Carl Froch picks his Top 5 Super Middleweights of ALL-TIME 👊
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We catch up with Carl Froch, Johnny Nelson & Matthew Macklin and ask them to pick their top 5 super middleweights of all-time. Who would make your list?
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1. Carl
2. Froch
3. The Cobra
4. The One Who Knocked Out George Groves
5. In Front Of 80,000 People In Wembley.
😂😂😂
I loved that one mate ! So true
Lost his first match against groves should of been counted out
You got it spot on !
Lol
The fact he put himself and Kessler over eubank, benn and Collins, Christ he loves himself
Froch's record at Super-Middleweight piddles all over Collins' and Eubank's, and is better than Benn's, too.
Froch deserves to be higher than those three, just better resume
Kessler debatable
Lol Froch is better than those 3. Dont let the hype and memories deceive you. His CV is miles better
Froch had the 3rd best record possiblity 2nd because Roy didn't fight many at super. But I'd agree with Johnny and matt
Tony Bellend how can benn be considered British level :S he beat Gerald McLellan
Haha even Johnny was like erm no Carl, Calzaghe would have beat you 😂😂
Calzaghe's mother would have beaten Froch, with one hand.
Calzaghe is far better than froch he would have beaten him no problem
"Dan Rafael had Hopkins winning that fight", Dan Rafael also had Wilder beating Fury in their first fight.
😂😂😂
Great point
Imagine getting put on your arse multiple times and then claiming you were robbed 🤦♂️
Really.......did he go missing for 6 rounds??
@@illmitchjax Only clueless yanks believe he wasn’t robbed 🤦🏻♂️
Joe is still living rent free in carl head all these years later hhaha
Joe bottled it.
@@Richard_Straker aye? Frank warren seems to believe froch was offered the fight twice and twice he turned it down. He said this years after his bitter split with calzaghe so wud have no reason to do calzaghe any favours. And you know Warren is usually a bitter resentful man who holds a grudge.
Dream on frock, Joe would have schooled you.
Joe just rabbit punched his way and played it safe. Never found him entertaining at all. Him and Robin Reid when pretty boys clash. His strength was that very unorthodox style and rabbit slapped his opponent. Swear his put fake weights in his gloves. Dirty fighter as well. Just didn't rate him
@@louisbala2791 are you black?
What a complete melt Carl is I've met lemons less bitter! Bang average fighter with a world class chin. His key advantage was having a nose that kept most fighters out of jabbing distance!
James Hutchinson “average” give over man, just because he disses JC at every opportunity it doesn’t take away from his record against higher level fighters.
Yeah froch wasn't average man, maybe his boxing IQ/skills weren't brilliant, but as a fighter he was special down to his chin and heart
Lol hahaha haha his Beak...
😂😭
GSXR1000 K7 don’t talk shit man, Groves had every opportunity to knock out a Froch that took him lightly and couldn’t, then got knocked spark out in the rematch. RJJ was well past it when JC beat him, so you can hardly claim JC beat the prime RJJ. As for fixing fights, you’re clutching at straws.
You can tell he feels threatened by Calzaghe.. He’s not giving him the credit he deserves.
Froch fought better competition with in prime fighters.
@@obitriceforlife5771 Prime fighters AVOIDED Calzaghe. Bernard Hopkins, 2002. backed out of a fight
after agreeing a purse. Jermaine Taylor in his prime at Middleweight was another who refused to
fight at 168 until Calzaghe was gone
@@obitriceforlife5771 Prime Lacy. At the time, he fought Calzaghe, the whole of the USA was raving about him. Can you name ONE Froch opponent who had such a groundswell of support? name one Froch opponent where before
the fight, everyone was saying "a bridge too far for Froch"
Who did Froch fight that was a bigger challenge than Kessler was supposed to be for Calzaghe?
Dont say Kessler, or Ward. They dont count..... They beat him lol
@@hambutty1 Lacy had never faced world class opposition. Who did ever beat of note before or after his fight with Calzaghe? He had a lot of hype because of a lot of early KOs against low level opposition. Bute was the same when Froch absolutely destroyed him. Bute was the favourite against Froch, unbeaten and ranked No1 in the world, above Ward at the time. Although Bute actually had far better names on his record than Lacy.
