Salman Rushdie and Arundhati Roy interview (1997)

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  • Authors Salman Rushdie, Arundhati Roy, and Barbara Crossette reflect on the 50th anniversary of India's independence and its cultural and political climate today.
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  • @ManufacturingIntellect
    @ManufacturingIntellect  Před 6 lety +19

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  • @roshankaul1008
    @roshankaul1008 Před rokem +222

    Evocative!
    “There is romance about India. There is mystery about India. There is for all the poverty, for all the pain, for all the violence, something that makes it different--Grace.”

    • @tejmachhar4903
      @tejmachhar4903 Před rokem +4

      Mr Koul a Kashmiri yes. Isn't Arundhati Roy a horrible person?

    • @aniljaiswal2090
      @aniljaiswal2090 Před rokem +5

      @@tejmachhar4903 what made you say this? Curious... I find her brave with rational intellectual skills

    • @tejmachhar4903
      @tejmachhar4903 Před rokem +10

      @@aniljaiswal2090 You must be from the breaking India gang. What is wrong with you, your name is Anil Jaiswal. Kashmir is an integral part of India and times ahead there is Akhand Bharat having a saffron flag. Do you have any questions

    • @richardwestwood8212
      @richardwestwood8212 Před rokem

      You wrote it down as if it were the holy writ !!!!!!!!!

    • @KBSINN
      @KBSINN Před rokem

      what a nice way to put it for all the stupid administration we select for governance and an even pathetic customs we respect and so oblige in the name of religion.

  • @okay850
    @okay850 Před rokem +213

    Arundhati:it's so scary that there is a line that one cannot cross. Salman Rushdie: l intend to cross all the lines.😆❤️❤️❤️

    • @apieceoflife2732
      @apieceoflife2732 Před rokem

      She was talking about incest.

    • @chaitanyavelamala7268
      @chaitanyavelamala7268 Před rokem

      @@apieceoflife2732 irony is even in that case muslims are most into incest & his comment still makes sense. They marry nephews.
      Not just cousins but even sisters aren't spared

    • @krishnaghop977
      @krishnaghop977 Před rokem +10

      Rushdie is wife beater so he definately crossed the line lost all the respect

    • @Megabimol
      @Megabimol Před rokem +17

      @@krishnaghop977 where is the source of your claim

    • @okay850
      @okay850 Před rokem +4

      @@apieceoflife2732 she was not talking about incest.She was talking about being critical of the govt n scared of being targeted.lts her propaganda eversince.

  • @hussainoid
    @hussainoid Před rokem +29

    Arundhati is passionate (and optimistic, as naive people like to call her a pessimist) about India in ways that an average subscriber of a radical ideology simply cannot comprehend. She speaks from a level of depth and detail that they can never know even exists. And she is apprehensive about India in ways that they will never choose to acknowledge.
    Yes, India is an intact marriage.

    • @RoshanKumar-dw7zh
      @RoshanKumar-dw7zh Před 11 měsíci +4

      It's pretty clear what she intended even back then. The hatred for BJP is deep rooted in her mind and I don't think she can ever let it go. And, yes the nehruvian secularism always makes things look politically correct yet practically awful.

    • @hussainoid
      @hussainoid Před 11 měsíci +9

      @@RoshanKumar-dw7zh Alternatively, the blind servitude for BJP is so deep rooted in your mind that any criticism of a political ideology appears "hatred" to you, as if it's personal. BJP is essentially a far-right Hindutva extremist party for which development and welfare is secondary and majoritarian, communal politics is primary. You cannot comprehend that, you simply lack the bandwidth.

    • @RoshanKumar-dw7zh
      @RoshanKumar-dw7zh Před 11 měsíci

      @@hussainoid Amidst all the fancy vocabulary what clearly can be seen is that the Left, state parties and the Congress all join hands to uproot this Hindu nationalist party called BJP. In times like these when anything and everything can work just to remove bjp from power, I would have liked to see the leftist liberals show some spine. But, alas it's Kaliyuga... We can talk about Ayodhya time and again but no one cares about Shah Bano !

    • @umax870
      @umax870 Před 7 měsíci

      @@hussainoid there is no such thing as hindutva extremist and she supported muslim terrorist.

    • @crazyjester993
      @crazyjester993 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@hussainoid seriously hindutva is no where when it comes to islamic extremism , have it been at parity of islam you guys would be not allowed to utter a single just like what happened with salman rushdie 2022.

  • @shubhanshujain752
    @shubhanshujain752 Před rokem +343

    What is the freedom of expression without the freedom to offend?
    Salman Rushdie

    • @captain4595
      @captain4595 Před rokem +6

      Freedom to offend doesn't come under freedom of speech

    • @shubhanshujain752
      @shubhanshujain752 Před rokem +26

      @@captain4595 you offended me by saying that and yet you are okay with pursuing your freedom of speech. Why cant anyone else do that ?

    • @fishfingers8441
      @fishfingers8441 Před rokem +8

      @@captain4595 that’s the most baffling contradiction I’ve ever seen. By definition the freedom to speak is the freedom to have your opinions changed, to hear what you don’t want to hear. But sure, fine, let’s make a rule that we no longer may offend. Number one; define hate (impossible). Second, those rules of what’s regarded offensive are great for you until your opposing party takes over government and then your argument will be used against you. They’ll play your game and best believe what you class as acceptable and non offensive will offend them very much. Then you become the one silenced and it’s your own doing. Go live in North Korea I’d you like that idea. Not a good one I hope you’ll find. We’re not Stalin or hitler so stop acting like that’s the kind of order you’d want imposed.

    • @captain4595
      @captain4595 Před rokem +2

      @@fishfingers8441 I will not debate much but clearly there's a limit to FOE.Those include,not giving slangs on Mother and sister,never spread misinformation, don't speak about obscene things in front of children, never disrespect teachers,elders,never provoke anyone intentionally.You can't follow them,you don't deserve Freedom of speech.

    • @fishfingers8441
      @fishfingers8441 Před rokem +7

      @@captain4595 that’s called oppression my friend, not to mention that everything you listed other than misinformation for advertising are absolutely legal and allowed. You seem to need to do some reading.

