MERCEDES BENZ 7-Speeds 722.9 ATF FLUSH not a Change
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- čas přidán 7. 06. 2019
- UPDATE: since the time i made this video i now have better understanding of the thermostat that is included in the additional-cooler, the fluid will always bypass the thermostat regardless of the ATF temperature, if it is lower than 90 it will pass through the rear openings and the whole additional cooler is excluded from the circuit, And if it is higher than 90 it will open toward the front and allow the ATF to pass through the cooler.
SUMMERY: regardless if your car is equipped with Additional cooler or not, when flushing just proceed like it is not equipped and follow the steps from the video.
If you planning to keep your Mercedes Benz for long time, here is one service that you must do, unlike MB claims that the newer transmissions are filled with life time fluid and they should not be replaced, my experience tells me it’s a matter of time before your transmission fails if you don’t execute frequent fluid changes or better fluid flush (not the scam 10 min service center fluid flush, rather a professional fluid flush as described in this video).
The procedure take less than 2 hours and mostly standard tools, any extra tools and all parts are mentioned here.
I recommend fluid flush every 40K mile or 60K km.
Required parts:
BLUE MB ATF 10 Liters, spec number 236.15, ATF 134 FE, 0019897703
ATF filter 2222772000
Pan gasket 2202710380
Green overflow pipe 2222710097
6 new pan bolts (recommended) 0049903512
Drain plug washer 007603012102
ATF return line o-rings (2) 0199975845
Special Equipment
722.9 filling adapter, I used MVA588 adapter
Fluid pump, I used MOTIVE POWER FILL PRO (2 GALLONS)
½ INCH INNER DIAMTER LONG CLEAR HOSE
A quick disconnect coupling
722.9 generations differences:
Non-chamfered pan (black overflow pipe), Uses old red fluid spec (236.14), temperature for fluid adjustment is 35C/96F. Mercedes recommend replacing this pan with the newer chamfered pan with the white overflow pipe.
Chamfered pan (white overflow pipe), Uses old red fluid spec (236.14), temperature for fluid adjustment is 45C/113F.
Chamfered pan (green overflow pipe) cars made after 21JUN2010 (mostly 2011 model year up), Uses the new blue fluid spec (236.15), temperature for fluid adjustment is 45C/113F. Check your Mercedes build sheet www.datamb.com/ for option A89 (reduced friction) which calls for this fluid.
Check MB for compatible fluids:
bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevoli...
Some cars are equipped with additional ATF cooler beside the integrated cooler in the radiator, look in front of the radiator for a small cooler that connects to ATF lines, this cooler has an integrated thermostat that only allow ATF flow above 90c.
If you have this option, modify the flushing procedure accordingly, u might have to leave the car warm up until ATF flow from return line, and when you are finished with flushing you might have to leave it cool down to below the checking temperature.
Torque specs:
ATF pan bolts: 4NM + 180 degrees (if you decided to re use the old bolts, torque them to 4NM then set your torque wrench to 9NM and turn them towards 180 degrees, stop upon reaching the 180 degrees or 9NM which ever comes first).
Drain plug: 22NM
ATF return line E14 bolt 106 in.lb
Finally enjoy the video - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Important info is in the video description plus torque specs
Thanks for the video! Do we have to replace the return line oring? Is this better than draining torque converter? I cannot find the TC plug..need to turn with 27mm socket, right?
Thomas Hui not all MB have the TC plug, this is definitely a better method because it drains not only the TC but the cooler and all the return lines as well, mercedes had this method in their service manual for the earlier versions .
About the o-rings, i like to replace them, but u can inspect them and if u r car has low miles i think these would be fine to re use.
Thanks for the comment
@@TheFlyingMechanicDIY I removed 5L through the return line and pumped in 5L but the old fluid still did not turn to new..still better than just a pan drop.. Your procedure worked for my 16' GLE350. Thx
Thomas Hui , it probably did, its just hard to differentiate the new vs old fluid because of the dark color.
Thanks for watching
Hi there,thanks for a great video.
I have a question please, What would the symptoms be if you have old transmission fluid?
