      Definitely agree. I think it sounds really good too.

    • @SynthApprentice
      @SynthApprentice Před 5 lety +1

      The respect of other drummers, maybe, but maybe not the respect of your band mates.

    • @matthewd6306
      @matthewd6306 Před 5 lety +1

      Even better write complex Drum parts that don't rely on straight double bass and fills. Incorporate Jazz High hat parts, polyrythms, and african tom beats. Bonus if you can play rudiments on bass drum instead of the typical metal double bass.

    • @theflyingcrud
      @theflyingcrud Před 5 lety +1

      @@matthewd6306 Both ways are fine. I like playing both simple and more complex drum parts. Most important to play to the song. Personally, I typically only use double bass for fills or extra flavor

  • @ZRisyad
    @ZRisyad Před 4 lety +258

    With Jared's drumming sounded like Killswitch Engage song, Brook's sounded like Tool song

  • @GladHe8r
    @GladHe8r Před rokem +7

    I loved how the two styles blended so well throughout the song. There's a time for simple and complex in a song imo.

  • @jeffreydhill
    @jeffreydhill Před 5 lety +306

    My answer to the question of simple or complex is: “Yes.”

  • @AanKhunaifi
    @AanKhunaifi Před 5 lety +732

    next up Simple vs Complex Clarinet ft. Squidward

  • @CapnRiggs2k5
    @CapnRiggs2k5 Před 4 lety +89

    When you can blend a mixture of simple and complexity into the song, you make a song go from good to great. And that simple to complex transition at around @2:35 was just perfect

    • @marjacu3809
      @marjacu3809 Před 4 lety +8

      I think it's the best example to show how both are needed to add complexity to a song without overloading it with detail

    • @garyschu1004
      @garyschu1004 Před 4 lety

      @@marjacu3809 agreed

    • @drwoods
      @drwoods Před 11 měsíci

      agree

  • @apb0327
    @apb0327 Před rokem +21

    Brooks is an amazing drummer and a good guy. Glad he joined A7X. I liked the complex more, but both were good for their own reasons.

  • @miggytiamzon2076
    @miggytiamzon2076 Před 5 lety +154

    Brooks: yeah, this is my "simple."

    • @Julien869
      @Julien869 Před 5 lety +1

      He was like "Wait, I thought you asked ME to do the simple parts."

  • @jesusmallen397
    @jesusmallen397 Před 5 lety +2565

    Next simple vs complex guitars ft Synyster Gates 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼

  • @Somawesomestuff
    @Somawesomestuff Před 4 lety +9

    Brooks has slowly become my favorite drummer. I love his playing style

  • @abagz3919
    @abagz3919 Před 4 lety +245

    I have his drumstick. I caught it when he threw it into the audience

  • @CardboardSliver
    @CardboardSliver Před 5 lety +424

    The complex sounds awesome, but the simple one flowed perfectly with the music

    • @thiendipham835
      @thiendipham835 Před 5 lety

      Cardboard Silver it’s fit with the track as well :D

    • @niccololuciani6701
      @niccololuciani6701 Před 5 lety +1

      That' s why is trivial

    • @nicvv4853
      @nicvv4853 Před 5 lety

      This

    • @electricant55
      @electricant55 Před 5 lety

      Simple flows with the music but the music flows with the complex

    • @TheDwarburton
      @TheDwarburton Před 5 lety +6

      The whole point of the complex is to not only flow with the music but to add it's own properties. Complex is great if it's done correctly, otherwise it'll just sound like it doesn't fit, or it'll take attention away from other elements of the song

  • @natemiller3280
    @natemiller3280 Před 4 lety +1702

    Ok I’m gonna be the one to say it, there was no “age old question” for simplicity or complexity, he just wanted to do a video with Brooks Wackerman

    • @levibeam100
      @levibeam100 Před 4 lety +46

      It is though. Simplicity vs Technicality has always been an argument.

    • @gustavodelacruz646
      @gustavodelacruz646 Před 4 lety +41

      @@levibeam100 i think a mixture of both can do wonders for a song, you can amplify a section of a song that needs it and keep it simple for parts that are good enough on their own

    • @chewypilot5639
      @chewypilot5639 Před 4 lety +10

      Not entirely true, sometimes over complicating it makes it sounds worse or takes away from the song

    • @hazardgaminghg122
      @hazardgaminghg122 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Xxfishman058xX_chad Well he did.