  • @disliketheclickbaits8858

    Arundhati Roy was so soft-spoken.. anyone would fall for her. ❤️

  • @veiledrebecca4659
    @veiledrebecca4659 Před rokem +180

    An erudite Salman Rushdie speaking in the 50th year of Independence. Please get well soon Sir and enlighten us with your take on the 75th year of Independent India.

    • @reecosmicatomsb8576
      @reecosmicatomsb8576 Před rokem +4

      Abrahamics can take enlightenment from Rushdie. Hindus don't need enlightenment from abrahamics. We're enlightened since ages... Only we were extremely soft & magnanimous with our enemies till now..

    • @veiledrebecca4659
      @veiledrebecca4659 Před rokem +19

      @@reecosmicatomsb8576 The one who loves all intensely begins perceiving in all living beings, a part of himself. And he who conceiving the self as a part of the universal soul does not look down on anyone. He becomes a lover of all. He becomes a lover of all, a part and parcel of the Universal Joy.He flows with the stream of happiness, and is enriched by each soul.
      - the Yajur Veda

    • @reecosmicatomsb8576
      @reecosmicatomsb8576 Před rokem

      @@veiledrebecca4659 Hindus know all these things. Don't use abrahamic tricks to fool Hindus. Those days are gone.. History is full of evidence of how you'll have cheated the good hearted Hindus...
      It's time for adharmic forces to be vanquished. Even our Lords Sri Rama & Sri Krishna use the appropriate ways to destroy adharma...
      This confrontation is going to happen sooner or later.
      Today no Hindu or no dharmic human being believes in the lies, manipulation, deceit of the abrahamics.

    • @randolphpinkle4482
      @randolphpinkle4482 Před rokem +11

      @@reecosmicatomsb8576 That kind of arrogance is one reason why India is still a developing country.

    • @reecosmicatomsb8576
      @reecosmicatomsb8576 Před rokem

      @@randolphpinkle4482 as if America , Europeans, British etc etc are humble. Their history is full of plunder & genocide...

  • @Sonuthethinker
    @Sonuthethinker Před 5 lety +360

    Roy's so called negative for the nation in fact carries the seeds of positivity for the betterment of Indians.

    • @drgiriprasad.7977
      @drgiriprasad.7977 Před 4 lety +13

      Never

    • @confusedsoul4746
      @confusedsoul4746 Před 4 lety +3

      We all carry the sewed of positivity, I think it's about how we express that, Rushdie expression is famous because it impress the liberal mind. Roy do it the other way round.

    • @KilgoreTrout-vo7uy
      @KilgoreTrout-vo7uy Před 4 lety +1

      I call bullshit. I have been following her for about a decade now and all her talk for the betterment of Indians is just thinly veiled contempt for India.

    • @KilgoreTrout-vo7uy
      @KilgoreTrout-vo7uy Před 3 lety

      @@AS-lo6xo idk who you are or how much you read but if there is one book that you must read to understand the current scenario, it is Arun Shourie's Eminent Historians.

    • @KilgoreTrout-vo7uy
      @KilgoreTrout-vo7uy Před 3 lety

      @@AS-lo6xo false equivalence. Idk whether to think of you as insincere or merely intellectually brittle and thus closed off to worldviews that would challenge your own. The work by Shourie is amazingly well researched and the citations are on point. Judge it on its own merits and not based on your preconceived notions as to supposed tyrants and their associates.
      I could recommend other scholarly works on Indian history but I recommend Shourie because it's a good starting point wherein he provides a comparative analysis of various schools of historiography in India, whilst relying on primary sources.
      Other historians that you may refer to are Jadunath Sarkar, RC Majumdar, Meenakshi Jain, Seetaraam Goel. Read these works alongside the works by Marxist historians such as RS Sharma, Bipan Chandra, Romila Thapar, Irfan Habib for a fair assessment of the subject and decide for yourself. If, however, you have your ideological blinkers, I am afraid no amount of scholarship can help you see the whole picture.

  • @askaichin
    @askaichin Před 5 lety +279

    One interesting observation. Arundhati comes across strikingly more original in thought than anyone on the table here. Breath of fresh air as they say.

    • @lampad4549
      @lampad4549 Před 2 lety +23

      You need to listen to more people.

    • @user-cz7sb1ow5d
      @user-cz7sb1ow5d Před 2 lety +31

      Totally disagree! I come from the same town that she grew up in, I can see she is typical of many people of my neighbourhood that love to dwell on,y on the negative. India especially Kerala where she & I are from have progressed enormously & I don’t mean state wealth since independence. I mean the lives of people! The children of domestic workers & labourers no longer are bound by their past. Free education to uneducated parents on nutrition, importance of educating children, social welfare for underprivileged are just some of the few policies in Kerala that has enabled someone like me from a low caste, decedent of 7 generations of illiterate labourers become educated & work abroad leading a multinational company. I am by no means the exception! A vast majority of Indians from Kerala live lifes very different to their parents. Yes Kerala is only a small part of India but this pattern of progress is not limited to Kerala & Arundhati Roy who lives in Kerala & is I must add vastly protected from many of the tragedies unfortunately happening in certain northern parts of India, seem not to have nothing positive to say, A bleak future for India is what she predicts! Yes India has problems but what Arundhati Roy simply ignores is that amidst all of the problems is the resilience of our people, the progress we have made & are still making in the lives of the general public. Yes we have big problems that are yet to be resolved,we have political parties that are at each other s throats & political agendas that sometimes create havoc in our beautiful country but India & Indians are not limited to simply that! We have overcome problems & only got stronger- why has Arundhati Roy got nothing positive to say,she reminds me of a sly Kerala politician who complains & whines but has no positive solution to offer!

    • @janeswan1124
      @janeswan1124 Před 2 lety +10

      @@user-cz7sb1ow5d Well said about the opportunistic negativism of these "intellectuals"; hope India never falls to this woke culture

    • @nerinav
      @nerinav Před rokem

      I agree .
      Arundhati is special.
      I : INTELLECTUAL
      N: NATIONALISTIC
      D: DRAVIDIANS
      I: INDEPENDENT
      A: ARYANS

    • @movie30000
      @movie30000 Před rokem +1

      100 percent. She seems to be the sole soul of this conversation because she cares and the rest are just trying to superficially touch and smooth out effects of her depth

  • @govinddwivedi582
    @govinddwivedi582 Před rokem +9

    How serene Arundhati mam is!