I drive a Ml63 2009 model. Current symptoms
1. Slight vibration on uphill at low revs 2000 rpm low speeds and most prominent when car as at operating temp 102 °C ,not as much when just started up eg. 60°< and the shifting is fine just a bit jurkey as soon as next gear is selected, high speeds gear shifting is much smoother.
I would appreciate it so much if you could give some feedback on this.
This video cured all my confusion, I made an appointment with dealer then realized there was no way in hell they would do all this as the tech could not answer a single question I asked. Thanks so much…
Flying mechanic "DIY"? I'd say Flying Mechanic PRO! Even FULL description of job, parts needed, & torque specs in description? Too good. This is the difference between someone who just works on cars & someone who loves cars. Thank you for caring enough to be good at what you do & for giving ppl like me a proper example of this job.
i wish all mechanics were professional like him.
Most comprehensive and easy-to-follow guide on a 722.9 service. Thank you!
Love this guy's attention to detail and instructions !! If only my airplane mechanics were this devoted.
😂😂😂😂 .. hope u r not an airliner
Just completed a transmission flush on my w209 clk500 75,000kms and x164 gl450 90,000kms. Thanks for the great video, your explanation made the job very easy. I did not have the motor medic fluid pump so I used a 1.5L fluid pump and it worked great.
I have gone through so many videos on CZcams regarding ATF changing, I am sure this is the best and contain every information and helped make all of my doubts clear. Thanks a lot
Hi Kumar
Is this the same for a S350 2014 W222 transmission 7G 722..903???? Regards : John UK
AWESOME UNICORN SABINA A same for all 722.9 (except some AMG models with the wet clutch not a torque converter)
@@TheFlyingMechanicDIY my w205 c63 transmission has a wet clutch which cannot be drained correct? About how much fluid should transmission take just removing pan? Thanks!
kelvin sun between 4.5-5.5L
Awesome video! Thank you so much for taking the time to make this video and all the knowledge you have shared. It is very much appreciated!
Thank you for the video, i just did a flush (6l dumped out). After the dealer and mechanics telling me that the GL350 didn't need transmission servicing now at its at 200,000KM and there is torque shuddering. After the flush, shuddering is almost all gone. I will drive a few more KM and see if I need to add additive such as Shudder Fixx. thanks again for the great video.
Thank you for this excellent video. I performed this service on my 2008 CL550, in my driveway, so I was not a quick as you. excellent results using AMSOIL transmission fluid. The most difficult operation was reinstalling the pan with the new gasket, took me a few tries to get the gasket to seal. Very sensitive to the light torque specs. If torqued to tight the gasket rolls and leaks. With 114,400 miles I believe this is the first transmission service on this Mercedes. Old fluid was black, new fluid and the CL550 purrs!
Best informative video on transmission fluid replacement!!!
Best video for ATF flush.
Real nice and detailed. Worked for my 2014 GL450. Note that there is a thermostat bypass in the cooler lines, so you won’t be able to drain the cooler with this method. Thanks,
Thanks for the video and specifying the temp for the green overflow. VEry helpful!
This is the best video for this transmission. Thank you!
Fantastic video...Thank you so much for taking the time to show us how to do this!
Very informative video! Thanks for taking the time to put quality information out for us to learn from and view!! A+++++ Rating!!
Excellent video. Very thorough. I Will definitely be using this information. The best I have seen.
Flying MechanicDIY is the man! I really appreciate all the articulated details and picture qualify. Every critical closeup is crystal clear! I have been longing for a complete flush for my transmission and had no clue which spot on the tranny's cooler return path i can access easily. a lot of mechanics doing 722.9 just drain the torque converter but that approach still leaves behind quite some old fluid in the oil cooler and lines.
What a great video, especially the length you went to in the description. Well done, wish you were in Australia!
Doing the flush this way is excellent. I did this once with a minivan that I have and a couple times with my old Volvo 740. I would drain the pan and add clean tranny fluid then start the engine and pump out the dirty fluid. I pretty much do what you did , and once the fluid runs clean I then stop and check for fluid levels appropriately. I think I will check my 09 E350 Mercedes for the appropriate line and do as you did. Thanks , It just never crossed my mind to do this on my Benz as well
Great video simple straight forward (layman terms) explanation on how to do this job right and well thank you ;-)
Appreciate the detail of each steps. I flushed my transmission today for the first time at 169,000 for ML350 2010. Connecting clear hose to return line was painful, took me multiple attempts to attach half inch hose, and almost an hour! The entire task took me 4 hours but I was doing it for the first time. Car runs very smooth, no slips and or gear issue. I did use lifeguard transmission flush additive in the old oil before I started to put new oil and new filter. Thanks a lot!
