***”Welcome to Wrexham” has ruined American Sports for me!***
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As a Welshman from North Wales, I have to say that Ryan and Rob are what every football club owner should be like. The fans raised £100,000 in 7 hours to keep the club alive. Their respect for the club, the fans and the local community is unmatched. They promote the local community and businesses, not just the club. They turn up at community charity events etc. They go for a pint with the fans. They respect Welsh culture and language. Long may they reign in my view!
llongyfarchiadau ar ddyrchafiad
So interesting you are from wales
Rwy'n cytuno â chi
I support Reading. We have a foreign owner who is kind of what fans would want an owner to be...he paid for a new training ground, he has been happy to invest millions in the team...he seems to have no ego, doesn't intefere with team selection or transfers... The problem is that he's utterly clueless and the club is a total shambles. The two clubs he owned previously both folded because he ran them so badly. With debts of well over £100 million now, a large chunk added under his ownership, could the hat-trick be coming?
For Wrexham, it's great. The problem really will come if/when Wrexham get to Championship level. The owners are rich men, but they probably aren't rich enough to buy their way out of that division.
Seems that most teams in need of change are too prideful to admit they would love the rejuvenation. It seems automatic.
I’m so touched by what I saw of the people of Wrexham.
That’s community.
So reminiscent of the Sunderland documentary,
Congratulations on the promotion! What a game!
The promotion and relegation system is what American sport is missing. It means that no matter who you support, every game is important and high stakes. Having the same 30 or so teams also contributes to American sports focusing on the spectacle rather than the sport and turns it into show business. The English football league system is amazing
Plus, it leads to a lot of tanking. Either for financial benefits and match fixing or to get a higher draft pick when there's an exciting prospect. American sports for me can be entertaining, but let's be real, it's more about the drama and the 'show' rather than the sports. Also, the fact that owners have so much control over american sports is a joke. It's just an exclusive club of billionaires that save each other's hide instead of working for the benefit of the sport and the players ex. dan schneider. On the contrary they even sometimes conspire together against players to serve their own narrative like lamar jackson right now. There's no real rivalries between teams because then owners are all in cahoots
@@joelle4662 yeah completely agree, the threat of relegation is what makes the league system so good. also those billionaire owners you mention are becoming more and more common in football across europe and particularly the premier league. only two of the 20 prem clubs aren't owned by billionaires. not to mention newcastle who are backed by the saudi investment fund, who are worth more than 600 billion
@@jonnypearson3088weirdly I can see the benefit of both sides.
America just happened to be set up where college teams created an amazing farm system for the pros.
In England you had the class system where apart from a lucky few most footballers came from working class backgrounds with many serving as football apprenticeships cleaning the boots of the senior players.
In America I love the idea that the worst team get the first pick as there is a fairness to it but it does obviously make relegation illogical.
In England I love that you can build a team up from the lower leagues to the Premiership but the reality now is that you can't really break the top 6 unless you're backed by billionaires with the exception of Leicesters miracle season so you get the same old teams competing at the top and taking fans from supporting their local team who just can't compete with their resources.
It's like different systems of government, maybe there's a hybrid version taking the best parts of both methods that would make both countries sports better that we just can't figure out yet?
Promotion and relegation on the last day of the season can make grown men cry. Whether your team goes up or goes down
I fully understand why club owners in america doesnt wanna have promotion/relegation in their sports. They r investing a load of money n even a fear of relegation is bad for bussiness. But is true there s so much emotions n drama missing without the desperation of being relegated n the happiness of getting promoted
Ah mate do you know how refreshing it is to just find a genuine sports fan with a channel like you.
None of this American sports are better British sports are better nonsense.
Just a passionate guy who enjoys any sport with heart, who speaks so eloquently and honestly about it.
Liked and subscribed buddy, glad to be on board!
Appreciate the kind words friend!
As someone who was born in Wrexham & grew up in a teeny tiny village in Wrexham I appreciated this video a lot. It’s still mad to me that Americans even know where Wrexham is!!! The fact that Americans come to Wrexham as a tourist destination now will probably never stop blowing my mind! Rob & Ryan have really done a wonderful job & I love Rob’s dedication to learning Welsh as well. Great video!!
Which tiny teeny village was it you grew up in?
@@dannyboy621 Yeah I'm not giving that info out to a total stranger thanks!
Can't blame a man for trying lol unlucky Danny
Muricans have been comin here for years, my ex years ago used to work in the Wynnstay hotel and she was serving different groups of them every night
llongyfarchiadau ar ddyrchafiad!!
I'm not a Sunderland fan, but I would recommend watching "Sunderland 'til I Die" as well. It really shows the damage that the downturn of a football club can have on the local community.
Said it before and I’ll say it again. In my opinion it is the best series following a club.
Yes it’s absolutely riveting to watch. My best mate is a Mackem and he can’t bring himself to watch it it hursts too much for him
“Til I die” - Which up north is not really as long as you would think 😂!
Sunderland Til I Die is much better than Welcome To Wrexham.
What can you watch it on?
It is really crazy, this usually happens in regional teams or the ones with a long tradition. Here in Chile "Deportes Magallanes" with 125 years of history, one of the founders of the local football league, indeed its first champion, was promoted to first division this year after 36 years in second and even third division, and won the league cup. Seeing the joy and tears of the older fans people in their 70s, 80s, 90s seeing their beloved "manojito de claveles" being champions and going to first division was amazing and told me one thing, futbol is not only a fun sport to watch, for some it's part of their identity and it lasts for life
Aguante Magallanes
Compadres chilenos
Wrexham are older than that
As a gambler from the UK, I've bet on your team from time to time.
Chile poooooo
As a fellow American who has had a life long love of soccer/football, I completely agree with this video. The added stakes of promotion and relegation completely changes the game
Don't say soccer please
@@peakyblinder4511nothing wrong with soccer. A British word, which we British were more than happy to use for a century and more, until this weird “it’s football, not soccer” thing started in the 90s
@@stuartjohnson160 no it was not the word football has been the official name since the 1800 .definitely not a 90s thing silly boy 🤣 🤪 😜 😂
@@peakyblinder4511 sorry, I don’t understand your post. Please rephrase in clear sentences.
My team is Leeds United. Back around the year 2000, we were near the top of the league and playing in the champions league semi finals. We got relegated in 2003 and ended up in the 3rd tier. Two years ago we got back into the top league, what a feeling. We are still there, but were almost relegated again last season, but we won our last game and stayed up. What a feeling again! Mate, without promotion and relegation sport is just show biz. American sports have always been viewed as a bit of a joke in the UK because of this.
Leeds fan too. I too have suffered. Too completely agree with relegation. I would have it no other way.
imagine being me..i support coventry
Without hazardous jeopardy in play, success in sport has no real meaning. You didn't risk anything so why should I care when you lift the trophy. Australian Rules Football has this problem and while a national scale pyramid is just not financially viable below a second division, splitting the 20 team AFL league comp into two divisions with promotion/relegation would solve so many of the present problems.
Get this, twenty teams play 22 rounds in the regular season. That means they only get to play home and away against three clubs. All they need to do is split the league in two then everyone gets home and away fixtures PLUS they'll get playoffs for promotion during the traditional finals series. So why don't they?
Because the idea of borrowing something, ANYTHING from Association Football is an admission of inferiority and that they cannot allow.
