Best of Bangerracing Crashes 2018!

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  • Best of Bangerracing Crashes 2018!
    This video shows all the best Bangerracing crashes from 2018! It also includes different hits from Autorodeo's i've recorded in 2018. Tracks included are Emmen, Warneton, Skegness, Arena Essex, Kings Lynn, Bentelo, Rouveen and Nieuwleusen. Enjoy this european version of Demolition Derby!
    #BangerRacing #DemolitionDerby #Autorodeo
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Komentáře • 198

  • @fristytron
    @fristytron Před 4 lety +16

    There are vintage cars from 50's and 60's ,.. don't deserve that ending ;(

    • @johnotto5639
      @johnotto5639 Před 3 lety +4

      So buy them and restore them. Otherwise let them have their fun.

  • @redthedrummer9719
    @redthedrummer9719 Před 5 lety +52

    this makes a car collector cry.

  • @jacob6.7
    @jacob6.7 Před 5 lety +10

    you know it's gonna be a good race whenever you pull in to the parking lot and there is like 50 tow trucks just standing by.

  • @MauriceSaraber
    @MauriceSaraber Před 4 lety +2

    All those old classics.. such a damn shame..

  • @xXZanzi97Xx
    @xXZanzi97Xx Před 5 lety +27

    That supra mk4 at 4:10? Men, they are crazy...

  • @tamarawalther4524
    @tamarawalther4524 Před 2 lety +1

    Auto rodeo Nederland has the BEST videos EVER!!! My 7 year old granddaughter and I love to watch them together!

  • @dakotacappaurcci2423
    @dakotacappaurcci2423 Před 5 lety +7

    I have whiplash just from watching this

  • @darrenduffield2553
    @darrenduffield2553 Před 5 lety

    I’ve been saving this video to watch on New Year’s Day so I know I will start the new year off an a crash , bang , t bone and roll over great video keep it up guys can’t wait for the 2019 season to kick off bring it on 😄

  • @Ghost12973N
    @Ghost12973N Před 4 lety +6

    6:23 car coming right at him and he cooly walks to the right.

  • @1298Tomcat
    @1298Tomcat Před 5 lety +83

    Why don't people use new ugly cars and save the old beautiful cars ;-;

    • @AutorodeoNederland
      @AutorodeoNederland  Před 5 lety +16

      New cars are too expensive to race, old cars are cheap as they are rustboxes.

    • @poitoulibre636
      @poitoulibre636 Před 5 lety

      @@AutorodeoNederland this isnt true. You dont need to buy a brand new car if you cant afford that to run this game. And you actually loosing more money even using an old cheap fashioned car completely rusted.

    • @AutorodeoNederland
      @AutorodeoNederland  Před 5 lety +1

      @@poitoulibre636 it is true i do buy cars for this type of racing myself.

    • @markvanderwel7182
      @markvanderwel7182 Před 5 lety +6

      They costs of repair and replacing the rotten pieces in the old cars are much higher due to expensive costs of labour in Holland. The rules for these cars to keep them on the road is also a real pain because you can't cut much corners as they do in the U.S. So the car breakers make money buying an old rotten piece. Sell as much parts put of it to keep other classics not that rotten on the road and finally they got a very cheap rust bucket left over. The put in an not orginal engine and gearbox out of an other carbrand and they are ready to go. I also consider it as a shame because I love the looks of the older cars and some of them would be real base for building a hotrod. After all with that. Investing 20.000 euro in it would end with a car worth 15.000 euro.

    • @notsamsamsucks3586
      @notsamsamsucks3586 Před 5 lety +2

      Coz new cars are too complicated

  • @leorabanser2225
    @leorabanser2225 Před 4 lety +2

    Noooooooo! Not that citroen ds ambulance. There were only 120 built of theese😭😭

  • @EZDUZITRacing
    @EZDUZITRacing Před 5 lety

    Awesome!

  • @waynewhitson6914
    @waynewhitson6914 Před 5 lety +6

    "911, Please State Your Emergency"
    Me: "Send the 'Jaws of Life' to the Banger Meet"
    "How many 'Jaws of Life' do you need?"
    Me: "ALL OF THEM!!! HOW MANY YA GOT???"