@@bengraham878 Lacy has said Calzaghe beat him so bad his confidence was shot - not to mention, Lacy had surgery on his shoulder and lost that big left hook that got him to that Calzaghe fight. He was a shot fighter mentally and physically after Calzaghe. It is what it is.
I'll always remember when froch beat 80,000 fans at wembley infront of george groves
How deluded does Froch have to be to put himself in 3rd LOL, he would be lucky to make the top 10.
Behave yourself! Froch is comfortably top 5.
@@DoFi12
Hearns, Jones, Toney , calzaghe, Ward, Collins. Eubank, Benn, McClellan....the list goes on but Froch is nowhere near it.
Hearns has 3 fights at super middle and Mclellan 1 you moron.
He’s a fighter that’s taken punishment won world titles why would he not rank himself in the top 3 gotta be a fan of yourself nothing wrong with that.
Got to support your Welsh mate and yes I'd have calzaghe 3rd think he would out point froch but froch is in the top 5 he has the 2nd best resume at super to ward. Eubank and Benn ran from James Toney fought noone elite
Carl mentions Kessler’s hand and not taking anything away from Kessler as he was a machine but Joe Calzaghe fought for years with broken and smashed up hands!!!
listen i'm a massive Kessler fan, there were no excuses from him after the Calzaghe fight and that's all that matters not Froch
comets00 👍
Kessler in his prime beat Froch. Joe beat Kessler in his prime. Carl was taylor made for someone like. In my opinion Joe would've beaten him even worse than he did Lacy Froch would've been too brave for his own good. Joe by ko or wide unanimous decision.
Carl is so salty over joe, Still lives in Carl’s head rent free 😝
Not salty just stating facts. I think it’s the other way round hence why Joes life has gone off the rails since he retired. Carl is as arrogant now as he was when he started. He’s comfortable in life and he’ll always put those digs in on Joe because he knows it irritates Joe. Rent free. Literally no one pays Joe to do an interview where as Carl is getting a fee every time he has a dig.
@@megadave1197 Joe would have had Froch at any point of his career tho, regardless of fame and fortune that hasn’t nothing to do with his skill which was far superior to Froch.
@@megadave1197 This wasn't about personality or character, it was about ability in the ring, and Froch is nowhere near top 5. He couldn't live with any of the others mentioned here. Total joke.
Chris Eubank had a Granite chin and he said that Joe hit him as hard as anybody else’s
Perhaps Joe's hands got worse over time and so he started to punch lighter over the years?
@@derekathomson Exactly that.
He also said Benn hit the hardest.
No.. he said Joes speed and sheer volume of punches made the punches hurt more... he has always said Benn hit the hardest
So bitter this man is 😂 stop insulting Calzaghe. Respect the man.
The only person who thinks Froch beats Calzaghe is Froch
Yes
Joe would have beat Froch and his brother together!
Agree but Froch was much more entertaining by refusing to slip punches and meating out brain damage to anyone who wanted to swap neurons for cash 👍
@Zx10r 08 Stevie wonder ain't blind. Seriously
Jones jnr.would have beaten them both on the same night,, if in his prime.🥊
"Mediocacy." - Carl Froch
4:23 froch “you love that top five don’t ya” the silence says no we’re embarrassed and we wish we wasn’t here , what a joke froch is
Froch can undermine Calzaghe's record and opponents all he wants, but Calzaghe would have beaten Froch easily, ALL DAY LONG. Wonder how those lemons taste...
Agree. I'm not a huge JC fan, but he'd beat froch. As would prime Eubank, Watson and Benn.
100% obvious envy here from Froch. Worlds apart in class here.
100% agree mate. They say he had no power. Must have been watching a different Calzaghe!
I'd be surprised if Froch could lay a glove on him.
Calzaghe would beat froch with 1 bad hand...
Calzaghe would have destroyed Froch, what a bitter fool.
