The FULL Timeline of Min Hee Jin's Feud with Bang Si Hyuk & HYBE
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- The feud between Min Hee Jin and HYBE's Bang Si Hyuk started years ago. It all escalated to HYBE officially asking Min Hee Jin to step down from her position as CEO of ADOR. But when did it all really start?!
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7:58 $11.7 billion USD -> $11.7 Million USD
Hybe’s net worth is about 6-7billion..idk how anyone would believe they gave MHJ 12 billion for NJ. 💀 but then again these are the same people that believe MHJ used black magic to send BTS to the military even if they live in a country where military service is mandatory. 🤦🏽♀️
Ni har fått det hela om bakfoten 😂😂😂
And yet she’s the highest paid CEO in HYBE, kicked BTS out of the top floor and BangPD helped pay for her shares, she was given her own label….what is your point? You give her a dime, she wants to whole store!
@@DaisyDee5610Why would they kick BTS out. Obviously HYBE planned it that way as they prepared for a gh debut. Don't be ridiculous. They did a whole audition which lasted months. That requires a lot of space. Smh.
@@AN-Thecouragetolookforwardthank you, reasonable, rational person!
It's crazy that they wouldn't put their own artist's new song (NewJeans' Bubblegum) on Spotify which is the largest music streaming platform right now. It's obvious Hybe isn't trying to "protect" NewJeans
Their lack of talent makes it clear that the Lesserrafim debuted hastily
Lack of training not lack of talent.
Newjeans are the ones lacking talent.
@@MissNAL_1I'm gonna second @Userqfx here. There's a lot of Kpop idols that had short training period before. Sunmi for example, she only trained in JYP for like a month before debuting with Wonder Girls. Some talented trainees had long training before debut (like Twice Jihyo, 10 frickin years!) due to readiness and other circumstances.
LSF are average on talents needed to be kpop idols so the short training period doesn't help them at all. What baffles me tho, they had Sakura and Chaewon but still comes out as bad as an unprepared kids doing presentation in class.
It's kind of both. Most, if not all, have raw talent but not well-balanced. Management just didn't care. They made an all-around performing group, sort of like the ITZY archetype, without sharpening the tools.
Ador has best Vocals in Hybe ❤
Not only that, Bang Shi Hyuk doesn’t have a single picture with NewJeans, the only girl group in their company who won the billboard award, and the biggest girl group in Hybe lol. Everything makes sense now lol
Le Sserafim are bigger then Newjeans. They have higher music video views and more album sales. MHJ used playlistening for newjeans to get high streams on Spotify.
He only takes photos with groups he produced pf course newjeans wouldn't appear
@@hybekickgaram4830 Their Coachella was hella embarrassing tho 🤡🤣💀
@@hybekickgaram4830yet, the previous group is disbanding.
@@hybekickgaram4830le sserafim
Is not bigger then newjeans 💀
Currently, part-time workers at HYBE are being called in to instigate and slander Min Hee Jin and New Jeans in the comments. All the news articles in Korea are in favor of HYBE, and the comments are all insulting Min Hee Jin. Additionally, Korean choreographers have admitted that ILLIT copied many of New Jeans' choreographies. HYBE is trying to ruin New Jeans. There isn't a single photo of New Jeans with Bang Shi Hyuk. In contrast, Le Serafim and ILLIT have photos with Bang Shi Hyuk. Also, during award ceremonies, Le Serafim and ILLIT thanked Bang Shi Hyuk, but New Jeans thanked Min Hee Jin. If it weren't for Min Hee Jin, New Jeans would have changed their concept to something weird like Girlfriend and suddenly disbanded. Currently, New Jeans' fashion style and music have become a trend for many people. Moreover, securing luxury brand ambassadorships was also a result of Min Hee Jin's direct contacts, and this time, there was also collaboration with a famous Japanese artist. Bang Shi Hyuk is just garbage.
한국인으로서 맞는 말
im actually happy someone went against hybe that company is weird as fck
And they won't have a downfall it's like how SM, YG and Cube are still active
Nothing special
Right. HYBE is shady from the very start upto me
@@Daisy-ue9vkmmm they not part of the big 3 is just sm , jyp and yg
It pisses me off how many mainly young people take hybes side, a huge mega corporation, just because they are either a company stan (which is f*cking weird) or because they hate Min Hee Jin which is a valid personal opinion but its very obvious who’s the “bad one “ in this specific situation. Like common.
Min Heejin is very creepy. From what we know she is worse then Hybe. Heejin has explicit pictures of underages. She also said a movie that objectifies underage Brooke Shields is her favorite movie. That psycho should never be allowed to go near children.
Lets be real. It so obvious Hybe wanted to scrap NJ and made a new GG with the same concept. They even released Bubblegum without any trailer and only a few hours after Jennie's collab. There was an intention to sabotage the group. They wanted NJ song to be overshadowed by Jennie's collab. But GOOD thing the song was a hit. Why would a company release a back to back release in a few hours in between. A new few days is understandable but hours?
The reasoning made sense
It was up to Ador to do all the promotions. If they failed to promote put the blame where it should be. You cannot claim to be a CEO and not promote your own group and expect Hybe to do it.
hybe had repeatedly stated that they use sub labels and ador is in charge of new jeans promotions if you don’t want them to flop stream and ask ador for better promotions cause you’re literally reaching
makes sense
BSH is a very hateful man. He set out to destroy this woman. I do not believe anything that horrible man has to say.
BangPD all rushing Lesserafim to debut instead of Newjewns now see where lesserafim now, scrutinized heavily from their coachella mess! what a shame. and it was Newjeans debut that saved them from never-ending Garam scandal back in the days which they mishandled as well. the girl was INNOCENT
Fr that’s laughable and embarrassing at the same time
Fucking innocent.
Garam was innocent? She never bullied the girl?
@@harana-she defended her friend from the bully
i really don’t understand how people are finding this “drama” “entertaining” like it’s genuinely frustrating to me, i feel bad for new jeans and all the other groups who are catching fire from this whole drama. it’s awful. all this company shit ultimately will just affect the artists.
