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P0507 Idle Speed Performance Higher Than Expected (vacuum leak) - Jeep
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- čas přidán 22. 08. 2015
- Idle Speed Problems P0507 caused by a vacuum leak
If you have a Chrysler or Jeep and have this trouble code and/or too high of an idle speed, then this video is for you.
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You know what I like best about your videos? That as you talk yourself through the repair, you don’t try to pretend you know everything(nobody does, right?). You don’t act like every repair is perfect and easy. In this case you found a vacuum leak. Simple. But the correct diagnosis requires a process, whether it is an easy or hard repair. Your videos demonstrate that, as well as the repair.
+joediagnostics thanks Joe!
I had the same leak on my car and fixed it with High temp Pure silicon black RTV. Just filled that whole area, because I couldn't find a replacement O-Ring. Worked like a charm!
Mark Niebauer I had the same fix for a Charger on a Sunday afternoon.
Man I love that water test! Stealing it for sure, thanks for the great video!!
Great video, I never would have thought of using a water bottle to find the leak. I was going to buy a new throttle body, but it ended being a $5 elbow, no more engine light. Thank you!
Mechanics will tell you is the most expensive thing, my engine light turned on today and I hope it's not going to be that expensive.
Nice work. A lot of shops these days are just swaping parts out based off trouble codes. Even the dealerships are doing this. Then they just charge the customer for all the unnecessary parts they installed to "diagnose" the problem.
This happened to me 😭
I absolutely love your videos, Paul. You know how to approach every problem you come across. You remind me of my college teacher when I took Automotive Technology. If you know how a system works, you can fix it. Keep up the good work!
+Andrew Thayer thanks man
I was working on a dodge truck and you just helped me fix it
wow Danner, I am in auto tech in my technical college but I so far you have taught me more about engine performance than anyone else. whenever I have an issue I can't figure it for a while I am always like. "Where is Danner when I need him" haha. you are really good at what you do and I hope to one day have the knowledge that you do. I am investing more money in diagnostic tools so far than hand tools.
+Cesar Perez thanks man. I appreciate you being here
Thank you 🙏🏼 I have this and have replaced so many things myself and can’t for the life of me get this jeep to just run correct. I’ll admit I’ve been the code changer until this video
Just solve a problem with a gearbox that took me 5 and a half hour to figure out. I'm smiling with you :)
+Andrea Gili nice! I bet that felt awesome
I think this is exactly what I just went through. I got this code; my garage had me replace the electric throttle body; a 500$ job total... didn't fix the fault code...
Sounds like you took it to a garage full of "parts changers".
I'm sorry
@@ScannerDannerbroski I’m having this issue rn saw ur video tonight and I will do water test check tom ty! Btw what exactly is the name of that part that was hissing in your video and was it the oring that needed replaced or the entire elbow piece?
I have the solus edge and it have the troubleshooter built in and I use it all the time it is a great asset that snap on has incorporated into their scan tools, and at no additional charge is what makes me it so great! It is especially helpful when you're in the field and can't readily get access to a computer. Great video as always, very informative!
Brandon Sartain the troubleshooter and component test meter are two of the best weapons out there in the aftermarket
Wow...that's the same tube that was leaking and causing a buddie's charger to miss and run rough. It ended up being a rubber grommet that is exclusive to dodge. Unfortunately it was Sunday and he had to drive back to Atlanta from NC. We wrapped it very tight with silicone tape and it got him back home.
Great video man. I didn't even realize they still made MAP only systems, that's is good for me to know as the rest of the video. HAHAHA. Just the other day on a forum I taught to use water for vacuum leaks probably thanks to you bringing it up before. :)
Normally, I give credit, but I forgot who I learned it from.
+DE Nichols haha no problem bro. thanks!
awesome video, I'm working on a 2005 Chrysler Pacifica, with a 3.5l. came across the same code after fixing the 0420 and the moss fire on cylinder 4. came a crossed P0507 after. my listening for vacuum noise. I found a dry crack on the intake manifold. hopefully this helps anyone that experiences this issue
A rough day, but ... love the water test. Nice!
I have changed so many parts because the mechanics suggested it, this is truly awesome, I hope I can find a mechanic that can help me or if I can try to find this leak, I am pretty sure that is the problem with my car too
As you said it it's really awesome fault finder special tool water P0507.
I just got the same smile on my face because of your video. thank you !!!!!!!
sweet!
Awesome video,thanks , Happy Holidays & blessings.
Now that's some high quality H2O.
Lol
+DJDevon3 water sucks it really really sucks
+DJDevon3 LOL. You're comment is way better after watching. :)
+DJDevon3 gatorade
ScannerDanner
You're reminding me of vacuum salesman jokes. haha
+homerlovedonuts Everyday man but not in search vacuum leaks, lol.