Froch was tough, but he was also one of the thickest boxers out there, I real Northern twat
Froch would of smoked his boots.
Who are you lol
Calzaghe's engine was something that would punish/disappoint any fighter, also he was very quiet, probably that's why is so underrated..
Quiet? He’s as arrogant as Carl. Only difference is Carl has the resume to back it up. Joe’s best fight was Kezler.
Froch forgetting how he was nearly beaten by groves, and needed a ref to call it off too early in the first fight.
Bang on the money mate!
Excellent point . Froch is too full of himself .
Salty Carl putting himself ahead of one of the U.K. greats in Joe Calzaghi , Joe would have boxed his head off.
Carl thinks him vs Calzaghe is the debate! Lol it’s not up for debate.
The real debate is Calzaghe vs Ward. You know Ward, the guy that beat you?
Bang on the money tht has always been my supermiddleweight dream fight love to debate about it I think joe would have beaten ward aswel but it would of been close but speed and work rate would of seen his hands raised
Bruv Ive had a few lines 2night and still agree with what you said son. But Calzaghe was a great fighter. Have a good one bruv
Ward walks through Calzage
Froch got owned by ward.
Totally SCHOOLED.
CALZAGHE V WARD would be the best v the best
luke starmer 🤥
I love hearing Carl Froch's dry humour especially when talking about Joe calzaghe 😅
That wasn't humour about Joe, it's pure bitterness and jealousy.
Froch is just jealous of the success of the Hall Of Fame career of Joe Calzaghe.
@@keithcampbell6806 froch is a hall of famer too lol
@@keithcampbell6806 Froch fought better fighters...
Calzaghe wipes the floor with Froch
All day everyday
In front of 80 000 George Groveses at Wembley.
yeah, but fought Evans Ashira instead .... pathetic resume Calzonie had
10 years of meaningless defences
Don't talk wet, Froch would push Calazaghe to the limit, I'd go with the conensus and lean for a points win for Joe
Froch putting himself ahead of Cazaghe 😂😂😂 Get off the ale ladl
momo15boss1 better wins, regardless of how a fight between the two would’ve gone. Froch, hands down, had a better run of top level fights even though he lost two.
I argee, Carl was my hero when I was growing up, but I think Joe is would of just been to clever for him
Joe just could adapt better than Carl. Carl comes square on, calzaghe creates angles and I think there fight would of gone similar to the calzaghe lacy fight.
momo15boss1 I totally agree with Karl about cazaghe.. and I’ve said it for years.. Karl has a better boxing record looking at he’s opponents compared to joes
Darren Khan Froch is 100x better than Lacy. Froch v Calzaghe would have been a great fight, it’s the fans who were robbed when Joe decided to take on Hopkins and RJJ in rather pointless fights, and he almost lost to Hopkins. He should’ve fought Froch, that way none of this debate would be happening.
Froch is still so bitter about Calzaghe 😂😂😂 surprised he didn't put himself at #1 😂
Must have been a devastating thing for him to do you know on his real list he's number one
egg fooyungface lol
I rate him but he should have shown groves some respect after the first fight, because he could have without doubt been finished in the first round
@@toolate7251 👍👍
As someone who's from near Nottingham I used to love Froch when he was fighting, and was so happy when he knocked out Groves (in front of 80,000 at Wembley lol), but now both have retired I find myself liking Groves more and Froch much less.
I found it funny when they were on a show together and Groves comes out with "I retired Carl Froch at Wembley in front of 80,000 people" 😂
"1.Carl Froch
2. Carl Froch
3. Carl Froch
4. Carl Froch
5. George Groves .... 80,000 at Wembley, mate!"
I followed you from boxing on tv in the afternoon Carl and I knew you'd go far and you did. Well done to you young man! (I'm 62)
Nelson gets my respect for openly saying that to Froch
It was kind of like pulling teeth, though. He knows Calzaghe would have had his way.
Even so Nelson had to be diplomatic to stop Froch bursting into tears
Froch you Dosser!, you do yourself no favours at all. I respect your achievements in the ring, but out of it, no respect at all.
