Whats crazy about alcohol is how socially acceptable the effects of alcohol are. Everyone has an embarrassing story of something they did while being drunk, which they are quite happy to share. Also, imagine if we talked about being strung out on heroin the way we do about getting drunk. Its crazy.
All sober: Beer is great for me, almost daily. Wine occasionally. Liquor rarely. Quality matters. It's not monolith,…. it's the matter of balance. I don't like all beers. It's not just alcohol. I don't like all wines,…. it's not just alcohol. I don't like all liquors,….. it's not just alcohol.
@@bonsummers2657 Beer isn’t as bad for you as whiskey, tequila, vodka etc. However, it’s still an addictive substance, daily use will result in a higher tolerance and chemical dependency. I’d be careful.
@@boboloko Understand silica nutrition from beer, due to the barley and hops,… among other ingredient possibilities. For some people beer can be addictive, but not for all people, even if consumed daily. Quantity matters. Fermented beverages / foods are quality consumables, for quality(good to optimum)('quality' = good to optimum in casual parlance) human health. Just water and other foods, that's not healthy enough for me. I'm healthier with quality beer, in moderation. I drink water too. I drink juices, I drink tea, I don't drink coffee,…. because I find they're distinctly not healthy for me,…. whereas, I find quality beer is highly healthy for me. I rarely have liquor, and just a teaspoon or so is all that I find healthy. Wine is somewhere in between,… occasional,… quality wine, preferably oaked/oak-barreled. I know I do great with beer, not for getting drunk, just caloric good nutrition. 4% to 6% is the good intrinsic alcohol percentage range, normally. Non- pasteurized beer is another key quality factor.
The statistics are pretty sobering (no pun intended). In the US alcohol use is involved in 45% of homicides, 63% of domestic violence incidents so on and so on
Yeah that's great but the Marijuana kids now are smoking it and reeking the whole fucking place while I try to have a family dinner in a restaurant outdoors and you cops can't or won't do anything about it! Now the whole fucking city smells like shit!
@@julumarie no, stoners want to cut people in half with an axe. Weeds make you violent and evil, my brother smonked wheed and it made his arms cut a dog in half with a axe. Weeds are bad and make good people violent
I'm 27 right now and been sober for 9 months. Yeah its crazy that you don't realize what you're doing to yourself until you quit and within quitting you begin to see the bigger picture. Its a classic case of Stockholm syndrome.
I'm from Australia and alcohol is like a protected species over here. It's inbedded in our culture to the point of it can't be held responsible for almost anything. I'm 2 years sober because I didn't want to pass that attitude onto my kids and it's the best thing I have ever done.
Hey mate I'm aussie aswell and it certainly is a big part of our culture, its super hard to quit especially when there is a function happening. Did you do rehab or quit cold turkey
@@abayasugen8446 Hi Mate, I went Cold Turkey but did lots of AA meetings it helped. It's amazing how many people that are out there like us. In AA have met educated people , right down to homeless people and everything inbetween. Hearing everyone's stories helps to stop. It's not for everyone but worked ok for me, it's free and there are meetings everywhere accross Australia, there are also zoom meetings. There are other options too, hardest thing is admitting and accepting you have an issue. Which ever road you take its worth the effort. So much more fun to have without booze. PM me if you like. 👍🏻
Quitting a drug is like breaking up with that toxic partner you were completely in love... they keep popping up in your mind in a positive light and you have to remind yourself of all the harm they caused you.
I had an alcohol problem when I was a teen. Was drunk and alone 24/7 for months straight I could never be so glad that it was short lived. I could’ve died. I can’t imagine how hard it is for people who were addicted for years
Coors has a new commercial, 2 guys are in it. One is making breakfast they just woke up, guess what they drinking with their egg sandwich in the morning. A fucking coors light beer. Wowwwww. Hey guys being an alcoholic is cool!!!!!!
V, that could be pretty funny to show real alcohol involved scenarios. Car crashes, Violence from scumbag parents and alike and maybe some unplanned pregnancies and VD's ?
My older sister made me never want to drink. She was kind of cruel when she was a teen, but once she started drinking, she was the Antichrist. She always abused my parents physically and mentally while drunk. She said and did unforgivable things, especially to our severely disabled father, such as telling him that she would break his back again during an argument or hitting him because he was basically defenseless. (He was the passenger in a terrible car accident which literally shattered his spine when we were kids.) I’m 30 now, I don’t drink and have never taken drugs of any kind. She is a heroin addict and I haven’t talked to her or seen her in over 2 years.
I got blackout drunk when I was a teenager and my younger brother had to take care of me all night. Scared him straight, I've never seen him drink more than one drink on very special occasions. He's the lucky one.
That has almost nothing to do with alcohol, if she was nasty whilst sober alcohol will most likely exacerbate that part of her, but alcohol itself if you are a normal generous person will not make you want to abuse your parents
@@kutze1962 alcohol makes any frustrations and negative emotions so much more intense. People feel these emotions before alcohol, but alcohol will drag people further into that pit of negative emotions until it's all they can feel and see. Thats when the alcohol has ultimately turned them into something far worse than what they ever would have been. The alcohol is to blame ultimately for it Is the cause of the falling better never getting back up. I've seen my best friend of my childhood go from being a bright person with some overt pessimistic tendencies to a very dark extremely negative and at times, very hateful person . I know that would not have happened if it weren't for the 4 liters of vodka he has been drinking almost every week for the past 8 years.
@@Halcyon1997 That could be very true for lots of people but also lots of people don’t turn into aggressive bad people when they’re drunk. I would sometimes get annoyed or angry when drinking vodka but wouldn’t hurt anyone unless they hurt me first
As someone that has overdone alcohol multiple times in the past, i feel like alcohol will stay legal for a long time. I found that it kind of shuts down people. The very few dreams and goals you had, vanish when you get few shots. All of it stops mattering. Then, when addiction kicks in, the only goal in life that stays, is getting enough money just to get fucked up again. So, it will stay legal because it's profitable, even though highly destructive to society in general.
As a smoker, I can give you one big reason why people are more accepting of alcohol over cigarettes. If I'm drinking a beer next to you, you're not going to get second hand drunk.
Ape Beats but there are still a lot of second hand effects of drinking like drunk driving/ other accidents, rape, violence. Society has just not been willing to paint alcohol black like they have cigarettes.
@@GrayShark18 I completely agree with you, but the majority of people dont think about it in that manner. If I light a cigarette in the middle of a crowd, it's an instantaneous affect for everyone in my proximity, whereas if I crack open a beer, no one would really care. I'm just saying it's looked at differently because smoking in public forces people to breathe in that smoke, whereas drinking in public doesn't directly influence the public until a consequence rises from the action of being drunk.
Yeah but the person next to you could get a second hand punch or a second hand glass in the face if they look at you funny. And I don't specifically mean you. I mean the next guy. Alcohol can and does turn people into out of control monsters. You can get in a car and smoke a pack of cigarettes on a journey somewhere. You drink 4 beers you could come off your lane and crash into a bus.. it's not even the same ball park man
@@deanmeat3427 That's my point. You could chug a bottle of liquor and destroy your house all by your lonesome. I'm not defending alcohol. It's a terrible vice that kills thousands of people directly and indirectly. Yes, a drunk person can do something to harm someone just because they're drunk. But in our society, the most you see to dissuade alcohol use are "Drink responsibly" and "Don't drink and drive" ads. Whereas tobacco use is 100% negative these days. I still remember Joe Cool from my childhood. My point, and this is the last time I'm going to make it, is smoking in public directly affects anyone close enough to inhale my smoke. If I get plastered, I have to take an action to harm someone in my drunken state. Yes, they're both terrible. Yes, they both kill. Yes, alcohol is worse simply because it's promoted as a great way to catch a legal buzz. So says a man that smokes half a pack of Marlboro Red 100s daily and on occasion drinks between 1 to 4 ipa brews when the mood is right. Look at me talking shit about vices I indulge. Thank you. Mic drop.
Makes me angry when (heavy drinkers.) Say "I would never touch drugs." I have buried more drinkers than any type of drug user. About time we call them all drugs.
@@bluemountain8110 Hard drinking is bad, but still, some alcohol and cigarettes won't poison you like hard drugs. Not even close. If you overdue it everything will take you out.
@@bman6065 Watch "Train Spotting." The biggest f.up. is Begby. The alcoholic. "I would never put that shite in my body. " just funny to see that (crazy) point of view...makes ya think.
I became an alcoholic at 20 due to trauma, depression, and anxiety. One night I just passed out while standing and fell face first into a thorny bush, nearly lost my sight in my left eye. Made a full recovery luckily. I decided that this was a problem and went cold turkey on my own volition, no intervention by friends and family, just me deciding what‘s best for me when I was at my lowest. I still have a drink from time to time (maybe one every couple months or so), but it was the best decision of my life to quit the habit.
I drank for about six years and it got fairly heavy. Then I went out with friends one night to go drinking and it just wasn’t fun. I decided to take a break and then never wanted to do it again. Was a great decision. Once I quit i became aware of how much it was holding me back
I'm glad that I came across this clip because, after almost a decade, I am finally coming to grips with this fact. Alcohol is just as bad or worse than any other toxic substance you can put in your body. It affects people differently. For some people, one drink can cause cravings for it for the rest of the week. A lot of times people justify these cravings, "this beer is perfect with my wings," or "one drink is basically nothing." It's all because the body is craving it. Some people are fortunate enough to where they can have a drink and not care if they had another for a month. For others, a drink is a slippery slope. I am giving up alcohol because I am tired of looking back at life and wondering what could have been if I were sober. I want to feel better. I want to have deep meaningful relationships. I want to say I've reached my potential. For all of those who are with me on this journey, congratulations. Here's an ice-water toast to all those who have decided to shed the baggage of alcoholism and propel themselves into a higher caliber of human being.