As usual in your videos, great approach and diagnostic!! Quick and easy! Paul keep your videos coming!!! Thanks for sharing!!
Maic Salazar thanks bro
I think this is exactly what's happening with me. Do you know anyone in Houston who can help me fix this?
wow i have same scanner at work ,,,kindly use it in ur other videos too.
thanx for giving us this auto wisdom Paul
zia
+Zia Din It is a loner from a friend and goes back to him this month
i bought the whole throttle body also tpp sensor and air control valve. i cleaned the old throttle body and it wasnt all that dirty , still looked like it was in great shape. i replaced the tpp sensor and the air controol valve and still getting the same problem, also check engine light. i also ordered the whole throttle body , i suppose i need to check for a vaccume leak , hopefully thats it ... i can return all the parts i bought. aye thank you for posting this video , i will leave an update ,
for sure, check it for a vacuum leak
@@ScannerDanner whats the name of that part that was leaking air ? just in case i have the same problem. thank you
@@springwellssw I said in the video that I think it was the tube for the EGR system, but I am not sure.
Hey ya and the new tool in the arsenal,Modis Ultra,Danner is the winner.
Water bottle vacuum leak finder face.... priceless!! Lol
Great work as always.One question. What kind of camera are you using in this video?
Paul, You still the Man! Nice!
if it was a vacuum leak, how come it didn't show up on the fuel trims +numbers??
Speed density engine (no MAF).
Psi rise in the manifold is sensed by the MAP sensor. So you got extra air and fuel which is why it idles high as well
ooh ok know I understand,
thank you
and keep up the good work, nice to have a MAESTRO teaching us.
I had this code pop up on my 2011 Nitro 3.7L and my vehicle went into “Limp Mode”. I clear the code and the past couple days it will go into “Limp Mode” but when i plugged my code reader in their were no Current, History, or Pending codes or anything!
I did a smoke test on the i take manifold and found nothing but some smoke came out of the little pin hole on the back of the EGR (idk if that’s normal).
hey paul. love the vid... and the modus ultra...I got mine a few weeks ago and magic quick tool. scope is good too. good all rounder.
Thanks for the vid! love it
cool vacuum leak find bro....
Curious as to what would be more effective at identifying a vacuum leak, the water bottle method vs propane gas and listening for an idle change?
+thez3drivesme all the above, but I like the water test the best
Man I bet this is my issue. I took apart the air box a while back and remember that tube being a bitch.. thanks for the video.
I love the water trick to find a vacuum leak
chris cager Cager! What's up brother?
+ScannerDanner enjoying the tech world
Does the computer control idle on my 2007 Jeep commander with 4.7L V8? I have checked the line going to the pcv and it basically crumbled in my hand. I’m not sure if the line was already bad or if it crumbled when I handled it. It has the hard plastic line and that is where it crumbled.
Yes it does
Good Morning body thank you for this video. It's great. How did fix the problem? What did you replace? Thank you
there was a vacuum leak, I fixed the vacuum leak
Paul, I think your modis is set to night mode. I have found that they come like this from factory. I changed mine to day mode and everything switches to a white background resulting in more brightness
+Yanier Olivera you are correct and I think the black background shows up better on the camera. I'll play around with it, Thanks!
Would vacuum leak have anything to do with my overheating? My jeep commander has overheat temp pop up. The fan kicks on high and low. I've checked my relays replaced my water pump, hoses, thermostat and coolant sensor. Someone on CZcams said it's just corrosion on the wire on the starter does that sound plausible?
Hi paul. Which scanner you think is best for todays complex vehicles.The modis ultra or the Verus Pro.
Mountain Dew bottles work better than the Poland Spring bottles. lol Nice quick find. Did you find out exactly was needed to make the repair?
Thank you for this video Paul. I have a question... Speed density engines doesn't misfire because of vaccum leaks? Because I'm kind of guessing that they do if the leak is a the injectors or intake manifold but then again I don't know if it will misfire or cause a rich condition because of the o2 sensor trying to compensate for the leak. What do you think?
Have an 08 Durango with a 3.7 with a PO507, have checked for vacuum leak, none, removed and cleaned throttle body, replaced pcv valve and hose, car runs fine but code will not go away any ideas?
@scannerdanner I am working on my 2007 jeep grand cherokee 3.7 v6 4wd. My only code is P0507, this light turned on about 3 weeks after i fixed the P0420 so i replaced i cat converter and it was good for 3 weeks. p0420 is gone now i am getting the p0507. do you think it might be a leak around the welding of the cat converter???
I do not, check it for a vacuum leak
Thanks, 2007 Grand Cherokee.
Hi Paul could you have checked for an induction leak using propane or carb clean in a situation like this or do you prefer the water method first up. Guess a smoke machine would be the next move if all else fails.