I did mine unfortunate gears can't change noe
Great video! Thanks! The Canadian release of the W164 in 2006 had no transmission service interval, but after many shifting issues a service interval was added to models a few years later. The recommendation should have been brought backwards given that it is the same transmission, but it went into legal issues with cost of ownership instead of maintaining the vehicle so it would last.
A really good video. Well narrated and explained. Thanks for doing this.
Well explained and easy to follow !
You sound like a very knowledgeable mechanic 👍
Thx you very much sir, you have explained process perfectly and made it very easy for me to understand thank you very much
Excellent job. Very well done!
WOW!! Excellent video Sir! I looked all over youtube for days for a good through video how to do this. I'm doing this on my 2013 gl450 i think it should be exactly the same thanks again. only thing I don't have is a tool reader to get the temp to 113F degrees.
..for my 2013 Ml 350, I bought the MB2 scanner...about $120 on ebay...great tool to have. I get an annoying chk engine light every couple months for the gas filler return, evap line...but reads Temp. when I did this service.
Great explanation, and thank you.
Thank you for being a real technician and doing a proper job.. unfortunately nobody today wants to work like this and no customer wants to pay for a job like this. In America Atleast.
What do you think is fair price to pay for a job like this ?
@@darkvapor3302 my local MB dealer in NYC charges $775
Great video guy, lots of good information! Thanks!👍👏👏👏
Just had this done at the mechanic. Drained torque converter and lines,etc. Usef amsoil aignature aeries atf vs the stock atuff. New filter and gasket,etc. Used amsoil in the transfer case as well.
Very good, complete information
You’re the only one in CZcams making a transmission flush of Mercedes Car
Dunno if thats good or bad 🤣🤣
Very informative, well paced, and engaging video. Thanks I'm now subscribed
I never seen a similar professional handling and awareness while processing a job, thank you for the effort you spent on this video.
I saw a (Al ain water bottle), please update your workshop location in the "about".
😂😂😂 my viewers keep surprising me with the things they catch in the video 😂😂 unfortunately im no longer offering commercial services for the time being ..
I found it useful to remove the valve body and clean the top thoroughly. It collects a lot of debris and will dirty the new fluid immediately. Also, remove and clean the solenoids onn the valve body.
I was here a few weeks back with some turbine sensor issues in my 722.9 MB wanted to fit a new ECU Unit, but in the end, I drained the oil, drained the TQ (I found the plug) and removed the complete Matrix with attached ECU Control Unit. Using another channel here on YT, I took the ECU Control Unit off the valve body, drained and carefully cleaned that up, and then cleaned the actual ECU Control Body, including removing all 8 Solenoids and the gear shift selector. Loads of very very fine particles of Aluminium or Steel dust everywhere, just enough to cause tracking across the plugs where they are joined onto the foil circuit boards, causing the fault readings on the box (and him getting stuck in 3rd or 7th or ?. It took 6 hours including a total flush of the system and guess what, it's as good as new. 1000 kms later, still perfect!...... When you change the fluid in a 722.9, you also need to clean the ECU Control Unit as well, because you'd be amazed how much micro debrits gets left in there!........ it's all here on YT, and it's not that bad a job after all. Thanks for the tips. I will change the oil again in 3 years including the TQ. Nice to have found the plug!
Believe this aswel sensors must pick up metal after 5 years need good clean but trying to find garage to do it, what was problems you was having?
Great video thanks for posting
Great Video! I'll be following this video to replace my ML400 (68K) tranny Fluid within next couple of weeks.
very educative. Thank you .regards
He has an accent, he knows his stuff😊
I got 2014 GL450. Worked flawlessly. Thank you for all details fro do the job
I have the same vehicle. Can u pls share how did you attach the hose to the return oil cooler line? I am unable to force my fingers in that narrow space, to reach and attach a pipe to this line thanks,
@@NehaSinghal-ig8ir follow that return line back (to front of vehicle) to radiator, you will see metal strap that holds this line in place. I took it off and was able to pull back return line enough to get hose on.