Carl Froch has some deep seeded resentment towards Joe Calzagie. It's pathetic
tbf he was desperate for that fight and joe ducked him 🤷♂️
@@palatialpetals Calzaghe would have easily beaten him, too bad Calzaghe was at the end of his career when Froch was interested.
Calzaghe the type of guy that you will see if your local boozer on a friday, and be in the gym on Monday getting ready to smack Froch about. Its a fact. The only thing I like is Carl Frock missus, she definitely takes it up the asss
@@wtf5410 guessing is a giid game but the reality is froch chased calzaghe for years and joe ducked him and thats' facts
PALATIAL PETALS these Calzaghe worshipers conveniently ignore the fact that Froch was screaming for the fight and Joe decided to run to America to fight a couple of has beens after a decade of facing mediocre opposition in his home country. If Froch had done that when Groves was chasing him they would be calling him a coward for ducking Groves. I liked Calzaghe, but his record is overrated given some of his opponents. Byron Mitchell floored him and so did a faded RJJ, now imagine a young, hungry Froch in with him and these “boxing experts” think Calzaghe was untouchable. Would’ve been a great fight if Calzaghe had taken it, a Battle of Britain that would’ve been a classic.
The way he makes everything about himself is actually a thing of beauty
Froch is an amusing caricature and certainly plays into it, but i really feel that both his record as a whole, and the classic nature of a number of his fights individually, deserve more respect!
calzaghe would of run rings round froch. a prime calzaghe v a prime froch, the Italian dragon all day long.
Craig Popham run away from Froch would be more accurate.
Bollocks
No point in claiming either would win when they never fought. Ali v tyson, sugar Ray v mayweather jr etc
Prime Roy Jones versus anyone on the planet, Roy beats them, regardless of era
@@punkoid76 Calzaghe never ran from anyone
Imagine having a career like froch and still being bitter at calzaghe😂
tbf he was desperate for that fight and joe ducked him 🤷♂️
Imagine just being kevin ryan
@@palatialpetals Barely anyone even knew who Froch was then.
@@emanuele1334 Ditto...Joe the best ever...and with damaged knuckles ...😎👊👊
@@palatialpetals lol what nonsense. calzaghe was on the way to fighting hopkins and roy jones. and you think he ducked carl froch who wasn't even established back then
Agree with Johnny. Calzaghe wins most rounds on points vs Froch when both in their prime. Similar to every fight Calzaghe won against stronger opponents. Calzaghe had too much speed and always outworked his opponents
Look at Joes record he fought very very few notable fighters and the last 2 on the list were washed up
@Ark royal rife moon base alpha washed up or not.. we are judging what they did against who in their respective careers. Who has done better than calzaghe? Not Carl froch that is for damn sure if that's what your aiming at?
@@arkroyalrifemoonbasealpha6101 Calling Calzaghes last two oppenents "washed up" pretty much rules you out
of any boxing conversations. After Calzaghe beat him... In Hopkins very next fight he battered Kelly Pavlik, he beat Tavoris Cloud, drew with Chad Dawson.. Oh, and called Froch out.. "Come up to 175 and lets play" said Hopkins. "No thanks" said Froch, who also bottles a rematch with Ward
@@daveroberts6791 2 forty odd year old washed up boxers mate and regardless of the decision made by the Judges I had Hopkins well ahead in their fight with an honourable mention of being floored by a near pensioner in boxing terms in the early rounds shower let's look at Joe's CV I see the great Tucker Powell fought him f or his WBO title amongst many other nobody's
@@daveroberts6791 Yes ahh the great Tavores a fighter who lost 3 of his 25 fights before retiring having held the IBF title and defending it against the likes of the great Gabriel Campo amongst many other no body`s he wasn`t even washed ley alone washed up
Was waiting for this
I'm surprised it weren't:
1 Froch
2 Froch
3 Froch
4 Froch
5 Froch
It "wasn't"!!!!!!
