@@deerich4 bro Dame has legit help and getting exposed he's been a liability defensively and his offense is declining like I said yall cherry pick when to call someone "washed" foh
This is reminding me of Kemba Walker when he went to the Celtics, got exposed for his defense and for just being a good player on a bad team before, then it went downhill from there
as a Portland fan that watched Dame for over a decade, this is nothing new.. people just put the blame on the other players around him. when you have zero defense, everyone else has to accommodate for you. Dame never had players this good alongside him before, but I KNEW this trade would make people finally see his faults. knew it would stand out like a sore thumb
He'd rather a pity party in small market than burned by the spotlight of expectation!! He's 33!!! Past his prime, if ever there was one. Jacking up any shot he wanted cos no real chance at winning. Inflated ego for barely winning 2 series at the last second. Ball dominant guard in a "F defense" era. Dame a dozen
That’s because your a dame hater just you were in portland and you still spilling hate did he not sign a jersey for you … you have a hang up to go bucks post to complain about dame…see Theropy
That is quite a debate. At first I was like of course Dame is better.. but the more I sat on it.. he doesn't make near the impact that Ray Allen makes on his teams. I agree with you for sure.
@@tracewashburn86I had the same exact thought process, imo dame does something a lot of players do today which is take a lot of shots especially heat checks. Not saying ray didn’t but in his time players were more disciplined with their shots
@@Iwasherelol14People are also too young to remember that Allen was great off the dribble in the first half of his career before he sacrificed his touches and shots to be the third option on contenders. Lillard has always been allowed to basically take any shit he wants, but that wasn’t the way the league was back in the day, and any potential for Allen to have put up those same monsters numbers were gone once he started to try to win, AND he didn’t play his prime in a social media climate where every big shot is amplified like it’s the greatest moment in sports history. I swear, stars nowadays have every one of their good-not-great moments oversold by social media like every new good play is all-time, when back in the day they would’ve just been good, everyday plays by good players. With recency bias and fans today generally being too young to have actually seen, say, Jordan play, definitely skews opinion in favor of “current player is obviously better than past player.” How many videos have we seen of people surprised that Bird was actually one of the best, because he doesn’t seem like someone who would have had Instagram highlight reels?
He shouldn’t have, this isn’t really even controversial. Everybody thinks it’s Steph who change the game on the range of the three-pointer, nope, it was logo Lillard.
@@jonhohensee3258has a lot to do with it… he’s never been proven when it’s a defensive game. He always been out west just chucking shots up and not worried about defense. I loved dame in Portland but he was never perfect. His shot selection is horrible too
@@cvgodd1432 Yep. People kept comparing Dame to Curry. But you know your defense is piss poor when even Curry is a better (team) defender than you are. And on offence, Dame just doesn't move well away from the ball. He stands there like he doesn't know what to do or where to be. It's almost as if Dame thinks basketball is 5 one on one matches that just happen to be on the same court. On the other hand, Curry is always moving and making defenses work really hard. I think casuals are confused; maybe they don't actually watch the games?
@@jonhohensee3258he has been in 1 WCF and never been in a NBA finals. He’s had a great team that was a top 6 in the west for a few seasons but couldn’t get past the 1st & 2nd rounds even when being a top seeded team.
Fans loves to build a athlete up and then tear them down.Dame and Russell Wilson are great examples.Both new fan bases stated we are going to win a chip and within 2 months both fan bases states they are bums.
The sad part about all of this is if Milwaukee players actually matched Giannis energy and consistency every night Milwaukee can be a legit threat & I know blaming Doc is the easiest option here but Milwaukee has looked better defensively since he was hired however offensively Giannis can’t be the only guy showing up on that end consistently
When Adrian Griffin was fired, the Bucks were 2nd in the East but also 2nd overall in the NBA lol. Now they’re like 3 games away from being the 8th seed in the east.
People and/or fans are stupid! People believe that Dame was supposed to just come in and start scoring like he did with the Blazers. There is a thing called "Gel" or "Gelling". Dame still has to find his way and gel, mesh, etc with the team. The problem comes in with the random coaching changes. They started with a coach the organization seem to not want but, was winning. Now, you go from winning with a coach you didn't want, to losing multiple games in a row with a coach the organization wanted, Doc "Choke" Rivers.
The problem is that he didn't want to play for Milwaukee he wanted to come to Miami but was traded there. He is doing just enough to save face there. As a Heat fan, you could keep him because he would have put us over the cap. We don't need someone who shoots wild threes' from half court.
Finally someone says it. Dame’s good, even all star level, but the mega superstar he was looking like was not him. He was looking like Micheal carter Williams in his sixers days. Empty stats and going nowhere. Now that he’s in a winning situation on a team has championship goals, with the scope on him, his flaws are getting highlighted even more. Like Russ on the lakers.
Nothing is wrong with dame, this is just him. I’m still surprised They let someone who isn’t that good and hasn’t done much into the nba top 75 of all time.
@@Snatch-rb3ft I think Jrue fits Celtics better than Bucks cause the Bucks needs another scorer. Thing is they lost both defense and offense cause Dame is absent in defense and hasn't produced much in offense. It seems it only works when he has the ball in his hands like in Portland and even there, they kept getting swept. He's just not that guy people painted him to be.
Dame has always been this player, only thing is he had all the freedom to jack up about any shot he felt like, that didn't win Portland nothing. What was everyone expecting??
@@momopouye Yes, he stayed in Portland when he probably should have left if he seriously wanted to compete for a title. I think he has a different measure of success though than sports media/average fans do.
I BELIEVE. He is going thru so many personal issues, on top of being injured him and khris. Let them be consistently healthy, and I can almost assure you they’ll have a really hard time losing in a 7 game series!
@@jahkrmusic exactly, so his kids haven’t always been with him and he ain’t know they truly safe if they are all the way in Portland, so he’s genuinely got so much going on
@@adamsecord9943 Agreed. I honestly wrote this season off for the Bucks. They just have too much going on. Even Coach Buds firing came from his brother dying in a car crash. They literally had to let him go to grieve.