@@BAFiusRUS Thanks. Do I also need to plug the hole where the return line connects to the transmission (passenger side on American vehicle)?
@@NehaSinghal-ig8ir no I didn’t, nothing comes out of there
@@BAFiusRUS your tips were so helpful and precise. Thanks again!
Vary good videos vary informative!!
Excellent video 👍
Good demo
If you are doing this on a w211 E63, disconnect the return line under the front bumper instead of at the transmission. The hose is flexible there instead of a metal tube.
Nice video. It was very detailed and informative
Another great video!
Ben Daniels thanks Mate
Thank you so much!
Great video with lots of great detail! I have a 2011 E63 AMG w/80k miles with the wet clutch (no torque converter). I plan on replacing the transmission fluid. Do I need to do this procedure or just the typical drain, remove and clean pan/magnets/replace filter/overflow pipe/gasket and refill trans?
Great video. Thank you so much.
"Stop thinking like a teenage girl!"....Very good video...Thanks!
And, 2013 ML 350 , I had NO drain Plug in my converter, ...I cranked it around several times looking...anyway, look no further, this is the best way to do the service. And please use Genuine Mercedes Fluid...Ya' saved a bundle by doing it yourself,
Very Good job!
I did the same procedure, but instead of taking off the return line, I removed the torque converter screw and emptied the system. Worked very well. The only surprise was that the pan gasguette was a bit hard to fit, and it took some time to adjust it carefully. If gasquette is not fit properly the pan will leak ACF fluid....
@You Wish There is a window with the plastic cover, you will have to remove the plastic cover which is very easy. The window exposes the bottum part of the torque converter. On there is a small screw on the torque converter which is to be accessed through this window but the screw might not be alined so that once can see it. The method is to start start and shut of the engine in a number of trails and after a number of trail (for me 4 - 6 times) the screw will align so that you can access it....
FCP Euro is a excellent source for all your Mercedes needs. Also offer lifetime warranty on all parts.
@The Flying MechanicDIY Is line to disconnect from the transmission the oil cooler return line (outlet)? This line would run from the top of the transmission oil cooler to the transmission near the pan? I am looking for a way to verify the line. My 2012 c350 has a slightly different look. Thanks in advance for the help. And great video. Very helpful.
great video thank you!
Great video!
Good tip, with the return line.
You can do it also by blowing air inside the transmission holes 1-2 bar max. You can remove 9 liters that way
Are you speaking generalities or about the 722.9 specifically? Please cite your source or (if this is from personal experience, please clarify.
@@southriverco personal experience working on cars with 722.9 and the older 722.6
@@aimasira1989 But the sump has to have ATF or some liquid (up to the filter level) in order for this to work. Otherwise as soon as the fluid dips below the filter you'll be pushing air, leaving all the fluid below the filter just sitting there. Same for the torque converter... the air will evacuate everything up until the center of the doughnut (where the pump is situated). As soon as the liquid falls below the port for the pump you'll be pushing air. You're leaving 3-4 liters of old ATF in the system. Can you give a more detailed explaination on your experience evacuating 9 liters by blowing air through the transmission please? Thank you in advance
@@southriverco no you didnt understand.
You will remove the sump and the filter, you will remove all oil that is possible and then you will do the rest.
You can then remove the bolt on the side of the gearbox that goes to the oil cooler to blow air their and also blow air throught the small holes under the hydraulic module of the gearbox (if you are in the mood you can also remove the hydraulic module also and blow air on the holes under it) by doing that you will remove more oil. If you find the hole that goes towards the torque converter the you will push oil out of it
@@aimasira1989 Thank you for this. I understand where you are coming from now.
The new pan bolts are very very light aluminum , to stop corrosion. I suspect alloy for price and the real reason to change them is fatigue.
