Why The NBA Loves To LIE About Their Best Players
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- čas přidán 28. 06. 2024
- Why The NBA Loves To LIE About Their Best Players as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew discuss how character issues are often overblown when it comes to the NBA Draft and explain how NBA Teams lie about their players to create narratives, like the Minnesota Timberwolves did to Jimmy Butler.
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Pat mcaffe interviewed a GM from the MLB, and the gm admitted that teams lie about players attitudes so that they can trade and release players without fans questioning their decisions.
Players should step up, or don't they have a union or something player association
@@TheTaekwon3 i guess they don't really have tangible proof. People in the offices aren't going to snitch on their bosses and coworkers. It's like what happened with Mac Jones, he called his college coaches to vent, and they went behind his back and told the Patriots staff about their conversations. The players are fighting an up hill battle and they don't really have allies in the situation.
Gil turned down the mandatory treadmill test because he was in too good of a shape 🤣
And to protect his white chucks 👟
Mccants got the same attitude problem now 😂
Totally the guy is an arrogant pita who could never back it up
Literally
It’s never his fault
Exactly. If so many people say you have an attitude problem, maybe it's just true. Same with Gil doing stupid s**t and then getting mad when facing consequences for the stupid stuff..
No accountability.
Nick Young blackballed for hanging with Kwame Brown 😂😂😂😂
Nick Young is just dumb 😂😂😂😂😂
Crazy work 😂😂
@@odagawd8601no he not where you get that from if that’s the case the worriors wouldn’t have picked him up
did no one catch Nick saying "Antman got three kids this summer" ...
BJ trying his best not to laugh @19:58
Yes, and it is absolutely crazy!
Yup!! 😂😂😂. A fool and his money are soon parted..
McCants act like his reputation came out of nowhere…
Wait so wh
@@tajeecarter3782what
Right 😒
Exactly first he blames the coach for his low draft stock then his teammates come out after the lies where told
Felton said it all
He wasn’t a bad teammate in Chicago he didn’t stay cuz the front office didn’t believe he was good enough to lead a franchise
Actually he was terrible in his last year in Chicago as a teammate. The team was awful, the head coaching sucked, and they had no direction. Jimmy is the last person in the NBA you want in that scenario cause he’ll make it worse by making it abundantly clear every single day. Him and Fred Hoiberg apparently didn’t speak to each other after like the first 2 months of the season. So yes, Chicago didn’t believe in him but he was also a terrible teammate and hated the coaching staff
Dwade told him to get to miami
@@j_the_don5160never heard a single bulls player say that 😂
They had labeled him in Chicago, that is how him Wade, well according to Wade and Jimmy.
@@timelessteek561 Michael-Carter Williams literally just did a podcast about it. He didn’t explicitly say he was a bad teammate cause it’s Jimmy’s contract year and that’ll fuck up the money but he didn’t say anything positive about Jimmy being in the locker room. Mainly that the whole thing was a cluster fuck and Jimmy is the last person you want in that situation. He’ll complain and be brutally honest about the situation in the moment which doesn’t create good chemistry. It makes morale plummet. Jeff Teague has repeatedly said the same thing. He would do toxic shit in Minnesota cause KAT and Wiggins didn’t have the mentality to win
Gil was saying money can fix a stealing problem shannon said it best money doesn't change you it just enhances more of who you are
You dudes be dense or dumb. I can't put my finger on it. Please tell us what crimes Jameis Winston has committed as a pro? How about Tunsel? How'd his career pan out ?
@@Vorzilla josh Bellamy Micheal Bennett Maurice clarrett Cecil Collins the list goes on of players who commit theft or robbery so did becoming millionaires solve their problems no they still committed crimes dummy character doesn't change with money you idiot go do some research and find you something to do
@@Vorzilla and you brought up tunsil without even looking into his background man I don't why I respond to you clowns Google is free and you choose to be stupid
He talking about petty theft like the example he used about still crab legs who ain't going to steal crab legs if you have money
Everyone Rashad played for didn’t like his attitude and he’s always like I have no idea why 😂😂😂😂😂
Rashad is hilarious.....nobody was talking about you mannnn 😆 🤣 😂
Just like no one talking about you
@odagawd8601 he did that this convo so personal like Gil had the real answers lol
@@usmcmikeco0651 because he nobody but Rashad nba player who got milion dollar contract
There were rumblings around the league about McCants having a bad attitude snd not caring about ball because he was one of the original ball players loving on a Kardashian
Rashad has to justify his failures.
