It’s 170m guaranteed. He can earn up to 212m. At 170 it’s just over 42m a year. It’s a good deal for both parties. I’m glad it’s over and not an issue this season when we are trying to win a championship.
This team is always one unlucky play away from Hendon Hooker suddenly being the most important player on the team. And you guys think a 3rd round pick is too much to spend on that? You’ve got to be kidding me.
I don’t know how you can’t be happy with this. He’s a franchise QB that has taken us further in one year than any other lions QB has done in my lifetime. If you’re complaining about this just accept you’ll never be satisfied with anything.
You act like goff didn't have the best o line in football protecting him, the best running back duo in the league, AND arguably the best receiver room in the league to throw the ball to. My guy needs all that to be relevant. Goff isn't the QB you WIN because of.
@@juvli1394the receiver that was a 4th round pick? Who really started showing out in his 2nd year after a full year to develop with his starting qb? Yeah bad take.
Matthew Stafford is as much responsible for the Lions turnaround as you and me...NONE! The last thing Stafford was responsible for in Detroit was the playoff loss he suffered to the Lions.
@@artmeddaugh6669 Hey now let’s give Stafford some flowers. He was the 1st draft pick we made in the post Millen era, and despite not winning anything the Stafford era was a significant improvement over the Millen era
I’m still not mad at the hooker pick. The lions exceeded everyone’s expectations last year I don’t think the front office knew Goff would take us to the championship game. Now if Goff goes down the lions still have a shot of winning it all. Who else has that type of insurance?
As a Vikings fan, I can say that you guys have a Super Bowl team at least for the next two years and now is your time to capitalize on your window, unlike my Vikes from 2017-2019
Mike nailed it! Someone is worth what someone else is willing to pay and someone else is willing to accept. STFU my fellow lions fans. He won you a division and TWO playoff games and to the verge of a superbowl. We were eating Ramon noodles three years ago and now we’re eating filets.
@@MikeHard313f the bandwagon ass sol fans! Any true Lions fan trusts in Brad/mcdc. I wasn't 100 but I was pretty sure Goff would rise to the challenge, but he more than surpassed my expectations! JEROD GOFF, JEROD GOFF, JEROD GOFF!!!!!
Why are up in arms over a 3rd round pick for Hendon Hooker? You know how many 3rd round picks don’t even get used and just get traded at the deadline, or end up as depth pieces and not starters because GMs are evaluating fewer and fewer 1st round grades on prospects. Hooker will probably never take a snap here, but I like that we got someone with a good deep ball, good size and good athleticism as a back up to Goff. Goff is the guy, I feel better about having Hooker behind him than Nate Sudfeld… that’s for sure. If that cost a 3rd round pick than oh well
Look at the guarantee money not the overall contract if 212 mil. 170 over 4 yrs with the potential earn 212 with incentives. 4 yr at 170 mil is 42 mil and even that money is going to be tax.
Rico you answered your own question about Hendon Hooker. Last year you're correct about Bread not fully believing in Goff last year. That is why they drafted Hendon,I believe. To either be the next quarterback or like you said be the backup quarterback
He’s worth actually what they paying him. 42.5 a year including this year coming up. You got him at a bargain period! Now he must win period not just get there.
I love how people can sit there and say Goff isn’t a good Qb. The only reason he’s doing anything is because of the talent around him. I mean it is a team fucking game. The dude can play ball. He’s smart. He doesn’t make many mistakes. He’s great in play action. He loves this team and more importantly loves this city. Goff is happy to be here. Why shit on him? We have a guy that wants to bring us a championship. He wants to do it for the city of Detroit. He has experience in the playoffs. Why would we let him go and go with a rookie that hasn’t seen the field and is coming off an injury? It’s hard to find a qb in this league. So let’s not complain about it. Instead be happy we have a good qb that works well with this system. He deserves it
Let's see how Hendon Hooker looks this preseason and make our judgements on this deal. The only problem would be if Hooker looks like John Elway, but that's a good problem to have.
If you lop off the 13.6% increase in the cap, his contract is equivalent to $46M last year. This is a QB that can win us a ring on a discount(as long as Ben stays). Those savings can be used to extend Hutch, LaPorta, Alim, AND splurge on a couple FA's if needed. Ben leaving is our potential kryptonite but maybe a front loaded contract helps hedge against the possibility.