I feel sympathy toward anyone who has a problem with alcohol. It's the most readily accessible vice, and is perceived in culture as a norm. As a recovering heroin addict, I couldn't imagine if my drug of choice was advertised nationally and available at almost every convenience store, restaurant, etc. Props to those who can stay away from it.
It is insidious. I recently quit drinking after noticing I started buying mini bottles of spirits and drinking them in the street before a night out, then having whiskies with my beers, and the increased tolerance and bad irrational behaviour.
I’ve been 2yrs sober.weed aint no joke to me it caused me schizophrenia that still lives with,the sad part is i get jealous of people who have fun while they smoke.
I'm not an "alcoholic" but rather a "normal drinker" by standard terms. I became a nondrinker this year - and it's been a real revelation. It takes months to see what not drinking is like (the effects linger), and how addicted we normal drinkers are. Think about it, most of us can't imagine having a good time going to a party or a game or a show without alcohol. Quitting is crazy, we think alcohol does so much for us, makes things fun, makes us relaxed, and makes us more more social. In reality, that couldn't be farther from the truth. Love my mornings now, and if I really want to treat myself to something, I'll have a little weed. Never going back to alcohol and don't miss it at all.
No it really does make you find things more fun and also makes you feel way more relaxed, its just the morning after that the negative impacts kick in. Dont act like it doesn't do those things.
Always amazes me how all the people who have quite drinking and can now ‘have fun’ and ‘socialise’ without it don’t turn up to parties. I don’t care if you drink, props to you for not and I say the same to my friends who have quit. However, it almost always, makes you fucking boring!
@American Hero I'm gonna have to step in and fart in your face a little bit here. Lots of alcohol vs a little weed are two completely different things and I'm willing to bet you've never had a drinking problem if you think they're even remotely equal.
All sober: Beer is great for me, almost daily. Wine occasionally. Liquor rarely. Quality matters. It's not monolithic,…. it's the matter of balance. I don't like all beers. It's not just alcohol. I don't like all wines,…. it's not just alcohol. I don't like all liquors,….. it's not just alcohol.
my dad drank my entire life. he is / was a very happy drunk, but alcohol is so absolutely destructive. he basically lost his mind in his mid sixties, almost like dementia. drank 120-140 natty ice EVERY week for 50+ years
Manny P same 😂😂😂 always reliving old convos or thinking of random situations that will never happen and having a whole damn speech prepared for nothing 💀💀💀
@Peder Hansen you just ignored his point completely. Sounds like you’re just trying to justify your use of alcohol. Fruits and veg have tons more antioxidants, why don’t you start eating salads? Oh because you’re obsessed with the high you get from scotch whiskey.
I’ve done that more with weed than alcohol. I’m 24, smoked and drank for the first time at 14. Weed stuck with me, I’m fine all these years later and heavy use came in my late teen years. I’m responsible, I have a SHARP memory and I’ve had high grades in life. So overall, way I see it one is the problem when the other isn’t. Any event with alcohol and “good times” I’ve seen devolve in some way. I was a valet, I saw a kid pass out before he got through the doors at a Sweet 16, was SO fucked up that he had to go to the hospital to have his stomach pumped. Yeah “good times”
I just hate when politicians say they just don't want the kids to start doing drugs as the reason why they won't legalize weed... With weed illegal, nobody selling it is asking for ID. Seems backwards. It was easier for me to get weed than the cigar to wrap it in when i was underage
Nah, it's just a cultural thing. Europeans have been producing alcoholic beverages for ever. It is engrained in our cultural tissue. Pot isn't, yet it is in muslim countries, where alcohol consumption is illegal. Both aren't healthy by any stretch of the immagination, yet cultures do work like that.
That's how I got addicted. Cheaper than cigars, gave a nice head rush. Smoked a couple days thinking "oh, well I'm not addicted so I must be a different case" then bam, felt like I needed them a week or so later.
Spent all my time schooling my son about drugs, and what they do and which ones can control you. Not even thinking about alcohol. I just never thought about it. I've done every drug I can get, so I wanted to give him reasons not to. I said weed ain't bad, but it can be a gateway if something else is around. Long story short, his mom and stepdad drank with him at 18. Thinking it was okay cause he was at home, that's the dumbest shit. It just makes kids feel safer to drink anywhere. My son died at 19 drunk driving. Fuck Alcohol, it the worst drug!
They say drugs and alcohol because alcohol is in a league of its own! I Lost my job my family and myself to alcohol! When I gave up alcohol and decided to get healthy I hit the gym and lost 100 pounds in five months. I got everything back that I wanted in my life plus more with sobriety Now I’m not into meetings or AA I got clean and sober through exercise and eating healthier. But I’ll say do whatever works for you! now I’m going on five years sober and I’ll never look back!
congrats man for real. i personally struggle with it to this day but i consistently try to stay sober. 1 day drunk 2 days sober 2 days drunk 1 day sober shit like that
Sobriety from weed and replacing it with drinking ruined my life, destroyed my savings, and made me have the outlook "One more day closer to death". Sobriety from Alcohol, and having weed instead and my life couldn't be getting better. I got my certifications, got a solid job, and finally have had time to properly develop myself as a person thanks to the introspection weed provides. I'll be moving in with my first partner this fall, and can't even recognize the person I was when drinking. Fuck Alcohol, literal poison to body and mind.
"This, for me, is the saddest thing about smoking: the only ‘enjoyment’ a smoker gets from a cigarette is temporary relief from the discomfort created by the previous one." Allen Carr's Easyway (He makes the similar point about drinking in his Easyway to stop drinking book)
Yo thank your very much Joe for stating that paranoia is just showing us how vulnerable we are. I had a bad trip and was feeling very paranoid for quite a while. I needed to hear that, that basically rebooted myself and made me realize just keep it pushing everything’s going to be okay 😊
The issue with booze is that it is so simple to make from the most basic things to the point that it does sometimes happen naturally. It has been around for so long.
@@Trafficcoordinator If it was all about taxes, they'd make drugs legal and tax those. Alcohol being acceptable and fashionable predates alcohol taxes by several centuries.
@@Trafficcoordinator Back before the US and moonshine was even a thing, mead was drank like water. The water would kill you. Goes back to medieval times.
@@tylerhughes2136 that's what I said didn't I. You should be calling one person here idiot, if you have to call anyone names. You could just make your point without being rude.
I’ve just gotta say, I’ve used, abused and quit every drug on the planet from alcohol to meth to fentanyl and I’ve never been able to quit smoking cigarettes. If you have a chance to avoid nicotine by all means do because it’s the hardest drug to kick.
I don’t get the needy feeling to do weed but I’m still recovering from alcohol and the needy feeling keeps coming up but I don’t let it get me and this video really explains the damaging effects that aren’t talked about so often about alcohol
I do not have smoking addiction but have seen people around me struggle to quit. And quitting, as I observe, is a personal journey. And not everyone quits in the same way or for the same reasons. But I always give great admiration to those who have. And for those who still struggle I let them know what a difficult journey they are on and no matter how many times they may fall it is still achievable and not be so hard on themselves.
Chl0rr Rs Lol I love the rush but it kinda makes me feel like shit afterwards. I have been hitting nicotine from all possible sources for a year now and still have never spent a single penny on it.
13 months without a drop for me today. Not gonna lie my brain still tries tricking me into thinking I miss it. But then seeing other people hammered reminds me I really don’t.
Stay off it i went completely alcohol free last year, had a few beers in january and decided now to give it up for good drinking alcohol is pointless for me now!
I’m an alcoholic. I appreciate Joe being cognizant of people like me when discussing alcohol. Not to say he shouldn’t say he enjoys it. But in a world where alcohol is glorified, pretty much everywhere, it’s nice that he at least thinks about people like me before speaking on it.
I just finished my last beer...thankfully...I think ahead and buy a bottle of scotch. I know I am in the spiral...the outcome is literally unthinkable compared to right fucking now.
Matt Rousseau so is sugar. Edit: This simple statement has drawn a lot of criticism, I would encourage everyone to continue scrolling through and read the interesting debate between @Ajcook7777 and @Custo I am not a medical expert and only repeated what I thought to be correct. In case you are looking for something interesting to learn. I looked up ‘what is a drug’ read a few papers then I looked up sugar or more broadly ose suffix like glucose fructose and their history, fructose and the human body. Interesting stuff, obviously as I stated. I am not a medical professional and would rather not spread fake information. Look it up yourselves!
Smoking pot can make you very paranoid, I experienced it and quit smoking pot 6 years ago. Both my best friends experienced the same and never touched the stuff again.
It can definitely happen, but it depends on the person. 2 of my friends get paranoid when they smoke weed now, but 2 of my other friends have been smoking since 2016 and don't feel any negative effects while high. I've also smoked since 2016 and I can still smoke it.
same, did very little of it as a youngster, ALL the time I got EXTREME paranoia and i quickly realised I had to stop because it was just awful. I saw nothing, i felt nothing good. Just headaches and FEAR. I remember one female youngster said she saw pink elephants. I never saw jack shit. I'm so glad I didnt. This paranoia we got, it saved us.
