Andy Gray Reveals He 'Considered Taking His Own Life' Over Sky Sports Sacking
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- čas přidán 27. 11. 2022
- Andy Gray and Richard Keys were sacked by Sky Sports in 2011 after footage of them making sexist comments was leaked. Now, over a decade later, they open up to Piers Morgan about how the scandal affected them, with Andy saying he even considered taking his own life.
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Richard Keys’ transformation into an adult Hasbulla is tremendous
🤔🤣
Hahahaha
Absolute shout. Underrated comment.
Such a top tier comment hahaha
Haha
Andy Gray was the best premier league commentator. His voice and enthusiasm was legendary.
Iconic voice.
Miss that voice
We've missed out on so many great matches that grays voice would have made better
Take a bow Son
His analysis was excellent as well. He would point out things I genuinely wouldn't have spotted, whereas most modern commentators just repeat what we can already see on screen.
These guys made a very good impression of themselves. as a kid i grew up watching these and listening to them on TV and on GAMES - nice to see they have remorse and easy to see that what they endured was a massive over reaction.
Yes everyone over reacted but I have always loved these 2 but they’re loving time in Qatar
They let Jamie Caragher stay after spitting on a little girl.
Viewing figures trumped good values. Unbelievable any kept a job in the public eye after spitting at someone. Provoked or not. Always a BINDIPPER
respect other cultures banter
Ye but there was alot more to it though. The guy who's daughter it was had been harassing him for ages
Little girl ? Knobhead
@@jamestaylor841 no she hadn’t
Andy Gray is the BEST football commentator of all time! I still recall him applauding Pires when he chipped Schmeical. ‘I’m sorry, that’s genius’
“Tekka bow son”
Yep. It’s about time these British media companies got over themselves. BT sport need to employ him. Everyone deserves a second chance
Andy Gray & Martin Tyler, what a team!!!
i'm sorry, that's banter
Take a bow son.
No time for Keys, but Andy along with Martin Tyler best commentators we've ever had. Super Sundays & Monday Night football were never the same
Great to see these both ! Legends … I always thought they were made an example out of when they got cancelled over a couple of jokes .
When you consider the fact Sky gave Carragher a second chance after spitting in a childs face, then yes, these two should have been given a second chance as well. But we all know Sky leaked the footage intentionally because they wanted an excuse to freshen up the presenters
Carragher didn't spit in a child's face you moron, he spat at a car and whilst this was also a disgusting act it was no near the level that you accuse him of.
Well according to sky no such thing happened so end off
@@Dollarg11111 well of course they said that ...
So you take is “they should rehire those other two c*nts because carragher spat in a child’s face”
Can you not see how that’s a logical clusterf*ck of an opinion.
@@Sirjohnfootball My opinion is after 20 years of service, they deserved a second chance, but they weren’t going to get it because Sky intentionally leaked the footage for grounds to sack them. The fact they didn’t sack Carragher for what he did proves that Sky do give second chances when they want to.
That clip of them laughing at the women's blunder after blunder is one of the funniest things of all time
Top "banter" for sure
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This ones good too
I laughed just as much as I have at some absolutely hilarious howlers in thr men's game. Funny is funny.
banter after blunder!
Why does Piers always seem to stumble upon these masterpiece of an interview. THIS WAS BRILLIANT!
Andy is a really likeable guy. He deserves a second chance. Was a great commentator. Sadly can’t see our super PC woke media ever employing him again. They too worried about the backlash
You have to take the best of piers with his worst. I used to dislike some things about his work but I’m more open to a lot of his work these days
Because he goes to people the woke community don't like.
have you had an accident at work? did you stumble in to a masterpiece of an interview and the only thing your boss could say was BANTER?
Morgan is and always was a Wanker always afraid of his own shadow always runs away from anyone that challenges him a Wanker to the end.
And thanks to you guys for being so brave and honest and willing to talk. Impressive. The world has become too harsh and here is a great insight into just that.
No they was just a pair of dickheads. Keys still cant take responsibility
Agree
Harsh? What planet are you living on. 😂
Lol you realise this is all for Saudi oil
@@Jonontoast richard keys woe is me
Brilliant interview. I’m glad the lads are doing well. People are kept to unrealistic expectations by a media that nobody likes or respects. Common sense is well and truly out the window.