More surprised it wasn't
1 Froch
2 Groves
3 Froch
4 Groves
5. Sold out 80000 at Wembley Arena.
1. Dylan
2. Dylan
3. Dylan
4. Dylan
5. Dylan
Froch up
I admire carl's fighting spirit and confidence putting himself in front of calzaghe but his style would have made joe look sensational.joe's sheer punch output,handspeed and smoother movement would have earned him a tough but well deserved decision in the same way ward showed his superiority over carl.
PMSL Calzaghe probably the greatest Super Middle ever barring Prime RJJ. BUT you can't ignore the fact that Calzaghe BEAT RJJ! And Joe himself admits, despite him trying to make the fight while RJJ was in his prime, he DOUBTS he would have WON the fight had it happened then!
Froch isn't top 5. Top 15 maybe! Calzaghe is 2nd or 3rd. Prime RJJ is 1st.
Chris Eubank's has admitted that Calzaghe's so called little weak slaps hurt him. other fighters have said the same.
jeff lacy's resume was pretty good up till the calzaghe fight. with the majority of his opponents having positive records. he was at 20/21 fights undefeated, with the majority of his fights ending in KO or UD. that's not a bad resume. and calzaghe destroyed him. For me Canelo Alvarez, James Toney should be some where in there. froch and kessler shouldn't be on that list of top 5's. maybe top 20's.
i like carl, he was a good fighter and a warrior. but this is no way for a warrior to go about. disappointing. wouldn't mind if it was just British banter.
Irrespective of what was said AFTER Joe Calzaghes fight with Lacy. Was Carl Froch ever in a fight where pretty much every pundit and bookie was saying he'd bitten off more than he could chew? Apart from Ward I mean (and they were right)
Was Froch ever in another 50-50 With a dangerous unbeaten young World Title holder like Kessler who the pundits thought was a massive test?
Was Froch ever in a tougher fight than Calzaghe v Bernard Hopkins at 175?
The answer is no
He knocked 26 or something like that, people out cold so they were hard slaps
Carl "the cat" Thompson would have beaten a prime Carl Froch
I agree... Lights out Tony and Canelo definitely on the list ahead of Froch and Kessler
@@loganandchaseserver260 joe to me has got to be the best British fighter ever, just look wot he has achieved, and the 46 and nill says a lot
Froch fought like 9 former/future world champions back to back.
Joe fought bums for 10 years.
‘Lacy was a hype job’ - world champion before Calzaghe annihilated him
The fact that Froch has put a WBC belt behind him just sums him up perfectly 😂
Yeah, can’t believe he is proud of being world champion.
@@AH-zs5hf Yep. These guys who risk their lives for our entertainment should at least have the humility to lock their belts away in the basement.
M8 Smokin Joe Calzaghe best of them all. Heavy handed great work rate.
Nah prime roy jones beats anyone
Heavy handed? Lol
ALWAYS LOVED WATCHING CARLS FIGHTS - VERY ENTERTAINING.
Calzaghe lives rent free in Froch's head!
He even mistakingly calls out Calzaghe's name when shouting for his wife or kids in the house 😃😅🤣😂😭
Joe's living in that head rent free. calzaghe beats froch easily possibly by late tko
Who’s seen the Amadeus movie? Calzaghe is Mozart. Froch is the good, but much lesser talented and very jealous Salieri.
He had an amazing chin, a hall of fame chin..........because of that we'll never know how big his heart was.
God, Carl really hates Calzaghe, doesn't he?
He does, and andre ward too.
He’s bitter and jealous, he’s wasn’t in the same class as Joe.
😂 Froch can’t get over Calzaghe...
Carl was a quality fighter skills chin punching power. His one simple floor was that he was so slow, Shockingly slow. Which is why he was a second half fighter, when the other fighter started to slow down he’d always get better. If he was quicker I think him and SOG would’ve been a close fight
Ward was a different level, Froch would never beat Ward. But at least Frochie had the balls to take on dangerous fights...his 12 fight streak was a who's who of top fighters, win or lose
love Kessler, such a credit to the sport of boxing
I like Froch but he was not a better fighter than Joe in a million years.
Carl just can't leave calzaghe alone... lockdowns getting to my man.