MOT 💛💙
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I think you'd enjoy the story of Union Berlin. They have been a perenial 2nd and 3rd tier team ever since the unification of Germany. But in the past couple of years they challenged for a European spot. Their fans even helped to renovate the "Alte Försterei"(their stadium) in their free time(2300 volunteers committed 140000 work hours) + they helped finance the renovation.
@@ralfklonowski3740 - …not to forget the "FC St.Pauli" episode!
@@agn855 I haven't watched that one yet. I'll check it out.
Awww, that's beautiful man!
I thought it was a pity that we Feyenoord were not allowed to play in the Union Berlin stadium last year in the conference league .
I knew you helped that station, thought that was impressive and also that forest where your stadium is located i hope we meet again one day in some european cup .
The keeper of Union is Oliver Christensen who is born and raised in my home town of Odense and has been raised football wise in the local club OB... He is precious to us as we have seen him growing up and recently he was the 3rd choice for Denmark at the World Cup.. please take care of him. He is a Diamond of a boy... Go Union Berlín! And "En gang Odense altid Odense!"...
The biggest issue I personally have with American sports is that, unlike football/rugby/cricket/etc, they seem to require spectacle from outside the sport itself in order to keep crowds entertained and engaged. There's half time shows, cheerleaders, kiss cams, national anthems at every game, even baseball has dogs to retrieve bats now (not gonna lie, that's pretty awesome), whereas in European/worldwide sports, the sport is the spectacle, crowds waiting for that moment of magic, the cheer that erupts when someone scores a screamer or hits a six, it's not flooded with all this extra fluff that it doesn't need. European sports are a direct connection between the players and the fans, that's where the passion comes from and I think that's what US sport has forgotten, it's more concerned about showmanship than sportsmanship.
I'm so glad you're showing such a keen interest in football, the Premier League starts back up around Christmas, get yourself to a pub, grab a pint and watch a few games, you'll be hooked in no time!
I agree and I think part of the reason is that (other than NFL) there are too many games in the season which makes each individual game meaningless. If your MLB team sucks your season could be over after 50 games and you have 130+ meaningless games. NFL has the best games because each one is critical. Premier league has 38 games which is a lot but you play every team home/away which is complete balance. No “playing a weak division” like the NFL.
Also no playoffs (for the most part) in the premier league means the regular season IS the playoffs!
Not to mention a game that's supposed to last an hour take over three hours because it's constantly interrupted by time outs, stoppages and commercial breaks.
Perhaps, you should watch American college sports then. All of the “fluff” you mentioned don’t tend to happen there. The fans are just as passionate though…even more so!
@@impresarioe6824 agreed. I’m Canadian but I follow CFB and March Madness way more than the “big 4” sports
I here that alot from Europeans it's not really true...no sports fan cares about that stuff...the problem with American sports is it sold it's sole to television decades ago...all the different sports have so many commercials and fake stoppages for TV commercials that the in stadium experience suffers...l think this is why the extra entertainment developed...believe me nobody goes to a game for the halftime show and the cheerleaders...European fans seem to fixate on that stuff Americans don't even notice that stuff........Also l love the Premiere League l think both continents can enjoy the others sports why dislike anything or say something's better...it's all great l can't get enough sports!!! Hate the commercials though!!!!! Iol
I’m British and used to follow the nfl. Then I discovered college football and see so many more parallels to our football league. The teams have been around for over 100 years and won’t just up and leave to another city. Because of that the fans seem much more passionate and it just resonates more with me
This is spot on.. really why college football has become so big because it provides that community or local pride feeling that often is missing from US pro sports.
Football is part of our history. It is engraved into British society. They're not franchises. They're clubs. Big difference. Also, promotion and relegation increases the stakes and gives us highs and lows. This is why we love it.
You really hit the nail on the head with the community aspect. I think it's one of the reasons that European football fans cannot comprehend the idea of a team moving cities. One football team in England that moved - Wimbledon, moving to Milton Keynes and becoming the MK Dons - and this drew enormous criticism, arguably the club never recovered. A football club's identity comes from the community it's built around, and oftentimes conversely the community draws some of it's identity from the club. Obviously sometimes a club has to move for practical or logistical reasons, but usually huge effort has to be made to keep the identity intact.
Also worth noting in that MK Dons example, that the local fans protested against the move and then started their own club, AFC Wimbledon, so they could have a local club to support. They basically started competing at amateur/semi-pro level in the 9th division and managed to secure 6 promotions to the 3rd division where they ironically competed against MK Dons, the club that was taken away from them years earlier.
@@bookclub5021 One of the problems Wimbledon FC had was a dated ground that had been used in its non league days and the fact that despite its success on the pitch crowd attendances never increased to match their rivals. While I don't support them leaving South London, the lack of a usable stadium owned by the club and the lack of attendance by supporters made the financial case for leaving South London much easier.
@@paulmidsussex3409 It was always clear that the relocation was a financially motivated move. It was just a very a soulless decision that goes against the very thing that should be the heart and backbone of football.
Also worth remembering that Wimbledon FC were promoted into the English Football League Div 4 (now EFL League 2) in IIRC 1971 and by the 1980s were in Div 1 (now the Premier League) and won the FA Cup. With the creation of AFC Wimbledon, they have effectively risen out of Non-League football twice! Don't forget, there was no automatic promotion and relegation out of the EFL back in the 70's, most clubs who finished bottom of Div 4 didn't get relegated as the other teams in the League tended to vote for them to stay, so it was really hard and rare to get promoted into the Football League back then. My own team, Stockport County (you'll probably recognise us as the time that beat Wrexham to the championship in the series) and Halifax should have been relegated out of the EFL many times over back in the 70s and 80s as we regularly finished as the bottom 2 in Div 4.
I like NFL but it blows my mind they just move teams. St.Louis Rams moved from the middle of the continent to the coast in LA….unreal
Love this, it isn’t just Wrexham man this is the experience of every lower league team in the UK. I’m a Blackburn Rovers fan and the community is hand-in-hand with the team, as is the case with all mid/lower tier English teams. The big teams like Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool etc are a lot more international but the heart of football lies in every single UK town with their local team with maybe 2,000 - 10,000 fans each week that don’t make it onto TV or across the pond, it’s a beautiful sport for everyday working class people and I’m glad you appreciate it 🙌🏻
Yea the heart of the fanbase is local working class I'm glad my team is getting good fanbases worldwide like the Ghanaian Lions but the heartbeat is in Birmingham. My local non league team Solihull Moors gives me the non-league experience that is lost in the top flight
Rovers are my love lost. Since the Venkys got in and got rid of Williams and others who knew what they were doing in favor of Kean and Anderson who litterally sucked the life of the club I swore not to be a rovers supporter until they brought us back. Still hoping though. Uncle Jacks Blue and white army for ever
@@KA-rk9to yeah I fully agree, when they took over they were awful and I didn’t go watch them for about 3 years because they’d sack staff and managers and have terrible replacements, but I think they’ve got new advisors in in the past few years and have really turned things around and are on the up, keeping us afloat financially, gave us up to like £5mil for the transfer window, keeping the youth recruitment system at a top level and they seem to actually support managers now, a lot of massive improvements have been made and I go to about 10-15 games a season now and I’m hopeful we’ll be back in the prem soon 🔵⚪️
@@dennisgoatimer1079 yeah mate football is football, whether it’s youth, non-league, women’s football, top flight football I enjoy it all, much nicer being able to pay £5 for a local team ticket too instead of £30-£50 for bigger clubs haha
Man City used to be in your leagues :P your side probably beat them... its an emotional game at all levels, is why its the best sport
Full respect to you buddy for seeing the flaw in American sports.