  • @MJ-nz6ys
    @MJ-nz6ys Před rokem +5

    This Interview brings back a lot of memory of my teenage hood.

  • @anitadhawan9746
    @anitadhawan9746 Před rokem +1

    Thanks very much for this !🙏🏾

  • @confusedsoul4746
    @confusedsoul4746 Před 3 lety +214

    That year I was born, I find blissful to know India was forward thinking that time as we had such great writers that time. Healthy and honest discussion which seem rarely now. It has been cornered somewhere behind noise of arnab goswami

    • @sagarchakraborty2928
      @sagarchakraborty2928 Před 2 lety +11

      Alas! Felt Same.

    • @harshilgala9121
      @harshilgala9121 Před rokem +12

      They started the discussion staying india is all about poverty and illiteracy.. i guess this interview took place in 1997. So you believe that was india in1997 and the healthy discussion was due to fact that all were of the same view.. btw i hate arnab.. but to portray a country so negatively is so cruel

    • @divyanshtiwari3547
      @divyanshtiwari3547 Před rokem +3

      Actually Leftist are really careful and great speakers but cant say the same about their characters. They will never say whats going on in their minds. They'll only speak what seems cool or appreciated. For example this woman talks many ideas of India but still supports many who want to break from it.

    • @kamilshah8966
      @kamilshah8966 Před rokem +11

      I hope you know same india was the first country to ban his book.

    • @Tuhin_Hanafee
      @Tuhin_Hanafee Před rokem

      You didnt read his book for sure....
      Rushdi can write only shit, .....

  • @mn-mj8gi
    @mn-mj8gi Před rokem +6

    They're so differently alike, it's beautiful to listen to.

  • @adityashankar5211
    @adityashankar5211 Před 6 lety +71

    20 years down the line since this interview came and we are still fighting and shelling bullets, violating ceasefires while still shaking hands like hypocrites at diplomatic meetings. Sad

    • @adityashankar5723
      @adityashankar5723 Před rokem +1

      We have same name

    • @immasniper3832
      @immasniper3832 Před rokem +5

      @@adityashankar5723 What are you 12?

    • @RoshanKumar-dw7zh
      @RoshanKumar-dw7zh Před 11 měsíci

      It all originates when political leaders who are chosen to decide and lead the country become victims of self idealism and vote bank politics. Half of the issues which are prevalent in today's times could have easily been settled yet no one dared to touch them. Political correctness and pseudo secularism has its ways and it has been detrimental to India.

  • @sumukhbharadwaj4802
    @sumukhbharadwaj4802 Před 5 lety +277

    I can't help getting swept away by Arundhati Roy's charm and intellect.

  • @ManoxKB
    @ManoxKB Před 3 lety +44

    Arundhati was as firm then as she is now. Spectacular. I always felt that she is ahead of time in many aspects, and this interview confirmed it even more. My goodness she's even more beautiful now, after more than 20 years.

  • @MUSICMANSIONWORLD
    @MUSICMANSIONWORLD Před rokem +3

    What a great interview it was

  • @priyanshishukla2458
    @priyanshishukla2458 Před rokem +46

    If one can ignore the 1997 in the video title and the technical aspects which age this video it's absolutely impossible to believe it's a 25 year old conversation. At least Roy 's points hold water even today. Only the burning issues have become a wildfire now.

    • @Vk-sk7nm
      @Vk-sk7nm Před rokem

      The only person who makes sense here is Rushdie. Arundati is all about fearmongering, Victimhood and showing a whole population in Bad light. Who are already struggling with these issues.

    • @pranaysuvarna3906
      @pranaysuvarna3906 Před rokem

      She is a Marxist !

    • @RoshanKumar-dw7zh
      @RoshanKumar-dw7zh Před 11 měsíci

      Rushdie and Roy had different opinions and comments despite the same situations. It's up to you what you want to do and believe in !

    • @pranaysuvarna3906
      @pranaysuvarna3906 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Nonsense 🤣

    • @srebalanandasivam9563
      @srebalanandasivam9563 Před 7 měsíci +3

      Roy will be irrelevant soon as the gallery she appeals to, will disappear soon

  • @mainukalita3784
    @mainukalita3784 Před rokem +2

    wow.loved it.to hear about India in 3 dif perspectives.v enduring.

  • @pasosdegigante7
    @pasosdegigante7 Před rokem +57

    this might be arundhati's first time at charlie rose, sitting next to two seasoned professionals with much more experience than her, and yet she's completely cool, fresh, confident and really interesting

    • @udaikumar1782
      @udaikumar1782 Před rokem

      but she was a pain to listen to with so much fillers.

  • @hoshiarsinghgill2157
    @hoshiarsinghgill2157 Před 6 lety +144

    Arundhati is giving a true narrative of what is happening in India some people only want to hear praise and boasting !

    • @theawantikamishra
      @theawantikamishra Před 5 lety +7

      Exactly

    • @gustofzephyr947
      @gustofzephyr947 Před 4 lety +22

      No she's giving a colonial slave narrative to India.

    • @ankurkaushik7190
      @ankurkaushik7190 Před 3 lety +6

      @@gustofzephyr947 opinion may differ on this, but your comment seems entirely irrelevant and out of the box.

    • @gustofzephyr947
      @gustofzephyr947 Před 3 lety +19

      @@ankurkaushik7190 It is relevant because in order for a nation to prosper it needs to have a national narrative based on historical facts, not stereotypes and broad generalisations with colonial biases, the kind that Roy presents here.

    • @abhishekmhatre1554
      @abhishekmhatre1554 Před 3 lety +17

      @@ankurkaushik7190 Just because you disagree with someone doesn't mean their views are irrelevant. Next time try rebutting their views rather than just dismissing them.

  • @nazmussaquib9260
    @nazmussaquib9260 Před 3 lety +69

    I am reading the comments - and realized that once mostly privileged people had access to the internet. If if you can't see the sense of entitlement two white people have shown in this conversation, and did not realize that only Arundhati Roy is talking about the people in India - it means you belong to the upper caste/ruling class/or neo -rich from corrupt capitalism. She was talking about "tribalism" in 1997 and foreign affairs were magazine talking about after "trump". So, the privileged class ignored the plight of people as long as the rupture becomes inconvenient.

