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- Fences - I Ain't Got to Like You: Cory (Jovan Adepo) asks his father (Denzel Washington) a simple question and gets an honest answer.
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Troy Maxson (Denzel Washington) makes his living as a sanitation worker in 1950s Pittsburgh. Maxson once dreamed of becoming a professional baseball player, but was deemed too old when the major leagues began admitting black athletes. Bitter over his missed opportunity, Troy creates further tension in his family when he squashes his son's (Jovan Adepo) chance to meet a college football recruiter.
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Cast: Denzel Washington, Jovan Adepo
Screenwriter: August Wilson
Director: Denzel Washington
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Not long before my dad died, he once came up to me and said, "I'm going to give you something my dad never gave me." And then proceeded to hug me. I miss him so damn much.
Wow im really sorry
Troy never received love so he does not know how to give it
Fman1292 Bro what?
@Fman1292 💪you're a smart warrior bro. Keep it up, respect from a 17 yo British kid
Sorry to hear that man
As a kid, my dad once said, “I am not your friend, I am your Father. And if I’m a good Father, we will be great friends when you’re older.” Him and I are best friends to this day.
Now that I'm grown I feel I'm friends with my parents. Ofc the respect is still there, but we have talks on certain subj tht we wud have never discussed when I was a child. Such as family tea
Respect
That's a true father
@@A_NotesThat’s a great line and a great way to view fatherhood. I’m gonna use that with my future kids.
@A_Notes you find out a lot about your uncles divorce after that 18th birthday party😅
my father once grabbed me by the shoulder with a tear in his eye and said "son you mean so much to me but I will beat you like Cherokee drum if you slam the fridge again"
LMAO
😂
Lmfao I’m howling
Is your dad Hobbs from 'Hobbs and Shaw'? Cuz that's literally the only time I heard someone say that.
@@Marcvelous3 I don't know who that is I first heard it from my dad... when I slammed the fridge after grabbing a tasty treat and was too excited.
My father once told me, "You're my son and I love you, I'll always love you. . . . . but I'm not always going to like you.".
Shut up foo
I mean....yeah. Thats how family is. Theres is NO ONE anyone will meet in life that they like all the time. II have three siblings that I love to death, but that love is strong because we still care about each other even during the times we want to punch one another.
Exactly. "Like" and "love" are not the same thing, and you don't need to like someone to love them, that goes for anybody. I don't even always like someone I consider a friend, but I sure will always love them as a friend. Likewise, I can't say I always even like my parents, but it is both my duty and personal pleasure to love them. As cliche as it is, "love is a verb" is true. It's a voluntary choice, not based on fleeting emotions (that's called infatuation). With that said, I think this kid's question about whether or not his dad "liked" him isn't what he's actually asking. It's his young, juvenile way of trying to ask if his father loves and cares about him as a person, and his father pretty firmly denied him that positive affirmation and approval that he along with every boy needs and seeks from his father and or male role models (it's why a lack of a positive father figure is so detrimental to the development of boys and young men in society). It's not for a parent to be their child's "friend" in the way that their child is friends with their peers, though there is a diffference between being "friends/peers" and being friendly as a general attitude (and it is entirely appropriate to be friends when that child is a grown if you've raised your kid into a well-adjusted adult), but what you should do for them is to make sure that they know they are loved and that you care about them and their welbeing as a person. Doing the bare minimum to honor one's parental responsibilities by simply putting food on the table, clothes on their back and a roof over their head is not the same as being a good parent. Like Denzel said, that part is his job as a parent and a father. That's like demanding to be made employee of the month when you only do just enough work to stay employed or if you hope to be made validictorian as a C-student.
Or I love you but I didn't like what you just did.
@@Tyler_W you're absolutely right.
The boy was just looking for one "I love you son" by his dad. Some parents think that because they supply food, shelter and clothing they are great parents when they don't.
True, but they are still a whole lot better than parents that choose not to supply any of those things for their kids.
It’s crazy how much I can see it both ways
Unfortunately, a stoic man considers providing to be his expressed way of loving. Men tend to demonstrate, not say..
he gave it to him , by being a dad, taking care of him , teaching him to become a man . He should him way beyond love
@@johndouglascross you can’t not like someone and love them at the same time, what are you talking about?
Troy does make one good point. You can't go through life life worrying about if someone likes you or not because people are too judgmental. You do need to make sure people treat you with respect as long you respect yourself.
Criminal records mattery very little in sports
His son doesn't care if anyone likes him, he cares if his FATHER likes him. Big difference. If Troy would've LISTENED to the question instead of HEARING it he would've understood.
Gary Mcguckin Thank you Gary. He was horrible. Point blank. The devil didn't deserve a father this bad, ignorant or mean.
Well, it’s his dad we are talking about
This is different. This is his father. As a father you're supposed to love your child no matter what.
It's a good lesson, but you know what's better? Having a father who unapologetically likes and loves you. My father is a hard and strong man, but he never hesitates at the chance to let me know he loves me. It's the kind of man I try to be.