I'm from the UK , a few years ago my team was relegated from the premier league , the pain is immense , but the joy of being promoted is almost worth it.
Last year there was an effort to create a European super league , where the giants of European football wanted to play against each other but with the safety of no relegation, luckily everyone in Europe can see what a con that would be , the idea that the elite have zero risk of losing money , great for those clubs and fans, but the rest of Europe have no way to join , and therefore no way of expanding their finances.
The pain of relegation can be eased by the joy of promotion , without it then what's the point. Once your team is out of the running for the superbowl what is there to play for.
If you need promotion then that is your season.
Amen to that. Relegation is like a proverbial firing squad, no team wants to endure it.
Yeah the fact that American sports don’t have promotion and relegation makes it seem fake. In fact as every season ends, the teams at the bottom of the standings tank games on purpose ti get rewarded by better draft picks for the next season. It’s all wrong.
I have pretty much never commented on a CZcams video however this deserves it , you are one of the most well spoken and level headed USA citizens I’ve ever come across , and you are still proud of your own country this is incredible thank you.
React to the story of Leicester City. They were ALMOST relegated from the premier league in 2015. The next year however they challenged for the title and won it in the end.
The odds for them winning the league at the start of season was 1 in 5000. Nobody could have predicted it. Stories like these make this sport beautiful.
I believe it was also the second year after being promoted too.
Leicester is the reason why bookies no longer offer 5,000-1 odds. Also they thought the odds were worse than 5,000 to one because they expected to make a profit out of anyone placing a bet.
The rise and success of Leicester City is the craziest underdog win in EPL history. I would have to do some research to see the last time something like that happened in the old English First Division.
Maybe it wasn't a prediction but one punter won a pile on that bet, If memory serves me right it was somewhere in the region of 5 million pounds.
@@paulmidsussex3409 The bookies made an absolute killing that year.
In American sports, business and entertainment takes the front seat, but it comes at the cost of the sports.
you haven’t heard of manchester united or chelsea then lol
@@mutouvhs843 Those are the exceptions, not the rule. It is the rule however in American sports, hence, why he said "takes the front seat"
As a fellow Dallas cowboys fan who recently fell in love with football (the real football.. not American football) I godda say: welcome my friend lmao. I’m right there with you too in that the sheer passion of football fans is what drew me in to my recent obsession with it. Was actually having this conversation with someone the other day, the relegation format is far and away the best sporting format. Wish we implemented something like that with some of the smaller American football leagues and the nfl but nfl owners would never.
Keep up the good work my man! Gonna check out W2W now because of this video
As an Englishman, I cannot understand why there is no relegation in american sports, it seems like they care more about securing their business model rather than the integrity and competitiveness of the sport. There is no interest to me in these American sports when it's all about the spectacles, high scoring games and milking the most money out of the consumer rather than following the journey of a team and becoming immersed within a fanbase. Watching the superbowl as a european is just a drag, constant breaks, advertisements, halftime shows, cheerleaders. The equivalent for us would be the Champion's league final and they've tried doing halftime shows during that recently, last year the performer was boo'ed for the entire duration of her performance to the point she came out on twitter and called the fans disrespectful 😂They tune in to watch football, not people singing and twerking on the kick off spot.
What i will say about US sports is that the college system is absolutely incredible. In A dream senario I would combine the club system of the UK with the college system of America.
@@johnbroadfoot5148 I'm from the UK but have followed nfl for 15 or so yrs now and college football for about 5. With the different divisions of college football (d1-3) would be perfect for a relegation system.
Not sure how it would work with different conferences or maybe u progress through those instead with SEC being top. Either way would work, sadly just don't see colleges and universities ever agreeing to that risk of going down.
When I learned about tanking in the NBA I cannot believe it was real. Teams purposely losing 60 games? Why would a fan go to the arena to torture themselves? It sounds like it should be illegal because it goes against the spirit of sports.
I am from Argentina, I was shocked when I learn that teams in US tank matches to get better draft picks, that's so weird.
I know you were looking for a team to follow in the Premier League- it may actually be more fulfilling to follow Wrexham’s journey (although it is likely to be a long one!) than to randomly choose a top tier team to follow as you already have an emotional connection to them. Really enjoying your content - keep it up!
Gonna be hard to follow it from the US if the matches aren't televised (outside of the show)
@@CptDangernoodle think they are trying to get permission to stream (for free) to capitalise on the attention.
I remember seeing Wrexham play a lot when they were a league club (especially playing Burnley back in the late 90's) that fanbase is unreal, they're a good club, get behind them if you choose too
Also consider Luton Town, who are very much on the rise, and Boreham Wood, a National League team who made extraodinary progress in the FA Cup last year (it took a Premier League team to eventually knock them out).
@@lilbaz8732nah, they went with espn+. 😭😭 so rip.
Wrexham is currently in the 5th tier of football, that's teams approximately ranked 93 to 114, but as you probably know by now at the end of each season the teams at the top of each tier go up to the tier above for the next season and the teams at the bottom go down to the tier below. The top 4 tiers are all professional teams but the system of promotion and relegation goes all the way down the pyramid and includes about 7000 teams. Many if not most of the teams in the 5th tier are fully professional. One club currently in the 5th tier, Oldham, was in the Premier League in the 1990s and has slipped down the divisions
There are also professionel teams in the 6th tier... but I think you have to be professionel to play in the top 4 tiers.
I think there are only two or three semi professional teams in the National League (5th tier) nowadays.
@@Rebslager There is no requirement for a club to be professional to gain entry the Football League.
@@georgerubypoppy1063didn’t know that ngl but if you aren’t professional you would really struggle to stay up
@@njm1259 They would really struggle, that`s true.
However. Queen`s Park, who are currently riding high in the Scottish Championship, only turned professional in 2019.
You summed this up really well, its not entertainment for us (especially as a portsmouth fan as our team are terrible atm) it is about community and supporting/ representing your city/ town. I remember when we had been relegated all the way down to league two (fourth tier of English football) and me and my dad took 6-7 hour car journey to York, their away stand had no roof at the time, we lost 4-1 and got absolutely pissed on all game, but we kept singing as fans, drenched, because we were representing our city and proud of being where we are from, its tribal here.
your spot on with your analysis...i am fortunate to live in Wrexham and what Rob and Ryan have done for the community is immeasurable and its certainly put the pride back in Wrexham...the newly appointed city status has also created a real buzz here, so its going to be an exciting journey for us all, so thanks for your honest feedback, its much appreciated
Luke, I really appreciate the love you're giving to the sport after actually seeing it without the usual american biases. I leave you with a quote by the great Bill Shankly: "Some people believe football is a matter of life and death, I am very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that."
"Football is life" - Danny Rojas (AFC Richmond)
@@makadeni123 still, even that tragedy is part of the mystique of the club. That united the community even more.
@@makadeni123 of course not, like you said, is a figure of speech like you said hahaha
@makadeni123 no ATM was talking about the quote , it was you who mentioned 96 dead. Not 'we' but 'you' were talking about Hillsborough, and also are you a medium ? I did not realise that the dead had begun talking let alone saying life is more important than football..I know people who were at Hillsborough and I know they would never feel the urge to use much loved Shankly quip to make the point you seem to want to make. Why do you ??