+David ODea for sure David, I just found this to be way more accurate and safe
That is known as a symptom code and not a system code.
Did fixing this leak solve this problem? I have an '07 Dakota with a P0507 with the same leak. I fixed this leak (and another on the PCV valve hose connection), but I still get the code. FWIW the engine runs great and idles at 690. I did the idle relearn, but I still get the code...
I’m having this code rn p0507 my 07 jgc as well, so what exactly is this part specifically called and does oreily have them?
I dont remember, sorry
@@ScannerDanner ty for the reply bro 🫡 got a tb from Amazon $70 installed it now im getting p0507 so they’re resending me another one maybe it was defective, after this 2nd tb from Amazon if it still gives me p0507 im running to oreily and copping a doorman $250 tb lol
@@lstruggy this was a vacuum leak! It didn't need a throttle body. Hope you kept your original one
@@ScannerDanner I did but I was starting to get the red lightning tb logo flashing n the surging forward while at a red light along w rpm revving from 700-1200 so I had to replace it now I think the amazon tbs are no bueno
I need some advice, So I got the code P0507 and P0106 and every time I try to remove the oil cap, it gets suck by the engine so is become difficult to remove. Any android before buying a new valve cover? 2010 VW jetta 2.5
I KNOW THAT FEELING!!! 10:40 hahaha cool man!
+serchmarc Anyone who diagnoses cars does. :) Had a bizarre vacuum leak. I surely wasn't looking for it. It was causing a rich condition! Nuts, right?
I have a car right now with this code driving me crazy, Nissan Altima 2003 3.5 making the car go crazy at 2500 rpms I did look for vacuum leaks found none but going back at it with the water spray method and I hope i find one cause don’t know what more to do!
A vacuum leak on your car would not idle high. You have a different problem. Need scan data and code information to help
High thanks for the replay just got the car back today so I have a P0507 code when I drive car and keep it under 2500RPMS no problem but when I hit 2500RPMs the car jerks bad idlestarts going up and down between 1500 to 2500 I did try the Idle relearn unfortunately the code is still there, when I remove the code vehicle operates normally till I cycle the key, I do have a P0650 the check engine light won’t work on cluster making it difficult to do the idle relearn procedure any ideas
I am bit lossed Paul. On your scanner I see tps 1 v and tps 2 v and also app 1 v and 2 .does that mean the car has two tps and two apps
Your great follower
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Yes sir. All electronic throttle control systems are like this with redundant sensors for safety
Cool one Danner, Keep the videos coming, Like school at work! only better
+Pit Stop Tire & Auto will do brother, thanks for watching!
Will the older Vantage MT2400 scope give you similar data? Thinking about getting a used one (my first) from a shop that is closing. Would you go for it or pass? Thanks for your advice, it'd very kool! Learning quite of diagnostics from you, love it, instead of being a parts changer. TY again
+paul2072z the MT2400 is the old Vantage. It is not a scan tool at all. It is a component test meter and graphing multimeter (scope like capabilities)
Great tool! Just not a scanner like I used in this video.
Thank you for sharing
Thank you for the great work man
Tanks for your video because m crv honda has the same proble
Javier Ochoa my 08 crv is doing the same thing also po507
I recently got a check engine light and the code that appeared on my scanner tool was P0506 Idle control rpm low
Would finding the vacuum leak also fix the start up rattling on the car?
After this video I’m definitely using your methods to find the vacuum leak.
One question tho is a vacuum pump on a car suppose to make a clicking noise when in operation
not sure, and without knowing what you are working on, I definitely can't answer that
ScannerDanner
I have a 2015 Chevy Malibu w/241k and the only thing I did was scan the car I haven’t changed parts or taken things off.
The car has always been serviced for mechanical issue by my local Chevy dealership.
The last time I had a check engine light the dealership replaced the intake solenoid, the rocker arm solenoid, the oil control valve, and the camshaft cover.
Now the check engine light came on and then went away so I decided to scan it myself and that (P0506) code is what I got.
@@Roberto-gp3yx clean the throttle body!
ScannerDanner
I did clean it but my car still hesitates sometimes now, and also still idles rough when I’m at a stop light
The P0506 code is gone after cleaning the throttle body but the other symptoms still persist on the car
OK, got a question...I have the same car, same fault code, etc...What is the fix for this?! That metal hose is what? Has anybody determined whether its the hose, o-ring or what that part actually is? Thanks
+Van Go Ventures unbolt the tube and check the o-ring first.
I have an 04 maxima that run an drive at a high rpm ,60mph is at 3 rpm what could it be
Anyone know where to get the Snap On mountain dew and water combo?