I mean doing their job by not being sexist isn’t unrealistic
They did get shafted
@@stevenhughes6903 was a joke u never had a joke
@@stevenfinch9026 ‘it was just bantaaa’
Can't support a bloke who was shagging his daughters friend behind his wifes back ngl.
Enjoyed this interview, up-front and candid from both Andy Gray & Richard Keys. Most people would be absolutely mortified if their off-air comments were revealed, its usually in-the-moment stuff and not at all a true reflection of a person/persons and that goes for every walks of life. Critics should bear in mind that we all have flaws and its just plain wrong to hound others for silly mistakes. The effects on mental health is enormous and clearly evident these days on the sad passing of many TV personalities who just couldn't cope. Dearest Richard, empty out that back pocket of anger, come on, you deserve much better than carrying that around for all these years, release it out to the Universe...
Much love to Andy & Richard and keep up the good work 💓💓
wherw can i find full interview
I really like them. I enjoy watching their coverage and analysis. And I honestly didn’t know about this incident they had until now.
It’s baffling to me that someone could go through all of this hell just for cracking a joke, much less a joke that’s based in reality. We mock male refs all the time.. so all of that was just bcuz she was a female assistant? How does that make any sense? How is that fair? So sorry for what you had to do through guys. I’m truly happy you’ve bounced back and doing great now. Keep up the great work🍺
And also thanks Pierce for doing this
Good interview Piers, I always liked Keys and Gray on Sky Sports. They were brilliant on it. Good to see they are doing well.
Loved these two guys on Sundays , they made a mistake , they sincerely apologised in a time that was very different from today’s and I believe they should have got a second chance .
They made lots of "mistakes" over a period of years.
Glad you interviewed them Piers. I’ve been watching them all my life when they got cancelled I moved abroad and I’ve been watching them in my local in Portugal now for years. 🙌
Watch them on my fire stick lol
Gotta Love Keys and Gray, my football watching childhood shame it was blown out of proportion. Good luck to them, always watch them on TV when in Dubai
I watched them every time I’m in Dubai.. never been
agreed, love their gulf-based banter
if you watch and listen to their comments you'd realise it wasn't blown out of proportion. Richard Keys is disgusting towards women and that kind of behaviour can't flourish in the modern world of broadcasting. It just can't.
@@jonnygibs77 modern world needs modern banter
@@jonnygibs77 yawn. soyboy
Not the interview I expected. Great job.
Throughout all the gossip scandals and media you stop and realise these are also people with feelings just like the rest of us. Thank you Piers for this overdue interview. Andy Gray and Martin Tyler in my book still the best combo commentary esp those Barclays Super Sunday. Its a shame a nation cannot forgive their treatment was very harsh suspension and maybe fine yes but the world is a scary place when you are in the lime light. I mean how many of us have said far worse things behind even our friends and family's back? This is just because they were famous the punishment just has to 'make a statement'. I still replay Andy's commentary from back in the good old days coz he's just one of the best. I'm glad these wonderful funny and charismatic men managed to start over in Qatar qnd grateful for Andy's wife she's great for being his rock listening to Andy saying he contemplated suicide makes me so sad. I hope one day you both can return. Love you Andy!!😍😍
Miss Andy Gray on Fifa commentary.
he was bants, wasn't he
Definately legend commentator both Fifa and all round. That fire and passion second to none!
Good interview. The way these guys were hounded out of a job for a private conversation was disgusting, I’m glad they are doing well today m good luck to them both.
if only there was the same interest in searching for BANTER the world would be a better place
Qatar helped them when their own country abandoned them 😢
@@bilal5398rightly so the pair of 🔔 🔚
They were at work.
But for Gray it wasn't for a private conversation.
Two GOAT's of the game!... Sky has never been the same.
I miss these fella’s brings back so much nostalgia just hearing from them again!