Fr
It is entertaining for non Hybe fans. It’s bad for any Artists stuck in the between of this mess, not even NewJeans but also ILlIT, Le Sserafim. I hope best things for them but qt the same time I want to see how MHJ and Hybe high position managers will go down in the public eyes. No right or wrong in this situation anymore since they brought artist into this mess. Both parties suck.
Its the Western fans they always bring their ghettoness and ratchetness
Exactly
It's of course entertaining to those who have suffered endless bullying by 10 times bigger fandoms and guess which company they're from. Regardless, yes everyone loses. EVERYONE has already lost something, except a few men on top. It's now clear as day: Hybe big bosses Bang Scooter Park could just snap a finger and the whole Kpop will go up in flame. They can clone and trash NewJeans, their latest biggest money maker, well, no idol is safe. Not in Hybe, not in Kpop. NONE. IT's laughable the bottomfeeders are fixated on the witch, when the far scarier implication is, from a Hybe boardroom perspective, there are no artists no music no heart no soul, just DISPOABLE products. Any Kpop fans who deny that are either delusional or Hybe shills.
The chronology of events makes so much sense
"Chronology?" That's an advanced vocabulary word. Go off! lol no but seriously, it really does.
Where doesnt it make sense?
@@soysauceboy2023 “The term ‘chronology’ constitutes an esoteric lexicon, irrespective of your willingness to acknowledge it. Perhaps a more assiduous pursuit of erudition would be prudent.
and how dare Hybe using BTS as shield to turn Armys against MHJ & Newjeans
This is what we should be upset about!!!
Min Heejin is a creep. Look into her controversies. She has pictures of underages she should not have.
Yes. As an Army I was pissed. And even more seeing that so many Armys fell right for it, no questions asked.
I’m sorry, but my loyalty is only to BTS, not Hybe or even BSH at this point. It was a very dirty move from them.
The audience not dumb
Shape the stories how you want, hey, BSH, they’re not slow
(Kendrick was talking to Drake but it was fitting the situation )
always.
13:04 Korean netizens found that the reply was sent a minute before Hybe launched the (audit) investigation. So MHJ couldn't confirm it that time. Hybe's media manipulations are disgusting and that is why MHJ gets more trust and sympathy from Korean generel public.
for a corporation, I'd say HYBE is proceeding rather lightly.
And who cares? Public sympathy won't save her from jail.
@@bqanto ah yes ! you think she's going to jail over kakao messages? Dont be silly, also her lawyer said that he was very confused about hybe's accusations and that he was eagerly awaiting their police report because their accusations had no basis...it's obviously just bang si hyuk thinking she would have quit under the pressure but she didn't and now he has to deal with the consequences of his smear campaign
@@delia8162 Do you think Bang PD will send you home a package with all the evidence in it? The complaint has been made and the investigations are underway, we will see what the judges say.
감옥 같은 소리 하네ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 방시혁이 민희진 공격해서 시총이 1조 날아갔는데 곧 방시혁이 감옥 갈거다.
Hybe is the bigger fish in this picture and yet it has been the one leaking informations/ misinformations, it usually happens the other way. Besides, the SK society is more forgiving of men involved in scandals. I hope MHJ and new jeans survive this unscathed
Yup Hybe is truly looking very cunning and fake. They lost all integrity
True
@@soysauceboy2023Sounds like MHJ.
I know but MHJ WILL win I am in her support
MHJ will win... By going to jail 😂
even they fix this or this issue ends. the relationship of everyone involved will never be the same
That’s why I think it’s best for Hybe to let them leave the company. Give MinHeeji what she wants and wish her well.
@@philxina5625Hybe is too greedy for it to happen
wish her well, sure. why not.
give her what she wants? you do not understand business at all.
@@philxina5625
@@philxina5625 Are you joking? MHJ wants $200 million and NJ. Do you know Hybe paid for NJ's training, debut, MVs and promotion, right? MHJ should walk away with one hand in front and one hand behind, straight towards jail.
@@bqanto Jail are u JOKING? NJ should leave hybe and partner with other compnay and MHJ could go her way idk why they makin such fuss
It’s giving misogyny, he sounds like he’s just jealous of her success because he had nothing to do with it and knew it.
Bingo. Thats him to a T. Always jealous when he's not part of the success. Also just imagine all the scandals his favorite gg went through compared to NewJeans smooth success with almost no music promo from the label. Even now, Bang PD said he's the reason for BTS success. Hmm no. BTS is the reason for their own success! And same with NewJeans
Hybe had everything to do with New Jeans success. Without Hybe’s name that talentless group with bad music and terrible visual would have flopped.
@@vixxexo6855 definitely not true at all because all HYBE did was give them money. Zero promotion. Zero effort. You can try to defend HYBE and claim they “made” Newjeans but the proof is in the pudding. Everyone is copying Newjeans no one even cares to attempt what LE SSERAFIM is doing.
@@vixxexo6855 MHJ selected the songs and the branding image and concepts, not HYBE. To even think HYBE has the creative ability to make a group such a Newjeans knowing they only have true success with boy groups is hilarious.
@@vixxexo6855 clearly you don’t know about her extensive successful career. Clearly HYBE was desperate for her and when she didn’t fall in line with what they wanted or HE wanted rather, they said she had to go.
The way I cackled when I heard Billie Eilish concept group 😂 5:23
I think the Billie Eilish concept was that of All the Good Girls Go to Hell as it makes sense for Le Serrafim.
After what happened to GFRIEND, I'm not surprised at all how sketchy of a corporation HYBE is..Imagine releasing a massively successful comeback (MAGO) and then suddenly your group is ordered to disband, gets kicked out of the dorm and left hanging with no explanation at all...I am by no means shading Le Sserafim here (the girls are innocent in this too), it's the going-ons behind the scenes and the higher-ups' play that caused this whole mess...
This is another delusional invention. GFriends didn't renew their contract when it expired, all of them. So of course they also had to leave the dorm. And obviously the group disbanded. The girls broke it up, not Hybe.