This is why it made more sense for him to be on the heat since they can just run the offense through him as the 1st option. Jimmy doesn’t mind this and is only the 1st option by necessity. With Giannis, dame has to learn how to not have the ball 24/7 and actually attempt to play defense. I do believe he’ll be able to adjust in the second half but honestly it looks a bit too awkward halfway in. 😅
😂 Now apparently everyone in the comments section thinks he was just overrated and they've thought that way the whole time. They all knew this wouldn't work out. They knew his shooting percentages would plummet despite having more open looks. Everyone's a genius with hindsight.
@@DefyANT__1 There's no evidence, nor will there ever be, to support that the 2021 run was a fluke because it's a 100% subjective argument. Giannis is the best player in the game after Jokic. He's proven it.
Casuals probably needed hindsight but anybody that know basketball know he been overated he been one of the worst defensive pg in the league his entire career,shot 40% from 3 once in his entire career ,never averaged a fg% over 46% in his career, and blew 3 17+ leads in a row to get swept by gsw but ppl seem to think he never had a good enough team or a legit chance to beat gsw but he did in 2019 and he choked it away and was one of the worst players on his team and the reason they lost
Bucks were a good Unit who needed to only make minor changes to improve and yet they hijacked the move of Miami Heat whose offensive setup revolves around guards like Damian Lillard. In the process, they indirectly senr Jrue Holiday to contender in Celtics sabotaging Heat and themselves. Bucks don’t have defensive system which masks the defensive lapses of guards like Heat’s system. They also don’t have players to do that like Bam, Butler, Caleb etc and most important their zone.
My opinion: The Bucks are not as good as previous years because the ball is not always in Giannis’s hand. And having the ball in Giannis’s hand is more dangerous than in Lillard’s. The thing is that in Portland, the ball almost always had to be in Dame’s hand. He never had to play that much off-ball. Going from having the ball all the time to not having to do that is a big change. And then, he isn’t a good defender. The Bucks didn’t need a Lillard, Jrue was the perfect PG for the Bucks. Bucks needed to fix defensive scheme, not the players. With Dame not being a good defender, it makes other Bucks players have to put more effort on the defensive end. I was watching the Bucks game against the Jazz recently, and I was thinking that they were hitting tougher shots than they needed to, and the Bucks were getting away, until the 4th quarter, with the defense they played. The Jazz was just missing a lot of shots that should have been buckets. That 4th quarter choke is no accident.
Bucks issue was offense though…. Only giannis was able to score and he wasn’t very efficient cause there weren’t really other shooters around him like that. I think we needed one more season as a group with giannis jrue and khris back healthy.
Yes the Bucks needed a reliable second scoring option. Middleton is too injury prone nowadays. Brook and Jrue were too inconsistent, especially come playoff time. So they needed another elite scorer to take the offensive load off Giannis. The problem is that Dame has been playing like crap this season and sucks at defense. Jrue looks much better on the Celtics because he's got 4 other starters who can consistently get 20+ a night while he can just focus on defense.
@@elizaschaeffer34 If you mean mid-range or 3pt shooting, then yes. But Giannis has been averaging 60% or higher in overall FGs this season and past seasons.
@@CCEkeke I meant last season. Last season he wasn’t very efficient and neither was anybody else. This season he’s crazy efficient and his teammates still kinda lay bricks all night for whatever reason. They’re bricking wide open shots. Either her shoots through 2-3 defenders for a bucket or he passes for a wide open 3 which typically gets bricked
@@elizaschaeffer34 Yeah I can agree there. He's now sharing more with Dame and trying to get other teammates involved via assists. Unfortunately, the Bucks besides Giannis just suck now.
The problem with Damian Lillard is that he's used to having the ball in his hand. He first started the season he had two big men in Portland. After they left he was the team. Damian Lillard is now with Giannis in Milwaukee he have to get to use to playing Team Ball but Giannis have to learn how to do the picking rolls and post players for Damian Lillard can play better
I don’t want to say he’s washed, he still looks like he’s in great shape. It’s simply just a bad season. Steph in 21-22 shot 43,38,92. It’s a new team, by the time playoffs come he’ll be better. -btw I don’t see them still winning a championship this season.
Steph the best player on his team tho getting all the defensive attention dame a sidekick seeing far less defensive attention so it's levels and Steph actually get steals something dame rarely gets so its not the same
@@peezydabeatmonster8112 dame is literally averaging more steals than Steph. I’m saying Players sometimes have a bad season even the great Steph curry has had an off season. I’m not trying to say they’re in the same conversation or anything.
Idk who thought Dame was gon start playin defense but thats your fault not his. Who tf picks up a 10+ year vet who's never played defense with the expectation that he's gonna start now?! Thats not on Dame imo
You know us Celtics fans tried to warn you guys about Milwaukee and you guys were talking all that shit about how great Milwaukee was. We tried to tell you they weren’t as good as you thought. 😂
@@theetruth8626 to be honest we don’t have to win a championship for another decade or two because we already have 17 of them. At this point we’re just being greedy. How many does Milwaukee have……Oh wait, I forgot that’s a touchy subject for you isn’t it?! 🤣
This is the problem with the NBA community. Everything is so hyperbolic and so over exaggerated. How are you gonna call this dude literal trash because he's having one bad year
Putting Lillards face inside of the words “Trash” automatically disqualify you from making basketball content ever again. You could make the same video, without the need for the ridiculous clickbait picture
Crazy how Brooke and Portis is more consistent than Dame. Why are they getting more points than him when he's the pg??? Either he's washed up or needs more time, but he needs to get it together 👏because the only thing saving his career right now is them freethrows. Smh DISSAPOINTED.
the guy didn't want it to be there in the first place...that trade was a big mistake..they should have stayed with holiday and looked for another PF..or a center ...Boston saw how the Nuggets defeated the heat with their big man and went to the market for the best big man available
When you said Dame is better than Ray Allen that's when all credibility is flushed down the drain, my goodness I'll tell you Dame's having problem with Lopez attitude of not trusting him.
People are crazy if they think griffin was gonna get them to the promised land. I'm from Milwaukee and watch literally every game and AG was horrible. There hasn't been one time he tried arguing with the ref or showed passion for the game. He didn't make any adjustment during any part of any game. Giannis and dame are getting older, they have no time to waste so they fired him and went and got doc. I'm highly invested in the Bucks so I'm not as mad about the pick up as other people are. Doc has to come in and make some corrections so that's why it's looking sloppy at first. I promise you guy, anybody woulda been better than AG.