@makadeni123 well done you have just made yourself look even dumber.. It appears you have no comprehension of anything other than your own limited opinion/intellect .Try reading back your messages and then maybe pause for a while before you properly read my comment. Then think why would somebody even bother to make comment about what you said.. get involved eh? And then get past fact I am not a troll or want to have a pop at you and think again before jumping the gun and spouting stuff like ''braindead and don't understand'' and honestly wonder to yourself 'maybe it's me ' not him. And then maybe you will have learned something about how you discuss/debate an alternative point of view than your own.. Believe me I am as far from braindead as you are from objectivity and pragmatism.. maybe look both those big words up in dictionary before you retort eh?
I gotta say, I love watching you grow into a football fan. It warms my heart.
Good on you for supporting your local team mate. The satisfaction you get from seeing your local team doing well is like nothing else in sports, it means so much more. Hope FC Dallas have a good season for you.
From my understanding:
In USA, sports is an entertainment, something to pass the time.
In Europe (and I'm sure it's the same if not even more in South America and the rest of the world) sports, in particular football, is a life style.
I'm not that into sports myself however I know people who care seriously depressed if their team plays a bad practice match in preseason.
People take days off of work to go support their team.
When Sweden (were I live) plays a national game, the companies I've worked at have paused work so that the workers can gather to watch the games live together. I don' see that happening in USA (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Not wrong at all. There are fans who make our sports their lifestyle but not on the same level as football clubs worldwide. Americans will not stop the business day completely for sports. (We might watch the sports while we work tho)
@@lukessportsacademy IN South América football = religion
@@lukessportsacademy We had a yearly work event, trajectory discussion and dinner after, and there was literally a room for dancing and a room for the world cup because people would have stayed home otherwise from a food,booze,dance,no pay party :D
@@lukessportsacademy Football is religion. Being an Ultra is a way of life. Weekend home game, then during the week you take the bus (full of the faces you see all over your country and all over Europe all the time) from Germany, for example, to Greece for a European Cup game (Champions League or European League) and then quickly back again. Work. Every single day of holiday is spent on work. Because as an Ultra or someone who simply attends every game (just because you're at every game doesn't mean you're an Ultra), ALL your holiday days go to travelling away with your club and your friends. Many cut back in their mid-30s and no longer go to every game. Because as an ultra of Dortmund or Bayern or Milan, Napoli etc. it can easily be that you travel 18 to 32 times from August to the end of May across the whole country and continent to other cities to see league and cup games. Especially the European Cup games. You often end up in the craziest places and countries. It's simply magical when your team plays in Rome, for example, you travel for hours by fan bus and then meet the 10,000 fans (significantly more the more important the game and the opponent) in the city centre, sing your songs and then march together on the street to the stadium, singing all the while for your great love, the club. Pyros are set off throughout. You start to love the smell. You experience the home fans and their fan culture in or maybe outside the stadium. I was in Naples and there football is really religion and Maradona is God. You can only understand that if you've been there. It was so great that they became champions again after a long time. But even if the opponent is in Moldova or Belarus, which doesn't sound so inviting, you're still there with at least 3,000 people at -20 degrees. Football can arouse a kind of emotion like nothing else in life. Regarding your search for a club: "You don't choose the club, it's given to you. You'll understand what I mean when you think about why you became a Cowboys fan in the first place.
Hi mate, really loving your channel. I'm a 41 year old Scottish football fan from just outside Edinburgh. Your videos have really spoken to me and a number of years ago I took a sort of reverse journey to you on a smaller scale and learned about the NFL, rules, structure etc. Its a sport I still enjoy but local football and my team Heart of Midlothian is my true love. Talking of community and History. In 1914 Hearts had a successful team that was doing well. That whole team joined up en masse to fight in World War 1 and ultimately didn't come home. Its still something intrinsic to our club over 100 years later and being at our ground Tynecastle when it's Remembrance weekend in this country is an incredible thing. We're not particularly successful but we have our moments and it's stuff like the story of MaCraes Battalion that make it matter. Big props to your channel mate.
Are there any good documentaries about those men who fought in WW1? I would love to watch that!
Hi Luke. Here's a link to a documentary on it czcams.com/video/VLgrhOlVbTE/video.html
@@lukessportsacademy a lot of clubs have similar stories from the First World War over here.
There is a slightly closer approximation to the supporter community culture in English football, and that's small-town hockey culture in Canada. The loyalty and community built around local hockey teams is something special.
Notts County FC fan here - the team just above Wrexham - and I genuinely feel the feels this year! We are dying to get automatic promotion ourselves. But the league is so tight! Such a hard league to get out of. I really hope both NCFC and Wrexham get promotors this year 💪🏼
Good luck from all at cardiff
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Good luck!
Hardluck mate awesome match though
I noticed you took the time to like almost every contribution to the comments section on this video, which is an appropriate reflection of how highly you regard the concept and importance of a community spirit. Good on you!
I'm more of a hockey fan than a football fan, but even though hockey clubs in Germany have less supporters than football clubs, the community is also there. Every single home game, I stand in the same spot in the stands, but after my dad passed away, I missed a couple of games because I was not in the mood to go to a sports game. People from other fan clubs noticed I wasn't there in a while and apparently they asked members of my fan club where I'm at and they told them what happened. The very first game I was back in the stadium, a lot of people, even some I've barely talked to before and who just knew me from seeing me in the stands every game came up to me, offered their condolences and gave me hugs.
We don't all know each other in the stands, but when it matters, we're there for each other.
Welshman here and a new subscriber. In September this year, Wrecsam was given city status becoming Cymru's (Wales) 7th city!
UK football fan here. Really enjoyed this thoughtful and passionate piece. "It means something!" Would be great to see a follow up video with your reaction to Wrexham's end to the season and the final game. Thanks for you work. I enjoyed it.
I had a very similar train of thought when I moved back to Germany and got to experience the 2020 Euros and Bundesliga season following it. I was in Germany for a good amount of my childhood and got to experience the 2006 World Cup, which was the first sporting event I ever got invested in as a kid. And when I returned, I found my hiatus didn't kill my passion for the sport of soccer/football, and I got invested in the team of my hometown (VfB Stuttgart) it was a rough 21/22 season with excitement, heartbreak, and drama. Not to mention an intense battle against relegation. I even got my wife and I to go to the teams first game of the season at mercedes--benz stadium, it was such an experience that cemented that I was a stuttgart supporter and soccer lover. All I could think about was my love I developed for this team and what they meant to the people and city I grew up around. I had people who didn't understand and had all the same comments and criticisms, I tried to watch other sports but I just couldn't get as invested without the stakes of relegation. It's something I kinda wish MLS would adopt but in due time who knows what could happen. I appreciate this channel and your journey to find this sport and its passion fans it reminds me of my own journey. Keep on supporting your club and I hope you enjoy many more games!
I don't know if you realise this but you are not only learning about Football but also raising interest in American Football amongst your viewers
Nobody outside US cares about American football it’s terrible so he no raising anything putting off more like
The biggest barrier to American Football is the rules. Once you get them, it's an amazing and fascinating sport. The best way to describe it succinctly is that it is High Speed, High Impact, Chess.
The strategy is just out of this world. Like you might get a team that run a certain play 2-3 times in a game and have it either not work, or not do much, JUST so in the 4th quarter they can line it up again but do something different to catch the defence napping.
I'm a brit but American Football really is a joy to watch. If you want to get into it, want to get the rules, the best way is to get a computer game and play that for a bit.