I can't wait for societies to finally acknowledge that alcohol is drugs. Especially the ones that have social drinking culture that shame people not participating.
Went into a liquor store drinking a can of monster. I bought a crate of Bud, 20 Marlboro light and I put the can of monster on the table and the shop assistant points to the monster and says "you know that's bad for you right?"
@@1mmarker energy drinks definitely are bad for you, so is coffee. but mostly anything is fine if you are able to do it every so often instead of making it a habit
Joe doesn't have a problem with pot but is stoning every single day. That's literary an addiction. Also he has a 2 decade addiction to steroids. I personally am addicted to nicotine, started really late, never fully quit. Don't smoke it's not worth it.
@Tom 1592009 yeah. As a smoker (which I hate to say) the only time you might get a head rush is your first cigarette in the morning. That’s the only time a regular smoker might get that head rush
I drink far too much alcohol and have cut back a lot recently. I really love the experiences of being drunk and normally have a fairly good control of myself, but the withdrawals the day after can be awful- massive anxiety, racing heartbeat and blood pressure through the roof. I can't stand pot however. It is the opposite of a social drug for me. I get crazy paranoia (about things that aren't real threats- like I'm going to stop breathing, or something terrible is going to happen to me), my brain works super slow and I don't feel like talking. I've had it a few times where it's kind of like I'm looking at the world through a TV screen. I like cigarettes if I'm stressed out and it really calms me if I'm worked up about something, but rarely smoke for the last 10 or so years.
Holy crap you just nailed it for me. i get on that pink cloud for a few hours, and then the cold sweats, the shaking, the anxiety.... I was prescribed Keppra for the seizures after my last one, but unless I go to the ER again, I'm gonna have to take a lot of days off to see a neurologist, who costs a lot more than a regular doc, which is something I can't afford. At least for me, explaining the situation to your job helps. Unless they are complete dicks, they will let you go to detox and keep your job.
Wow everything reacts to everyone different. As an a aid everyday weed smoker (blunts) man, wow. Btw I’ll have a drink (sweet drinks) but I’m not a drinker. Iont like the way it makes me feel or what it can do to people.
A lot of people say weed is not for them because of paranoia. A lot of the weed that is out now is not the same potentcy people were smoking in the 70s/ 80s and early 90s. Growers focus on creating the strongest possible strains because most of the buyers are chronic smokers with high tolerance. There are low thc high cbd strains also there are two main types of weed. Indica relaxes your muscles and makes you feel sleepy while sativa keeps you energized and stimulated creative activity it is not just due to body chemistry. Would people consider mid strain in the cannabis community because they do not get them as high as really just regular weed. Canna tonic , sour tsnumai , tangelo flow are some good strains for beginners
It’s a terrible feeling living with alcoholic parents/parent. Living with the daily fact that it will kill them and despite all you do, it’s not enough. Constantly not being yourself or comfortable because you have to walk on the edge of a explosion. And the worst is seeing them sick. I hope everyone suffering from addiction finds their sobriety.
You know that marijuana addiction is NOTHING compared to alcohol addiction, right? Alcohol is GABAergic. This class of drugs is the most addicting one. Alcohol is one of the few drugs where stopping cold turkey in some cases leads to DEATH. Can never happen with Cannabis. The withdrawal symptoms of alcohol are insane. Cannabis withdrawal usually is NOTHING compared to this, maybe dysphoria and insomnia for a few days. (I'm not saying Cannabis addiction is good, no addiction is good!) Also, (chronic) alcohol consumption poses some big risks for the human body, unlike Cannabis. If I had to choose between those two addictions, guess what, I'll take Cannabis, the one that doesn't kill you. This shouldn't even be a debate...
@@3-methylindole730 marijuana was the first drug addiction I ever had . And it wasn't pretty . Not too long after that I quit marijuana and became addicted to alcohol . Sure it's worse to be a drunk than a pothead but why be either one ? Why not stand out from the crowd and dare to be different and give up alcohol , cigarettes AND marijuana ? I've been addicted to all THREE and I qujt them . Almost 16 years Straight Edge right here . The same curiosity that leads you to try those things in the first place is the same kind of curiosity that leads you to wonder what life would be like WITHOUT those things .....And marijuana withdrawal was no party at all . Even started hearing voices at times .....Very strange indeed .....
The reason alcohol is more accepted than weed is because alcohol doesn’t make you think. They know that if the people start thinking it will be very dangerous for the establishment
I smoked half a pack a day from 13-24. Switched to vapes 24-26 and took my last nicotine hit walking into my dad's funeral. It's been a year so far and I will NEVER go back. You CAN do it!
@Julian Lopez You're right buddy. I didn't think I'd have to clarify, but I was referring to cigarettes. Half a pack (10 cigarettes) per day. You're crazy, I've been leaving bud alone for a bit but max I used to consume ~.8g wax or ~2g flower per day 😂
I smoked Newport 100’s for 12 years before I was able to finally kick em when I was 25. It’s been almost 12 years now and I can truly say I never think about smoking tobacco at all. It was and is still the hardest thing I’ve ever done.
I’m only 14, my dad was a heavy drinker and alchohol took him from me last month. Don’t drink alchohol please and if you know anyone addicted please try to get them to stop before it’s too late, my dad really was fine and had no medical issues until his unknown cerebral aneurysm ruptured.
Lost my both parents to alcohol. My mom when I was 23, my dad when I was 36. I'm expecting my first kid later this year and the lost potential is devastating.
May I ask what exactly they died from (a certain organ failure or something else) ? & I’m so sorry to hear this 😔 but happy to hear you have a child that’s good news
@@ABa-ve3ul (Sorry for my poor language, English is not my native language.) My mom drank during my whole life and I became aware as I grew up, resulting in many problem along the years. At some point she had a bleeding in her stomach, took some medication for that (don't know exactly what) and went into a coma (as the medication went straight into her bloodstream because of the wounds in her stomach and her body (liver/kidneys ?) was not able to efficiently get it out of her bloodstream). When she got out of the coma, she lost her memory for some time and quit alcohol. After quiting alcohol she went downhill over the course of a couple of months, loosing a lot of weight and basically her body started failing. She died soon after because of her liver failing. I was already out of the house back then trying to figure out how to set up my life, and this whole episode is kind of a blur tbh. I never got to say goodbye. My dad died more recently. After years of alcohol abuse in our teens, he quit alcohol entirely until some years prior to his death. He moved to the middle of nowhere about 15 years before that, isolating himself from the rest of the family. He was very independend and kind of a loner. No real friends or anything. We visited him from time to time. After he broke up with his girlfriend of 15+ years (he moved in the region because of her) he was incredibly lonely and unable to adapt or move somewhere else (he was already 75). He started drinking to cope I guess. By the time we found out he was already drinking a bottle of whisky a day and having tremors and shakes if he didn't drink. We dried to offer him as much support as possible but at some point we found him on the floor. He must have fallen, maybe hit his head and he passed away. we found him 2 days later. The coroner estimated natural causes, so no further exemination was done to investigate specific causes.
I appreciate Malcolm for raising the issue of college campuses and their relationships with the alcohol industry. You can bet any college campus will be careful about opioids. Will there be opioid ads in college newspapers? Certainly not. But will they apply the same careful thought to alcohol advertisements, another addictive substance?
While I don't know if I would go as far as to say that they are "good" for you (I'm well aware of the possible positive impact on people with PTSD and depression, however I wouldn't put that under the the same category of "good"as any nutritious. Because, let's face it, there are people out there that should not take psychedelics due to various forms of psychosis,etc. But I certainly wouldn't say that it's "bad" for you. More legitimate clinical research just needs to be performed in a non-biased setting
I have noticed that the paranoia or anxiety with pot is related to intense thoughts coming at you , and it being a bit hard to process. That can provoke anxiety . I never thought about, but I agree with Joe that a lot of those thoughts do stem from our vulnerability or the fragility of life itself. I recently started using marihuana again after decades of non use (not used since early adulthood) and i am enjoying it. Use it not regularly but I like it for the thought processes it invokes mainly.
I take care of a 70yo alcoholic. He lost his wife (cancer) and son (murdered) within a year. Literally drinking himself to death, has a bad memory and can hardly walk because of the alcohol abuse. It's sad but I understand why he does it.
Weed gives me social anxiety but I love it in solitude, I actually enjoy weed a lot more alone than with other people even tho most times I don’t mind it
Its definitely different for everybody, but I believe it's all in the first time, and gender. I don't know what it is but from what I've experienced is that men like weed much more than alcohol, whereas with women they tend to like alcohol more than weed, of course im not saying they don't, but i know plenty who would pass on a joint or bong rip but be all in for a shot or three
@@BigBootySeeker2 I've noticed that too and I think it has to do with legality and stigma. I think females tend to abide by laws more and be turned off by bad stigmas such as the whole "weed is a bad drug that makes you lazy" crap. I think men don't care as much about that.
I am the same way at this point in my life, when I was younger, it didn't affect me like that. I smoked everyday for 6 years or so, when I quit for a year and started back, it just was never the same.
I am a strong willed person. I quit alcohol cold turkey. I diet down like that's the way I always eat. It's hard for me to accept that people struggle quitting bad habits but that just seems to be my superpower.
I lost my brother to alcohol and my father to cancer most likely cigarettes and chewing tobacco. I've quite cigs for 3 years now and alcohol for 5 years. Both pretty much destroyed my family.