You’re right but I wouldn’t trust Doc that much either. He’s like AG when it comes the playoffs. He’s had nothing but talented teams to work with over the years and he can only hang his hat on one championship almost 20 years ago
I don’t think Dame is happy in Milwaukee. He and Brooke Lopez always look upset with eachother. He’s been so comfortable in Portland it probably just feels way different to him,
I think it’s just unfortunate circumstances and they may be able to push through it and compete throughout these final 25+ games & wherever they can get in the playoffs
I think before the season started after the trade went down i believe i heard a interview with him with the Milwaukee Media he quoted this was his first time in his career he felt small when i heard that i new right there it wasn't going to work but aye the season isn't over let me see what happens
Excusing his trash play because he’s Dame and because he’s a good dude and because he went through a lot in Portland lmao gtfoh dude wanted a better opportunity, got it and is folding like a lawn chair. Also Giannis is a prima Donna so I’m sure that doesn’t help
The problem is people had a skewed idea of how good he was. The media would cover when he had a scoring outburst on the trailblazers.if he had a bad game you would never hear about it. He’s a good shooter (sometimes) bad defender average finisher..who doesn’t pass
Or it could be this is the first time he is playing with expectations to win a chip and he ain't built for it. It a different monster putting up buckets on a bad to average team than it is putting up buckets on a team with championship expectations who gets other team's best every night.
I've never been apart of the group who thought Dame was any more than he is or that it was ALL on the Blazers, but this is rough. His stats dont tell the whole story. You've got to see them playing to grasp how bad he's been. I think it's probably the change in his personal life with a divorce. I hope he's able to find a balance and look a little more like the Dame we thought he could be on this team.
He's probably on the decline in general. He's a rhythm shooter so not having the ball in his hands all the time contributes, but that ain't the whole deal. His shooting percentage still shouldn't fall off a cliff in a scenario where he's getting more open looks than ever. I think his mind has (understandably) been elsewhere, and at this stage of his career it's unlikely that he's gonna get it back.
It's not age with Lillard. Lillard's speed, quickness, and athleticism isn't diminished. I don't think he's comfortable in his role, and probably feels pressure of the expectations. The Bucks have been a top 3 seed in the East with championship expectations, fired their championship coach, traded for Dame, and now fired their new coach mid season, with the second best record not only in the East, but in the league at the time. The Bucks had the easiest schedule and struggled to beat bad teams. The point being, Dame will never have an excuse for not winning a title. Failure harms not only his legacy, but Giannis legacy as well. Maybe his ex said that's why you're never going to win a chip, and he's got that pressure too😂 The other part, about his role is this. I remember when I used to hoop locked up, that I played pretty well when I perceived myself to be the best player on the team. Usually multiple courts and games, the better hoopers would see me killing it and pick me up. I'd still usually grab boards, but my shot would be off and I'd be second guessing what I'm doing because I know there's better scorers. Just to say that Dame's under a lot of pressure, and him not being the best player on the team may be affecting his play. I'd try to stagger their minutes as much as possible. If they're both playing 35, I'd try to create a situation where they're only on the court together 22 minutes. Creating the most opportunities for each to lead the team offensively. When Dame's out for 13 of Giannis minutes we got Pat Bev. When Giannis is out for 13 of Dame's minutes Brook and Bobby are capable. Brook has to be respected by that three point line which opens up lanes for Dame. The Bucks need to think about it as a 3 look team, with 3 different systems of offense and defense. Dame and Giannis, Giannis without Dame, and Dame without Giannis. Start with one, move to the next, and the following, and whatever one is working the best on a given night is what you lean on.
At the end of the day, dame was never in a situation where he was expected to win. In Portland, when they win it’s dame time, when they lose it’s his teammates not playing d. Playing in a franchise where you are expected to win every night is where great players shine and until he has done it, shouldn’t be placed on the same echelon as the superstars who played through that kind of pressure. Chucking up shots and playing 0 defence can only get you that far.
It's obvious what the Bucks issue is. They are disconnected on and off the court. Blame Griffin, Doc, the players or whoever u want but they're just not playing together
Has Dame ever been on NBA Finals team? NO. So why are we expecting more of him. He’s above average but we give him MVP level treatment when he’s never been a top 3. He a really an all star level player but seriously he doesn’t meet expectations that people have for him.
or can we just stop expecting such instant results???? the main problem with society these days. let them figure it out. it might be this season or it might not be. or it might be the next season or so on. this instant result expectations are getting out of hand
Heat’s offer for Dame was trash, and I still stand to this day that it is. Like, does Portland need another guard in Herro when they already have multiple young ones like Simmons, Henderson, and Sharpe for the future?! Pat Riley gotta do better than that. And even if he does end up in South Beach, this performance he is putting up here in Milwaukee will probably shift there
@@fbcorpuz7441 yes, because that deal has worked out so well for Portland lol. The best player Portland received from that deal, ayton, has been absolute dog feces. Herro is a lot of things, and one of them is being a 21 ppg scorer on a team with 2 other 20 ppg scorers, whereas Portland only has Simons and grant cracking 20. At the very least, herro would’ve been far more helpful to Portland then Ayton has been. Portland isn’t even going to really benefit from that trade until 5 years from now, when they can use those 1sts. I highly doubt Cronin will still have a job by then. Riley could’ve done better, but so could have Portland. Instead they settled on a trade with the only other team even willing to entertain the thought and now all parties suck b/c of it. Well, except jrue 😂😂. You may be right about dame, but Miami has the infrastructure to mask his defensive issues, Milwaukee doesn’t. So the production Miami would’ve gotten from dame would’ve been far more impactful then what he’s giving Milwaukee. But hey, I’m not complaining, Portland’s gonna be in the gutter for the next 2-3 years AND Milwaukee is on the decline. The main threat to miamis return to the finals is Boston. So I’m good lol
Thats the thing .......HES JUST A SCORER.... at what point in his career has been at least an above average "team defender"....... his defensive short comings has been overloooked his WHOLE career.... hes still get you a bucket
Lillard has proven time and time again that he is not a championship calibre player. He produces some highlights here and there but not enough to carry a team to the top.