They both come across very well, everyone makes mistakes, they have learned from their mistakes. They will always be the best SKY presenters.
their banter is sky high for sure
Keys is a shocking presenter
@@Mr___X keys is a slimy toad they both think women love them ,only thing the woman like is there monies ,horrible men
That said anyone who runs off with his best friends wife after being best man at their wedding is not a great person
@@mikedon5205 learned from their mistakes
Richard and Andy have done well for themselves and didn't deserve that sort of treatment because of a comment or banter. They're still excellent at what they do and yes many of us are sick of the cancel culture, so well done Piers for that interview.
yes well done BANTER
It’s Keyes now not Richard
They definitely did deserve it.
They did deserve it. And they wouldn’t get away with it now.
Pair of dicks.! Deserved everything they got.
These two were the best, made a mistake but don't think they deserved the sack at that time. My fav Andy Gray quote..."Take a Bow Son"...legendary
I remember that saying so well when Di Canio hit that volley. Tyler and Gray the best commentary team ever with Keys in the studio.
Watched Andy Gray play for Everton as a child. So sorry for the crazy stuff and judgements he endured and so glad you have put it behind you. All the very best.
I really hope Sky Sports and the judges hear this and see the harm their silly judgements cause.
Sky's never been the same since these 2 were removed. But they were spot on in this interview.
You're right, it got better
re-education campaigns every month on the host population, or banter? hmmm, which one to pick...tricky, tricky.
Ridiculous comment.
Guys you are the greatest, please remain where you are doing what you are doing, it’s difficult to watch and enjoy and understand the game without your priceless presence on the screen
🙄
I grew up listening to Andy gray commentary in the premier league One of the best
Great interview and insight. Gray and Keys were hung out to dry by Sky at the time. Good to see them still together, doing what they love, and doing well.
I live in Lebanon, and while everybody I know prefers to watch arabic commentary, I always find myself watching Keys and Andy on Bein, their commentary is second to none.
...and banter is their message
@@Mr___X get a life
@@kb24theMVP banter is life
Why they are not on Comentarty in World cup In bein sport 3 max
@@Mr___X your a fud.
No one on sky sports compare to these 2 legends 🔥
Amen to that.
What a pair of pricks.
Both vile humans sadly
Jeff and the gang are waaaaaay better than these two idiots.
@@jad3517 Of course you did, Bob, 😅
Andy Gray was the staple of commentary back in the day he was great new world killing everything
Great to hear this interview. The honesty is welcoming. They never deserved the treatment they were given by the repulsive English press.
"Dinosaurs ruled the world for 300 million years so don't be afraid to be called one" loved that reply😂
bantersaurous rex!
@@Mr___X insultasuaures
Great interview - an element of structure, but also just 3 blokes having a conversation
3 blokes being guys being dudes, sharing banter
Peirs Morgan landing great interviews one after another, great work
I have to say it’s a fantastic interview they admit their wrong doing and anyone who admits they are wrong is forgiven in my book 🤙
Great interview again Piers 👍🏻 Lots of success for you, you deserve it 🔥☝️
emoji emoji emoji banter
When Richard keys and Andy gray was on sky it was the best for me, how Jamie spat at a fan and was still allowed on air is shocking
Fuck knows how he got away with that.
@@csdvideouk I know man can remmeber the sky news when that came out about Andy it was like he was scum turned on him instantly, when Jamie did that he had his little apology with Neville and everything was forgotten about disgusting
Plus jamie was giving hand signs to rival fans in a service station, can't stand that horrible Scouser
@@richardevans7035 now now.. He's the best on TV now that Andy is gone
@@edmundpower1250 no Roy Keane is mate
Bring them back!! Great tone and control over their voice, commenting legends
Two legends of the commentary! I remember playing Fifa '97 & the commentary was always one to remember! #BeinSports 👍
Really good interview Piers, great insight 👍
great banter, too
Do miss these two, they were the first casualties of cancel culture
I do miss Gray and keys. I can't see them coming back to the UK to cover Football but hopefully one day.
Imagine bt sport hired them ha it would be such a middle finger to sky
@@conorsmith8551 I like Amazon coverage of the premier league and i'm hoping eventually they will overtake Sky and screen all the games.