As for no relegation, yes that is problematic, however jacking up the stakes like that is what has caused the inequality in competition through finance.
The US system of drafting and giving the worst teams the first picks along with the salary cap, keeps things competitive and makes success spread around the league. Your team might be trash for a few years, but after those years they might be the best. That is simply not possible in football (the odd outlier excepted)
Played throughout school, was a big fan of NFL… much more soulless than football. ⚽
It’s a circus at the professional level. TV timeouts are ridiculous. In person you pay price gouging tickets, food, drinks, parking, etc. to a dragged out a game that will steal 3+ hours of your day for 11 minutes of actual play.
Not in the slightest.
Lived in usa 25 years, i tried, i really did, but all us sports are vapid, lacking any but the most basic strategy or tactics and the league format renders 90% of games meaningless exhibition matches anyway.
Glad you enjoyed the Wrexham journey mate. Good on you for supporting your local team. Let us know how your first live game goes
It's because America is too big, you can't really feel as much of a close connection with a team if you live 50 miles away. Most Brits live / grow up a couple of miles (at most) away from their local club. We leave the house, walk to the pub for a few pints then walk to the ground, it just feels so much different when it's on your doorstep. Look at grounds on Google maps in the UK, most (not all) are right there in the middle of a town/city, they're surrounded by houses, the community. My team (Sheffield United) is surrounded by houses on all four sides, exactly how it was 100 years ago. And this also makes the rivalries more real, your rival club is only a couple of miles away too. You live next to opposing fans, you work with them, you're friends with them and they're in your family. It just makes losing hurt a lot more when it's all around you.
I honestly dont buy that explanaition. A city like Dallas should be able to support maybe 10 clubs at different levels and have a derby between the two best. Same goes for Houston and Austin. And that is just one state. Imagine if each state had a pyramid system where the state winners could organize some Champions League organized between 12 or 24 other states. Just spitballing but you get the idea. La Liga right now have a club with a stadium capacity of under 12.000, but they are there and just beat Real Madrid.
Problem is that American sports is basically a cartel for lack of a better word. There is 32 (I think) teams and they make hand of fist. Its a money machine since they cant get relegated so where is the incentive?
@@johan8969 The problem is that the DALLAS teams are not actually in Dallas. The Dallas Cowboys are homed in Arlington and Dallas FC is homed in Frisco, etc. Teams are located far away from actual city centers and have humongous parking lots that you have to drive 30+ minutes to actually get to. You can never replicate that feeling in the US. You can't just walk from home to a pub and then to stadium, back to the pub.
There's a reason tailgating is a thing, but it's just not the same whatsoever. No amount of tailgating will recreate the same feel of communal identity that a football team in Europe develops.
Rubbish, Toronto is over a 2 hour drive away and pretty much all of Ontario is watching the playoffs. Go Leafs go.
My Uncle, Barry Ramsey was a lifelong season ticket ticket holder at Wrexham. I'm not a Wrexham supporter myself (Bangor City, for my sins) but I did go to a lot of games with him over the years. including my first European games. I loved it, the atmosphere was raw and it instilled in me a passion for footy that is still with now more than 50 years later.
You get it. nice one. I'm now subscribed to your site. keep up the good work.
I am really enjoying your discovery of football and thought I'd add a few observations.
I thank the day over 100 years ago that the administrators of the English football league decided that when they first extended it from a single league into two divisions that they implemented a relegation/promotion system. As you are now aware those initial first and second divisions extended further into a third and fourth division. That was as far as the football league extended and remained with those four divisions for nearly 70 years. The teams outside the football league's four divisions competed in what became known as "non-league", a whole pyramid of ever smaller leagues and divisions.
Although relegation and promotion has always existed between the top four divisions it was extremely rare for a non-league club to replace one of the league members. Each league member had a vote that they could cast at the end of the season to determine whether the worst clubs in the whole league (the bottom four in the fourth division) would be replaced by one of the top teams in non-league. Eventually as the professionalism of the unofficial fifth division improved one and eventually two promotion slots were granted such that the bottom two in the football league would be automatically relegated out of the football league into the "non-league".
At the same time that those changes were happening at the bottom of the league structure, in 1992 massive changes took place at the top of English football with a separation of the first division into a new entity all of its own that you now know as the Premier League. Through a few incarnations the 2nd, 3rd and 4th division have become known as the Championship, League 1 and League 2.
By keeping more and more money in the sport in the Premier League it has become a global phenomenon and now attracts many US individuals and companies as owners of the top clubs.
Ironically, by way of protecting their investment and avoiding suffering the financial losses (only caused by the fiscal chasm created by the Premier League's breakaway 30 years ago) many of these owners would like to see the Premier League become a closed shop so that they do not have to face the jeopardy of relegation. If they get their way in the future it will spell the death knell of English football outside of the Premier League.
There are hundreds of clubs across England (and Wales) in the English league whose stories would share much of what you saw in Wrexham's but whose profile will never be raised high enough to get the chance to tell it.
The elation of promotion and the tension that comes with it can ONLY be matched by the joy and relief of avoiding relegation. So even the worst teams in any of the four divisions (or the dozens below) get the chance to experience a feeling that you might think is reserved for the winners of the biggest trophies. The beauty of football is that the joy of one person at ANY level can match that of a fan of a Real Madrid or a Liverpool or whoever.
There is a hype about the top clubs and the free publicity they get from coverage on all forms of media means that many fans are attracted to them but those who follow the less well trodden path to their local club and invest emotionally into it may suffer for many years but will eventually be rewarded with a final day escape from relegation or a promotion. You only appreciate the highs if you've experienced the lows.
Don't go along to FC Dallas expecting our demanding to be entertained. Just watch and enjoy the rarity that is a winning goal when it comes along or the last minute equaliser that stops you losing a game and as your appreciation of the rarity of a goal grows so will your emotional reaction to one going in increase exponentially. I hope you enjoy many years of following your new team and I hope to watch you attending a World Cup match in Texas in four years time!
Good luck.
Good summary but you have forgotten that originally there was Division one, Division two and Third divisions North and South. Wrexham spent many seasons in the Third division North. When the third divisions split int third and fourth Wrexham seesawed between division three and four avoiding relegation from the fourth on one occasion. Then we had our heighdays in the 1970's when we reached Division two , now called the Championship. Cup runs, European football, what a team!
In the USA, you are customers first, fans afterwards. In football fans come first, customers after. Point being:
Last year Villareal (an underdog Spanish team) made it to quarters vs Bayern Munich (powerhouse German team) in the Champions League. Villareal’s club actually purchased all the visitor seats at Bayern’s Stadium, to re-sell to their fans for 60% off so that more fans would be able to attend and support their club.
Fans will love their clubs, however much the club loves its fans. This is why passion is unmatched in football, because if the ship sinks, then we all sink down with it.
You can have nothing but the utmost respect for the fans of clubs who fall down the leagues and yet maintain the highest levels of support. Despite living in Manchester, my father was Scouse, and he brought me up with a healthy regard for the rivalry between the two great cities of Liverpool and Manchester. Consequently, I had little love for either of the two Manchester teams, but when City went down two divisions and broke all attendance records in the third tier I gained a HUGE respect for them as a club. Now I pretty much wish them all the very very best with their insane billions - they deserve it!
I like to think if my club, Everton went down, we would maintain our hardcore support - though I sincerely hope it doesn't happen.