    • @noamchomsky729
      @noamchomsky729 Před 3 lety

    • @jacksonkingk2240
      @jacksonkingk2240 Před rokem +2

      wow...excellent analysis.. this is the first thing which struck my mind. salman was a bit of a dreamer maybe because of his distance from inida but arundhati was an realist intellectual the tribalism blew my mind...how accurate.

    • @Konoronn
      @Konoronn Před rokem

      Oh shut up. The internet was better before 'underprivileged' people gained access to it.

  • @rajnirani7772
    @rajnirani7772 Před rokem +38

    I don't understand how a person like Salman who has such immense love for India and its uniqueness can be hated here. It's sad.

    • @HeathWatts
      @HeathWatts Před rokem

      Religion instills hatred in people. Salman "insulted" Islam somehow with his writing.
      Look at the Hindutva movement led by fascist Modi and its treatment of Muslims.
      Christian fascists in the US are taking away women's rights.
      Jewish fascists in Israel are commiting apartheid against Palestinians.
      When one believes in an imaginary being, a god, then one is susceptible to fascism, and is prone to committing hateful acts.

    • @chaitanyavelamala7268
      @chaitanyavelamala7268 Před rokem +7

      It's a certain community that hates him for speaking the truth & issues fatwas. Now he can never set his foot in India. We don't need to be ashamed as Indians as a whole

    • @HeathWatts
      @HeathWatts Před rokem +6

      @@chaitanyavelamala7268 That is true. It's just the Islamo-fascists in India that are shameful, just as Modi's Hindu-fascists are in India, and Trump's Christo-fascists are in the US. Religion coupled with the right wing leads to bad outcomes.

    • @debabratadatta3696
      @debabratadatta3696 Před rokem

      @@HeathWatts what is hindu fascists asshole?

    • @HeathWatts
      @HeathWatts Před rokem +1

      @@debabratadatta3696 Modi supporters are fascists.

  • @NidzShah-ps6kr
    @NidzShah-ps6kr Před 5 lety +2

    Arundhati and Salman both describe 2 Indias that are very much a reality and coexist with each other even in real time. Understanding both is very very important. I hope we Indians can get over this tryst with nationalism and embrace dissent in all it's forms :)

  • @mziaee
    @mziaee Před 6 lety +106

    Salman talks about the image of India - crafted by politicians and shaped by media - glitzy, mysterious and always larger than life; but in reality - superfluous. Arundhati talks about the Indians - their struggles, their fears & fights on a daily basis with living a decent life; and their bloody perseverance through it all. Not a damn country in the world where Indians have not outshine the locals - cause they've swum in shit all their prev life and now given perfumed streets, they bloody shine! In short the India that Rushdie speaks about has not a tenth of the fortitude that the Indians, Arundhati speaks about. If the vast majority of my fellow countrymen stop getting distracted and vote out the assholes and in the able administrators; maybe that India will live upto those Indians.

    • @happy_biird
      @happy_biird Před 10 měsíci +2

      Who are these able administrators?

  • @kurapatichaitanya705
    @kurapatichaitanya705 Před rokem +3

    Salman Rushdie is our hero we need. We should protect him at all cost

  • @manjulaadappa6128
    @manjulaadappa6128 Před rokem +6

    I second Arundathi Roys view about the most unique feature of indians " The depth of a relationship..... Of standing by each other through thick & thin, the deep sense of commitment.... " For better or for worse"... ... a la "Romeo & Juliet"... which in the modern world is old fashioned, but to the indian is emotionally rewarding!

  • @satanshameer690
    @satanshameer690 Před 7 lety +58

    Lol , A Hinduism Critique and Islam Critique coming together. I'm enjoying this

    • @remo6130
      @remo6130 Před 4 lety +7

      I would they're more of immorality critiques, religion just does plays a huge part in that

    • @KilgoreTrout-vo7uy
      @KilgoreTrout-vo7uy Před 4 lety +3

      @@remo6130 no. Arundhati Roy is just a hate-mongering bigot.

    • @paulatreides6218
      @paulatreides6218 Před 3 lety +5

      @@KilgoreTrout-vo7uy I think you are a Modi fan

    • @bprithiraj8611
      @bprithiraj8611 Před 3 lety +1

      @@paulatreides6218 she is a bigot.perhaps modi and india made her that way.

    • @ABhattacharya
      @ABhattacharya Před 2 lety

      @@bprithiraj8611 She was always this way.

  • @rohitr1381
    @rohitr1381 Před rokem +10

    Salman Rushdie ... The great!

  • @shivaprasadgurabasukagali59

    You can clearly see, Arundhati Roy is so pessimistic about everything and Salman is so optimistic about India.

    • @sumanchowdhury6162
      @sumanchowdhury6162 Před rokem +42

      Rushdi had similar vibes tht any outsider has about India, a charm. Roy grew up inside, in a tiny village, a single mother, outsider f her community, fighting a battle to fit into the world. So different perspective.

    • @sourav2124
      @sourav2124 Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@sumanchowdhury6162roy is fucked up stupid

    • @ankushds7018
      @ankushds7018 Před 9 měsíci +12

      And who ended up being more realistic?😂

    • @Nobo_On_The_Rocks
      @Nobo_On_The_Rocks Před 8 měsíci +18

      For one thing, she is the one who stayed back , embraced the culture and still fights for the ppl as an activist..even now.
      On the contrary Rushdie, and no hard feelings for him, is seeing from an hour glass view of an outsider.
      Long story short see India now🙏

    • @nadiahossain6827
      @nadiahossain6827 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@Nobo_On_The_Rocks well said

  • @rohanron9794
    @rohanron9794 Před rokem

    This might be the best interview of Rushdie ever been🖤🖤🖤🖤

  • @shreejitsarkar7401
    @shreejitsarkar7401 Před 5 lety +70

    I just love the god of small things. it's so unique .the storyline, style of narration -just amazing.

