The Future of Dragon Ball Super

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  • čas přidán 25. 08. 2023
  • What are the stories left for Dragon Ball Super to tell?
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    As we wait for a new Dragon Ball anime and while the Dragon Ball Super manga is recapping the events of Dragon Ball Super Superhero, a lot of people are wondering what the future for the series will be? Well some future arcs have already been hinted at.
    The most obvious one is a Black Frieza arc. This could have True Ultra Instinct Goku, Ultra Ego Vegeta, Super Saiyan Full Power Broly, Orange Piccolo, Beast Gohan and Beerus vs Black Frieza. That's not all the future holds!
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  • @CarthusDojo
    @CarthusDojo  Před 9 měsíci +646

    What do YOU want to see in a future Dragon Ball Super arc?

    • @Snailel37
      @Snailel37 Před 9 měsíci +69

      Beerus vs Black Frieza

    • @zeagle3769
      @zeagle3769 Před 9 měsíci +38

      i really want to see uub more in super, he has a lot of potential

    • @Jonah16835
      @Jonah16835 Před 9 měsíci +46

      I just wanna see vegeta get a w

    • @kirbyof590stars
      @kirbyof590stars Před 9 měsíci +18

      Black Frieza Vs. Vegeta. Possibly a new form for him.

    • @afroEazy
      @afroEazy Před 9 měsíci +13

      Cooler

  • @imjustdaclanka
    @imjustdaclanka Před 9 měsíci +675

    This is probably the only window for them to introduce Cooler into Canon and they better not miss

    • @jmantime
      @jmantime Před 9 měsíci +33

      I want frieza’s son Kuriza from the budokai games to be canon 😊

    • @imjustdaclanka
      @imjustdaclanka Před 9 měsíci +31

      @@jmantime I’ve got an idea, how about….BOTH 🤯

    • @iloveiceberglettuce
      @iloveiceberglettuce Před 9 měsíci +11

      ​@@imjustdaclankacooler vs Frieza, who's the better dad for kuriza?

    • @binchilling5768
      @binchilling5768 Před 9 měsíci +22

      I want them to introduce Janemba as the evil of the series the one who manipulates people to do bad things like lucifer

    • @DarthMolgy
      @DarthMolgy Před 9 měsíci +9

      A good way to do canon Cooler would be making him weaker than Frieza, but way smarter and more calculated.

  • @Lynchy626
    @Lynchy626 Před 9 měsíci +477

    I genuinely think Vegeta getting the W could be fitting in the narrative. At this point, Vegeta’s motivations have gone far past revenge, and him deciding to eliminate Freeza not out of petty pride, but purely because of the threat Freeza poses to his loved ones would be a perfect end to his arc. Unfortunately, Vegeta will never get the W so long as Toriyama has anything to say about it

    • @gammafrost
      @gammafrost Před 9 měsíci +18

      We can only hope Toriyama allows Vegeta to finally give Frieza’s final end.

    • @gustavopereira4924
      @gustavopereira4924 Před 9 měsíci +60

      Toriyama reading this :
      This is so... so ... so beautiful *sheds tear* I can even see it...
      *Proceeds to draw Vegeta with his thumb pointing to himself one more time*

    • @dickbicycle9304
      @dickbicycle9304 Před 8 měsíci

      You people forget that the manga and show isn’t produced just for fun. It’s produced to make money, and Goku is where the money is.

    • @Lynchy626
      @Lynchy626 Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@dickbicycle9304 Nope. The movies and arcs that feature Goku the least tend to be the most profitable

    • @dickbicycle9304
      @dickbicycle9304 Před 8 měsíci

      @@Lynchy626 Lmao Super Hero literally did awful in the box office compared to the other movies. I have statistics to back up what I’m saying. You’re literally talking out of your ass.

  • @Dvir226
    @Dvir226 Před 9 měsíci +247

    I think that black Frieza is so strong that we need to wait a few arcs for him to show just how strong he really is.

    • @kaizablue0412
      @kaizablue0412 Před 9 měsíci +60

      And then frieza be like "this isn't even my final form" transform into diamond or platinum form

    • @gammafrost
      @gammafrost Před 9 měsíci +22

      @@kaizablue0412holy shit that would be insane. I wouldn’t be surprised. There’s no way he trained for 10 years only to get one new form. He trained to the point of potentially beating Gogeta.

    • @xuvial1391
      @xuvial1391 Před 8 měsíci +32

      @@gammafrost Yeah Frieza should get 10 more forms, and each new form makes him slightly smaller so by the end he's the size of Chiaotzu. That would be SO COOL

    • @dylanking1335
      @dylanking1335 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Dragon ball daima

    • @benmartinez5666
      @benmartinez5666 Před 7 měsíci +7

      @@dylanking1335toriyama's like writing arcs between the arcs...lol idk why he ruining his own franchise by creating daima and this super hero shit

  • @mbphilipblack8993
    @mbphilipblack8993 Před 9 měsíci +101

    I just want to see the Granola and Morro Arcs being adapted 😭😭😭. Black Frieza will likely be the focus with Broly being the one built up after Goku and Vegeta were One Shotted, ultimately he'll loose pushing the fight in Gohan or Beerus direction.
    A 2nd TOP with the universe's with the higher mortal levels and A God's verse mortals tournament would be insane!!!

    • @alejandrocastaneda6958
      @alejandrocastaneda6958 Před 9 měsíci +5

      God's vs mortals sounds sickkkk

    • @lagsalot9357
      @lagsalot9357 Před 3 měsíci +1

      hate to say, depending on how long daima is, we may not be getting a sequel to super until like 2026+

  • @hhfggvogtthehy6451
    @hhfggvogtthehy6451 Před 9 měsíci +1457

    It should be illegal to miss this man’s videos.