Carl’s a funny lad, you can’t help but like him
Froch got schooled by Ward and he would have got schooled by Calzaghe. I would have preferred to see Ward vs Calzaghe. Froch was good but those two were elite.
Johnny nelson is going to be taken off the Froch Family Christmas card.
Ah of course an completely unbeaten hall of famer in joe calzaghe is 4th
He wasn't better than prime Roy Jones Jr
@@jh4892
Roy Jones fled the division.
J Hussain that's debatable but the facts are JC tried to get the fight when jones and Hopkins were in there prime... we shall never know
@@NoneNone-kp1qc do you think Calzaghe was better than James Toney?
@@NoneNone-kp1qc hopkins won another title 5 years after they fort
Love it lad cheers❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Froch is a class act and also intelligent. Much respect from Denmark
I agree that Roy Jones junior is number 1. But Froch above Joe?! Come on.
How do you make Roy no 1 if calzaghe beat him I know Roy was shot but joe was no spring chicken was he
@@adamheeley7894 roy in his prime made everyone look like a child. Calzaghe was never on that level of dominance
but was prime Roy on the juice? who knows
@@dawerr8871 who knows if anyone was at times of less thorough testing, they all could've been? Why run with assumptions?
There’s no debate. Even tho I’m drunk right now. Roy dominated in multiple weight decisions and his speed was natural, I’m a huge Joe C fan bye the way,
Hahahaha Froch is quality. Who puts themselves in a list.
Tyson fury
@@ehidiamenerewele434 yeah but fury is the man. Froch not so much
@@gandhiindia1685 you don't give yourself credit you get given credit by the public
@@gandhiindia1685 how is he the man? he beat bums since he has been back and wilder who's beat no one with a pulse.
Michael L you’re so tapped, so chisora twice is bad, so demolishing klitchko is bad, smacking wilder twice, Cunningham too? You’re so dumb and clearly know nothing about boxing.
Calzaghe would make Froch look like he didn’t belong in a ring at all. Think Margarito v Pac-Man.
You reckon that bad a beating huh?
@@fayahmad9063 yeah I really do, Joe inhis prime was the best Super-MW on the planet. Froch is a good boxer but honestly if you look at their opponents, achievements and the title runs/reigns it’s not even close.
You can only love this guy :-)
is this the guy who fought in front of 90,000 fans inside a sold-out Wembley stadium?? looks like the fella!
80 000 helmet
dont you know stories get exaggerated as time goes on... i heard it was 90,000...
@@SirSoppyBalls I heard it was 800,000
@@Joker-yw9hl to be fair... that does sound about right!
Don't you me 90 trillion
Eubank vs Calzaghe for the WBO title on Prince Naseem Hameds undercard just tells u how great the Prince was 👊🏽
Joe Is a legend. He is fast, determined, crazy, unbeatable and Will definitely beat Cobra like a Mongoose. No doubt.
everyone saying hes bitter to calzaghe yet everything cant argue with what he said
CALZAGHE WOULD HAVE F*CKED FROCH UP!!!!
ALSO A MUCH MORE ENTERTAINING FIGHTER!!!
Legend in his own mind ward made him look slow and methodical which he was .Nelson being oh so nice for God sake tell him the truth .He barely makes the top ten .
So many haters for Froch. I honestly think he talks about Calzaghe to just wind everyone up for a laugh. Guy's a legend
Calzaghe lives rent free in froch’s head 😂
CALZAGHE britains no.1 super middlewieght would easily beatin gobshite Froch...Nigel Benn and Chris Eubank r second and third brithish but best ever in th world had to go to Roy Jones Junior thats all i will agree on
@@jack-dy7cx he wouldve schooled the cobra
I reckon Froch would have out gritted Eubank and benn. Froch vs Collins would have been great
What about Hearns, Leonard, Toney.
It's actually humorous how he tries to belittle Calzaghe's record
Calzaghe fought nobody.