    • @nicknolder7042
      @nicknolder7042 Před 3 lety +4

      Sometimes less is more, sometimes more is more, it depend on the context

  • @MuscleCarsLoveMe
    @MuscleCarsLoveMe Před 3 lety +35

    It really sounded like a drum off between A7X and Breaking Benjamin 😂

  • @SDCB754
    @SDCB754 Před 4 lety +14

    I love how loosely Brooks holds the drumsticks, similar to the way Sean Kinney, of Alice in Chains, holds them.

  • @joefromaccounting7818
    @joefromaccounting7818 Před 4 lety +716

    With a name like Brooks Wackerman, he was DESTINED to be a drummer

    • @randomuser-vs3oe
      @randomuser-vs3oe Před 4 lety +49

      all of his brothers and father are also drummers, making him even more destined.

    • @dasbrando4570
      @dasbrando4570 Před 4 lety +41

      How do you play drums? "Whack er, man"

    • @moderusprime
      @moderusprime Před 4 lety +14

      Or a gardener.

    • @drummerboyarnold3174
      @drummerboyarnold3174 Před 4 lety +1

      Even a Ninja What are you saying 😂😂😂

    • @jc3drums916
      @jc3drums916 Před 4 lety +6

      @@randomuser-vs3oe Two of three brothers are drummers. One is a bassist.

  • @MarktheAirsoftPrimate
    @MarktheAirsoftPrimate Před 5 lety +341

    Holy poops. Brooks timing and rhythm are just other worldly. Both work, in certain parts complex was too much, simple was not enough, either way this is awesome.

    • @krisgardner7160
      @krisgardner7160 Před 5 lety +7

      Brooks was a good fit for a7x because he and the Rev both have a kinda non conventional approach to their rhythms but Brooks and Jimmy are still booth totally unique

    • @michaelhodges6493
      @michaelhodges6493 Před 5 lety +2

      A good transition back and forth from simple to complex would of really been insane. I prefer to keep things simple though

    • @MrCole58
      @MrCole58 Před 5 lety +5

      Somewhere right in the middle, flair is good in moderation and it makes things interesting , but too much can take away from that essential rhythmic foundation. The simple drumming had a very easily identifiable pulse, but it can get boring pretty quick. A combination of the two would be interesting while still retaining utility.

    • @dylanlapenna8513
      @dylanlapenna8513 Před 5 lety +1

      You should CZcams search Terry Bozzio. Honestly he makes Neil Peart from Rush look like a chump.

  • @brandonerickson1851
    @brandonerickson1851 Před 3 lety +9

    I’m convinced that there is absolutely nothing that Brooks can’t play.

  • @MrJoshDrums0490
    @MrJoshDrums0490 Před 3 lety

    Now to the video, both approaches were awesome in their own way!
    Both approaches make the song unique. The simple makes it sound like a radio friendly tune, the complex is down right prog mastery.
    Drums are so important to a song and both approaches are just killer. Awesome video Jared! Amazing drumming Brooks!!

  • @camilogonzalez5728
    @camilogonzalez5728 Před 5 lety +191

    I like both styles. Some songs sounds better simple, others works better with complex techniques. But if it's A7X songs I choose complexity.

    • @emanueltorres3560
      @emanueltorres3560 Před 5 lety +5

      I also like their use of contra melody at slow but also when then it picks up quickly and its still melody and a contra melody and then when drums are just equally as complex it's just an eargasm a lot times I don't even think how are they doing that I just sit back and enjoy.

  • @djr9999
    @djr9999 Před 5 lety +416

    Jared: arms
    Brooks: Wrists

    • @BoY860
      @BoY860 Před 4 lety +20

      It's for visual apeal. If you play a simple beat and don't move it's not as effective visually. Most drummers do it.

    • @andythedrummer9642
      @andythedrummer9642 Před 4 lety +26

      When you play slow beats, usually people use arms. When you get to some faster stuff, u should be using wrists.

    • @andythedrummer9642
      @andythedrummer9642 Před 4 lety

      @Hanafi Ariffin no problem!