@@bqanto The members themselves have been saying repeatedly that they knew about their disbandment through media news, so no! 🤡
It was hyɓe who play dirty on them.. 💀
@@flor07 Many times I have read statements like "this person specifically said this repeatedly on several live streams or in several videos", and it was absolutely not true. First of all, many people make these statements WITHOUT having seen the video, but simply repeating what they read. Secondly, there are people with emotional disorders who "interpret" the idols' statements in the sense that their mind deems best suited to their, usually psychotic, worldview. Since my source of information are official sites, official channels, CZcamsrs that I consider reliable, I know that my information is reliable. Especially when I read bullshit like "the agency terminated the contract without telling the other contractor", who among other things lives in a dormitory paid for by the agency, I understand that the author of the post is a silly who is navigating her anime-world.
@@bqanto Hyɓe it's not going to accept it.. But believe what you want.. 🤷🏽♀️
So basically big man baby BangShiHyuk failed LSFM and due to NJ success and not wanting to give Mhj proper compensation. He decides to create NJ clones who can’t even sing??? I know money can run the world. He can definitely catapult illit with the money he has but all integrity is lost! We support Mhj and NJ. Hybe can suck it
New Jeans can’t sing either. They are same level as illit.
I wouldn't say LSFM failed. At the of the day, it doesn't really matter how talented you are but how profitable you are, and LSFM still is. Higher management people have frail egos so its possible that they just want to get back at MHJ
it's actually funny that Min heejin have all proof from timeline that matched the reality, she also didn't need to use any script and showing people that she tell a story from her memory only, and also the way HYBE literally shaming her using non-evidence lies like "she's working with shaman" - like bruh, are they really have brain...? which is creepy that HYBE following her activity in her private like a stalker. You know, HYBE is like those gossip girl that accused other with no evidence and make their own perspective to match their fake storyline.
Hybe reported MHJ and turned the evidence over to the court.
When the court evidence start to be exposed I hope you're here saying they are a gossip girl company...lol...
Min Hee Jin's proof is for matters that are irrelevant to the situation. Her proof doesn't dispute the claims made against her
U're funny and dumb at the same time
HYBE have released the following:
On the claim we promised to debut [NewJeans] as our first girl group
This is part of why we have already answered in detail in the email sent to CEO Min on April 22. We suspect the reason why CEO Min claims she did not receive an email is because she cannot make provocative and false claims if she has read the email. We sent the detailed answer below.
'CEO Min is making false claims based on your own distorted way of interpretation about the separation from Source Music. The reason NewJeans could not debut as HYBE's first girl group is not because HYBE did not keep our promise. At the time, you strongly insisted you would debut [NewJeans] under your own separate label while requesting to form a team under your responsiblity. HYBE respected your opinion and transferred the members to ADOR despite the opposition of Source Music and provided funds amounting to 16 billion won ($11,627,315.20 USD), so NewJeans could debut in the way you wanted. In this process, NewJeans' debut schedule could not help but be delayed regardless of HYBE's intention due to company's division and the transfer of contracts.
Moreover, you yourself revealed this process before. In an interview with a media outlet on March 24, 2022, you directly mentioned the girl group project will proceed under your plan and the launch will be in the third quarter of 2022. You even remarked, 'A rushed debut can only be a big burden on young members. I don't want to make everyone feel rushed, so I set the third quarter of 2022 as the launch time.'"
Bruh i just love how min hee jin defend newjeans no matter what the evidence or the risk she is a strong woman ✊
She is defending herself, New Jeans are the innocent party here. BTS fans feel that Hybe is using BTS as a shield but she is doing that exactly by bringing New Jeans and their parents into the equation.
She’s nuts
@@Alice-gr6psshe’s a creative genius
If she really cared about them, she wouldn’t be in this mess. She’s toxic and creepy.
@@alwenawillis8813 same shit, im not here to argue but she is one of the strongest woman’s i’ve seen so far like exposing everyone ? Damn i like a bit of a drama, i also know that newjeans are innocent but they are on her side and love her so much i just feel like bang pd nim doesn’t deserve this beautiful group he didn’t even congratulate them bruh i hate him, also this whole matter should be done in private in person, ador be writing letters online to hybe and start a fight in public which will ruin the company and the groups reputation, but i hope nothing happens to the newjeans and min heejin also illit
I don’t understand K-pop companies hating on groups under their own label/labels. Specially when they are doing well, the artists are bringing you money. Treat them well
Egos. Their egos are too inflated and the fact that it’s a woman behind this successful group it hurts their ego even more.
As *@izadorad* mentioned, egos. But also, influence. MHJ does not appear to be part of Bang Si-Hyuk and Park Ji-Won's inner circle of followers. Meaning, MHJ's success grants her more influence and power within the company which reduces their influence and power.
It’s the fact HE didn’t make it successful and a woman did.
Because they were known as MHJ (only) group not Bang PD and MHJ group 🤣🤣
Because they were known as MHJ (only) group not Bang PD and MHJ group 🤣🤣
So basically hybe tried to use minheejin talent and popularity for their profit whereas she was promised something else when she joined. And minheejin being her , she rebelled. And all this drama happened?
dude no. she was employed and paid for her work. (one of the highest paid employees ever in the company)
if u work for a company and they pay you, sure pple will recognise you for your work and style, its how pple build portfolios, work experience etc. But the product belongs to the company.
this is how it works in EVERY company.
if she wanted NJ to be truly her own, she shouldve started her own companh, got her own employess and her own trainees, trained them and put her own money in the making of said group then yeah,, its her own. But she hasn't.
would you invest in a dying, unpopular company that's losing money everyday with no profits? no.
Yes, Hybe has basically been using her. Now they want to get rid of her and are looking for any excuse, and the Armys are complicit in it.
Does MHJ even have talent besides ripping off american movies?
@@soysauceboy2023 or MHJ would have the brains to know that she doesn't own a concept
@@malinaa99so basically, HYBE liked MHJ’s copied concept and made it his own? 🙈
HYBE is playing is dirty rn…NewJeans, we must protect them!😭
NJ yes. but I'm not keen on MHJ getting want she wants.
