Esbit 1100mL Cook Kit - BETTER Than the Trangia Mess Kit?
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- čas přidán 9. 02. 2022
- I love cook kits, and especially unique cook kits. I've always loved the simplicity of the trangia mess tins, and that is what this kit reminded me of. Today we will not only take a look at this awesome kit, but also cook up some breakfast burritos!
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You really sung the praises of this little kit. Better than Trangia? No way, no how! I won’t be buying it. At that price, it’s a crazy buy! There’s far better out there, better priced too. Good luck with flogging this one, dead horses come to mind. Thank you for the vid.
Ernie -- I really like that Esbit 1100mL Cook Kit, Thank You for showing it to us. For those that want to use that stove as a wood -burner, I would suggest perforating that bottom plate with one eighth inch holes (everywhere except where the fuel tablets go). Next, go to your local Hardware Store and purchase four Metal, Drawer Pulls about the same size as those plastic feet and eliminate the plastic feet (don't forget to use the Lock Washers under the Drawer Pulls to keep them from vibrating loose).
👍 A variation on a Theme.
Military 'Dixie' Mess Tins have served me well since 1968.
That rectangular shape packs well and can store auxiliary kit inside quite efficiently. One shouldn't knock it until they have tried it.
No criticism of this new cook kit, but it is not up for consideration as my current Dixie Set with Esbit Folding Burner using Gel Fuel does the job .. and is paid for.
A good share, thanks. Another option for those looking for something in this vein.
Take care ..
As for the longevity of the Esbit tablets, I have some I bought 35 years ago for my little pocket sized Esbit stove. I pulled them out a few months ago and heated up some water for coffee on it using two little tabs. Lit right up and heated my stainless steel cup of water to boiling - just like they did in the old days! I doubt I could find them for .75 cents a box, anymore.
Luke @ Outdoor Gear Review, reviewed this cook set a while ago. He didn’t quite sell me on it but you may have. I didn’t think of the fuel diversity that you pointed out. Thanks for the info!
Luke has a different take on a things. Nothing wrong with that, variety is good 😊
Not a fan, he thinks every bump in the night is out to get him, and anyone in the wilderness but him is making drugs.
Having used nesting mess tins recently, I like the look & idea of this. Storing kit & food in it is why I like the nesting mess kits. Another alcohol stove that may be good with is Vargo's Decagon stove. I remember you didn't like it but could be good with this Esbit 1100ml cook set. Great video & thoughts. Thanks for sharing 👍
Thanks Dr. Ernie for your review. I have this stove and love it. Because of its larger surface area on the bottom it is very efficient with the Esbit Tabs and does not waste the heat from a flame pattern that is larger than the pots base.. Also I've found that the Kojin by Trail Designs works very well in this cook kit and is certainly more cost effective than using the Esbit Tabs. It is a very stable kit and is not tippy at all. I have not used wood in it yet. I highly recommend this kit and found it expensive, but also worth the money.
I think it would be great as a self contained kit to keep in the trunk of the car. A kit the size of a milk crate could hold freeze dried meals, water, a tarp, emergency blanket ect. ect... You just never know and a kit that could be built for around $100 is cheap peace of mind. 😎
have been changing out my mre entrees. all i have in the house are your usual round pots. so i have been looking for a rectangler pot that will hold a mre entree at around 7.5 by 4 inches. this is one of the contenders.
That stove screams for soups and stews. Love the Kojin stove idea. 2 or 3 backpackers could team up and create some great grub if they each had one. Great basecamp kit as well with several units: soup/stew in one, rice or other starch in another and hot water in one for cleanup or coffee. You could probably use it as an oven with a proper sized trivet for baking. This stove is versatile!
I have the round esbit cookset, the pot is good quality thick aluminum. I don’t normally use the base and esbit but use the Evernew titanium alcohol stove. This makes a great set with options. Get the pot stand for the Evernew or similar stove so you can heat with high heat or you can simply set the pot directly on the Evernew stove for low heat. Heat water fast or simmer a can of beans, chili without burning it or my favorite thing is making a perfect 1/2c of Basmati rice without fail. Because the flame pattern heats the radius of the pot when setting directly on the stove, it cooks like a crockpot, heating the side edge instead of a hotspot in the middle.