    • @augustus9992
      @augustus9992 Před 4 lety +5

      @Hanafi Ariffin And if u play ever faster, you would be using fingers, but that takes a lot of practice.

    • @tonyvercetti8056
      @tonyvercetti8056 Před 4 lety +1

      Brooks is so soft, I like it

  • @ashgr.5860
    @ashgr.5860 Před 3 lety

    oh and the riffs are beautiful. sounds so soothing.

  • @ricogold
    @ricogold Před 3 lety

    Both in succession the way it is in the video is the best. Letting the riffs breathe with simplicity and then adding intricacy for the remaining bars of the same riff is dope.

  • @jackd.95
    @jackd.95 Před 5 lety +436

    I know a7x was trying to find that perfect sound that they got from Jimmy for a long time and they've found it with brooks

    • @enragedmoosemedia
      @enragedmoosemedia Před 5 lety +55

      Couldn't agree more. Brooks fits so perfectly. Still miss the rev though. Miss his vocals and creativity.

    • @stonertheespeon2975
      @stonertheespeon2975 Před 5 lety +36

      Jimmy also sang vocals and played a various amount of instruments. He also wrote some of their best songs. I may miss him dearly because he was taken from us so early but I'm happy they found Brooks, The dude's a beast!

    • @josephotto4816
      @josephotto4816 Před 5 lety +7

      Saw them shortly after Brooks joined, and I was floored. He’s doing a stellar job and his sound meshes so well

    • @blakeunderwood1075
      @blakeunderwood1075 Před 5 lety +7

      No love for Mike Portnoy?

    • @MrEwan13
      @MrEwan13 Před 5 lety +7

      @@blakeunderwood1075 tbh portnoy would fits really well with a7x, brooks were okay,but portnoy on nightmare album for me was much better than brooks on their latest album. just my opinion though

  • @aidanl5611
    @aidanl5611 Před 5 lety +172

    next update video
    "Hi guys,
    just a quick update. my good friend brooks from A7X has asked me to tour with them."

  • @joshuakarlsen740
    @joshuakarlsen740 Před 3 lety +2

    Sick riff and bass line!

  • @Keitel300
    @Keitel300 Před rokem +3

    Always keep coming back,just to see how a monster of drummer is Brooks,insane!

  • @Trolejbusek
    @Trolejbusek Před 5 lety +1213

    Combine those two together and you basically have a Dream Theater song

    • @Gyrossteeltesticles24
      @Gyrossteeltesticles24 Před 5 lety +67

      Rather coincidental since Portnoy played on Nightmare

    • @jamesdong8179
      @jamesdong8179 Před 5 lety +5

      Or at least the drum track, but yea

    • @Cobalt985
      @Cobalt985 Před 5 lety +33

      Haha, exactly what I was thinking. Portnoy has always been amazing at combining complex parts with simpler parts to form a more complete whole.

    • @chriskrausesmovie
      @chriskrausesmovie Před 5 lety +14

      Jared theater

    • @WillMaskellTaylor
      @WillMaskellTaylor Před 5 lety

      More like Oceans ate alaska or something

  • @mexidancer
    @mexidancer Před 5 lety +40

    This was really just like watching Brooks be Brooks and Jared giving us time to process what Brooks was playing

  • @JustButtahOfficial
    @JustButtahOfficial Před 4 lety +16

    If this is how Brooks plays normally, imagine if on the next A7X album he got a drum solo.

  • @Paul-dq8os
    @Paul-dq8os Před 3 lety

    Jared, first off I'll say I enjoyed the video, it was great. I also wanted to mention I appreciate how you adopt the "easier" skillset when you have guests on your channel and let them show off. Like we know you can play better than what you're playing here. But you're letting your guest be the one who shows off and be the one who looks more skilled. Kudos to you man, that's incredibly decent of you

  • @trollmaster333
    @trollmaster333 Před 5 lety +571

    Ask Syn to take part in 2019's biggest shred collab

    • @JustCarMuh
      @JustCarMuh Před 5 lety +64

      Syn alone would demolish everyone else

    • @benmacdonald5445
      @benmacdonald5445 Před 5 lety +12

      Slxxpy Kxrma Except Angel Vivaldi. You don’t beat Angel Vivaldi.

