NARUTO: SWAGKAGE MADARA UCHIHA VS NAPPA (REACTION + MY THOUGHTS)
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What is up folks today we look at the rare cross verse matchup videos with this one by Swag and I thought it was a very good video. Do you think Madara defeats Nappa despite the vastly different power scaling amongst the respective universe? I thoroughly enjoyed this video but did disagree with some aspects of it. I hope you folks enjoy my content as well as my own thoughts on this topic. If you mess with the content, plz leave a like, turn on bell notifications, and hit that sub button to become part of the family. MUCH LOVE!!!
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Ozymandais was the smartest man but couldn’t do anything to doctor Manhattan. This is how this fight would go
Based off of the juubis energy alone being compared to a planet (earth) in the manga by the water sensing sphere-((chapter 613))
Juubito- small planet (saiyan saga piccolo)
Madara- large planet (captain ginyu)
Kaguya- dwarf star (first form frieza)
Momoshiki- star (final form frieza)
Isshiki- large star (imperfect cell)
Scaled with each ten tails amp.
Note: THESE ARE LOWBALLS. Kaguya was going to destroy a star with a planet in a dimension.
Y’all don’t roast me too bad ._.
@Bewoop large stars are hundreds of times bigger than normal stars. And thousands of times bigger than dwarf stars. So it still makes sense.
@@CodemanDBZ you do know king vegeta destroyed 3 planets with a wave of his hand . And he had a power level of 10,000. First form frieza has a power level of 530,000.
And when the ten tails got summend. They said he has nature energy of earth .
Like water , ...
So when the said he made his planet they were saying that because of his energy similar to earth.
And kaguya got beat by moon level opponents. She is nowhere near star level .
@@CodemanDBZ so now you know
Total nonsense. No character in Naruto has come close to destroying the Moon. Toneri merely SLICED a hollow Moon. Planet level? What is WRONG with you people?
Comicvine is filled with Narutards. Nappa is a multiple Moon level destroyer, and a small planet level destroyer. His speed is far greater than any character in Naruto. He is too fast to be hit by genjutsu. Even if you anyone wants to claim genjutsu would hit, Nappa would simply power up and break out of it, and kill Madara in the power up process. It's that simple. People need ot stop comparing Naruto to Dragon Ball characters. Dragon Ball characters are on a completely different level. "Oh my GOSH! Infinite Tsukuyomi!" So? Option 1: Nappa blows up the Moon. Option 2: Nappa intentionally gazes at the Moon while laughing. He uses the Moon to transform into the Oozaru (Great Ape), which multiples his power by 10. 4,000 (minimum) x 10 = 40,000. Nail on planet Namek was 43,000. He stood no chance against Frieza, and that same Nail would have wiped the floor with Saiyan Saga Vegeta. This is how power levels work in Dragon Ball AND anime. Every other anime copies Dragon Ball.
Master Roshi destroyed the Moon at a low power level of 150 increasing to 180, according to the official Daizenshuu guide book. Raditz was 1,200 minimum and 1,500 maximum. 1,500 divided by 180 is 8.3. This means Raditz has enough power to destroy Earth's Moon EIGHT times over in a single charged energy attack. Raditz is a small planet destroyer. Kakarot charged his homing kamehameha to 950 on the scouter, officially. That is a multiple Moon destructive attack. Raditz turned around and blocked it with his bare hands. No character in the entire series of Naruto has enough power to harm Raditz. He is also too fast. Kid Kakarot trained to dodge lightning with Mr. Popo. Master Roshi could catch bullets. Kid Krillin, Kid Kakarot, and Master Roshi were throwing around Afterimages like it was child's play. The human crowd could not VISIBLY see their movements in the ring. Kid Gohan could not even follow Yamcha and the Saibamen until Piccolo told him to focus.
