Doctor Reacts To Grey's Anatomy | McDreamy's Car Accident
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- čas přidán 22. 01. 2022
- I've reacted to a lot of episodes of Grey's Anatomy on this channel, and am often compared to Dr. Derek Sheppard (because we both have dark hair, or something), so it only makes sense that now I react to his final episode as a regular character on Grey's Anatomy, Season 11 Episode 21, How To Save A Life. This one was packed with medical information that was fun to break down, but also quite emotional. Today we talk about trauma injuries from car accidents, dislocated bones and hips, stomach lacerations, the need for CT scans, punctured lungs, checking your pulse, being on call, appropriate behavior during surgery, and end of life care.
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Being able to hear his internal monologue throughout this episode is honestly the most heartbreaking thing. “I’m going to die because these people aren’t properly trained” gets me every time 😭
I think you need to think of it this way. When people in cosmetology are trained, they are trained for everything. However, when you're in a salon you're used to having the same style come in almost every time. Same style, same hair color, because it's popular or more common. When someone comes in asking for something different you have to reevaluate and remember what you were taught in order to do those particular things. I don't think the doctors were incompetent, even though it's all acting, I just believe they were used to the same hairstyle and in a extreme situation like that, you don't have time to think about your training in a timely manner because you're so worried about someone. I think it's no less stressful than when someone can't breathe and you know CPR but it takes you a few seconds to remember how to actually do CPR.
I'll give an example of my life. I had a moment last year where a car was pulled over and the man was waving down cars on my way home from church. I stopped to see what was the matter because nobody else would because of covid even though I had a newborn baby in the car. His partner was in the passenger seat convulsing with the mask over her face, foam out of her mouth. He was on the phone with 911 but didn't know how to handle the situation. I luckily grew up with a father who was a police officer and taught me early on how to handle situations like this. I stabilized the woman and when other people realized they needed help they stopped until a nurse came to help us as well before the paramedics got there. To an normal person it would only make sense like it would to me to take them out of the car put them on the ground on their side so that they wouldn't throw up in their lungs, and keep calm long enough for someone to come help with medication and expertise. However, he was hysterical and couldn't focus in the moment. I just so happen to have been trained extensively through my whole life how to handle different types of situations just like this one from my father just in case and was able to help and stablize her in the situation regardless of my schooling expertise. (I'm a marine biologist, not a nurse or PhD just yet). Sometimes in the heat of the moment your mind goes blank and it's nobody's fault. That's why medical professionals don't work alone because not everyone can handle stressful situations in the moment. Even if they handle multiple moments, sometimes I can't handle every moment and that's okay. All that's important is that they try. We're better with them than without them.
I am 100% with you. Ive been a Grey's fan and saw this episode in real time... It hurts all over again every time i watch. Its like i am watching for the first time.
@@rainotter I had such a situation this month. I got to school for 3 years to become a caregiver (nurse-assistant, whatever you wanna call it. Those that take care, wash, give food etc. to seniors in nursing homes etc. but I’m gonna change my job but has nothing to do with what happened) so I know a lot about first aid.
The point of view:
My mom and I live next to my grand-parents (now only grandma) and my grandma ran as fast as she could to get our help and she knew that I had some knowledge about the human body even if she’s in the early stages of a demencia and my grandpa laid on the kitchen floor, didn’t move, didn’t react, his face already had cyanosis, his tongue struck out, his eyes were wide open, he had no pulse, no breathing and as Dr. Mike would say: CHEST COMPRESSIONS, CHEST COMPRESSIONS, CHEST COMPRESSIONS! But my mind was the blankest of blank, I cried my eyes out, I didn’t stop yelling that he had no pulse and my mom had enough emotional control that she could call the ambulance and we weren’t really clear because my mom (that has a lot less knowledge in this field than I) and I panicked and my grandma was just in the corner and wasn’t a help because she’s always helpless (she’s often confused as I said early stage of demencia, she still can live alone) and the VERY FRIENDLY and HELPFUL!!! paramedics (a huge thank you to those people) helped me through the phone of what to do and to do chest compressions and I still don’t know to this day how I had so much strength in this wrecking situation to continue it for a couple minutes until the paramedics came. We needed to go out of the room and they did their work of what they had to do. They also called an emergency doctor. The emergency doctor later said that he was already dead when he had fallen from the chair onto the floor and that he didn’t felt pain in his last moments, a natural dead he said, maybe a heart attack or stroke, we don’t know 🤷🏻♀️ and that it’s the best death someone could get because he died instantly without pain. The paramedics later said that I did a good job and that I didn’t need to worry that I did something wrong, bless the paramedics 💓 That for sure is a day I will never ever forget in my life, wow 🤧
Imagine being in medical drama and your line chest compression chest compression chest compression
Tbh, It's not even "properly trained" it's negligence and ego. The dude didn't get a head CT because he's dumb and didn't want to listen to Penny.
I couldn't imagine anything more terrifying than being a doctor who's been in an accident, being aware but unable to communicate, and being aware that the drs taking care of you are making bad calls and wrong decisions.
was he not able to control his blinking? he could've blinked out morse code like that one prisoner of war.
@@dietotaku I don't fully know if the doctors would pay attention to or even notice that necessarily. This is also assuming of course he and any of the doctors know Morse code. I can't speak to if any of them do because the only time I've seen this show is when doctor Mike reacts
@@dietotaku Not everyone just knows Morse code.
thats the worse part about his death
@@dietotaku being able to show reaction with his eyes, doesn’t automatically mean he is awake and conscious enough to translate his thoughts into morse code and then also controlling his eyes absolutely perfectly you know….
the fact that the truck hit him despite being right by an accident with at least 3 emergency vehicles with their flashing lights on is astounding
This is based off a real event. Idk if the dude was a doctor, but some investigation show went after this case and the car was just zooming down the windy road, didn't even see it until it was too late. Tried to swerve around I think. But the guy who had saved the people, he wasn't in the car, he ended up with the car on top of him. Tho I could be wrong, it's been awhile.
its the magic school truck... duh
I was thinking the same thing 😂
Lots of people will see 4 whole lanes on a motorway completely stationary and ride the hard shoulder at speed to pass the blockage despite there being people on foot, flashing lights, emergency services etc at the front of the queues. It's actually quite depressing how stupid and thoughtless people can be.