BTS didnt work hard just for some else to do this all because their feelings were hurt.
Hybe gave the NJs 5 million dollars each as an annual salary, if you want to defend them, take them away, so they go back to being beggars. You'll see how happy they will be.
@@soysauceboy2023yeahhh and get betrayed by mhj in the end?….both bangpd and mhj are nothing but greedy persons and you believe in her?lol know the entire story….which mistreated employee begs to not to kick her out of the company….and this person who’s posting should do more research rather than picking faves
"Billie Eilish concept" MADE ME CHOKE ON AIR.
Look at the end of the day Bang's obsession with SM has put his integrity in question. He did everything he could to get his hands on that company. He tried and failed last year so he decided that if he couldn't have them he woukd hire as many SM employees as possible.
He wants to turn Hybe into SM 2.0. He wants the cache that SM has in the kpop industry that Hybe doesnt have. I'm glad that SM held its ground against(dont get it twisted that company is corrupt asf) because we can see all the reassurances he was saying during his failed acquisition of SM was lie.
He was absolutely going to try diminsh the popularity of Aespa and NCT. And try and make copies of them like he did NJ. Bang wants to be LSM. He wants that culturly impact. Because when people think of kpop they dont think of him or Hybe.
The more and more details that come out from different sources and also the fact that HYBE doesn't even have proof of anything against Min Hee Jin the more I'm convinced that HYBE is trying to get her out of the way because they don't need her anymore That's how I look at it
You mean the "don't" need her anymore.
Billie ellish concept 😂😂?!?!!
WHAT A JOKE HOW HE EVEN INVENTED BTS IS CRAZY WITH THAT MINDSET
@@phreshlikedat9752 ikr
FR LMAOO
YO GIRL BFFR😭😭
Well there’s your mistake there… teaming up with Scooter Braun!!!!
HYBE's other CEOs also have a bad image.
Lol that Taylor swift fraud guy is also under hybe 😂😂😂 no way people are supporting him and hybe anymore
You mean Scooter, huge mistake te let him have shares.
I was just looking for an update. Talk about perfect timing
GG with Billie Eilish concept? Wtf was that dude? 💀
This timeline does make sense that MHJ is very angry at BSH
Bang PD aksed MHJ to create a GG like Billie Eilish wth? No way come on!
yes way
0:42 She left SM bcz SM didn't promote f(x) after 2016 and f(x) was MHJ's brainchild/muse. She expressed her unique creative side through f(x).
Yes, not just because she wanted to leave but because there is an issue between her and SM
i knew armys were toxic but coming out of the woodworks to defend a power hungry major corporation over a woman (proven to be a creative genius) who wants to start her own company just bc your faves are under that major corp is wild. HYBE would rather see MHJ’s career ended before they would let her run her own company bc they know she could be competition. they don’t like that bc competition could make them have to treat their artists better, pay them more. that’s why companies (ANY company) would LOVE a monopoly of their industry. that’s why HYBE even has sub-labels, to minimize competition. but y’all are so willing to overlook all that, i don’t get it
Ikr 😭😭
They scare me
Wait I actually never thought about this. Letting her go is way too risky cos she’s really talented so it makes sense that Hybe would rather drag her through the mud even if the dirt gets on them too cos they know they have BTS to clean it up. But MHJ is literally just a girl… who’s going to clean the dirt of her… I mean she has NJ which Hybe is actively trying to take away so idk…😭 this entire thing just feels like a love triangle gone wrong. 💀
@@favour4150 That would generally be the plan. Broadly speaking, many companies have proven themselves to often be willing to turn a blind eye and work with morally and ethically dubious people, provided those qualities serve the interests of the company. And when they oust them, even when claiming those reasons and whether those allegations are true or false, the real motive is that they see them as a threat and/or competition - be it internal or external - that they want to nip.
Also, let's remember that companies, while not people, are still actually run by people (we haven't developed ChatCEO yet) and people make decisions based on emotions and personal issues all the time.
that's right at this point they're just a bunch of mindless hybe zombies
Is anyone here Korean who can give insight to know how Koreans feel about this? In the end, the opinions of international fans never seems to matter much, so I'm curious what they feel. Their feelings will more decide the fate of HYBE.
This also pretty confirms what everyone thought, that GFRIEND was sacrificed by HYBE so the resources could be used for a new girl group. And Scooter Braun running their American branch says all you need to know about their character. I hope Korean fans know how terrible he is.
I think most of the koreans agree with MHJ right now. There are a lot of hate comments about lsf,BHS more than MHJ
@@soysauceboy2023 BSH is so misogynistic and insecure that the only major Korean record company to have a female top manager is his. Right now the other three are toasting, congratulating each other on never hiring a woman in top management, and thanking BSH for making it clear that a woman at that level of power is just a lot of trouble.
this is just so weird...im not attacking anyone in this comment but why do I feel like Min Heejin had a point when it came to the teasers, music video, and choreos? If Hybe seriously wants to debut newjeans 2.0 that's what they would do honestly
Illit are nothing like newjeans. Illit has innocent concept that many groups had before newjeans. Oh my girl had innocent concept for example.