    • @spencerwaldron2927
      @spencerwaldron2927 Před 5 lety

      We race my son is east anglian champion... The cars we build are strong with crumple zones and massive cages floor plates door plates bolted up doors boots etc stronger than when came of production line.... Got to have the balls....

  • @rocknrollbaby687
    @rocknrollbaby687 Před 4 lety +6

    Citroën DS version ambulance very rare no destroy!!

  • @mollyspicer3189
    @mollyspicer3189 Před 5 lety

    amazing

  • @user-od2yi9sh5o
    @user-od2yi9sh5o Před 5 lety +12

    3:46 Thanos's hand?!

  • @IMAMAUSSIE92
    @IMAMAUSSIE92 Před 5 lety +8

    Bigger crowds here then a NASCAR event

  • @Medic365
    @Medic365 Před 4 lety

    King!

  • @lukegracevideos6615
    @lukegracevideos6615 Před 5 lety +4

    Epic

  • @whitefoxvideos2124
    @whitefoxvideos2124 Před 5 lety +1

    Great video👌👍

  • @jameselliott9397
    @jameselliott9397 Před 5 lety +2

    Banger racers should come to America and put on shows. Americans would pay big money to see this.

    • @opoxious1592
      @opoxious1592 Před 5 lety

      I still don't understand why the Americans don't do this kind of banger racing.
      Plenty of the same kind of race tracks over there.

    • @jameselliott9397
      @jameselliott9397 Před 5 lety +1

      Good question. I used to race in a race called an enduro at brushcreek motorsports in Ohio. But they get pissy if you hit them.

    • @twoeightythreez
      @twoeightythreez Před 5 lety +4

      @@opoxious1592 I understand perfectly. The USA is a land of litigation. Many tracks have been closed down because of NOISE complaints. Too much liability and it doesnt matter what kind of waivers are signed (just look at divorce courts) someone will find a way to sue for big $$$ and win.
      So, we basically get fullsize bumper cars.

    • @TheBulap
      @TheBulap Před 4 lety +1

      I really never understood why demo derbies are so big here in NA, but actual banger racing is so rare. I would love to see them race their shitty Neons and Cavaliers before they destroy them.

    • @opoxious1592
      @opoxious1592 Před rokem

      @@twoeightythreez Well, i still hope that they manage to build a track somewhere far enough from complaining people.
      It should be no problem, due the fact that the U.S is about 260 times bigger than "The Netherlands" .
      This footage is recorded in the Netherlands (Europe)

  • @RandalColling
    @RandalColling Před 5 lety +2

    Looks SO FUN!!! We need this in America!!

    • @wetzelkenneth
      @wetzelkenneth Před 5 lety

      We do...

    • @opoxious1592
      @opoxious1592 Před rokem

      It's insane to witness this madness in person along the track.
      As you can see, the crashes are literally 7 or 8 feet from where you stand behind the fences.
      You can feel the impact in you stomac when you are that close.
      It's quite an experience, but a fantastic one.

  • @doekford1711
    @doekford1711 Před 5 lety

    Wow!!

  • @boeing_RBLX
    @boeing_RBLX Před 4 lety +2

    Every time as car hits: *people: ayyy!!!!*

  • @kazoosandalcoholoasistribu3139

    “I’m currently using my wifes family car, she thinks I’ve gone too the shops, how m I gonna break it too her?”😂😂😂😂

  • @partybiscuit
    @partybiscuit Před 5 lety +1

    I love you crazy Dutch. 🇬🇧

  • @asd36f
    @asd36f Před 5 lety +6

    0:22 - Is that a Checker cab/taxi?

  • @iCrapBubbles
    @iCrapBubbles Před 5 lety +1

    What are the fuel tanks like on these cars, how are ruptures prevented??

  • @aspandi5202
    @aspandi5202 Před 4 lety

    Mantap

  • @chloerip80
    @chloerip80 Před 5 lety +1

    Do they reinforce the drivers area?

  • @viktor6581
    @viktor6581 Před 5 lety +5

    so manny nice old cars... why??

  • @brendonchapman8514
    @brendonchapman8514 Před 5 lety +1

    So many beautiful cars that could be turned into fantastic machines. What a waste of great cars.

    • @AutorodeoNederland
      @AutorodeoNederland  Před 5 lety +3

      You mean what a waste of rust as most of these cars are not more than that.