I did feel for the blue half of Merseyside six weeks before the end of last season when most wise punters had at least a fiver on the Toffees going down. Must have been difficult to stomach while the Red half was still alive in all competitions and could have won the lot with a bit more luck. That would have stung
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Up the fucking toffees lad
There really is nothing like the passion football fans have for there local team. I'm from Nottingham in the UK an when nottingham forest won the play offs last season an got promoted back to the premier league for the first time in 23 years the emotions from the fans was second to none the whole play off journey the fans supported an traveled for the team an when they came back to Nottingham with the trophy an you had 10,000 plus people there in the market square in the town on a weekday afternoon singing an chanting it was magic. I'm also an fan of American sports big fan of the NFL an the NBA because I too love what you guys do in terms of the showmanship at games it is a spectacle in its own right but for me the passion an the emotion of football is the best
Great vid Luke, glad you enjoyed the Wrexham series. I'm from a town called Yeovil, who play in the same league. We were the only team to beat Wrexham home & away last season yet we struggled to stay in the league. Just goes to show that any team can beat any other on their day! Keep up the great work.
Cheers from the states! You all have a special culture and we appreciate you all from afar!
Not exactly true, Wrexham won 2-1 at Yeovil last season.
Wrexham won at Yeovil. I was there.
The community sense of football club in Europe is often rooted in the very foundation of the club. It can be founded by their religious community, their local company/economic activity (Railway, iron and steel, dockers ...) or/and social class (blue collar club, white collar/upper class club) which strengthen the identification to the sport and also make rivalries even bitterer
I finished this series today and I think it may be one of the best deep dives into football that I have ever seen! Rob and Ryan being such outstanding and gifted drama-documentary experts really nailed it with this brilliant Netflix series! We have had a few very good British 'fly on the wall' football documentaries but this in-depth study of a club like Wrexham is a short cut to not only understanding the historic, cultural and social significance of football but also regarding British working class people themselves! 'The People's Game'!
This brilliant 'study' really is a must watch mainly because it is also being replicated right across the world... ish!
Season 2 is looking like it might be even better now though! Seems to me that when Yanks & Limey's pull together special things do happen!
I love this soooo much! I loved the series, bought memberships to the club and we're going to see the Wrexham-Woking match at the end of January. I'm most excited to get to know the folks in the community.
The King visited Wrexham stadium today and talked to the owners and staff . I believe this will feature in season 2.
I was glued to season 1 so I can't wait for the next one to be released.
Nice channel by the way, well done 👍
The relegation and promotion race every season is more impactful than the title race. Yes it's great for the guys to successfully become champions in the premier league, but the stakes are much higher for the fan bases on the bubble
Absolutely. Clubs fighting to avoid relegation have so much more to play for than teams that are merely bottom of the NFL.
As soon as you ripped the parcel open and put on the FC Dallas shirt I got a huge smile on my face! So glad to see you have newfound joy (and misery) of supporting your local team :) Even if sports has become a big business, there are still so many communal aspects and a real sense of unity when we gather around our team to support them. Thoroughly enjoyed the video. Wishing your team all the best from Finland. ps. I'm a long time West Ham United (English premier league football team) fan.
Liked and subscribed, you sir are an honest diamond! I am from Wales! You are so refreshing, it is so nice to hear an honest non judgemental opinion! Keep up the grind man, you are great.
Yeah the tiers of the leagues in England go way way below the 5th tier. My dad for example follows Kings Lynn town since that's where he was born, and that is the 6th tier of the football pyramid. I think watching some of these lower tier games would be interesting for you to see the tactical differences, and also I'd suggest learning about Sunday League football here in the UK too!
great vid and I love the insights into the american sports side of things. enjoying your journey!
Thank you for using my clip at the start! Great video as well
Yeah man, been following your channel for updates on Wrexham! Great content
I'm a little late to the party but this was such a wonderful video. The transition from not knowing anything about a sport and then getting hooked to it is something I genuinely believe everyone should experience. In that spirit, I'll share a little bit about the club I support. I'm from India and admittedly football isn't our forte. However, the status club football is very different specifically in a few regions. The club I support is East Bengal. It's a storied club that has strong links with the Indian independence and the migrated population from the erstwhile Bengal which was broken into two parts - one of which became Bangladesh. The sense of community so evidently visible in Wrexham is something that I can completely relate with as the club represents the community. I hope that one day I'll be able to visit Wrexham and maybe through this comment I have piqued your interest in my club as well.
This is honestly an amazing video, im from canada but have watched the english league for 9-10 years, im 19. North American fans will never understand the passion involved with european football and the drama involved, kudos to you for making this video and understanding the difference of passion that goes into the european game
I honestly think the lack of promotion and relegation really holds back the American game, it gives ever game meaning when there's the possibility of relegation. I support a small EFL team (Gillingham) and some of my fondest memories are from great escapes.
you're a brilliant narrator/storyteller with very valid points. New sub!
I’m watching this as I wait the second half of the chelsea game against fullham where one of our legend players scored a goal against us, now playing for Fullham, and yeah, it’s more than a spectacle for sure, chelsea is down rn for sure but I’m still here. Great video!
The closest American sports comes to the European football atmosphere is our college football and I think it’s because it represents your school, state and community and you feel more apart of the team
100% and even then, it still doesn't compare to the passion Europeans show for their clubs/teams! I mostly watch Italian Football (Serie A) and those fans are standing the entire time chanting, yelling, waving flags, lighting up flares, etc. It doesn't stop even if they're losing. It's the same for the lower-tier clubs as well, doesn't matter if it's a good year or bad year, they are there for you every match!
Wrexham is Wales’ oldest professional football club. The Racecourse Ground is historic too. I’d love to see them rise through the ranks and maybe get to the Championship or something one day. It will be a tall order, but such things are possible in football.
Well, they have played at that level before, albeit briefly, Ed, so nothing to say they can`t do so again. I remember visiting whilst supporting my club and having a good day out. From memory the locals were most friendly and welcoming, and I`d like to see them back at that level too.
I believe it has the record for an oldest existing stadium that held an international match. Wrexham have lots of support throughout North Wales btw.
Hope to see you play Blackburn one day, a club that had a similar story but not quite on the same level as having Hollywood visit :)
Well I'm glad that Welcome to Wrexham enlightened you about the Beautiful Game like many other Americans. It's also great that you've taken to supporting FC Dallas. Another CZcamsr named Da Bronco started going to FC Dallas Games and he has been enlightened as well. I grew up mostly a Eurosnob not caring about the Domestic Game until I decided to give this new Club Atlanta United FC a chance. Best decision ever. These days I hardly pay attention to the NFL Schedule anymore, but when the MLS Schedule drops I go Circling because Away Days are the best Days. Orlando, Nashville, Ft. Lauderdale, New York, and Charlotte has been crossed out. So I'm hoping for a Texas Away Day.
Football (soccer) does that. Once you go footie, you don't go back. 😎
@@DrumToTheBassWoop I was indoctrinated into it! My Dad is from Cameroon and I was in a stroller when Cameroon upset a Maradona led Argentina in Italia 90.