Used this setup for years at work along with several other sets but this one is what I’d keep in a bag for daily outings, a wood burning setup that packs flat makes a good companion for complete flexibility.
if they designed the bottom part to accommodate for alcohol stoves like Trangia or their own one, that would've been a solid gold, I feel.
Thanks Ernie, super enjoyed this video!
Great review and love how you give options for fuel!!
A friend of mine has one and uses it with a homemade coke can stove. It can feed three of us on a day hike. The shape means that it packs well.
Looks convenient for quick camping meals, thank again for your GREAT VIDEOS.
Thanks, Ernie, you´re the man!
That’s a much better idea than the traditional double mess tin kit. Perfect for BCB Fire Dragon solid cubes. 👍
Great review Ernie. I saw another review (very negative) on it but he didn't think outside the box like you always do. Thanks for all you do!
Thanks Doc.
I have the Esbit three piece cook set. This looks like the next-size-up version.
I like it.
I’ve made some stoves by filling round (and square) tins with cotton and wax. The square (rectangular) one’s would be perfect for this kit.
...just when I thought I had enough cook kits. lol
I really enjoy your videos Ernie. You strike me as being an authentically great person. Always a pleasure. Dave & The Girls
Thank you for this video. Looks like a great stove.
I'm a big keto fan and your little packet of Ghee just stole my heart!!😋😆✌️💚
Nice simple kit and would work very very well for soups or stews, but I would definitely swap out the heating method for a alcohol/fire gel burner. I doubt I would take this camping, but a good option to keep in the boot of your car for those times when a quick hot meal is required.
Like the reviews get to see lots of equipment I might never test . Have fun stay safe.
It looks like an Altoid tin alcohol stove would work OK. I like the idea of the Esbit.
BCB Firedragon alcohol tabs would work great with that and if you replace the tomatoers with chunky pace picante sauce that would be totally awesome breakfast burritos
I like that is is rectangular.
Great asparagus cooker! Even if you only took the pan.
I like this.
Hey Doc, I've done a lot of cooking with Sterno. For general purpose cooking, it works great.I forgot about the Kojin stove.
Nice review. I have this kit, only preliminary testing with esbit and homemade carbon felt alcohol stove so far. Look forward to more field testing here in Wyoming. I did notice I had to use a windscreen but we’re always windy here. I don’t think I would use wood. Not much headspace, so much better stove alternatives for that out there. I was attracted to it’s unique shape, will do double duty as fry pan and pot. Seems very well made like most esbit offerings
Very clever
Good review Ernie. If you pack it full it's a container that turns into a stove. I know it's well made. I'm getting one mostly because of it's quality and knowing it's not made in China. 🦇😋🥺🤪😷🤯
Thank you
Good review , thanks for sharing , God bless !
It is absolutely better!
I love the lid latch as a windscreen...I have never seen this thing before
The esbit is a bit expensive. I was looking at it but grabbed something smaller. A crusader cup and stand. It is like a British army version of the Swedish army alcohol stove. Try the mk2 crusader. I got one to try with my trangia and it works well with that and with esbit fuel and with gel. It also works with an American GI mug.
The esbit is a lovely made bit of kit.
Smart smart design
Hand sanitizer is also a gel fuel option. :)
I have one, and an Altoids tin works to hold alcohol gell fuel. I might just pick up a Kojin stove for it, though. Thanks for the review!
You could also replace those plastic feet with small lag bolts permanently. That's the first thing I'd do. But I'll stick with my Ikea utensil holder hobo stove! I have a solid plate I put inside to use solid fuel cubes.
I do like Esbit for an emergency disaster kit at home. I just hate using it for hiking, because the tablets have a slight bad fish smell that leeches out. It will get on your pack and sleeping bag. I worry about drawing hungry bears.
Would make a good survival mess tin packed with survival items.
I think the mini ALTOIDS tin alcohol burner would work great.
Planetside Agent and Waypoint Survival have videos on the burner.
A non-stick pan interior would nice.
Anodised aluminium is already fairly non-stick if you use a little bit of oil or butter...
I still like the firebox freestyle!
A small silicone food scraper would come in handy for cleaning out that pan so you could get the next dish cooking.
Wondering about this ... I've cut a ring from a small tomato paste can that I place around the 14g Esbit cube to tame the heat and extend the burn for baking. It's very effective. Perhaps the rectangular-shaped Spam can could be cut for the same effect with those 27g tablets. I would have wanted to wrap those two burritos you made and toasted them over lower heat in the Esbit pan.