  • @josephsollender8487
    @josephsollender8487 Před 4 lety +1

    I assume there is a certain amount of pre race drinking going on in the pits, hold my beer I got a race to do...

  • @JorgeLuis-np9hz
    @JorgeLuis-np9hz Před 4 lety

    wow

  • @juansantos1614
    @juansantos1614 Před 5 lety +1

    Where ,when and how much?

  • @milospikic6445
    @milospikic6445 Před 5 lety

    Ludo burazeru...ludo

  • @tropenband
    @tropenband Před 5 lety

    Why do these cars collapse like cardboard? Did they remove the protections / supports?

    • @AutorodeoNederland
      @AutorodeoNederland  Před 5 lety +1

      No, the actually put more strenght in it. The cars need to fold so the drivers wont feel to much of the hit the day after.

    • @opoxious1592
      @opoxious1592 Před 5 lety +1

      If you drive in somebody's rear-end of the car with 50+ Mph, every car collapses like cardboard

    • @twoeightythreez
      @twoeightythreez Před 5 lety +1

      No they are just hitting that hard. Try it sometime, hit a car going 50mph and see how well it holds up.

  • @jasonp9340
    @jasonp9340 Před 5 lety

    how does no one get seriously injured in this. Some of those hits end inside the car right behind the driver.

  • @kotastrophie
    @kotastrophie Před 5 lety +5

    Soo much fun! I remember when my uncle chip smashed into a car and immediately another car smashed into his car that wedged him between 2 cars and the wall and than another car at full speed smashed straight into the side of his car crushing him and his car killing him instantly. It was so compacted we ended up burying the crushed car with him still inside. Soo! much fun

  • @johnmontgomery3174
    @johnmontgomery3174 Před 5 lety +1

    These cars must have very good driver protection. They look like old beat-up cars, but the drivers don't appear to get hurt.

    • @AutorodeoNederland
      @AutorodeoNederland  Před 5 lety +1

      Yeah there's loads of protection in these cars.

    • @Ash-nk5ix
      @Ash-nk5ix Před 5 lety

      @@AutorodeoNederland theres actually fuck all protection in these cars, they dont even have full cages. hans devises arent required. no bucket seats. looking at the way they fold in half with one decent hit im pretty sure most of them have no reinforcement. enjoy it while you can. once the media gets a hold of the next death youll all be shut down

    • @TheRubberduck1982
      @TheRubberduck1982 Před 5 lety +2

      @@Ash-nk5ix you couldn't be more wrong. come and visit one of these races in the Netherlands and see for yourself, before judging. good luck with the keyboard warrior stuff.

    • @Ash-nk5ix
      @Ash-nk5ix Před 5 lety

      @@TheRubberduck1982 I'm just happy here thanks. It doesn't take a genius to watch how close to death these drivers are, no wonder so many people die

    • @TheRubberduck1982
      @TheRubberduck1982 Před 5 lety +1

      @@Ash-nk5ix stop talking crap from your lazy chair aka keyboard-warrior. start educating yourself, but what am i thinking trying to argue with some one coming from the land of the Fake News.......

  • @reyvic884
    @reyvic884 Před 3 lety

    im yo quiero un trabajo asi

  • @ozzyozzy626
    @ozzyozzy626 Před 3 lety +1

    Bien triste de voir encore une DS en stock car ...

  • @jhonggggjj7992
    @jhonggggjj7992 Před 5 lety

    Disclaimer :No card were injured!

  • @ripwalker1845
    @ripwalker1845 Před 4 lety

    Bro the 1965 shelby gt350r

  • @mattisyrtos5434
    @mattisyrtos5434 Před 5 lety

    They are never dead ?

  • @Just_andy588
    @Just_andy588 Před 3 lety

    Do all these guys just come flying into the other cars just to make sure that they won’t move again

  • @xxdiphxx6682
    @xxdiphxx6682 Před 5 lety +2

    Why like are they using old nice cars I’m over here like wtf idk if they aren’t that rare over there but idk

    • @mikepeugeot7344
      @mikepeugeot7344 Před 4 lety

      Most of them are rare cars and they're rust buckets but I'd just love to restore some anyway

  • @Toesmack1
    @Toesmack1 Před 5 lety +1

    This, boys and girls is what we call a crumple zone.