Any smart young man should know that words are not enough. Back in the days men married women and no one talked about love. Treat her right, take care of the home and the kids, respect her and she is submissive. They built strong relationships and lived till death did them part. Now after the first date we start saying i love you and within weeks the relationship is over. Why did love not sustain them?
My dad told me he loved me for the first time when I was 22 and I cried uncontrollably. The best day of my life
No shame in that bro. Your dad's a good man.
Same but I was 17
And I bet that had more value than just mindlessly saying it every day.
@@dinolover very true
Jesus.
I’m not sure if Denzel isn’t the best actor in Hollywood. I never get tired of watching him.
My favorite actor is Leonardo dicaprio...i can literally say I've seen almost all his movies and loved them all... however, denzel might be 2nd to me. He's fantastic.
Denzel the man
Clandestine Comments it’s a good character!! 😉
@@Rican_VII They're definitely two great actors but every time I watch their films I see them still, I don't see the character they play. Al Pacino in the other end embodies the characters with an accent and everything as if they really exists. Only my observation
控え目 I never said anything about anybody’s skin color. That was you. I like this mans acting. I like his dialogue in movies. I also like his morals as a person as well as the morality of the characters he plays. One of my favorite actors and I feel like a good person. Am I allowed to have that opinion?!
great acting, horrible parenting. You can ruin a kid by not telling them you love them, and by making them feel guilty for you supplying for them.
a name Ong
You arent very smart if thats what you took from the scene...
Exactly
agree 100% 👍🏼
True but try to pay attention to the scene more and you will understand
Ten years later: Why doesn’t my son ever come to visit or call me?
He knows why. He knows. But it's too late to fix it.
Because he don't like me either.
As long as he's doing his duty, who cares.
@The Duke Of Flem All I'm saying is that Troy would 1 million percent disagree with you.
He never answered his question either. “Why don’t you like me?”
The fact that he **could not** say "i love you" says something.
Wait till the kids older to say that. He already knows it because of what his dad has provided to him.
@@PokerIsLife13the issue is that he doesn’t KNOW if his father likes or loves him, that’s why he asked.
It’s not that easy sometimes, my pops never had to say I love you. Ik he loves me. Some people don’t even have a pops like Troy that will even take care of them. Troy was trying his best as a dad. Since his dad was terrible towards him he doesn’t really know how to show love
@@gupmalihorrible outlook. Sorry, just is.
denzel washington is an excellent versatile actor.
I'd say fallen is my favorite of his.
General Zod nobody cares bud😭
@@supbape apparently, you did enough to comment.
@@supbape i care
supbape you must have forgotten this was a public comment section bud
Key word here is “don’t go through life worried about people liking you or not. Just live your life
You mean... Key 15 *WORDS*
Malik Aubrey 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏
Yeah thats the point. But my god that kid is gonna become a miserable person when he gets older.
Malik Aubrey yep
That’s not a word
Denzel is great in this scene, no doubt... But the stage performance James Earl jones delivered, gives you the chills.... I'm sure Denzel watched it dozen times to prep
Totally agree i just seen it for the first time today, and this scene just doesn’t have the gravity of the play. Denzel was amazing but Earl Jones was next level 😮
"He's a good man and father."
Lmao, he cheated on his wife and lost her. He only got "his" house by stealing his brother's war pension. One son ended up in jail and the other lost out on a football scholarship to go to college (because his dad was jealous) and refused to go to the dad's funeral.
Hug your kids and tell them you love them ffs.
AMEN.
Yuuuppp very true
he thought he was doing the best that he could which ended up being the worst that he could
Was this what happened in the movie?
@@dh3940 yea
A simple "no" would've sufficed.
And by no he means HELL no
@Trav true my dad tried that preach crap with me many times never did it work typical
It wasnt a yes or no question though
Son - " how come you ain't never like me?"
Father - "no"
that would of made no sense
🤣
Real N 😂😂
Sometimes a boy just wants to know wether or not he is loved..... And if no one tells him..... Things get messy.
(Wow.. This is the most responses I've had in youtube. ty ty)
The tough thing about it is how the parents respond, and it seems to change our expectations at first on how it will go. But the only reason why some kids do this is because they feel so down on themselves on how their parents may look at them, so they want answers that can relive all that negativity weighing down on them, their self-worth. They are kids growing up dealing with their own problems. They just want some assurance that that they are loved. Sure the world have cruel people and they can't worry about people like that who may use and abuse them. But when it comes to support, that will be brought up as a result of someone's wavering self-esteem.
I have to keep me mind of Troy's psyche, as his mother left him with lies and his father was abusive. That can get into a person's mind, and they lived based on how the child lived around it as they grow up. Cory didn't know at the time as he sees Troy always so angry.
This is why our kids are messed up today, we as parents try to be our kids friend and not they parent ..he clearly explained to him life..its not about likes ..get a girl u want someone to like u
@@dbdh1358 Bro. There's a balance though. You can't treat your child like he's a damn pet. He has some good points, but damn is it too much to show your child some love?