Nah it’s about character jaMarcus Russell just got popped for stealing $70k while being a high school football coach they gave him millions but his character was flawed
Also just dumb 😂😂😂😂
Are you talking about the universally recognized worst pick/contract in NFL history??….Great take
@@brifer95 still goes with character brother money doesn’t fix the problem it enhances it red flags are red flags for a reason
Well clearly he’s broke now
@@odagawd8601nah fr I just read the article bozo said he deposited but admitted no wrongdoing he went to a local buisnessman asked for a donation for the schools equipment the man wrote a $74k check the credit union gave Russell 55k on the spot and once he didn’t send receipts and stopped responding the man stopped the rest of the money and he figured out the school never saw a penny dummy counter suing cuz the business man stopped the rest of the check from going through😂
That " he got three kids" whisper is amazing lol
After 12 years of service, I’ve seen Soldiers like McCant to often. No accountability for his own actions, let him tell it, everyone else is the reason he played 5 years.
Felton had first hand knowledge of the situation and he called him out. No excuses. It was his doing
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I just re-enlisted and I agree
And being in the service you should know it works the other way too.
It’s cool watching y’all reminiscing or debating instead of arguing y’all covered a lot of ground here
A man’s character matters. Accountability matters. The potential negative implications are too great to minimize.
love that my guy Swaggy P on the couch more regular now
He was much better in the war room.
These guys are brain dead. If you’re giving millions to someone on a guaranteed deal, you’re gonna wanna know everything you can about the person
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Really doesn’t matter either, I’m the instance of a highly talented player.
Cap tbh lot of fucked up people making millions even while having cases
@@Stevenlampkin02234Fr.
This convo was personal for Rashad.
That’s every convo for him 🤦🏽
It's always personal for Rashad
*If Gil was a GM he would have a roster full of phenom crackheads.*
Gil will never have the chance to be a coach or GM. He has too much luggage. Too many years of saying stupid shite
Yall can't help but make racist comments.
@denk664 you dudes can barely type an articulate sentence. Always your emotions
@@Vorzilla can barely type an articulate sentence. Always your emotions. Yeah, you can definitely articulate better, smdh.
@@denk664 I'm guessing you don't know what articulate means 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
If you're an athlete at 19, you cannot act like ALL 19 year olds. That's absurd.
Almost all modern professional athletes (track and field, basketball, soccer, tennis) already have a development plan at 15/16. If you're doing all that extra shiit at 19, you have no future in professional sports.
Money only makes you more of who you are the little things matter
And these guys speaking is exactly the reason why teams do things the way they do. Arenas exercising his 2A fronting a now felon in the locker room. Nick weed Young and his foolishness on all of his career, and McCants "never wrong" on anything attitude definitely helped him staying the league.
How long did you play in the league? You peons love speaking on things you’ve never accomplished.
Yep, if I were a gm I probably wouldn’t want any of these guys on my team
You can tell by the mentalities on the show while they didn't achieve more
@@corpyhogan4433lmfao and what have you three achieved in comparison?
@@jamarcogale6735 I hate when y'all say this bullshit lmao it doesn't negate the fact their shitty attitudes cost them better careers
rashad funny af bro😭😂 “they use shit like that”
McCants thinking when 100 ppl say the same thing word for word about him they all gotta be liars and plotting against him 😂😂😂😂
It's the same way in the workplace. All the lazies & kiss asses all team up with the supervisors to gang up on the Chosen One. Every chance they get, they try to make it look like you're the problem. Leave, & don't look back. After a week, they all end up turning on each other & everything burns down anyways. Meanwhile, you're still Great without the headache. 9-5s are not for Chosen 1s.
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LOL the chosen one.
Yeah I worked at Target and this is how they operated I sold most items 3 months in a row and was always on time and didn't call out never got employee of month or gift cards always went to Manager best friends who they drank with after work
Very well said. They’ll just stay in the lil bubble until it bursts.