The problem is, Naruto generation of kdis have NEVER watched Dragon Ball in their lives. They know nothing about Dragon Ball. So why are kids who know nothing about Dragon Ball claiming that wannabe ninjas can win? Naruto fans need to watch other anime. Especially the original legendary anime shows that came before Naruto. Start with the ORIGINAL Dragon Ball that came BEFORE Dragon Ball Z. SKIP DBZ: Kai and watch the original Dragon Ball Z the way it aired on Toonami (remastered version now, I think). If you have not watched the original Dragon Ball that came before Dragon Ball Z, you should not be discussing why Naruto characters can fight Dragon Ball Z characters. DBZ characters are on a completely different level compared to the original Dragon Ball when they are Moon destroyers.
@@bikotheanimator6169kaguya destroys her star + sized dimensions and recreates them with her chakra...
Toneri was going to hurl the moon at Earth and it was going to destroy the planet. Naruto doesn’t even have to go six paths mode to beat the same guy with a singe punch.
The problem is you’re assuming things before actually looking closer into the details then claiming the other side is biased. You’re making yourself look biased.
i mean for nappa to get hit ofgaurd by a laser like goku he would have to be powered down. If nappa is powered up he is actually durable to possibly not get one shot. Possibly it depends maybe nappa may suppress himself because he feels cocky
so nappa durability >ssb goku lmao
@@FuzionGamerChannel umm no
I recommend watching can Naruto destroy a planet form Seth it basically proves that naruto characters are like star to solar system level or around there The planet+ stuff is kind of old scaling there more like Star level to Solar system level nowadays I mean Naruto characters still aren’t really much in Comparison to dragon ball but they are definitely around the cell saga or early buu Saga level though that’s more of a high-end I don’t wanna seem aggressive or anything just saying
problem is star level is quite inconsistent with naruto and there are not any solar system feats
Bro you is definitely on some drugs you Naruto characters are around Cell saga and buu saga NO! stop it that is D highest wank I've ever seen, at most Naruto characters stop at frieza last form
@@ssjbluevegeta7020
Dude kaguya destroys her dimensions that include a star and planets.
That’s already more than frieza.
Then momoshiki scales above her... multiple times because he takes god trees from planets often...
Sasuke and naruto beat him at half power.
Then isshiki scales more than 3 times above that because he fodderized full power naruto and sasuke.
To say they are solar system by this point is kinda obvious. Could even go beyond as momoshikis realm has many stars in it.
@@CodemanDBZ thanks
@@CodemanDBZ Bro that not solar system levels tf that's large planetary to large star level your crazy, the ova says they are STARS is her time space with a couple of moons and it took her a while to charge up while Frieza in FIRST form CASUALLY destroyed a LARGE PLANET with his finger then he goes final form which is nearing solar system to low solar system. Go learn the meaning of Stars,Planet level and what it means to be solar system cuz clearly u don't understand
What if nappa and raditz returned on Seth channel. Please watch
the thing is if you will probably fight between nappa and madara you will choose madara because nappa will destroy a city in a snap just to make an impression.
“Yur too weak to hurt mee” 💀
😂
nappa taking the destructo disc reminds me of a certain someone that took a night guy head on
Madara wanting to have some fun before accomplishing his end goal and suddenly discovering the most powerful person he’s ever seen at the point is not the same as Nappa just being cocky
But he didn't take it . If Vegeta wouldn't have warned him hed be dead
Comicvine is filled with Narutards. Nappa is a multiple Moon level destroyer, and a small planet level destroyer. His speed is far greater than any character in Naruto. He is too fast to be hit by genjutsu. Even if you anyone wants to claim genjutsu would hit, Nappa would simply power up and break out of it, and kill Madara in the power up process. It's that simple. People need ot stop comparing Naruto to Dragon Ball characters. Dragon Ball characters are on a completely different level. "Oh my GOSH! Infinite Tsukuyomi!" So? Option 1: Nappa blows up the Moon. Option 2: Nappa intentionally gazes at the Moon while laughing. He uses the Moon to transform into the Oozaru (Great Ape), which multiples his power by 10. 4,000 (minimum) x 10 = 40,000. Nail on planet Namek was 43,000. He stood no chance against Frieza, and that same Nail would have wiped the floor with Saiyan Saga Vegeta. This is how power levels work in Dragon Ball AND anime. Every other anime copies Dragon Ball.