@@jungwondimplesnikiminaj1101it’s very similar anyone who doesn’t follow any of the two groups won’t be able distinguish who’s who let’s be honest the aesthetic is the same
Sadly, all are exposed. 😂😂😂
Leave hybe immediately😂😂
@@jungwondimplesnikiminaj1101 from dancing steps and photo concept.... that's way too similar for a group who's debuting just two years after New jeans
I think mhj is right that look hybr is spreading rumour about mnj that she accused bts of copying nj but she never said that first hybe told that he will mhj group NJ first but he did not did that instead he decided to go first with leserrafim and want to compete with other groups breaking promise of MHJ and at NJ debut their were no promotion like what hybe is jealous of NJ because NJ become popular because of MHJ without any support of hybe
Buddy hybe was the one who gave ger ceo position they have always trused her and after success of NJ ,she must have been respected more but it might be her shady things that lead to this , hype never needed NJ they already had big groups and NJ comea under hype why would they be jeolous they are artist success in industry
@@ryuk6795you are speaking facts🎉
I mean, if you listen closely, MHJ wasn't satisfied with any opportunity she got. She always wanted more and now complains about how unfair she's treated? Idk I remember NJ released a song with inappropriate lyrics and everyone was arguing how bad of a person MHJ is and now everyone is siding with this women 😂😂😂 as long as it hurts BTS, people really take anythibg they can get
@@ryuk6795 🗣🗣💯💯
@@xxheart_breakerxx8732 Siding with MHJ doesn't hurt BTS. Siding with HYBE who is manipulative conglomerate and involved BTS by spreading false rumors and allegations to the point now they are being cursed in their own country is the problem and hurts BTS. Wish some foreign ARMY were smart.
BSH is THE DEFINETION of letting the money get to your head. Yet another reason why I started not liking Hybe...
No hate to illit members
But hybe is really copying newjeans
NJ are a Hybe group.
I agree
MHJ is waging a one woman war against Hybe
Only dumb and naive ppl think tbis is a one women war.
MHJ is Spartacus. 😁😁
Наивные люди, вы действительно верите, что за ней никто не стоит?😏
@@user-jy7ss2it5g Identifiable individuals would help make such arguments more convincing and less conspiratorial.
Min Heejin is gross person who has explicit pictures of underages. She is not someone to side with.
and this is why hybe cant have ggs😭jesus
HYBE is really ruining kpop right now🙄.
Since it's creation.. 🫠
9:00 In terms of the seeming timeline inconsistency between IZ*ONE's conclusion, Sakura and Chaewon's joining HYBE, and ADOR's formation, one possible explanation is that negotiations were already well underway if not (informally?) concluded. Obviously, contract negotiations - especially for high valued individuals, such as ex-IZ*ONE members - take time to fully iron out and so negotiations would've been underway long before their current contracts were completed. That's just how life works - you're always going to want to try to line up your next job before your current one ends. Obviously, even if signed, it wouldn't set to begin until their existing obligations were complete and likely couldn't be officially announced either. And for Chaewon and Sakura seemingly not knowing they would be meeting again as part of Le Sserafim, that can also be true and still fit the timeline as they would've likely been approached individually and been bound by confidentiality.
9:20 Also a slight note an when HYBE signed on Chaewon and Sakura. I can find stories dating back to August 2021 about Chaewon being rumoured to have signed on with HYBE and her no longer being listed as part of her previous label by September 2021. Obviously, rumours are rumours and so may not be accurate but it's interesting that it definitely turned out that Chaewon really did join HYBE. This, to me, just indicates that media announcement dates may not necessarily have any direct bearing on when a deal was struck unless stated as such in the article itself. Rather, the March 2022 announcement seemed to indicate a final lineup was already set in stone with a fully realised concept and plan in place - all of which would be highly unlikely if the idols had only just signed contracts.
thank you ! it makes sense
i dont really know how to feel about this whole scandal but one thing that this whole thing has made clear, Min Hee Jin seems to be incredibly talented
industry insiders from SM and YG even said MHJ is difficult to work with but she is a legend in the industry
@@jade5202 oh i could fully believe that but also i could believe that HYBE fucmed her over at the same time
HYBE became the evil that they thought the big three was. The big three isn't that of a major evil, i mean look at YG. YG kept their same concept of training their trainees for so many years and only debut those that passed evaluations. I can't speak for JYP and SM but seems HYBE trying to change the KPOP business by literally being a worse version of its formerself using BTS as its shield.
SM banned JYJ from going to music shows for life. Read about TVXQ, they were originally 5 people. They had 13 years contract, this case made the current contracts 7 years.
There’s so much drama it’s crazy🤦🏻♀️
NEWJEANS RECENT COMEBACK TEASER IS LIMITED BY HYBE , PLEASE GO SUPPORT THE GIRLS
I’m not saying Min Heejin is innocent but I do think that she is speaking mostly truth, I think Bang Sihyuk got jealous when nj became more successful then Lesserafim
I hope NewJeans doesn’t stay in HYBE if MHJ leaves.
At the end of the day, NJ is a cash cow, they are NOT gonna let that go, if BSH likes it or not.
This sadly means that NJ might become very generic without the brains of MHJ which is sad because I love NJ so much because they are so unique and have such an interesting and intentional direction.
i also don't think NewJeans will still get their luxury dorm, salary and the treatment they get in Ador
knowing that some HYBE label is 4ss in treating their idols
I fear that NJ might become the Fx of HYBE...
Hybe is playing a dirty game
Min is innocent and Hybe betrayed her, they didn't keep their promises.
why should we support her
I never had a good view of her when she joined hybe
Obviously she talked SM information and that's why bang asked her if she could crush asepa, the story line with her is matching up and I respect bang, bts and the rest of hybe members keeping quiet on the matter for time will tell who wrong
You NJ fans can support a SA offender if min and Njs were to be friends with them
@lilirine1446 crush is crush, you can think of it of whatever you want but crushing some is still crushing
@lilirine1446 use Google if want instead of trying to be an English teacher
@@Daisy-ue9vkis the SAer in the room with us ?
@@ev4d0r3 yap very very very MUCH ALIVE
Thanks for the updates
Bang shi yuk really might not a need to produce GGs. They had issues with Glam and now they have another issues because of the Min Hee Jin who handles a GG.
I don't know why bang si hyuk didn't like new jeans I don't get it bcz if they were doing well he should b happy about it they r his first gorl group and did so well so why he didn't happy about it I'm really worried about new jeans are they going to stay under hybe or going behind min hee jin
Le Sserafim and Glam debuted before newjeans.
Nj should leave hybe it's the best option and follow mhj for the better.
Thank you for explaining this whole situation to us. I was so confused and hope that the girls career will not get affectef by this scandal.