    • @zeth9526
      @zeth9526 Před 5 lety +10

      @Ashish Gupta Synyster Gates - A7x's main guitarist

    • @ZackTheNever
      @ZackTheNever Před 5 lety +1

      I 1000% agree with this

    • @zaidaljundi3462
      @zaidaljundi3462 Před 5 lety +10

      Have him get zacky as well and they can play together at the same time

  • @novoice9286
    @novoice9286 Před 5 lety +252

    when youre a new drummer: "theyre both complex, i see no difference"

  • @endofhearts9987
    @endofhearts9987 Před 3 lety

    Complex definitely gave it life for me . I did not realize how important drums where to the feel. Thank you.

  • @jonrichards1989
    @jonrichards1989 Před 4 lety

    Both have their place together in a well put together song. Great job

  • @thetalentedmrrapley
    @thetalentedmrrapley Před 5 lety +155

    The best drummers utilise both. But as a drummer I have to love the complex.
    4:33 is perfection

  • @theheritic209
    @theheritic209 Před 5 lety +250

    Obviously the last name Wackerman bestows drum powers on whoever has it.
    Cause Chad Wackerman is crazy too.

    • @danepresley7851
      @danepresley7851 Před 5 lety +2

      Pretty sure one of them was Holdsworths drummer

    • @theheritic209
      @theheritic209 Před 5 lety +4

      Dane Presley oh u know ur fusion.
      and that was Chad.

    • @truthhelps2012
      @truthhelps2012 Před 5 lety +4

      Zappa too. The the list is actually very long for Brooks, Chad and John.

    • @danepresley7851
      @danepresley7851 Před 5 lety +3

      They are quite accomplished and extremely talented

    • @theheritic209
      @theheritic209 Před 5 lety +2

      Michael Comminos u just schooled me cause i didn’t know there was a John Wackerman

  • @TrulydaMoosey
    @TrulydaMoosey Před 3 lety

    Your love of coming along for the ride is well-'demon'strated. The natural swing you use for rolling on cymbals alone really shows your talent while staying humble.
    As a fellow musician of multiple traits, keep doing you, and thanks!

  • @D-Man_Jam
    @D-Man_Jam Před 4 lety +468

    That's simple? I thought when you said "simple" you were talkin' AC/DC 'simple'.

    • @michaelcoknballs4757
      @michaelcoknballs4757 Před 4 lety +40

      lars simpol

    • @UhOh_ItzJDX
      @UhOh_ItzJDX Před 3 lety +8

      well then it’d just be boring, that double bass does wonders

    • @bassandbaits287
      @bassandbaits287 Před 3 lety +8

      Simple is different than basic because no disrespect to AC/DC but they use a simple rock beat

    • @zackstump5425
      @zackstump5425 Před 3 lety

      Lmao

    • @corruptedstudiosentertainm3455
      @corruptedstudiosentertainm3455 Před 3 lety +2

      @@Seiryuu03 I think you're seriously underestimating how much harder that process was in those days. Things you can throw together in a DAW in thirty minutes could sometimes take three or four days. It just wasn't viable when you could mic things up and play and get the whole song recorded in a day or two rather than one section of a drum loop in three or four.

  • @wishnewsky
    @wishnewsky Před 5 lety +60

    This mash-up of simple and complex is actually the best IMO

  • @echoesreflected8243
    @echoesreflected8243 Před 5 lety +391

    Shred wars with Synyster Gates next please!!!

  • @manishmanbert8592
    @manishmanbert8592 Před 2 lety +1

    i come to this video every once in a while just to admire brook's wrist movement. it's like he has left his hand dead and is only working with his arms. he's so loose on his wrist, it's amazing.

  • @patmccrotch5373
    @patmccrotch5373 Před 2 lety +5

    I fell in love with Brooks when he played for Bad Religion, love seeing that he's getting love from more than just the punk community! Dude is an absolute monster on drums. Jared's pretty damn good himself though, great all around musician for sure!

  • @holyordersoftheemperorsinq246

    Simple for chorus, intro and breakdowns.
    Complex for lyrics, climax, tempo/key change and outro.

