Bulgaria's Versailles - The Treaty of Neuilly 1919
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- The Treaty of Neuilly is one of the lesser known Peace Treaties after the First World War. It codified the peace between Bulgaria, one of the Central Powers, and its neighbors who all had territorial claims.
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The Great War did Bulgaria actually claim Morocco and Egypt?
@@reeseman1932 No. Some paper pusher in Allied office made template agreement for all treaties and used it everywhere . Sounds like problem we still have today.
Can you talk about submarine warfare in the great War
Please discuss submarine action and Design in the great War
No, i dont want to play *raid shadow legends*
Bulgaria has 1 submarine*
Britain: he is too dangerous to be kept alive
Hello there
@@MrGreghome general Kenobi!
@@yakob4137 "... you are a bold one"
"Bulgaria renounce all claims to the ... British Protectorate in Egypt". Are the Allies sane enough to make a treaty? Seriously?
Bulgarian navy : has one submarine
Allies : there was a chance Bulgaria can annex Egypt and Marroco
That's what happens when you copy+paste Versailles for your treaty with Bulgaria.
Jevin Liu And you thought that copy/paste was invented with computers... ;)
@@Gh0stClown The funnier thing is that Versailles did not prevent Germany from claiming them, whereas Neuilly prevented the Bulgarians from claiming said lands.
Also allies: NO SUBMARINES!!! Well, for Austria, that is. Well, and Bulgaria too. Oh yeah, we forgot about Hungary.
@@jevinliu4658 Banning submarines for landlocked Hungary wouldn't have been out of place, considering the general level of insanity of these treaties.
“Bulgaria must renounce its claims to French Morocco and British Egypt”
B-but meh dreams of a Bulgarian Kaĭro and Rabat...
Michael Zheng who doesn’t remember that famous painting of the Bulgarian king on horseback, looking at the Sphinx 😁
@Zhor'i Ambassador old bad prepared treaties be like: No Bulgaria ya can't have Antarctica
@Claudio Canavaro Next stop - China!! I don't even care! We obviously started to invade Africa, so whats the problem? Lol
There is always Victoria 2 for that.
That sounds like such a kaiserredux thing that I don't be surprised if they do that.
"Ivan Vazov, brother of the famous general Vladimir Vazov"
They are usually referenced the other way around...
Hahaha, but yeah. I recently found ehat happened actually to Vladimir and the Vazov family and was stunned and disgusted to my core
I employed Bulgarians in my business, all woman. Useless, desinterested, uncaring, demotivated, I like it though when Bulgaria beat Germany at the World Cup, hehe
@@eliza9799 Was he the one who when Ivan died he wanted to give his house to his brother, but the government stepped in as seized the house as a cultural monument?
@@trojan-not It was never said but rather speculated to whom Ivan wanted to give all his possessions cause after all they were at least 5 brothers in the family
As a 25 year old Bulgarian I just found out from this video that Ivan Vazov had a famous brother military general
As a Bulgarian I can say that your pronunciation of the Bulgarian names are pretty much on point.
I did my best!
@@gludiousmaximus7918 Surely, many Bulgarians claim the same about Serbia :D
@@user-kd4pg8hu7t you wanted it all and gave nothing back to us, even though we helped you liberate yourselves from the Ottomans. Thats why we had to fight you.
you wanted all of macedonia for yourselves, even though many serbs died to liberate bulgaria...
@@gludiousmaximus7918 So how many Serbs lived in Macedonia before 1912? Not more than 500 IIRC?
It could be argued they died for the Independence of Serbia.
That Bulgarian Submarine Captain was like "Ima keep it real with u Britain, I don't want to play Raid: Shadow Legends."
Marshall Gaunt my sides are in orbit lmao
Anyone know if the Bulgarian submarine was built in Bulgaria or bought from Germany or Austria?
Maybe it was built by the ottomans to try and get Bulgaria to forget the Balkan wars
@@LuckystrikeNQ SM UB-8
My nation and my family, specially on my mother's side (Their lineage is traced back to the byzantines), has always been enemies with the Bulgarians. But my grandfather used to say that the key word is not the "enemies" but the "always". They have always been there and always kept fighting. This is rare. I have nothing but respect for the Bulgarians and their percistance. They were truely worthy enemies and gave much glory to my ancestors. Though nowdays i am pretty sure they are our best friends out of our neighbours and most of the animosities have long died out.
P.S. The story about the Bulgarian captain sinking his submarine and himself, actually made me cry.
Thank you for the kind words.
Sad to see politicians that do not care for their countries.
Still nice to have a consistant enemy.
Be well and respects.
Great words thank you, even now many people in Bulgaria are desperate as they think that no one will let them be themselves and expect only hate from Europe like is a nation that is miserable to it's core. The politicians only steal money and glorify themselves as great people. Only thing that still gives hope is long past history.
Once an American reviewing the Bulgarian history summed it up that the Bulgarian identity was formed by the struggle against the Greco-Romans for independence and resistance against hellenization of the people/tribes inhabiting Moesia, Thrace and Macedonia, which is what drove Thracians, Slavs, Bulgars, Goths, Wallachians, Cumans an as many as over 30 ethnicities throughout the ages to intermingle and form the Bulgarian ethnicity.