Thank you for the chronology video because apparently netizen outside south korea are still dumbed by hybe’s media play
MIn Hee Jin FIGHTING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hope International fans understand how important it is to support Min Heejin and not to support Bang Shi Hyuk. We need to spread the fact that min hee jin DID NOT SAY BANG PD COPIED HER AND MADE BTS. ARMIES ARE TOO LOYAL and they'll do anything to support their idols. We need to fix that issue first.
Yea I'm not gonna meddle or pick sides my ill it and newjeans can get diabaned I do wanna see it play out damn I thought kpop was just dancing and singing
@_Imbored.-jq1psreal like why should we support her
I never had a good view of her when she joined hybe
Obviously she talked SM information and that's why bang asked her if she could crush asepa, the story line with her is matching up and I respect bang, bts and the rest of hybe members keeping quiet on the matter for time will tell who wrong
That’s not the issue. She can say whatever she wants. But if she leaked private documents and planned for foreign investors to help her take over Ador she may go to Jail. Not sure why ppl don’t understand she is a traitor. Any employee doing these things would be in jail already
NO! we don't support blindly! without the whole facts! and we don't believe all woman! disliking Bang! doesn't mean she is telling the whole TRUTH.
Yes, international fans are so manipulated by all those Hybe’s PR
you don't know about Chaewon and Sakura, and what meetings they may have had. I'm sure they were approached by many companies before they left iZone. Companies are not going to wait. You wait you lose. You have to be naive to think otherwise.
Exactly! Since Sakura have a huge fanbase alone. Just like wonyoung and Yujin
Exactly! Since Sakura have a huge fanbase alone. Just like wonyoung and Yujin
This is so well written, I can tell there is so much effort making these videos
So all this happened because Bang Shihyuk became jealous that someone else (a woman) was able to establish a stable Girl group, when he wasn’t?
Talk about petty
This is the only story they can come up with to cover up her own wrong doings. She may go to jail
Ikr
@@Alice-gr6pswho has more power to cover up allegations? Hybe or Min Hee Jin, who do you think? Stop being biased and manipulated by Hybe’s bs allegations lol
Frrrr I don't see any woman who do this until MHJ , we need more female CEO
@@Alice-gr6ps omg ,we might lose NJ because of Hybe , you Hybe biased **
This is the best source for the truth about this saga. I support MHJ 1000%. Thank you.
I always knew that min hee jin was innocent finally someone didnt talk bad about her she is right
It’s funny how BTS “Not Today” is no. 1 on iTunes in USA and 40 other countries. The international Army is sending a message to SK.
However, let's not forget that *_many_* international fans aren't always the best judges of characters and were firmly on the side of FIFTY FIFTY and THE GIVERS, and against ATTRAKT (in contrast to Korean fans, who were firmly on ATTRAKT's side).
@@evilwelshman they shouldnt hv been on fifty fifty's side? im sorry, all i heard was company mistreated group, group sued and they lost ... so-
@@evilwelshman Let's also not forger Kwon Mina vs Shin Jimin & Kim Woojin. International stans stood and still stand on the wrong side in those two situations. They don't look into situations, they follow their faves and will do anything to protect them
@@Abyss777 They lost because the alleged mistreatment was unsubstantiated - and in certain cases, outright refuted and shown to be the contrary. Meanwhile, they had been evidenced to have engaged in duplicit behaviour to try to get out of their contract. And Ahn Sung-Il from THE GIVERS outright forged people's signatures to steal their intellectual property, if news reports are accurate.
They can send whatever message they want. Bang is going to kiss their butt because he has to win them over not ifans.
She is innocent. She's love NJ with all heart. But HYBE only think about $$.
Lacking information etc isn't innocence babe
@_Imbored.-jq1psNJ fans supporting a p3d0 that's why and I am not surprised kpop fans are still supporting that R- pist former member from YG
She loves NJ because she used NJ as cash cow. Hybe paid MHJ 20 mils as bonus and gave her 75 mil worth of stock (increased from 8% to 18%) which she was allowed to purchase for only 700k…she’s crying out loud now because Hybe won’t give her 200 mils…who only thinks about $$$…Hybe hasn’t drag NJ or the members since the news broke, meanwhile MHJ is dragging NJ down with her because whether or not she can start her own label with the Saudi investors solely based upon NJ.
@@rubiirae How about BTS? Do you think HYBE didn't treat BTS as Money Tree? So young, so naive.
@@whereisjustice5112не впутывайте сюда ВТС.😡
私はBTSファンの73歳の日本人ですが、今回の件ではハイブが日本の芸能界参入のために、日本のアイドル宮脇咲良さんをkpopのトップアーティストにして、日本人が韓国音楽界の頂点に立つという、日本すごい、という日本人向けの電通戦略をハイブが請負って、ミン・ヒジンさんにプロデュースさせようとしたが、彼女が日本人なしのグループをつくった、
thank you for organizing. It makes a lot of sense
Allegedly, Bang was at home, apparently in a state of distress eating a pint of ice cream and listening to the NewJeans playlist on repeat. Additionally, it's said that Bang was wearing an MHJ green shirt, which had been sold out!
Idols or artists aren't to blame for the conflicts of their agency/company. However, when it comes to technicalities, NJ is clearly more prepared to debut, was more complete as idols, than LSF. From their concepts, skills, marleting. Ador seemed to have been more prepared to debut & manage NJ rather than Hybe for LSF. Plus, bang shi hyuk working w/ someone w/ questionable work ethics like scooter braun, speaks volumes of bang pd's character & work ethic as well. No matter what the negative allegations against MHJ were, BSH is also a questionable person, with hating yet obsessing over YG & SM artists, concepts, his hybe is really known for copying, no originality, payola, buying votes, kpop monopoly, now removing the "k" in kpop. He's really set on destroying kpop. I pity bts and armies for having his "creative genius" mind version. He's an example of 1 stroke lucl got immense success, but he can never reproduce legendary artists that the YGE, SME, JYPE had.
LSF is a Source Music girl group, but both LSF and NJ are Hybe groups. Both LSF and NJ were trained by Source Music, but since GFriends did not renew their contract and left, Source Music rushed LSF's debut because MHJ poached the trainees without paying off their training debt, so Source Music was left broke.