My dad and brothers were addicted to it, belonged to a clique who constantly smoked because it is a social gathering but never started it, i knew or im convinced once i start, i wont stop
Fiend Archive oh really despite it essentially being a diuretic by inhibiting ADH? How does that make sense? And in order to be “clean” it would have to be rather high in alcohol content.
@@medicah It's more about the culture built around alcohol. In ancient times, wine was the foundation of the Roman empire because it crudely cleaned water. It's also the blood of Christ, so many members of the clergy often made wine. Also, every culture that has existed has made a way to conduct alcoholic fermentation. It's very difficult to separate something so easy to make from humans.
Mom died from cancer and vodka at the same time. I was 14 and she died in my hands. I never drank my entire life, I'm 33 now. I literally hate people who tries to put their problems away using alcohol, more so who make other people addicted to it.
@@colbey79 so what? what does that have to do with what I said? should I not love the honesty b/c he has been successful? Are you saying money prevents lying? you sound ike you are dealing with a lot of feelings of guilt/resentment.
@@colbey79 not defending the celebrity...defending my statement...you didn't answer my question and are still a bitter-bitch ...and we all are ignorant of more than that which we know...if you can't recognize that, then you are lost.
I'm Irish large amounts of alcohol consumption is the norm but it causes the most problems .weed is taboo and illegal here .that's a problem because we can only smoke the weed we can get there's no choice of strengths and strains most people only have access to what ever there dealer is selling .I smoke alot I can tell you that makes a huge difference .I have a good tolerance but some of my friends who are casual smokers can't cope with what I smoke.
Quitting is easy...done it hundreds of times
Lol stolen.
Mark Twain
No you havnt
I quit smoking everyday for about 8 hours untill i wake up
I’ve seen this joke hundred of times
Saying “drugs and alcohol” is like saying “public transport and buses”.
Just say DRUGS!
Fucking Bingo.
amen
@@dickass5910 bruh
Smells like teen Hitler?
Straight up big facts dude
Whats crazy about alcohol is how socially acceptable the effects of alcohol are. Everyone has an embarrassing story of something they did while being drunk, which they are quite happy to share. Also, imagine if we talked about being strung out on heroin the way we do about getting drunk. Its crazy.
All sober: Beer is great for me, almost daily. Wine occasionally. Liquor rarely. Quality matters. It's not monolith,…. it's the matter of balance. I don't like all beers. It's not just alcohol. I don't like all wines,…. it's not just alcohol. I don't like all liquors,….. it's not just alcohol.
@@bonsummers2657 Beer isn’t as bad for you as whiskey, tequila, vodka etc. However, it’s still an addictive substance, daily use will result in a higher tolerance and chemical dependency. I’d be careful.
@@boboloko Understand silica nutrition from beer, due to the barley and hops,… among other ingredient possibilities. For some people beer can be addictive, but not for all people, even if consumed daily. Quantity matters. Fermented beverages / foods are quality consumables, for quality(good to optimum)('quality' = good to optimum in casual parlance) human health. Just water and other foods, that's not healthy enough for me. I'm healthier with quality beer, in moderation. I drink water too. I drink juices, I drink tea, I don't drink coffee,…. because I find they're distinctly not healthy for me,…. whereas, I find quality beer is highly healthy for me. I rarely have liquor, and just a teaspoon or so is all that I find healthy. Wine is somewhere in between,… occasional,… quality wine, preferably oaked/oak-barreled. I know I do great with beer, not for getting drunk, just caloric good nutrition. 4% to 6% is the good intrinsic alcohol percentage range, normally. Non- pasteurized beer is another key quality factor.
How many ppl wake up in jail with the cops saying "you know what you did last night?" due to alcohol?
This is why I stopped drinking and went to crack
nice
My man!
Congrats, my man. Keep it up.
Your comment made me want to give you an, “I’d like to thank” award. Then I realized, this isn’t Reddit.
Proud of you
I've spent almost 20 years in Law Enforcement and Security, I've hardly ever fought with a stoner but I've fought with LOTS of drunks.
The statistics are pretty sobering (no pun intended). In the US alcohol use is involved in 45% of homicides, 63% of domestic violence incidents so on and so on
@@jackedkerouac4414 alcohol is also the drug most correlated with suicide
Yeah that's great but the Marijuana kids now are smoking it and reeking the whole fucking place while I try to have a family dinner in a restaurant outdoors and you cops can't or won't do anything about it! Now the whole fucking city smells like shit!
Stoners just wanna chill and eat pizza
@@julumarie no, stoners want to cut people in half with an axe. Weeds make you violent and evil, my brother smonked wheed and it made his arms cut a dog in half with a axe. Weeds are bad and make good people violent
46 years old, quit drinking alcohol at 27, after 10 years of what I now realize, was a drinking problem. Best thing I've ever done for myself.
I'm 27 right now and been sober for 9 months. Yeah its crazy that you don't realize what you're doing to yourself until you quit and within quitting you begin to see the bigger picture. Its a classic case of Stockholm syndrome.
That’s great. Congratulations
Congrats
@@JacksonOfTheJerry it just gets worse.
28 Now
Teetotal for nearly 5 years!
I'm from Australia and alcohol is like a protected species over here. It's inbedded in our culture to the point of it can't be held responsible for almost anything. I'm 2 years sober because I didn't want to pass that attitude onto my kids and it's the best thing I have ever done.
Hey mate I'm aussie aswell and it certainly is a big part of our culture, its super hard to quit especially when there is a function happening. Did you do rehab or quit cold turkey
@@abayasugen8446 Hi Mate, I went Cold Turkey but did lots of AA meetings it helped.
It's amazing how many people that are out there like us. In AA have met educated people , right down to homeless people and everything inbetween. Hearing everyone's stories helps to stop. It's not for everyone but worked ok for me, it's free and there are meetings everywhere accross Australia, there are also zoom meetings.
There are other options too, hardest thing is admitting and accepting you have an issue.
Which ever road you take its worth the effort. So much more fun to have without booze.
PM me if you like. 👍🏻
Awesome, go you! Nearly three months sober
Not in Alice, but yeah it's big in the culture
@@timengle4965 keep it up!
I finally quit smoking cigarettes this year.. been cigarette free since jan 1 2020, cant believe i didn't stop way sooner.
Glad to hear so! Keep at it bro
Agreed and same here.
Try crack
@@militaryjunkie6207 sounds like a riot, I'll def look into it!
I eat them instead now.
Quitting a drug is like breaking up with that toxic partner you were completely in love... they keep popping up in your mind in a positive light and you have to remind yourself of all the harm they caused you.
So freaking true
That hit different because of the relationship part not the drugs. My bm is like that and I suffer to this day with her.
@@princejayyy532 The deeper the roots go the harder it will become to take out the plant.
Damn...this is probably the best analogy I've ever heard.
@@gregsmith7949 thanks
I had an alcohol problem when I was a teen. Was drunk and alone 24/7 for months straight I could never be so glad that it was short lived. I could’ve died. I can’t imagine how hard it is for people who were addicted for years
The most destructive. The worst decisions I’ve ever made was when drinking alcohol.
Here’s a fact. People will never stop doing drugs
Facts 😂
I dont do drugs
We got the workforce an life an yes people love getting high
@@marcusj1167
A drug is a chemical (nutrition is usually excluded) that has physiologic effects on your body.
@@marcusj1167 so you've never taken an aspirin?
Imagine if alcohol commercials showed the aftermath of drinking...
I highly agree. Pun intended. lol
😂
Coors has a new commercial, 2 guys are in it. One is making breakfast they just woke up, guess what they drinking with their egg sandwich in the morning. A fucking coors light beer. Wowwwww. Hey guys being an alcoholic is cool!!!!!!
We have but its not endorsed or funded by Brewing Companies.
V, that could be pretty funny to show real alcohol involved scenarios. Car crashes, Violence from scumbag parents and alike and maybe some unplanned pregnancies and VD's ?
My older sister made me never want to drink. She was kind of cruel when she was a teen, but once she started drinking, she was the Antichrist. She always abused my parents physically and mentally while drunk. She said and did unforgivable things, especially to our severely disabled father, such as telling him that she would break his back again during an argument or hitting him because he was basically defenseless. (He was the passenger in a terrible car accident which literally shattered his spine when we were kids.)
I’m 30 now, I don’t drink and have never taken drugs of any kind. She is a heroin addict and I haven’t talked to her or seen her in over 2 years.
I am so sorry… youve done a very brave thing, cutting off. I wish you strength
I got blackout drunk when I was a teenager and my younger brother had to take care of me all night. Scared him straight, I've never seen him drink more than one drink on very special occasions. He's the lucky one.
That has almost nothing to do with alcohol, if she was nasty whilst sober alcohol will most likely exacerbate that part of her, but alcohol itself if you are a normal generous person will not make you want to abuse your parents
@@kutze1962 alcohol makes any frustrations and negative emotions so much more intense. People feel these emotions before alcohol, but alcohol will drag people further into that pit of negative emotions until it's all they can feel and see. Thats when the alcohol has ultimately turned them into something far worse than what they ever would have been. The alcohol is to blame ultimately for it Is the cause of the falling better never getting back up. I've seen my best friend of my childhood go from being a bright person with some overt pessimistic tendencies to a very dark extremely negative and at times, very hateful person . I know that would not have happened if it weren't for the 4 liters of vodka he has been drinking almost every week for the past 8 years.