Top interview. Loved these two on Sky and even Talksport. Everyone makes mistakes and good to see they are enjoying life.
What did they do?
@@tonykivanc made one sexist comment off air about the new lines woman
Go round there any day of the week youll see jamie hanging out the back of it
@@callumrowley9810 shagged his daughters friend when his wife was dying. Totally a respectable man 😂
@@HighNLo I never mentioned anything about respecting the man or owt 🤣
Great interview. Well done
A really a great interview !!
I am from Australia, so don't know these two guys, BUT IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL INTERVIEW. Sad ...... But happy to see where they are NOW - GREAT INTERVIEW Piers
sad, happy...BANTER
They were the FACES of Sky Sports, from 1993 to 2002 and were the best
Keys had an affair with his daughters friend whilst his wife had cancer. Lovely bloke
@@ActiveArrongood man. You take one situation. Take it as full story. And bang. You’re the lovely bloke
@@BridgeStamford so your condoning a man cheating on a wife with cancer with his child’s best friend? I’m not sure on your logic or morals trying to defend that 🤣
Fantastic interview piers. Loving this channel
loving the top banter
brilliant interview..Great guys.
Two sky sports legends ! There will never be two as good as them !!
I can’t believe it’s been ten years. Wow. Time flies!
time flies when you're having BANTER
90 percent of guys at the time we’re making the same comments about a female involved in refereeing a match. They made a mistake it’s been 10 years. They were great to watch growing up and loved Andy on the early fifa games
a mistake, or just witty banter?
Brilliant interview, touching, really
Great scoop piers. Very interesting to hear what Keyes and Gray had to say. 👍
Bringing back all the good football moments Piers. Good on you for this. Please get all the old players out of retirement to speak
not-how-it-used-to-be-bants
Damn, I had no idea it affected them this much. Sorry they had to endure that. No one can erase their legacy at Sky. Legends
no one can erase the memories of banter, i agree. top bants.
This is what the media do. Including Piers. They kill people.
A true friend is one that walks in,when the rest of the world walk out....great interview 😀😀
Did anyone know how it affected the woman who the comments were aimed at? I'm assuming it was a lines woman? Plus a Sky sports presenter at the time? It was a while back but Richard and Andy got on in their careers..
Yes indeed. I once thought about killing me'self, then I played some Leonard Cohen and thought to me'self: "Nah, that's the last thing I should do!
2 legends. Andy is always welcome home in Glasgow 💙
Can honestly say that I love these two, grew up watching them and they still are the best sports commentators ever to be on sky! Think they were stitched up at the time and I’m so glad we weren’t reading that either of them had taken their lives! Both legends! Glad they are doing well!
A proper hit job was done on them disgraceful really.
They made the Sky product what it was
@@pocolol8424 It wasn't though was it. These two thought they were untouchable, and had several warnings about their conduct beforehand. So no they weren't "stiched up"
Rednapp was sat there blanking them. He was in on it.
Is this the full interview or is there more?
Such an insightful interview
Brilliant pair the best we had and then a massive over reaction and then we loose them. Good luck to both of you guys
Two legends !! It’s a pleasure watching them weekly on BeIN Sports ..
No it’s not lol
Two bellends not legends you tool.
Richard keys fucked his daughters best friend while his wife was sick.. he is not legendary in the slightest..
GENTLEMEN💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻👍🏻👍🏻Bangin wee honest interview !!!!That back pocket anger is more than just!!!!!!
What a brilliant interview, 3 top blokes
Great interview! Second chances should be given! Watch your fingers though Andy!
exclamation banter!
I still miss them it’s tragic, no one has ever replaced them,
These guys brought a unique element to the game. Insightful and together they did a brilliant job at amplifying the passion of the game through their presenting. Legends
Legends? 🤣
Unique element is a phrase that really needs unpacking.
Mutual masturbation. lol
Old farts
dark..memer. couldn't agree more. 👍
Well done guys for being so truthful. Congratulations on your success in Qatar and it's opened my eyes on the country
Well done Piers! Great interview, hearing their voices was nostalgic. Good to see them doing well.
I thought sky wanted them out and saw an opportunity when this all happened. What was worse what they said or what Carragher did to the young girl. He keeps his job they get sacked.