  • @85square
    @85square Před 5 lety +2

    NOOO a supra

  • @wetzelkenneth
    @wetzelkenneth Před 5 lety

    Imma do this like not like where your going almost half a mile per hour and crashing fenders no i will be like 102mph split the guys car in half type deadly stuff

  • @maxencebaud7345
    @maxencebaud7345 Před 5 lety

    Poor Supra 😪😭

  • @ncjohn3429
    @ncjohn3429 Před 5 lety +3

    Virtually attempted murder.

  • @musonchick
    @musonchick Před 5 lety

    what kind of car at 0:19 and 0:26? что за авто на 0:19 и 0:26?

    • @AutorodeoNederland
      @AutorodeoNederland  Před 5 lety +1

      Willy's Overland from 1934 i believe

    • @AutorodeoNederland
      @AutorodeoNederland  Před 5 lety +1

      Willy's Overland from 1934 and a Citroen from 1928

    • @joegilly1523
      @joegilly1523 Před 5 lety

      To me the first one looks like a 50 something Chevy bel air and the second one looks like a model T Ford .Either way they are scrap now. To bad some good looking old cars that when gone ,gone for good .

    • @AutorodeoNederland
      @AutorodeoNederland  Před 5 lety

      @@joegilly1523 well most of these were bought from collectors and restore guys who took all parts and sold a rotten box.

  • @marcusbrunke182
    @marcusbrunke182 Před 4 lety +1

    Schade um die tollen Autos geht garnicht

  • @twoeightythreez
    @twoeightythreez Před 5 lety

    2:07 I thought you couldnt hit drivers side that hard. All these cars look to be LHD.

  • @davidhall5520
    @davidhall5520 Před 3 lety

    Are they driving blind folded?..

  • @Just_andy588
    @Just_andy588 Před 3 lety

    NOOO not the SUPRA Mk4 😭😭

  • @maxime45
    @maxime45 Před 5 lety

    Never fatal crash or seriously injuries ?

  • @danielgoetz7821
    @danielgoetz7821 Před 4 lety

    I'm wondering how many people get killed doing this

  • @hearse_boy_8620
    @hearse_boy_8620 Před 4 lety

    So many good bodies destroyed... A shame really.

  • @theprisonernumbersix996

    No respect .... Even the Rolls! I will not believe you if you told me that it was not recoverable.
    There are always pieces that can delight an owner who restores his car.

    • @TheBulap
      @TheBulap Před 4 lety

      If they're at the point of getting used for this, they're almost guaranteed to be rusty shitboxes beyond salvaging. There is absolutely a point where these things are so trashed for various reasons that you could not effectively restore them if you wanted to. You can't just replace the entire frame or every body panel. It sucks, but then again I'd rather they go out like this than getting crushed in a yard or rotting in a field someplace.

  • @TristanWilder
    @TristanWilder Před 4 lety

    Just last week I saw an DS Ambulance that sat around for ever non restored and going for 10K ... so you could have gotten 5K at least for this one ... plus, man they are really rare and would love to own one ... also on the list a checker cab ... both crushed. yeah sad about it but oh well it has happened ... might as well enjoy the madness seeing these being smashed.

    • @AutorodeoNederland
      @AutorodeoNederland  Před 4 lety +1

      Most of those classics are so rotten that they are bought from car collectors who don't know what to do with it. Would love to have such a car myself but i know the state of them before being prepared for these races.

    • @TristanWilder
      @TristanWilder Před 4 lety

      @@AutorodeoNederland Sure it breaks ya heart to see it but like you say ... some are far from the point of no return and would either just look good in the garden, rust decoration in a shop or yeah, give them their last ride to hell with some show! At least most of the videos show 90s cars being smashed ... and in 30 years the next next generation will be crying out whyyy??? heheh Thing is, I totally dig Banger Racing. Would love to see one in England. Just saw two in Germany and they weren't as mad as this. So as a kid games like Destruction Derby aso gave me the kicks haha

    • @TristanWilder
      @TristanWilder Před 4 lety

      @@AutorodeoNederland plus, yeah I totally have to see some of these events in the Netherlands one day :D

    • @AutorodeoNederland
      @AutorodeoNederland  Před 4 lety

      @@TristanWilder yeah the one in germany is a bit different. Its good fun the drivers from the uk like emmen really much as the attitude from the drivers is more old school.