At 10:33 "If Brad Holmes thought he was worth 40 he wouldn't have paid 53". So it was previously stated that they weren't close to a deal. Either Goff was asking for more and Holmes talked him down or Holmes was trying to pay him less and Goff talked him up. I highly doubt Goff was asking for more than 53/year. Goff won this negotiation and Holmes lost, but at least the fans are happy and the culture is preserved.
From a standpoint of age, regardless of how next season goes, even if he has an awful year, he's still under 30, he's about the same age as Patrick mahomes. So, he has a great chance of leading the lions to a super bowl, my guess would be he would be around longer than 4 years, he won't even be 35. So, I think he could still have arguably 8 good highly productive seasons left. I mean, my question would be if the lions believe Jared Goff to be the guy at qb, and obviously the answer is yes, then, why not sign him to a 6 or 8 year deal? What's the difference? If you're willing to pay him 54 million a year, why not extend it for 6 or 8 years, then Goff would be closer to the end of his career. But, obviously, as far as qbs, this is the going rate, you have to pay, you have to be willing to spend money.
I think Hendon Hooker’s arc is what slowed this deal. Let’s remember Goff is NOT GOOD without a good OL. Many QB’s would thrive in Detroit. Kirk Cousins could be MVP. Hooker looks GOOD. Here’s why this was good for Detroit: keep everyone happy, let Hooker develop, if he’s the real deal you extend him in two years, trade Goff for multiple firsts to a team in need of a QB, spread the money to Gibbs, J Will, LaPorta, keep the OL top 5, and let Hook loose.
Dak will be the only other QB to get that type of number if the premise it to get paid per performance possibly Brock Purdy but that’s it no one is doing another Daniel jones contract without winning that’s why we waited to sign him forget the price they was going to pay it anyway hooker waiting will allow us to decide wether to pick up that final year of this extension or let hendon be the future at 28 after being the backup this is the best scenario for our team to sustain it’s current success so thank you Jared Goff buy all the buffs you want! 1️⃣ pride
People said the same about Stafford's signing, over priced, in within a couple years he was barely top ten salary, the same thing is gonna happen here but with more dubs haha go lions
Awful deal. No good QB being paid superstar money has won a SB in salary cap era. Goff is great when the rest of the roster is great. That soon will be impossible to have. But teams do this because it keep them good
Mike has a hard on for the Lions drafting Hooker. Who TF you want as a back John Brown from Kroger. Jesus Christ Hooker just needs to be good to replace Jarred if he has to miss games.
Am I the only one that notices that Mike routinely gets frustrated/annoyed with Rico? And rightfully so. Rico has 100% made the show worse and ratings have undeniably dropped since he came on as co-host. Yes they have fun and joke around sometimes, but it's pretty obvious Mike is a lot more intelligent than Rico. 8:45 for context.
Lions either sign Goff for market value and try to win a Super Bowl or they turn it over to Hooker and waste the best opportunity this team has ever had. If you don’t accept this as reality you’re stupid. I think a lot of Lions fans don’t understand that winning isn’t cheap.
I honestly don't know of ANY Jared Goff fans. Maybe in Detroit. I don't live in Detroit. Stop making the standard "winning playoff games". Superbowl should be the standard for this kind of money. You mentioned Tua; I don't think Tua plus Goff will GO TO a Superbowl in the next four years.
Lions fans upset by how much he got paid are just unintelligent people. There are only 6 QBs in the NFL I'm taking over Goff and every one of them is in the AFC
I don't know anyone who is upset Goff got paid, the opposite in fact, y'all love to make it sound like a large percentage of people are upset, that's just plain false.
Who's Danny Dimes? FYI - Tua is #1 on the NFL Deadpool, pass. Dak claims he will be first to make $60 MIL, Dak??? Watson was impressive before Message-Gate. Seattle got a steal w/Geno Smith. Lions paid a fair price.
My god dude. SLOW DOWN. All you keep posting is these strange emotional word salads with a bunch of misspellings. You’re literally responding to yourself here. It’s massage!!!!