It’s true though.
thomas peaker lol no one baffling everyone avoided him till he got old
If you analyse the super-middleweights around at that time, Calzaghe fought everyone of any note apart from Frankie Liles. He didn't fight Sven Ottke, but we all know what would have happened. When he did fight a Kessler or a Lacy he was able to step it up and win convincingly. Hopkins reneged on a deal to fight him several years before they met. This has been well documented. All in all a great boxer, but it would have been fascinating seeing him fight Jones or Hopkins earlier.
He chickened out of fighting Ottke
@@damienmooney3342 Yeah, ok, mate......
He wouldn't of beaten Jones if it happened earlier
@@martinezpurdy9723 That's your opinion which you're entitled to, but, we'll never know.
@@damienmooney3342 In his his prime I believe Ottke would have beaten Froch,but Calzaghe had to much for Ottke
You have got to b kidding Hopkins was wrestling against calzahjge
Froch is an embarrassment to UK boxing.
I mean yes as a pundit but his body of work is impressive, just can't believe he's still so insecure after all he's achieved.
Vajid Ali Cheltenham
How hes had some shit hot fights, multiple champion what more you want
@@jg2213 True. As a boxer he was good.
@@stuartbennett334 as a pundit. His words are atrocious. Not his boxing.
Froch looks so much better now than when he was boxing, all that money from the groves fight done him and his face proud.
Froch was well beaten by Ward who didn't have the technical skills of Calzaghe so Calzaghe would have beaten Froch easily. To put SOB Ward at number 2 is an absolute disgrace. I watched most of his big fights and what amazed me was why he was never warned or disqualified for head buts wrestling, holding, use of elbows, low blows, in fact, the full repertoire of illegal tactics. This seemed to be the basis of his"skill set" plus a great part of his record relied on more than biased or compliant refereeing and judging.
Ward was more technical than calzaghe, and I'm welsh.
Dear oh dear Carl 🙈 how do you manage to keep a straight face 😂😂
Love Froch but come on son calzaghe would of slapped you silly
can't put Froch in front of Eubank or Benn, jheez. Eubanks beat Watson in that GREAT fight then defended 15 times in a few short years going to Berlin beating 35-0 Rocchi(better than Kessler), draw with WBC king Benn.... Benn took the belt off the champion in ITALY, defences vs Eubank & G-Man, lhws like Piper, Giminez(dropped Duran early) etc no comparison... Also Eubank beat Collins clearly imo
I was a huge fan of Eubank, Benn etc but let’s face it apart from fighting each other they didn’t really take on the other greats of that era like RJJ or Toney or McCallum or Jackson. Froch fought every top fighter of his era and only lost to one without avenging the defeat. Calzaghe ducked Froch, no question. Saying that Benn did fight McClellan.
@@punkoid76 nobody Froch faced was anywhere close to the level of those names,even Ward who ran or held mostly, you didn't see the skills of Mccallum or Toney from him. Imagine or Julian Jackson or Mcclellan hit Froch like Taylor or Groves did,it would be curtains
Roy Jones was Pascal x10000. Can't compare,even when Carl lost he kept getting big fights right after that he didn't deserve, if Eubanks or Benn lost back then they'd b back at bottom of pile earning peanuts,wouldn't need Howard Foster jumping in either
John Dyson Benn fought Barkley and Dewitt in the USA because his stock in the UK dropped after the Watson defeat, hats off to him. Benn was my least favourite at the time but in retrospect he had the most heart and wasn’t afraid of an L on his record. Eubank was great but he should’ve fought in the states against RJJ or Toney or Jackson. Froch is way better than you guys give him credit for, he fought better opponents back to back than all of the others but for some reason this misty eyed nostalgia for the late eighties and early nineties keeps him from being considered great, bollocks. I lived through that whole era and followed boxing closely, Froch would’ve been a tough fight for all of them. Julian Jackson might’ve KO,d him if he landed like he did against the bomber, that would’ve been a great fight if the Hawk was a SMW, but it was a new division back then.
fred callan Benn lost and after four fights had a title shot, Eubank lost and within three fights had another title shot at SMW and back to back title shots at cruiser weight. Your argument holds no water, sorry. It was a different era back then, especially when Benn lost, no PPV to hype fights. Eubank was an early PPV star in the UK so when he lost he was quickly back in contention. Froch was runner up in the super six and his first defeat was in the super six so he was already contracted to fight for another title, if Bute had entered it or if Ward had chosen to fight him after the super six then Froch probably wouldn’t have had the chance to go straight back to the top, that was all down to decisions by Ward and Bute, not Froch’s fault.