Look at what Dame does once he gives up the ball, compared to what Steph does. They are on completely different levels, or planets. When Steph gives up the ball, that’s actually a DANGER!DANGER! siren to the defense. with Dame, it’s a great opportunity to reallocate his defender into a double-team.
Sadly I think it's becoming horrifically clear that swapping Jrue for Dame hasn't panned out. When Jrue came to Milwaukee and got the big contract, I remember this video moment where before signing he looked at the camera with a smile and said "I'm a buck for life". And dude meant it. But it was much more. He didn't just play for the team, he became a leader and fit in perfectly with Khris, Giannis and Brook. And more than that Jrue and his wife became super involved and invested in the community. You could tell he was wounded by being traded. And it wounded most Bucks fans too. And now, looking back, it's even more painful. Because the team wasn't broken. The team thrived on inconsistency, which was frustrating to watch but also made them unpredictable. Now? Now this team is just not good. Defense is shit. Offense is myopic. Giannis is clearly disgruntled. Dame is no longer in a system where he can just ball out. it's just sad, man....... but I'm grateful Bucks managed to win a ring. For that I'll be forever happy.
Dane dealing with a divorce and fighting for his kid. Really put into perspective what the fuck kobe was doing drop 40 pts a game when he had the rape trial going. Man was one of one
I’ve watched almost every game from the bucks and imo dames biggest problem is he’s not getting the calls he’s used to getting in Portland he used those free throws to establish his rhythm since he’s playing with Giannis the refs can’t give both of them superstar calls
The Bucks panicked after losing to 8th seed Heat in playoffs. Fired champion coach and when the Heat were about to get Lillard the Bucks said hell nah we got to stop the Heat and steal Lillard.
I hold same expectations like Russ left as well as Damien Lillard went to the Bucks. Same Expectations! I wish him luck but apparently he’s doing worse in Milwaukee than in Portland.
This is nothing compared to russ or harden. Dame has been slightly below expectations and he can be better but the way russ played with LeBron and Ad is inexcusable.
This is the first time Dame has played defense since High School. He don't got the cardio for this.
Good for him that Doc won't see to that defense stuff!
I like that comment
@@artistvantosh You like facts.
People went hard af on Russ for declining on the Lakers but these same people are now making hella excuses for Dame its annoying.
Dame might be falling off slightly but Russ got straight out exposed. If the bucks run their offense through dame he could look like the old dame
@@deerich4 bro Dame has legit help and getting exposed he's been a liability defensively and his offense is declining like I said yall cherry pick when to call someone "washed" foh
@@deerich4 Why tf would they run the offense through Dame when Giannis is the better piece offensively and it's HIS TEAM???
@@Reese1882ywdame is getting straight hate rn on nba twitter what are you talking about
Be quiet lil bro.@@Reese1882yw
This is reminding me of Kemba Walker when he went to the Celtics, got exposed for his defense and for just being a good player on a bad team before, then it went downhill from there
Kemba a more reliable defender than Damion Lillard
Good comp
@@junedeas84thats true, just it was in my head how walker fell out of the rotation in NY due to bad defense
@@Asdftrx it was other reasons bcuz alot of super stars dont play defense
as a Portland fan that watched Dame for over a decade, this is nothing new.. people just put the blame on the other players around him. when you have zero defense, everyone else has to accommodate for you. Dame never had players this good alongside him before, but I KNEW this trade would make people finally see his faults. knew it would stand out like a sore thumb
great comment
He'd rather a pity party in small market than burned by the spotlight of expectation!!
He's 33!!!
Past his prime, if ever there was one.
Jacking up any shot he wanted cos no real chance at winning.
Inflated ego for barely winning 2 series at the last second.
Ball dominant guard in a "F defense" era.
Dame a dozen
Well said.
That’s because your a dame hater just you were in portland and you still spilling hate did he not sign a jersey for you … you have a hang up to go bucks post to complain about dame…see Theropy
@@danielcantrell9227 speak English
Some people are just good on useless teams. Competing on a higher level is another story.
Why are all of Giannis teammates falling off at the same time... 😢
idk💔
@@SpexMedia for the sake of Dame's legacy, I hope this isn't the last year of his prime in the league
😂😂😂😂
except for middleton and beasley, beasley has improved big time since joining
You kinda want to give him grace because he was going through a divorce and in a place he doesn’t want to be but he’s gotta pick it up at a point
Trash is a fucking understatement bro, this man has been one of the reasons we're doing so bad
You lost me at “Damian Lillard is obviously better than Ray Allen”
That is quite a debate. At first I was like of course Dame is better.. but the more I sat on it.. he doesn't make near the impact that Ray Allen makes on his teams. I agree with you for sure.
@@tracewashburn86I had the same exact thought process, imo dame does something a lot of players do today which is take a lot of shots especially heat checks. Not saying ray didn’t but in his time players were more disciplined with their shots
Nigga dame is a way better player then Ray wtf are you smoking on
@@Iwasherelol14People are also too young to remember that Allen was great off the dribble in the first half of his career before he sacrificed his touches and shots to be the third option on contenders. Lillard has always been allowed to basically take any shit he wants, but that wasn’t the way the league was back in the day, and any potential for Allen to have put up those same monsters numbers were gone once he started to try to win, AND he didn’t play his prime in a social media climate where every big shot is amplified like it’s the greatest moment in sports history. I swear, stars nowadays have every one of their good-not-great moments oversold by social media like every new good play is all-time, when back in the day they would’ve just been good, everyday plays by good players. With recency bias and fans today generally being too young to have actually seen, say, Jordan play, definitely skews opinion in favor of “current player is obviously better than past player.” How many videos have we seen of people surprised that Bird was actually one of the best, because he doesn’t seem like someone who would have had Instagram highlight reels?
He shouldn’t have, this isn’t really even controversial. Everybody thinks it’s Steph who change the game on the range of the three-pointer, nope, it was logo Lillard.
Dame isn't Jrue. Dame hasn't won anything and can't defend
Dame hasn't won anything? What the heck does THAT have to do with anything?
