Great video. But trust me, having a dual router + a network switch has the LEAST hassling configuration out of all of the suggestions you have mentioned. It is also the most BANG FOR YOUR BUCK option in terms of the number of ethernet port each router has. As a comparison, the best mesh router with the most ethernet ports such as Asus ZenWifi has 3 lan ports each (amounting to up to S$600 upwards for two easily ) . While a modern Asus router has at least 4 on each. (at S$183 x2)
sorry could you educate me abit more on this? Question 1: If a modern Asus router has 4 LAN ports, it can function as a network switch and I won't need a switch right? (assuming that 4 LAN ports is adequate) Question 2: please correct my understanding: FTP -> ONT -> Router -> DB box -> other parts of the house nodes (or additional routers) -> LAN cables from nodes (or additional routers) to PC/TV etc
1) Depends on what your setup is, you may not even need a switch. 2) The initial ones is usually FTP to ONT to Router. If you want to follow my setup, it's router's lan ports to the patch panel in the db box. Then linked to other devices including another router. Original comment is correct. 2 router config is the most value for money. But people around me feel that pure mesh is simpler to setup.
great video as an introduction to home network setup! As most mesh wifi router only has 2 lan ports, can I know if its possible to connect the router in the DB box to a lan splitter then connect to more ports (ie, D1, D2, D3...)?
Thank you for the informative video! Simplified for noobs. Question tho, when setting up wired mesh , you mentioned need to connect the mesh to db box then to modem. However in my modem, only one port is enabled. The other LAN ports are disabled. How is it setup? Do we need to get Lan splitter?
@@SherBooga Thank you for the quick reply! Not exactly sure how it was disabled, Starhub technician mentioned it's disabled and the LAN ports don't light up.
Hi my current house is using 2 router. if i walk out from main bedroom to living room, if I'm taking a WhatsApp call, the line will break., Because I will lose WIFI signal while waiting to connect to the living router. Will this happen to mesh network as well? cause it's the same thing from main bedroom node to living node. thanks
Thanks for sharing! Regarding Mesh 2nd solution (12:50), May I ask if there is a difference in performance if I connect LAN Splitter directly to D4, then connect to all three devices from the LAN splitter? ( 2 computers and 1 mesh) Thanks
Go carousel buy from others a cheap router usually given free by ISP. Disable its wireless radio and set up in the DB box. Connect it to the 6 lan points. Using two lan points, 1 in the living rm, 1 in MBR. Set up wireless AP. With this set up, my gaming pc is running on lan in my MBR thru the wall lan point. My StarHub box is also via lan from the wall point. And I also have strong 5ghz wifi throughout the flat, 700-800mbps
Total cost abt 600. Advantage of this over mesh is that I get strong wired connection to my gaming pc and my StarHub box, which I absolutely cannot afford lags
Hi great video! For a 4 room bto layout, but with most walls knocked down such that there is only one large living/dining room + one larger master bedroom, would it better with 2 mesh nodes (1 in the db box and 1 in the master bedroom) or better than with 1 router in the db box (say, ASUS RT-AX3000 with more ports) and 1 mesh node in the master bedroom? Assuming the mesh nodes are all via wired backhaul
I think it really depends on whether you require the Ethernet ports or you're just purely using WiFi. I think both setups you mentioned are similar, but the biggest difference is probably the lack of ports. I think if you are mostly using WiFi, then you can go for 2 mesh nodes and if you really need the ethernet ports, you can get a network switch later on to supplement.
@@SherBooga Thanks for the reply! Is there any downside to using the router in the db box instead of a mesh mode, besides cost? Because adding a supplement network switch in the future will cost some $ as well
The wireless signal will be similarly affected since they are impeded by the db door. However because of the lack of ethernet ports, you may or may not be able to connect to all patch panel ports (D1-D6) to provide ethernet access to all rooms. Typically a mesh node only has about 2-3 ports and with one already being used by the modem, you're only left with limited ports for the other rooms. So if I were in your shoes, I will put the router here. The other room could have the mesh node if you don't need ports. However, as most mesh nodes come in 2-3packs, unless you have an extra mesh node lying around.
Thanks for sharing and this is really great and simplified enough to understand. However is it also okay to place the node at the TV console instead of inside the DB box?
Thanks! If your layout is the same as mine, then no unless you only have one node or you are using wireless backhaul. Assuming you have the modem in the db box, it has to connect to one of the nodes. So it goes to the D1-D6 thing and you connect it to the living room node. You'll have to find a way to connect to the next node from the main node somehow, which is via wireless backhaul unless you run LAN trunking to wherever else you want.