    • @CharISHIM
      @CharISHIM Před 9 měsíci +48

      If that were true, I’d be a terrorist. Because I never check my notifications 😭😭

    • @A_Goober.
      @A_Goober. Před 9 měsíci +20

      *Guess i shouldve been getting Life sentences.*

    • @invincible4u
      @invincible4u Před 9 měsíci +3

      @@CharISHIM😂😂

    • @LavaCreeperPeople
      @LavaCreeperPeople Před 9 měsíci +6

      my internet was out so i missed this video's notification

    • @0l1i
      @0l1i Před 9 měsíci +1

      So true

  • @KaiserMattTygore927
    @KaiserMattTygore927 Před 9 měsíci +90

    A good way to end Frieza for good, would be for Gohan and Vegeta to be the last men standing against him, doing some kind of team up combo move to finish off Frieza, it pays off BOTH of their characters, would be a cheeky cell saga reference that toei seems to love so much and would be good character development for Vegeta to let go of his personal revenge and team up with someone to two v one an opponent who's a threat and forgo any personal satisfaction he might gain from a 1v1 W.

    • @ultimis3658
      @ultimis3658 Před 9 měsíci

      hell yeah

    • @nomercyinc6783
      @nomercyinc6783 Před 9 měsíci +1

      beast gohan doesnt need to team up with vegeta

    • @SOLDAT_MENDES
      @SOLDAT_MENDES Před 9 měsíci +9

      that would be a cool way to end Frieza's story, Gohan and Vegeta teaming up for a combo move would showcase their growth and provide a satisfying conclusion. Plus, it would be a nod to the Cell Saga and show Vegeta's character development.

    • @dickbicycle9304
      @dickbicycle9304 Před 8 měsíci

      It doesn’t involve Goku so it’s not happening. The idea is to make money.

    • @User_Call_Me_Chaudary
      @User_Call_Me_Chaudary Před 4 měsíci +1

      BEAST GOHAN VS BLACK FRIEZA
      THIS SHOWDOWN I AM WAITING
      PERSONAL RIVALS SINCE NAMAK SAGA
      FACE TO FACE
      GOHANS TOURNAMENT OF POWER THREAT
      FRIEZA WANTS TO BECOME NO DOUBTABLE STRONGEST MORTAL IN MULTIVERSE
      ENDING MUST BE VEGETE ERASE HIM FOREVER

  • @aidanshowers8366
    @aidanshowers8366 Před 9 měsíci +32

    Speaking of future trunks, I don’t think I’m alone when I say a spin off focusing around trunks in a new timeline would be very interesting. Heck you could even change the ending in super to where he goes to a different timeline to save that version of the future Z fighters from the androids.

    • @Ripdooder221
      @Ripdooder221 Před 8 měsíci +1

      time patrol trunks series 😭

    • @IWENTTOCOLLEGE
      @IWENTTOCOLLEGE Před měsícem

      Speaking of spinoffs, I've got two other ideas:
      1. A Ginyu Force spinoff: this, I feel, would be hella fun to watch; have it be the Ginyus being Ginyus, conquering planets and engaging in shenanigans. Maybe it could even explore their origins and Guldo's beef with Vegeta?
      2. An Origins of the Turtle School series: Have it include a young Master Roshi training with Master Mutaito. It could include characters like Ox King, Grandpa Gohan, Master Shen, etc. Maybe even Young Kami and King Piccolo?

  • @YTHomer
    @YTHomer Před 9 měsíci +450

    I really hope DBS keeps up the fact that it is branching out to include other characters more in the main narrative. DBS has been the Goku and Vegeta do everything show for too damn long, hopefully they show more love to the Earthlings while keeping other important characters like Uub, Granolah, and Broly important as well. It would be amazing to see all of them pull through to stop the threat of Black Frieza.

    • @GOOFYAHH597
      @GOOFYAHH597 Před 9 měsíci +16

      I guess so , but at this point it's too late to make the humans useful . It's been so long since we've seen any of them be useful

    • @YTHomer
      @YTHomer Před 9 měsíci +10

      @@GOOFYAHH597 It's never too late.

    • @ethioanime2023
      @ethioanime2023 Před 9 měsíci +18

      @@YTHomer it's too late my dude even giving a buff for the humans to be at base goku's lvl would be so illogical cause that would mean that they can destroy the whole dbz with a ki blast
      +
      I personally don't wouldn't enjoy an arc given to other characters like the goten and trunks thing
      A chapter or two won't harm but making goku and vegeta go to the sidelines for an entire arc is not good in my opinion
      +
      Isn't it already enough it's been more than a year since the goku vegeta show ended

    • @aetherialbeing4223
      @aetherialbeing4223 Před 9 měsíci +12

      Tbf to Super that was an issue in Z and GT as well, even og DB had Goku saving the day for most of its arcs

    • @elevated6941
      @elevated6941 Před 9 měsíci +8

      ​@@aetherialbeing4223 not really, in z he was either dead, having a heart attack or just simply unavailable. In z we had more screentime with characters like Gohan and Vegeta than we did with Goku.

  • @davisbowe8668
    @davisbowe8668 Před 9 měsíci +189

    I know it won't happen, but I'd love to see the earthlings get powerups similar to Gohan and Piccolo in Super Hero. Remember that Tien, Yamcha, and Chiaotzu never got their potential unlocked by Super Kami Guru so it would be cool if they made a wish to Shenron similar to how Piccolo did in the movie. They could do a mini-arc where Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, and Gohan are away from Earth and Earth gets attacked so Krillin, 18, Tien, Yamcha, Chiaotzu, and maybe Roshi have to team up to defend it. Maybe Yajirobe, Chi Chi, Videl, and even Mr. Satan could help out in some way.
    Though knowing the DBS writers, they'd probably just have someone like Pan handle everything lol.

    • @rjmeeks4152
      @rjmeeks4152 Před 9 měsíci +21

      Yamcha's not defending anything...he's already in the hall of fame 😂🤣

    • @alfredosauce9163
      @alfredosauce9163 Před 9 měsíci +13

      Super kami guru approves

    • @dankerbell
      @dankerbell Před 9 měsíci +10

      chi chi doing something again is a based idea

    • @SOLDAT_MENDES
      @SOLDAT_MENDES Před 9 měsíci +9

      that would be a cool idea, giving the Earthlings power-ups and having them defend Earth while Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, and Gohan are away. It would be great to see characters like Krillin, 18, Tien, Yamcha, Chiaotzu, Roshi, Yajirobe, Chi Chi, Videl, and Mr. Satan stepping up to protect their home. And hey, Pan could definitely join in on the action too.