  • @marcnelson2645
    @marcnelson2645 Před 4 lety

    I dont understand. Can you fist fight. Cause i believe it would make me mad

  • @_ford_crown_victoria_p

    #kamikaze

  • @TheShagdog1313
    @TheShagdog1313 Před 3 lety

    You guys know what demolition means, in the USA they cant hit like this,,, this is brilliant. 4:37 hey, can anyone fix my rearend,,, sure. 4:50. 4:54 4:59. 6:01. 6:58 I need a new accordion please 2:45

  • @jasonhipkins
    @jasonhipkins Před 4 lety

    Is the point of the race to win the race? Because all I see is crashing hard on purpose.

  • @Just_andy588
    @Just_andy588 Před 3 lety

    In the intro I saw a Mustang, Rolls Royce like really why use a Rolls for a demo car

    • @opoxious1592
      @opoxious1592 Před rokem

      Well, first of all a Rolls has a bodywork, that is nearly indestructable

  • @HerkMeck
    @HerkMeck Před 5 lety +2

    Is this a Russian driving school?

    • @AutorodeoNederland
      @AutorodeoNederland  Před 5 lety +5

      Nah dont think so, they are not beating the shit out of each other after they crash haha

    • @S.Marinoff
      @S.Marinoff Před 5 lety

      @@AutorodeoNederland это точно:)

  • @zachevans7861
    @zachevans7861 Před 4 lety

    No!!!! Not the 1932 willys knight!

  • @mulyadiadi8835
    @mulyadiadi8835 Před 4 lety

    Bayangkan bila manusia2 barbar ini berada di Indonesia dan mengemudi di jalan umum...

  • @Kingnumber-nd9cl
    @Kingnumber-nd9cl Před 5 lety

    0:22 is that a rolls Royce?

  • @claytons2602
    @claytons2602 Před 5 lety

    I don't like how people put thes nice looking cars that are in still good condition in a derby that are is hard to find and expensive

    • @AutorodeoNederland
      @AutorodeoNederland  Před 5 lety

      It looks like they are in good condition but on most of the cars they had to weld a few days before thr could race.

  • @carlover1816
    @carlover1816 Před 5 lety

    Do the banger racers own every single American car in Europe?
    Because that's whet I guess watching this.

  • @iandominics4328
    @iandominics4328 Před 5 lety +1

    Poor 67 mustang..

    • @AutorodeoNederland
      @AutorodeoNederland  Před 5 lety +1

      It was burned out sadly otherwise it wouldnt have been used.

    • @ladonnagauchat6428
      @ladonnagauchat6428 Před 5 lety

      @@AutorodeoNederland europeans to fuckin dumb to fix it

    • @THOMASTHUNDERPEEN
      @THOMASTHUNDERPEEN Před 5 lety +5

      @@ladonnagauchat6428 When a car has sustained sufficient fire damage it just isn't worth rebuilding. If it burned out without being put out by emergency responders, you have weak, extremely deformed sheet metal from a totally uncontrolled blaze.
      If it was put out by emergency responders, you have quenched metal, which causes it to harden and become brittle. Either way, the car is basically a total loss, especially if it was cheap enough to enter into banger racing without being too cheaty. If you look at a lot of the classic American stuff there, most of it got absolutely deleted by people crashing into it. That's usually because
      A: They were so far gone with rot and rust they were just barely holding together, and aren't worth enough to justify restoring since they're not cult cars or famous models of car in any way, just classics.
      B: Other fire damaged cars as well
      In summary: Europeans are smarter to decide to take a car that for all intents and purposes is going to the crusher anyways, throw in a cheap engine, trans, and have fun and race with it while also giving it a good sendoff rather than what most Americans would do and just let insurance total it out and just go get a new one to baby.

  • @BMWLyrre
    @BMWLyrre Před 5 lety

    I wonder how many suffer from whiplash every year.

    • @AutorodeoNederland
      @AutorodeoNederland  Před 5 lety +2

      Close to zero ;)

    • @BMWLyrre
      @BMWLyrre Před 5 lety

      @@AutorodeoNederland Hows that possible? :D No rollcage, no harness.. like small amount of protection

    • @paatcho
      @paatcho Před 5 lety +1

      @@BMWLyrre Well, they have a rollcage construction obviously, otherwise the cars wouldn´t stay intact in the area around the driver. And they do have harnesses too!

