Is Reality Real? (Donald Hoffman)
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- Is Reality Real? (Donald Hoffman)
I interviewed Donald Hoffman about Reality and Consciousness.
Donald Hoffman is a Professor of Cognitive Sciences at UC Irvine and a popular science author who authored "The Case Against Reality." Hoffman popularized the idea that consciousness causes brain activity and that consciousness "creates" the properties of the physical world.
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Timeline:
00:00 - Introduction
12:45 - Consciousness Generating Reality
19:50 - Human Consciousness
27:30 - Layers of Reality
I always enjoy DH interviews. What would society be like if more, or even a majority of, people saw/experienced reality this way? That's what I wonder about. Humans seem to be devolving currently. This doesn't make me sad, because life can't be other than it is, but it does create a kind of nostalgia for the beauty we're capable of.
Dont interrupt so much (and dont try to intellectually compete).. Hoffman is the feature, why most came. Let your channel grow before you try to be a feature along with your guest...to soon. Great questions, keep THAT part up. Allow your attraction/feature speak, its why we come. You'll get more subs. I'm trying to help.
@2kt2000 this feedback is incredibly helpful. Thank you!
@@jakenewfield Thank you for being receptive. Subbed. Robert Kuhn, Lex Fridman etc. .. make room.🙂
@@2kt2000 Thank you! Please keep giving me feedback. I will ALWAYS respond. And I'll try to implement the feedback.
Donald Hoffman is a Professor of Cognitive Sciences at UC Irvine and a popular science author who authored "The Case Against Reality." Hoffman popularized the idea that consciousness causes brain activity and that consciousness "creates" the properties of the physical world.
Timeline:
00:00 - Introduction
12:45 - Consciousness Generating Reality
19:50 - Human Consciousness
27:30 - Layers of Reality
We often hear of the hard problem of consciousness. Why is there qualia or experience of anything in the first place? I would submit there is an even harder and more important question - why do I seem to be a specific individual experiencing a specific subset of qualia? This is the most important question that must be asked and answered but rarely is. As a matter of fact there seems to be a huge blind spot when it comes to this in discussions of consciousness. If material reductionism is to be relevant to the big questions, then it has to explain not how brains generate consciousness but how the specific brain in my head could create the specific consciousness I seem to be looking out of the eyeballs of this specific body. Why do I PERSONALLY EXIST as an individual in the first place? Out of the infinite matter in the universe how is it that only the three pounds in my head could create me? What is different about that three pounds for this to occur?
Consider that billions of bodies showed up before this one.
Billions showed up after this one.
None of them seem to have created my existence.
This body could be running around without it being ME just like these billions of others
All bodies are made of the same elements.
All brains have the same basic anatomy.
If all brains are basically the same and are creating consciousness then there should only be ONE consciousness looking out of every set of eyeballs simultaneously.
A hopelessly superimposed existence from every possible viewpoint at once.
I’m sure that materialists would claim that no, no, brains are so complex they are all different.
Ok, so what would have to be recreated in another brain for me to exist looking out of another set of eyeballs?
When the ontologies purporting to explain consciousness are examined critically it becomes obvious that all materialist/reductionist strategies fail completely in attempting to address the individuality question.
What is the principled explanation for why:
A brain over here would generate my specific consciousness and a brain over there would generate your specific consciousness?
Integrated information over here would generate my specific consciousness and integrated information over there would generate your specific consciousness?
Global workspace over here would generate my specific consciousness and global workspace there would generate your specific consciousness?
Orchestrated quantum collapse in microtubules over here would generate my specific consciousness and orchestrated quantum collapse in microtubules over there would generate your specific consciousness?
A clump of conscious atoms over here (panpsychicism) would generate my specific consciousness and a clump of conscious over there would generate your specific consciousness?
If an exact copy of my body was suddenly created in antarctica would I find myself to exist freezing there while also sitting in the comfort my living room?
According to the physicalists that would have to be true or their argument collapses into incoherence.
Materialism already fails since it cannot find a transfer function between microvolt level sparks in the brain and any experience or qualia. In addition it’s not possible for materialistic ontologies to address this question of individuality since no measurement can be made that could verify my consciousness vs your consciousness and therefore no materialist ontology could make any coherent statements about the subject.
How could pure awareness even be individualized?
Physicalists demand measurements but with consciousness there is nothing to measure.
There is electricity in the brain they say. We’ll measure that.
Is electricity consciousness? If so then once I again I should exist everywhere at once since electricity cannot be individualized.
My blender uses electricity.
Is it a genius?
Unless materialists can answer these questions their premise collapses like the house of cards it is.
As far as other ways of thought are concerned only Dualism and Idealism can account for our sense of individuality. Dualism assumes we are all individual spirits/souls matched up to a body through some undefined process. Idealism, which states that consciousness is primary also answers the question of why I seem to exist as an individual.
One consciousness exists looking out of every set of eyeballs and in the process the illusion of individuality is created in each case.
In actual reality I am you, you are me, we are one.
I agree with your (our) assessment. Once you see it this way, it's impossible to unsee.
We are ourselves unreal.
perhaps!
Change the period for a comma:
You don't understand reality, Donald Hoffman
Lol
Why is there reality at all. Would be easier to have nothing?
What do you mean?
@@jakenewfield im not sure.
There's no reason to think that consciousness is something other than brain and nervous system activity. Period.
that's a valid theory!
But as you wrote that you were just talking about symbols. I mean what does brain and nervous system actually mean? They are just something you reflect upon. The consciousness that you are I believe to be transcendent of anything material but we explore this world through different interpretations. Everything is information but what we see isn’t actually what objectively exists. So even you as a human being is some interpretation of the underlying information. Well that’s my view
@@BoshyJoshy96By "brain and nervous system" I mean exactly what those things are. Google it if you have to.
I assume that your brain and nervous system is much like mine, so then why did my conciousness land (edit: arise) in my body and not yours?
@@simondando1097Consciousness didn't "land" in your body. Don't be ridiculous.