Eggs & Bacon, Peas & Carrots, Keys & Gray! Love & miss those two, come home guys, Morgan you can stay there! 😂 ⚽️⚽️
don't forget Banter & Banter est. 1992!
Great interview. Keys smashed it!
Legends they made the premiership what it is pure box office great tag team they deserved a second chance and they were hung out dry.As a kid I grew up watching these two and now 44 me and my mates still say they were the best I hope they comeback to the UK.
Totally it was all over them wanting more money sky set them up
The reason that this is very likely not a 'sackable offence' might be, to take a slightly circuitous route which isn't as controversial as it may at first seem, because it is merely a fact that women think more emotionally and men think more analytically (a University of Cambridge study of over half a million samples has proved what most people know instinctively)
This means that many of the old un-pc jokes which men made about women and which women made about men are based on some scientific truths, even if they shouldn't be taken as inexorable fact. Yes, that's right, when women call men narrow thinking, low EQ brutes, there is some basis in fact. But without this, evolution would not have got us very far.
Without the male literal lack of periphery vision but men's great physical strength and high analytical ability, how are you going to bring home a hunted animal which requires so many minute calculations and so much physical power to bring down? Without female high EQ, periphery vision and great sensitivity to the environment, how will the tribe be aware of when something poses a danger to the weaker people, such as children, in the tribe? Evolution and, indeed, the very nature of reality, gave us these traits for good reason.
Now, does this mean women can't learn masculine modes of analysis and men can't learn female high EQ. Of course it can be done. We can all learn from eachother but, of course, those supposedly 'weak' traits were never complete weaknesses in the first place, in the truest sense. Like any good joke, there might be some deeper reflection behind it.
With woke culture, since we can't even discuss the idea that gender exists, the conversation is dead in the water.
In fact, it is important for genders to acknowledge these things. For example, if women tend towards emotionality (which they do) and women are more likely to be anti free speech (which is known to be the case) because they have experienced some pain or trauma, it wouldn't be wrong for women to self reflect on how they can take another person's words less personally and to use that 'colder' part of their brain, protecting themselves from certain types of pain in hearing another's words. Teaching would benefit greatly from this since, as a female dominated field, children are increasingly taking on the ideals of low ability to reflect on anything but pre determined 'correct' ideas. This is the very opposite of what made the Western world successful, so we are talking something really quite serious if we lose this.
Similarly, I have personally seen scenarios where certain female professionals, police officers for example, but there are man, many other such roles, handle situations with far more tact, grace and less aggravation because they (quite literally and scientifically) able to see the periphery and read the fine musculature of another person's face with greater skill than men. This is something men can self reflect on in how they can develop. Women also have various types of endurance which men do not, which men could learn from.
Now, one interesting question is 'were Andy Grays jokes funny under any circumstance and context?' This largely depends because, as suggested, you need the context and context might include the question 'what do these two men think about women, in the entirety of their lives and not just from a segment of them talking?' What would happen if you took a segment of two women talking as close friends in private conversation (we don't want to know tbh). Moreover, do women sometimes like it to be acknowledged that they are emotional brings and does it not make them feel beautiful to acknowledge these great, potent talents just like men sometimes feel proud to offer service to women in a crisis requiring extreme strength (such as one of those rare 'just wars' vs opressors).
In analysing it this way, we might, in the end, conclude that there is room for contextual jokes between the sexes, as long as we realise that modern society allows for many possibilities of expression of talents and psychological modes of being. We might conclude, maybe, that this joke was unnuanced, for sure, since most people, even Andy Gray himself, knows that many women can achieve a high level of analytical skill.
Does Andy Gray need to take some sort of 'bias course' as is the trend of the day? In some ideal world, there might be some course to make us more kind to eachother whilst maintaing our right to speak our minds, but most of that which I have seen is hideous (I saw one questionnaire where 70% of people thought it was racially biased to think a Muslim might not want to attend a hog roast dinner - no bias test will be any use if people are so full of twaddle). It might be better for us to focus on general learning and reading and following the latest ideas on psychology, mindfulness, neuroscience etc.