    • @KingWolf-vy1jm
      @KingWolf-vy1jm Před 8 měsíci +9

      Those power ups are undeserved asspulls

  • @BlindRobotDragon
    @BlindRobotDragon Před 9 měsíci +46

    I wouldn't mind a canon version of Cooler, and would be fine with whatever they chose to do with his character, provided it was well-executed. Having said that, a good way to subvert expectations and capitalize on a missed opportunity from the Tournament of Destroyers would be to make him a decent member of Frieza's race, unlike Frost, who was just putting on an act, only to end up being similar to Frieza in the end. Frieza and his family have been depicted as some of the worst tyrants in the history of Universe 7, so having Cooler sort of be the black sheep of the family could make for a pretty cool dynamic... or at least I think so anyway. Cooler could possibly still be an intergalactic leader of some sort, but maybe he acquired his political power through more benevolent and democratic means, and it could be explained that Cooler just wanted to keep to himself and stay out of the affairs of the larger universe, opting instead to just maintain his corner of it, but kept tabs on his brother's growing power and empire, and once they began to look like a serious threat to all he'd built up, he could provide assistance to those whom he knew had been a thorn in Frieza's side in the past. It could give us a chance to learn some history and backstory for their race in general and their family specifically, and considering the bad blood that would exist between the brothers if one was good and the other was evil, a showdown between them where they duke it out with all their might could be fun, especially if Cooler also has potential just like his more malevolent sibling. That's my take anyway... I'm sure others have their own spin on how they'd like to see Cooler's character used. Like I said, I'd be fine with whatever happened, provided it was done well.

  • @savaget2058
    @savaget2058 Před 9 měsíci +18

    Been waiting for some videos like this, it's definitely time to start speculating what the future for the franchise is.
    There's a plot hole when it comes to Beerus and Whis when searching for the Super Saiyan God. Whis searches for Saiyans in the universe and actually calls out all of them, including the half Saiyans. But he makes no mention of Broly and his father as well as Vegeta's brother Tarble.

    • @richborn6700
      @richborn6700 Před 9 měsíci +1

      It's like the last 10 years of content has made a big mess they can't clean up. Who knew?

  • @glasgowblackchigowski6117
    @glasgowblackchigowski6117 Před 9 měsíci +56

    Always a pleasure to watch Carthu's videos, you're incredibly entertaining man, keep it up

  • @selfloathinggivesmelife7810
    @selfloathinggivesmelife7810 Před 9 měsíci +93

    What I want to see the most is an arc revolving around the true origin of the Namekians.
    This could be another Piccolo-centric adventure that could potentially crate a connection between him and the Dragon God Zalama.

    • @jantheking7028
      @jantheking7028 Před 9 měsíci +7

      With the Granolah arc revealing that U7 and U6 are from an entirely different realm, and with DBS continuing to hammer down the point that many wishes are being made at once, it seems like the story is leading to either an arc where the original namekians make their return, or an arc where the dragon balls get corrupted/Zalama comes back to take them away from every planet.

    • @JoshuaTerence38
      @JoshuaTerence38 Před 9 měsíci +2

      i want that tool.... i also want to know why namekians knew about super saiyan god.. cause it sounds like saiyans and namekians have some kind of connection in the past

    • @richborn6700
      @richborn6700 Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@JoshuaTerence38Super creating the "Namekian book of legends" that mentions both Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan God was just lazy writing

    • @SOLDAT_MENDES
      @SOLDAT_MENDES Před 9 měsíci

      that would be an awesome arc, exploring the true origin of the Namekians and their connection to the Dragon God Zalama. A Piccolo-centric adventure delving into their history would be really intriguing.

    • @Blade1515
      @Blade1515 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Universes 13-18(this could be really interesting meeting the new gods and new threats along with it possibly), Dragon Balls/Namekians(A modern reference to maybe Demon King piccolo with a evil Namekian maybe and the show is called dragon ball after all, it would be fitting to help it end.), and Black Frieza(The original Final Boss of dragon ball could help a lot to end the series, and he isn’t gonna get another form, there’s a hint from the colors of his forms, White, to Gold, to Black. I’ll let you figure it out yourself)

  • @wwCs49
    @wwCs49 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Just commenting to say you are awesome. Only found your channel a few weeks ago but this is the DB lore/theory/retrospective channel I’ve always been looking for

  • @ratiounkn3210
    @ratiounkn3210 Před 8 měsíci

    Only recently found your channel, I can’t wait to get caught up. Your content is incredible.

  • @Trap5656
    @Trap5656 Před 9 měsíci +49

    My guess this Black Frieza Arc will be saved for as a final arc before End of Z comes into play. Goku & Vegeta visiting the U6 Saiyans as the next arc would make sense, maybe the reason why they are visiting is to find out why they are so much stronger than U7 Sayians and maybe that information can help improve themselves against Black Frieza. 🤔 One thing I like to see is Piccolo & Gohan going on a training arc to learn more about the Orange & Beast Forms, maybe from the Supreme Kais. 🤔

    • @NanobanaKinako
      @NanobanaKinako Před 9 měsíci +5

      I wish the anime gets a GT ending. Telling them that Goku's time is over and they have to rely at their strength to survive. But of course, Black Star Dragon Ball needs to be included as the final saga. This saga will tell us overusing dragon balls to make things easier is abuse.

    • @RicardoMartinez-mw2so
      @RicardoMartinez-mw2so Před 9 měsíci

      i think the end of z will come first, and then dbs will continue beyond that. black frieza arc will take place after the end of z for sure

    • @gammafrost
      @gammafrost Před 9 měsíci

      If piccolo and gohan continue their training, I hope they do develop god ki because black Frieza is a far greater threat now.