Yet current DNA studies show that the Bulgarians are most closely to Romanians, Northern Greeks...
Cheers mate! As a Bulgarian I think one thing we can agree on is that is we've come a long way in bilateral relations with our neighbours. I've always admired Greece's firm position on international issues and Greeks' willingness to voice their opinion when they need to through massive strikes and protests. It's something we can learn from around here. Hopefully we can prosper as two friendly nations together.
Thank you bro! In fact we are now allies...
As a Bulgarian I have to compliment your pronunciation of the Bulgarian names and places :)
My family on my mother’s side were refugees from Macedonia after the war, they managed to settle and make a living in Sofia.
greece or FYROM ?
You are not Bulgarian or Tatar..You are Macedonian.
@@I.M.Mitrovskibullshit
моите предци също са избягали в софия след войната
@@I.M.Mitrovski He said that he is Bulgarian, who are you to identify him as a Macedonian? Also there weren't any Macedonian after WW1, they were invented after 1944 from Tito.
*Bulgaria:* People in Vardar Macedonia are Bulgarian just take a look there and they will tell it themselves!
*The USA:* Already did it, and yes the majority of the population is Bulgarian.
*Yugoslavia:* They have some songs that sound Serbian.
*The UK:* I think Yugoslavia won this argument.
Whatever their identity at that time, it has surely changed and today the country is quite a different place
@@hristoaleksovski9414 Yep, now it is mostly Albanian.
@@hristoaleksovski9414 Tomorrow will be different from today.
I hope you know it's not just a few songs but far more, right?
@@Serbian_footy Much more than few songs!
Bulgaria's post-armistice story and development of their situation is hauntingly close to that of Hungary's.
KaiserKyre really similar though the case of Hungary was even worse. Both countries border with itself
Well it was unarguably worse for Hungarians, but this peace treaty for Bulgaria is just as big of a national tragedy as it was for Hungarians.
KaiserKyre Absolutely, I am Bulgarian and know that this was a disaster. We beat out neighbours on the battlefield but their masters won the war for them and annexed Macedoni, south Dobrudja, kavala, Tsaribrod and other lands in todays Serbia that were with purely Bulgarian population. My grandads family had to fled from Tsaribrod to Sofia to avoid the famous Serbian attrocities.
Feels bad man. I am from Hungary, and the more I research Balkan history the more I realize how similar Hungary and Bulgaria are. It is actually surprising how similar the two countries' histories are
KaiserKyre yes, i have some Hungarian friends and history is a bonding topic
Bulgaria having to give up morocco and egypt was the real catastrophe
Hear from 10:53... and you will corect your mistake.
We never had morroco and egypt
@@zkilerex9661 ...not with that atitude
@@AndreiTache im bulgarian and i know my country so stfu
Those two protectorates shall return under Bulgarian rule at some point!
It is so refreshing to hear a foreigner pronounce Bulgarian names without mangling them horribly. A job well done!
I noticed how many commentators are surprised by the Bulgarian opening bid in the negotiations. I.e a defeated power asking for territory in the peace treaty. This is actually standard diplomatic practice in the 1850-1920 period, even today. You always open negotiations with a maximalist bid , since that maximizes your ability to "sacrifice" claims in order to build a image of accommodation. You make big claims in the hope that you can sacrifice them in order to keep what you really want. The Ottomans also opened their negotiations with maximalist calims (including Bulgarian territory). The question is if the claims you make are so spurious that everybody knows they are empty talk.
i.e there is a fine line behind sacrificing something that pains you for keeping what you really want, and sacrificing empty dreams for keeping something you really want. But again, the Bulgarian state negotiations tactic is standard practice.
Thanks for that bit of context, Konstantinos.
You are very accurate, great explanation, I have to grant you that.
@@vasil.kamdzhalov Thank you, I appreciate that.
@sciphynuts Pupin was a physicist - physician is a medical doctor. And also had Jovan Cvijić, a brilliant geographer and ethnographer.
@Иван Николов Георгиев ok. Happy New Year
Some of these soldiers were the same soldiers that fought against the Ottomans, just later to fight Greeks, Romanians, Serbians, more Turkish people and even British. And they weren't very well equipped neither. Maximum respect.
Pretty much.
And French, Italian, Africans from the French colonies, Chines from the British colonies and Rashans.
Respect for what? Constant back-stabbings to bordering nations and Greater Bulgaria nationalistic hopes? Please.
@@SugarBlood15 Back - stabbing? Please? Bulgaria was destroyed right after it got freedom from the ottomans(1878). Of course it would try as hard as possible to get it's lands back. It was divided and most of the pieces were given as "presents" to it's neighbours.
@@ivanbalabanski2942 What do you mean its lands? They wanted land they held less than Serbians or Greeks . By what right did they want these lands?
This is the first time I hear Ivan Vasov being introduced as the brother of general Vladimir Vasov. Usually is the other way around. Vladimir is introduced as brother of Ivan who is more famous than him in Bulgaria. I personally am fan of their older brother general Georgi Vasov who conquered Adrianopole in the first balkan war.