THANK YOU !!! I've been waiting for the full story to be explained 🍿 🍿 🍿
i really love this channel unlike seoulite tv that dude is very one sided always make MHJ look like the villain here and Hybe is the victim.
This channel is doing the same. Don't listen to everything they say as Truth
lol this channel is the same in the opposite direction both of their behaviours are bad but some pple can’t see the wood thru the trees. The woman who comes out crying crocodile tears in messy clothes messy hair like she’s hard done by but trying to sell off Ador to outside investors and Hybe trying to take control.
@@MsPodder nah seollite tv is straight up MHJ hater lol.
Hello this channel is reporting on MHJ emotions as if it was facts. Doesn’t mention a lot of other facts that other channels mention. It’s more of a gossip channel. Drama video
Hybe paying them to make mhj look like a villain
We should protect newjeans and MHJ from hybe. Please spread the news.
MHJ is the one in the wrong. This chanel is a known liar and has a vendetta against Hybe.
@@hybekickgaram4830and you look like hybe paid you for defending them to destroy NJ . You being a hybe stan is creepy.
@@hybekickgaram4830 Agreed. People really forgot what caused all of this mess. HYBE supposedly found evidence of MHJ’s allegedly planning to takeover ownership of ADOR. This is what we should be focusing on. This should be the only thing that matters.
The fact that it has somehow became a protect NewJeans from HYBE situation is insane when it was MHJ who dragged NewJeans into this mess so she could protect herself. If anything, NewJeans should be protected from MHJ.
And how do you want to protect them? 😂
@@bqanto I don’t know, how about stop including them every time MHJ is mentioned? NewJeans shouldn’t have even been dragged into this situation in the first place. The fact that they are now always connected with MHJ whenever this topic gets mentioned is stupid. How about just leave NewJeans out of this?
Talk about youtuber milking every drop from this controversy 😂
😂😂😂😂😂
Bro’s probably getting paided by Min hee jin
Have you seen the number of views?
The idea that a huge profit oriented corporate damaging their own bread winner is foolish. They are not as naive and stupid as risking their performance in front of share holders, only to protect their ego out of jealousy. There is nothing to be jealous of for someone with profit oriented mindset. There must be some financial interest involved. KNets are too naive and too emosional. It would be better if government gets involved to audit Ador and Hybe altogether to have the clear picture of what actually has been happening.
Мышление ориентировано не только на прибыль. Люди не роботы.
@@wolf-from-tambovThere are money from a lot of people over there at stake. You have to be responsible with that also. Do you think all of them are crazy riches ? Working and creating are fine but be resposible to the people who give you financial support and all of other resources.
@@soysauceboy2023 BSH is so misogynistic and insecure that the only major Korean record company to have a female top manager is his. Right now the other three are toasting, congratulating each other on never hiring a woman in top management, and thanking BSH for making it clear that a woman at that level of power is just a lot of trouble.
I missed all your videos this week
I'll watch all now 😂
Oh I didn't miss all
I saw 2 and forgot 😅
Seeing this makes me wonder about something I do believe their some jealousy between two MHJ vs Bang Sihyuk but now I kinda wonder about something now, Could Mr Bang or Hybe be reason why BTS 'V Layover album didn't hits number #1 on Global 200 Billboards top charts, because it's was
Min Heejin was one who Produce and
writes lyrics on V solo album (Layover)
to and Girls NJ love it, they all love 'V beauitful baritone deep voice, because I remember hearing somebody said
something that V Layover was sent late that someone I Hybe kinda mess Up time to sent 'V Layover Copied sales on time which is why Tae album Layover was not number #1 on top Global 200 BBAs in USA and UK,instead his Layover came at number #2 or #3 top lists on BBAs Global 200 charts, but I always thought the reason maybe V album wasn't at number #1 on Global
200 BBAs is because He did not promote his Solo album in America
which why Layover was not #1 on US BBAs Global 200 charts but now after hearing this news and abit more information, I started to wonder now I'm beginning to wonder could V Solo Layover album was late because of
Mr Bang Sihyuk jealousy against MHJ ? since it was MHJ who writes and Produce BTS 'V album Layover however V also help Produce album not just MHJ even tho She writes the lyrics on entired album tracks to fit V personality recording to MHJ words ???
Anyway what do you Guys think ???
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I think he is greedy, jealous and petty. Also, not a man of his word.
Guys we should not jump into conclusions and sides YET. We don’t have the full truth yet so we should just stay neutral and wait and see.
But let’s be real, Hybe is being shady af
"We" ???? Honey speak for yourself. Everyone is entitled to feel/think however they feel/think
I agree with you
@@justacutie5201 your comment makes no sense. It is objectively right to wait until facts are established before you come to a conclusion. Everyone is entitled to how they feel, yes, but you look ridiculous when you speak in absolutes without knowing the fully story….
Be honest, I’m not even on neither MHJ or Hybe. They brought a lot of artists into their own mess and made them suffering. There’s no true or fail anymore. I am here to say it’s time for both MHJ and Hybe say apologize for those artists doesn’t matter they are right or wrong.
This min her jin vs hybe is stressing a lot of people this has to end in a court case there this must end
There’s no way Sakura and Chaewon wasn’t already in talks with Hybe way before their Izone contract ended.
What people are misunderstanding is, June wanted to create a gg with mhj alongside source music but mhj didn’t want any trainees besides minji(I could be wrong with her name), and wanted a full creative on the group but have probably said NO. That’s why they gave her a new company to create her own group but hybe still wanted to have their own gg with source music that’s why they debuted LS. They wanted their group to debut first but probably MHJ felt like her group should debut first and that’s when all this drama lit up.
