Are All Noodles Pasta?
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- čas přidán 13. 04. 2023
- Today, Josh and Nicole explore the difference between pasta and noodles. Are all noodles pasta and if so, are all pasta noodles?
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as a vietnamese person, i am really pleased about how much josh remembers/knows about vietnamese food language
I always find so fascinating the amount of things that Josh knows! Also I need a Nicole in my life, a bff that listens to all the things I say and the random facts I know and it's always so supportive and amazing. Also also gomiti is literally elbows (gomito singular, gomiti plural).
My take is this: All noodles are pasta, not all pasta are noodles. All macaroni are pasta, not all pasta is macaroni. As in macaroni and noodles are types/categories of pasta, where pasta is the grain-based food that is shaped and boiled. And the shape/size dictates the category. This is clearly a more colloquial interpretation, whereas Josh and Nicole are focused more on the language and history.
More importantly, regardless of naming, it's all delicious and I will continue to gorge myself on it!
Pasta literally is Italian for Dough. Pasta is the dough, noodles/macaroni/ravioli are the products/shapes you make from the dough. Dumplings are not pasta because they aren't made from the right dough.
Fact check: The word curry did not originate from Hindi, it originated from the ancient Indian language, still in use Tamil. Not trying to be that annoying person but Tamil language and people are often marginalized and I like to ensure we are still recognized for contributions to history and culture.
The black label Velentina's is a great base for wing sauce. You start with that, then you cut it with butter to your desired heat level. (and add whatever other spices/herbs/etc you want. I like a hot sweet combo, so little brown sugar, little honey, straight up hot sauce, garlic powder, onion powder, etc)
I’ve always thought of pasta as like a dish category with noodles in it 😅 noodles are any type of noodle like penne, linguine, spaghetti noodle, etc. and pasta is any noodle dish like lasagna, ravioli, speghetti!
As a Vietnamese person, I get giddy and appreciate that Josh mentions our food more than any other non-Viet person I follow.
wait till you hear about "Dampfnudel". Steamed yeasted dough-balls, usually eaten with hot vanilla-sauce, sometimes filled with fruit jams and topped with poppyseeds. These things are literally chinese bao. I have no idea which came first (nor does it really matter) but it just shows that anything can be a Nudel in germany and it does not have to be long 😂
According my sources, the word "cranberry" comes from German "Kraanbeere" or "berry of the crane" because the fruit grows in swamps and wetlands where cranes and other birds feed.
It's tranbär in swedish, and trana is crane
I was told by a third generation Canadian cranberry farmer that it’s because the white flower looks like a crane.
Wild cranberries can grow in bogs, meadows, and near wetlands. But commercial ones are flooded in the harvest season to make picking easier (cranberries float). So on commercial farms you will often see ducks swimming in the flooded fields. I’ve never seen a crane in a cranberry field though, I think they prefer a body of water with fish because when I do see cranes they are often fishing in rivers and lakes.
Someone else in the comments said it’s because cranes eat cranberries. I’m pretty sure that’s false because the farmer also told me that cranberries are one of the few berry crops that aren’t eaten by local wildlife. He said that cranberries are much easier to grow than a crop like blueberries because blueberries are loved by so many animals (rodents, birds, bears).
Nicole may break often but this episode might be the epitome.
I make Chicken & Dumplings by boiling Bisquik dough on the top of my soup. My mother-in-law made it with thick noodle-type “dumplings” that she boiled in her soup, which I always found heavy and slimy!
(She once also asked me if I put mangoes in my spaghetti sauce! She finally explained that in their part of Ohio their best Bell Peppers were grown by a farmer named MANGO, and his name was on the shipping boxes!)
lol ive been binge watching these videos for hours now and they r rly fun to listen to
We’re Dominican and yea the Spaghetti on the beach is very real and special. Nichole hit it on the head, it’s the carbs. Also it’s easy and inexpensive to make on a larger scale. Go early while it’s still low tide by the time it’s lunch that’s Spaghetti hits different. Ugh what time. Such great memories.
16:35 missed opportunity to say noodles the pug is Bark magic
I love Nicole, I love this friendship and I just love food talk 😊
“i’m sorry i mansplained noodles at you” JOSH 😭😭😭
We just need a clip episode of Nicole just losing it😅
43:05 Cran comes from kraan which means crane, and it's still used as crane. Cranberry is called crane berry in several languages. Cranes like them.
My family make Hungarian nokedli with csirke paprikash, and those are considered dumplings, but in my mind, they are large egg noodles. All that really matters is does it taste good and make you feel good.
Spaghetti Napolitan (super impressed with Josh for knowing about that) is basically what you described as cafeteria version of Pad-Thai. Spaghetti and Ketchup
Springfield style cashew chicken is basically chicken nuggets with brown gravy and topped wit cashews and green onions and I really love it. The brown sauce is probably different than gravy but not a lot and the cashews and onion make it different.