@@Halcyon1997 That could be very true for lots of people but also lots of people don’t turn into aggressive bad people when they’re drunk. I would sometimes get annoyed or angry when drinking vodka but wouldn’t hurt anyone unless they hurt me first
As someone that has overdone alcohol multiple times in the past, i feel like alcohol will stay legal for a long time. I found that it kind of shuts down people. The very few dreams and goals you had, vanish when you get few shots. All of it stops mattering. Then, when addiction kicks in, the only goal in life that stays, is getting enough money just to get fucked up again. So, it will stay legal because it's profitable, even though highly destructive to society in general.
As a smoker, I can give you one big reason why people are more accepting of alcohol over cigarettes. If I'm drinking a beer next to you, you're not going to get second hand drunk.
Ape Beats but there are still a lot of second hand effects of drinking like drunk driving/ other accidents, rape, violence. Society has just not been willing to paint alcohol black like they have cigarettes.
@@GrayShark18 I completely agree with you, but the majority of people dont think about it in that manner. If I light a cigarette in the middle of a crowd, it's an instantaneous affect for everyone in my proximity, whereas if I crack open a beer, no one would really care. I'm just saying it's looked at differently because smoking in public forces people to breathe in that smoke, whereas drinking in public doesn't directly influence the public until a consequence rises from the action of being drunk.
Ape Beats that makes sense, it’s more immediately apparent.
Yeah but the person next to you could get a second hand punch or a second hand glass in the face if they look at you funny. And I don't specifically mean you. I mean the next guy. Alcohol can and does turn people into out of control monsters. You can get in a car and smoke a pack of cigarettes on a journey somewhere. You drink 4 beers you could come off your lane and crash into a bus.. it's not even the same ball park man
@@deanmeat3427 That's my point. You could chug a bottle of liquor and destroy your house all by your lonesome. I'm not defending alcohol. It's a terrible vice that kills thousands of people directly and indirectly. Yes, a drunk person can do something to harm someone just because they're drunk. But in our society, the most you see to dissuade alcohol use are "Drink responsibly" and "Don't drink and drive" ads. Whereas tobacco use is 100% negative these days. I still remember Joe Cool from my childhood. My point, and this is the last time I'm going to make it, is smoking in public directly affects anyone close enough to inhale my smoke. If I get plastered, I have to take an action to harm someone in my drunken state. Yes, they're both terrible. Yes, they both kill. Yes, alcohol is worse simply because it's promoted as a great way to catch a legal buzz. So says a man that smokes half a pack of Marlboro Red 100s daily and on occasion drinks between 1 to 4 ipa brews when the mood is right. Look at me talking shit about vices I indulge. Thank you. Mic drop.
Makes me angry when (heavy drinkers.) Say "I would never touch drugs." I have buried more drinkers than any type of drug user. About time we call them all drugs.
@@bluemountain8110 Hard drinking is bad, but still, some alcohol and cigarettes won't poison you like hard drugs. Not even close. If you overdue it everything will take you out.
@@David-nu6kw mate moderation is key with everything
As a heavy drinker I don't know many other drinkers who don't do other drugs. Different shapes of different social circles I guess
@@bman6065 Watch "Train Spotting." The biggest f.up. is Begby. The alcoholic. "I would never put that shite in my body. " just funny to see that (crazy) point of view...makes ya think.
@@bman6065 To some people it's just never enough. Stick to the green.
I became an alcoholic at 20 due to trauma, depression, and anxiety. One night I just passed out while standing and fell face first into a thorny bush, nearly lost my sight in my left eye. Made a full recovery luckily. I decided that this was a problem and went cold turkey on my own volition, no intervention by friends and family, just me deciding what‘s best for me when I was at my lowest. I still have a drink from time to time (maybe one every couple months or so), but it was the best decision of my life to quit the habit.
I drank for about six years and it got fairly heavy. Then I went out with friends one night to go drinking and it just wasn’t fun. I decided to take a break and then never wanted to do it again. Was a great decision. Once I quit i became aware of how much it was holding me back
I would advice to stay away from it, even if its just one every couple of months. Its very easy to fall in the trap again.
I'm glad that I came across this clip because, after almost a decade, I am finally coming to grips with this fact. Alcohol is just as bad or worse than any other toxic substance you can put in your body. It affects people differently. For some people, one drink can cause cravings for it for the rest of the week. A lot of times people justify these cravings, "this beer is perfect with my wings," or "one drink is basically nothing." It's all because the body is craving it. Some people are fortunate enough to where they can have a drink and not care if they had another for a month. For others, a drink is a slippery slope.
I am giving up alcohol because I am tired of looking back at life and wondering what could have been if I were sober. I want to feel better. I want to have deep meaningful relationships. I want to say I've reached my potential. For all of those who are with me on this journey, congratulations. Here's an ice-water toast to all those who have decided to shed the baggage of alcoholism and propel themselves into a higher caliber of human being.
Word.
I feel sympathy toward anyone who has a problem with alcohol. It's the most readily accessible vice, and is perceived in culture as a norm. As a recovering heroin addict, I couldn't imagine if my drug of choice was advertised nationally and available at almost every convenience store, restaurant, etc. Props to those who can stay away from it.
Porn is even more accessible and induces a greater dopamine response but I see what you mean
100% well said.
It is insidious. I recently quit drinking after noticing I started buying mini bottles of spirits and drinking them in the street before a night out, then having whiskies with my beers, and the increased tolerance and bad irrational behaviour.
What sucks, is when it's the only drug you enjoy and you can function with it.
@@Thulgore I mean most other drugs are the same dog.
I've been 4yrs sober so far. Alcohol ain't no joke. Turned my whole life around
that’s awesome man
I am proud of you!
Heck yes bro
God I love alcohol, I don’t think I should watch this
I’ve been 2yrs sober.weed aint no joke to me it caused me schizophrenia that still lives with,the sad part is i get jealous of people who have fun while they smoke.
I'm not an "alcoholic" but rather a "normal drinker" by standard terms. I became a nondrinker this year - and it's been a real revelation. It takes months to see what not drinking is like (the effects linger), and how addicted we normal drinkers are. Think about it, most of us can't imagine having a good time going to a party or a game or a show without alcohol.
Quitting is crazy, we think alcohol does so much for us, makes things fun, makes us relaxed, and makes us more more social. In reality, that couldn't be farther from the truth.
Love my mornings now, and if I really want to treat myself to something, I'll have a little weed. Never going back to alcohol and don't miss it at all.
No it really does make you find things more fun and also makes you feel way more relaxed, its just the morning after that the negative impacts kick in. Dont act like it doesn't do those things.
Always amazes me how all the people who have quite drinking and can now ‘have fun’ and ‘socialise’ without it don’t turn up to parties.
I don’t care if you drink, props to you for not and I say the same to my friends who have quit. However, it almost always, makes you fucking boring!
I wasn't able to have a good time and be social before I turned 21. There's a reason I was so depressed as a teenager.
Love this comment. just turned 20 but i’m 3 months dry. Only weed and shrooms for me now and I don’t plan on going back
@American Hero I'm gonna have to step in and fart in your face a little bit here. Lots of alcohol vs a little weed are two completely different things and I'm willing to bet you've never had a drinking problem if you think they're even remotely equal.
Alcohol is a fuel. Imagine drinking gasoline.
always funny how we constantly get commercials demonizing cigarettes then the next commercial we have chicks in bikinis on the beach promoting vodka
Project862006 YOU GOT A PROBLEM WITH BIKINIS AND BREWS?
So true.
That good tax revenue
Cigarettes should be demonized
@@andrewmasters5573 Yes... Yes we do. Fuck these Hoes.
You can tell Joe is not a cigarette smoker because he doesn't know that the head rush goes away once you start doing it regularly.
Just like with coffee. Another legal drug.
Rafael : yes! Coffee is so strong! Don’t do it for several month and then have it- crazy strong effect!
Caffeine! Big time drug
@Caleb Huskey Placebo. I can't trust you, felt nothing with a cup of dark roast. get som decaf
lmao coffee is not a fucking drug pop some percs and compare that to coffee
Why does alcohol get a pass ? Because it’s taxed just like cancer causing cigarettes
All sober: Beer is great for me, almost daily. Wine occasionally. Liquor rarely. Quality matters. It's not monolithic,…. it's the matter of balance. I don't like all beers. It's not just alcohol. I don't like all wines,…. it's not just alcohol. I don't like all liquors,….. it's not just alcohol.
my dad drank my entire life. he is / was a very happy drunk, but alcohol is so absolutely destructive. he basically lost his mind in his mid sixties, almost like dementia. drank 120-140 natty ice EVERY week for 50+ years
THERE ARE ONLY SEVEN DAYS IN A WEEK. HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?
Abuse is one thing. Moderation with anything good, is another.
Joe rogan definitely talks to himself in the shower.
Wait do people really do that?? cause I do and I thought it was just me. (and no, I’m not kidding unfortunately)
I do🤷♂️
Manny P dang, I can relate
I do to 🤷🏻♂️
Manny P same 😂😂😂 always reliving old convos or thinking of random situations that will never happen and having a whole damn speech prepared for nothing 💀💀💀
Alcohol destroys lives. If my husband had been sober he would still be alive.
Im sorry for your loss. Wish you the best
Sorry for your loss. I hope you have many dream invitations 💜💙💙
I wrote that as "destroys livers" not wrong
Sorry for your loss
@Peder Hansen you just ignored his point completely. Sounds like you’re just trying to justify your use of alcohol. Fruits and veg have tons more antioxidants, why don’t you start eating salads? Oh because you’re obsessed with the high you get from scotch whiskey.