  • @CoolDanishBagel
    @CoolDanishBagel Před 9 měsíci +51

    nobody does it like him! if you haven't subscribed to this guy what are you doing?

  • @OathkeeperBry
    @OathkeeperBry Před 9 měsíci +1

    your videos are so informative, I love digesting all of this information!

  • @jonathanbenoit-mj9cv
    @jonathanbenoit-mj9cv Před 9 měsíci

    Your vids are really fun ive been here since you started and your vids are getting better

  • @PizzaPastaLuingini
    @PizzaPastaLuingini Před 9 měsíci +27

    If there is a black freiza arc i hope we get to see cooler

  • @dzrascal7293
    @dzrascal7293 Před 3 měsíci +6

    RIP Toriyama-san

  • @deathsshadow7656
    @deathsshadow7656 Před 9 měsíci +2

    #1 Dragon Ball channel bro. Awesome content, I could watch all day

  • @ihadawerewolfneighbor0337
    @ihadawerewolfneighbor0337 Před 9 měsíci +6

    I kinda wanna see Vegeta beat Frieza, but either doesn’t relish the killing because that’s not what it’s about anymore, or doesn’t even kill him after beating him and maybe hands him off to Beerus or something and refrains from getting his revenge to show that he only desired to win/stop Frieza and it’s no longer about revenge because he’s grown beyond that.

  • @alfalldoot6715
    @alfalldoot6715 Před 9 měsíci +215

    With Goku and Vegeta reaching a sort of "end' to their character arcs in the Granolah saga I hope this means the show will be focusing on Gohan, Goten, Trunks, and the other guys more.

    • @saadaden7769
      @saadaden7769 Před 9 měsíci +50

      You clearly haven't read the Manga whis said to Goku that your end goal is not the ability to wield ultra instinct he said that's only the start (which indicates Goku is yet to grasp ultra instinct) and Vegeta only tapped into ultra ego in the end of granola arc and we have yet to dive deep also the beast form and orange piccolo I don't think they actually reached their pinnacle yet it's just about to get better.
      All of their forms are so powerful and yet the main villain appears to be far stronger than them (black Frieza).

    • @ZACKARDO
      @ZACKARDO Před 9 měsíci +20

      As the other guy who responded said, bruh a mastered ultra ego vegeta is a game changer, goku and vegeta are still and will be the main characters of dragon ball in the future.

    • @geokashi357
      @geokashi357 Před 9 měsíci +20

      @@ZACKARDO idk why these guys are obsessed with other characters getting the spotlight i mean i love gohan as well but without goku the series doesn't work

    • @2guys1cliplol
      @2guys1cliplol Před 9 měsíci

      Maybe Garlic Jr can come back with insane power and fight the other Z fighters. That would be interesting

    • @Eminster
      @Eminster Před 9 měsíci +7

      ​@@geokashi357I think it should be obvious: so we can have more diversity. Why not?

  • @bluedude3517
    @bluedude3517 Před 9 měsíci +2

    I love the thumbnail art! The video was/will be great, I can tell! The future of Dragon Ball will be pretty interesting.

  • @scanchannel3259
    @scanchannel3259 Před 9 měsíci

    4:05 this is a honestly good idea! Your videos are amazing.

  • @Grim-death
    @Grim-death Před 7 měsíci +5

    Being honest I want to see arc where frezia is gone for good

  • @drcjtonkin
    @drcjtonkin Před 9 měsíci +6

    All I wanna see if ssj4 become cannon

  • @keybladegames_real
    @keybladegames_real Před 9 měsíci +20

    Beerus vs frieza feels most likely given their history. He wants to showcase his new power and is sick of being pushed around by Beerus he challenges him to a fight to assert his authority with his new power

  • @onecoolboy98
    @onecoolboy98 Před 9 měsíci +26

    I am legitimetly hyped for this new era of DB. All of the unique forms and where the narative seems to be leading has me on the edge of my seat.
    My biggest hope for the series moving forward is a resurgence in the Human characters. I’d love to see Krillin and the others stand toe to toe with Goku and the others.
    I mean, Krillin is the only ine left from the Namek Squad to need a power up. (He was teased to help take down Freeza after the T.O.P.)
    (To see Krillin and Goku fight side by side, shoulder to shoulder against a big bad, similar to Goku and Freeza vs Jiren, is my biggest dream as a Dragon Ball Fan.)

    • @philadams9254
      @philadams9254 Před 9 měsíci +9

      But having Krillin/Tien/Yamcha lower down keeps things in perspective: normal humans have limits. It makes it clear how strong the other guys are

    • @onecoolboy98
      @onecoolboy98 Před 9 měsíci +4

      Yes and No... See, to me, when I see Super, anyone who isn’t Goku or Vegeta (and later Freeza, and 17) it feels like they’re just paper trying to fight fire.
      Or rather, every warrior who isn’t Goku/Vegeta feels as strong as a normal non-ki using Earthling. (Even Piccolo and Gohan)
      Now, I see the cast and the shine that Piccolo,Gohan, Pan, heck even Goten and Trunks, and they don’t feel like their meaningless.
      I want that for the Humans. They’ve been overlooked for years. The Krillin mini arc and his subsequent recruitment (and beating of Gohan and nearly Goku) was AMAZING and I feel like they can and should do more.

    • @calebgunner
      @calebgunner Před 9 měsíci +5

      ​@@onecoolboy98 Krillin being a cop could easily be used to create a mini arc for him... in fact, Jaco could recroute the likes of Tien, yamcha and Krillin for mini arcs... possibilities are endless due to DBS willingness to make mini arcs in between larger arcs. I rewatched dragon ball kai last year and it felt so nice seeing everyone playing a part in an arc.

    • @onecoolboy98
      @onecoolboy98 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@calebgunner That would be cool, however, I'm pretty sure the mini arcs were never cannon. (Even the God Teir Krillin arc).

