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- čas přidán 14. 05. 2024
- In the latest edition of “Ripped from the Headlines”, we meet Thomas Michael Canevari Jr. and Sarah Virginia Brennan from Thomas Jefferson University. They tell the story of their commencement ceremony, the painful reading of the graduating class names, and the speaker who butchered the pronunciations. How bad was it? The video has gone viral! Press play!
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The name was right above the pronunciation, so it makes no sense why the speaker would get it wrong.
I don't think that was literally the cards they had at graduation. Im pretty sure that wasn't the style of phonetics used either, it was probably IPA which looks like ɪˈlɪzəbəθ. (That's Elizabeth, which she also butchered).
@@jacobbellamy7640 3:16 so you're telling me the Tamron Hall producers showed a photo on the screen of a card with Sarah's name on it that wasn't real? It's possible but why would they do that? Look at 3:16 that is clearly a photo.
@@JenJHayden because they didn't have the original and so someone in their production team did a mockup of what it would possibly have looked like.
The university almost certainly would have had it as a list rather than individual cards as well. But the thing which makes me pretty sure she got IPA pronounciations like the above is that her attempts matched pretty closely what someone unfamiliar with them would guess like saying 'I-Li-zabayo' when trying to say Elizabeth.
@@jacobbellamy7640 that is unfortunate
Especially THIS wrong. Disgusting
Perfect example of why DEI is so stupid. And it's also not fair to the people who benefit from it because this makes them all look bad even if they're not
His name is Thomas the name of the school is Thomas Jefferson University how did you screw that up
There is absolutely no excuse. She got them ALL wrong, even some very obvious and easy names.
I’m sorry Tamron but there is no excuse Sarah is Sarah is Sarah and Thomas is Thomas is Thomas the speaker should have look at the name period
Exactly.
Tamron is trying to play devil advocate by being politically correct... that helps no one!
Plus it's literally the name of the school lmfao
My guess is the speaker was trying to get through the names faster by only looking at the phonetic spellings, and wasn't even looking at the normal spellings.
You really expected them to enforce any responsibility on the black woman? 🤪
Are you kidding me? The name was clearly printed. The woman reading couldn’t simply read the name without phonetic pronunciation.
Is she unable to read?
But my thing is, she didn't even read the phonetics correctly. If she had it would have STILL pronounced the name correctly 🤔
Thomas had a little bit of sass and had to correct it 😂 the others just smiled and acted like nothing was wrong lol
People were making it sound like only the pheonetic spelling was there, the actual name was clear as day right above that
Those aren't even hard names to pronounce like what are they doing?😒
Congratulations to the graduates of Tamomay Jafarsayun Univerfssss.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Bro, that said Sarah Virginia Brennan. How you gonna make an excuse for that?
You mean ˈsɛɚ.ə vɚˈd͡ʒɪn.jə brɛ́nən ? That's what the IPA phonetic spelling looks like.
Right. I literally cannot think of another way any of Sarah’s 3 names would be pronounced.
@@jacobbellamy7640 even then they should have gotten someone who actually can read phonetic spelling and should have practiced beforehand
@@jacobbellamy7640are you slow? That’s not what was on the card.
So I graduated from this college 6 years ago. We had to indicate how our name was pronounced on the forms to graduate. Plus, there's many graduations for each separate college at Jefferson, like business, etc. This wasn't new, and no other speaker has messed up badly enough to make the news. She needs to stop blaming other people
It’s not hard to read it phonetically either though. She was lying and trolling.
A-aron, Jaquayline, Buhlakay.... iykyk 😅
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SCREEEEAMIN FOTFRLMAO!! GO TO PRINCIPAL
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Exactly what I was thinking.
trying their hardest to say this was not intentional.You only ready the phonetic spelling if you are not sure about whats up top.
Congratulations, Thomas and Sarah! 👨🎓👩🎓
You mean Tamomay and Zaire?
the university is literally called thomas jefferson university, how in the earth do you pronounce thomas wrong
How can anyone mispronounce those names? English wasn't her first language.