What PC lacks is proportionality in addressing issues, which is another huge blow to those critical things which made the Western world great.
Even in 1000 years, the sexes will still be like a venn diagram with certain traits being somewhat peculiar to the individual sexes, but with a very large section of our experience being sharable. Things would get boring if this wasn't so, wouldn't they? There will, in 1000 years, still be things we find funny about eachother.
Now, I feel bed for Piers sometimes as a sort of guy wiling to address these topics, where others dare to tread. It is commendable surely. He is in a weird position where he has formally been in various jobs with specific mandates, coming from his bosses, to destroy peoples lives, and now he sees, or perhaps has the everyday common sense to see, that his bosses were wrong and discussion is a far better way to handle these hot topics.
Great stuff wondered what became of these guys
they won the banter world cup
I think Dave Jones has been great since he's been on Sky Sports, and Nev & Carra have been a great pair, but Keys, Gray & Tyler were my footballing childhood. Keys and Gray are gone, and Tyler's been past it for a while now. Shame, but life goes on. All the best to everybody.
nostalgi-banter
Beautiful interview.
I have such mixed views on Piers. Sometimes an ass. Sometimes refreshingly courageous. Mixed. But this may be your best work Piers. I think you have done well here and I certainly thank you for doing this one. Raw. Honest. Interesting. Important. Thank you.
I'm actually becoming a fan of Piers Morgan. I can't believe it!
i'm a fan of banter
Me too
Wow I wasn’t expecting that from Andy in particular.When you have planned it and know the location and method it’s a real threat .Glad he’s ok now .
you should always expect...the banter inquisition!
It sure was a gray day
still miss their commentary. Such a shame what happened
Martin Tyler Andy Gray on commentary and Richard Keys on anchor.That's how I started watching PL in India.Those days Sky pre show was all we got.Very candid chat.
Two legends
I miss Andy and Richard off the telly they were good...take a bow lads ..take a bow in the words of the great Andy Gray 👏
miss them more than david james misses the original playstation - BANTER
glad i watched that so i can see andy and keys in a better light from what i previously thought.
Pleased to see both these guys are doing well, loved it when they were on Sky Sports and as an life long Everton supporter I say thank you Andy Gray
The reason that this is very likely not a 'sackable offence' might be, to take a slightly circuitous route which isn't as controversial as it may at first seem, because it is merely a fact that women think more emotionally and men think more analytically (a University of Cambridge study of over half a million samples has proved what most people know instinctively)
This means that many of the old un-pc jokes which men made about women and which women made about men are based on some scientific truths, even if they shouldn't be taken as inexorable fact. Yes, that's right, when women call men narrow thinking, low EQ brutes, there is some basis in fact. But without this, evolution would not have got us very far.
Without the male literal lack of periphery vision but men's great physical strength and high analytical ability, how are you going to bring home a hunted animal which requires so many minute calculations and so much physical power to bring down? Without female high EQ, periphery vision and great sensitivity to the environment, how will the tribe be aware of when something poses a danger to the weaker people, such as children, in the tribe? Evolution and, indeed, the very nature of reality, gave us these traits for good reason.
Now, does this mean women can't learn masculine modes of analysis and men can't learn female high EQ. Of course it can be done. We can all learn from eachother but, of course, those supposedly 'weak' traits were never complete weaknesses in the first place, in the truest sense. Like any good joke, there might be some deeper reflection behind it.
With woke culture, since we can't even discuss the idea that gender exists, the conversation is dead in the water.
In fact, it is important for genders to acknowledge these things. For example, if women tend towards emotionality (which they do) and women are more likely to be anti free speech (which is known to be the case) because they have experienced some pain or trauma, it wouldn't be wrong for women to self reflect on how they can take another person's words less personally and to use that 'colder' part of their brain, protecting themselves from certain types of pain in hearing another's words. Teaching would benefit greatly from this since, as a female dominated field, children are increasingly taking on the ideals of low ability to reflect on anything but pre determined 'correct' ideas. This is the very opposite of what made the Western world successful, so we are talking something really quite serious if we lose this.