Db* Dh preach that’s my grandfather talking to my dad and he stumbled in life but I got that same message as my dad without my grandfather saying not one of does words .......... it’s was all about his actions
The word his sone used is "Like" though. Theres a huge difference in liking someone and loving someone.
The lesson in this scene was a deep and real one for every man in real life.
james earl jones really had that intensity that made you freeze in place during this scene.
denzel is saying a lot of hurtful things but the way he says it makes it sound like he's also hurt. there's this extra layer of depth not only because of the way he delivers it but also how his eyes look
just goes to show that good actors really know how to put their own personal spin on a role and still be amazing no matter how different they are
Yeah. Both are really good, but I like James Earl Jones' delivery better. Troy's characterworks as a bitter old man who only cares about his job.
@@j.leonardo260Yea but I don’t think that makes his character interesting that way. I believe it’s more interesting when your character has shades of grey. In this scene Denzel has a point but is going about it wrong
The fact that Denzel Washington didn’t get an Oscar for this is outrageous💯
Difficult. Viola Davis was amazing in this as well. Stole a little of his Oscar thunder I'd say. Honestly, I thought Casey Affleck definitely deserved it as well. His performance in "Manchester by the Sea" was something special.
It wasn't a Good enough performance bc he came off as an unloving Dad to His own child. Its a sick thing and very wrong for Dads to be unloving.
John Akridge but the movie has good messages in it.
John Akridge that shows how good he played the role. You are not supposed to
Like him in this movie, and you seem to fall right for it
Denzel Washington: The coolest dude ever born.
I thought this would end up like a "I don't like you , I LOVE you" kinda thing... boy was I wrong
Unfortunately, I never had a father or a mother for that matter BUT great movie...had me in tears.
My biological father is the complete opposite; telling me he loved me all the time but barely provided for me and cheated his way out of my life anyway
Sooo glad my father didn't subscribe to this "tough love from a distance" type of parenting. He was firm when necessary but loving and caring at all times...
That's how it should be.
Depends on the person, there’s no guide when parenting naturally. The way you parent is based on your OWN instinct and consideration with how your parents raised you.
I'm afraid you didn't understand the movie right. It's not about 'tough love', it's about 'tough' period. There's no love in that guy's heart, for better or worse.
U sound spoiled. A child should be happy to at least have a parent doing right by them. So many deadbeat parents. Liking a child is a luxury to the child and an option to the parent.
@TCT usually because of culture, including the female partner and/or family wanting a kid. In this case, she likely wanted the kid. So she can like the kid, but the father’s responsibility is to do right by the kid (including both parents making sure kid grows right, so i lost you there). Worse is there are parents that’ll say i love u but dont do jack for the kid. Those are the kids who get confused and messed up.
1:46 _Now, don't you go thru life worrying about whether somebody like you or not. You best be making sure they're doing right by you. You understand what I'm saying?_
“Yes sir”
This is the takeaway.
That’s the part where he actually swtiches to ”yes, I like you” but didn’t say it because he felt the need to teach him a lesson about how life works
@@sutsutsii7487 would’ve been better if he said yes and then proceeded with the lesson. Smh some people have issues expressing love.
People bypass this and think he’s a bad father but is missing the education he’s bestowing onto his son. He clearly loves his child he’s training him for the world the real world , he’d thank his father in the future if it was real
Denzel can be a motivator,a villain and a hero and he still can deliver lines like they have a powerful message behind them
Denzel proved again, in this movie, why he is one of the best actors in the business! It’s almost magical when he’s on the screen. As black people, we are so proud of Denzel! His son is starting to become a good actor, in his own right! Peace.
True. Me, as a half white half Asian guy, Denzel is just my most favorite actor of all time. He is straight at the top of my list. He is just solid and so incredibly charismatic and versatile and fantastic at everything. And never would I ever get tired of him. He is really a gem. A really really big fan!!
@@Izaan2810 - I and, other black people, are very proud of him as an actor. He, too, is perhaps my favorite actor. Yes, he is very versatile and, usually, takes only good roles. He’s at that status where he can pick the truly good roles that he desires. Also, I am watching his son because I can see a fine actor, taking after his famous father. Only time will really tell, of course. I will continue to watch them both because, I know, that whatever role that they do will be fascinating. Peace.
@@darincampbell467 True. A really big fan of both of their work. John David is just getting better and better each movie and is legit killing it. He is definitely making his dad proud and would continue to nail it. Denzel is really THE pride of cinema with his incredible talent and intelligence. Peace, my friend.
@@Izaan2810 - Good points! Peace to you!
I think people get confused because they can't separate the awesome way Denzel delivered these lines and the horrible context of the words he delivered. A Father should know his Son idolizes him and he shouldn't just like him but love him. My Father clothed and fed me but he also hugged me and told me he loved me. He was my best friend until the day he died. I remember we were playing a Little League baseball championship and my Father said he couldn't make it because he had to work. I was at bat and I saw my Father running to watch the game. I cried like a baby in front of the team and we won the game. I hope Father's know the most manly thing you can do is take care of your family and not just like but love your kids. I understand the story though. The way some men and women are raised makes it hard for them to show emotions to their kids.
what law says that??? LOL!