Great episode as always, but such a great episode can't go along without one epic "Долу Ньой!".
In 1936 the British legion celebrated the British victory in World War I. The British veterans invited General Vladimir Vazov. He was personally greeted by Lord Milne, who shook his hand with the words "It is a pleasure to meet the Bulgarian delegation, as even though we were enemies, you - like us - fought not only like brave men, but also like gentlemen." After this words Lord Milne give the command: "Take down the flags! General Vazov passes - the winner from Doiran!".
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You are one of the few history channels that do not almost completely disregard the importance of Bulgaria in both World Wars. Although the history of war crimes in Yugoslavia is highly contradictory (depending on the various sources), in general, you did a good job!
How could we? The events of September 1918, in particular, are important to understanding the end of the war...
I guess civilians never had too much luck with invading armies, but it would be worth investigating if ww1 was especially brutal to conquered population or it is actually media warfare, to accuse the other side, of being inhumane. Interesting is, that it took a lot of time for military theorists or whoever to figure out that some soldiers werent actually shooting to kill. Since then they look for people who would not blink while killing you. Of course drugs like alcohol always did the trick i guess. Or something more powerful...
@@DelijeSerbia Serbs are taught that Bulgarians were monsters, Bulgarians are taught that Serbs massacred Bulgarians in Macedonia in order to "purify" the territory and to render Bulgarian claims irrelevant. Everyone's country propagates it's own interests and there are arguments and counter-arguments to support both sides. However, the truth is always somewhere in between all these narratives.
@@slaveykodimitrovstaripavlo7408 Except the one in Macedonia is supported by government documents, letters from your own chetniks, Serbian public outlets, etc, and the other one is several unrelated incidents and a lot of folk myths.
@@btrakiyski4697 The Bulgarian position is also supported by documents, photos, witness and historical reports, the hundreds of thousands of Bulgarians who fled the terror, and all this and much more encouraged the VMRO to resist the Serbian government. The fact that you are not familiar with the other side's arguments and evidences does not mean that they are fabricated.
You did an excellent job in this video. There were a few minor mistakes like Todor Alexandrov being a general, while he did serve in the Bulgarian army he is famous for being the leader of VMRO (or IMRO in English) the Internal Macedonian Revolutionary Organization but explaining the organization could have taken an entire video itself.
Anyway, I was amazed at how detailed and well researched the video was, keep up the great work!
Do you know of any videos describing the situation as it was seen from Vardar Macedonia in those times?
@@icarusswings what do you mean by as seen Vardar Macedonia. I don't think you would find many videos about the situation in English.
@@narutomgm How did the local elite saw it, the local press, census numbers, self determination narratives etc etc? The population inhabiting the land was in favor of uniting with Bg or not? Did they want an union or rather autonomy?
Ps: from what I know, some of the aromanian (vlach) population favoured local autonomy? Am I right?
"If someone says I'm not Macedonian, I will cut his tongue, if someone says I'm Bulgarian, I will cut his head" - Todor Aleksandrov
@@icarusswings I shall recommend you the channel of Samuel's Fortress and Bobby's Perspective's video "Am I really Macedonian?".
"Our country borders itself" this phrase still occurs in Hungary today. The "treaty-shock" in the defeated (and very naive) countries made a much deeper trauma, that anybody could imagine at that time. I think not just the warfare of the Great War was completely new and terrible for the people but also the peace after it.
Jessie as you pronounced the name of Miklós Horty was almost perfect! :) Great job guys, keep going!
Köszi!
Wow, It's is a very new perspective for me!
@Plamen Stoev Wow, It's is a very new perspective for me!
@@jessealexander2695 and this was perfect! :)
@Plamen Stoev Our ancestors are common as well :)
The sad story of the only WW1 Bulgarian submarine and its captain...
Well, as a Bulgarian and a man who likes history I've never heard for that so I don't believe its true.
@@petkovmarin Lmao okay.
@@petkovmarin не знам дали си гледал, но в канала на Българска история имаше епизод за битка от ПСВ или за Ньойският "мир", но и там бяха споменали за този момент ала никъде в уикипедия не съм видял да пише за този случай, но съм склонен да повярвам заради куража и патриотизма на българските войници от това време.
@@petkovmarin Вярваш или не, случката е истина
@@mart4144 Can confirm years later, Bulgaria's only submarine (UB-8) was surrendered. I can find no record of its "suicide".
I'm sorry that you guys need money so much that you are forced to take a sponsorship from an MMORPG app. Wish I had money to spare, but I'm barely getting by as it is.
its not an mmo
@@MightOfChrist It's still mobage, and I wish people wouldn't take mobage sponsorships. I am seriously considering cancelling my Patreon.
@@joluoto well its up to u mate
@@MightOfChrist I didn't stick around to find out what genre it was my guy. I always skip past the ads in sponsored YT videos
@@MightOfChrist s
My great-grandfather Vasil Dimitrov who was given a Cross for Bravery during the combats in Dobrudja in 1916, died in the battles in what is now called Northern Macedonia, at Elevation 1050, near Bitola, defending the local Bulgarian population with his brothers in arms from the 8th Marine Regiment of Varna on the last day before it all ended there. September 28, 1918. Strangely, his granddaughter, my mother, was born on the same day 22 years later...