It's called Shoonda magic. 🤣
I can't believe that McDreamy's send-off was taken directly from Joey's soap opera in Friends. "They said that when they found my body, my brain was so smashed that the only doctor that could have saved me was me. Supposed to be some kind of irony or somethin."
Except any doctor that knew what they were doing could’ve saved him
Omg you’re right 😂😂😂😂
Knowing he could live, but forced to watch himself die, absolutely brutal.
His death was so annoying but sad
:(
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Wait he really died
@@tron5996 the character, yes. irl no.
You know when the song Chasing Cars comes on someone is gonna die
@Aerozine she sang the song though so it’s different that’s why she didn’t die.
Wasn't it "Into The Fire" by Thirteen Seasons which also played at the end of the very first episode of GA?
or did Chasing Cars come on when he got hit? I don't remember it exactly...
I am forever changed by that episode and song with Callie....
@@gossimgirl which season and episode is that ?
I actually do like the fact that he is this the world class neurosurgeon stuck in his own brain knowing what needs to be done to save his life but he can't communicate it to anyone because hearing his thoughts it just makes it sad.
Who hurt you?
@@stupid_fridge me
@@stupid_fridge?
@@stupid_fridgethe episode
@@stupid_fridge?
All my tears were from anger. This episode ticked me off so badly. Not because of the loss of the character. I had lost all patience with McDreamy by that time. But the negligence - and that jerk's ridiculous ego - were just infuriating.
I was so annoyed by most of the characters by this point watching it with my partner that I didn't really care for him dying.
The Locked-In Syndrome monologue was pretty dark and scary though.
Btc ur subscribed to Lucas Arnold u can't be talking
The fact that he knew he could live, but had to watch himself die because those people weren't properly trained is just horrible!
Reason why I stopped watching it
Knowing he was fired by the writer was brutal. of course, I only knew that after the fact. And ugh... this episode crushed me. I can't even listen to the song anymore.
@@shayliakara wait mcdreamy was fired? Whatd he do?
@@frootloopthechatot9766 He basically told the writer that his character was essential and they should pay him more. So, she killed his character. Still sucks to think about it. :(
@@shayliakara BRUH WHAT IS THE EGO OF THAT WRITER????
Turning off the alarms was the first thing the icu nurses did when they were switching off my dad's life support. So glad they did as I don't think I would handle that memory.
My condolences
WARNING I am the unprettiest human YTer worldwide. Take the hint, dear cha
Condolences, my friend.
@@AxxLAfriku bruh read the room
My condolences.
That truck was definitely a deliberate assassination. A whole bunch of ambulances 50ft away, a fairly straight road with plenty of view of the scene and time to stop, yet he continues to plow straight through the car and at that speed presumably the ambulances as well. Hitman of the year.
I enjoy the theory that there is only one single, sentient, all-powerful truck responsible for all of the random truck deaths throughout shows and films, whose only purpose is to run people over.
It was his archnemesis O'Nightmarey who is the worlds most renowned euthanasia specialist.
It's worth noting that at this point Derek is actually a government level neurosurgeon working directly under the president with with multiple industry changing projects under his name, it honestly wouldn't surprise me if he did have a target on his back
I was in a car accident many years ago, and then while I was in the ambulance my dad asked the paramedic "do you think she is ok?". He said "yeah since she is in no pain she is just fine, don't worry". And I said "yeah but I could be bleeding internally and not feel it because of andrenaline" . The paramedic looked at me with surprise and said "are you one of us?" I said "no I've seen grey's anatomy"
Lol 😂😂😂 I’m crying. We are practically doctors after watching greys anatomy 😂
You ok now tho right ?
Then they stopped the ambulance and threw you out
@@cynicaltruth7486haha
Unfortunately the show doesn’t teach you how to do correct CPR. That shows version of compressions is a disgrace😂
And then everyone clapped.
The fact that they skipped the CT and went straight for abdominal surgery is key to the storyline. The emotions are intense in this one because Dr Shepard is a neurosurgeon, and its a brain injury that takes him out. Also, the "he's a doctor" moment is relevant not because they were going to treat him differently but because he came in as a John Doe and the little girls information lead to identifying him and his next of kin. PS- the redhead dr returns seasons later to throw a wrench in Meredith's emotional recovery. "I remember you..."
🥰
And then the male doctor returns to determine if Meredith keeps her medical license. She chews him out, he has a seizure or heart attack, can’t remember which, they get a CT scan (funny because it’s the one thing he didn’t do for Derek) and then spoiler alert he d*es.
Penny returned a season later as Callie's girlfriend and then her and Meredith recognise each other.
@@brittanyselcer 😂😂
@@valeriazenoni6478 that’s what they said
Dr Mike would love Amelia Shepard. They show her “over ordering” CTs all the time
Because of the death of her brother probably
I LOVE AMELIA SHEPARD!!! She's one of my favorites on Grey's! I really relate to her in a lot of ways!
@@Premz009 yeah i think there’s an episode where her and Owen Hunt are arguing about wether a patient goes to the operating room for emergency surgery or for a CT first and she mentions that “a ct would have saved dereks life”. something along those lines if i’m not mistaken
@@sixra and the patient they were arguing over was having an enormous subdural bleed at that point I think
@@Premz009 she’s also in neuro too so 😂
Well this takes the concept of seeing yourself dying to a whole new level. That being said, I loved the breakdown and the extra info you gave.