But the thing is denzel said he loved him but in a roundabout way. My grandpa was the same way as denzel, never said he loved me etc. but at the end of his life he made sure I knew he loved me mentally, verbally, spiritually, everything
Son: Needs to listen and read between lines
Father: Needs to understands that Mr WRAN will promote him to Director if he works hard enough
Mr WRAN : doesn't like father but can recognise hard work.
Moral: Son needs to use the education father has given him and apply for a job with Mr WRAN as fathers line manager...🤣
I think Denzels character felt trapped by his life. He felt limited even though he had a good wife and family. That's why he cheated. It's hard to show genuine love to someone you see as an obligation and not a gift.
@@kevinjackson7125 he is showing love. He not giving no stranger this lecture bc he dont care about a stranger. He telling his so this bc he love him. Trust me I all men in my life was the same way
Too many children out there being raised without fathers, it's a detriment to the sons of this country.
Here🤚 and Anthony nailed it on the head. It affected my childhood. Im liking his comment for that.
@Toxic Grunt yeah right, theres definitely great men out there that were just raised by there mothers.
Mike Conville what was the point?
Mike Conville I don’t know why but you seem a lil salty...
Mike Conville I never said you weren’t I just said that you seemed salty. Interesting...
He may have provided his son's basic needs, but he has royally failed in providing emotional support and needs.
Me and my dad have a great relationship. I have a great career and now have a wife and son of my own. I never questioned if my father “liked” me even though he was tough on me. That relationship with your parents is everything.
And you knew he loves you by providing for you and doing right by you.
The son wasn't even implying that he had to like him. He had a simple question, WHY, and never got an answer.
Having to justify why you don't like someone is also not a law. He doesn't owe the kid anything but gives him everything he has available to him. If his son can't see that it is true love his father has for him then he is just being ungrateful.
@Conrad Ferrus Glad to hear your perspective on it, though the way you read a situation is more about you and your personal experience in life, as is mine.
Conrad Ferrus guess so
@@romeosra i dont think its a weird interpretation for the boy to see his fathers actions as being done out of duty and not out of love. In fact, isnt that what he directly says? That he is only doing his duty as a father putting food on the table for him.
@@hakon7269 what is love but a night at the Roxbury.
This was my dad, I eventually distanced from him, as I got older he would complain that I would not treat him like a father, that's because he never treated me like a son.
asdf qwerty
That’s how it is for me. I have no relationship with my father. And I really don’t want one.
Did you starve at home?
@asdf.....I get and understand why and how you felt, but did you tell your father....WHY?
@@NikephorosCaesar being a parent is more then feeding your child.
Honestly Denzels character is just saying that stuff cause he's disappointed that his son doesn't realize all of his hard work is because he loves him. He really wanted him to say "because you love me." But since the son didn't say the dad made it seem like only does it cause he has to.
I feel more strongly for this scene
as I am currently a meter away from my dad's coffin, attending his Funeral Wake.
My dad wasn't like this, he gave me freedom, was considerate and loving.
Though now that he is gone, I will now carry the responsibilities he left me and be a good man and a good father to my future children.
And that, is one of the greatest ways that you can honor your father. Live life, Love yourself & others, & with every decision you make, make it with wisdom.
GOD BLESS YOU.
Posting a CZcams comment at a funeral? Nice way to respect your dad.
@@homage1208, Its a "Funeral Wake", not a Funeral, learn the difference. I keep watch over his coffin at night all throughout till the morning rise.
No one else is around here, I am the only one to stay awake and keep watch over him.
What do you expect me to do, stare into nothingness everyday? I search in the internet for things that reminds me of him, and now you say things as if you know me and that I don't respect my father. You're the one disrespectful here.
@@homage1208, nice way to respect the mourners idiot.
Bro you posted this on the James Earl Jones stage version of this. How long you babysitting this corpse for?
Me as a father understand 100% whats he is talking about.
We have to do what we have to do, not because we’re not feeling good, been a father nowadays is harder, because you have to fight to everybody, wife, kids, and the world. Nobody understand you, but you have to understand everybody
The other day, my older niece was playing one of these games where you ask young children a list of questions to see their candid responses...usually funny. My niece asked my then 9 year old, "Who loves you the most?" and, with no hesitation, he said, "My Dad.." I overheard the game from the next room, and I cant lie, I choked up...
You’re obviously an awesome Dad. Nice one 👍
Beautiful
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Much love to ur family ❤
Respect to you! Kids are the most honest people in the world. Anything they say is truth.
“Don’t worry about somebody liking you just make sho' they doing right by you”
Not hope. Make sure
@@Samsonight33 your just repeating what the the comment just said lol dummy
@@jcherrax he was adding to the quote, the thought and the discussion -- and you added nothing. who's the dummy?