Trying to do this on a nissan but something goes wrong before check engine flashes
Hi i have a problem with my 05 jeep liberty. It keeps revving while in in highspeed. The trans temp light keeps switching on also. What do i have to do to fix it
You solve this trans temp on at high speed?
I had the same problem months ago (on my Toyota "A/T Temp" triggered at high speed +/- 80kmh). I drained and filled the trans fluid, still it does the same. After 500 km I did another trans fluid change (2nd drain & fill). No more A/T Temp light.
@@metzmatu8409 Well, it had something to do with my shift solenoid. Which was located under my tranmittion valve body.
@@metzmatu8409 i did replace it, except that i lost the little balls for the valve body. So when i installed everything back it was a total flop.
I like the water test....... it's my assurance that I don't turn my car into a fireball,,, cause I'm just gonna say if it can b done..... I just don't want to find out.............saaaaafe...!!!!!
I lost my scanner to a fire and it was a 3160 abs ,what be effect able one
You the goat 🐐
Will you be now using modis instead of the verus?My snap on dealer trying to talk me into a modis. Great job.
JBTaylor86 I still like the Verus better for videos as I can do screen captures with it (because it is PC based)
I've never been too comfortable squirting water all over a running engine. Especially today's cramped engine bays where you can even find engine computers bolted right on top of intake manifolds. My preferred method to find vacuum leaks is the smoke machine. No doubts there. If there is a leak, the smoke will expose it.
What's happens if you use soapy water instead? Will it causes short circuits or its too messy?
BIG Z Well you shouldn't spray it directly on electronics if you can help it. Soapy water is great because it will bubble but everyone can find a soda/water bottle just about anywhere you're at but perhaps not soap. ;)
+BIG Z Soapy water is for positive pressure leaks. This is a vacuum leak, you will never see it bubble on the inside.
+Eric Morrison thanks man
Man alive, I HAVE been away for a while now. you got rid of the Verus!?!?
Nope, still have it. This was my friends modis ultra
Mountain Dew rules!
Good job.
Good find
+wtbm123 thanks friend
I have the same code P0507 on my 2007 jeep grand Cherokee 3.7. How did you fix the vacuum leak? Is there another video?
hey paul i saw that modis ultra have a lab scope is the same as the verus? can test ignition system and control triggers and all that stuff like the verus? thanks for the vid like always !
andres rohena yes, only real difference is it is only 2 channels
thx this was very helpfull
Sweet
Almost every single one of my customers has that misconception. They think a diagnosis is checking the codes with a scan tool.
+abochavez the general public is learning the hard way that this doesn't work. It will just take a long time for everyone to figure that out. But it does suck
This is a lesson I learned $185 later
Another good way to test for a vacuum leak is a coleman bottle of propane and rubber hose attached to the "burner"..just turn the bottle on...LOW....and put the rubber hose around all the areas, Idle changes and there is your vacuum leak.
for sure
I'm surprised it didn't throw a system too lean fault.
scannerdanner maybe u can help me with the signature test on the verus pro dose it test the part or the computer
The signature of a waveform is depended on both the component and the computer driver.
ScannerDanner thank u sir
+chris ard for sure! for an example check this video czcams.com/video/iIO-2LmwkdY/video.html
hey dan what do you thing of launch x431 pro 4.0
My name is Paul Danner 😉
Never used that tool, sorry
what else can it be?
"Put down the parts cannon, and pick up the parts sniper rifle."
-Ivan T
what is the softwareof diagram are u using bro?
It is called ShopKeyPro but there is a diy version too that offers the same service info i use but for individual cars eautorepair.adtrk.biz/?a=10817&c=24&p=r&s1=
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Thank you my friend! Just come over to my website and sign up for SD Premium. It's 36 cents per day and this is the best way to support me, while at the same time giving you access to 515 videos and counting, with half of them being classroom lessons. This material will help you "get rich" :-) I promise. BUT, you have to want it, or it won't make a difference.
@@ScannerDanner I’m in 🫡 thank you for taking the time to respond. I hope you have a prosperous year!
@mujotagani1049 talk over there then too! Thank you
muy bueno
What cause long-term to be at 38.3
A lean condition
Awesome
at 2:32, sounds like a Detroit!
+ScannerDanner Could U Possibly Do A Video On Changing A "Output Shaft Transmission Speed Sensor".... For a 2000 VW Beetle...We Have Look Every Where, Hope U Get A Beetle In Sometime..
Oke, true water is cheaper and easy available ;-) Until now I used break cleaner.
Vacuum leak
Your not scared of water getting into the system???
did you get yourself a modis ultra
phil holbrook It is a friends, just wanted to play around with it for awhile
troubleshooter just made you some coin on this one to look for a vacuum leak. does it have a 4 channel scope to?
Water test is legit
You're my friggen idol !!