  • @TheNerdyGinger
    @TheNerdyGinger Před 4 lety +197

    Brooks is really good at making things complex but tasteful. Wasn’t a fan of his first two segments, but the rest were all great. I especially loved his performance around 2:00

    • @RileyAiC
      @RileyAiC Před 3 lety

      the trampoline wrestling master himself again? good day

    • @TheNerdyGinger
      @TheNerdyGinger Před 3 lety

      @@RileyAiC 😁

    • @ExternusArmy
      @ExternusArmy Před 2 lety +3

      @@RileyAiC I think the simple just becomes boring over time. I mean how many times are you gonna hear the same on beat rhythm? Brooks is crushing totally new rhythms like every bar, it’s absolutely insane

  • @JeeTee_
    @JeeTee_ Před 3 lety +1

    I just got to say this but Jared is so talented. All of his guitar tracks sound so cool! Thanks Jared for making cool vids!

  • @codyclark2780
    @codyclark2780 Před 2 lety

    Both of you guys’ techniques are pretty sick. Each of you have your own flavor to add in. I think your style is what can make anybody wanna take up drumming & jam to a genre like this. Wackermans style here looks like it’s made for the more advance drummers’ eyes to feast upon, watching. It’s hard to decide.

  • @sohamadhikari2550
    @sohamadhikari2550 Před 5 lety +346

    Brooks starts playing the complex part.
    *LARS HAS LEFT THE CHAT*

    • @nukepacifista9188
      @nukepacifista9188 Před 5 lety +2

      HAHA! Lars was buried alive by the beast and the harlot to the afterlife like a rock, like a planet, like a fucking atom boooomb

    • @putuaditiyapratama7010
      @putuaditiyapratama7010 Před 5 lety +1

      😁😂

    • @aadarshthomasraj5018
      @aadarshthomasraj5018 Před 5 lety +2

      Lmao have you even seen Lars Ulrich cover dream theater's metropolis?

    • @Phildo117
      @Phildo117 Před 5 lety

      Always the one idiot with the Lars comment. Shut up

    • @sohamadhikari2550
      @sohamadhikari2550 Před 5 lety

      @@DestroyTheMindless Thanks for checking my profile xD. Please do subscribe :'3

  • @seventrials7989
    @seventrials7989 Před 5 lety +354

    Brooks it's a cool guy, Jimmy will proud to him
    #foREVer

    • @dankweed5049
      @dankweed5049 Před 5 lety +3

      Well they have a thing for taking drummers from their favorite bands (dream theatre,confide and bad religion) since he passed

    • @judgeshred9872
      @judgeshred9872 Před 5 lety

      Aziz Arzad i like what you did with that hashtag homie #REZpect

    • @judgeshred9872
      @judgeshred9872 Před 5 lety

      Meant to say revspect haha

    • @swat_ape3920
      @swat_ape3920 Před 5 lety +7

      Jimmy still needs to come back as the knife master... foREVer 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻

    • @sultanalif.m3137
      @sultanalif.m3137 Před 5 lety +4

      #foREVer

  • @justinbowen1183
    @justinbowen1183 Před 3 lety

    That open closed high hat that brooks was doing sounded fantastic and added some great feel to it. It followed the rhythm track perfectly.

  • @thomasrowland2869
    @thomasrowland2869 Před 4 lety +2

    The complex drumming makes them almost sound like different songs to me. Amazing.

  • @laneneece8815
    @laneneece8815 Před 5 lety +251

    Jared: did you guys enjoy the complex fills or the simple fills more
    Me: yes
    And were is the djent 2019 with Stevie
    And shred wars with gates

    • @skylargibson8599
      @skylargibson8599 Před 5 lety +4

      Lane Neece as much as I love Jared Gates would massacre him

    • @laneneece8815
      @laneneece8815 Před 5 lety +1

      Skylar Gibson true but it would be fun

  • @anony_meows
    @anony_meows Před 5 lety +66

    it's not a matter of simplicity vs complexity. this is a matter of which grooove suits better with the song

    • @sykosis1192
      @sykosis1192 Před 5 lety +1

      Yeah but even then that depends on personal taste as well, someone may find a complex groove fits it, someone else may find a simple groove fits it

    • @sykosis1192
      @sykosis1192 Před 5 lety +1

      Which is the point of the video, it's seeing which ones people prefer/think suit the song the most

  • @MrSnotrock3t
    @MrSnotrock3t Před 3 lety

    I LOVE the dynamic of going between simple and complex patterns more than anything. What I'd REALLY love to hear is this same thing but on the same kit same mics (when the pandemic subsides obviously)

  • @tylerclark1801
    @tylerclark1801 Před 4 lety

    Very intrigued by some of Brooks’s ride work and his use of groove very enjoyable video

  • @midenking9651
    @midenking9651 Před 5 lety +67

    A blend of both! Knowing when to spunk your load and when not too is what creates amazing drum tracks.