Thank you
I have a 2017 AMG C63S coupe, does this proceedure work for my car? The things im confused about is if my car has a torque convertor or not, and if so do i need to remove an aux tran oil pump & turn the crank with a wrench to reveal a drain plug to drain oil in the torque convertor. Also, on my car do i also need to remove a return line to flush out remaining fluid in the oil coolers or is that just for older models? I hope you will answer me. Thanks
There is a tool to attach to the filter hole to push new fluid or low pressure air to get all the old fluid out. The valve body alone holds at least 2 quarts
If u only drain the oil pan+torque converter u will drain the full capacity if the gearbox minus one quart, so the valve body with all the plumbing and oil converter holds just less than one quart.
Great video, I am wanting to do this procedure to my 2011 ML300 and did the VIN check, I can't see any indication of option A89 which surprised me as my vehicle of 2011. For my transmission I get the following: "722902 03 130339" does this mean I need to use the older red fluid? Thanks Drew
My Clk Cdi had the ATF changed by MB at 30.000 from new , it has now done 234, 400
The ATF looks quite good so Il just soldier on.
Do you need to have the car running? I just added until the fluid started coming out car was off but im not sure if I need to add more its like the gear shifting isnt perfect its slipping like if I want to add fluid now do I open the drain plug with car on to add?
YES YES YES ive been looking all over I have a 04 SL500 and for some odd reason they said it takes blue I didnt believe it till now thank you so much man video is the best and so far the only lets get him 100000 views all. I do want to ask what is the cheapest blue fluid out there im in Chicago,IL if it helps thanks again dude
There is another method to determine fluid as well, look at the transmission pan from underneath, if it has circles only means red fluid, if it has oval shapes then blue fluid
I wrote u another comment, but youtube decided not to post it .
But let me summarize it.
There are 2 links in the video description, one to input ur VIN number to look for your car build info, if it has code A89 then blue fluid otherwise red.
The other link will give you all available alternate fluids, For blue fluid look for 236.15 specs , for red fluid look for 236.14.
Thanks for your comment
Perfect work!!!!!..
This is great!
The new updated pan works on the older 722.9 & MB recommends switching to that pan and the improved thicker filter but in certain models you still use the red fluid regardless of the pan.
MB states to use red in my ML320 CDI but I am using the new pan, filter, and overflow.
All you need to know is described in the video and the description.
I didn't ask a question I just made a statement but thanks@@TheFlyingMechanicDIY
Excellent
Hello. Very good
This is the best MB tranny tutorial on YT.................
hi, your video is really the best by far ... thank you for your pedagogy! when the engine is running, no need to play with the gear lever (P-R-N-D) like in other videos? thanks again
No need, but if u decided to do it its fine too
I have a 2012 cls63 26k km , had slight jerking on shifts especially on sport mode, dealer checked and it was black and burnt , but not much metal shaving they said and refused to change the oil they said they wont take the risk, so will i damage it if i changed it outside ? Will it get better ? Or worse? Thanks.
Wow this is great video
What kind of quick release coupling did you use? Do you have a link ?
Do I need to shift it through park neutral drive when waiting for fluid to warm up?
what is the size of the rubber o ring on return line? Thanks
Oh, and one more question to add to my earlier comment, if you don't mind? My 2014 w212 transmission has stop/ start, and has an electric pump on the transmission which keeps the oil moving, even when the engine is switched of via Start / Stop. Its not a very difficult job to remove this pump ( 2 bolts ) and then rotate the engine until the TC drain stud becomes visible ..but I was wondering if it would be better just to leave the pump in-situ, and disconnect the coolant return pipe and drain from there, 2 litres X 2 Litres..is there any reason why this would not work ? And it would have the advantage of replacing ALL the trans fluid? Thanks for your input / advice,
Jim,
TC drain will only drain the TC, however removing the return line will make sure all the old fluid from inside the valve body/TC/Cooler and cooler pipes is flushed out and not retuned into the pan .
Hi. Thank you for this awesome video! The only question i have is on the silicone grease. Do you apply it to the bottom side or also to the top and the sides?The reason i ask is that MB document says to ensure the pan and the transmission housing is free from oil and grease. Thank you!
I apply it all around, in such a small amount that it wouldnt cause any issue, its a personal choice, things will be 100% ok without it .