Master Roshi destroyed the Moon at a low power level of 150 increasing to 180, according to the official Daizenshuu guide book. Raditz was 1,200 minimum and 1,500 maximum. 1,500 divided by 180 is 8.3. This means Raditz has enough power to destroy Earth's Moon EIGHT times over in a single charged energy attack. Raditz is a small planet destroyer. Kakarot charged his homing kamehameha to 950 on the scouter, officially. That is a multiple Moon destructive attack. Raditz turned around and blocked it with his bare hands. No character in the entire series of Naruto has enough power to harm Raditz. He is also too fast. Kid Kakarot trained to dodge lightning with Mr. Popo. Master Roshi could catch bullets. Kid Krillin, Kid Kakarot, and Master Roshi were throwing around Afterimages like it was child's play. The human crowd could not VISIBLY see their movements in the ring. Kid Gohan could not even follow Yamcha and the Saibamen until Piccolo told him to focus.
The problem is, Naruto generation of kdis have NEVER watched Dragon Ball in their lives. They know nothing about Dragon Ball. So why are kids who know nothing about Dragon Ball claiming that wannabe ninjas can win? Naruto fans need to watch other anime. Especially the original legendary anime shows that came before Naruto. Start with the ORIGINAL Dragon Ball that came BEFORE Dragon Ball Z. SKIP DBZ: Kai and watch the original Dragon Ball Z the way it aired on Toonami (remastered version now, I think). If you have not watched the original Dragon Ball that came before Dragon Ball Z, you should not be discussing why Naruto characters can fight Dragon Ball Z characters. DBZ characters are on a completely different level compared to the original Dragon Ball when they are Moon destroyers.
Cmon now the most intelligent people in db are angels and stuff but i get the premise
@JTheGreat hey 👋 I’m Carnifex, a new fan of you but an old fan of Seth and Swag
The issue with this is you watched a lot of his older videos and not much of his math oriented newer videos for scaling, like you did watch some but most new videos you watched were inverse so calculations were not needed so you don’t have the updated info like I can get why you think Small Planetary can be a stretch if you don’t look too much into the statements and calcs for feats but it is truly a low ball for Six paths madara like when Base Alive EMS Madara can be anywhere from Continental to Multi Continental if not Small Planetary due to the Nine tails which half the nine tails can fight Toneri’s golem and get hit by the ten tails which we are shown it’s raw chakra is comparable in size to the whole planet meaning it’s raw chakra and amount is Small Planetary bare minimum then it goes through some more forms then Obito absorbs it then Madara absorbs that power plus half the nine tails, like it’s very clear Small Planetary is not a stretch.
Toneri cutting the moon is a causal feat which still gets high into Moon level due to how fast it was, though Toneri’s plan was to either throw the Moon at the planet to destroy it or destroy the planet himself so the narrative implies he is Planetary too.
Seth goes over a lot of it in his Can Naruto destroy a Planet video but tbh that video is a bit outdated cuz he messed up on the turn the world to ash calcs, there’s more stuff now and tons more calcs, and sadly his video that went hand and hand with it to expand on the higher scaling which was his Momoshiki video was taken down after multiple attempts.
Also all the feats of making Moons in the series is way above Moon level, Hagoromo making a Moon is consistently Planetary to Large Planetary, Naruto and Sasuke make one to seal Kaguya was calculated to be Small Planet to Planet level+, and so much more.
Also while Kaguya is much stronger than Madara she’s Large Star to Solar System level off of her lore + feats which is a large range so he likely is in the lower end of the power range so he could be Star level.