His name is still standing on the memorial gates of the 8th Regiment in Varna, Bulgaria, with other almost 700 names of soldiers and officers from the regiment who sacrificed themselves during the Balkan Wars and the Great War.
His grave, however, is unknown due to the policy of the Yugoslavian government after the war to clean up all traces of any Bulgarian presence in Macedonia including destruction of graveyards and memorials.
Never forget Neuilly! Glory to Bulgaria!
Some day Justice will prevail! 🇧🇬
P.S. for the record: the Bitola Inscription from the XI century says Ivan Vladislav, King of Bulgaria, nephew of Samuil, King of Bulgaria, built the fortress of Bitola for the Bulgarians.
This little note is to all who will try to ask ridiculous questions about the presence of Bulgarians in what is (for now) known as Northern Macedonia and their attempts to unite the lost Bulgarian lands with predominant Bulgarian population.
Makedonija za Makedoncite 🇲🇰!❤️💛
Respect for Bulgaria! from Romania!
@Kafa kafica Nice map you got there on your profile pic, sadly it's not accurate....
@@random_dudeonyt697 well atleast better and interesting more, than your hentai $hit. Lame a$$
@@nekjevecnasrbijaisrbskirod xddd you are funny
@@random_dudeonyt697 well truth sometimes sounds funny, sometimes roothless 🤣
@@nekjevecnasrbijaisrbskirod The truth that sounds funny is that you have written rOOthless
Your ability to present these historic events in an unbiased way is admirable.
Watching Jessie play modern mobile games is pretty cursed
edit: I was just laughing at the fact that someone that is the face of early 20th century history was playing a mobile game
If the games had a World War 1 thematic, would it be less cursed?
@@TheCimbrianBull Would at least be more topical.
Just let them have their sponsors man
Ok ya it's cursed af but we gotta let them make money
they have given us hundreds of hours of free content and you are whining about one minute of ad content.
This is what broke our will, I consider this the end of the period of Bulgaria known for self-determination, for heroism, bravery and success through sheer willpower and discipline
You are wrong, the true defeat was the Soviet occupation of 1944. Since then Bulgaria stopped existing as a sovereign country.
45 years of Sovietification is what destroyed the Bulgarian spirit. The result are lazy, whining, poorly educated and culturally subpar generations of people who cannot stand for themselves and expect that somebody else has to solve their problems - the Big Brother. In Bulgaria's case there is a Big Brother for real.
Kostya I don’t think so, I think it’s the fact they lost 3 wars in a row and just lost the stomach to fight again like France
Question from western neighbor... not trying to make anyone angry, just to understand... how did it happen that Bulgaria's princes/kings at the end of 19th and beginning of 20th century were Germans?
Don't think that it is only reason for problems between Bulgaria and Serbia, but I doubt that these people had interest of Bulgarian people as their priority...
@Baldur I am aware that it was same for Greece and Albania. For us, both dynasties from that time simply came from leaders of uprising against the Turks so I wondered why it was not the case for Bulgaria and Greece...
Maybe the territories were deemed too important, strategically, as border between Turkey, Russia and Germans, so greater powers wanted to make sure that their interest are protected...
Thanks for reply, cheers
To me it's pretty painful seeing how men tear apart the world and you are just powerless to do anything.
yeah, I really hate how they have that mobile game ad now too, really ticked off right now
At least when I am gone I'll not be alone with this thought heh :)
Yeaaaaaah..., tell that to all the happy nations who either reemerged after being wiped off the map or those who's people have been under foreign subjugation.
Europe: I’m gonna take some China land
Japan: me too!
Europe: NO U
Japan:ITS MANCHUKO TIME
The truth itself, told well ! Admirations to you from a Bulgarian.
Great video !
Great studio setup !
Great pronunciation !
Your pronunciation of the Bulgarian names and places is spot on ,which is pretty hard for an english speaker.
One bulgarian sub: *exists,
Allies: Hippety-hoppety, you are now our property!
Mathias Bartl
*Bulgarian Captain laughs & then sinks the submarine*
NO. The Allies never occupied Bulgaria. First, General Vazov stopped them. After they made a breach at Dobro pole, the Bulgarian soldiers mutinied. So the Allies waited for the chain of command to fall apart, and didn't risk any more casualties. The plan paid off: Bulgaria surrendered and saved them the cost of an occupation.
Congratulations on the accurate and objective analysis, especially putting the facts in the historical context. It is a rare achievement. I sign up for Curiosity Stream.
Thank you from Bulgaria
Was looking forward to this, thank you.
"War to end all wars!"
*Said war create enough problems to sustain a thousand more wars*
The funniest thing is that every country that wanted to rely on Wilsonian self determination never got it.
Also the British and French government is just being super lazy copy pasting Versailles treaty. Can they not even bother a moment to look over and actually think about the details for that particular region? Well nothing new here, considering how poorly they partitioned the middle east.