It was her 47th language
If it was written in IPA her attempted pronunciations make sense. Try and say these common english names yourself:
ɪˈlɪzəbəθ
ˈɔːbɹi
ˈtɑ.məs
duˈanə
ˈmeɪɡən
Except that at the top of the card is the actual spelling, so no there is no excuse at all.
There's NO EXCUSE for attempting to Ruin a Ceremony!The Presenter should have been INTELLIGENT ENOUGH to simply Read the Graduates' Names, which were written in BOLD PRINT at the top of the Card.. what a CLOWN! 🤡
MY SENTIMENTS EXACTLY !!!
There's ZERO excuse for this! The names were on the top & should've been practiced hours prior so any corrections could've been made! This is why people should be hired on MERIT!
Practice? Who would think this requires practice in the first place?
@@chandraray7798 Why should a speaker have to know how to speak if they are diverse, and wrote a great essay about their struggles?
@@derrickpiche1119 I am saying this is something that wouldn't require practice in the first place. You would think they would be able to say a name like "thomas" without practice lol.
@@chandraray7798 The person whose complete incompetence went viral!
If a person knows how to read English there's no need to practice, she's just a dummy. She's so stupid she messed up the name Thomas....the name of the school!
Girl bye that explanation is absurd
If she apologized to me I would say: I accept your apology but how can a presumably educated person be so stupid?
It wasn't a mishap. Show her face. Even the card was readable, but the name was at the top.
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Was the persenter who mispronounced graduating students' names at Thomas Jefferson University a black woman?
ChatGPT
Yes, the presenter who mispronounced the names of graduating students at Thomas Jefferson University was a black woman named Kyra Hines. She apologized for the mispronunciations, which drew significant attention and criticism.
I can't believe they let ChatGPT off the chain!
@@topherjnwhat are you saying man
It’s Thomas Jefferson University, if you don’t know Thomas the name, where have you been?
what nonsense.
There is NO EXCUSE! The phonetic option still " says" her name correctly. THAT was not confusing! Plus the traditional spelling was there. These were presented the same way other universities, colleges and schools do ALL around the country and they are successfully read. Come on Tamron!
I don’t care about that card Tamron needs to stop trying to explain … this was inexcusable.
Congratulations to you both!! An amazing accomplishment and a little viral fame! Wishing you both all the luck in the world!
The excuses don't make sense at all.
1. Even if these were not proper given names (let alone many of them being common, including the name of the university), it's the norm to look at the top of the sheet first, and they were bolded for crying out loud.
2. The speaker still butchered the phonetic pronunciations.
3. How can a person in academia be that bad at reading?
I’d definitely be worried about what my children learned if these were the people teaching them! Save your money folks and send your children to trade schools.
It was a NURSING SCHOOL!!
That is what's scary!
The phonetic spellings were written correctly. The speaker simply couldn’t read words phonetically. SMH
This CANNOT be the reason for this! The normal spelling of the name is RIGHT THERE at the top of each card right above the phonetic spelling. Why in the name of god would you keep reading the phonetic spellings when it was completely obvious that you couldn't read them?! WHY!!??? They are plainly lying right to our faces.
?? The card on the show isn't literally what she was shown. I think it wasn't the same phonetic style either, it was probably done in IPA where Thomas is written as ˈtɑ.məs/. , and Elizabeth which she screwed up constantly is ɪˈlɪzəbəθ .
That is far more plausible than the university acting out a key and peele sketch to mock their students at graduation.
@@jacobbellamy7640 Why in the name of God would their normally spelled names not be on their frickin name cards? That doesn't make any sense at all.
@@waynebollman poor planning and/or miscommunication? It could be she was a stand in for someone else who preferred to have the names given in proper IPA because its completely unambiguous in how the names are meant to be pronounced, assuming someone knows how to read it.