@@SherBooga hi, thanks a lot for the series, I have better understanding about home wifi setup. Do you know if the patch panel (the D1-D6 thing) can be installed at other part of the flat, or must it be connected to db box? My flat is an older resale (20 years old). The fiber termination point is at 1 corner of the living room. The db box is attached at the wall near the entrance, not in a cabinet like in newer bto. I'm interested to set a mesh wifi with wired connect for the 2nd node and I'd like to hide the cable as much as possible. If I can't install a patch panel next to fnp, is there a use of getting lan port in the bedrooms? At the moment, there is none. And I don't want visible messy cable running across my home.
You should be able to get a contractor specialising in networking to advise you based on your current ONT, space, and other considerations. If alls accounted for, you should be able to get the patch panel installed in other parts of the house
I know this is 1 year ago, for the wired mesh. Let's say without ethernet splitter in the study room. can 1 PC used lan, the other tap wireless to the mesh?
Can we use the network switch with the DB box instead of the study? Modem>Mesh Router>Network Switch>D1-D6? And then have a Mesh Router at every room. Does it work that way?
great content, quick question, can i use the lan splitter directly from the modem (ONT) to connect to D1 to D6? or is must from ONT to Router, then router to the various points at the DB box? Thanks for the help!
It has to be ont - router first because router will assign the ip and forward the data to the rest of the devices. If you want to know more, you can search for how dhcp works!
Hi bro. If I put my AX-3000P in my db box and connect it to D5, then D5 to Mesh Router (Asus XD5) in Mbrm, can it work? Then rely on the AX-3000P for wifi in living rm
Oh, then I don't think possible unless you ask someone to extend the cable back to the db box or the study. This was why my router is placed in the db box as well even though it is not an ideal spot.
Hey bro, would you think if i place my ASUS RT-AX3000 WiFi-6 on main living room for a 4 RM BTO , would that be suffcient for the whole house? Most of the time is mobile phone and wifi.
From my own experience with my AX3000 I'd say you'll have no issues for the most part, until you reach the mbr or mbr toilet in the case of the layout shown in the video. Could be a temporary solution until you get another device to use the AiMesh technology later on.
Don't think it would. Modem should be connected to a main router which will handle the disbursement of data. So the other nodes will have to be connected to the main router
Each room should already have direct ethernet connection from the D1-D6 shown, do you mean to increase the number of direct ethernet connections in each room? If that's so, yes it's possible.
Don't need to. Depending on how you set it up, you can put one of the nodes in the study with the Ethernet cable from the modem to patch panel, then patch panel to study. But the downside is that you may need to see how you are going to connect the other nodes
The ONT or ONR "translates" the fibre optic signals to a signal that the rest of your devices understand, so it is not possible with the standard devices we have.
Highly doubt that it would work since the ONTs leased by the ISPs are usually only compatible with their own signals. I believe only superinternet allowed you to terminate the fibre optic signals using your own compatible sfp+ router but I don't think they are giving residential plans anymore. I may be wrong, please contact your ISP to ask for more info.
Excellent video! Easy to understand and detailed explanation! Thanks! 😊
almost going with the dual routers set up. looks like the mesh set up worth exploring. thanks for the ideas bruh!
Glad you found it helpful! Dual routers or router plus wireless ap could be one of the more robust setup if you take the time to configure.
you can also put a switch connected to the first router, and from that switch can connect to multiple db connections to other rooms.
I was wondering also, how come you didn't suggest this for the mesh network, won't it solve the eternet port shortage?
Great video. But trust me, having a dual router + a network switch has the LEAST hassling configuration out of all of the suggestions you have mentioned. It is also the most BANG FOR YOUR BUCK option in terms of the number of ethernet port each router has. As a comparison, the best mesh router with the most ethernet ports such as Asus ZenWifi has 3 lan ports each (amounting to up to S$600 upwards for two easily ) . While a modern Asus router has at least 4 on each. (at S$183 x2)
sorry could you educate me abit more on this?
Question 1:
If a modern Asus router has 4 LAN ports, it can function as a network switch and I won't need a switch right? (assuming that 4 LAN ports is adequate)
Question 2:
please correct my understanding: FTP -> ONT -> Router -> DB box -> other parts of the house nodes (or additional routers) -> LAN cables from nodes (or additional routers) to PC/TV etc
1) Depends on what your setup is, you may not even need a switch.
2) The initial ones is usually FTP to ONT to Router. If you want to follow my setup, it's router's lan ports to the patch panel in the db box. Then linked to other devices including another router.