    • @MrToco32
      @MrToco32 Před 5 lety

      Truth

    • @Cole-uz4xi
      @Cole-uz4xi Před 5 lety

      That's what makes Wackerman such a great drummer, in my opinion

  • @Lastdragonrider88
    @Lastdragonrider88 Před 5 lety +212

    2:47-3:00 was perfect. Complex, incredibly musical and complementing the rest of what was going on so well.

    • @creatinovic
      @creatinovic Před 5 lety +4

      my favorite part, too :)

    • @compulsive_curiosity
      @compulsive_curiosity Před 5 lety +3

      made better by the drop back to a simple beat. anyone who argues purely for one or the other misses the point of variety!

    • @jnkny
      @jnkny Před 5 lety

      William Machado just wanted to write exactly that 👍😄

    • @Lastdragonrider88
      @Lastdragonrider88 Před 5 lety

      @@compulsive_curiosity Of course, but this part stood out as a perfect example of what complexity coupled with great musicality can achieve, even taken out of context and just heard on its own, this part still shines as an incredible and mature musical statement. Obviously this section is creating tension that will be resolved with the drop, Brooks understands that and enhanced the tension to its absolutely highest point before the 'drop', the drop wouldn't feel so good if the tension part wasn't so expertly done (and vice versa as you state), so both parts are working together.

  • @ericjensen6034
    @ericjensen6034 Před 4 lety

    I love them both....i cant decide...togther especially sounded amazing

  • @BernardoGrillo
    @BernardoGrillo Před 4 lety

    Both part mixed together just like so! Combination of simple and complex part is definitely the way to go! Great video and Idea man!

  • @singningwongho
    @singningwongho Před 4 lety +329

    Jared, You're solid. Brooks, is amazing. Brooks' drumming on The Stage album is mind-blowing.

    • @xforever923
      @xforever923 Před 4 lety +4

      I know! God damn is one of the best songs ever

    • @hazardgaminghg122
      @hazardgaminghg122 Před 4 lety +1

      @@xforever923 the drums on that song are crazy.

    • @monzxsa
      @monzxsa Před 4 lety

      HazardGamingHG its not, but ok

    • @singningwongho
      @singningwongho Před 4 lety

      @@monzxsa So you're a percussionist now?

    • @monzxsa
      @monzxsa Před 4 lety

      singningwongho what was i before?

  • @getsosavage9841
    @getsosavage9841 Před 5 lety +92

    Alternating should be the way. That way it isn't too simple nor too complex

    • @ewan_mclean
      @ewan_mclean Před 5 lety +1

      TheRedLester 22 I think so as well. Event though my music is more electronic, some concepts always relate

    • @v0lve3321
      @v0lve3321 Před 5 lety +1

      Was looking for this!

    • @swat_ape3920
      @swat_ape3920 Před 5 lety +1

      I agree

    • @TacTicMint
      @TacTicMint Před 5 lety +1

      Complex builds tension and simple releases.

  • @pugzly5356
    @pugzly5356 Před 2 lety

    You should keep going with this series! Every drummer has their own style and it’s amazing to see the differences every drummer has.
    TOOL

  • @AlldeLucas
    @AlldeLucas Před 3 lety

    My favorita is the mix of both. No doubt about that! I love a simples beat of a tast of complex stuff once in a while.

  • @arcadedomination8006
    @arcadedomination8006 Před 4 lety +247

    2:33 is actually the perfect transition.

    • @ThePedroaugustobc
      @ThePedroaugustobc Před 4 lety +5

      That's bat country transition, you can hear it in the end of bat country - at that ballad part right after "my vision is so unclear"

    • @kalvinruth8571
      @kalvinruth8571 Před 4 lety

      #Accurate

  • @abhisekpanda5165
    @abhisekpanda5165 Před 5 lety +168

    Dream became true.... A7X and jared dines are in one video

    • @sethvaughn1931
      @sethvaughn1931 Před 5 lety +1

      Mr. Panda so I wasn’t the only one who screamed?