I use the aluminum cup from a tea candle to hold the 14g Esbit tablet, pressing it so that just the top of the tablet is exposed. In a test I did this week I got a total burn time of 38 minutes.
You wouldn't need a food scraper if it was non stick.
I made something similar to that kojin thing, just need the esbit kit then :-D
I always start my peppers before the onions, otherwise I burn the onions before the peppers get as soft as I like them. Looks tasty tho!
I know your having a rest
But have you seen the new snow peak triangle alcohol stove ?
I think it looks pretty cool.
Enjoy life.
Thanks for the fun over the years ;-)
Love your review. Curious as to the brand of ghee you were using. I like the individual packets. Can you mention the brand? Thank you for all you do!
You could also consider using a Live Fire, fire starter in a resealable tin.
This kit works with the pill bottle stove pucks
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Boundless Voyage has one they call a lunch box. You have to furnish the heat source for it. It's 7.1 inches ( 182 mm ) X 6.4 inches ( 163 mm ) and 2.1 inches ( 55mm ). Weighs 11.28 oz ( 320 grams ) and is made from Titanium. Sells for $51.00. Here is the rather long official name from them. " Boundless Voyage 1000ml Titanium Lunch Box Camping Bento Box Outdoor Cookware Military Mess Tin Bowl Pan with Lid Folding Handle. " When it comes to pans like this my favorite is still the Keith ( round ,1.2 liter ) Lunch box in titanium. Plus a Evernew titanium burner & X stand.
Hi Ernie.
Interested in the Individual sachets of gee, please could you provide a link?
I recognized the green dot logo. It's from the *Simple Truth Organic* line marketed by Kroger Food Stores in the USA. I have not seen that product in my local Fry's Supermarket in Tucson, AZ. They are Kroger-owned and carry most of the Kroger line. But then I would probably just use butter instead. Also I'm answering a year later. Kroger may have been test marketing individual ghee packets. Ernie's in LA [Louisiana] and they may have been available in his area only.
Can I use wood or charcoal as fuel. Thank you
By the way I love your shows. Very informative.
Can also run it on tea lights. About 15 should do it.
Four Acorn nuts or threaded hex spacers for the feet.
How well would wood pellets work if put in a small pile in the center?
Hey Ernie, how was the cleanup? I'm certain the inside of that pan is not non-stick. If you get a chance, could you share your thoughts please?
I have another anodized Esbit stove and clean up from cooking was difficult. Food sticks. I only use for boiling water now.
Hey, where is the link for the Kojin stove?
Hey Ernie,,, I’ve never used Esbit fuel, and Iam not planning on it either. But honestly,,, does the fuel cube smell ruin the joy of cooking. Did it compete with the wonderful smell of your food,,,??? Great Video,,, Joshua
I wonder if you could use wood pellets with this.
Hey Ernie, any chance you can test the Goshawk rapid boiling era burner? Apparently it's a 3minute 2cup boil. This needs confirming stat!
They have sent it to me…and am looking forward to checking it out!
Are there any stoves that run on T lights.
The candles here In the UK are £2-50 for 20.
This is my kind of
Do you think a penny stove might work with it?
I found it but, no link to the Kojin
What alcohol stove is that and what is the white stuff inside?
I dont see the link for the alcohol stove
Could you use a Trangia alcohol burner in this instead of solid fuel?
I think he answered this in the video. He recomended the smaller sized 'kojin' stove.
Burning Esbit tablets smell like gunpowder. Fond memories.
How does the Esbit vs alcohol compare? Does the Esbit burn hotter than alcohol?
How about the Trangia gel burner? It is basically just a cup and I think it is thin enough to fit.
GOD Bless you and your families
Kit looks useful but I can't get over that rectangular shape. It just seems like a round pot would distribute heat more evenly and be easier to clean. I've never used Esbit because of the smell I noticed when a hiking partner used it.
Conversely, after several days on trail, Esbit tablets are effective for covering the smell of your hiking partner.
On the other hand it packs better and more efficiently in terms of space than a round container. Also rectangular mess tins can be more efficiently packed with food or other items than round pots.