@@jcherrax comment was clearly edited lol
@@IrregularPineapples your moms the dummy 😎
The thing that gets lost when people are looking at this. He teaches him how to stand up for himself, take responsibility for children and make sure he’s done right by people. Those are huge. He’s not a good parent but he’s not a absentee one either.
Factz, if he didn't LOVE his son he wouldn't have said anything except get the hell out of my face. But he loves him enough to give him the REAL and teach his son a Priceless lesson in Life its self.
He teaches him to become a dysfunctional adult
@@SavageKEThat's not love, buddy. That's the bare minimum. Like he said, it's an obligation to him. Trust his word.
@@pig9412he a put him out if he didn’t like his son dude, he said he works hard to feed him
I love Denzel performance on film in this movie, but the legendary James Earl Jones stage play for fences was on another level!! 💯
It's great that it pops up on tge recommended videos. Same source material but interpreted differently by two wonderful actors.
Denzel is literally in the top 3 actors of all time.
Who are the other two?
@@marcdieubon6267 al pacino
@@ninoino8519 they're my two favorites
Top 6 not in Order :
Daniel Day Lewis
Gary Oldman
Joaquin Phoenix
Denzel Washington
Al Pacino & De Niro
@@buntaii9878 where is marlon Brando ?
Reading some of these comments i realise how lucky i am. My dad is a retired police officer of 37 years, strong and quiet. He has always told me he loves me and still does to this day. He hugged me the other day after not seeing me for 3 days.
Ikr i hope some of the people in this comment section never have kids lmao
You’re lucky to have a father like that
@@emmanuelyasi8020 I know
I wish my Dad was still here to hug me.
@@origamipein18 for the last time i ain't yo dad fool!!! The DNA test said that there was only a 2% chance i was not yo dad and 2% is a big number!!!
My dad was like the Denzel character in a lot of ways. Old school military. He once told me he felt no obligation to support my decisions. He wasn’t a bad person he just didn’t know how to relate to his kids very well.
Troy has no empathy. He never considers how much his words hurt Rose and Cory throughout. He expects them to have the reaction he wants them to have. He never puts himself in anyone else’s shoes; if he had, he would’ve realized that he never wanted anyone to say to him what he said to Cory here. He thinks he’s passing on a major lesson, but all Cory takes from it is “it’s true, Dad really doesn’t like me.”
This hurt cos it resonates with me powerfully watching a father do this never considering how his words bite. And for sure, he never wants to hear anything even close to this from any one.😢😢
That was his way of saying of course I love you.. sometimes pride and other things get in the way of actually saying those words🙄
Yep
That’s the exact opposite of what he said.
Facts
@@TheAngryBadger3 in black folks terminology that clearly SAYS SON I LOVE U!
"Pride goeth before fall"
Yup, that's how it was with my dad. His old saying was, "IM NOT YOUR FRIEND, I AM YOUR FATHER."
Your*
I am you are father 😂
I tell me daughter that when she says that I’m mean. 😂 I say, “I’m not here for you to like me, I’m here to be your mother and protect you”.
It's weird seeing "you're" used incorrectly hahaha
Super Duty 455 Lol
This really illustrates the power of charisma...how Denzel can make this fool of a character sound so wise.
My father was like this. Not the most affectionate person. He once said he owes me until he dies because I am his son. At the time, I didn't understand but as I get older I do. The worth of a man is intrinsically tied to his obligations. Duty is what defines a man. A person can love you but fail to do right by you. But doing right by you is the only love worth having. A man fulfills his obligations, regardless of how he feels.
Very well said. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
Well said
He did his son the biggest favor. "Don't you go through life worrying about whether somebody like you or not - you best be sure they doin' right by you!"
If you're conditioned to go through life trying to appease people and make them like you - you get NOTHING.
Joshi The Yoshi Ik that but my dad was never like that
Welp welcome to the new era where "my fee fees" rule everything........
It's what make ppl act so fake, just so they can be liked
A Friendly Hobo Yeah well at least his father is being honest
A Friendly Hobo wym? The son asked if his dad LIKED him. Big difference between liking and loving someone. You could love someone without liking them.
Denzel did James Earl Jones Justice with this performance. The original is just as good.
I just saw the clip with Jones and it was even better, and I'm a fan of both of them
James Earl Jones is a stern dad while Denzel Washington is a pathetic dad. Two sides of the same deadbeat coin, both are fantastic.
I think Earl's delivery was better. Denzel's feels too rushed, almost no pauses, words don't seem have the same impact. It's like he's supposed to be educating his son, letting the words sink in, but it feels like he just hastily recites his lines with a bit of "Denzel" thrown on top.
Eiind Yeah, that JEJ clip is one where you remind yourself to breathe.
if not better honestly
Father ain't supposed to be your friend...he is your father 💯 🙏 and he supports you. Duty and responsibility as a father. Where do he got to like you? He loves you but he does it in a way that hes trying to teach you.
my dad has never told me he loves me, but every action and thing he does for me ensures that he DOES love me. everyone shows love a different way
He never said his dad had to like him
He just asked why he didnt like him
DudeDad the whole point of this scene is that Denzel doesn’t like his son because he LOVES him. Hence all the stuff about breaking his back to support him and make sure he never wants for anything.