    • @calebgunner
      @calebgunner Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@onecoolboy98 You're right... The mini arcs in the anime aren't cannon... I was just refering to the mini arc that we've just had with Trunks and Gotenks.... I feel like that arc was hindered by the fact that it's a prelude to the super hero arc....
      And when I mentioned how everyone played a part, I was refering to the Saiyan, namek and buu arc....

  • @Tarn69967
    @Tarn69967 Před 21 dnem +2

    I personally think they should bring more of the non-canon characters like Cooler, Android 13, Baby and Janemba into the canon universe just like what they did with Broly

  • @lykan801
    @lykan801 Před 9 měsíci +84

    It'll be the perfect time to make Cooler canon to the story, would love to see how he could compliment and contrast with Frieza. Would love to see the human fighters and trunks and goten shine as well.
    Also another curve ball suggestion I might add bringing back wasted character that had potential like King Cold or Raditz, maybe for King Cold he could be revived by Frieza or Cooler or even someone else, same goes with Raditz.
    IMO I really would love if they take some concepts from Kakumei, like - previously mentioned in the video - vegeta and the others visiting Universe 6 Sadala and such, into canon. Would be great to see some of these moments in the manga.

    • @juura78
      @juura78 Před 9 měsíci

      even a fight between cooler and frieza

    • @DarthMolgy
      @DarthMolgy Před 9 měsíci +10

      I could see Cooler having the brains and charisma to counter Frieza's brawn and brutality. Like, say he decides to revive Cold and turn him against Frieza (which shouldn't be very hard after Frieza neglected to revive him). He lands on Namek, and instead of starting to kill or enslave the Namekians he just goes up to Mori and says "Look, we both know your planet has been attacked twice for the Dragon Balls, and both times it ended very badly for you. So how about you just let me have my wishes, and then me and my men will leave you and the planet unharmed. Deal?" And Mori just can't argue with that.

    • @dankerbell
      @dankerbell Před 9 měsíci +4

      ​@@robertothesupermutant830yes, he looks cool and is goku's brother, that's all you need, of all "villains to heroes" we get in db, he'd make a ton of sense

    • @SOLDAT_MENDES
      @SOLDAT_MENDES Před 9 měsíci

      cool ideas, Cooler being introduced to the story and exploring his dynamic with Frieza would be interesting. Bringing back characters like King Cold or Raditz could add some unexpected twists to the plot. And incorporating concepts from Kakumei, like the visit to Universe 6 Sadala, would definitely be exciting to see in the manga.

  • @perfectcell77
    @perfectcell77 Před 9 měsíci +5

    Beast VS Frieza would go hard. Gohan would get revenge for Piccolo, RoF, and everything else.

    • @User_Call_Me_Chaudary
      @User_Call_Me_Chaudary Před 4 měsíci +1

      BEAST GOHAN VS BLACK FRIEZA
      THIS SHOWDOWN I AM WAITING
      PERSONAL RIVALS SINCE NAMAK SAGA
      FACE TO FACE
      GOHANS TOURNAMENT OF POWER THREAT
      FRIEZA WANTS TO BECOME NO DOUBTABLE STRONGEST MORTAL IN MULTIVERSE
      ENDING MUST BE VEGETE ERASE HIM FOREVER

    • @User_Call_Me_Chaudary
      @User_Call_Me_Chaudary Před 4 měsíci +1

      BEAST GOHAN VS BLACK FRIEZA
      THIS SHOWDOWN I AM WAITING
      PERSONAL RIVALS SINCE NAMAK SAGA
      FACE TO FACE
      GOHANS TOURNAMENT OF POWER THREAT
      FRIEZA WANTS TO BECOME NO DOUBTABLE STRONGEST MORTAL IN MULTIVERSE
      ENDING MUST BE VEGETE ERASE HIM FOREVER

  • @DRGN-TYPE
    @DRGN-TYPE Před 9 měsíci

    Great vid. I think the timeline issue can be amended fairly smoothly. Bulma exaggerates, and they could have Vegeta with inner monologue stating its only been 2yrs.

  • @TheGoldenEmperorDB
    @TheGoldenEmperorDB Před 9 měsíci

    Gotta love a Carthu video! GOATed as always!

  • @RashadDecosta
    @RashadDecosta Před 9 měsíci +3

    It should be a riot if Vegeta don’t get the W against Frieza. So over the way they be playin Vegeta. The Prince of all Saiyans deserves much better

  • @UnwantedGhost1
    @UnwantedGhost1 Před 9 měsíci +9

    Hope the Dragonball Super anime returns very soon. I don't care if the Galactic Patrol Prison & Granolah saga won't get adapted at this point.

    • @geokashi357
      @geokashi357 Před 9 měsíci +6

      Toei are very gei so it will probably take a long time or maybe never especially with their focus on one piss

    • @richborn6700
      @richborn6700 Před 9 měsíci +2

      So you want the show to come back with zero direction, or content to adapt because you just miss the show that much?

    • @UnwantedGhost1
      @UnwantedGhost1 Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@richborn6700 No? It's because the iconic voice actors aren't going to be around forever unfortunately. Hopefully they record many of their voices like Adam West apparently.

    • @JohnDo187
      @JohnDo187 Před 3 měsíci

      @@richborn6700i hope dragon ball super is shut down forever and the dragon ball franchise is gone. It is an evil show that promotes drugs, adultery, and violence.

  • @crazyxman6583
    @crazyxman6583 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Will you do What If’s anytime soon? Your what ifs are so gooddddd

  • @marcospagan2875
    @marcospagan2875 Před 20 dny +2

    Brody wouldn't lose if he goes into rage mode because of his multiversal power going into the fight. It took a fusion to stun him outside of times space. And as stated brolys form doesn't render his speed or power. He get stronger the speed power accuracy doesn't waver.