Booze has been strategically married to "good times," attracting the opposite sex and celebrations; the psychology is powerful
I’ve done that more with weed than alcohol. I’m 24, smoked and drank for the first time at 14. Weed stuck with me, I’m fine all these years later and heavy use came in my late teen years. I’m responsible, I have a SHARP memory and I’ve had high grades in life. So overall, way I see it one is the problem when the other isn’t. Any event with alcohol and “good times” I’ve seen devolve in some way. I was a valet, I saw a kid pass out before he got through the doors at a Sweet 16, was SO fucked up that he had to go to the hospital to have his stomach pumped. Yeah “good times”
I absolutely love Malcolm actively listening to Rogan. Rare that a guest does not speak over the interviewer.
Agreed. It's mutual respect imo. Joe definitely will shut up and listen. But, get Neil deGrasse Tyson on your podcast.....
Joe talks over his guests all the time, let's be real
Prohibition failed. That's why alcohol gets a pass.
War on Drugs has failed.
I just hate when politicians say they just don't want the kids to start doing drugs as the reason why they won't legalize weed... With weed illegal, nobody selling it is asking for ID. Seems backwards. It was easier for me to get weed than the cigar to wrap it in when i was underage
You could run your model T ford on alcohol. One acre of corn could power your car for a year. Prohibition was brought on by big oil, a war on stills.
Alcohol has been ingrained into society that you can't change it. Fermentation of alcohol has been around for around 10,000 years
Nah, it's just a cultural thing. Europeans have been producing alcoholic beverages for ever. It is engrained in our cultural tissue. Pot isn't, yet it is in muslim countries, where alcohol consumption is illegal. Both aren't healthy by any stretch of the immagination, yet cultures do work like that.
The head high stops pretty quick and then it's just an addiction.
James Sutton facts
That's how I got addicted. Cheaper than cigars, gave a nice head rush. Smoked a couple days thinking "oh, well I'm not addicted so I must be a different case" then bam, felt like I needed them a week or so later.
FAKTUALITEEZ....u also lose dat cool menthol feeln .....
Not for me
Depends on the person
Most, if not all, of the mistakes I’ve made and regrets I have are directly related to alcohol use.
A government can not professionally look at a drug like alcohol and legalise the production, sale and consumption of it without a degree of malice.
Spent all my time schooling my son about drugs, and what they do and which ones can control you. Not even thinking about alcohol. I just never thought about it. I've done every drug I can get, so I wanted to give him reasons not to. I said weed ain't bad, but it can be a gateway if something else is around. Long story short, his mom and stepdad drank with him at 18. Thinking it was okay cause he was at home, that's the dumbest shit. It just makes kids feel safer to drink anywhere. My son died at 19 drunk driving. Fuck Alcohol, it the worst drug!
Feels wrong even liking this comment
Sorry for ur loss and fuck alcohol to hell
Fuck, so sorry for you. That's the worst thing that could happen, hope you're better now
420 all the way man bring back prohibition this killing me
Sorry for your loss. So true, alcohol is as bad as cocaine if not worse
Whoa…I’m so sorry! 😢
They say drugs and alcohol because alcohol is in a league of its own!
I Lost my job my family and myself to alcohol!
When I gave up alcohol and decided to get healthy I hit the gym and lost 100 pounds in five months.
I got everything back that I wanted in my life plus more with sobriety
Now I’m not into meetings or AA I got clean and sober through exercise and eating healthier. But I’ll say do whatever works for you!
now I’m going on five years sober and I’ll never look back!
congrats man for real. i personally struggle with it to this day but i consistently try to stay sober. 1 day drunk 2 days sober 2 days drunk 1 day sober shit like that
Fuck yeah man
I wish I had that will power. I would go months sober and fall back
I think it's important for me to show the world that sobriety hasn't made me soft. I'm on a mission to prove I'm still a nutcase.
~Steve-O~
Amen brother....Smoke bud,ban alcohol!!
Sobriety from weed and replacing it with drinking ruined my life, destroyed my savings, and made me have the outlook "One more day closer to death".
Sobriety from Alcohol, and having weed instead and my life couldn't be getting better. I got my certifications, got a solid job, and finally have had time to properly develop myself as a person thanks to the introspection weed provides. I'll be moving in with my first partner this fall, and can't even recognize the person I was when drinking.
Fuck Alcohol, literal poison to body and mind.
as a former bartender… alcohol is the most insidious . deadly. poison.
it is bad but Zyklon b is worse..U know history chica?
The answer is simple: We live in a completely backward-ass society where very little actually makes sense.
Salvador Dali dropped acid and created a country.
@@billytheweasel LOL...and, maybe it was bad acid. As a longtime fan of Dali, the art he created makes more sense than the good ole US of A.
Real shit
😂
You are right.
"This, for me, is the saddest thing about smoking: the only ‘enjoyment’ a smoker gets from a cigarette is temporary relief from the discomfort created by the previous one."
Allen Carr's Easyway
(He makes the similar point about drinking in his Easyway to stop drinking book)
Johnnie, you're a good boy!
Amazing book.
Quit drinking a year ago after reading it
Have you watched Nikki Glaser talk about the book on Joe Rogans podcast?
@@richt3993 thats what got me to buy the book and it worked like a miracle for me as well
@@johnburn872 Fantastic news brother!!!!
Yo thank your very much Joe for stating that paranoia is just showing us how vulnerable we are. I had a bad trip and was feeling very paranoid for quite a while. I needed to hear that, that basically rebooted myself and made me realize just keep it pushing everything’s going to be okay 😊
If alcohol were to be invented tommorrow, it immediately would be scheduled by the DEA.
They already tried to ban it, didn't go down well.
They definetly would, even more so if it came in the form of a pill
Same with sugar, salt, tobacco and weed though
@@dtho6231 thats because it was already a solid part of our culture. If it was created tomorrow, it would be banned, and it would stay banned.
You're wong. That would never happen.🤣
Nothing worse than a friend who "doesn't smoke" but keeps bumming cigarettes off you to avoid buying a pack...
Sounds like everyone in the army trying to quit.
Ah the people who love to smoke OPs..... other peoples.
For real! I get it though. Non smokers love smoking more than smokers when they're drunk
They are the worst
No kidding. Particularly out at a bar or club.
Worst thing about alcohol is that it makes some people violent.
The issue with booze is that it is so simple to make from the most basic things to the point that it does sometimes happen naturally. It has been around for so long.
I think alcohol is a throwback to a time when water wasn’t safe to drink.
Nope. It's all because if taxes. Why else would they make weed legal in most states. Tax money. That's why the irs agents go after moonshiners
@@Trafficcoordinator If it was all about taxes, they'd make drugs legal and tax those. Alcohol being acceptable and fashionable predates alcohol taxes by several centuries.
@@Trafficcoordinator Back before the US and moonshine was even a thing, mead was drank like water. The water would kill you. Goes back to medieval times.
Alcohol began because not all water is safe...
@@tylerhughes2136 that's what I said didn't I. You should be calling one person here idiot, if you have to call anyone names. You could just make your point without being rude.
Drunk in boston sounds like an early 2000s indie rock band
Pie Chart - sounds like an Irish punk band
Pie Chart or an early 2000s romantic comedy
Punk in Drublic
Is that a dropkick Murphy's song?
100% early 2000’s Irish influenced punk band aka Dropkick Fuckin Murphys
I’ve just gotta say, I’ve used, abused and quit every drug on the planet from alcohol to meth to fentanyl and I’ve never been able to quit smoking cigarettes. If you have a chance to avoid nicotine by all means do because it’s the hardest drug to kick.
I don’t get the needy feeling to do weed but I’m still recovering from alcohol and the needy feeling keeps coming up but I don’t let it get me and this video really explains the damaging effects that aren’t talked about so often about alcohol
There was a Jack Daniels advertisement over this.
"When ya look into it..."
Gus Bus drinking a pint of jd will definitely do that to you 😂
Gus Bus tough times mate!! Hangovers really suck. It’s what keeps me away from it tbh. But I do other very stupid things, so hey ho 😂
Gentlemen jack is better
You still have ads from CZcams? Lol
No one ever said, " I really turned my life around when I started drinking."
No, but I heard many say, " I really turned my life upside down when I started drinking."
@@josephhernandez9428 i almost got stabbed when i was drunk.. i know im lucky he still a bitch tho.. but im getting of it fuck that shit
stevewilldoit
@@vadya1120 I do not understand what you're saying. I'm drunk, but I don't think that matters. WTF you saying? Who is Steve?
The same can be said for literally any other non life essential activity. You may as well give up movies.
I do not have smoking addiction but have seen people around me struggle to quit. And quitting, as I observe, is a personal journey. And not everyone quits in the same way or for the same reasons. But I always give great admiration to those who have. And for those who still struggle I let them know what a difficult journey they are on and no matter how many times they may fall it is still achievable and not be so hard on themselves.
watch anyone who quits a drug, they're always still smoking
Apart from a few binges in my teenage years I never was a heavy drinker, recently stopped alcohol completely and I don't miss it one bit.
Yeah, that nicotine "head rush" is something you experience the first few times. Smokers don't actually get that.
you can get it everytime if you wait long enough in between
I started smoking because of that head rush. I don't feel anything now yet I keep smoking. Filthy habit
Chl0rr Rs Lol I love the rush but it kinda makes me feel like shit afterwards. I have been hitting nicotine from all possible sources for a year now and still have never spent a single penny on it.
That’s because their ”nicotine receptors” (don’t know the actual word) are maxed out and if they wait they will get the buzz again.