@@BuddhaBless328 Don't worry, that'll be lost on most. And in the James Earl Jones version when he says "make sure people do right by you" he pulls the child in and plants a hand on his chest and another on his shoulder in a loving way. He spends the entire time telling him to get over being liked and know who does right by you, sending home the message he is loved. It'll take a child years to get it but they'll never forget it.
@@BuddhaBless328 - No. It's not love he's expressing. It's obligation. There was nothing loving in that speech. Troy was not a man who was loved in his own childhood, so where would he get that from? What he's talking about in that scene is transactional. "I'm doing what I'm supposed to do." That's not love.
BuddhaBless328 No. He even uses the example of his boss giving him the paycheck because it’s his duty further implementing the fact that he doesn’t do the things he does for his son because he loves him. He does it because that’s the unspoken but agreed upon transaction that was made. You came from me into this world so I will take care of you because it’s my duty.
@@BuddhaBless328 That has no correlation if the reason the dad is doing all of these things is because he loves him.
Clothing and feeding a child is not raising your child that only MAINTAINING A CHILD
The realist comment here
That probably depends on how poor you are and how hard you work just to maintain food, shelter, and clothing...
@@jeffreyjustis5338 Then dont have kids at all
It’s the foundation of feeding and clothing a child as a duty is what is being conveyed here. You sound spoiled, dada not give you enough attention?
@@RaiderDawg No child owes you payback for that that s your duty as a parent. Me and my pops cool lmao
I always say this Fences is one of the most amazing acting performance by the lead actors in the history of film,Denzel and Viola killed it
They both should've won. Not just Viola.
Can’t worry about someone liking you. Hell I don’t even care if you tell me you love me. Showing that love means so much more than hearing “I love you” a million times
The motto here is "I'm not your friend, I'm your father"
yeah, but do you like me though lol
@@mikophilo348 I dOn'T gOt To LiKe YoU!!!
Blows me away that a benevolent King can seem like a tyrant to a prince that will eventually become a benevolent King.
Exactly!
@@ydm760 What now?
My dad had never showed love towards me, he had me when he was 15 & it would make me feel bad because he would never say he loved me or hugged me or show any affection & then I realized that it was because my grandpa was the same way w him. I show my dad that i love him & hug him anytime i can & now he tried to do it back. Thats why w my son I hug him & remind him every day that i love him
You sound like a great father Carlos. I hope the best for you and your family!
That’s so sweet... I know you must be an amazing father
Well done Carlos for breaking that cycle. Bravo
Breaking that cycle. Ain't easy but neccessary.
You echoing my life man!
My dad was a a-hole like this. I make sure I love and actually listen to all my kids. I never want them to feel afraid of me. That’s not love.
My friend there is a difference between respect and being scared
Crazy this popped up on my feed for Father’s Day.
Well I tell my son about this world, but I still tell him I Love him everyday for the simple fact You never know when it’ll be the last time you get to tell em
Suwoop
You are a good dad
You’re a great dad.
One thing I can say about my father rest his soul he taught me game a lot of game about life and how cold and cruel it can be but he was somebody I could talk to you make me feel like s*** when I asked him a question about life for for advice there's some fathers who take the disciplinarian role too far sure you got in still responsibility and discipline but some people just let it go to their head like I said my father taught me a lot of game and he just had conversations with me a lot of boys just want to be able to talk to their dad about experiences so they can learn
I’m all for tough love but if your child is that age and still wondering why he’s not loved then that’s a failure on the father. He looked at him as a job, a responsibility. Not a son.
Agreed
I agree
Agreed.
He didn't ask if he loved him he asked if he liked him
Perfectly said
A lot of people watch this out of context - but the dad in the movie is actually the bad guy
I’ve heard about tough love. This must be tough obligation.
This how old school men used to think... they had a lot of pressure on their shoulders and had to be tough or at least act like it. He was just preparing his son the best way he knew.
Sometimes the only way you know isn't a good way
@Travis Johnson sometimes the only way you know isn't a good way
@@jacobsaccount9353 damn! Say that again.
@Chris Spencer LOL
in fact, it's not just how men thought -- mothers, too, were taught that "coddling" a son with talk of love and affection would lead to a weak adult. thank god countless studies in the 20th century disproved that. (kids actually become more self-reliant and stable when they grow up with support and attention)
I like when he says “straighten up god dam it”
I got heavy Vietnam style flashbacks of my pops after hearing that lol.
You like when he blasphemes the name of God?
Jerrell Simmons forreal man..my dad does the exact same thing when he’s pissed and he’s about to let me know wassup
@@claytonatkinson865 Chill out religious nut.
@@claytonatkinson865 ... he said got dammit... not god...
Denzel plays a hard working dad that provides for his family. Reminds me of my dad
That's harsh and emotionally abusive, but he also told his son a very important thing. Rather someone likes you or not does not matter, what matters is if they're doing right by you.