EDIT: Mussolini don't care if he did poorly in the election. He'll get in to power by force :P
@Samo CSKA youre very ignorant to assume that lol
I always especially like the quotes, from all episodes. Keep them coming.
Always nice to watch a decent educational video of the lesser covered countries of the world wars. Thank you
Wilson's 14 points is almost like the Newton's 3 Laws but for Nation-States. It's absolute and applicable for every situations. Oh wait....
So what you’re saying is this president had made a stupid decision proposing point that would supposedly make things better, why do you agree that some of the points made in his “14” points, I will admit there are some at that don’t exactly fit into how the ending of a war works.
You are an amazing channel, thanks from Bulgaria. The details are missing, but it is very well explained.🙂
Ah yes, who could forget the ancient bulgarian rule over Egypt and Morroco?
All of planet earth is rightful bulgarian land, everyone knows that
Yeah... Africa as home of homosapiens is a joke. All of the humans are coming from bulgasapiens, originating from Bulgaria.
@@iowsiam492 well we all know that humans came from vardar Macedonia and spread across the world then some centuries later vardar Macedonia became Bulgaria.
@@iowsiam492 no no Macedonia, Greece, Serbia and Romania had to give up India unfortunately and Africa their homelands too bad
As a Moroccan I can tell you that even our king doesn't know what is Bulgaria
This was a great video. Nice to hear some Balkan history! Jesse is an amazing speaker, so much emotion!
20:07 - You can argue that the ideal for national unification had dated back to Bulgaria's liberation, following the treaty of San Stefano 1878 and later the same year the Berlin congress which carved up Bulgarian lands, leaving less than a third of them intact. It's one of those sick jokes of history where the Russians gave us our dream state, only together with the great powers to take most of it away later
Then why do you guys expel Muslims out of those lands and your country?
@@aksmex2576 Your question didn't really had any connection to what he wrote, it feels more like you try to blame someone for something that your more familiar with and feel great about your ignorance. Real answer to your question is: "Do you feel as a muslim, understanding enough of other cultures so you could live in peace with them or your religion is the greatest and should be spread by force if needed?" That's the whole point because the vast majority or muslims in the middle east are still in the middle ages, you need your golden age of literature and science.
The combination of betraying the Bulgarians and letting Austria occupy Bosnia, they made later wars unavoidable.
The combination of betraying the Bulgarians, and letting Austria occupy Bosnia made later wars unavoidable
Bosnia should have been given to Serbia.
Another great episode. Could I recommend an episode on the Franco-Syrian war? It's something I know of, but actually very little about. I would imagine that most other viewers would find it enlightening
TBH, I never heard of it. There's too much to read about and not enough time.
Nicely informative video. Great job.
Thanks for your hard work guys!
All countries in the Balkans are like amputees, missing a part of their body that was cut off. The story of ethnic cleansing, refugees, lost homelands is our common national history. But I feel that the historical enmity is slowly dying out. As a Greek I wish the countrys around Greece where rich and prosperous so we can trade and do business and have too much to live for to go to war again.
@BulgaroSlav Get a grip mate, you remind me of the crabs in a bucket who grab another crab if it tries to crawl out. The whole region is economically stunted, you are not in competition with Greece and Romania but with a world market who is speeding to the future and has no love lost for any of us. You think Germany and France got rich during wartime? They got rich during peace. And with wealth they gain power and the people gain their self respect - now no one there is fussing for Alsace Lorraine or east Prussia anymore, they have better things to do. Thankfully most people are not edgy nihilist atheists like you and see the benefit in having peace.
@BulgaroSlav there is a reason for Bulgaria and Greece to be friends, we are the only ones that can stop the inevitable rise of the ottoman state
"borders on itself"
what a great quote
I have said it before but I had to say it again: You did an amazing work Jesse I think you were destined to continue this series. I'm looking forward to the next episode especially next year's Treaty of Trianon.
P.S: I hope you will add the video about Horthy's entering to Budapest on a white horse :)
Thanks Sammy! And yes, we will be talking about Horthy very soon...
You are a great, well-documented and researched historian. Thank You!
Losing the outlet to any Sea it's a catastrophe, especially, when we are talking about Aegean Sea(part of Mediterranean Sea).
Great episode - thank you a lot for the effort. I have only one small remark - breaking the pen after signing the treaty is one of these classical myths in history - you know, to show that ever beaten you have the upper hand.
Despite all the tough times we've been through, lasting for centuries, we've kept our culture, spirit, language and faith!
Very well researched
Tanks, Michael.
@@jessealexander2695
Tanks? Like in 'think tanks' or 'battle tanks'? 🤔
@@TheCimbrianBull hehe, must be my French-Canadian side subconsciously taking over. Thanks!
Bulgarians are our best neighbours! I want to apologize for Southern Dobrudja!
There is no need for apologize today. Iet's leave this behind us and live in friendship! Regards! ☺
@@sunshinegirl6718 thanks man(girl) Buy seriously, you're our fav neighbor, we don't take any pride in Southern dobruja. Our historians describe it's occupation as a national shame.