  • @crispgeneral3462
    @crispgeneral3462 Před 9 měsíci +18

    I would love to see Broly get the spotlight! He is just so dang cool

    • @valkoln8436
      @valkoln8436 Před 9 měsíci +3

      I’d love a take 2 of Broly just absolutely beating the crap out of frieza again

  • @cinehill28
    @cinehill28 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Thanks for covering this, as the question has been in my mind lately, when is DBS Season 2 or the next phase come along❓
    Honestly, 2024 being the Year of the 🐉 (according to Chinese Astrology) would be more appropriate 👍

  • @professorintheworks382
    @professorintheworks382 Před 9 měsíci

    i’m so mad I KEEP MISSING YOUR LIVESTREAMS AT 8PM ON TWITCH.

  • @dingleberryharry3063
    @dingleberryharry3063 Před 3 dny +2

    Plot twist, yamcha stops Frieza with ultimate wolf fang fist 👊

  • @kirbyof590stars
    @kirbyof590stars Před 9 měsíci +52

    Man, they’ve kept us waiting for 5 years. Yes, we got DBS: Broly and Super Hero and both were great films, but no anime and a big manga drought. The future I’m looking forward to and I hope it lives up to expectations.

  • @stupertim4894
    @stupertim4894 Před 9 měsíci +4

    I like to think that beerus and champa have a sister that's a G.O.D. in a universe that was erased(whatever universe that was connected to 7 and 6) its an interesting concept that I feel like would work really well considering the universes were at one point pair's of 3

  • @Obsidianskin
    @Obsidianskin Před 9 měsíci +1

    Very few perfect db videos. i've said all of these things but never had a platform like this you do amazing work. question though... do you think we will have an AFTER Z story ?

  • @KaijuForceNeo
    @KaijuForceNeo Před 9 měsíci +1

    I’m beyond stoked to see all this happen.

  • @walidhmd
    @walidhmd Před 9 měsíci +3

    Man the possiblities you just threw about the upcoming DBS 2 storyline seems a lot more rich and enjoyable to see than dbs, I hope at least one of them come true

  • @adhamwashere5320
    @adhamwashere5320 Před 9 měsíci +12

    I still think the Shadow Dragons should be the final arc mostly cuz I think its poetic to have the final bosses of the Dragon Ball franchise to be the Dragon Balls themselves. It would also have the most tension since if someone dies then they can't be bought back until all the Shadow Dragons are defeated

    • @Skullhawk13
      @Skullhawk13 Před 9 měsíci +4

      The issue is the shadow dragons make the entire series brick. If using the dragonballs is so bad why would they EVER let them be used trivially? The fact nobody questions bulma deaging herself by 5 years, Or having them as a fun prize suggests they wisely didn’t include them.

    • @adhamwashere5320
      @adhamwashere5320 Před 9 měsíci

      @Skullhawk13 maybe they just didn't know that Shadow Dragons were ever a possibility. I mean if there were was a wish dragon that you can summon pretty easily (since they have a dragon radar) and there's seemingly no downside, of course they would abuse them

    • @Skullhawk13
      @Skullhawk13 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@adhamwashere5320 there’s no way that the angels wouldn’t know and Weis or w/e is bros with them

    • @ce3zy361
      @ce3zy361 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Maybe it could just involve a corruption of them in some way. Doesn't necessarily have to follow GT's reasoning. I like this idea but i feel like this should occur after they are finished with the Gods.

    • @thebrightestknight6714
      @thebrightestknight6714 Před 7 měsíci

      The idea of the shadow dragons is good, as long as they dont end up like how they did in GT. In GT the shadow dragons were boring antagonists and their movesets and fighting styles were generic. Instead of shadow dragons, a better idea that is more original is due to people using the dragon balls for evil and selfish desires, Zalama comes back to Universe 7 and tries to kill all namekians to ensure that no new dragon balls across the universe are ever created or used. The arc could start with Zalama killing Dende, and this would give goku and the others a good motive to actually want to fight him. This is a lot better than a shadow dragon arc, and it would also increase the lore surrounding zalama and the creation of the dragon balls.

  • @masupildula
    @masupildula Před 5 měsíci +2

    The thing that makes Frieza dangerous, it's not only his power but his cunning

  • @dripkuz
    @dripkuz Před 9 měsíci +1

    I remember seeing one of Toyotoro’s illustrations of Uub training with King Chappa. Maybe they can expand on that.

  • @godukaanims7120
    @godukaanims7120 Před 9 měsíci +2

    "What if beerus woke up early"
    ( Cell saga )

  • @cyclone9716
    @cyclone9716 Před 7 měsíci +5

    Three words...... dragon ball kakumei

  • @simongorelik92
    @simongorelik92 Před 9 měsíci +2

    dude your channel is so good

  • @toning338
    @toning338 Před 9 měsíci +6

    I thought 2 ideas could be interesting for something like this. Perhaps we could see a randomised team version of the T.O.P, like 1 member from each universe being placed into a team and having to learn how to fight together without really knowing each others capabilities. It could be fun and might allow for some rematches/matches like Goku vs Vegeta or Goku vs Gohan or Vegeta vs Toppo or even have team ups like Goku, Hit, Jiren vs others. The other one could be they skip end of Z and make a new GT, maybe having some GT villains reintroduced and having people like Frieza be used in new arcs

  • @philswift8793
    @philswift8793 Před 9 měsíci +4

    Random question, does Piccolo's orange form also multiply his grilling abilities?

    • @CarthusDojo
      @CarthusDojo  Před 9 měsíci +1

      Of course. Never interrupt the grill master (thanks for the super thanks 🙏🏻)

    • @philswift8793
      @philswift8793 Před 9 měsíci

      @CarthusDojo by this logic goku also becomes a better driver when using super saiyan

  • @Userisgonee
    @Userisgonee Před 9 měsíci

    I really hope you reach 1M u deserve it

  • @adasga
    @adasga Před 9 měsíci +4

    I just want Vegeta to get his moment to shine.

    • @Wamrage76
      @Wamrage76 Před 9 měsíci +2

      He already has against Toppo.

    • @adasga
      @adasga Před 9 měsíci

      @@Wamrage76 ... please

    • @Wamrage76
      @Wamrage76 Před 9 měsíci

      @@adasga How about against Cell second form?