He got exposed now that he has to play defense
@@jonhohensee3258has a lot to do with it… he’s never been proven when it’s a defensive game. He always been out west just chucking shots up and not worried about defense. I loved dame in Portland but he was never perfect. His shot selection is horrible too
@@cvgodd1432 Yep. People kept comparing Dame to Curry. But you know your defense is piss poor when even Curry is a better (team) defender than you are. And on offence, Dame just doesn't move well away from the ball. He stands there like he doesn't know what to do or where to be. It's almost as if Dame thinks basketball is 5 one on one matches that just happen to be on the same court. On the other hand, Curry is always moving and making defenses work really hard. I think casuals are confused; maybe they don't actually watch the games?
@@jonhohensee3258he has been in 1 WCF and never been in a NBA finals. He’s had a great team that was a top 6 in the west for a few seasons but couldn’t get past the 1st & 2nd rounds even when being a top seeded team.
Man was always overrated. It's more obvious now because he's not on the Trail Blazers anymore.
What a bullshit take
Also blazers weren’t good they also made cj look like a super star lol
Cj is nice but you know what I mean.
Fans loves to build a athlete up and then tear them down.Dame and Russell Wilson are great examples.Both new fan bases stated we are going to win a chip and within 2 months both fan bases states they are bums.
@@TheDuke4100 really? Then prove me wrong or be quiet.
@@sulwhale3171 yeah true that. Both guys are getting exposed now that they're not in Portland anymore.
The sad part about all of this is if Milwaukee players actually matched Giannis energy and consistency every night Milwaukee can be a legit threat & I know blaming Doc is the easiest option here but Milwaukee has looked better defensively since he was hired however offensively Giannis can’t be the only guy showing up on that end consistently
When Adrian Griffin was fired, the Bucks were 2nd in the East but also 2nd overall in the NBA lol. Now they’re like 3 games away from being the 8th seed in the east.
Saying Dame is better than Ray Allen is foul lol
He definitely is.
@@morganlee2806nahhh
Allen played defense. Its a thing
They have two kind of responsibility. Not a fair comparison. Let me see about Damien Lillard and Damon and Damon Stodemire!..
As a buck dame is better than
People and/or fans are stupid! People believe that Dame was supposed to just come in and start scoring like he did with the Blazers. There is a thing called "Gel" or "Gelling". Dame still has to find his way and gel, mesh, etc with the team. The problem comes in with the random coaching changes. They started with a coach the organization seem to not want but, was winning. Now, you go from winning with a coach you didn't want, to losing multiple games in a row with a coach the organization wanted, Doc "Choke" Rivers.
100%
It’s clear. He wanted to be with the heat. With his boy jbutler. Maybe he doing this shit on purpose tryna get traded😂😂
The problem is that he didn't want to play for Milwaukee he wanted to come to Miami but was traded there. He is doing just enough to save face there. As a Heat fan, you could keep him because he would have put us over the cap. We don't need someone who shoots wild threes' from half court.
"Mental health is a real factor"
*puts trash across the thumbnail*
both are true
The truth is Dame had always been a good player on a mediocre team, absolutely not a star or a game changer ... so it's really no surprise
Finally someone says it. Dame’s good, even all star level, but the mega superstar he was looking like was not him. He was looking like Micheal carter Williams in his sixers days. Empty stats and going nowhere.
Now that he’s in a winning situation on a team has championship goals, with the scope on him, his flaws are getting highlighted even more. Like Russ on the lakers.
Nothing is wrong with dame, this is just him. I’m still surprised They let someone who isn’t that good and hasn’t done much into the nba top 75 of all time.
I bet we could probably name a dozen better for his spot.
100% facts never understood the dame hype
Wow I don't even believe they let Dame on there!
@@raffpants618 not as overhyped as dame
That top 75 of his looks like a joke right now. I can think of at least 3 players who has a stronger case than him but snubbed out of that top75
Man I hope Dame gets better during the all star break 😢
As a Celts fan they should have kept Holiday instead of the big trade. He’s been absolutely fantastic & steady this year.
1st round exit with holiday
@@trelllmaoyessir he won a championship as a key player
@@Snatch-rb3ft I think Jrue fits Celtics better than Bucks cause the Bucks needs another scorer. Thing is they lost both defense and offense cause Dame is absent in defense and hasn't produced much in offense. It seems it only works when he has the ball in his hands like in Portland and even there, they kept getting swept. He's just not that guy people painted him to be.
@@justswimmin idk why you reply to me but i agree with you
As a Heat fan,I'm happy we dodged a bullet, we have Herro he's as good as him rn maybe more efficient and better at D rn
Dame has always been this player, only thing is he had all the freedom to jack up about any shot he felt like, that didn't win Portland nothing. What was everyone expecting??
He had his best season statistically LAST SEASON. Speak facts or don't speak at all.
@samueljlarson best season or not Dame has never won nothing but some playoffs rounds against average teams. That's facts.
Agreed
@@momopouye Yes, he stayed in Portland when he probably should have left if he seriously wanted to compete for a title. I think he has a different measure of success though than sports media/average fans do.
I BELIEVE. He is going thru so many personal issues, on top of being injured him and khris. Let them be consistently healthy, and I can almost assure you they’ll have a really hard time losing in a 7 game series!
True. I heard he is going through a pretty nasty divorce too
@@jahkrmusic exactly, so his kids haven’t always been with him and he ain’t know they truly safe if they are all the way in Portland, so he’s genuinely got so much going on
@@adamsecord9943 Agreed. I honestly wrote this season off for the Bucks. They just have too much going on. Even Coach Buds firing came from his brother dying in a car crash. They literally had to let him go to grieve.
Dame isn’t the offensive player we thought he was. He’s not like harden who can anchor an offense and always elevate his team
Exactly most can’t comprehend this
He’s not even a Shooter like Steph or a shot creator like Kyrie
He’s extremely overrated
Westbrook better
Dame makes NOBODY better.
@@cameronpowe7257 facts I rather have Russ
@@Magproductions98 ong
This is why it made more sense for him to be on the heat since they can just run the offense through him as the 1st option. Jimmy doesn’t mind this and is only the 1st option by necessity. With Giannis, dame has to learn how to not have the ball 24/7 and actually attempt to play defense. I do believe he’ll be able to adjust in the second half but honestly it looks a bit too awkward halfway in. 😅
Although, Damian is being a professional about it. Let’s be clear, he does not want to play for Milwaukee.