He loves his son. Love is shown in your actions
@@deonsavage9974 action can tell who a person is but words tells someone intent
it's a tough love, feels like a major loving his privates
@@maketemmiegreatagain5246but words itself is not good enough. Action speak louder than words
@@KelechiNwoko In what way is it not good enough? But that's not the point anyway. Action can tell you how good of a person that guy is for helping the homeless, words can tell you why he helped the homeless which is to get votes.
I don’t know how i feel about this. Providing for a child is half of it the other half is nurturing it teaching loving guiding.
Reminds me of my father, he raised me by himself although that must have been hard he was never loving. My father and I don’t have much of a relationship today, we don’t hug or show affection, but the best complement I got from him when he saw me with my son and told me Ive been a much better father then he ever was.
Always send love where you don’t sense it. And congrats on breaking the cycle homie, Im sure your dad is more proud than he can express
At the end of the day Denzel's character is just plain wrong here......but Denzel is such a fantastic actor that he really gets you on his side for a moment or two.
Denzel's character is basically telling his son, "I only have to give you the bare minimum, and that's all you're getting, now go away". Can't imagine speaking to my own child that way.
“A boy who is not loved grows into a man who hates.”
Let's agree to disagree.
@@MrRevil3 I don't really care what you think.
@@queensmickey someone wasn't loved as a child
@@queensmickey I care , coz I understand and relate to Ur words
Beta!!!!!!!!🤦🤦 be a man return to the father lord Jesus Christ.
Lmao. Everyone in the comments is trying to pull life lessons from this movie meanwhile im just picking my jaw off the floor after witnessing this glorious acting by Mr. Washington
Want a cookie?
Exactly
James Earl Jones did it better.
@David Ortiz yes. He did
@David Ortiz yes. He did.
"Yea I know I'm just saying WHY don't you like me" lmao
I had a teacher like this in school. Everyone was always nervous around him. So intimidating. Denzel plays the "Hardass" so well in this movie.
I almost died a few years ago, and lost a leg during the incident. Its a long story, but the point is my dad was with me every single day i needed him, as was my mother and sister. They stood beside me no matter what. Family is everything.
True fools think being a parent is simply putting food on the table and just ignoring your child's emotional needs and wants.
In this world no one is owed is anything, and that includes love. And the only one who can provide love and comfort is your parents, and if you are a parent that is depriving your child out of that, your child will eventually distance themselves from you and approach those who loves them.
Sometimes giving your child what he/she wants can spoil them
Love is not one of those things that spoils a child.
I sincerely hope you’re not using denzel’s character as an example... because if you are, you missed the point.
@@lcunash8093 this one.
@@Newton988 Growing up with a father like this lead me to search for love in all the wrong places. Now I've found Jesus Christ who gives all the love I want. Loving your child, though, is a requirement. And your son or daughter should hear that from you. I want my child to know I love them until they're annoyed by it.
My dad and I always fought when I was growing up. Recently he's gotten really sick. He said to me "We ain't got to like each other, but God damn it I love you."
My dad was alot like this and I had a hell of a childhood dealing with him, but ill never forget when I got real sick years back and was literally on my death bed my dad held me with a panicked and helpless yet sincere loving voice telling me he loved me, and he couldn't lose me and that moment was the only reason I forgave him for all the years of him abusing me verbally and physically. But that moment was special to me and it came at the worst time in my life.
Why should it have to get to that point though?
Great movie, can be a rollercoaster to watch if you had similar experiences growing up. My father left when I was 6 months old and I’ve only ever met him once since then. Sometimes I wish I had a tough father rather than no father. If there is one thing I have learned is that if I ever have kids, I won’t abandon them and I won’t be tough on them, I’ll just be there. It’s all about breaking the cycle.
My dad has never told me he loves me. Yet I know he does for the matter that hes not really my dad but he took me as his own and raised me. He fed me and close me the best he could grew up dirt poor but he did what he could
@Tom Ross TV lol why does that matter ? i'm pretty sure latino people, or indian & Indonesian people living in poverty could come to the same conclusion. EVERYONE & every situation is different.
Just because he fed you, clothed you, housed you doesn't mean he loved you. He's required by law to do that or else he'll go to jail.
@@bane3991 it was the step dad that raised him. The step dad could have decided not to be in a relationship with a woman who already has a kid. But instead he 'stepped' up to be the man in Rick's life that his biological father wouldn't be
This is almost WORD FOR WORD a conversation I once had with my father. Powerful.
Read the THIRD word in my original post.
your dad didnt love you?
Pity
He read the play, for sure
I just lost my dad, he was a hard man, worked 15 hour days, 3am to 5/6pm, he was stern and very blunt. But from that he taught me how to be a man, he taught me the value of work and knowledge, he taught me how to act and be a gentleman, at times we didnt see eye to eye because i was too young to understand but now that im older i completely understand. The one thing he would do is tell me how proud he was of me, of what ive become, of the strides i took and the obstacles ive overcame to get where i am today. He was hard but for very good reason, he is the reason im who i am today and for that i could never have asked for a better teacher. I love you dad.