You can tell always sunny is josh’s comfort show 😂
Frico crackers, aka cheese crisps I would say are a great innovation of crackers. As for chips, Turtle Chips are so good, Lays tried to copy it and called it Layers.
Another reason as to why you'll get a different result if you replace an east Asian noodle with pasta is that pasta is made with durum wheat whereas a different type of wheat is used in east Asia, which imo wildly changes both texture and flavor.
I always used the terms noodle/pasta/macaroni interchangeably. Thanks for enlightening us! 🍝 🍜
Also when you talk about niche and jargon stuff like the special pastas can you put photos up of what they look like too
You could look the photos up
Crann is old Gaelic for "tree" not sure if that relates directly to cranberry or not but wanted to share
no but i had that thought process about the prune juice just the other day. like it does not make sense to me. also what's the difference between plum and prune juice in the flavour.
vietnames (or south asian) shrimp crackers are an innovation and made me realise we can make crackers out of anything
Josh is a GENIUS
My daughter and I were just arguing this yesterday!
Nicole laugh is contagious
This was such an unhinged episode 😂😂😂
“It opened up this huge can of worms.”
Okay, but are worms noodles?
“Gomiti” in Italian simply means “elbows”. You see pasta named after objects or body parts: “Orecchiette” or “ears”, “Farfalle” meaning “Butterfly”, etc.
Jamey Oliver made Ramen with Soba.... Almost threw my mouse at my screen!
Most interesting podcast yet 😂
All noodles are pasta but not all pasta are noodles. Noodle dishes are different from pasta dishes
Best order from Arby’s is the Reuben!
As a gluten free person, I disagree somewhat with the comments about alternative chips. Unfortunately, some of us NEED those. Would I rather be able to eat ritz? Yes. But I don’t want to make myself sick so I need them to innovate on chips and crackers so I can eat them! 😂
Love this channel!! You guys need to try DUCK EGGS. They are the 💣! Chicken can move to the side with these babies.
I've been rocking with the duck eggs for a few weeks now and dude... I can't believe how much better they are than chicken eggs! A little harder to crack, but worth it
Proud Dominican here. Dominican espaguetis are delicious, especially with some tostones on the side.
In Ireland, pasta and noodles are two separate things.
Yes!
6:03 no. Paste is not what that is, and pasta de nata proves my point. Paste is not a word that is the same, but it is not dissimilar.
Agreed! Big bag of dry egg noodles…noodles.
What about
noodles: a longer than thick evenly shaped starch product.
That way it fits fideos and other short yet "noodle" like products
Edit: added evenly shaped
I've always thought of pasta as the blanket term where noodles specifically refers to stuff like spagetti, ramen, lo mean, soba, papardel. Long and noodley. That's why it's called a pool noodle, or those wavy "noodle" guys at car dealerships.
Where as pasta refers to all of it, including gnocchi, rigatoni, and macaroni, which are not noodles, they are pasta, or macaroni.
I would also never consider a dumpling to be pasta, whereas ravioli is.
Basically, in my opinion, Pasta is the dough, noodle, macaroni, gnocchi are the form by which the dough is shaped/prepared.
Final edit: the word Pasta literally means Dough. I'M RIGHT S*CK IT JOSH.
Just some pointless personal preferences, based on the topics in this episode...
I use the names of all the various pastas to describe them.
I make spaghetti, or I make lo mein, or I make macaroni & cheese, etc.
The only time I use the term "pasta" is to generally describe one of my favorite foods to someone, or to write on the grocery list...it covers all forms in a generic way.
To reference the cold meat salad with fruit in it...
I hate tuna, but I do make chicken salad with fresh, sliced grapes or craisins...and sometimes I even go wild with fresh blueberries.
Imagine making mac n cheese with spaghetti noodles..... UNACCEPTABLE
I need josh and trevor on a podcast together
Just wanted to say that I appreciate the cranberry morpheme.
What about steamed dumplings?
What about Chinese jelly noodles? Or Chinese and Korean knife cut noodles? They're not long.
All pasta is noodles but not all noodles are pasta
I'm Irish and noodles here are strictly Asian whereas pasta is strictly Italian. We would never even call spaghetti a noodle, we'd call it spaghetti and would mostly use the names of the pasta types eg. penne, linguine, tagliatelle rather than just saying pasta. Describing pasta as a noodle seems very bizarre to me.
So pasta is from one country and noodles are from a whole continent?
@@johnathanleon3924 Well more eastern Asia like Thailand, Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam, China, Japan, Korea etc. Pasta is Italian. What Italians call pasta, noodles? They don't. They call each shape by their individual names.