Stop looking at Lions fans as a single entity LOL. The Lions fan base, like every other fan base, is a group of people with opinions all over the spectrum. You guys bad mouth "the fans" as if we're a single person or are in lockstep on a certain topic. Honestly makes you look ridiculous. 😂
What has Joe Borrow ever done? A one yr cigar smoking wonderlick who didn't see Chase wide open for the Super Bowl winning TD w/Ramsey laying on the ground again. That clown, better than Goff 🤣😅😆
Jared Goff's Super Bowl was vs. the G.O.A.T. not some 1 year cigar smoking wonderlick Stafford faced. Goff faced Billicheat's Pats not the Bungles who McVay admitted being out-coached him lining up 6 on the D-Line to take away the Rams jet sweeps.
And what system do the Lions run??? That would be a Dan Campbell bacterized version of Rams Sean McVay's system Jared Goff installed. Hate, hate, hate Is 97.1 located in Chicago? Is this a Detroit radio station?
@@andreweldridge1236 its just annoying if Hooker does prove to be better and he takes over in a couple years ,Valenti will be like oh I knew it all along,Goffs a bum yadda yadda
This was a no brainer deal. A guy who has shown he can win and can overcome adversity. They continue to insulate Goff and the Super Bowl is a reality!
Lots of adversity! Dude is a beast!
It’s 170m guaranteed. He can earn up to 212m. At 170 it’s just over 42m a year. It’s a good deal for both parties. I’m glad it’s over and not an issue this season when we are trying to win a championship.
After Goff wins a Super Bowl for Detroit we will still hear how it was everybody but Jared who won it.
And when he doesn’t we will still hear how it was all the guys around him.
What’s your point?
It was all because of Chris speilman!
This team is always one unlucky play away from Hendon Hooker suddenly being the most important player on the team. And you guys think a 3rd round pick is too much to spend on that? You’ve got to be kidding me.
I don’t know how you can’t be happy with this. He’s a franchise QB that has taken us further in one year than any other lions QB has done in my lifetime. If you’re complaining about this just accept you’ll never be satisfied with anything.
So since HE took “us” further.
Was HE also the reason “we” lost to the 49ers.
Ah. I see.
You act like goff didn't have the best o line in football protecting him, the best running back duo in the league, AND arguably the best receiver room in the league to throw the ball to. My guy needs all that to be relevant. Goff isn't the QB you WIN because of.
Stay salty @@thomaswatkins3686
@@thomaswatkins3686he was not the reason we lost lol
@@juvli1394the receiver that was a 4th round pick? Who really started showing out in his 2nd year after a full year to develop with his starting qb? Yeah bad take.
"You're a ton of fun at parties...." Valenti is one of the funniest podcasters out there. He has so many mic drop moments each week.
A Loser comment like that from the texter means they don't even get invited to parties. What a Moron!
As a Lions fan I love this deal. And we have a great team around him.
STONEY! STONEY! STONEY!
I even saw posters today claiming Matt Stafford is also responsible for the Lions turn around 😁😅🤣 Only by getting his azz traded.
Matthew Stafford is as much responsible for the Lions turnaround as you and me...NONE!
The last thing Stafford was responsible for in Detroit was the playoff loss he suffered to the Lions.
@@artmeddaugh6669 Hey now let’s give Stafford some flowers. He was the 1st draft pick we made in the post Millen era, and despite not winning anything the Stafford era was a significant improvement over the Millen era
Man, gotta tip your cap, Rico's on fire today; yeah he gets slandered in the comments a lot, but when he's on, he's REALLY on!
I’m still not mad at the hooker pick. The lions exceeded everyone’s expectations last year I don’t think the front office knew Goff would take us to the championship game. Now if Goff goes down the lions still have a shot of winning it all. Who else has that type of insurance?
As a Vikings fan, I can say that you guys have a Super Bowl team at least for the next two years and now is your time to capitalize on your window, unlike my Vikes from 2017-2019
It’s beyond the next two years you must not know who brad Holmes is lol
@@solomo3456 it’s always shorter than you think
You NEED a back up quarterback. Who cares it was a 3rd rounder.
Goff goes down with an injury, he could be the guy to keep things going
Brad Holmes is showing he's an all-around amazing GM this off-season. His working of the cap has been masterful. Oh and he drafted us 3 more starters
Mike nailed it! Someone is worth what someone else is willing to pay and someone else is willing to accept. STFU my fellow lions fans. He won you a division and TWO playoff games and to the verge of a superbowl. We were eating Ramon noodles three years ago and now we’re eating filets.