I appreciate this video man. Didn’t even know he was going thru it. Hoping Dame gets his swag back
😂 Now apparently everyone in the comments section thinks he was just overrated and they've thought that way the whole time. They all knew this wouldn't work out. They knew his shooting percentages would plummet despite having more open looks. Everyone's a genius with hindsight.
@@DefyANT__1 Yeah, I don't agree with you at all on any of that, but thanks for commenting.
@@DefyANT__1 There's no evidence, nor will there ever be, to support that the 2021 run was a fluke because it's a 100% subjective argument. Giannis is the best player in the game after Jokic. He's proven it.
Casuals probably needed hindsight but anybody that know basketball know he been overated he been one of the worst defensive pg in the league his entire career,shot 40% from 3 once in his entire career ,never averaged a fg% over 46% in his career, and blew 3 17+ leads in a row to get swept by gsw but ppl seem to think he never had a good enough team or a legit chance to beat gsw but he did in 2019 and he choked it away and was one of the worst players on his team and the reason they lost
No.
We just watch basketball objectively.
Instead of pretending they're deities.
Bucks were a good Unit who needed to only make minor changes to improve and yet they hijacked the move of Miami Heat whose offensive setup revolves around guards like Damian Lillard. In the process, they indirectly senr Jrue Holiday to contender in Celtics sabotaging Heat and themselves.
Bucks don’t have defensive system which masks the defensive lapses of guards like Heat’s system. They also don’t have players to do that like Bam, Butler, Caleb etc and most important their zone.
They needed YOUTH!!!
They got an old bad defender.
My opinion: The Bucks are not as good as previous years because the ball is not always in Giannis’s hand. And having the ball in Giannis’s hand is more dangerous than in Lillard’s.
The thing is that in Portland, the ball almost always had to be in Dame’s hand. He never had to play that much off-ball. Going from having the ball all the time to not having to do that is a big change.
And then, he isn’t a good defender. The Bucks didn’t need a Lillard, Jrue was the perfect PG for the Bucks. Bucks needed to fix defensive scheme, not the players. With Dame not being a good defender, it makes other Bucks players have to put more effort on the defensive end.
I was watching the Bucks game against the Jazz recently, and I was thinking that they were hitting tougher shots than they needed to, and the Bucks were getting away, until the 4th quarter, with the defense they played. The Jazz was just missing a lot of shots that should have been buckets. That 4th quarter choke is no accident.
Bucks issue was offense though…. Only giannis was able to score and he wasn’t very efficient cause there weren’t really other shooters around him like that.
I think we needed one more season as a group with giannis jrue and khris back healthy.
Yes the Bucks needed a reliable second scoring option. Middleton is too injury prone nowadays. Brook and Jrue were too inconsistent, especially come playoff time. So they needed another elite scorer to take the offensive load off Giannis. The problem is that Dame has been playing like crap this season and sucks at defense. Jrue looks much better on the Celtics because he's got 4 other starters who can consistently get 20+ a night while he can just focus on defense.
@@elizaschaeffer34 If you mean mid-range or 3pt shooting, then yes. But Giannis has been averaging 60% or higher in overall FGs this season and past seasons.
@@CCEkeke I meant last season. Last season he wasn’t very efficient and neither was anybody else.
This season he’s crazy efficient and his teammates still kinda lay bricks all night for whatever reason. They’re bricking wide open shots. Either her shoots through 2-3 defenders for a bucket or he passes for a wide open 3 which typically gets bricked
@@elizaschaeffer34 Yeah I can agree there. He's now sharing more with Dame and trying to get other teammates involved via assists. Unfortunately, the Bucks besides Giannis just suck now.
dame has never played championship ball, including a handful of playoffs... he needs to learn to play defense
In general , small guards don’t just up and ….. “learn to play defense” going into their 12th season or whatever in the NBA .
He is what he is.
@@pushsliceA MAN CAN DREAM
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@@pushslice then he should be traded ... front office did not scout him well then.. he obviously doen't want a ring.
The problem with Damian Lillard is that he's used to having the ball in his hand. He first started the season he had two big men in Portland. After they left he was the team. Damian Lillard is now with Giannis in Milwaukee he have to get to use to playing Team Ball but Giannis have to learn how to do the picking rolls and post players for Damian Lillard can play better
He needs to take this off season to re focus on his fitness and health.
Stuff off the court has definitely played a factor for him this year though.
I don’t want to say he’s washed, he still looks like he’s in great shape. It’s simply just a bad season. Steph in 21-22 shot 43,38,92. It’s a new team, by the time playoffs come he’ll be better.
-btw I don’t see them still winning a championship this season.
Steph's absolute worst shooting season is better than Dame's career average lol
@@maartilium I’m aware, Steph’s a better player than dame lol. I’m just using his rough season as an example.
Steph the best player on his team tho getting all the defensive attention dame a sidekick seeing far less defensive attention so it's levels and Steph actually get steals something dame rarely gets so its not the same
@@maartilium lol exactly it's horrible when they try to compare them dame just don't compare
@@peezydabeatmonster8112 dame is literally averaging more steals than Steph. I’m saying Players sometimes have a bad season even the great Steph curry has had an off season. I’m not trying to say they’re in the same conversation or anything.
The lack of an actual offensive system, and no sets designed for him.
Hes like "I told yall I didn't wanna leave" 😂😂
Getting rid of Jrue Hoilday was such a huge mistake Middleton was the player they should of traded cause he can’t stay healthy
Idk who thought Dame was gon start playin defense but thats your fault not his. Who tf picks up a 10+ year vet who's never played defense with the expectation that he's gonna start now?! Thats not on Dame imo
He got that divorce and his wife took half of everything…including his skills.