Don’t be black and want to be a supervisor. You can have the worst white supervisor, and they’ll still look at you differently for trying to get a better position to change the culture. Crabs in a bucket
I don’t get it Gil… just do the treadmill test. Why create potential problems for yourself down the line. Our people don’t seem to understand that these rules don’t make sense because they are put in place to hang you up. They are just looking for a reason to pay you less, not hire you, etc. don’t give them that excuse… especially if you’re already in shape.
McCants sounds like Monique and Amanda Seales on Club Shay Shay. “They were all against me!” 😭😂😂😂
These cats are killing me. They don’t live in real life. All of this is about judging character. When you are putting GUARANTEED millions into someone you want to know everything. If you give a kid millions with no structure and they got in trouble without millions and structure, what do you think is likely to happen???Coaches have to tell the truth about players otherwise they screw up their credibility and their ability to vouch for any future player. I’m not saying you need to trash a player but you have to tell the truth.
Lol 😂.. In what fake world do you live in? The lust & greed for money is #1 in this Capitalist society. It overrules EVERYTHING. They’re a little careful now because of the public and the cancel culture movement. But known criminals are deeply embedded in every major corporation in America, and guess what … the corporations don’t give a damn as long as money is being made.
So in a corrupt country from the top to the bottom, the filthiest most demonic country in the world….. you think, in general, character is priority to billionaires? I need your answer to be logical. Because the wealth created in this country is supported by evil. So at what point did they start caring about being good?
This podcast is filled with people that were bad teammates and had shitty attitudes Lol and it's a reason why their resumes are as thin as it is
Cap
Shut your company man ahh up 🤡
Salute to Gil I see the maturity when he hear kwame name 🤣🤣🤣💯 I’m here FROM MAMAS COOKING SALUTE GIL🔥🔥🔥
Kevin Porter Jr.’s has narrative seems to be holding up in multiple situations lol 😅
05:27, naw Gil, the companies do the same things for regular jobs/careers. They will check your social's, call old jobs you worked for, old organizations you were a part of, reach out to your family/friends if you used them as a reference, and etc... When they want to know, they will definitely put in the work.
Peace Gil n Rashad is must see!!!! Gil you have perfect views of the game inside and out, Now I ask how do we get magic, Luka, confused as guards and not put as forwards w/ guard skill set. Also I never watch any player guard 1-4 so why that narrative exists and also it's only to position that have changed pg is not longer traditional and pf doesn't exist it's now 2 wings 2 guards and centers
Character matters no matter what your profession. All of the greats in every sport don't have those types of stories about them
I appreciate Gil perspective. Very smart dude 👌🏾
Nick was being messy at the end trying to whisper to BJ about Ant😭😭😭😭💀💀
Did he say Ant has 3 kids?
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It was a test to see if Gil can listen; And he can't!! 🤣 Attitude mee boy !!
Good Conversation, Gentlemen! Lots of good points. This is why more Players need to be in front offices.
Being labeled as a bad anything doesn’t just apply to sports I’ve had that label and Gil explained it really well. I questioned stuff too much that in my position I “shouldn’t” have…
I didn’t play organized basketball growing up, football was my sport and in American football culture, when a player(like myself) gets labeled with the title of “un-coachable” it really just makes that the athlete isn’t easily manipulated and isn’t afraid to say “No”…
Ik it looks like Rashad is making excuses for his issues in the league but he does have a point. There’s a lot of personal moves made by coaches behind the scenes cuz they know they know they’ll get away with it. Especially college coaches.
“I got benched for being around kwame brown” sounded like real pain 🤣🤣
😂😂 That’s Crazy
It's Because The NBA is Not Like It Used To Be Back in The Day When We All Growing Up As Kids
Don’t let Gil be a gm he gonna hire thieves. Bad character doesn’t go away with more money.
Nah that’s facts tho dejounte Murray said the same thing they went back I think to hs and ask his old janitor about him
They can see if you’re a bad teammate during games. Not just behind the scenes.