Very well written. Im sorry for your loss. ❤
My dad is like this and its alot of the reason we never got along and never will get along. The old ways of thinking are just no good anymore
@@citomakaveezly Im fine with it. At this point im far past the point of even wanting anything. Well just avoid eachother and itll be more of a loss for him than it ever couldve been for me
My old man was stern too. I never understood why when I was younger, but as I got older. I realized, he was raising me to have a thick skin, and be able to survive on my own in this harsh world, I am forever thankful for that. The problem today is a lot of parents are more concerned with their kids liking THEM now, instead of teaching them the necessary skills to handle the real world.
True but you cant always be too strict either. Your child will grow up bitter and cold. Broken. Carrying a rock and grudge. A good balance of love and tough love.
I'm not at all disagreeing with you, I just perhaps had a very easy upbringing. I need to ask you, so as to understand, what harshness in the world did you encounter that you think you wouldn't have survived had your dad's stern attitude not primed you for it?
@@brianticas7671 Remember, those were different times. This generation is too soft
If he was anything like this then he was just a bad parent. Kids later in life tell them selves what ever abuse or lack of love they suffered was "for the ultimate good" Because it helps them cope with having parents who sucked at being parents. It's why things like physical abuse often become cyclical.
Some people just happen to have kids but not everyone is capable of being a good parent.
It shouldnt be one or the other. World would be hella better if parents taught their kids the necessary skills for the world AND liking their kids. Sadly, lots of parents are never really ready to have kids yet they have them.
I cried at this scene in the movie theater because it reminded me of my Daddy who we had just lost not too long prior. You get what you get because that's all he had to give. PERIOD.
💯
DADS. TELL YOUR SONS YOU LOVE THEM. YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH IT IS NEEDED.
My Dad never said he loved me or hugged me, it wasn't in him. He showed us he loved us by busting his butt taking care of us.
I miss talking to him. RIP Dad.
When me and my father watched that part he said" some days I like you son but the main reason why I take care of you is because I love you and it's a parents responsibility to take care of their child."
Btw he's my step father and he chooses to do this
His son thought that he didnt like him because Denzel's character never supported him on the things HE wanted to pursue with his life. Denzel wanted him to live his life in a manner HE thought was best....sad story but I can relate.
So can I
Me too
Roof over your head, clothes on your back, food in your belly.
@DBZaniack247 You keep saying this like that’s all kids want from their parents. That’s the BARE MINIMUM you are SUPPOSED to give your children. By choosing to bring them into the world to begin with that’s what is owed. It’s not something to be used to guilt trip your kids into living their lives the exact way the parents want, and it certainly doesn’t make someone a “good” parent. Parents will act like this and then wonder why their kids don’t interact with them once they’re adults.
@@zzzohmy who hurt u fam? Mom or dad?
I understand where he’s coming from. As a father , he’s trying to teach his son to know his worth and demand that he be given his worth. But a son also needs the LOVE of his father. The love of a father can set a young man up for a successful life where he is sure of himself and his direction in life. If he’s deprived of that he can be met with a difficult road ahead of himself because he’ll have to learn to provide that love to himself. Many men who were not shown love from a father figure unfortunately never learn how to give it to themselves and go about life feeling lost.
Just tell your kids you love them because if you don’t they will seek it else where even if it’s from the wrong people. I tell my son 100 times a day daddy loves him
It’s a good life lesson. Because when your parents are gone. No ones a real friend. People talk to hear themselves. Respect yourself and the people you look after cause that’s all you got.
Facts
thats bullshit it aint true just because you dont have friends it doesnt mean they dont exist
That's because no one likes you. It's not like that for us normal people
My Haitian father had 3 GOLDEN rules
1.U not bring home "A"s for me u doing it for yourself.
2.Once your 18 I'M NOT RESPONSIBLE for u get your act together n get a job.
3.If u ever go to jail don't bother calling me n u can remove your last name while u at it also cause u no longer good enough to represent the family last name.
That alone is what made me n 11 of his children what they are STRONG,
I think every dad has talked to their son like this! I know ive heard this a few times growing up... It teaches respect, though😊
LmThis...this right here... is why men suicide number goes up.
Watching this movie with my dad and how somehow him not realizing he was just like this is something I never understood.
Denzel going off on the poor boy, all he wants is some love and affection
@@Saturnia2014 are you speaking from experience?
That’s why he has a mother for
This scene is millennial kryptonite .
@@RobertM425 Nah, it's called abuse.
@@17thwonder Yep. And I've also seen my friends go through the same thing.
“Stand up straight got damnit”🤣🤣🤣
James Earl Jones set a unbelievable tone in this original scene that somehow Denzel Washington complimented, not replace or take in a different direction, but almost echo leaving his own tone.
Most parents arent ready to have kids, even when thay think their ready. When i was kid, most adults seemed too serious, miserable and boring. Most adults forget what it felt like to be a kid, so their unable to relate to their kids. Life shouldn't be that way.