You know us Celtics fans tried to warn you guys about Milwaukee and you guys were talking all that shit about how great Milwaukee was. We tried to tell you they weren’t as good as you thought. 😂
And Boston is the team that couldn't win a championship. All the stacked decks and Boston still losers
@@theetruth8626 to be honest we don’t have to win a championship for another decade or two because we already have 17 of them. At this point we’re just being greedy. How many does Milwaukee have……Oh wait, I forgot that’s a touchy subject for you isn’t it?! 🤣
@@TheGamerFriendsif you don’t win this year it’ll be a huge disappointment and Tatum will become known as the guy that can’t get it done
@@Todd-DaGod-Howard I agree
@@TheGamerFriends if you don’t win y’all should trade Jaylen
Time bro, time passes. Dame's just feelin it 😂
This is the problem with the NBA community. Everything is so hyperbolic and so over exaggerated. How are you gonna call this dude literal trash because he's having one bad year
Putting Lillards face inside of the words “Trash” automatically disqualify you from making basketball content ever again. You could make the same video, without the need for the ridiculous clickbait picture
Dame looks a little heavy and out of shape but maybe it's the uniforms.
Blazer can here and I totally agree.
Crazy how Brooke and Portis is more consistent than Dame. Why are they getting more points than him when he's the pg??? Either he's washed up or needs more time, but he needs to get it together 👏because the only thing saving his career right now is them freethrows. Smh DISSAPOINTED.
the guy didn't want it to be there in the first place...that trade was a big mistake..they should have stayed with holiday and looked for another PF..or a center ...Boston saw how the Nuggets defeated the heat with their big man and went to the market for the best big man available
When you said Dame is better than Ray Allen that's when all credibility is flushed down the drain, my goodness I'll tell you Dame's having problem with Lopez attitude of not trusting him.
People are crazy if they think griffin was gonna get them to the promised land. I'm from Milwaukee and watch literally every game and AG was horrible. There hasn't been one time he tried arguing with the ref or showed passion for the game. He didn't make any adjustment during any part of any game. Giannis and dame are getting older, they have no time to waste so they fired him and went and got doc. I'm highly invested in the Bucks so I'm not as mad about the pick up as other people are. Doc has to come in and make some corrections so that's why it's looking sloppy at first. I promise you guy, anybody woulda been better than AG.
You’re right but I wouldn’t trust Doc that much either. He’s like AG when it comes the playoffs. He’s had nothing but talented teams to work with over the years and he can only hang his hat on one championship almost 20 years ago
I don’t think Dame is happy in Milwaukee. He and Brooke Lopez always look upset with eachother. He’s been so comfortable in Portland it probably just feels way different to him,
I think it’s just unfortunate circumstances and they may be able to push through it and compete throughout these final 25+ games & wherever they can get in the playoffs
I think before the season started after the trade went down i believe i heard a interview with him with the Milwaukee Media he quoted this was his first time in his career he felt small when i heard that i new right there it wasn't going to work but aye the season isn't over let me see what happens
The reason why the bucks aren’t playing good is because Lopez and Portis be acting like they are shooters lol
100%
Excusing his trash play because he’s Dame and because he’s a good dude and because he went through a lot in Portland lmao gtfoh dude wanted a better opportunity, got it and is folding like a lawn chair. Also Giannis is a prima Donna so I’m sure that doesn’t help
😂😅 yall need to give it time. This is too much.
your19 ?!!! this is crazy fam , good work stay motivated I love your insight when you break down vids its quiet impressive!
thank you my brother🖤
The problem is people had a skewed idea of how good he was. The media would cover when he had a scoring outburst on the trailblazers.if he had a bad game you would never hear about it. He’s a good shooter (sometimes) bad defender average finisher..who doesn’t pass
Dame demands a trade to a contender.... gets traded to a contender and now hes not tryin? One of the most overrated players of the generation.
A woman , that's what is happening to him .
He's in a divorce procedure so it makes sense that the man isn't focused
Or it could be this is the first time he is playing with expectations to win a chip and he ain't built for it. It a different monster putting up buckets on a bad to average team than it is putting up buckets on a team with championship expectations who gets other team's best every night.
Divorce takes a toll on your whole life trust me DONT FORGET WHO DAME IS
Dame isn't even a good shooter. He shot under 38% 9 seasons and under 35% 3 seasons. Hes more lile a James Harden
I think Damian Lillard' style of play doesn't fit Milwaukee. I think he should adjust and become more Russ Westbrook and less Steph Curry.😎
I've never been apart of the group who thought Dame was any more than he is or that it was ALL on the Blazers, but this is rough.
His stats dont tell the whole story. You've got to see them playing to grasp how bad he's been.
I think it's probably the change in his personal life with a divorce. I hope he's able to find a balance and look a little more like the Dame we thought he could be on this team.
He's probably on the decline in general. He's a rhythm shooter so not having the ball in his hands all the time contributes, but that ain't the whole deal. His shooting percentage still shouldn't fall off a cliff in a scenario where he's getting more open looks than ever. I think his mind has (understandably) been elsewhere, and at this stage of his career it's unlikely that he's gonna get it back.
He cant take the pressure. Example: The Olympics.
It's not age with Lillard. Lillard's speed, quickness, and athleticism isn't diminished. I don't think he's comfortable in his role, and probably feels pressure of the expectations. The Bucks have been a top 3 seed in the East with championship expectations, fired their championship coach, traded for Dame, and now fired their new coach mid season, with the second best record not only in the East, but in the league at the time. The Bucks had the easiest schedule and struggled to beat bad teams. The point being, Dame will never have an excuse for not winning a title. Failure harms not only his legacy, but Giannis legacy as well. Maybe his ex said that's why you're never going to win a chip, and he's got that pressure too😂 The other part, about his role is this. I remember when I used to hoop locked up, that I played pretty well when I perceived myself to be the best player on the team. Usually multiple courts and games, the better hoopers would see me killing it and pick me up. I'd still usually grab boards, but my shot would be off and I'd be second guessing what I'm doing because I know there's better scorers. Just to say that Dame's under a lot of pressure, and him not being the best player on the team may be affecting his play. I'd try to stagger their minutes as much as possible. If they're both playing 35, I'd try to create a situation where they're only on the court together 22 minutes. Creating the most opportunities for each to lead the team offensively. When Dame's out for 13 of Giannis minutes we got Pat Bev. When Giannis is out for 13 of Dame's minutes Brook and Bobby are capable. Brook has to be respected by that three point line which opens up lanes for Dame. The Bucks need to think about it as a 3 look team, with 3 different systems of offense and defense. Dame and Giannis, Giannis without Dame, and Dame without Giannis. Start with one, move to the next, and the following, and whatever one is working the best on a given night is what you lean on.