Got any land for greeks? I love both bulgaria and romania
@@DerDop Our historians should take note. The national curriculum is still treated as propaganda mill. My father still regards the wars we fought as noble and the bulgarian soldiers did nothing wrong despite the fact that his grandfather participated as soldier in some of the atrocities.
I think it would have been better if we had come to a better agreement about Macedonia, and if we had not struck brother against brother in 1913 and lots of Serbs are really sorry for what Tito did for both Bulgarian and Serbian nation.
"Bulgaria will border itself", In Hungary we say our country is the only one bordering itself lol
As a Romanian living in Transilvania… I don’t consider myself Hungarian, I like Budapest and I find your history intriguing but no
If we cared to, Denmark could make such a claim too considering Skåne and Sydslesvig :D
and you both come from Asia
@@dragasinbrankovic yes and we make a kingdom and an empire even before you develop a country 😉
@@dragasinbrankovic , well atleast we knew where we`re coming from and you didn`t. Also I am glad that my country is not named "Servia". Even today you`re serves to RuZZia and back in the day your contry was always servents to someone even to bulgarians.
I drifted off into a world of my own there thinking about what was said and what happened, very appreciated, Stefan
At the end of the day the west wanted to divide the east so they can conquer in all ways the east by all means. And they kinda did it afterwards with destroying Ugoslavia and such ...
Thanks for the great video.
Cheerz from Bulgaria :)
West didnt destroy yugoslavia. The serbs did.
@@froglifes6829 sure sure, keep believing a lie and live in a denial. US foreign intellegence services wrecked havock in south americas, balkans, middle east and now Asia.
@@OldTime--Gamer Says you. You are believing in a lie. I am a croat. I know the history of yugoslavia better than you. You werent Here when it happened. You didnt hear the bombs drop. You didnt see the serb propaganda and what they were saying. You are delusional. You really believe that the USA was behind it? 😂😂😂Youre a moron. There is no evidence to back that up. Now go Open up a history book and learn real history instead of being stupid.
And am not suprised that you dont know basic history since you are from South America. The education there is horrible. I dont blame you for being stupid.
Internal divide destroyed yougoslavia, the west finished them off
18:39 Mixing Metric and Imperial measurements never ends well.
Last time I was this early, Vardar Macedonians didn't claim to be heirs of Alexander the Great
Real macedonians are greeks so just call them vardarskans
Vardar Macedonians S e r b s
@@SrdjaZlopogledja Stop joking, they are ascendants of the Kuber Bulgarians
they are mostly bulgarians but few are serbs
kinda mixed
just call them vardarskans
they are not macedonians
One of the best channels on history on CZcams!
And so we see that in at this point in 1919 the Allies had pretty much lost it’s collective minds......
I very much liked the clip, especially the sources being named in the description, totally cool. My question is if there will be a video of slovenian (yugoslavian)- austrian war and subsequent referendum format with which disputed regions were awarded to austria.
The worst day for Bulgaria after 09.09.1944...
Greetings from Bucharest , Valentin . For Romania , after 23 august 1944 .
The Treaty of Bucharest was a temporary thing. 09.09.1944 lasts up to this day...
@@valentinstoyanov304 Грешка
@@valentinstoyanov304 Welp, that's what happens when you lose 3 wars in 30 years, all 3 freely fought.
Greece was pretty cucked too unfortunately, after the war with fascist Turkey
I love your channel keep up the great stuff
Masterpiece, this video. Surprised not to find Misha Glenny's book among the references though
allies were just too afraid of bulgaria. in ww1 allies lost so many battles against bulgaria while bein 40 times more than the bulgarians
Thank you for the excellent video! Greetings from an American descendant of ethnic Bulgarians from Aegean Macedonia (in modern Greece)!
The real Macedonia
@@jeffkarin7894 the real macedonia is basicly what greece has
and the real macedonians are greeks
only Monastiri in southern vardarska is part of macedonia and therefore belongs to greece
the rest is thrace and peonia
its only called macedonia because thats how the ottomans made the province of macedonia in their empire
vardarskans are bulgarians not macedonians
@@TheHunterOfYharnam Nice fake name. The Byzantine Empire didn't exist, ti was called Eastern Roman Empire, and it wasn't Greek.
@@DacLMK The byzantine empire is short for Eastern Roman Empire. It was Greek. Roman at the time meant Christian Greek. Greeks called themselves Romans all the way to the 20th century. We still do secondarily. Cope harder. Modern Greece is the empire itself reborn from its ashes and we will liberate our Capital!!!
@@DacLMK well if any greek of today somehow traveled back in time they'd all be considered romans so what's your point????
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Thank you for the video!
Actually, the actions of Stamboliyski during the rebellion are not so clear. We know that together with representatives of other political parties he did give speeches to the insurgent soldiers urging them to at least wait until the coming armistice becomes a fact. It was his close associate Rayko Daskalov who took command of the rebels and proclaimed the so called "Radomir Republic" with Stamboliyski as head of state; the actual participation of the agrarian leader into this segment of the events is quite doubtful. He certainly knew he could be suspected though as he went into hiding during the bloody aftermath.