  • @Teamcurtisbjj
    @Teamcurtisbjj Před 4 lety +2

    Great video! Brooks is one of my favorite drummers!

  • @brianchisnell1548
    @brianchisnell1548 Před 4 lety

    I did like the RK hardware on that sweet looking kit. Nice touch.

  • @lucaseduardo9097
    @lucaseduardo9097 Před 5 lety +288

    what a drummer avenged has now days, Brooks destroys it man.

    • @TheFreekill17
      @TheFreekill17 Před 5 lety +36

      The Rev will always be the best Aveneged drummer though

    • @DerrickRG
      @DerrickRG Před 5 lety +37

      @@TheFreekill17 Not really bud. The best drummer to ever sit behind a kit for Avenged was Portnoy.

    • @TheFreekill17
      @TheFreekill17 Před 5 lety +47

      @@DerrickRG portnoy is a fuckin God but The Rev always glued the tracks together *perfectly*

    • @TheFreekill17
      @TheFreekill17 Před 5 lety +7

      @@DerrickRG all my opinion though, bud.

    • @rippindrummer666
      @rippindrummer666 Před 5 lety +20

      Brooks is better than the rev and portnoy. Portnoy is one of the most overrated drummers of all time, if you think he’s the best you haven’t heard many prog drummers. Go lookup mike portnoy vs billy Rymer drum battle, Billy rymer straight up embarrasses Portnoy.

  • @the.Aruarian
    @the.Aruarian Před 5 lety +178

    Having a complex rhythm section requires that the rest of the band is competent enough, though. 😂

    • @SilkandScrooge
      @SilkandScrooge Před 5 lety +8

      Dave Blink 182 proves you wrong. Travis Barkers drum parts are crazy compared to those other two chumps.

    • @fromtimesinkingdoms9144
      @fromtimesinkingdoms9144 Před 5 lety +1

      Dirty Loops has some decently simple pop stuff but their bassist is EXTREMELY complex

    • @Javier11506
      @Javier11506 Před 5 lety

      @@SilkandScrooge although the other two destroy Travis Barker technique wise. Travis has speed but unlike Brooks he doesn't have the independace or groove which 9/10 are more important in drumming.

    • @kennyjimenez8713
      @kennyjimenez8713 Před 5 lety

      True, I mean just look at Tool

    • @casualcoup798
      @casualcoup798 Před 5 lety +1

      javier gardea I think he meant Mark and Tom as the “other two chumps”

  • @nicolabertani6952
    @nicolabertani6952 Před 3 lety

    What a great song! both version!

  • @newbeginning1510
    @newbeginning1510 Před rokem

    This video was such a treat to watch can’t believe I just saw this today

  • @sideslick1024
    @sideslick1024 Před 5 lety +395

    It almost sound to me like Brooks' parts are acting like the drum fills to your (relatively) basic riding.
    They compliment each other very well.
    I'd love to hear full songs with each style, rather than the back-and-forth that this video provides.

  • @BasicMacik
    @BasicMacik Před 5 lety +405

    Simple sounded best for easycore/metalcore. Complex was real proggy/groovy

    • @es0teric76
      @es0teric76 Před 5 lety +5

      Completely agree. Exactly what I was thinking

    • @silentechotwd4868
      @silentechotwd4868 Před 5 lety +8

      Agreed. I liked elements of the complex, but could only take a song or two before needing a breather. The simple is a good constant head banger that I would feel fine listening to for hours on end.

    • @nostrum7278
      @nostrum7278 Před 5 lety +6

      Tbh I gave points to each beat, and it came 4-5 in prefernce and this kinda says that its good to have some fills and complex beats besides a simple catchy beat.

    • @KuroShiiiro
      @KuroShiiiro Před 5 lety +1

      Nick Macik Brooks is a great groovy drummer and A7x's music sounds great because of it, man ..

    • @millerhxc
      @millerhxc Před 5 lety +1

      Exactly... although this now begs the question: Which genre is better????

  • @vladimirstroganoff4404

    I love both versions to be honest + both versions sounds good together like this.