Original comment is correct. 2 router config is the most value for money. But people around me feel that pure mesh is simpler to setup.
@@SherBooga Thanks!
Great content, exactly what I thought of and your video reinforced my research 👍
Glad it helped!
Most of us face the same problem with dead spots in living room but we don't have LAN wires from living room to master room.
great video as an introduction to home network setup! As most mesh wifi router only has 2 lan ports, can I know if its possible to connect the router in the DB box to a lan splitter then connect to more ports (ie, D1, D2, D3...)?
Yes it is possible but maybe sometimes it's cheaper to just get a mesh router with more ports instead. Do check the prices out
Thank you for the informative video! Simplified for noobs. Question tho, when setting up wired mesh , you mentioned need to connect the mesh to db box then to modem. However in my modem, only one port is enabled. The other LAN ports are disabled. How is it setup? Do we need to get Lan splitter?
Was it disabled due to a setting? I can imagine if they have the physical ports, you'll be able to enable them.
@@SherBooga Thank you for the quick reply! Not exactly sure how it was disabled, Starhub technician mentioned it's disabled and the LAN ports don't light up.
Hi my current house is using 2 router. if i walk out from main bedroom to living room, if I'm taking a WhatsApp call, the line will break., Because I will lose WIFI signal while waiting to connect to the living router. Will this happen to mesh network as well? cause it's the same thing from main bedroom node to living node. thanks
Thanks for sharing!
Regarding Mesh 2nd solution (12:50),
May I ask if there is a difference in performance if I connect LAN Splitter directly to D4, then connect to all three devices from the LAN splitter? ( 2 computers and 1 mesh)
Thanks
If your network switch is rated for Gigabit speed, it should be fine for the most part.
Go carousel buy from others a cheap router usually given free by ISP. Disable its wireless radio and set up in the DB box. Connect it to the 6 lan points.
Using two lan points, 1 in the living rm, 1 in MBR. Set up wireless AP.
With this set up, my gaming pc is running on lan in my MBR thru the wall lan point. My StarHub box is also via lan from the wall point.
And I also have strong 5ghz wifi throughout the flat, 700-800mbps
Total cost abt 600.
Advantage of this over mesh is that I get strong wired connection to my gaming pc and my StarHub box, which I absolutely cannot afford lags
Yup, this is another way to achieve stable Internet around the house.
Hi great video!
For a 4 room bto layout, but with most walls knocked down such that there is only one large living/dining room + one larger master bedroom, would it better with 2 mesh nodes (1 in the db box and 1 in the master bedroom) or better than with 1 router in the db box (say, ASUS RT-AX3000 with more ports) and 1 mesh node in the master bedroom? Assuming the mesh nodes are all via wired backhaul
I think it really depends on whether you require the Ethernet ports or you're just purely using WiFi. I think both setups you mentioned are similar, but the biggest difference is probably the lack of ports. I think if you are mostly using WiFi, then you can go for 2 mesh nodes and if you really need the ethernet ports, you can get a network switch later on to supplement.
@@SherBooga Thanks for the reply! Is there any downside to using the router in the db box instead of a mesh mode, besides cost?
Because adding a supplement network switch in the future will cost some $ as well
The wireless signal will be similarly affected since they are impeded by the db door. However because of the lack of ethernet ports, you may or may not be able to connect to all patch panel ports (D1-D6) to provide ethernet access to all rooms. Typically a mesh node only has about 2-3 ports and with one already being used by the modem, you're only left with limited ports for the other rooms. So if I were in your shoes, I will put the router here. The other room could have the mesh node if you don't need ports. However, as most mesh nodes come in 2-3packs, unless you have an extra mesh node lying around.
Thanks for sharing and this is really great and simplified enough to understand. However is it also okay to place the node at the TV console instead of inside the DB box?
Thanks! If your layout is the same as mine, then no unless you only have one node or you are using wireless backhaul. Assuming you have the modem in the db box, it has to connect to one of the nodes. So it goes to the D1-D6 thing and you connect it to the living room node. You'll have to find a way to connect to the next node from the main node somehow, which is via wireless backhaul unless you run LAN trunking to wherever else you want.
@@SherBooga hi, thanks a lot for the series, I have better understanding about home wifi setup.
Do you know if the patch panel (the D1-D6 thing) can be installed at other part of the flat, or must it be connected to db box?
My flat is an older resale (20 years old).
The fiber termination point is at 1 corner of the living room.