I have yet to find solid fuel a viable cooking process… but thanks for the review
I see them as more of an emergency preparedness item than a hiking fuel. It's good to keep a box of tabs that you never use unless the power is out. Not that I would reach for the esbit tabs first, but say my butane burner is damaged, and my butane/propane canister is empty and my alcohol bottle was accidentally left open, all my charcoal is wet and there's no trees anywhere anymore yeah, it's a good backup backup backup backup backup fuel 😂
@@toastiesburned9929 Same it's actually my 4th line of options if there is no power at home. 1st line: butane stove with 12 canisters; 2nd line: Trangia with 5l meths (denatured alcohol); 3rd line FireDragon Gel which I can use in my Lixada stove; 4th line traditional Esbit stove & tablets although I could burn them in my Lixada stove too.
If there is still no power after I've used all that up - about 6 to 8 weeks - it would be safe to go out and collect wood, and burn it at home, as most people would be dead.
Will a Trangia fit inside stove.
It will "fit", but the pan sits soo close to it that it will snuff the Trangia out. So fit for storage, yes. Fit for cooking, no.
Wouldn't a wood fire melt the aluminum, or, at least, warp it? I doubt that the finish will stand up to the btu output of a nice, hot wood fire.
A wood fire requires a lot of oxygen, as well. My best wood stoves require much more oxygen to burn damp wood (which is what is found along the coastal areas) than pre-cut, kin dried commercial lumber, which is often used in CZcams backyard video "tests". Picking up dried wood along the trail for a tiny backpacking wood stove for use in camp is just shy of a myth. I tried it for a month long hike on the AT last spring (and my start date in late April gave me lots of dry weather). I had to park myself right by my Firebox Ti Nano and tend it constantly to bring 2 cups of water to a boil in 10-15 minutes, with the hot ashes falling out of the holes in the bottom, allowing the sticks to go out. I had to fashion an ash pan from a tuna can lid to minimize this, but it limited air flow, cooling the fire and creating impressive amount of smoke. A larger stove would work better, but be heavier and more bulky.
Nothing is without challenges 😁.
Aluminum melts at 1200 F, and a wood fire gets a lot hotter than that. I’ve seen glass get soft in a campfire and that takes around 2000 F. I think a charcoal briquette could be used but a hot wood fire could melt the stove. The pan above filled with water might protect the fire box by keeping it cooler but I wouldn’t risk using wood.
Link to the alcohol stove please?
I own this kit and I wouldn’t use it for emergency: obviously it does fine in a table top situation, but in actual field use, the design of this kit leaves it extremely vulnerable to wind. Boil times in actual field conditions can be stretched to even 20 minutes for a full pot, which means more than one of those fuel tabs. That means the added bulk and weight of a windscreen is essential. The rectangular shape also makes it difficult to pour from when your pot is full-water initially doesn’t want to pour in a nice stream from the corner of the pot, instead running down the outside over that Esbit residue into your cup. It’s a decent water boiler if you protect it from the wind, and you can cook in it, but in the field, the lip that nestles into the pot support also can trap food, complicating clean-up.
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It reminds me of Dave Canterberry's fire kit that he made from a military surplus French mess kit and he carries in a Hilicon tex E&E pouch along with a Silky Pocketboy saw and a Trecker SAK. Here is a link to that video. czcams.com/video/y2HNDFOHv5k/video.html. It might be easier and cheaper to get one of these esbit kits than it is to track down a French mess kit!!
The manufacturer failed to utilise the lid as a frying pan by making it flat, that severely limits the practicality compared to the Trangia Mess Tins.
Cool kit. The price is reasonable to me.
I liked seeing actual cooking other than just boiling water. Makes for a good demo.
Solid fuel is noxious and is dangerous to use indoors
Indeed! Be safe folks, it's nasty stuff to breathe in.
Should have listened first(2ears).
I think I'd use alcohol in a dish or gel alcohol. Not a fan of the Esbit smell.
Perhaps if this was made from titanium or even stainless steel it would be worth the price or even if it came with an alcohol burner, but as it is it's just not worth the price
Cost of fuel alone turns me off. Also hate Kidney, rectangular and square pans. Thats Just me though.
What?!? No Rice? Really? Are you sure you're from Lousianna? Says the guy from South Texas.
The one major drawback that I can see is that it’s not set up for making coffee.
No link for alcohol stove?
Too bad the rest of the world has to deal with US or imperial measurement because you are only one of only three four countries who are not using metric. I notice very few of you translate for us.😢
would love one. but. right now here on amazon.ca. 91$. outch
but look like a nice kit