Its possible she requested the phonetic list of names, expecting ver-jin-yaa but got given vɚˈd͡ʒɪn.jə instead and hadn't checked the list before starting.
I'm certain she got the IPA because she said 'Zabayo' when trying to say Elizabeth. You can see how someone got that from ɪˈlɪzəbəθ. Because what is the alternative explanation here? She is illiterate? She was having a stroke? She was intentionally mocking the students?
@@jacobbellamy7640 she was mispronouncing the names on purpose, this happens literally all of the time to people of colour and so she saw her time to repay the favour. This was done out of protest but obviously the school would never admit to that, even assuming they know the truth about the situation. She could have easily lied and gave the phonetics arguement.
Although I do think you're onto something, it's just highly unlikely she wouldn't have seen the list beforehand or had some other visual queue for the names.
@@LovelyEbony an intentional mocking of the students I would think is extremely extremely implausible and unlikely. Because that would be insane.
If it was non-IPA phonetics with the persons name as normally written then the next most likely explanation is going to be it being a deer in headlights moment where messing up a couple of times resulted in mounting panic and additional mess ups which prevented her from even noticing the names in their normal form also being listed. Like that Miss South Carolina clip from the mid 2000s.
This really shows how hollow it is to receive a degree from people who are this incompetent.
"It's all a joke." - The Comedian
................how pathetic ..... to apologize from the presenter and the school...crap, this lady should have had the NAMES printed out....not some nonsense like 'phonetic' spelling....geez!
I don't think she can read
The names were printed out above the phonetic spelling.
Oh, come on! The person reading the names had the correct spelling in addition to the phonetic transcription. You are minimizing the IGNORANCE and buffoonery of the speaker. It wasn't a mishap. It was a car crash.
Tamron: "You see why the mistake happened."
Uh... No?
It WAS intentional! Sue them!!
There is no excuse for this.
The dumping down of America
Congratulations to both of you, sorry about the name 🪓 ⚒️ 🔨 ❤❤
I guess this is when they will start using AI
I thank Sarah for showing how the card was presented, with the real name at the top- otherwise the school and announcer would have gotten away with the implication that there were only phonetic spellings on it. And we can see that the announcer was also mispronouncing the phonetics. Also, people like Tamron keep trying to explain why they think it happened- why aren't school officials explaining? (Also, Tamron exaggerating the mispronunciation to try to make it seem reasonable is not helping- the ONLY part that would make sense to not get right is the Vuhr).
Omg the printed names obviously weren’t there on the card during the ceremony…. Why they weren’t is beyond me
Can-cel-led this show
Congratulations & your both adorable ❤❤❤
Crock of crap, and this paid pr moment is an embarrassment.
Was the announer high as a kite?
Tamron should have introduced them by their mispronounced names. LOL
What? No, I don't buy their excuse. It's more obvious to me that the person was either having a stroke or they don't know English names at all, whatsoever. Who works at an American school, but can't pronounce English names? Incredible.
The phonetics were written perfectly so it's just 'another' level of Stupid from the Announcer.
Why are they skirting around the issue?
Wow! No wonder everyone passed teacher don't even know how to pronounce names. What type if education would you get if this is whats teaching u. Geeeez
Where were the other professors and school officials? Those parents should get their money back.
His name is now Ta’mo-mae
You only use the phonetics if the name is complicated and you need it. These were basic names. I’m scared if this lady was a teacher…
I have average intelligence and can pronounce those names easily. I can probably pronounce some foreign names fairly well too. This is embarrassing.
I guarantee that you are a lot smarter than you think you are!
One of the names she got very wrong was Thomas. At Thomas Jefferson University.
I think we need to go back and take a look at how the speaker pronounces the names of the black graduates. This should give us a look as to whether it was intentional or not.
Why is she defending the speaker? These phonetic spellings are NOT hard to read 😭 They even have clear spaces between them that the speaker completely missed out… it’s quite disrespectful to blame it on the spelling when the normal version was right above it and the speaker clearly didn’t practise beforehand.