Lol how tf you get a head rush from a cigarette its like 4-10mg max
13 months without a drop for me today. Not gonna lie my brain still tries tricking me into thinking I miss it. But then seeing other people hammered reminds me I really don’t.
Stay off it i went completely alcohol free last year, had a few beers in january and decided now to give it up for good drinking alcohol is pointless for me now!
@@rory644 Good stuff brother, all the best
Being around drunk people when you’re sober is terrible
Just beer and i use it as a post workout in the sauna to replenish lactic acid.
Gonna hit two months soon, most days aren’t that bad but some days I feel like I miss it but I’m sticking it through
I left alcohol for cannabis. No regrets.
I’m an alcoholic. I appreciate Joe being cognizant of people like me when discussing alcohol. Not to say he shouldn’t say he enjoys it. But in a world where alcohol is glorified, pretty much everywhere, it’s nice that he at least thinks about people like me before speaking on it.
Fancy going for a beer? It's on me.
I just finished my last beer...thankfully...I think ahead and buy a bottle of scotch. I know I am in the spiral...the outcome is literally unthinkable compared to right fucking now.
How's the drinking going did u quit yet
You can do it. You can quit. Stay strong
@@gasexotic8823 I am drunk as fuck right now....wish I could get more....but I am sure as shit not driving....so passing out is the only option.
Alchohol isn't even thought of as a drug, but it is!!
I read this as if Mark Normand was saying it for some reason.
From the UNITED KINGDOM KSI
The effect of decades of reffering to drugs as "drugs and alcohol"
Matt Rousseau so is sugar.
Edit: This simple statement has drawn a lot of criticism, I would encourage everyone to continue scrolling through and read the interesting debate between @Ajcook7777 and @Custo I am not a medical expert and only repeated what I thought to be correct. In case you are looking for something interesting to learn. I looked up ‘what is a drug’ read a few papers then I looked up sugar or more broadly ose suffix like glucose fructose and their history, fructose and the human body. Interesting stuff, obviously as I stated. I am not a medical professional and would rather not spread fake information. Look it up yourselves!
Neither is caffeine in coffee and other drinks.
Smoking pot can make you very paranoid, I experienced it and quit smoking pot 6 years ago. Both my best friends experienced the same and never touched the stuff again.
It can definitely happen, but it depends on the person. 2 of my friends get paranoid when they smoke weed now, but 2 of my other friends have been smoking since 2016 and don't feel any negative effects while high. I've also smoked since 2016 and I can still smoke it.
same, did very little of it as a youngster, ALL the time I got EXTREME paranoia and i quickly realised I had to stop because it was just awful. I saw nothing, i felt nothing good. Just headaches and FEAR. I remember one female youngster said she saw pink elephants. I never saw jack shit. I'm so glad I didnt. This paranoia we got, it saved us.
The Malcolm Gladwell discussions are always the best.
I can't wait for societies to finally acknowledge that alcohol is drugs. Especially the ones that have social drinking culture that shame people not participating.
By societies do you mean countries? If so, which?
@@darthgamer6080 New Zealand for 1
@@darthgamer6080 and China
@@darthgamer6080 North America & Europe. Especially Europe, they'll treat you like a freak & outcast.
@@darthgamer6080 Netherlands and Germany
Went into a liquor store drinking a can of monster. I bought a crate of Bud, 20 Marlboro light and I put the can of monster on the table and the shop assistant points to the monster and says "you know that's bad for you right?"
nice
It shows how manipulated our perceptions are by the manufacturers of vices.
Energy drinks aren’t bad for you the same people who say stuff like that are the same ones who have a bunch of cups a coffee a day
@@1mmarker energy drinks definitely are bad for you, so is coffee. but mostly anything is fine if you are able to do it every so often instead of making it a habit
@@matttejada7381 nail on the head
Joe doesn't have a problem with pot but is stoning every single day. That's literary an addiction. Also he has a 2 decade addiction to steroids. I personally am addicted to nicotine, started really late, never fully quit. Don't smoke it's not worth it.
Quit drinking at the age 35. So happy to do it now before I pissed my health away.
Sugar is a drug too. It meets all of the requirements for that classification.
Very true. This truth will not be spoken of
I can't quit sugar
Except it has some nutritional value.
dconsmack except you need it to live
@@josueh5831 There are no essential carbohydrates. You do not need sugar to live. If you don't consume any glucose (sugar) your body will make it.
Regular cigarette smokers don't get that headrush anymore, Joe.
Just FYI.
@Tom 1592009 yeah. As a smoker (which I hate to say) the only time you might get a head rush is your first cigarette in the morning. That’s the only time a regular smoker might get that head rush
@@jebence yeah i only get it in the morning
@@jebence I get it in the morning too, brain off for 10 mins, I call it my second sleep
@@namesurname624 I know exactly what you are talking about. Seriously some of the best sleep when your buzzing
No head Rush. But you're keeping your dopamine artificially elevated.
A rush you cant feel because you're always submerged in it.
I drink far too much alcohol and have cut back a lot recently. I really love the experiences of being drunk and normally have a fairly good control of myself, but the withdrawals the day after can be awful- massive anxiety, racing heartbeat and blood pressure through the roof. I can't stand pot however. It is the opposite of a social drug for me. I get crazy paranoia (about things that aren't real threats- like I'm going to stop breathing, or something terrible is going to happen to me), my brain works super slow and I don't feel like talking. I've had it a few times where it's kind of like I'm looking at the world through a TV screen. I like cigarettes if I'm stressed out and it really calms me if I'm worked up about something, but rarely smoke for the last 10 or so years.
I agree. I love a drink, but the scary anxiety the next day is getting to the point it’s not worth the fun of drinking
Holy crap you just nailed it for me. i get on that pink cloud for a few hours, and then the cold sweats, the shaking, the anxiety.... I was prescribed Keppra for the seizures after my last one, but unless I go to the ER again, I'm gonna have to take a lot of days off to see a neurologist, who costs a lot more than a regular doc, which is something I can't afford. At least for me, explaining the situation to your job helps. Unless they are complete dicks, they will let you go to detox and keep your job.
Watch "friends" when you're stoned. It's a trip, it's not funny but it's so bad
Wow everything reacts to everyone different. As an a aid everyday weed smoker (blunts) man, wow. Btw I’ll have a drink (sweet drinks) but I’m not a drinker. Iont like the way it makes me feel or what it can do to people.
A lot of people say weed is not for them because of paranoia. A lot of the weed that is out now is not the same potentcy people were smoking in the 70s/ 80s and early 90s. Growers focus on creating the strongest possible strains because most of the buyers are chronic smokers with high tolerance. There are low thc high cbd strains also there are two main types of weed. Indica relaxes your muscles and makes you feel sleepy while sativa keeps you energized and stimulated creative activity it is not just due to body chemistry. Would people consider mid strain in the cannabis community because they do not get them as high as really just regular weed. Canna tonic , sour tsnumai , tangelo flow are some good strains for beginners
Only good thing alcohol gave me was that extra bit of courage to talk to a girl that latter became my gf
It’s a terrible feeling living with alcoholic parents/parent. Living with the daily fact that it will kill them and despite all you do, it’s not enough. Constantly not being yourself or comfortable because you have to walk on the edge of a explosion. And the worst is seeing them sick. I hope everyone suffering from addiction finds their sobriety.
You mean like marijuana addiction , cannibis king ?
You want people to find their sobriety from marijuana addiction too or only SOME drug addictions like alcohol addiction ?
You know that marijuana addiction is NOTHING compared to alcohol addiction, right? Alcohol is GABAergic. This class of drugs is the most addicting one. Alcohol is one of the few drugs where stopping cold turkey in some cases leads to DEATH. Can never happen with Cannabis. The withdrawal symptoms of alcohol are insane. Cannabis withdrawal usually is NOTHING compared to this, maybe dysphoria and insomnia for a few days. (I'm not saying Cannabis addiction is good, no addiction is good!) Also, (chronic) alcohol consumption poses some big risks for the human body, unlike Cannabis. If I had to choose between those two addictions, guess what, I'll take Cannabis, the one that doesn't kill you. This shouldn't even be a debate...
Again, Cannabis addiction is BAD.
@@3-methylindole730 marijuana was the first drug addiction I ever had . And it wasn't pretty . Not too long after that I quit marijuana and became addicted to alcohol . Sure it's worse to be a drunk than a pothead but why be either one ? Why not stand out from the crowd and dare to be different and give up alcohol , cigarettes AND marijuana ? I've been addicted to all THREE and I qujt them . Almost 16 years Straight Edge right here . The same curiosity that leads you to try those things in the first place is the same kind of curiosity that leads you to wonder what life would be like WITHOUT those things .....And marijuana withdrawal was no party at all . Even started hearing voices at times .....Very strange indeed .....
Joe "I like having a drink of wine with a glass of wine" Rogan
"Personally, I just like to observe my wine from afar" - Hipsters
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..."I've smoked a cigarette or two."
..."I don't think you learn much from cigarettes."
The reason alcohol is more accepted than weed is because alcohol doesn’t make you think. They know that if the people start thinking it will be very dangerous for the establishment
I smoked half a pack a day from 13-24. Switched to vapes 24-26 and took my last nicotine hit walking into my dad's funeral. It's been a year so far and I will NEVER go back. You CAN do it!