    • @harshvardhanrollno-4343
      @harshvardhanrollno-4343 Před rokem +1

      😂😂😂😂😂

    • @apieceoflife2732
      @apieceoflife2732 Před rokem +10

      @@harshvardhanrollno-4343 Do Bhakts have anything meaningful to say instead of trolling?

    • @govinddwivedi582
      @govinddwivedi582 Před rokem +3

      yes, it is very beautifully written

    • @devakinandan7659
      @devakinandan7659 Před rokem +1

      @@apieceoflife2732 not so bad to laugh at terrori$ts tho

    • @Findorfound
      @Findorfound Před rokem +4

      @@apieceoflife2732 Name calling people based on an emoji?
      Only some third grade kid would read Arundhati' book.
      Nobody in his/her sane mind would take her opinion on its face value, they lack substance and worth nothing.
      But some do take that seriously and turn up horrible.
      Like, just look at the way you're reacting in particular and some people in general, who rely on rhetoric than facts.

  • @janeswan1124
    @janeswan1124 Před 2 lety +13

    26:25 "Immense grace...." So true of India 😇

  • @robinsen8858
    @robinsen8858 Před 5 lety +10

    Interesting point Roy makes about concentrating on primary education, even if it is more difficult to say, as she does, primary education rather than higher education.

  • @arshsingh6553
    @arshsingh6553 Před rokem +22

    Love how everyone is soo erudite. Such a nice simple candid conversation about how & why each of them love India. :D

  • @robinsen8858
    @robinsen8858 Před 5 lety +6

    Interesting how Salman Rushdie said that India's jubilee shows that Americans are really interested in India whereas Britain does, but that things were changing. Things have indeed changed since then. Despite some isolationist forces many Americans now understand that their giant nation needs to develop relations with another giant nation - India. Britain seems to have more difficulty in transforming its relationship with India

  • @themaverick7707
    @themaverick7707 Před rokem +5

    Roy looks flirtatious always 😆

  • @nitaichandhalder6079
    @nitaichandhalder6079 Před 5 lety +36

    Salman Rushdie is a sea of knowledge

  • @miku1408
    @miku1408 Před 2 lety +2

    Depth of human relationship.. could not have articulated this any better.

  • @shaolin89
    @shaolin89 Před 7 lety +117

    Arundhati is agonizingly beautiful haha wow.

    • @eagleaurumwealthclub3484
      @eagleaurumwealthclub3484 Před 6 lety +1

      Yes though this video is twenty years old.

    • @ananyamalhotra9032
      @ananyamalhotra9032 Před 3 lety +4

      I would have really lIked if you would commented on her prolific writing and empathetic way of speaking than conferring her with the compliment of ‘beauty’. I know you could have meant beauty as a neutral term but it certainly isn’t perceived as one.

    • @sisyphus645
      @sisyphus645 Před 2 lety

      @@ananyamalhotra9032 And where does the fault lie? Within the perceiver, if you ask me

  • @anshumansinha1970
    @anshumansinha1970 Před rokem +3

    On a quiet day you can hear another world breathing...

  • @deeliciousplum
    @deeliciousplum Před 4 lety +45

    Thank you for sharing this discussion. While listening to the ideas and concerns shared by Arundhati Roy, I was compelled to explore snippets of her writings. Arundhati Roy, as like Salman Rushdie, is a priceless humanitarian. 🌸

    • @naura9952
      @naura9952 Před 3 lety +3

      Read GOD OF SMALL THINGS

    • @deeliciousplum
      @deeliciousplum Před 3 lety +1

      @@naura9952 Thank you for the heads-up on Arundhati's book.

  • @PobitroMon
    @PobitroMon Před rokem +6

    Salman Rushdie was always ahead if his time!

    • @ambhat3953
      @ambhat3953 Před rokem

      hope he goes further ahead to graveyard soon

  • @sukumardutta9260
    @sukumardutta9260 Před rokem

    The interview with the authors Salman Rushdie Arundhuti Roy and Barbara crossed the reflection on the Fifth anniversary of India's independence and it's cultural and political climate which is need to know for all

  • @deeptiparmar4019
    @deeptiparmar4019 Před 5 lety +101

    I feel sad to see that people are so negative about either Arundhati or Salman . One should understand writers will write what they feel and what is needed for society and we can't compare any two writers . Arundhati gives a critic view about india which is not untrue even in 2019. Salman talks about the positive future india holds out of whatever has happened. We should not compare these two people or voices . We need both and we should appreciate both . Such brave , true , critic , positive people are required to help us staying on our Feet always instead of flying . Most of the people here in comments are highly non-democratic in their thoughts . And I feel it's hypocritical to be getting so abusive on the honest views of both of them if you are truly democratic !

    • @pranavkumarraghuvanshi7977
      @pranavkumarraghuvanshi7977 Před rokem +2

      Just the way people should understand that writers will write what they feel, similarly writers should understand that people will react how they feel.

    • @didyouknow2966
      @didyouknow2966 Před rokem +1

      That happens when one lacks perspectives

    • @amalsali3422
      @amalsali3422 Před rokem

      "Positive"?? It doesn't gel well

    • @ambhat3953
      @ambhat3953 Před rokem

      If AR and SR have nonsense to say....why is that only they can say it ? If you think we are speaking nonsense, live with it. FOS works both ways, that's what you libtards always forget

    • @gatocachorro7998
      @gatocachorro7998 Před rokem

      Arundhati is a wolf in 🐑 clothing. She deserves it.

  • @dulalroy5407
    @dulalroy5407 Před 4 lety +6

    I admire both of them

    • @VSM101
      @VSM101 Před rokem +1

      roy his a wholesale traitor that called separatists ghandis with guns while shiting on ghandi in western media its obvious she hates India and hindus fuck her and fuck you

  • @manofthematch7193
    @manofthematch7193 Před 4 lety +2

    01.12
    Invitation from the eyes. Slightly raising eyebrows not blinking

  • @koushikchandrasekaran4385

    Salman for unpartitioned india 🇮🇳, he makes a lot of sense since that time

  • @errol700
    @errol700 Před 4 lety +90

    For the people who disagree with Arundhati Roy's political views, I say read her book " The God of Small Things"; not for the story, or the plot or the 'scandal' but just to admire her control over the written English language. She made the language of our colonizers her very own. Not many can match her minute observations and descriptions- one can picture the vegetation, feel the air, taste the pickles, smell the stench of feces, be disgusted by the description of bodily fluids, and so on.
    I decided not to read any of her future fiction writings because I think she can never ever better her first book. An artist or writer produces a masterpiece only once in their lifetime, and that book, regardless of its size, is a true masterpiece.
    (I still disagree with her on many of her views though).