Similarly, I have personally seen scenarios where certain female professionals, police officers for example, but there are man, many other such roles, handle situations with far more tact, grace and less aggravation because they (quite literally and scientifically) able to see the periphery and read the fine musculature of another person's face with greater skill than men. This is something men can self reflect on in how they can develop. Women also have various types of endurance which men do not, which men could learn from.
Now, one interesting question is 'were Andy Grays jokes funny under any circumstance and context?' This largely depends because, as suggested, you need the context and context might include the question 'what do these two men think about women, in the entirety of their lives and not just from a segment of them talking?' What would happen if you took a segment of two women talking as close friends in private conversation (we don't want to know tbh). Moreover, do women sometimes like it to be acknowledged that they are emotional brings and does it not make them feel beautiful to acknowledge these great, potent talents just like men sometimes feel proud to offer service to women in a crisis requiring extreme strength (such as one of those rare 'just wars' vs opressors).
In analysing it this way, we might, in the end, conclude that there is room for contextual jokes between the sexes, as long as we realise that modern society allows for many possibilities of expression of talents and psychological modes of being. We might conclude, maybe, that this joke was unnuanced, for sure, since most people, even Andy Gray himself, knows that many women can achieve a high level of analytical skill.
Does Andy Gray need to take some sort of 'bias course' as is the trend of the day? In some ideal world, there might be some course to make us more kind to eachother whilst maintaing our right to speak our minds, but most of that which I have seen is hideous (I saw one questionnaire where 70% of people thought it was racially biased to think a Muslim might not want to attend a hog roast dinner - no bias test will be any use if people are so full of twaddle). It might be better for us to focus on general learning and reading and following the latest ideas on psychology, mindfulness, neuroscience etc.
What PC lacks is proportionality in addressing issues, which is another huge blow to those critical things which made the Western world great.
Even in 1000 years, the sexes will still be like a venn diagram with certain traits being somewhat peculiar to the individual sexes, but with a very large section of our experience being sharable. Things would get boring if this wasn't so, wouldn't they? There will, in 1000 years, still be things we find funny about eachother.
Now, I feel bed for Piers sometimes as a sort of guy wiling to address these topics, where others dare to tread. It is commendable surely. He is in a weird position where he has formally been in various jobs with specific mandates, coming from his bosses, to destroy peoples lives, and now he sees, or perhaps has the everyday common sense to see, that his bosses were wrong and discussion is a far better way to handle these hot topics.
When France burned Muslim women from wearing hijabs,who came out to fight for them?
hmm, interesting question. we should send the banter brigade to help find the answer.
Next time America have a sporting event I hope we protest their guns laws 🙄 also @piers why don’t you do an interview with Matt le Tissier on why he lost his job on sky sports
that's great banter, james!
I absolutely loved his voice, Gerrard against olympiacos comes to mind
Didn't Keys do an interview on BT Sport in 2013/14? The "it was just banter" interview.
This interview is way better than I expected. I hate cancel culture. People should definitely be allowed second chances.
second chances and second banters
Love how everyone blames 'cancel culture' on hindsight and after hearing a recent version of the story - Nah, they were out of order on multiple and deserved to lose their jobs. They deserved a second chance yes, but were deservedly sacked
You've been brainwashed mate. It was just banter.
@@PaulMorrisseyIRL Shurrup you big girls blouse it’s people like you who have ruined football .
This channel will just grow and grow. Its exactly what it says. Uncensored and interviewing people the left want to fully censor. Well done Piers
metastasize banter
I so miss the duo of Martin Tyler and Andy Gray, great chemistry between those two.
where is the full interview
Let’s be honest these guys were great on sky sports and to see Andy gray nearly in tears speaking about nearly ending his life and for what? what did he really do wrong ? he made a joke about female linesman big deal it was a massive overreaction and they shouldn’t have been sacked
is it wrong to be young, dumb, and full of banter?
Didn’t know Bruce Willis had a Scottish accent
third rate lookalike banter!
Richard Keys asking Jamie Redknapp would he “smash it”…….😂
Didn't deserve what happened in any way. They still haven't been replaced in my view. I wish you guys all the best and hope you do return to our screens in some way.