Nick to BJ at the End “Ant Man got 3 kids, This Summer 😂😂😂
Your spittin facts about the bad attitude label and coaches or GMs NOT asking the tough questions. Plus some coaches and GMs have been known to embellish some of the facts because they all look at it like who cares why because theres plenty of more trees bearing fruit for the NBA especially with foreign players also now being in those pastures.
Why would “bad teammate” come from a player? NBA GMs dont interview teammates to see if they gone draft you. Rashad just wants to blame Roy for his failed career
It didn’t fail him that much being he’s on a top podcast🤷🏾♂️ probably has more money than you and he played a half of season🤦🏾♂️
@@marcusburden92 L glaze
Maybe if multiple teammates are coming out it could come up in pre draft talks, also talking with hs/college coaches
@@marcusburden92it failed bro, when compared to the regular dude…. sure he’s up. But he not comparing himself to us he comparing himself to his basketball peers. That being said Rashad didn’t accomplish what he wanted in his NBA career making his career a failure.
@@marcusburden92 mccants has accountability issues
If you're in shape ahead of time, chances are you'll be in shape when you come for training camp and the season.
Gil point is nuance, sound & focused He just saying teams like to stream line everything. Once player gets label with “character flaw”. Some teams won’t go beyond the scarlet letter & just write the prospect off.
The only people who would know a player is a bad teammate are the players who play with them.
Character does matter. A perfect example is the late Aaron Hernandez. He was a murderer and a sociopath. But the NFL overlooked that and focused on his talent until his bad character came to light.
Nothing to do with his attitude. He was a sociopathic maniac but his teammates said he was a good dude with a good attitude lol
Butts in the seats…..$$$
yea but he was productive on the field
You making this statement like everybody knew he was gonna kill somebody and they let him play....quit talking out yo ass...y'all don't have a problem when Americans soldiers rape and murder all over the world....have a nice day
Make sure your job in your personal life too
Watching a old school Lakers versus Wizards. Gil Butler Haywood Jamison Daniels Stevenson-
Kobe Pau Smush Kwame Walton Bynum Farmar
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Really digging your videos, keep it real!
shut up bot
“You won’t last 30sec playing this game”
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Faithful over little ruler over much. Not faithful over little, the much will destroy you.
Bible
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It went from he didn’t want to mess his chucks up now it’s no one could be #1 😂😂 Gil be 🧢’n
Purple jeans w da addias track jacket is crazy work gil 😂
Diabolical
Purple?
@@memcrew1it’s the brand brodie
Purple is a brand
I’m gonna be honest ….. Gil is too rich to give af
This group of dudes being confused by accountability is so on brand 😂😂
The treadmill test isn't exactly done to check your physical shape. It's to see how you function internally. It's for your circulation and that sort of thing. You can always "push yourself to the limit" because your body can take it, but you don't know how your heart is handling it. There are people in tip top shape who later find out that they have problems with their heart after doing the stress test. Be it a partial block or something else, that's the test they conduct to determine that. They do it for jobs that take a toll on you physically.
Yo Salute! The homie brought the crown back out😂
5:08 they can ask around all they want. They’re not gonna get the truth because people want to sabotage these guys trying to make it to the next level.
Gilbert is coming at this with an unprofessional mindset. Skill is king; character flaws should be vetted properly. Lots of money and jobs on the line. They would rather you become a bust before being without you/getting rid of you due to an off court issue.
What GIL is talking about is true 1000%
I played pro and I've been there. A lot of those guys have this ego and pride that has nothing to do with actual game skill. They don't know how to evaluate talent or skill. They go by what others say. And many times they owe each other favors and they will call another evaluator and say he did this for me or This guy is this or that. A lot of it is relationship or favor base behind-the-scenes stuff we don't know about.
Mccants got PTSD
Gil not understand that you can get a first place in that time limit lol
The same level of immaturity at the combine showed up in the locker room in Washington
Look at McCants mad cause mfs didn’t lie about his character 😂😂
This conversation right here shows you why there are OWNERS, and there are PLAYERS, just the same as EMPLOYERS and EMPLOYEES..These players are really showing their lack of intelligence and very limited mindset. It’s a big check for sure, but someone is endorsing that check at the end of the day.
You aren’t as smart as you think you are.. you people think you can measure intelligence with simpleton analogies 😂..