    • @manteshsharma9351
      @manteshsharma9351 Před 2 lety +2

      Indians in general do make things of their colonizers as their very own anyway!

    • @sivalikanand2718
      @sivalikanand2718 Před 2 lety +2

      @@manteshsharma9351 what does that mean...colonizer make people do everything for them... Understand history and politics in the right sense

    • @manteshsharma9351
      @manteshsharma9351 Před 2 lety +5

      @@sivalikanand2718 Africa is in the process of decolonisation. East Asia already did that.
      In India the very proposal of decolonisation is somehow "right wing", "Hindutava agenda", "Fascist agenda".

    • @sivalikanand2718
      @sivalikanand2718 Před 2 lety +1

      @@manteshsharma9351 These are are just the ideas of the ruling party...There are other parties which have other ideas...but the govt is in power by playing dirty politics and people are ignorant...but it doesnt mean that "Indians in general " are accepting the Bristish ideas....People are poor and ignorant.... It's not even their fault

    • @manteshsharma9351
      @manteshsharma9351 Před 2 lety +4

      @@sivalikanand2718 you just proved my point 🙂
      We have a town named after Dalhousie. If anyone dares speaking against that, he/she already is put into some bracket. We all know what Dalhousie's legacy is for "Bharat".
      We have places named after Bakhtiyar (burnt India's most precious library), Ghazani (attacked, rasacked our most important place of power, worship and treasure), Iskander Butkishan (destroyed a whole legacy of India and indian'ness in Kashmir).
      Acknowledging this and systematically removing them from our imprints is decolonisation (like it happens in all other places. Bringing statues of Columbus in West is liberating and bringing Ghazani/Ghouri/ Khilji in India is fascism).
      Do you see this happening without being labelled as "saffron agenda"? If not, then keep beating the bush, it won't matter anything.

  • @rahulbose4323
    @rahulbose4323 Před rokem +3

    This is just brilliant.

    • @proudindian9140
      @proudindian9140 Před rokem

      English coversation hai, kuch English me bol deta hu, cool lagunga - Rahul "bose D Ka"

  • @AshrafKhan-xv7uu
    @AshrafKhan-xv7uu Před 7 lety +172

    Salman Rushdie is man of wisdom.

    • @sam7748
      @sam7748 Před 7 lety +1

      But you're NOT.

    • @AshrafKhan-xv7uu
      @AshrafKhan-xv7uu Před 7 lety +23

      sam7748
      And what made u think, that you are?

    • @sam7748
      @sam7748 Před 7 lety +1

      Because I'm white and not brown.

    • @AshrafKhan-xv7uu
      @AshrafKhan-xv7uu Před 7 lety +5

      sam7748
      North Koreans , Russians, and Mexicans are also whites.

    • @sam7748
      @sam7748 Před 7 lety +1

      nope...and bye

  • @jaskaransinghrathor4378
    @jaskaransinghrathor4378 Před 5 lety +3

    I love Salman view point I need same old india

  • @user-cz7sb1ow5d
    @user-cz7sb1ow5d Před 2 lety +6

    What an utter shame Arundhati Roy has nothing positive to say about India after 50 years of independence! Surely we have progressed , surely there is something positive to celebrate & while she complains, she lives very comfortably in her mansion in Kerala, not directly affected by many of the problems that she laments about! Shame on you Arundhati Roy!

  • @vijabhinav
    @vijabhinav Před 5 lety +18

    @25:00 Arundhati summed up india's problem so well, 20 years back then.

  • @arunavadasgupta2147
    @arunavadasgupta2147 Před rokem

    God
    Blessing
    All
    Of
    You

  • @globalcitizenn
    @globalcitizenn Před rokem +1

    One influential American who had always been interested and inspired by India was America’s most famous citizen, Mr.Michael Jackson who put Indian representation on American TV screens in his music video Black or White in 1992. It was the first time Indians saw themselves represented in the American, and because it was MJ, GLOBAL mainstream.

  • @siddharthabhargava9041
    @siddharthabhargava9041 Před 5 lety +14

    Salman is always awesome. Keen analyser and the finest one to portray his perception in writing. 🕉️🙏🕉️

    • @nad1ax2
      @nad1ax2 Před 2 lety

      And the om emojis were somehow imperative to your comment?

    • @dynamitebsb4520
      @dynamitebsb4520 Před rokem +1

      @@nad1ax2 he is giving his salutations to him

  • @SD-fn2oe
    @SD-fn2oe Před rokem +4

    Arundhati keeps talking about the "cracks" in India and says that there isn't a single Indian who doesn't belong to some minority but then she ignores the enormous reality of patriotic fervour that runs across the sacred land of India, maybe Arundhati herself doesn't feel it, but the rest of the country does, whether she likes it or not

    • @satyp99
      @satyp99 Před rokem

      Agreed!

    • @hindurashtra63
      @hindurashtra63 Před rokem

      This lady called Chinese funded "Militants" (Naxals) as "Gandhians with Guns". The People she referred to did not hesitate to skin people alive and torture them in brutal fashion.

  • @lsobrien
    @lsobrien Před 7 lety +1

    Great.

  • @progyandas9650
    @progyandas9650 Před 4 lety +16

    We need interviewers like this man today ... what a great host !
    And the same exact problems exist today
    Interesting timelines !

  • @chakreshsingh
    @chakreshsingh Před 7 lety +21

    OMG Salam thinks his English, in any way, resonates with the music of thoughts of an Indian.. How many of you picked up to read the Enchantress of Florence and had to throw it away because its essentially a GRE preparation guide rather than a novel about the Mughal age..

  • @PhnomPenhProductions
    @PhnomPenhProductions Před 2 lety +6

    26:56 absolute truth. Nothing else, Just it!!