@Julian Lopez You're right buddy. I didn't think I'd have to clarify, but I was referring to cigarettes. Half a pack (10 cigarettes) per day. You're crazy, I've been leaving bud alone for a bit but max I used to consume ~.8g wax or ~2g flower per day 😂
Question, Have you noticed aging in the skin? from smoking
@@turtlej25 👌
I smoked Newport 100’s for 12 years before I was able to finally kick em when I was 25. It’s been almost 12 years now and I can truly say I never think about smoking tobacco at all. It was and is still the hardest thing I’ve ever done.
Have you smoked cigarettes at all lately?
I’m only 14, my dad was a heavy drinker and alchohol took him from me last month. Don’t drink alchohol please and if you know anyone addicted please try to get them to stop before it’s too late, my dad really was fine and had no medical issues until his unknown cerebral aneurysm ruptured.
4k Angel I’m sorry man
That’s the reason I’ll never drink so many people in my family have died from alcoholism it’s terrible I’m so sorry for your loss
cheers!
May he rest in peace. There's a reason why so many people sober up, they know the dangers of heavy drinking.
4k Angel Sincerest condolences man. Hope you and your family are doing okay :/
As someone who deals with social anxiety and depression, when smoking weed, I can actually feel like myself, no filters or anxiousness.
My list goes:
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Cigarettes
Alcohol
Weed
100000% lmao I love reading youtube comments all day
Jim one zero of 1 million percent
You have become the very thing you swore to destroy
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@@TheBananamonger - Never forgotten. Show respect my man. He was murdered.
Lost my both parents to alcohol. My mom when I was 23, my dad when I was 36. I'm expecting my first kid later this year and the lost potential is devastating.
I'm really sorry to hear that. Congratulations on your kid
Sorry for your loss 🥺
May I ask what exactly they died from (a certain organ failure or something else) ? & I’m so sorry to hear this 😔 but happy to hear you have a child that’s good news
@@ABa-ve3ul (Sorry for my poor language, English is not my native language.)
My mom drank during my whole life and I became aware as I grew up, resulting in many problem along the years. At some point she had a bleeding in her stomach, took some medication for that (don't know exactly what) and went into a coma (as the medication went straight into her bloodstream because of the wounds in her stomach and her body (liver/kidneys ?) was not able to efficiently get it out of her bloodstream). When she got out of the coma, she lost her memory for some time and quit alcohol. After quiting alcohol she went downhill over the course of a couple of months, loosing a lot of weight and basically her body started failing. She died soon after because of her liver failing. I was already out of the house back then trying to figure out how to set up my life, and this whole episode is kind of a blur tbh. I never got to say goodbye.
My dad died more recently. After years of alcohol abuse in our teens, he quit alcohol entirely until some years prior to his death. He moved to the middle of nowhere about 15 years before that, isolating himself from the rest of the family. He was very independend and kind of a loner. No real friends or anything. We visited him from time to time. After he broke up with his girlfriend of 15+ years (he moved in the region because of her) he was incredibly lonely and unable to adapt or move somewhere else (he was already 75). He started drinking to cope I guess. By the time we found out he was already drinking a bottle of whisky a day and having tremors and shakes if he didn't drink. We dried to offer him as much support as possible but at some point we found him on the floor. He must have fallen, maybe hit his head and he passed away. we found him 2 days later. The coroner estimated natural causes, so no further exemination was done to investigate specific causes.
it is what is
I appreciate Malcolm for raising the issue of college campuses and their relationships with the alcohol industry. You can bet any college campus will be careful about opioids. Will there be opioid ads in college newspapers? Certainly not. But will they apply the same careful thought to alcohol advertisements, another addictive substance?
Alcohol really is heavily destructiveness 😢
Saying drugs and alcohol is like saying fruit and oranges
Straight up
Facts bro
You can still compare
“Saying drugs and alcohol is like saying fruit and oranges” - dillongarner1
it's like saying dillon's dad and fat gay pornstars
Joe "I smoked alcohol once" Rogan
The LA Beast did that once.
It’s actually worse than drinking it.
Joe "mushrooms, not cigarettes" Rogan
And drank some pot ???
Well he is right in some way haha
People don’t understand just how terrible alcohol addiction is.
I can’t have a sip of alcohol without my body completely shutting down. I’m beyond surprised this is a legal substance
I hope anyone reading this and myself can be truly delivered from alcohol
The nicotine rush disappears when u become a smoker
It's what keeps people doing it, like any drug
you chase the high till you can’t reach it
Michael Roake morning buzz
@@ChevyChase301 best cig of the day
Right it just becomes the thing that relieves all stress
Joe “I think mushrooms are good for you” Rogan
Read this just as he said it lol
It's the best tho.
I agree with joe
They are with responsible use.
While I don't know if I would go as far as to say that they are "good" for you (I'm well aware of the possible positive impact on people with PTSD and depression, however I wouldn't put that under the the same category of "good"as any nutritious. Because, let's face it, there are people out there that should not take psychedelics due to various forms of psychosis,etc. But I certainly wouldn't say that it's "bad" for you. More legitimate clinical research just needs to be performed in a non-biased setting
I have noticed that the paranoia or anxiety with pot is related to intense thoughts coming at you , and it being a bit hard to process. That can provoke anxiety . I never thought about, but I agree with Joe that a lot of those thoughts do stem from our vulnerability or the fragility of life itself. I recently started using marihuana again after decades of non use (not used since early adulthood) and i am enjoying it. Use it not regularly but I like it for the thought processes it invokes mainly.
I take care of a 70yo alcoholic. He lost his wife (cancer) and son (murdered) within a year. Literally drinking himself to death, has a bad memory and can hardly walk because of the alcohol abuse. It's sad but I understand why he does it.
Weed gives me social anxiety but I love it in solitude, I actually enjoy weed a lot more alone than with other people even tho most times I don’t mind it
Same
Its definitely different for everybody, but I believe it's all in the first time, and gender. I don't know what it is but from what I've experienced is that men like weed much more than alcohol, whereas with women they tend to like alcohol more than weed, of course im not saying they don't, but i know plenty who would pass on a joint or bong rip but be all in for a shot or three
@@BigBootySeeker2 I've noticed that too and I think it has to do with legality and stigma. I think females tend to abide by laws more and be turned off by bad stigmas such as the whole "weed is a bad drug that makes you lazy" crap. I think men don't care as much about that.
Same
I am the same way at this point in my life, when I was younger, it didn't affect me like that. I smoked everyday for 6 years or so, when I quit for a year and started back, it just was never the same.
Joe "i like to have a drink of wine with a glass of wine" rogan
I read that as he said it 😂
@@dioltlw3144 same I scrolled at the exact moment he said it. Wtf?
Him and Joe Swanson share something in common
Lmao bro I read that as he said it, hahahaha
Joo
EVERYONE SHOULD EXPERIENCE MUSHROOMS AT LEAST ONCE IN THEIR LIFE.
I am a strong willed person. I quit alcohol cold turkey. I diet down like that's the way I always eat. It's hard for me to accept that people struggle quitting bad habits but that just seems to be my superpower.
People are not trying IMO. They gave their power away.
I lost my brother to alcohol and my father to cancer most likely cigarettes and chewing tobacco. I've quite cigs for 3 years now and alcohol for 5 years. Both pretty much destroyed my family.
My dad and brothers were addicted to it, belonged to a clique who constantly smoked because it is a social gathering but never started it, i knew or im convinced once i start, i wont stop
It gets a pass because for centuries it was literally one of the cleanest things we could drink
Good man right on the mark. When science figures out its origin maybe some of them string theorist will get on to who newtons gravity was with
Fiend Archive oh really despite it essentially being a diuretic by inhibiting ADH? How does that make sense? And in order to be “clean” it would have to be rather high in alcohol content.
@@medicah It's more about the culture built around alcohol. In ancient times, wine was the foundation of the Roman empire because it crudely cleaned water. It's also the blood of Christ, so many members of the clergy often made wine. Also, every culture that has existed has made a way to conduct alcoholic fermentation. It's very difficult to separate something so easy to make from humans.
@@medicah it was cleaner than water. In the 17th century they drank beer like we do water.
Yeeeeah...I don't think that's the reason...lol. That's the reasoning of an alcoholic...lol.
In the UK it’s still way more frowned upon to smoke weed than cigarettes. It’s insane
Mom died from cancer and vodka at the same time. I was 14 and she died in my hands. I never drank my entire life, I'm 33 now. I literally hate people who tries to put their problems away using alcohol, more so who make other people addicted to it.
It is crazy to me how normal it is to drink where I live. I can’t find anyone who just doesn’t drink or do drugs. It’s sickening
u shouldn’t give a duck
Where are you from?
Leave ASAP
@@vibinwpsilocybin1424 yeah, empathy is overrated.
Sickening? Calm down.
I love joe's honesty...with himself and his guests/audience.
@@colbey79 so what? what does that have to do with what I said? should I not love the honesty b/c he has been successful? Are you saying money prevents lying? you sound ike you are dealing with a lot of feelings of guilt/resentment.
@@colbey79 not defending the celebrity...defending my statement...you didn't answer my question and are still a bitter-bitch ...and we all are ignorant of more than that which we know...if you can't recognize that, then you are lost.
I'm Irish large amounts of alcohol consumption is the norm but it causes the most problems .weed is taboo and illegal here .that's a problem because we can only smoke the weed we can get there's no choice of strengths and strains most people only have access to what ever there dealer is selling .I smoke alot I can tell you that makes a huge difference .I have a good tolerance but some of my friends who are casual smokers can't cope with what I smoke.
Joe is