Calzagi best super middleweight out of UK in my generation.
Carl didn't want the fight because he knew he would get beat
Calzaghe would've wiped the floor with froch. What an absolute melt. Calzaghe is the best super middleweight
Bitter contradiction Froch at it again “whopper”
Is Froch being serious? He sounds very bitter about the legend, Joe Calzaghe.
Fair play to Johnny for being honest.
"Roy Jones was so finished". Yeah, he went on fighting for a decade after the Calzaghe fight, with a winning record in that decade. So much of a finished fighter. I can't stand the "Roy Jones past his prime" thing used to undermine Joe. He was past his prime and so was Joe, but Roy was not an half retired fighter or anything.
Jones jr vs calzaghe in 1996 would be their prime and jones jr would play with him! Jones jr was the best around
if tommy hearns marvin hagler were around in 90s they would beat lot of them
er...wrong weight?
Wrong weight and nobody beats Roy in his prime. Best ever
Nope sugar ray Robinson would have took Jones apart. Fact.
@@jboardy5439 Robinson was a welterweight ffs. Not the same even at middle.
@@garrynewnham That is so, but that wouldn't have hindered such a classy operator as SRR. So many of the A.T.G's performed at several weight classes. The weight difference (in my opinion) would have meant nothing. SRR had enormous strength in both hands. I Stand by my original statement. SRR THE GREATEST. PFP. EVER.
Carl is so annoyed trying to still convince people he had a chance 😂😂😂🤣🤣
I feel sad for Carl. I really do. He was a great fighter who gave his all on the ring and gave us plenty of classic fights and entertainment, and yet somehow, his mouth ruins his image, because there is nowhere in hell he could beat Calzaghe 😂😂
Completely disagree. Don't get me wrong , i would make Calzaghe a big favourite for that fight but to think that Froch had NO chance of winning against literally ANYBODY is absurd. He was outclassed by ward but he was never totally out of the fight. I'm not a fan as a human being , but Carl Froch, as a fighter was a true test for every fighter he faced, and every fighter he faced knew it.
@@MrGrungefuttock He lived in the wrong age he's a 15 round fighter he'd be hell to fight against anyone in those last 3 rounds.
@@paulanthony5274 bang on !
I'm watching this for the second time and this time in even more disbelief.... I wish for the social media world to petition Carl Froch to stream himself watching the film Mr calzaghe so we can all watch the tears flow 😂
Carl won 2 ABA titles which is very hard to do,but joe calzaghe won 3 on the Trott at 3 different weight divisions beating future world champions in the process, calzaghe is the best fighter to come from UK 🇬🇧🥊🥊
Best Boxer*
Chris Klitou joe was a box/fighter who didn’t mind mixing it up,he wasn’t the best purest boxer,so im happy to stick with fighter 👍
Joe beats Froch and I like both fighters.
All day,! I would have licked a grannies fanny to see that
Carl Froch is underated, but I am gonna give Joe the Nod
It wasn't boring watching Andre Ward, absolutely school you
Actually it was. Ward was a boring hugger. Lost to Kovalev and got a gift
Why are we having this discussion?. I know Calzaghe, James Tony, Nigel Benn, Chris Eubank would have stopped the cobra and Canelo on points.
Definitely
Stopped them on points????
Carl you just made my day,RJR is the G.O.A.T for me thanks pal
If froch was around 10/12 years earlier he wouldn't have got past British title level. He should be proud of his own achievements instead of having bitter lemons towards his peers.
Froch number 3 lol
1 Calzaghe
2 Jones Jr
3 Ward
4 Canelo
5 Toney
6 Benn
7 Eubank
8 Collins
9 Kessler
10 Froch
What a fantastic resume carl has a fantastic career