    • @BMWLyrre
      @BMWLyrre Před 5 lety

      @@paatcho I wouldn't say it's a rollcage they use. I mean check @0.18 the red one. I see some plates bolted outside the door and some box iron frame behind the seat.

    • @asd36f
      @asd36f Před 5 lety

      @@BMWLyrre
      The box iron frame behind the seat is called a "H" frame.

  • @blitz375
    @blitz375 Před 5 lety +2

    zo jammer van die oldtimers

  • @craig3.0
    @craig3.0 Před 5 lety

    Holy shit, these cars don't have any roll cages. They really need to have mandatory roll cages in those cars just to protect the passenger compartment from caving in, or else someone is gonna die at one of these events sooner rather than later. I mean, old classic cars like the ones in this video were deathtraps, and not just because they didn't have any seatbelts or airbags- they were notorious for the passenger compartment completely buckling and crushing people, and that would happen in something as minor as a 35 mph crash, let alone multiple people purposely ramming you into a concrete wall from behind. I am appalled by the lack of even basic driver safety in this video.

    • @s4_nick605
      @s4_nick605 Před 5 lety

      Craig Blanton They have cages but they’re just for the driver seat

  • @lukegracevideos6615
    @lukegracevideos6615 Před 5 lety

    Can you send me some pictures of the Volvo a Dutch driver drive at kings lynn the ambulance on Facebook messenger my name is Luke Garmston

    • @AutorodeoNederland
      @AutorodeoNederland  Před 5 lety

      Hi Luke, search for Dennis Vorkink, he has plenty on his Facebook page.😉

  • @amandamattfeaviour2231

    good to see some vintage metal getting wrecked vintage car lovers eat ya hearts out

  • @kellyg8717
    @kellyg8717 Před 5 lety

    Real living, breathing, shitting, and driving crash test dummies. I had to add shitting cause I'm sure a couple drives solid their shorts when they saw what was coming in the rearview mirror.

  • @RRRIBEYE
    @RRRIBEYE Před 4 lety

    In the 2017 video - no denying DEATH occured when this wagon slammed into a smaller car that was already accordioned - when finished, the wagon's front bumper was all the way to the front dash - hmmm. wonder what was in between all that mangled metal? I doubt 'jaws of life' would have any helpful role. That said, here I am about to watch this 2018 and I doubt after this if I will watch more - or sub. Too stupid and no regard AT ALL for any safety for the drivers. Death Race 2018 should be the name.

    • @AutorodeoNederland
      @AutorodeoNederland  Před 4 lety

      Before 2018 the organisations were allowed to place empty cars on the track so others could just smash it up. Thats what you saw in the 2017 video. In 2018 it was forbidden. The last person who died doing this type of 'racing' was more than 15 years ago because he got out of his car during the race. If it wasnt safe and people would die i doubt if there would be any drivers left by now.

  • @user-qc6yr4cl4h
    @user-qc6yr4cl4h Před 5 lety

    مجانين

  • @coltfaze599
    @coltfaze599 Před 3 lety

    The first contestant is it 65 Ford Mustang and vintage cars collectibles
    Me: noooo why
    Future me. cringe

  • @jcfireman2215
    @jcfireman2215 Před 4 lety

    Euro cars are weak....fold up like a used accordion

  • @Porsche924S
    @Porsche924S Před 5 lety

    poor fucking cars, why dont they use shit boxes instead of nice classics...

  • @jamessissem7319
    @jamessissem7319 Před 5 lety +1

    More than one reply has bemoaned the use of old and classic cars,boohoo,buy the car yourself or put a sock in it.I do kind of agree though,but,I can not afford the cars I want to save eitherf.So let us enjoy their last horah!!!

    • @timforbrook9169
      @timforbrook9169 Před 4 lety +1

      Let us know where they are and we will save the classic. Other than that suck on a sock and don't chock

  • @carelpeeters2355
    @carelpeeters2355 Před 5 lety +1

    Fist

  • @poitoulibre636
    @poitoulibre636 Před 5 lety +3

    Stop using beautiful old fashioned cars.. use todays ugly cars.

    • @TheRubberduck1982
      @TheRubberduck1982 Před 5 lety +2

      Rust buckets, not worth saving knowing european standards. in this way/race they at least get to be driven 1 more time...