Great video. I binge watched the entire series and completely fell in love with Wrexham AFC. I can’t wait until season 2 later this year. But I want to add on to what you were saying at 8:25 regarding promotion and relegation. If American sports had promotion and relegation, it would put a stop or at least deter teams from doing something I absolutely despise, and that’s tanking. You see it all the time, an NFL or NBA team will lose game after game to begin a season, and once the playoffs are no longer in reach, they’ll purposefully put out weaker players to try and lose games, just so they can have first pick of an exciting college player who may not even pan out on the professional level. It’s a slap in the face to the fans who pay good money to go to the stadium and just want their team to win without caring about what’s gonna happen next year. I think promotion and relegation would be awesome, but unfortunately it’s never gonna happen. Whether it’s the NFL, NBA, or whatever, they’d have to restructure the foundation of the entire league, and I could see a lot of people absolutely hating it.
When you talk about relegation and precise england , you have to know that it's not just them but every leagues in the world doing that. The sole difference will be the number of teams that come up or down because it's related to the amount of teams there in a country. For example this year in France we have 4 teams that will get relegated , I think in south Asia they do the last 4 too.
I might be wrong but I think England has the most number of fully professional divisions with 4, with more clubs such as Wrexham in the non-league system that are also professional, and it has the oldest Football Association and league system, which is why England is brought up.
This really made me cry. I’m not even from England, or anything like that. I’m from Alabama. I’ve really gotten to appreciate soccer over the last year. I watch this video and read about 100 comments… America is really missing out. I would love to see promotion and relegation with the MLB or the NFL… Imagine what that would do for the sports?
Wrexham is in Wales (Cymru) 🏴
Baseball of the past is the closest. The way it started and grew in the first 75-100 years is similar to communities like Wrexham where the local team, whether it be small minor league and independent teams or teams in places like Brooklyn, Boston, New York, St. Louis, etc… was ingrained in the community.
Agree. Thus the pain of Brooklyn fans having their hearts ripped out by the Dodgers packing up and moving 3000+ miles to the coast. (Same with the NY Giants).
Great video dude.
And you’re spot on with your breakdown. Sadly money has had a big impact on the premier league (top league) in English football as there are a “top 6” teams who are always expected to finish at the top.
HOWEVER, rightly so, they are still at risk that some outlying team will beat them.
I’m an Aston Villa fan, and have been since birth (aka. Not by choice!). We’ve traced my family back 600 years and they’ve not really moved from the same place in Birmingham, UK which is where Aston Villa are from.
My dad, grandad and great grandad all supported villa and it’s possible my 2x great grandad did too as they are one of the oldest teams in the UK.
So as you can see, much like the Wrexham fans, it’s very much in the blood.
Hopefully one day you might get to come to the UK and witness a match live. It’s quite the experience, especially the smell of frying onions from the burger vans which frequent footie matches!
Cheers
It isn't just winning means something. Losing means something!
Without jeopardy in play, why should I care when a trophy is lifted?
So true. Any sports leagues without relegation in my opinion rewards mediocray. Teams like Detroit lions in the NFL and Okland Athletics in the MLB almost act as a development team for the rest of the league. They find good players don't retain them because they don't want to spend the money. Since there is no consequences with losing they keep doing that, and the poor fans are left supporting a team which is stuck in the same situation. And the club is content with being mediocre because they can stay in the league.
You should have a look for Wrexham v Boston years back maybe 14 years ago now. Last game of the season, whoever lost got relegated, Wrexham pulled the game back to win and everyone celebrated on the pitch. Still one of my favourite moments watching live football and I don't even support them.
Love your channel man. I'm an American who love both football and American football and I always encourage people from out of this country, and in this country to just watch the other sport, and try to find a passion to try to find a team to love from either. We all can love sports vehicle of different type of sports. We all can respect each other sports and that’s the beauty about sports. Up the Reds #GoLiverpool
Great video. Our national trophy had 732 teams enter it this year, anyone of which “could” be the champions. Love that you “get it”
Actually wrexham plays in the fifth tier of english football, they're not in the professional leagues anymore
Professional means getting paid. Most players get paid in the national league, so they're professional. Leagues aren't split into professional and non professional. It's just more likely that the further you go down the ladder, players won't be paid.
I think he technically means they are not part of the English Football League system (EFL), they are in what's known as "Non-league football", also known as The Conference. They are still technically professionals but drop any lower and they'd be semi-pro
@@alzer6467 well they're semi-pro, the National League Is not officially considered a professional league
@@alzer6467 yes and no. They are pro in the sense they get paid. They are also below the official pyramid of English pro football which is the top four tiers.
@@shish7755 the difference is that the EFL manages the 3 leagues above it. Leagues aren't considered professional or non professional.
Watching a team that gets relegated hurts and makes you question why you bother, but if they do well and get promoted it's the best feeling ever
I really enjoyed this video Luke, and found it thought provoking. Thanks.
Hey just found your channel.. I watched the Wrexham game on our BT Sports channel we have here in the Uk.. Our passion for football is probably an eye opener for US citizens but it’s the passion we love whether they win or lose. My Dad is from Wrexham & he’s been a fan of the club all his life. I’m a Liverpool FC fan.. (don’t boo hiss me lol) & my brother is Manchester United! Anfield for me is like coming home, it’s a temple!
In wind & rain or sun I’m there cheering my club on. Wrexham is buzzing atm & long may it continue! Ty for posting this video & Ty Ryan & Rob!!
Sometimes I think that a team having a bad few years can actually unify the fan base and reignite the passion about the team. Because I support a team called Norwich and we're what you call a yo-yo team because we're constantly being relegated and promoted to and from the premier League. It can be pretty disheartening and feel like you're in a rut when You're one of the best teams in the second division but you just don't have the financial support to keep up with teams in the premier League
I'm also a Canaries fan. And I'm also an expat... when I was back in the UK prior to Covid, I got the train from Kings Cross to Norwich. A group of US Air Force servicemen from the Lakenheath air base got on the train and we got chatting. They too were Canaries fans and were headed to Carrow Road for a match. They could easily have travelled to London and supported one of the big Premier League teams there.
Nothing to do with financial support you lot just can’t handle a relegation battle lol
Nice supporting your local team! If I could pick an US-Team I would choose Detroit City FC, because they're sort of a sister club to my team FC St. Pauli from Hamburg, Germany where I am from. But DCFC are not in the MLS and without relegation they can't get there. St. Pauli are also second Bundesliga but maybe someday we get back into the first division.
3:10 - 3:14 I'm so glad you included "pro" in there. My club's 1st team plays 5 levels BELOW Wrexham and, locally at least, there are another 4 levels below us.
Wimbledon fan here. It's good to hear an outsiders perspective on English football and particularly the lower league teams like Wrexam. We have our own story and quite a bit of a following from the US. Its because people love the passion, stories and supporters.
Really enjoyed your review as a UK viewer. If this series was your foot in the door, definitely check the story of Leicester City winning the league in 15/16. It broke the mould of the richest clubs being assumed to win the league and did so much for the community and the team as a smaller club, never a favourite to win the league.
watch from Brockley to the big time, Ian Wright and Rocastle documentary youll be back to thank me
I find it incredible that American sports don't have relegation. No better feeling in sport than seeing your team stay up on the last day of the season.
Yep, in fact, Relegation is entirely counter to the American sport culture... where one of the prime virtues is "There's always next year."
The idea of punishing a side to such an extent, purely for performance in our minds is like kicking a dog when it's hurt.
seeing your team win the league maybe?
There's nothing like the feeling a club gives you. I was a volunteer at my local amateur team for ten years until it was destroyed by bad ownership and 116 years of history disappeared literally within 24 hours. Played on a Saturday, decided to close it down on the Sunday and started taking the ground to bits on the Monday morning, with no announcement, no explanation and no attempt to sell the club made first. There's a book, written by the late American journalist Joe McGuinness, called The Miracle of Castel di Sangro that you might like. It's about a small Italian team that makes it to the second division of Italian pro football and it's the best football book I've ever read.