The db box is attached at the wall near the entrance, not in a cabinet like in newer bto.
I'm interested to set a mesh wifi with wired connect for the 2nd node and I'd like to hide the cable as much as possible.
If I can't install a patch panel next to fnp, is there a use of getting lan port in the bedrooms?
At the moment, there is none.
And I don't want visible messy cable running across my home.
You should be able to get a contractor specialising in networking to advise you based on your current ONT, space, and other considerations. If alls accounted for, you should be able to get the patch panel installed in other parts of the house
@@SherBooga Thank you for your reply. I'll look into the network contractor. Thanks again! 🙏
I know this is 1 year ago, for the wired mesh. Let's say without ethernet splitter in the study room. can 1 PC used lan, the other tap wireless to the mesh?
Yup. Possible. The splitter switch is just to have more Ethernet ports
@@SherBooga thks for replying so fast and clarifynig, i didnt expect that ahah.
Can we use the network switch with the DB box instead of the study? Modem>Mesh Router>Network Switch>D1-D6? And then have a Mesh Router at every room. Does it work that way?
It should work. But maybe sometimes it's cheaper to get a mesh router with more ports rather than getting a switch. Be sure to check out the prices.
great content, quick question, can i use the lan splitter directly from the modem (ONT) to connect to D1 to D6? or is must from ONT to Router, then router to the various points at the DB box? Thanks for the help!
It has to be ont - router first because router will assign the ip and forward the data to the rest of the devices. If you want to know more, you can search for how dhcp works!
Hi bro. If I put my AX-3000P in my db box and connect it to D5, then D5 to Mesh Router (Asus XD5) in Mbrm, can it work? Then rely on the AX-3000P for wifi in living rm
It should work similarly to the setup in the video if i understood correctly. But take note that router in db box will have slightly weaker signals.
Hi! Good video! But one question… can the modem be in the DB box and the router be placed in the living room and study by Lan?
Possible, You'll need a way to route the lan cable from the living room to study then.
@@SherBoogaThanks for the reply. Sorry, forgot to mention that my house has the wall port all connected to the DB box port. Its a Bto…
Oh, then I don't think possible unless you ask someone to extend the cable back to the db box or the study. This was why my router is placed in the db box as well even though it is not an ideal spot.
Hey bro, would you think if i place my ASUS RT-AX3000 WiFi-6 on main living room for a 4 RM BTO , would that be suffcient for the whole house? Most of the time is mobile phone and wifi.
From my own experience with my AX3000 I'd say you'll have no issues for the most part, until you reach the mbr or mbr toilet in the case of the layout shown in the video. Could be a temporary solution until you get another device to use the AiMesh technology later on.
Hey there! Would this configuration work :
Modem to D1, D1 to Router. Modem to D4, D4 to node.
For context, I'm using Asus xd4 mini.
TIA!
Don't think it would. Modem should be connected to a main router which will handle the disbursement of data. So the other nodes will have to be connected to the main router
Powerline adapter 👍🏻
Definitely possible, but if you're renovating your house, best to get it all cabled.
Can i connect switch to the lan point in all rooms so all room will have direct ethernet connection?
Each room should already have direct ethernet connection from the D1-D6 shown, do you mean to increase the number of direct ethernet connections in each room? If that's so, yes it's possible.
can I use network switch in db box so that the lan point in all room can be use?
Don't need. The router should have enough lan ports for all.
@@SherBooga i mean if using mesh... mesh only have 2 port correct?
Most mesh only have 2 ports. But if you need it, you can get a mesh router with more lan ports but it usually costs more.
Is it means that if I was using mesh,one of the node must be in the DB box ?
I also interested to know
Don't need to. Depending on how you set it up, you can put one of the nodes in the study with the Ethernet cable from the modem to patch panel, then patch panel to study. But the downside is that you may need to see how you are going to connect the other nodes
Is it possible to connect fibre optic cable straight to the Router instead of ONR?
The ONT or ONR "translates" the fibre optic signals to a signal that the rest of your devices understand, so it is not possible with the standard devices we have.
@@SherBooga but what if your router have SFP+ , example like the xiao mi 10 gigabits router ?
Highly doubt that it would work since the ONTs leased by the ISPs are usually only compatible with their own signals. I believe only superinternet allowed you to terminate the fibre optic signals using your own compatible sfp+ router but I don't think they are giving residential plans anymore. I may be wrong, please contact your ISP to ask for more info.
@@SherBooga would you like to try it out and make a video of it ?
I would rather have mesh in living room than in DB box🤦
That would be the best.