You're Welcome
The fact that he knew he could live and watched as he slowly didn’t is heartbreaking
The “feel your pulse” thing is actually a good anxiety tactic so as dark as it seems in this situation it’s going to help that kid in the long run
good point! part of the grounding technique you can use for a panic attack!
As someone who is bad at finding their own pulse, this would only make me more convinced I'm dead.
@@judith769 put your hand on your chest while you breathe. That can tell you your lungs are working. Or your hand over your heart where you can feel it beating. Hopefully that can help
@@judith769 Carotid pulse is easiest for me to find. Put two fingers on your neck to the right or left of your voicebox.
For me, there is a vein (I think) in my bottom lip that if I push on with my tongue, I can feel my heart beat.
it’s weird seeing someone watching this episode without crying
I cried watching this video, reliving all the trauma 😭
No fr 😭
I didn’t watch the show so I didn’t cry
Dr Mike doesn’t have any feelings for people
@@246kisses I'm sure he has feelings and empathy but I think he's watching the episode from more of a detached standpoint as a medical professional,the same way he would deal with a patient in the same situation in real life.
There a few call backs to this episode later in the series. The intern (Penny) actually goes to Grey-Sloan to get trained. The roughest call back was when Merideth has to go before the local medical board to determine the fate of her license and one of the board members is the neurosurgeon that was on Derek's team in this episode. I recommend that one as a hint of karma in the end.
The guy questioning her license wasn't the neurosurgeon, he was the guy that was cocky and said that the internal bleeding was more important and said that there wasn't time to get a CT.
3:35 you could see him kinda switch and go into full listening and processing. Doctors are incredible with all the information they have to process at once
The fact that Dr. Mike was like " oh no, McDreamy is gonna die" and proceeded to laugh. It cracks me even though it's not funny.
Ikr🙂😵💫
It's the absurdity that made you laugh. It's what makes a lot of humor funny as well.
Sooo cruel JAJAJA
Nah he just hated McDreamy's annoying personality. So when a bad guy is dead... it is actually a good thing. A laughed too.
The worst is when she goes back to her own hospital and just mumbles “Derek’s dead”.
Yep! And then passes out and falls down! And THEN just VANISHES from Seattle for over a year or so! While I understand grief makes you do some weird things and she may have needed some time to herself, I thought it was strange she wouldn't answer ANY of her closest friends/coworkers calls and they were actually really worried about her and rightfully so!
@@hwoods-kg1jf she was pregnant as well 😱
@@marie5075 at least homeboy got to smash before dying
@@albertmarqz6501 💀
Right, it boggles my mind that she didn't let anyone say goodbye or contact anyone before they pulled the plug!!
I really appreciate how the gore on this channel is always blurred out, I was eating Cheetos while watching this and I definitely did NOT need to see a laceration with intestines.
Watching them take my dad off life support was definitely not like TV. They still talked to him like he could hear and understand them. They took the tube out of him mouth and put the oxygen in his nose. Then they gave him a lot of pain medication, turned off the machines. Then we waited about four hours for him to take his last breath.
Sorry for your loss. Hope you and your family are doing well.
Ironically, my father was doctor and he died from a heart attack, and I study in med school, so I understood that he died out of mis-medication and the ego clash between doctors. Has had an impact on our lives ever since.
I have extensive medical problems. They’re made twice as bad by doctors clashing over egos.
Just likr Dr Mike said, doctors are usually the hardest patients, and as a med student i agree with that
@@marcbucayu But doctors still need to always keep an open mind. My aunt is a doctor and a lawyer. She self diagnosed GCA, but the specialist she chose argued with her. She was several states from home when she suddenly lost vision and spent a week in an unfamiliar hospital. My firsthand experience is that many doctors are bad listeners and think they know more than they do. The fact that you’re already there as a medical student is very disheartening. Just be doctors and leave the psychoanalyzing to the psychiatrists.
@@ChrisW228 I am dealing with this exact issue right now and it's literally affecting my ability to be able to ever walk again or stay wheelchair enabled forever (not the end of the world tho) and in excruciating pain (totally the end of the world, I feel like I'm about to crack because of all this BS)
@@marcbucayu i’m so sorry for your loss
Yeah ur right I didn’t like how seriously they took it after finding out he’s a doctor like that added more value to life. Doctors should take everyone that seriously when it’s life or death. Doctor or not
I think they get serious because affraid his fellow doctors will judge their mistakes
Yeah I understand what you’re saying, but I also think that we as humans can’t really control that, prioritising one person over another, even as doctors. I mean, if it was our mom vs a random folk, wouldn’t we care more for our mom?
Btw English isn’t my language hahaha I hope I’m understandable
It also reminds me of this moral dilemma when a train is about to hit and kill 5 people, and you have the power to change its route so it would hit only 1 person. What would you do? How do you decide who gets to live and who’s not?
And what if they’d say that this 1 person has the cure for a determined illness? Would your decision be different?
Anyways, being the one who gets to make all the calls is hard
@@maayan0990 Your English is perfect and your point is spot on.
@@ButtonsCasey oh my god thank you 😊
I've seen another doctor react to this episode and she explained why some doctors do that, like suddenly act differently when they find out its a doctor. so basically when it comes to a regular patient doctors would give 100% of their effort to save the patient, but when the patient is in the medical field they (not saying all doctors do this) tend to give 110% of their efforts because, well its a fellow doctor, someone who has saved so many lives before, also I suppose like one of the replies here said, also maybe afraid of judgement. I know they didn't know at the time but how do you think it felt that you weren't able to save one of the most well known neuro surgeons just for not getting a freaking head ct?
The most glaring problem I have with that episode is the way he got injured. It's too out of character of him to make such a horrendous mistake, even under that stress.
Surviving getting T-bones by a semi is pretty unlikely, too, unless it’s not going that fast. If that thing was going at open road speeds, he’d be annihilated.