    • @bigchungus8226
      @bigchungus8226 Před 5 měsíci +1

      ​@@Wamrage76buddy he got clamped in that same fight by his perfect form literally wdym

    • @User_Call_Me_Chaudary
      @User_Call_Me_Chaudary Před 4 měsíci +2

      Problem is vegeta cost his win by his own hands whenever he has a power to beat main villain he just want villain to gain a power and take L in his collection

  • @Warpios
    @Warpios Před 9 měsíci +10

    I think it could be cool if Frieza finds some way to travel across the multiverse and ends up finding the 6 revived universes and unites/conquers them and uses them for a universal war.

    • @StephenOwen
      @StephenOwen Před 9 měsíci

      That would be a great way to bring Cooler and co into the cannon

  • @lummymanpix
    @lummymanpix Před 8 měsíci +1

    i would love to see uub become a main character. i think itd be cool to fill out the team with all the new characters that are around goku and vegeta level and actually have them save the day a bit. i dont mind goku always beating the final boss but i do like when the characters (at the very least vegeta piccolo and gohan) are relevant power level wise.

  • @mileswilliams5810
    @mileswilliams5810 Před 9 měsíci

    The way he puts things together is quite impressive

  • @LavaCreeperPeople
    @LavaCreeperPeople Před 9 měsíci +4

    The Future of Dragon Ball Super

    • @hidd3n-4li
      @hidd3n-4li Před 9 měsíci +4

      The Future of Dragon Ball Super

    • @HotFootBunny
      @HotFootBunny Před 9 měsíci +4

      ​@@hidd3n-4liThe Future of Dragon Ball Super

  • @HeisenbergFam
    @HeisenbergFam Před 9 měsíci +3

    "thanks for watching"
    Thanks for making it, the commentary is on point

  • @seroledibatane2182
    @seroledibatane2182 Před 9 měsíci

    Man this guy's videos never disappoints 😊.

  • @freaknasty666
    @freaknasty666 Před 9 měsíci

    @carthu's dojo are you going to make an "Entire Frieza Black" vid like you did for Moro and Granolah? Love your content!

  • @Jayjs20
    @Jayjs20 Před 8 měsíci +7

    Or...hear me out...we can all turn them into babies!

  • @riadaboueljoud5126
    @riadaboueljoud5126 Před 9 měsíci +4

    Mostly it's gonna be a new evil cerealian that might be related to granolah.He came to earth to find granolah (who might have comeback for 24 hours to earth).Fights start as he knows now that granolah allied himself with the saiyans that were the one who killed his people.(I work with Toyotaro,this is still a concept,just told this to you,please keep it a secret) toyotaro is discussing this concept with Toriyama but it's still a non-certified to happen concept.

    • @jman617
      @jman617 Před 9 měsíci

      Ok bud

    • @felipecardel
      @felipecardel Před 9 měsíci

      "please keep it a secret" he says on an youtube comment section

  • @EvanBlack11
    @EvanBlack11 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I re-watch some clips from the older dragon Ball z movies like The World's Strongest and Dead Zone. I might sound old but i really miss DB focus on true Martial Arts. I would love to see a fighter that is more hand to hand with a mix of great Ki. This is what makes characters like Guy and Rock Lee so interesting. Creating a character like this could help bring DB back to its original concept while still having crazy powers.

  • @EJ-jp3br
    @EJ-jp3br Před 9 měsíci +1

    For anyone who knows about dragonball kakumei it could have a similar approach for frieza to take a spot as a destroyer or vegeta visiting planet sadala I think a way to get beerus serious against frieza is for frieza to kill champa and take his spot, idk though

  • @NanobanaKinako
    @NanobanaKinako Před 9 měsíci +12

    Universe 13 to 18 rebelling looks interesting. We could get a villain who's at the same level as the Grand Priest. Or perhaps a villain that even Zeno would struggle as seen in Anime War. I know this is unlikely to happen but what if Xicor is one of those villains? Anyone miss the Dragon Ball AF days?

    • @skullkid9830
      @skullkid9830 Před 9 měsíci +1

      The god above gods struggling? Naw, that's when you get into really dumb stuff that seems like it's thrown together like the anime war.

    • @stillkountin
      @stillkountin Před 9 měsíci

      @@skullkid9830exactly lol

  • @TheCronq
    @TheCronq Před 9 měsíci +11

    Honestly, I want to see some kind of Shadow Dragon arc, where overuse of the dragonballs and maybe the super dragon balls too, because that was the best idea GT had, and to see it redone in Super woukd be awesome.

    • @ChristophelusPulps
      @ChristophelusPulps Před 8 měsíci

      @@robertothesupermutant830 That's kind of a baller move, to be honest. Really asserts her dominance over the divine creature.

  • @mace4978
    @mace4978 Před 2 měsíci +1

    that and also a exploration of zeno and the grand priest !

  • @tankeater
    @tankeater Před 9 měsíci +1

    5:15 OOO YAH!!! Goku will definitely be caught up with "other activities" with those 2 😈🤣

  • @AaronWOfficial
    @AaronWOfficial Před 9 měsíci +4

    Just putting this out there.
    People made fun of me in school because I watched dragonball Z.
    I'm in my 30's now, and nothing has changed I am still a huge fan.
    That is just how good dragonball is, so good I didn't care what others think and continued to watch and enjoy. And still a fan now even as an adult.
    Whatever the future of dragonball super is, I am sure it will be great.

  • @Logical
    @Logical Před 7 měsíci +6

    Honestly I'm tired of Freeza. It's only because they can't come up with a new cool nemesis.

  • @valkoln8436
    @valkoln8436 Před 9 měsíci

    Keeping the other universes alive could be really cool. I like that idea you brought up with another TOP and black frieza trying to get the super dragon balls

  • @Isa-gp1iz
    @Isa-gp1iz Před 9 měsíci

    LETS GOOOO A NEW VIDEO

  • @Mj4life1230087575
    @Mj4life1230087575 Před 9 měsíci +3

    I kinda like the idea of Zeno erasing Trunks' timeline to have massive effects on the rest of the universes in that timeline- effects that bleed into our timeline. I don't necessarily wanna see Future Trunks again, but I would definitely like a better ending to his story.