    • @sagarchakraborty2928
      @sagarchakraborty2928 Před 2 lety

      Pretty genuine & accurate perception towards India's distinct character. 👌

  • @khazirairforcekhazirtwobit2531

    It is a ascertain thing. It is best described by so much thing.

  • @rohansawant6317
    @rohansawant6317 Před rokem

    25 years down the time India is at the center of the World politics and everybody is looking forward to India

  • @Vsl2015
    @Vsl2015 Před 7 lety +47

    Salman was more greatful of India greatness

    • @umakantnadkar5057
      @umakantnadkar5057 Před 5 lety +6

      Arundhati as usual too desperate to establish her reputation of an Indian liberal and intellectual!

    • @anujverma5036
      @anujverma5036 Před 4 lety +6

      @@mohitpr5297 because of Indian jehadis feel fucked when they see salman

    • @71espn
      @71espn Před 4 lety +2

      He doesn't live here

    • @KilgoreTrout-vo7uy
      @KilgoreTrout-vo7uy Před 4 lety +1

      @@mohitpr5297 have you forgotten the barrage of fatwas issued against him in India?

    • @deepakb3005
      @deepakb3005 Před 3 lety +4

      @@mohitpr5297 yeah that shows peacefullness of muslims but arundhati roy is still living in india and spreading venomous hatred about hinduism and indians

  • @atgwiuz
    @atgwiuz Před rokem +6

    8:00 he's talking about Akhand Bharat 🚩

    • @nikhildeshmukh6221
      @nikhildeshmukh6221 Před rokem

      Problem is akhand bharat can be achieved only through love..........nothing except love......and nowadays people demanding akhand bharat are mostly hateful hindu nationalists..... they're as confused today as they were during partition with they want land but no muslims.....or to change them....again to change , you need love

  • @Nick-O-Maniac
    @Nick-O-Maniac Před rokem +27

    Watching this as India celebrates its 75th year of Independence and thing that deeply saddens is about the politics of hate remain the same more or little as exhibited in the video

  • @nmo3148
    @nmo3148 Před měsícem

    8.15 on. Akhand Bharat as dreamed of by Rushdie!

  • @acharya8959
    @acharya8959 Před 2 lety +22

    Don't compare the both. Salman Rushdie is on a different league altogether. And he's TRULY unbiased. And I love his work. And Roy is nowhere in the scale where Rushdie fits.

    • @nad1ax2
      @nad1ax2 Před 2 lety +9

      Just tell me you have disdain for left activism. Having read both their works, Arundhati is arguably a better writer even though I’m not into her political disposition myself

    • @itr8247
      @itr8247 Před rokem

      @@nad1ax2 left activism that denies bangladesh genocide??

    • @Gangakinartheke
      @Gangakinartheke Před rokem +6

      Of course arundhuti is just your regular leftist woke but with brain, always with traditional catchy talking points with no depth.
      On the other hand, salman i think has restrained himself from going deep on issues as he finds it useless in talk shows like this.

    • @Gangakinartheke
      @Gangakinartheke Před rokem +6

      @@nad1ax2 lol salman is more critically aclaimed, awarded the best of the all the booker prize winners from 1961-2007, which includes arundhuti.
      Only people who can't understand magical realism will say this.

    • @Pratip.
      @Pratip. Před rokem +3

      Salman is a better writer than her.
      Saying anything else is just plain bs.

  • @diplodocus3
    @diplodocus3 Před 7 lety +14

    Watching this in 2017 i.e 20 years later, it seems that the conditions then and now don't complement much. The only thing different & 'empowering' today is the Internet, which too seems to be misused rampantly. Why is mankind so stubborn?

    • @canbot1
      @canbot1 Před 6 lety

      The world as whole has gotten better in many ways and that includes the subcontinent

    • @pulmodoc8950
      @pulmodoc8950 Před 6 lety +3

      Can Bot dying rivers, stagnant air, explosive population waiting to take over china, rising unemployment..... U see a better side???

    • @canbot1
      @canbot1 Před 6 lety

      I agree with you on that the water in all the rivers will be replaced with sewage and they will all be stinky and foamy like Yamuna is today. People are good at making more people and the South Asia already has a much bigger population than east Asia which includes the people's republic of China. Unemployment will get much worse as automation increases did you see that add for ford's new assembly line it was mostly footage of robotic arms welding shit and eventually there will be no jobs for people driving those cars. Still as a whole the world has gotten better we can communicate in a more efficient way with the largest, ever expanding international network AKA the internet. Phones have gotten so much better people are much more capable of entertaining themselves because there are so many more movies and they look much better. We can communicate about the rivers that were and the tiny island nations drowning because of the rising sea levels of the polluted and warmer oceans. We are ruining the world but we are more aware of all the ways to hinder our progress in the wrong direction. Our ancestors are responsible for the world the way it is today but we have the resources to reroute our courses. The average life expectancy has increased, infant mortality rates have decreased and contraception is much more readily available and it is encouraged instead of being frowned upon. I know the first two won't help us with the population but we would still count it as a plus.

  • @vikaspandey7053
    @vikaspandey7053 Před rokem +1

    it feels good to listen to these talks.
    I loved arundathati roy voice and the way she speaks.
    Will watch some of their work, will benefit mental strength.

  • @mehrajdin3632
    @mehrajdin3632 Před rokem +2

    She is a gem 💎.... And ofcourse my favorite indian author 💯...
    Love and respect from kashmir 💕💖

  • @yaboivybez
    @yaboivybez Před 7 lety +41

    she was and still is such a beautiful woman

  • @rishabhsengupta2296
    @rishabhsengupta2296 Před 4 lety +23

    Seeing this just makes me sad in 2019.

  • @Raoim
    @Raoim Před rokem +2

    If you listen to Salman sir he seem he knew what he is talking and if listen arundhati she seem hippie with awesome vocabulary who has all privileged.

  • @jayampathythissera6201

    I admire you both

  • @sophienoor1959
    @sophienoor1959 Před 6 lety +15

    What a brave, intelligent and truthful woman. A real force of nature.

  • @pshivali
    @pshivali Před rokem +24

    This feels very sad that for some illiterate goons we dumped our beloved son.Get well soon sir.India and Indians love you and are very proud of you

  • @darshnikdeep4650
    @darshnikdeep4650 Před rokem

    Thanks for uploading such a piece of marvellous discussion.