Yeah but cheating on Mer also went against a decade of character building and that still happened too.
@@mydogeatspuke cheating on Mer what?!
@@luckydevil1601 you didn't see the episodes just before he died when he was cheating with his assistant and that was the reason he came home, because he felt guilty and just had to confess?
@@mydogeatspuke He was not cheating! There was mutual attraction, the woman kissed him but he pretty much immediately stopped her, citing Meredith as his reason. Also he already had been back home by the time of the accident. He and Meredith made up and reconfirmed their commitment to the marriage. This came afterward cause he needed to go back to dc one last time to clear everything up. That's why this was doubly heartbreaking, because the show had just reestablished them as like the one true pairing.
Pretty unrelated but one time I heard about a doctor who saved a baby who had some complications at birth, and that baby grew up to be a EMT and ended up saving that very same doctor after he got in a car crash. They both saved each other! Crazy
As an ER nurse I’ve had to tell docs to order head CTs for mvc patients and one of them that they blew off for 3hrs actually had a bleed and had to be transferred to a trauma center. Best believe I documented every single attempt I made to convince the doc to order a CT. All he ordered was a chest X-ray
THIS. IS. WHY. NURSES. ARE. IMPORTANT. If I ever get into a bad accident I hope to have a very through nurse
@@missyj3310 was gonna type this exact comment
@@missyj3310 Yeah, nurses are supposed to be patient advocates.
Nurses are the lifeblood of Healthcare! Thank you for all that you do!! I love that you fought for your patients, we need more like you ❤️💙💜🙌💕
Thank you for treating and taking care of other people we need people to recognize nurses😔🙂
The one thing he didn’t touch on that I wish he did was when Penny, as an intern, tries to tell them to order a head CT but they continuously shut her down.
They frustrated me just as much.
I don't think she was an inter. Maybe second or third year? By the time she was with Callie, she was in Stephanie Edwards, Jo Wilson, and Ben Warren's class.
My guy I was on the treadmill for like 20 mins and I looked at my heart rate and it was 150 and um yea😂
It made me so mad because she got blamed for his death when she was the only one saying that he needed a head CT.
@@johnbaker3737Obviously your heart rate goes up when exercising. 🙄 The 60-100 bpm figure refers to resting heart rate.
@@AbstractQueer ok and? I wasn’t flexing I was stating Ik your heart rate goes up mine is usually 120 while working out jeez
The McDreamy accident episode made me SO MAD.
He could have and would have been saved but doctors were too busy being cocky and careless on top of his careless move to answer his phone while his car is still in the middle of the road.
I sobbed my eyes out for hours after watching that episode for the first time.
I couldn’t handle his death.
Wow, I haven’t seen this episode since it aired. It’s even more heartbreaking/interesting having a Doctor explain the subtle nuances of what went wrong. Thank you Dr. Mike for such a thorough explanation of this storyline 🙌🏾
As a CT Tech hearing a doctor say “we over order CT in the ER” just makes me feel more sane 😂
So true. Sometimes they want 4 CTs in a day for the same patient because he took a Fall AGAIN.
Rather CT too many than one too few.
@@lea3921 it only has to pay off once. The one time you skip it, you’ve killed someone’s dad due to you being lazy
@@maxiomaxiom6169 qq
@@kaciekuhl2058 no u
This is the hardest episode ever! He knew what was happening and couldn’t fix himself. It gets me every time.
Couldn’t finish it
I liked how this episode did depict what happens in smaller hospitals because someone I know who was a respiratory therapist dealt with doctors who did not care about coming in and the day shift having to do the night shift’s jobs.
They also had limited resources and even if they did know something, they still had to contact their supervisor or another doctor. So I feel for the doctor who dealt with the stupid red tape.
tbh i somewhat like how they treated his death because it's so realistic. he was randomly hit by a truck, doctors making bad calls, dying because doctors made horrible decisions/weren't trained properly/let their pride get in the way of a patient's life. this is unfortunately a scenario i think too many could relate to.
After my dad was hit by a train when he was 16, they did a head ct and found he had bleeding on the brain. He’s now 70 and we call him the bionic man for the steel plate that replaced his skull. That head ct saved his life.
I mean the skull injury so severe it needed replacing with metal would have been enough to assume brain involvement without a CT but ok!
If your dad is now 70, and the accident was when he was 16 (54 years prior), it would have been in 1968/1969. The first CT scan of the human brain was in 1971 and first commercial CT machine in 1972. So you either have some mistakes in your ages, or perhaps the scan was something other than a CT.
Are all you three doctors?
@@santosjr.ramonadaml.7145i think so
yeah lmao getting hit by a train is sure to cause some fuckery to the brain@@mydogeatspuke
Derek’s thoughts are essentially a “doctor reacts” video but with the worst possible ending
Yes I agree!
" Real doctor reacts to their own death!! "
this episode hit me really hard, not only was derek a character i was quite fond of (until he had his 'constant lashing out at meredith' arc...), my mom died in a car accident a few years back so it was quite rough to watch.
I'm in a horrible spot between intensely curious and intensely squeamish, so as I try my best to pay attention without paying attention I will say my heart goes out to people in the medical field. Thank you so much for doing what I can't!!
It always bugged me that there were no police or highway incident clean up trucks blocking the road, that literally the ambulance just leaves and then Derek is chilling alone in the road. This episode had a lot of profound things in it, but I also feel like Shonda gets mad when actors leave on their own timeline and she doesn’t write their exits as well.
Agreed. The scene was "too perfect" unfortunately.
i'm not one to watch shows like grey's anatomy but just the bit i saw here bugged me, like if you're making a u-turn why would you stop while you're parked literally across the entire road to dig around in your car because your phone is vibrating? first of all do they not teach doctors that IT CAN WAIT, DON'T TEXT AND DRIVE? at least finish the turn and then pull to the shoulder before you start rooting around for your phone. that was a straight-up suicidal move right there.