LOL, look at your presidents. Your comment shows you only agree with the mindset of racist America. The MAJORITY decides what is right and what is wrong. Name another multi-billion dollar industry where the employees get fined millions for saying something bad about a consultant (referee), or an entire paycheck for a touching someone (foul in a game). There is nothing fair about the treatment of the employees (players) of the NBA vs the return the owners receive from the production of the players.
And they only endorsing because of the skill you have
lol saying people lack intelligence because you have a different opinion shows a lack of intelligence. These “players” are also OWNERS and EMPLOYERS outside of their basketball careers. There isn’t any single mindset or mentality for an Owner/Employer.
I couldn't have said it any better, yoyo
You couldve just done the treadmill test 😂 Bro really dont think anything wrong
Swaggy P Pulled A DLo ?🤔 Speaking On AntMan Personal Life 😂😂😂 like we didn’t catch that …. That Boy Messey 🤦🏿♂️
FELTON said enuff bout Shad. I'll take his word
Stealing shrimp is wild 😂☠️
Honestly if I was an owner theirs red flags I can live with and maybe even help get removed, but I need as much information as possible before I invest multiple years and millions into a person.
For some reason I very seldom believe none of what Mccants says about himself 😂😂
I hope young prospects don’t listen to anything these guys were saying in this segment
That’s all I was thinking. This shit is terribly childish & just isn’t how the world works. Of course character matters, these dudes too old to not understand that.
Did Swaggy P just say Ant Man got 3 kids this summer?!
I love the content you guys put up but this one I can’t agree with you on. Just like any job they have requirements and test. Just do the test. I don’t know why they think they can just write their own rules.
There is a risk giving 18,19,20 year olds millions of dollars with little supervision and structure. So why is it an issue if the owners sees potential issues and says nah. Money makes u more of who you are. It's funny because they dont want to be judged on passt behavior, but when they are ready for a contract, they want more money based on past performance. U can't have it both ways🤷🏾♂️
you also realize that jj had to do the detox and get his self into shape and stop after his sophomore year. remember jj stayed four years, if he came out sophomore year it would’ve been a little different.
NBA been cappin
Aye Josiah pause @ 15:47 😂😂😂
All the coaches can’t be wrong about McCan’t
Leadership accountability are different to bad attitude
Johnny Menziel just wanted to have fun and play football.
Also that’s just not for basketball that’s for any career you trying to get and work hard for
😂😂 I never understood why people love stealing crab legs idk yo poor are rich it’s just funny to me 😂
Gilbert Arenas would make a great assistant coach not head but somebody to manage players personalities
It's not always about character anytime you dealing with the corporate world if you don't fall in line like a robot weather makes sense or not they will Mark you as a bad character as well just because people is in charge don't mean to have a right mind or heart you have to judge things definitely then that way
Shad went to UNC and went out of his way to stand alone from his teammates and coaches but wants to talk about JJ having a tough sophomore season looooooool
Attitudes do not get corrected as an adult
Maybe teams don’t want to build a team around a guy who brings guns into the locker room
Its about character not about the money or crab legs. Accountability people got damn ?!?!?!?!
He’s not using his brain to over stand the treadmill question wasn’t about him really being in shape it was to see how he deals with criticism.
To be fair the nba has already experienced Reggie Harding. The 1st player drafted to not play in college. He commited armed robbery while playing in the nba, and rapped multiple women. Not to mention he also pulled guns on teammates like gil lol. Plus threatened to kill his gm during a tv interview. So the nba has taken character more serious over the years. Millions or billions are at risk.
So, no accountability ... GOT IT!
i never saw them agree like this before.../EPIC
Your brain wasn't right!! Slipped that one in on Gil.
Ya brain wasn't right🤣🤣
The players won’t say anything because they don’t want to be a snitch. It doesn’t mean players like you or they don’t tell the coach shit you do. It’s just not that simple. And it’s not always legit labels. It’s complex. Keep your head low and be nice to folks. Don’t let people get you out of character. Safest way to the bag.
Its ironic that everybody on this podcast had the “immature” label as players
I am sure that if you're about to pay a guy 50 million dollars, you wanna know even everything about him. These are massive investments.