  • @samt1705
    @samt1705 Před 4 měsíci

    18:30 "There is a language crisis in India... There are a lot of Indians who can't speak any language properly". 👍 True!

  • @rudhisundar
    @rudhisundar Před 6 lety +17

    She (Arundhati) is agonisingly beautiful, although her views are so pessimistic about the idea of India.

  • @srijitabanerjee3626
    @srijitabanerjee3626 Před 2 lety +5

    This is the time when the color of magic realism and the political reality get mingled up.....

  • @casiandsouza7031
    @casiandsouza7031 Před 5 lety

    English is my first language and Konkanim is my. Mother tongue. I express intellect in English. I bong with my family that is fluent in English using Konkanim. Urdu and Hindustani are dialects of the same language that has been most promoted by Bollywood.

  • @ishankanwar8411
    @ishankanwar8411 Před rokem

    Well, I think debate always misses nuances. This one too. They give the reasons for tension between communities. But they can't give the reason that is great and different about India.
    But interesting talk 25 years ago.
    People now can tackle their point of views.

  • @tarunkadian2
    @tarunkadian2 Před rokem +11

    Love how fearless Mr. Rushdie is 👏

    • @ambhat3953
      @ambhat3953 Před rokem

      thats why he ran away and got asylum...cool

    • @thelibarandu3920
      @thelibarandu3920 Před rokem +1

      @@ambhat3953 he was smart that's why.

    • @ambhat3953
      @ambhat3953 Před rokem

      @@thelibarandu3920 the reference is with being fearless....and ofcourse all crooked ppl are smart. I know that

    • @thelibarandu3920
      @thelibarandu3920 Před rokem

      @@ambhat3953 Yes that even Applies to your prophet.

    • @ambhat3953
      @ambhat3953 Před rokem

      @@thelibarandu3920 donno which prophet you talking.... prophets are only for desert cult people like the one salman Rushdie and a. roy is born in

  • @alankarjoey258
    @alankarjoey258 Před 6 lety +18

    valour of arundhati is unforgettable

  • @lisnamoljoseph4681
    @lisnamoljoseph4681 Před rokem

    Watching it on 1st Sep 2022

  • @vigilwilfred2614
    @vigilwilfred2614 Před rokem +1

    A Roy is sooo right...even after 25 yrs same cards are being played n it shall till the end of time....

  • @anurag1588
    @anurag1588 Před 3 lety +3

    Roy must have been seething inside listening to Salman.

  • @Destrobius
    @Destrobius Před 6 lety +16

    Arundhati looked like an Indian version of Lisa Bonet at this stage of her life.

  • @ummemina246
    @ummemina246 Před 9 měsíci

    Love from Bangladesh ❤

  • @mangalgharami501
    @mangalgharami501 Před rokem +1

    Arundhati is so beautiful ❤️

  • @udbhavseth799
    @udbhavseth799 Před 2 lety +15

    "How would you explain the high quality fiction in the English language coming from India?"
    Rose doesn't even attempt to hide his tired prejudices. Shoddy interviewer who neither lets his guests complete a sentence, nor goes a centimeter beyond the 'teeming/diversity/poverty/culture/religion' keywords that closet most such western journalists when talking about India.

    • @udbhavseth799
      @udbhavseth799 Před 2 lety +3

      Add to the list "there is mystery to India" and "a Rajasthani woman can be working by the road and wear jewellery with such grace, and maybe that sounds patronising... " (it does) what two white reporters say when they can't wait to answer their own stereotypically loaded questions.

    • @kushal4956
      @kushal4956 Před 2 lety +5

      @@udbhavseth799 oh shut up, it doesn't sound patronising at all. I would feel the same as her if I saw a Japanese woman working by the road wearing a kimono with grace. she didn't sound rude, she was just sharing her observations

    • @udbhavseth799
      @udbhavseth799 Před 8 měsíci

      @@kushal4956 define "with grace"?

  • @zeitgeist.84
    @zeitgeist.84 Před rokem +16

    Watching this 25 years on with some of the criticism and challenges Arundhathy Roy and others mentioned there was optimism in the air...... ARR's Vande Matram was there in every school kids heart and authors and intellectuals could still write and speak without fear. Compare that to today after the 75th anniversary and the attack on Salman Rushdie, there is very little to cheer about Vande Matram is shouted without any affection and all the authors and critics have all gone silent. We have marginally better prosperity with substantially less freedoms.

    • @zeitgeist.84
      @zeitgeist.84 Před rokem

      @abc def the prime reason why we are in this hole and there isn't any semblance of any effective opposition in sight

    • @MehtaKyaKehta
      @MehtaKyaKehta Před rokem

      ARR's Vande Mataram is among his least interesting songs. I suppose people liked it only because it's about the motherland.

  • @infectedmushroom3488
    @infectedmushroom3488 Před 4 lety +2

    2 decades passed and not much has changed...

  • @lizbenny7199
    @lizbenny7199 Před rokem +1

    LET ARUNDHATI SPEAK OH MY GODD

  • @ShubhamBhushanCC
    @ShubhamBhushanCC Před 7 lety +43

    Shame that a great jewel like Rushdie is not able to live in his own country or even his book Satanic Verses is still banned in our country

    • @solivagantsat
      @solivagantsat Před 5 lety +4

      same happened with another gem of India MF Hussain...

    • @rohitdalal49
      @rohitdalal49 Před 5 lety

      @Sachin Shambulingappa India doesn't allow dual citizenship with that of India.

    • @vikrantsubakade9281
      @vikrantsubakade9281 Před 4 lety

      @@fasttrack2214 one has to try very hard to sound as stupid as you did. Kudos to your efforts.

    • @kushal4956
      @kushal4956 Před 2 lety

      @@solivagantsat this country has zero respect for freedom of speech that even slightly bothers them

    • @sorenutpal6091
      @sorenutpal6091 Před rokem

      Now he is stabbed

  • @GeorgiaIsOnMyMind
    @GeorgiaIsOnMyMind Před 6 lety +5

    I love Arundhati Roy!!!

  • @Vikram777ish
    @Vikram777ish Před 3 lety +1

    Arundhati Roy 😍😍❣❣