I think how differently Irish people use other words in English makes this a hard take to add into one column or the other. I don’t mean different to be smart and intend to say incorrect by saying different for the record. but even things like dinner in Ireland isn’t dinner everywhere else. So idk if the Irish English distinction between noodles and pasta is particularly helpful in the context of this debate 😂
@@zerocraic3966 your comment is extremely badly written and lacking the proper punctuation. Please consider this in the future if you want to clear rather than just stringing words together in the hope you make some sort of sense. By the way, you are zero craic!
@@moorenicola6264 i can understand what he’s saying clearly. you my friend are the problem here. instead of pointing out something why can’t you just have a civil answer bc clearly you can understand what that comment says unless you are at 1st grade reading level😂😂😂
This is a podcast that debates micro categories and puts them into macro categories.
as a viewer from the UK no noodles are pasta, pasta is all the italian types like spaghetti or penne or whatever and noodles are only asian food e.g. raman noodles or stirfry noodles etc
Noodle is defined by the shape and process in which it was created.
Can y’all do a curry podcast/ CZcams vid?
But i feel like the concept of american's noodles very different in ny culture. Pasta is pasta, noodles is vermicelli, lye water noodles, etc. we don't really call pasta noodles here. And macaroni is considered pasta here as well since isn't it made from the same thing?
It was the Mongolian empire the golden horn time period Marco Polo was living at before coming back to Italy
If you do a podcast about juice then you HAVE to have Shayne on it! Daddy needs his Juice!!
Macaroni was a insult to Americans trying to look dandy like the Europeans at the time by just adding some kind of gaudy flair (from what I understand)
A hot dog is in fact, a sandwich.
Popcorners are the absolute best
I will only get a shake and curly fries at arby's because every single time I had a sandwich the meat was slimy like snotty slimy and that's completely turned me off from it
macaroni salad...very different than pasta salad!
is ravioli a pie?
Communion wafers are unleavened bread
I can't believe Josh wanted to divorce Nicole. That was just awful. 🤣
Please forcefeed Josh the fig and olive raincoast crisps.
why is everyone hating on burger king. their fries are top tier, their burgers far superior to mcdonalds. that caller is dead wrong.
I would never friend divorce Nicole! She's bomb.
Katz’s deli serves their matzoh with noodles. I HATE that.
In Dutch "pasta' usually refers to Nutella, because it is a paste of chocolate
Here to agree with that last voicemail! Arby’s is delicious and a unique fast food option and BK is absolute trash.
I'm sorry, but there is going to be a day where that Arby's gives u food poisoning, one day it'll get you
@Paul Servary how would Arby's give you food poisoning it's pre cooked roast lol
2:10 all pasta are noodles, and all noodles are in fact pasta. Such a silly argument…but I am always happy, for you to make money.
Josh only gets paid 30 grand a year?! 😢
Josh, Cantonese is called "meen". Not "mien". 😊
Also-also, we definitely cooked pasta as mien!! You've never had kraft mac and cheese til your grandma prepares it like ramen, where the cheesy packet makes a cheesy soup! Add spam, broccoli, and other toppings available in the US, of course. ❤ and stirfried spaghetti with chinese satay sauce. Although I was born and raised in California, it's taken a long time to be proud of the American influence on my Chinese culture. It's refreshing to hear Josh speak!
You're not missing anything Nicole. Communion wafers taste like styrofoam.
I need a White Castle vs Krystal episode. Are they the same...?
Polarized views for sure
I don't always eat noodles, let alone any type of carbs out there. Nothing against it. I just feel so slow & slug-like after eating stuff like that & to me, it is not a good feeling. So no on the carbs, but I do like the video =]
Burger King is the worst fast food place I have eaten.
Josh, Nicole is gonna ask for a podcast divorce real soon at this rate 😂😂
No! All noodles are ACTUALLY not NOWHERE near pasta.
Caller doesn't like things so people shouldn't have variety and healthy options?
Josh repeating the canto vs Mandarin pronounce of mein but pronouncing it word in canto made me laugh. But good effort canto has 9 tones so even the slightest difference is a whole other word
You do NOT need lip gloss to make you look better. Perfection cannot be improved!
You don't have to try so hard to be obsequious and deferential to the dominant social paradigm Josh.
Prune is a fruit on it is own... Looks like a plum but oval.
OMG the fact that Nicole doesn't know what Oberlin is, let alone that stupid story about the cafeteria serving banh mi, is so refreshing. So much online culture war nonsense originates at Oberlin, and it's nice to know that there are normal people who don't get dragged in to that crap.
Josh called the chao mein torta "cross pollination," missing the chance to call it "cross polinASIAN."
Woow!!
Hello
Yes! Burger King is trash
No
Okay y’all not cool to use someone’s pets death as an intro… have some sensitivity for them please
College is definitely a manipulative business not meant to help you.
Damn really? Let me go tell all my friends who got a degree and let them know they shouldn't be making substantially more money than me. Can't believe they got scammed
Eat more carbs, and we can all get diabetes weeeeeeeeeeeeeee.