@@dietotaku Not only that, but the truck would have seen him too. I know it's really hard for them to stop, but the road was a straight road, and there were ambulances behind him, so the truck would of had time and would have to stop regardless.
@@thegeneralgamer4921 IIRC there was a corner before the straight bit of road there. I still dunno how they didn't see him but I think that's how they tried to play it off.
@@dietotaku you are right, I would honestly put this one on stress?
like he just witnessed a gigantic car crash, even a 'cool' doctor is not unphased by that.
But yeah it's stupid. honestly he should have taken a big breather and chill for half an hour and not drive.
so the true advice probably would be: call a cab, call friends, at least take half an hour of a break.
I think the mose depressing part of this is that he knows whats going on with himself and he cant say anything so he knows that he is going to die from his injuries. Literally one of my biggest fears.
That's a really strange fear, considering the likelihood of this outcome is so minute...
@@chrishaugh1655 I think they meant knowing what's going on, how it could be different, but knowing your death is certain
At least that's how I read it
Honestly made me think about me, my family, and those I care about. We aren’t all MCDREAMYs like you Mike, but it kind of brings resolution for the human body in worst case scenarios. Thank you Doctor Mike. 😢 one of millions who you touch with your content daily,
Jared K. From H-town
I was in a high speed car crash, I was TBoned, I'm happy first thing they did was a CT scan, besides the chest tubes. I Remember telling the paramedic while in the driver's seat as I was grasping for air ( I think my lung is collapsed). It turned out to be a pressure rupture on my diaphragm. Happy the doctor called in a liver transplant specialist to over see the surgery.
I remember another CZcamsr covered this specific episode, and they said something along the lines of "The brain should always be the highest priority. Because if the brain dies, then that's it, the person is gone", which makes a lot of sense. Especially in cases, where you can visually see that they already have a head injury, aka Derek legit bleeding from a wound in his head.
I loved when Amelia Shepard wheeled a portable head CT into a room when Owen wouldn’t agree to the head CT. She was right of course.
@@kbaylor123 what episode was this?:)
@@LM-xw1hf S11 E21
@@ch3mdah thank you
I'm almost crying here. Meredith was very cold to the doctors because she knew that the love of her life, Derek, was thinking all the through the medical attending that he passed. I can't even imagine what it's like to decide whether the life support should be shut off. My solidarity to all people who do it.
I was on life support and I had a seizure but I was still able to use sign language to talk to my mom but I don’t remember that 😐😐
@@Sirius._winter That's so cool that you knew sign language. 🙂
who's Meridith?
What you perceive as cold is actually analytical and pragmatic. She is a doctor. You can see it in her face and in the sound of her voice on the verge of cracking, she has the knowledge of the processes around her but she wishes with all her might that she could neglect it, to toss all that knowledge away to be naive and hopeful he will survive this. But in the end, her knowledge Dave's him countless hours of agony being trapped in a non functioning body and, as the narrative has already demonstrated, he was screaming at the top of his mind function but nothing getting out, they waited too long for critical care steps to be done. Now with the MOI (mechanism of injury), chances are slim that Humpty Dumpty could be put back together again, but when you miss these critical injuries and so much time passes, there are no do overs. There is no guarantee he would have made it even if they had stopped or relieved the pressure on the brain, and missing key abdominal bleeding. But the chances could have improved significantly for a guarded prognosis. No, his previous career would have been over. His life would have had chronic pain. But if he would have managed to pull through, he could have possibly adjusted to a life crisis of teaching only, there are ways to survive things like this, but is the patient willing to survive it after irrevocably massive changes to their lifestyles and daily living? Are they willing to adapt after their body has been saved? We, medically can save bodies, but damage is done. It is instantaneous changes that patients must come to grips with quickly. Not being able to walk, loss of major functions, loss of identity, loss of careers, loss of whatever. It can break some who are unable or sometimes unwilling to adapt and embrace change. New challenges can overwhelm. The pain of perfect bodies mangled creating constant pain after the body heals its best. Nerve pain can be permanent. I have been in major accidents that I recouperated in 3 days from. I healed a broken foot in 3 weeks. The Dr could not grasp that. It was amazing to see his face. I personally will "climb the mountain, go around the mountain, go back and go around the other side, tunnel under it, or set the mountain on fire and blow it up, or whatever I have to do to persevere and get that mountain in my rear view mirror no matter what it cost to me physically. I am an overcomer. I have amazed physical therapists, Dr's and such with my tenacity and drive. Is that healthy? Not all the time. But I will get the job done. I recently sacrificed my health working 80 plus hours at work for 4 months in a row to help my co- workers (friends) survive work while everyone was dropping like flies due to covid. I eventually had to stop because your body and circulation are not meant to compensate for 80 plus hours of standing, missing bathroom breaks, missing meals, all because I got lost in the need to be there and fix the issues. I made a difference but my heart and kidneys sustained damage from it. Started to have bad CHF and beginning kidney failure. I am not as young as I used to be. But I did lose 3 dress sizes. Bonus. Just not the good way.
Meredith is not cold. She is educated. And she knows the patient. She wished she could give everything she had and was to see a different outcome, but the issues are known. The damage done. The poor decisions made. Can't take back time. He was gone when they ignored protocol.
Dr Mike, laughing about McDreamy was funny but I was impressed when you immediately switched to Doctor mode when comparing it with actual end of life care. You are very kind and caring when speaking about potential patients. Thank you.