At the end of the day, dame was never in a situation where he was expected to win. In Portland, when they win it’s dame time, when they lose it’s his teammates not playing d. Playing in a franchise where you are expected to win every night is where great players shine and until he has done it, shouldn’t be placed on the same echelon as the superstars who played through that kind of pressure. Chucking up shots and playing 0 defence can only get you that far.
Its the coaching and sets for Damian Lillard under Terry Stotts in Portland he was killing because of the freelance offense.
It's obvious what the Bucks issue is. They are disconnected on and off the court. Blame Griffin, Doc, the players or whoever u want but they're just not playing together
Maybe it’s the concussion from the slap at the 30s mark
Dude doesn’t immediately perform his best after massive change in his life 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
Good video, but I've got to disagree with you that Dame is "obviously better" than Ray Allen in his prime. Ray was clutch and has championships.
Has Dame ever been on NBA Finals team? NO. So why are we expecting more of him. He’s above average but we give him MVP level treatment when he’s never been a top 3. He a really an all star level player but seriously he doesn’t meet expectations that people have for him.
or can we just stop expecting such instant results???? the main problem with society these days. let them figure it out. it might be this season or it might not be. or it might be the next season or so on. this instant result expectations are getting out of hand
Quite simply, the homie doesn’t wanna be there. Miami was his preferred destination but joe Cronin wanted to be a jackass, so here we are lol
Heat’s offer for Dame was trash, and I still stand to this day that it is. Like, does Portland need another guard in Herro when they already have multiple young ones like Simmons, Henderson, and Sharpe for the future?! Pat Riley gotta do better than that. And even if he does end up in South Beach, this performance he is putting up here in Milwaukee will probably shift there
@@fbcorpuz7441 yes, because that deal has worked out so well for Portland lol. The best player Portland received from that deal, ayton, has been absolute dog feces. Herro is a lot of things, and one of them is being a 21 ppg scorer on a team with 2 other 20 ppg scorers, whereas Portland only has Simons and grant cracking 20. At the very least, herro would’ve been far more helpful to Portland then Ayton has been. Portland isn’t even going to really benefit from that trade until 5 years from now, when they can use those 1sts. I highly doubt Cronin will still have a job by then. Riley could’ve done better, but so could have Portland. Instead they settled on a trade with the only other team even willing to entertain the thought and now all parties suck b/c of it. Well, except jrue 😂😂.
You may be right about dame, but Miami has the infrastructure to mask his defensive issues, Milwaukee doesn’t. So the production Miami would’ve gotten from dame would’ve been far more impactful then what he’s giving Milwaukee. But hey, I’m not complaining, Portland’s gonna be in the gutter for the next 2-3 years AND Milwaukee is on the decline. The main threat to miamis return to the finals is Boston. So I’m good lol
Dame so nice we see him averaging 25 a game and act like he playin like jordan poole
Thats the thing .......HES JUST A SCORER.... at what point in his career has been at least an above average "team defender"....... his defensive short comings has been overloooked his WHOLE career.... hes still get you a bucket
subbed out of respect for your respect the mental health aspect take of going through divorce for dame.
Reason i think is chemistry it takes time to develop tram chemistry
The Doc Rivers move 😂😂just added more problems.
Lillard has proven time and time again that he is not a championship calibre player. He produces some highlights here and there but not enough to carry a team to the top.
Look at what Dame does once he gives up the ball, compared to what Steph does.
They are on completely different levels, or planets.
When Steph gives up the ball, that’s actually a DANGER!DANGER! siren to the defense. with Dame, it’s a great opportunity to reallocate his defender into a double-team.
Small guards have short shelf lives.
Kemba, both Isaiah Thomases, earl boykins, spud webb, etc...dude is getting old....
Dame is also one on the worse defenders in the leagie, which is usually an effort stat.
Sadly I think it's becoming horrifically clear that swapping Jrue for Dame hasn't panned out. When Jrue came to Milwaukee and got the big contract, I remember this video moment where before signing he looked at the camera with a smile and said "I'm a buck for life". And dude meant it. But it was much more. He didn't just play for the team, he became a leader and fit in perfectly with Khris, Giannis and Brook. And more than that Jrue and his wife became super involved and invested in the community. You could tell he was wounded by being traded. And it wounded most Bucks fans too. And now, looking back, it's even more painful. Because the team wasn't broken. The team thrived on inconsistency, which was frustrating to watch but also made them unpredictable. Now? Now this team is just not good. Defense is shit. Offense is myopic. Giannis is clearly disgruntled. Dame is no longer in a system where he can just ball out. it's just sad, man....... but I'm grateful Bucks managed to win a ring. For that I'll be forever happy.
Dane dealing with a divorce and fighting for his kid. Really put into perspective what the fuck kobe was doing drop 40 pts a game when he had the rape trial going. Man was one of one
I’ve watched almost every game from the bucks and imo dames biggest problem is he’s not getting the calls he’s used to getting in Portland he used those free throws to establish his rhythm since he’s playing with Giannis the refs can’t give both of them superstar calls
The Bucks panicked after losing to 8th seed Heat in playoffs.
Fired champion coach and when the Heat were about to get Lillard the Bucks said hell nah we got to stop the Heat and steal Lillard.
Nice content bro
A coach who wouldn’t succeed in high school and a guard who can’t pass or play d
I hold same expectations like Russ left as well as Damien Lillard went to the Bucks. Same Expectations! I wish him luck but apparently he’s doing worse in Milwaukee than in Portland.
Doc was a consultant for the team, he didn't have to take the job. He wanted a coaching job again and it fucked him.
Bingo! Dam is not even a playmaker on Harden's level! Harden can average double assist in reg season, just doesn't want expectations in playoffs.
Grass always greener huh Dame ? 😂😂😂😂
He may even been hiding an injury bc of team expectations
This is nothing compared to russ or harden. Dame has been slightly below expectations and he can be better but the way russ played with LeBron and Ad is inexcusable.
They been struggling ever since they fired their coach.
No. The big reason is the easiest schudle with Griffin and now a hard part with Doc.
You think just putting. Superstars together. Winning is automatic. You underestimate the greatness of LBJ
He is going through a divorce