Just to add on from my last comment. It is great to see you take this seriously. Football (soccer) us definitely getting bigger in the US and you having the World Cup again will boost that popularity. I hope you enjoy your experience of FC Dallas. Good luck
You might mention it in the video but I really think that high school football is the closest thing to supporting your local soccer/football team get in America and Collage football is the closest thing you get to professional soccer/football. I truly enjoy watching Collage football more than the NFL nowadays which is in some ways crazy but in others make so much sense
Totally. The atmosphere at college games is electric and very communal
Glad you're supporting your local MLS club. I hate that a lot of Americans have full bought in to Wrexham, buying kits, waking up early to watch the matches... but not supporting their local MLS club.
Exactly, it actually misses the point on what the show was about.
@@Vincent.Wilson it's not the same though. FC Dallas could lose every game of the season and nothing bad happens.
I would have to disagree as well the mls has no stakes to it no relegation or promotion why support your local club when they'll just be stuck at their level forever no matter how well they do, wrexham has a chance to be promoted for the first time in decades a lot more emotion towards that
@@MrNickcafc That has nothing to do with the love for a club. It should be your representation of your community, your ancestory, your pride. Support them whoever is in front of you, with the same passion. The love for your club isn't anything to do with the competition. Yes, obv you get more excitement against larger opposition but the passion for your own club should be the same regardless.
@@Nadia-kr4np The passion and love for your club should initially be just that, for what your club represents and for your community. Then, whatever challenges are infront of you you support regardless. Saying nah, need league structures and things to support my club passionately is missing the point completely in my humble opinion.
Looking through the comments you'll find so many stories from so many teams. And thats a big part of why we have the passion we do. Every team has been through and is still going through a character arc and redemption story.
From the best beard in wales!(it’s me on WTW) enjoyed the video thank you for the support 🙏 up the town❤
You should watch Arsenal All or Nothing on prime! They’re such a great team that have had a tumultuous few years and that’s a great look at premiere league life
finishing 4th in the premier league is tumultuous?..try following coventry,sunderland,leeds,charlton,ipswich etc...arsenal fans support a trophy cabinet and expect to simply turn up and add to it
@@ianharris879 by top team standards and they placed lower the previous two. obviously I don’t think they’ve had a worse time than mid and low table teams 😑
Welcome my friend! We've been waiting for you!⚽🎉
As someone who grew up loving Basketball, and then eventually getting into Football (⚽), i totally resonate with this
The problem, as with pretty much most things that are currently not great about the USA, is that everything is beholden to the mighty dollar and no way are franchise owners going to agree to, or vote for, a system that could see them kicked out of their cosy league and hence lose access to the immense amounts of money involved. All American sports franchises have always been seen and operated as businesses. Most football teams world-wide were originally sports team that have had to adapt to being businesses. This is a huge difference.
We have a lot of Americans buying into English football clubs. Liverpool and Chelsea being two. We had the Superleague fiasco a few years when a number of super clubs secretly developed and promoted a super league extracting itself from their traditional league to form a closed shop with a cabal of original club never getting relegated. I believe J W Henry wanted this to happen and supported it. However, to be fair to him it was driven by Juventus and two Spanish clubs who were in financial trouble. The Premier League wanted to join but the backlash was real, substantial and rabid. Needless, to say they backed down.
Please check out the movie Goal: Living the dream. In fact do a reaction video to it. It’s an amazing movie about a Mexican-American immigrant playing in the premier league.
Yesss that movie is goated
Really enjoyed watching this, very well put. Another cool thing is the play-offs, 2 teams travel to the Capital Citie;s Stadium - Wembley in London and the winner gets promotion. These are often teams that would never be on Sports channels but are displayed on mainstream TV across the Country for everyone to watch, it gives the smaller teams a big stadium and increases money generated.
I started watching Welcome to Wrexham at the beginning of October and it totally had the exact same effect on me. The passion of the fans lured me in to investigate the gam further. The last two and a half months have been a rabbit hole of watching countless matches and every futbol documentary I could get my hands on. I initially thought I would find a Premier League team to follow, but the game is so intertwined with other teams and leagues that I have now gotten into La Liga, Bundesliga, La LigaMX, MLS and even the USL. I;ve gotten to the point where I have completely tuned out the NFL this year. I'm addicted to futbol now and the World Cup has not helped LOL.
W2W is a good place to start when getting into football as quite frankly both Rob and Ryan are learning the sport as they go through it I would highly recommend Sunderland Til I Die on Netflix that series I feel is better it gives more tense scenes then Wrexham and it's more from the fans perspective then W2W
I love seeing fellow US sports fans realizing that soccer in Europe and other places with historic teams create a community that has existed for years. The heritage built into some of these teams that have hundredes of years of tradition is insane. I found my team by a weird set of circumstances and have enjoyed an insane rollercoaster of emotions since following them almost 10 years ago. I chose Liverpool FC because I was a massive beatles fan and playing FIFA i saw the name of the city they were from. Liverpool when I started watching were pretty dreadful. But they have come back to being perennial european competitors. I think the largest difference in the US is that there is no grassroots sports, its all controlled by the rich people who bought into the league and will fight tooth and nail to keep pro rel out of america because a meritocracy is a myth. Business owners will never agree to the potential of loosing the guaranteed exposure because there team isnt good. American sports are business first, just look at tv timeouts in football and baseball just to sell more advertisements. The business models are different and the way they are set up us sports will be stuck in there ways.
In all honesty mate, as a Brit who loves English/European football, but also a huge fan of American sports (Houston Rockets baby) I just kind of think different sports cultures lends itself to different experiences. I love NA sports for it is. It is huge, it's grand, it's a spectacle and I love that it's very different from European sports.
You still get the community aspect of from college sports, and most NBA/NFL fans are also huge fans of a college team and I think you can get similar community closeness from that as we get from supporting our local teams (although I would say the local community thing is beginning to be eroded from the big PL clubs, I'm a Chelsea fan and being a fan of my club is not even remotely close to being the same experience as a fan of a small town community club like Wrexham).
Honestly I wouldn't change a thing about American pro sports. It's great the way it is.
There's just one thing missing.
Jeopardy
@@matthewmalpeli Yeah but I get that from following European sports. American sports have always been a closed shop, with expansion teams being added every now and again. That's their model and it has worked very well so far.
It ties into the draft system from college sports and the parity they have installed by having the worst teams pick first from the incredible talents ready to join the league.
As I said totally different system that works well for what it's supposed to do. They've created an amazingly entertaining sport and I think it's just fine the way it is.
Since I'm guessing you live in/around the Dallas/DFW region, the Londoner Pubs (locations in Addison & Colleyville) are great places to watch the Premier League! I live in Dallas myself and our supporters group for Aston Villa meet there at the Colleyville location for every match. With it being Boxing Day, every club will be playing so if you're around you'd really enjoy the authentic atmosphere of the place
I understand exactly what you are saying. I lived in Swansea , South Wales for the first 25 years of my life then moved to Dallas for 35 years and then retired to Wilmington NC 6 years ago. Im still passionate about Swansea AFC and am now a big Wrexham fan also after watching the series on TV. Hope to see them get promoted this season. Peace brother!
Not even going to credit Liam Roberts for using his clip? Wolly