I freaking love Dr. Mike! We need more of him!
when my grandma passed in april, they forgot to shut off the alarms. my sister is a nurse and she just did it herself when she noticed. they had already left the room and basically said we’ll be back to pronounce her official time of death and we didn’t want to call them back in and disrupt my grandpa saying his goodbyes so my sister just shut them off. i’m glad she did because i know i would not want that memory of the beeping let alone my grandpa to have it.
so nice your sister could avoid more pain for you
that’s what happened when my grandpa passed away except the machine kept turning on after a few minutes, that beeping still giants me to this day so i’m glad your sister was able to prevent that for you guys. hope you’re all doing okay now
@@haley3677 my condolences for you too
My condolences
you know something i kinda liked about this video is when Dr Mike says they new people forget to turn off the alarms and they do actually forget to, at first i thought it was for dramatic flare but it could also be them showing how bad the hospital he died at was
Less bad and more... sub-par. And that's the difference. Just a little more lax mentality, less practiced, not enough 'follow this guideline for trauma patients', etc.
I find it interesting as how the doctors miss treaded him, like, you went to med school! Act like it! Also props to not crying Dr Mike! This was a very hard episode for me as I lost someone similarly as doctors miss-treated them after a fatal stroke
The fact that all these scenes were enough to make me cry as if I were watching the actual episode. Grey’s has my emotions in a choke hold
Listen to him when he talks about the head ct. my brother hit a car on his bike going 45 mph and wouldn't have survived without a head ct. Thanks Dr. Mike love your vids. you are a great guy
@@ImprovisionFilm Thanks. I know how it is. My brother got out a couple months ago and is doing great. I hope your bro is healthy and recovering.
Just gonna ask where your brothers have any memory loss or like a metal thing happen to them
Don’t care
I don't believe I've ever cried more at the death of a fictional TV show character than I did at this ep.
What about Mark OR if you watch Station 19… Ripley 🥺😭
I cried for George more 😭
Me too! Even watching this vid makes me want to cry.
Me too, I never cry for movies or shows.... I did with his death... (and lexies)
for me, its McSteamy... :(
That in the last conversation segment, you were just talking about really hit home for me. I had to do that for my mom couple years ago. It was the hardest decision of my life and it was always her wish to pull the plug even though I didn’t want that.
i literally bawled my eyes out and could’ve breathe while watching this episode
literally
My dad didn't know his back was broken from his accident. UPS driver ran into his driver door an peeled it open but he had so much adrenaline going three days later the adrenaline went away and he knew his back was broken he's got an implant in now and he's got full mobility pretty much.
Wow im so happy for your dad that he ratined full mobility! Thats awesome!
Oh dang that’s so scary! I’m glad he’s okay!
I really glad that your dad is ok that must have been so scary for you.
Adrenaline only lasts 2 hours. He had severe nerve compression more likely due to an unstable fracture. Then when a movement relieved the pressure on the compressed nerve, or he decided enough is enough of the pain and something is wrong, then they discovered the area with localized pain. Shock can lady days... adrenaline minutes to hours unless they have Cushings or Addisons. Then medications used to cope with these adrenal crises can obscure issues as you try to compensate for poor functioning glands.
“Stay happy, and healthy……… unlike McDreamy”
Cold-blooded, Mike 🤣🤣
Ikr.. outta pocket.. 😂💀
I was crying so much firing this episode. My mom saw me crying and thought something bad happened in real life. And Meredith was so chill and I started screaming at her because I had a mental breakdown and she didn't 😂✌️
My mom screamed and cried at this episode (I wasn't into yet, I was too young lol) and my dad ran down thinking one of us was hurt. It was really funny
Meredith was not chill, she was dead inside.
no one presents grief or trauma the same way. for some folks, being completely stonefaced in the moment is normal. doesn't mean they're not upset.
Really good video. I'm a retired NP and used to commentate medical dramas for friends pretty much the way you did here. Nice going, Doctor.
This happened to me one time on a weekend early in the morning, the first thing I did was call for help and tell the person to relax and not move until help arrived. She was in shock but I talked her through it. She had a full recovery. I did not block traffic with my entire car and get smashed by a semi truck though.
Sad
Your last sentence made me laugh so hard!! 😂😂😂 Also, happy to hear you were able to help out and really glad that she recovered fully.
I literally sat in my bed and hysterically cried for almost an hour when McDreamy died 😂 They didn’t have to do me like that 😂🤦♀️
my security cameras caught me hysterically crying at midnight when I first watched it a few weeks ago and I still have the footage it’s hilarious
It was the last episode i watched of the show
@@SIMPLYME100 same! There’s no Grey’s Anatomy without MerDer
lmaoo same. I've never been so hurt in my life 😂😂😂
@@SIMPLYME100 same!!! I couldn't continue after. lol
My mom had to listen to the alarms when my dad died. They still had the machines on and the alarms were on and my mom heard the alarm and that was it. Watching your loved one die in their hospital bed and hearing the alarms when they die is a horrible experience
My mom loves greys anatomy and I’ll watch it occasionally but I have so mush respect for you for breaking down the things mentioned or done in the show that would just flow over most peoples head
This one is an emotional episode for sure but it leads to an important conversation about end of life wishes. I think it's important that everyone has that conversation with their family about what their wishes are.
McDreamy had a conversation with Meredith very early on in the series about his end of life choices, he wanted to pass surrounded by his sisters which makes her actions even more shocking haha
@@WantingBread the haha at the end was completely unnecessary.
Considered she is the wife and mother of his children her views trump his relatives own, and what if they revisited the terms not to keep on his life support knowing the complications that it cause for his relatives such as Amelia she made the right call
@@WantingBread he said if he was in a coma, not if he was brain dead
@@aliioana8586 tbh your comment was unnecessary
The continuity in this episode is just beyond. Nobody's phone had signal but he stops in the road because his phone was ringing. Meridith is waiting until 6:00 to look for Derik but he's in the OR in surgery at 8 pm but then they cut to her at home, the clock strikes 6 and she's holding the phone when cops show up to tell her he's dead ? None of it makes sense
FOR REAL
This kind of thing drives me nuts, too. I usually wind up turning the channel. It just ruins everything for me.