  • @drakerb7281
    @drakerb7281 Před 7 měsíci +6

    Let Vegeta defeat freeza this time c'mon

  • @vespakiwi8809
    @vespakiwi8809 Před 9 měsíci +1

    In my opinion, I would like to see a 2v2 bracket type of ToP, it would also be interesting how vegeta would handle that with his "attitude". Just my take on the matter.

  • @MetalJordy
    @MetalJordy Před 9 měsíci +1

    I just hope that the currently manga only arcs get animated. I wanna see all this cool stuff

  • @Abi_Briskcast
    @Abi_Briskcast Před 9 měsíci +3

    I hope Cooler comes back in the next arc with black freeza

  • @FunnyLarvaFamily-lx8xh
    @FunnyLarvaFamily-lx8xh Před 9 měsíci +1

    Can we appreciate how they tried their best to make this amazing
    video for us 💖💖💖💖💖

  • @jtwoody21
    @jtwoody21 Před 9 měsíci +2

    With beast Gohan, Ultra Ego Vegeta, Orange Piccolo and Broly it'd make more sense for Goku to want to train Uub then it did at the end of Z. Everyone of his other rivals have caught up to him in power and down need his as much to train as Uub would to control his Majin/God powers

    • @StephenOwen
      @StephenOwen Před 9 měsíci

      Let’s have the final battle end with Beast Gohan fusing with Broly to give us Brohan

  • @CoolaCoola
    @CoolaCoola Před 9 měsíci +2

    They need to bring back Cooler

  • @riadaboueljoud5126
    @riadaboueljoud5126 Před 9 měsíci +2

    I work with him (Toyotaro) we made the granolah arc together.I basically know some ideas that are being discussed in DBS manga making but don't be very certain of what i write,It's still a discussed concept.Toriyama is also starting to discuss DBS:Cooler movie with will include both brothers in black color vs Goku,vegeta and broly for a first time as goku mostly will have his new "Final form" for dbs atleast in that movie..Please don't share infos like this on your channel. 🙏🙏

  • @mushrambokinniku4900
    @mushrambokinniku4900 Před 9 měsíci

    I would love to see any of the ideas shown on this video but deep down I know that the next arc is just going to be another strong guy that Goku and Vegeta are going to fight against and they will beat him by getting a purple super saiyan form or something.

  • @franqusco
    @franqusco Před 9 měsíci +1

    The hope of seeing the original story improving past these theories and fan mangas will never die

  • @anthonyserna2710
    @anthonyserna2710 Před 2 měsíci +3

    I don’t care as long as gt is never canon

  • @claradoonan9137
    @claradoonan9137 Před 9 měsíci

    i love when this man uploads

  • @gus9797
    @gus9797 Před měsícem +1

    Each arc brought in a new character that's allied with the main characters (Hit, Jiren, Merus, Granolah, the Gammas) so I think they'll return for the next frieza fight

  • @brady50429
    @brady50429 Před 9 měsíci +1

    We need a menace... Like kid buu blowing up the planet without saying a word kind of menace.

  • @kichiku_demon2167
    @kichiku_demon2167 Před 9 měsíci +1

    KALE AND CAULIFLA LEARNING FUSION DANCE WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA

  • @kiraexe.7856
    @kiraexe.7856 Před 9 měsíci

    I had a theory that perhaps after the movie recap in the manga the oracle fish would say that gohan is the strongest mortal currently In the universe which would bring the cell saga recall full circle. But now that you mention that we might get an Uub training ark it might be him as well.

  • @ryzalpha8641
    @ryzalpha8641 Před 9 měsíci +1

    This might be oot, but one thing I find it interesting in modern Dragon balls is that they put to effort interesting non-canon characters to fit the current narratives. I remembered when they announced the Broly movie, I was excited because they get to canonize both Broly and Gogeta, 2 of my favorite (ex)non-canon characters. And also by the time of Black Frieza arc, I really didn't expect Cooler to make an appearance, guaranteed he was obliterated immediately but still it's interesting that they do THAT kind of fan Service.
    with that in mind, I have been thinking about Modern dragonball characters that might be at some point be some of non-canonical characters, but changed because it's too different or doesn't have Enough narrative relevancy:
    -Turles and Goku Black, are both evil version of Goku. But with different backstory.
    -Bojack and the Heaters both were space Pirates, but Bojack is the leader that is really strong. Meanwhile, Gaz from the Heaters wasn't the leader, and neither do Elec to be hinted as strong.
    -Baby and Granolah, both were fixated on revenge for the saiyans. I guess the difference between them is just the name and the name of the race. And Both arc were an introduction to a new kind of transformation.
    *I want to make the connection between Orange Piccolo and Omega Shenron, because it would've make sense if Piccolo were to gain Dragon powers instead of just colour change when asked to Shenron. But I'm stretching it too far. But it is a miss opportunity tho.
    I think that's all I could think of, if I miss something or I got it wrong please do let me know.

  • @matti.8465
    @matti.8465 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Yeah, at this point Vegeta getting his revenge wouldn't be satisfying. He needs to let go of his past and constant need to prove himself, so him not being the one to kill Frieza (or at least not doing it alone) and being okay with it would be a nice resolution.
    Vegeta doesn't need the W, he needs to learn to be a team player.

  • @coreysenko8386
    @coreysenko8386 Před 9 měsíci +1

    "They" will be Beerus' greatest rivals, eh?
    whispers "fusion" on the wind....

  • @chompiechomp6341
    @chompiechomp6341 Před 8 měsíci +2

    I am actually also hoping for them to integrate Granolah in the future arcs

  • @Timber834
    @Timber834 Před 9 měsíci +1

    You don’t know how much story potential db has now that there are other universes