Big Shit Entertainment
wanted to have a billie eilish, hybe?.. ur idols needs to train vocally XD before admiring a billie irish sound
this video and the comments here are incredibly biased. it doesn't matter if you see what happened as "unfair" (and we don't even know definitively if there is any truth to most of these statements), all that matters is MHJ signed contracts with hybe and used their investment and connections. MHJ can't just decide to leave because she's unhappy. 🙄
Boycott. Hybe. 😐👊✊👎👎👎
Who exactly do you want to boycott? You don't know either 😂
It’s reasonable if MHJ has an idea to be independent. Look how hybe mistreat her and newjeans. As a bunnies, I’m so angry 😡 how could a mastermind of BTS did such a shameful thing like that?????????
Letter from the NewJeans parents just dropped, reports that Bang Si Hyuk refused to even greet the NewJeans members any time they crossed paths. How will the majority of Western fans double down as more of these receipts come to light?
That's not how things went. On Monday 22 April Hybe announced that he had initiated an internal audit at Ador and had called for the resignation of MHJ, who refused to resign and also refused to hand over the company laptop. They cited MHJ's secret and illicit contacts with foreign investors as the reason for the audit as well as the orchestration of a defamation campaign against Hybe, which is currently going strong. In response to the audit, MHJ called an embarrassing press conference for Thursday, April 25, during which she cried and said that she's like a mom to NJ and that BSH copied her etc., and showed screenshots of their private conversations. She said that she wrote a plan about the hostile takeover of Ador as a joke. Hybe handed over the evidence to police the next day and an investigation is now underway. Furthermore, Hybe requested that the CEO of Ador (MHJ) meet the board of directors on Tuesday, April 30, to discuss her dismissal, but she refused. So Hybe has forwarded the request to the court for a forced board of directors, but it will take weeks.
그건 하이브 측의 주장이다. 그들 말대로 증거가 있다면 바로 형사 고소를 하면 되지만, 기자회견 이후 그들은 민사 고소를 했다. 애초에 '배임'건이 진실이라면 조용히 처리하면 된다. 그러나 하이브는 회사 일을 외부 언론에 유출시키고 직후 민희진에 대한 증거 없는 루머를 퍼트렸다. 그 시간에 민희진과 어도어는 뉴진스의 새 mv인 bubble gum 작업 중이었다. 분명한 혐의 없이 곧 릴리즈 되는 자사 그룹의 실무진 노트북을 내놓으라는 것은 어불성설이다. 민희진의 기자 회견은 감정적으로 보이지만, 전체 버전을 보면 해명해야 할 내용은 다 들어 있고, 그 감정적인 태도가 진정성을 전달해 주었기에 한국 대중은 민희진을 지지한다. 하이브는 '카톡 chat' 외의 어떤 증거도 제시하지 않았고, 변호사들은 이러한 대화가 실제 실행에 옮겨졌다는 실질적인 증거가 없는 한 무죄라고 말한다. 이는 기자 컨퍼런스 시작 시 언급되며, 나머지 내용은 민희진이 언론과 대중에게 방시혁과 하이브의 오랜 '뉴진스 죽이기'를 고발하기 위해 이루어졌다. 최신 뉴스 업데이트를 위해 댓글창에 남긴다.
Army stands with MHJ!
Чья армия?
Nope
The same Army that got a huge smear campaign against them that started after the MHJ allegations? The same Army that she talked with the Shaman hoping they end up in the military? That Army?
No we don’t. BTS was dragged into this mess because she decided to drop their name for no reason. Rumors were being spread just a week ago accusing them of being related with a cult. BigHit had to announced that they will be taking legal actions against defamatory statement towards BTS for these rumors to stop. Why in the world would we stand with her? Don’t lump us in with you.
I am an Italian army and I support Hybe.
Min heejin is right every aspect
People are so dumb whoever supporting hybe
Let’s here what the courts hav3 to say!
Really how do you know? if she is the the telling the truth? just because you dislike the company! doesn't mean she is being truthful... Staying neutral, instead taking side so blindly! just wait for the whole facts to come to light! Remember that the BOYS! Still work inside this company...
@@Godiva360you’re gonna support Hybe just because Bts is there? lol you guys are so pathetic!
@@Godiva360 boys work inside the company! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 that's your defend??
Bts has nothing to do with it and mostly they are no longer available right now so get over it
We support every group that under hybe just not hybe and their decisions
Taylor swift fruad guy is also under hybe so u can imagine how immature hybe is
@@alwenawillis8813 Hybe can just pay off the judge and produce fabricated evidence since they wage a paid for smear campaign and censor comments critical of them and their dangerous relation to Dahn World Cult.
Every time more news comes out about this all I feel is "😬😬😬"
All crazy kpop scandal is need to stop like this us straight up next level for me and other kpop fans to here this type of news and we are definitely need to protect our kpop idols
She came to work with other groups as well and stuck only on New Jeans.
Wait so you are telling me that mhj was used by hybe?
This is also wild that the public has so much say in how a label runs. Also the label actually listens and response to people. Maybe it’s a kpop thing. I’ve never heard major U.S. and Europe labels interacting as much with the public as if every person owns a share in the company and yet MASSIVELY successful artists in these labels and continue to thrive (unless the artist doesn’t or does something). I heard kpop labels are looking into change some of this. I hope so
Hi Kook… can you plz talk about hype and dahn world? This topic it really freak me out but I don’t much about this topic and I don’t if I can trust people who talking about it or not
it seems so strange why he would be so unhappy of the success of a group under his label, somethings really off
and didn't they already have like 80% of ador or something? why would hybe be mad they making money at the end of the day
Clearly Hybe as a company and BSH as Chairman are very happy with the success of NJ, which for them means money money money. They created Illit to ride the success of LSF and NJ, but they didn't take that crazy bi*ch's jealousy and envy into account. Men are used to thinking in terms of economic advantage and success of the company, not of spite and drama. After MHJ's squalid performance at the press conference, no major Korean company will ever put a woman in a high position again.
KOOKIELIT trying so hard to be DISPATCH 😂
This case is honestly stressing me out 😭
This situation feels like from the series "castaway diva" between productions and singers
lol I thought Jonny Depp and Amber Heard's drama was the most amusing one... But this drama is much more next level than that 👁👅👁