Derek was in Washington DC. Meredith was in Seattle. Seattle is 3 hours behind DC.
@@ethanyoung7361 But he never made his flight ... that was one of the things
@@ethanyoung7361 No, Derek was still in Washington state. There's a whole thing about him taking a shortcut to Seattle on that rural back road he's on. I remember because I live in the area and there's no back way to get into Seattle that's SHORTER than just taking I-5 from Seatac even with traffic.
Can’t know why Mike’s content is so interesting and fun to watch!
Keep it up!
When she said “this is gonna hurt” as she put the line in to drain the lungs, I felt it. I had to have mine drained but for a different reason. I had fluid in AND around my lungs that we eventually found out was from a mild infestation in our apartment. The doctor was able to numb the skin a little but I still felt the scalpel and the tube penetrate my chest. I’ve got a high pain tolerance but good God that hurt like hell. Especially when it went between my ribs.
The funniest part of this was dude was in a wide open straight away and you're telling me the trucker who just witnessed multiple emergency vehicles leave the scene decided to speed up to a car thats parked in the middle of the road?
I'm more surprised the police didn't have the road at least partially blocked off with "SLOW" traffic signs leading to the area.
There is actually an episode, where Meredith meets the Doctor(the one she talked about turning of the machines) and accuses him off not doing burr holes. Would be great to hear your opinion on this as well =). Thank you so much, also for this video =)
It would be amazing if Mike reacted to that episode!
and he passed out 🙃
@@SageCanary_ He died lol. S16. E8
That was the one where Meredith was on trial and he mentioned Zola … and she named everyone of the spouses of the patience she lost
@@michaelaneal4972 Yes,I know. Don't spoil the episode.
Thank you for explaining all of this stuff! Some of that was pretty obvious, but a lot of that was very interesting to learn the why & how
Samantha Sloyan is phenomenally talented. She's had an incredible career. I had no idea she was in the show (I don't really watch Grey's Anatomy) but she did great.
It may not be accurate but the emotional depth was still there and I could feel all the emotions
Honestly that's what grey's anatomy is all about. Not medical accuracy but emotional depth and touching the hearts of the viewers
The lory/truck crash was so bad story telling like a dame 60€ EA game skript event.
No matter how inaccurate they are, the spirit is still there. That's why I love medical dramas :)
Yass
& why I won’t watch. Hahaha ☮️
@@sondraW Ok?
@@sondraW Bruh. Just... bruhh
Lol not so fun for med students
Ok 10:30 all of those monitors have the exact same screen image. They really couldn't be bothered to change anything about them to make them see like different systems.
The fact that he was an intelligent surgeon and a father.. and he just parks in the middle of the road fluffing about is what gets me.
I’m so glad we had end of life conversations with my children. It made decision making easier (wasn’t any less painful though) when our daughter was hit by a car. We knew her wishes and respected them. From a very young age she said she wanted to be an organ donor. She went in to save 4 lives and bring sight to at least 1 person. It’s vital we talk about life and death issues with our children and with our family and friends.
Wonder why organ or tissue donation wasn’t mentioned as an option in the episode 🤷🏼♀️
I think it was mentioned briefly but because of all the abdominal bleeding there wasn't really anything usable
Your daughter is a true angel 👼
mc. dreamy kind of looks like you
@@rachelx04 the heart and lungs are not in the abdomen. Even if major organs can’t be donated, tissue and corneas can be.
I’m pretty sure Meredith just says they did the best they could to end the conversation- she is fully aware that they messed up big time, she just doesn’t wanna deal with their problems in that moment
It's difficult because at that moment they did do what they thought was the best - in hindsight it's easy to say it wasn't the best they could have done but it was the best they could at the moment.
@@Chislevs penny did try to get a head ct but the doctor in charge didn't listen
It still makes me mad that Meredith didn't call any of his family to say goodbye. His sister was literally thirty minutes down the street.
I can't believe I'm a second year med student and I already know almost all terms, words and exams mentioned here it just makes me so happy 😭
I can only imagine how terrifying it must be to die when you're a doctor, let alone, for the very reason you specialize in (in mcdreamy's case, it's neurosurgery). My grandmother worked in the medical field and she died of cancer. I never knew her, so I can only judge about her by my mother's memories. Alas, this is understandably a very painful topic for her, bc my grandma died too soon, so I try to mention the grandmother as rarely as possible.
Medically accurate or not, loosing McDreamy was one of the hardest on Grey's.
Literally
SPOILER FOR ANYONE WHO HAS NOT WATCHED PASSED SEASON 4 OR SEASON 10!!
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George’s death was the absolute worst for me. I stopped watching after season 10 when Cristina left and I was having anxiety throughout the whole episode thinking they were going to kill her off 🤦♀️ Thankfully she didn’t die, but that anxiety that didn’t let me enjoy the episode was what had me say “enough is enough” lol It’s like the characters in this show are at war!
Yeah, when I found out I stopped watching. 😬
10:09 "Oh no, McDreamy is gonna die" Doctor Mike proceeds to laugh 😂😂😂😂
One night I decided to watch an episode of Grey’s because I heard everyone talking about it. It just happened to be this one. I cried so hard for a character I didn’t even know…
When my mom was dying, we were given the choice as a family... Keep her on life support in the vain hope she *might* wake up, or put her on comfort care until she passed. The chances of her waking up were very low, and we knew that even if she did wake up, she'd never be the same. There was too much damage after an aneurysm and stroke and we knew she'd rather die than live her life severely impaired. We made the decision to let her go, and it was the most painful thing I've ever been through, but I took solace in knowing she passed without the pain she'd lived with her entire life.
One of our main regrets was that we sort of knew what she wanted as far as death care, but not everything... she didn't have a will, she didn't name anyone as primary... We had to jump through so many hoops after she died, and that was immensely painful. As sad and as scary as it is to think about our own mortality, I'm working with my husband to set up a care plan for us both should something happen to either of us. We're only in our early 30's, but neither of us want our families to go through the hurt of guessing what we might have wanted.