It was a great tragedy for all of us. The loss of the mediterrean coast is most painful. The official who signed the treaty said: "I am carrying a crippled person". It is generally seen in that the loss of the mediterranean coast is like the loss of a limb.
Imagine France without its mediterranean coast and italo-spanish border. This is what happened to Bulgaria.
Deserved. This is what happens when you ally with the vilains.
@@freewal The slave-owners were much than the Germans.
The coast was inhabited by Greeks by majority. Stop winning
@@thesoundinyourhead1782 Stop lying like a Byzantine! Western Thrace was inhabited by Bulgarians and Turks. The greeks were less than 20 %. Read the what CIA world factbook say about your expansion in 1912 - 1923. Even the evil genius Venizelos didn't bother to bring arguments why Western Thrace should be given to Greece. He simply said that this annexation was needed to connect Western and Eastern greek territories. No ethnical or historical arguments, Greece just needs this land. Unfortunately Greece lost only its Eastern territories but Western Thrace remains Greek to this day. Believe me, we haven't forgotten that.
@@freewal Actually the true vilians was the serbs - not only killing the Archduke Franz Ferdinand but refusing to extradite the assassin to Austro-Hungaria which was the reason why WW1 started.
Educational. thank you.
RESPECT FOR THIS GREAT WORK!
Thanks for the great video. It explains really well the Bulgarian history and the issue that we have with Macedonia at now days. It will be great if more people become aware of those facts.
Bulgaria has a problem with Bulgaria. Your nation is slowly dying out, as well as ours. Greetings from Macedonia!
Imperial Romanticized propaganda always have selective "facts" to protect it imperial puppet in this case Bulgaria.
Bulgaria, as all Balkan countries, was and is manipulated by major powers.
More balkanics countries continue to defy and hate eachother more they are under foreign influence.
4:07 That guy next to Wilson --- I really like his smile.
As a Macedonian from nowadays North Macedonia (and former Vardar Macedonia), I thank you for the video. We definitely need more neutral history videos like this.
Thanks Naum, I appreciate that. We deal with a lot of sensitive topics in the 1919-1923 period and we put a lot of effort into trying to be historically responsible and balanced!
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@@user-ps2vj1zh4e sure buddy sure
it was never call Vadar Macedonia it was actually called vardaska!
@@101logic The Serbians named it Vardar Banovina. Because they hated the name Macedonia.
Congratulations for the pronunciation of the names!
I`m so sick that Western Europeans are drawing borders in the Balkans ever since Russians and Balkanians drove Ottomans from these lands. Same happened in the Middle East that is actually West Asia where British were drawing the borders so no wonder 100yrs later majority of ethnic conflicts are in these areas and somehow Brits and US are always involved. Time for us in the Balkans to take our fate in our own hands, we have very similar cultural backround, very rich history that is one of the oldest and most important in the World, why would we be puppet states of crony Western elite? We should make our own decentralized union of independent states with open borders, open economy between us not foreign capital allowed and military alliance.
Yugoslavia was one such idea, even Bulgaria was invited to join it as the 7th republic. People of the Balkans do not posses a sense of greatness and pragmatism for such things like Germans and Italians did during their unification. That is our lot sadly, we aren't primitive because we are poor, we are poor because we are primitive.
Yugoslavia tried something like that once... didn't end well
Balkans drawed borders themself. But serbs wanted to genocide every neighbour. Thats why europe had to hit them and not let them do it. Thats all.
@@asagadam550 Due to the serbians. Now try that again but everyone has their own country. And you cant use yugoslavia as an example since the balkans is much more than just South slavs.
@@froglifes6829 It really isn’t. Greece and maybe Romania if you count it as Balkan are the only other non Slavic Balkan nations
Love the set and props.
"Borders itself", hah!
Your catch phrase may not make much sense but I still love it.
The saddest day in our history. Even today we can not still recover.
You got away dirt cheap.
Same goes for Germany
@@VersusARCH And how is that???
@@koliopompenshtain Because for a surprise attack like the kind you launched against Serbia in WW1 Japan got, a few decades later: 2 nuclear bombs, millions of killed, a postwar occupation force that wrote them a new constitution and also lost huge chunks of territory. Bulgaria instead only lost a small town and a little bit of land.
@@VersusARCH Like the surprise attack that Serbia did to Bulgaria a couple of years earlier. Please don't be e stupid guy!
Долу Ньой!
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR THAT VIDEO!!
Minor mapping mistake spotted; at some points in the video you show the territory Bulgaria ceded to Greece as being exactly identical to the Greek province of Thrace. That is not 100% correct though. While most of Greek (AKA "western") Thrace was indeed held by Bulgaria between 1912 to 1919, the area that is adjacent to Adrianople(the northern part of the Evros district) as well as a small piece to the south near the river delta, actually remained in ottoman control until the end of WWI and the finalization of Greek-Turkish border, so the area Bulgaria controlled did not exactly correspond with the modern Greek province of Thrace, at least when it comes to some parts near the Turkish border... lots of other videos make this mistake on their maps because it's an easy to miss detail and they tend to copy each other so the error gets repeated, but it is incorrect.