No no no no no. I read names off of the SAME cards for my University. You just also use your critical thinking skills to get it right! We also read at a much faster cadence, have less time to think about it, and barely make mistakes. It is a big deal for the graduates' names to be read correctly. It is their moment!
Tamron, girl....what? This makes no sense when the name is on the card....
Bullshit! Not at a university LOL
The phonetic spelling explanation does not make sense. Because that’s not even close to what it should’ve sounded like. This woman doesn’t seem to be an English speaker at all.
Don't sympathize with the speaker-----the woman failed miserably on that stage. Not a mishap----total unprofessionalism and sheer stupidity.
Tamron: ''I empathise with that speaker.''
Really now? You could laugh, you could wonder, you could definitely criticise the poor choice of announcer of the (University) graduates...but one thing is simply too much - to empathise with the ignorance of the authorities who allow that carnage of the language to happened! And the blind compliance of the announcer to read from this crazy cards.This woke all-accepting american way has gone so far out and it's exhausting already.
LIE! The names were spelled exactly as the name is spelled ALONG WITH the phonetic breakdown.
Even the phonetic versions were pretty easy to pronounce, and that's the reason they gave the phonetic versions.... come on...
Omg 😂
“See why the mistake happened?”
No…. No I don’t, seeing that the correct spelling was right over it!
So either it was deliberate or that woman was too stupid to look slightly higher. I’m sorry if this sounds harsh but it’s kinda infuriating that they literally showed us the correct spelling was on that card and they don’t even mention it we’re just supposed to defend her smh
Tahmoo May looks gay
It’s Thomas university. Why break it down like that. Whatever it’s called.
You're so obvious in how you're trying to cover for the illiterate name caller.
I could understand the name caller stumbling over a name with unusual spelling (many Indian surnames are long and the reader would need to double-check before saying it) but most of the names called out were pretty straightforward. Messing up the first name of someone with the same forename as the person the university is named after is totally inexcusable.
No excuse whatever for this. Did the announcer not practice at all? Not to mention: the phonetic spelling makes perfect sense to me.
*Tamoomay Jefferson University
names were in Bold at the top
no excuse
Show is the speaker. I want to see what she looks like.
Valerie Clary-Muronda, an obese black woman who teaches in the Thomas Jefferson University Nursing School.
Was she actually illiterate?
the usual suspects! send them to O Shaq Hennesey's office
Diversity hire ladies and gentlemen 😂😂😂
Can Thomas tone down his cabaret moves? So unnecessary and inappropriate for the show.
Diversity hiring at its finest.
Stop making excuses.
hater move
DEI failure on stage
Having the correct spelling of their names above the phonetic spelling should have made her realize that she was mispronouncing them! I heard her apology and it was evident that she should have been able to read the names of the students since she graduated from college herself. Shame on her and the university for not being prepared beforehand by rehearsing the names and correcting any mispronunciations! It was an upsetting and possibly humiliating experience for the students whose names she slaughtered. UNBELIEVABLE!!!
I don't think the card shown on the show is what they had at graduation and is just a mockup. If the names were right there she would have had them pointed out to her pretty quickly. I also think the phonetics she got was probably done in IPA, so instead of vir-jin-yah, she got vɚˈd͡ʒɪn.jə. I can't say for sure obviously, but it seems like a far more likely explanation than her being illiterate or doing it to mock the students graduating.
there you have your diversity
I believe the students were the culprits by writing their pronunciations of their names as a prank.
The graduates didn't put the phonetic spelling on the cards. The school did that.
Robocop2u2 - yeah you also believe your mom was a virgin before she met your dad - well I’ve got news for you little buddy!
You've got a lot of problems.
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It’s like a terrible Mad Gab game. But it’s a legitimate excuse to the utter nonsense. I thought she was having some mini-stroke.