Im sending you love and prayers. Stay strong💗🙏
Let's just take a moment to appreciate how wholesome Dr. Mike is. He's informative, funny, entertaining, and everything you would want in a doctor. Love how he describes differences in TV vs real life medicine
I love how as soon as I started watching greys anatomy every now and then it pops up 😅
My dad's oncologist never had this conversation with us he instead told us that we were discontinuing chemotherapy and shook my dad's hand and said it was nice meeting him and left the room,my dad had been suffering from mental confusion due to some necrosis of tissue and so days later I had to be the one to tell him he was dying and in almost 2years of treatment the doctor never discussed who would be his power of attorney or asked what his last wishes were,I had to do all of that and then I was pressured and bullied into taking my dad home before we were able to get hospice in to set up a bed and oxygen and everything,if it weren't for the head of the hospice taking pity on me and telling me it was my call as to whether he could be discharged before I had the proper equipment to take him home and that I could tell them I did not want him discharged yet I would've believed the doctor and the other staff who told me if I didn't take him home that day they were going to send him to a hospice facility when his wish was to die at home,also my brother died by aspirating and so that was a real concern for me since my teacher in my surg tech program had explained to me how horrible and traumatic that kind of death can be when my dad started gurgling anytime he was given liquid I expressed that concern to the nurse at the hospital and was told that he was going to die either way so what did it matter if he aspirated,luckily I got far enough along in nursing school to know that oxygen and suction and not giving him large amounts of liquid were the right calls to make and so I was able to get all of the right equipment and get everything set up so when did come home I was able to care for him properly until the day he died,also alot of people think hospice does everything but in the 2 weeks before my dad died they only came in a handful of times and showed me how to do everything but it was me who did everything including administering meds,suctioning him,rotating him to prevent bed sores,changing his diapers and also having to make all of the calls to notify family and guy the funeral home a heads up,the bottom line is you have rights as a loved ones advocate and that if you don't believe they are getting the best care don't let yourself be bullied into accepting less, also not all hospice care is the same some is very minimal and some is basically equivalent to round the clock nursing care,do your research when a loved one is terminally ill so you aren't taken advantage of or caught off guard!!
You should watch/react to the episode where Meredith sits in front of a jury of doctors to see if she gets her license revoked! The doctor who tells her they need the room is on that jury, Meredith has a big monologue about Derek’s death!
That would be a fun one for another cross over, because the ending of that situation, while moving, seems pretty dumb from a legal POV. 😂
That speech was AMAZING
I was thinking on that episode.
Very true. My friend and I were hit from someone going about 90mph. There was a disconnect with my brain and legs (burst fractured my c5 in my neck) so I couldn't speak and my friend was panicking thinking I was dead. So I was trying to move my legs to get out of the car, but the rest of my body wouldn't move. A nurse on the way to work stopped and she kept me from moving until ems got there. At the time, I was more worried about my friend who was running around calling my name thinking I had died.
Something astonishing about the truck crash worth pointing out: There's multiple stopped vehicles, emergency vehicles, people around, etc... But the truck driver on a mostly straight road (3:19) was like: "Oh, someone is turning around too slow. I'll just honk my horn and not brake at all. If I crash into that car, that's on him."
Like doctor mike is so right hes so loyal to his patients his patients come first before him great sign of a good doctor
Since the Grey's reaction series has returned, maybe give us a closer look on season 8 episode 22 where the boards exams took place? Despite still having lots of rOmANcE, they talked a lot of patient stimulation stuff and so I thought it'd be interesting for you to watch 😁
Yes, that would be so cool, I'd love to see how accurate the boards are.
Yesss!!!!
Oh yeah, that would definitely be interesting!
YES
Yes, please! I feel like that one actually has a lot Dr. Mike could talk about and is not just full of drama.
The decision to terminate life support is agonizing. We did that for mom years ago - she had multiple organ failure and went into cardiac arrest during the night in the hospital. We knew there was no chance of a meaningful recovery, so we let her go, and she died with us praying over her at 4 am.
I’m so sorry for your loss, I hope you have found strength.
I really liked how you said at the end of the video that every decision is not always the correct one. My brother was on life support and in a comma for 4 weeks and the doctors told us to take him off life support and we were just torturing him. He needed up pulling through when we told them no we want him to have a fighting chance and now he is happy and healthy
"MCDREAMY!" That was the funniest part of the video 😂😂😂😂
This is very negligent and so upsetting! I loved when Meredith confronted the Doctor when her license was in question.
In my case, I remained undiagnosed with a pituitary tumor causing Cushings Disease for SEVENTEEN YEARS. Had my right eye twitching non stop and drooping before they would agree to an MRI. Negligence!!!! It’s rampant. So are big egos.
I know it's a show and all, but Dr Mike is right about the CT thing
My brother got into a serious car crash when he was 15 and the children's hospital refused to do a CT scan on his head until my dad forced them to.
He ended up having a blood clot in his brain so lucky they found it
He's fine now though, so yeah 🙏
Forced them to? By dragging him to the imaging room and running the scan himself? You can't force a doctor to do something lol.
@@mydogeatspuke "give him a CT now or I will sue"
Force litigation. At the end of they day he can request special scans the same way you can just go into a hospital now and ask for an MRI.
@@Valorking_ things must be very different in the US then. You can't just wander into an ER and demand expensive diagnostic tests "or else" anywhere else in the world. You would just be escorted off site by security and possibly have the police called against you.
@@mydogeatspuke yeah that's why the poor die undiagnosed. The rich can shop around at different hospitals and buy what ever scans they want within reason.
@@mydogeatspuke Not really. You can demand a CT.
This episode of grey's changed my life. I cried for days
Dr. Mike is making doctors out of us all.