If some day you intend to make an episode about post-war Belgium, I would recommend you the upcoming book of David Hensley, 'From Liberty to Identity: Defending French in Flanders, 1873-1974'. It deals with the legacy of the Flamenpolitik. I fear the rest of the historical literature on that topic is either in Dutch or in French.
And Witte E. et al., Political history of Belgium from 1830 onwards, 2003.
I bet Greece regrets not letting Bulgaria have North Macedonia
You lose :)
It will hurt their pride.
It was in the national interest of greece at the time to weaken bulgaria as much as possible, since we were national enemies from the time of the byzantines, while having mutual claims to a lot of territories. Also, North Macedonia was not supposed to be independent. That's why the greek government had no problem refering to it as "macedonia" while it was a federal yugoslav state, but tensions rose once it declared independence.
@@dinospapa7413 And since you can't face us in an open war conflict (you just can't compare to Bulgarian army), you decided to pretend to be an ally while you achieve your interests in Aegean Sea, and then stab a knife in our back! This is typical for you since the dawn of time...
Majority of population in Macedonia and Aegean Macedonia ware Macedonian ethnicity
Unfortunately we couldn’t have plebiscite to express our view.We ware under Roman Turkish Serbian Bulgarian occupation.
During First World War and balkans wars most struggle and population lost was pure Macedonian population . Macedonian ware forcefully conscripted in Bulgarian and Serbian army . If you research the topic you will find many documents which are providing facts.
Vmro was Macedonian revolutionaries organisation which main goal was Macedonian independence or autonomy in with in Bulgarian state. Protugerov and Aleksandrov only they supported Bulgarian they ware promised autonomy in Bulgarian state and reunification to all Macedonian from VARDAR , Pirin and Aegean Macedonia .
Macedonian ware forced out from Aegean Macedonia over 300k population all over the world ethnic cleansing exchange of population with Turkey done by new Greek state originally created by Bavarian king Otto 1833 -1863 then his successor was king George .
This exchange of population totally change the demographics to Aegean Macedonia
Second ethnic cleansing was done in post Second World War during Civil war
Macedonian ware on side of the Greek communist party they ware promised recognition and autonomy in new Greek post communist state.
Unfortunately again Macedonian struggle did not aligned with geopolitical interests of the British and French.
Finally we got our independence 1945 as part of federation of Yugoslavia
Ty for making documentary about my country :)))
It hurts but it is true. Wars do not bring happiness. Thank you for being objective...
Every central power post-WWI: *puts its hope on the principle of self determination.
Allied powers: Yeah about that...
It defenetly was a national catastrophe
Your english is a catastrophe
Crisp sry one i slipped in lol
Nobody forced Bulgaria to join war,just rage and lust for revenge
@@mihailojovicevic5576 and 300000 bulgarians outside Bulgaria....
@@Anonymous-qx1vd true
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Will you at one point cover what manela called "the Wilsonian moment". Because from my point of view everyone you covered who was arguing on the basis of Wilson's 14 point could be interpreted as prove that such a Wilsonian moment did exist
But none of the nations that relied on Wilson's 14 points actually got it...
A word of advice from a history teacher, I do make a fuss about it when one of my students doesn't know it and I hold it very important to make a distinction in nomenclature. What I mean by that is that the state which unified Croats, Serbs and Slovenes dominantly was called from the 1st of December 1918 and until 6th of January 1929 - Kingdom of the Serbs, Croats and Slovenes, after the 6th of January 1929, the state was officially called Kingdom of Yugoslavia, right up until 17th of April 1941 when the ceasefire was signed.
2:45 Jack Black is a time traveller
This map of Bulgarian Thrace is just slightly off. It should mostly but not entirely correspond to Greece's "Western Thrace" province. That province took it's current shape after some additional territorial swaps that involved the Ottomans to make the Marica River the border between Turkey and Greece. The territory Bulgaria lost is slightly different. Anyway very interesting episode.
The maps at the time should refer to the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes (understand that you used Yugoslavia for ease).
Ето ни и нас...
глей са кви сме утепляци по-зле сме от тогава
@@MightOfChrist Хора с твоето потребителско име и профилна снимка са живото доказателство...
@@MightOfChrist Тогва са слагали дървени трици в хляба, да им пълни корема. Недей да мечтаеш за тъмните моменти на българите, понеже си обиден на някаква дреболия в личния си живот.
@@zoomer_zveno добре няма да споря всеки си има мнение
@@giveussomevodka да беше дреболия...
Great video and very interesting facts! One of them however makes me curious - at 12:48 is said that Bulgaria had to "retain access to the sea via the free port of Alexandroupolis". Can you share some sources of this statement as I couldn't find anything related to it? Thanks in advance and once again - thank you for this video!
Greetings from Bulgaria!
When Bulgaria couldn't pay its reparations, the Greeks sabotaged this clause. Bulgaria complained, but was politically isolated after losing the war and nothing happened.
Will these videos be separated by subject, if a person wants to binge the Russian Civil War, for instance?