Maybe I missed it but what was the "secret" you mentioned (@ 5:15) about reusing the old pan bolts? Also is there a possible alternative easier to access return line on some models with 722.9 (at radiator perhaps) that could be used rather than the one on right side of trans? (I'm thinking my 06 e350 of course)
Michael S u gota read the video description .. as well, cant tell for ur car, but it should be easier at the side of the transmission
@@TheFlyingMechanicDIY Are you referring to the ATF return line o-rings (2) 0199975845 as the 'secret' o-rings?
AeroRamer .. yes
Thank you so much for taking the time to make this video I watch many time to understand I plane to flush my car have 2012 E 350 4 matic WDDHF8JB5CA522997 how to find out ATF return line. thanks.
Such a calm and informative video, thank you! Is the process and location of bolts on the W211 E320 CDI the same as whats in this video?
All 722.9 are born equal 😂 .. differences are minor differences
@@TheFlyingMechanicDIY Oh! Thanks for that info, I've decided to learn how to fix/service my own car. I've had my E320 CDI from new since 2003 and still running strong. Now it's the project car - hope I don't break it 😂😂 But without the content you produce we wouldn't be able to carry out such tasks with ease, so thanks for your time and content!!
@@pri2578 2003 is a 722.6 by the way, only a year to late.
I have the PDF document "AR27.55-P-0100B Flush out automatic transmission and torque converter 19.7.10" and it shows the return flow pipe on the left. The feed line is on the right. On your video the return was on the right. Is it any way to tell the difference so I can remove the correct line on the GLK350? (It has the 722.9). Thanks.
On the 722.9 it is always on the right side .
U can look up the specific entry for ur car on the MB EPC and it will clearly label the right one as the return pipe ..
note you can only reuse the bolts once, after that they will break
Can i buy the oil filter etc on fcp euro? I have 2012 c300 never done fluid flush before has 118k miles now u recommend doing it? Thanks
So I bought a 550 2008 for my son. Got a diagnosis on it, and it was fine. Was told all it needs is a oil change, brought it to valvoline and ever since it's been running slow like the transmission isn't switching gears fast enough.
Engine oil or transmission ATF ?
@@TheFlyingMechanicDIY Atf
Do you think it could be something as simple as fluid or something more serious.
Usually a code scan should reveal any issue with the transmission, but common untrained mistakes like wrong fluid or improper level are things to be aware of
Wow so good
Wow man...that's how to do a youtube car maintenance video...10/10. Are you based in the UK? I want you to look after my Mercedes.
Thanks for the comment man, unfortunately locTed in Dubai .. cheers
Awesome vid. Used this procedure last night on my 2022 Sprinter. One question on the path of the fluid. I assume that if using this method flushes everything the fluid would need to get pumped from the sump, through the TC, then out the cooler line(left side) through the cooler, back in the return line(right side). Is that correct? Thanks
Yes
Hai, can the rubber pan gasket be reused?
Great video! Well done guys. Just wondering ,why can’t you fill the transmission through the inspection tube ?
Thanks,john
There is no dipstick tube for these transmissions
Yeah Mercedes Wanting it to be harder to do maintenance so they removed it.... super stupid.
Wow..i did not know that when engine is running, transmission oil does not drop down!!
This is a fantastic video!
Does this method also flush out the torque converter?
Not only the torque converter, but the whole valve body, pipes and cooler ..
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ممكن ترجمة للعربية وشكراً لك
العفو اخوي .. هذا من فضل ربي .. المشكلة عندي انه انا تعلمت كل مصطلحات الصيانة باللغة الانجليزية ، ولاحظت انه في كل بلد عربي تختلف اسماء القطع والمصطلحات ومن الصعب علي انه ارضي كل الجمهور العربي فاخترت اللغة الانجليزية لانه مصطلحات الصيانة فيها ثابتة بغض النظر عن الدولة .. ولكن انشالله بالمستقبل ممكن اعيد النظر بالموضوع
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You forgot one thing, Where are you located so I can have you do it. Great video. Dam, i can't afford to ship my car to Jordan. The cost would be to much. lol
Thanks man .. if u r not located within Dubai or Jordan ship it over and will have done for free 🤣 just kidding .. cheers