But Star to Multi Solar System level those ranges are more solid now, and Planetary ranges are super consistent and way above just Small Planetary.
Now to be fair to Dragon Ball it isn’t as stupid as Seth says here cuz this before he got more analytical and detailed, yet Nappa is Fucken brain dead lol
Ki is made out of spiritual and mental energy along with physical energy too via some statements so they do have mental and spiritual defenses but back in the early DBZ it was pretty trash so it wouldn’t help Nappa at this point.
But Chakra and Ki have the same types of energy so they are very similar so saying they can affect each other similarly is valid, it isn’t sound or 100% just saying tho.
Also the laser thing that hurt God Goku that’s just the movie which isn’t canon, in the anime version it only hurts Base Goku it’s still bad looking but to be fair this laser has no feats or anti feats it would just be pis aka Plot Induced Stupidity the same with the bullet shit.
But yeah they are weaker and easier to hurt when off guard but it isn’t that ridiculous on a consistent level.
Also to be fair in OG Dragon Ball they went from low tiers with human to Mountain level and bullet timing to lightning timing then to Rel to ftl and Moon busting, they just went through the tiers faster. So the beginning of DBZ being above Moon level and got into Planetary quickly but it was pretty linear.
And for the Linear progression argument to counter the Star level Kaguya point doesn’t work, we just watched some videos on why power cliffing doesn’t always works in Naruto all the time so it could be the case here too. Not to mention Naruto didn’t use six paths Mode against toneri you can tell by the eyes, he used full KCM with Sage mode so even if he’s stronger then it wouldn’t be weird that he beat Kaguya barely going all out and with help meanwhile he was not using his full power here then one shots him at the end of the fight, not to mention if we use the guide statement then Toneri could be on a similar power level as Kaguya it doesn’t say he’s superior it says similar so in the same range. Let alone the fact Momoshiki made his own dimension with many stars in it so he made a better dimension than Kaguya and he scales above her narratively so it helps the scaling.
Anyways no hate man I just think you need to catch up with the new metas for Naruto scaling that people like Seth, Swag, Thundergod, King Bullet, and etc. are now expanding on to prove it with evidence to fulfill the burden of proof.
I understand your opinion on naruto char’s power lvl but I think u low balled them a lil Seth and swag scaled kaguya to star lvl using that huge ass truth seeking orb. Madara is definitely small planet lvl and u have to remember nappa cam around the time planet lvl feats still aren’t normal. The biggest feats around that time was piccolo destroying the moon but u have to remember the moon in dB is hollow and isn’t directly related to ours and that was right befor the vegeta and nappa arc
You got that backwards, it was Naruto that had the hollow moon. Not dragon ball, it was even stated in Naruto that it was hollow. Also they stayed depending how you wanna interpret it you could scale her to star level.
the moon in dragon ball is not hollow the moon in naruto was hollow.
U guys r right my mistake but my point still stands that nappa is still close enough in power to madara to have a good fight I think j low balled madara and high balled nappa
@@xrae183 Perhaps.
Nappa lifts two fingers
Interesting thing is you can get ten tails obito to planetary due to the god tree or even edo madara with the meteors. But that's highballing. Obito being planetary has been calculated tho.
Even with plenatary madara
Its still weaker then nappa
@@bapponoflacko well madara is way stronger than the planetary obito just like nappa is stronger than raditz. Plus madara has hax.
@@ziggibear1920 plenetery obito is a midball
Probably a highball
But even reditz is like 10× moon level
And even someone like Krillen one shot 3 characters each one as strong as Reditz at the same time
Thats actually crazy to think about
Meteors aren't planetary
@@SuperKamiGuruu the energy that they output could be planetary depending on how fast they are moving and the mass
Either his attacks are not strong enough to kill nappa I can’t watch that dude ya watching he biased bad