What the hell are Ramon noodles?
Razor Ramon?
Lions fans are happy we got our quarterback secured for the future. It's the SOL Fans that give their toxic takes
@@thomaswatkins3686machismo!!
@@MikeHard313f the bandwagon ass sol fans! Any true Lions fan trusts in Brad/mcdc. I wasn't 100 but I was pretty sure Goff would rise to the challenge, but he more than surpassed my expectations! JEROD GOFF, JEROD GOFF, JEROD GOFF!!!!!
JARED GOFF! JARED GOFF!
Why are up in arms over a 3rd round pick for Hendon Hooker? You know how many 3rd round picks don’t even get used and just get traded at the deadline, or end up as depth pieces and not starters because GMs are evaluating fewer and fewer 1st round grades on prospects. Hooker will probably never take a snap here, but I like that we got someone with a good deep ball, good size and good athleticism as a back up to Goff. Goff is the guy, I feel better about having Hooker behind him than Nate Sudfeld… that’s for sure. If that cost a 3rd round pick than oh well
Does anybody know what the repercussions to the salary cap would be after a year if we decided to go with Hooker and trade Goff
Who cares. Hooker ain't been to hell and back and proved himself like Goff!
Lmao. Hooker is a backup. Get over it.
Rico, why did you mention Deshaun Watson? We want Stoney back!
No Rico Jared Goff is worth $53 MIL a year, deal with it buddy.
When did he say he wasn’t?
Mike looks like he could be Andrew Schultz’s brother.
Probably not going to be drafting high anytime soon so it was a good thing to lock up a quality qb.
Look at the guarantee money not the overall contract if 212 mil. 170 over 4 yrs with the potential earn 212 with incentives. 4 yr at 170 mil is 42 mil and even that money is going to be tax.
I think we still need receivers especially with the early bye week.
Ricco mentioned the spider man meme, take a shot
Rico you answered your own question about Hendon Hooker. Last year you're correct about Bread not fully believing in Goff last year. That is why they drafted Hendon,I believe. To either be the next quarterback or like you said be the backup quarterback
Goff earned it. The Lions had to pay him. Now, they need to go win the Super Bowl within the next two years.
He’s worth actually what they paying him. 42.5 a year including this year coming up. You got him at a bargain period! Now he must win period not just get there.
I love how people can sit there and say Goff isn’t a good Qb. The only reason he’s doing anything is because of the talent around him. I mean it is a team fucking game. The dude can play ball. He’s smart. He doesn’t make many mistakes. He’s great in play action. He loves this team and more importantly loves this city. Goff is happy to be here. Why shit on him? We have a guy that wants to bring us a championship. He wants to do it for the city of Detroit. He has experience in the playoffs. Why would we let him go and go with a rookie that hasn’t seen the field and is coming off an injury? It’s hard to find a qb in this league. So let’s not complain about it. Instead be happy we have a good qb that works well with this system. He deserves it
hendon hooker was a great pick. jared goff will get injured at some point, mike and rico are short-sighted.
if goff gets hurt, hooker isnt gonna save the season. So no, not a great pick lol
TUA IS NOT GOING TO MAKE MORE THAN GOFF!!
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YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST!
Wanna bet?
Let's see how Hendon Hooker looks this preseason and make our judgements on this deal. The only problem would be if Hooker looks like John Elway, but that's a good problem to have.
Surprise sane take from Valenti and Rico. Not surprised they take credit for calling the right amount.
If you lop off the 13.6% increase in the cap, his contract is equivalent to $46M last year. This is a QB that can win us a ring on a discount(as long as Ben stays). Those savings can be used to extend Hutch, LaPorta, Alim, AND splurge on a couple FA's if needed.
Ben leaving is our potential kryptonite but maybe a front loaded contract helps hedge against the possibility.
Leave it to Valenti to find a negative take to piss on the fans.
Is he wrong tho
At 10:33 "If Brad Holmes thought he was worth 40 he wouldn't have paid 53". So it was previously stated that they weren't close to a deal. Either Goff was asking for more and Holmes talked him down or Holmes was trying to pay him less and Goff talked him up. I highly doubt Goff was asking for more than 53/year. Goff won this negotiation and Holmes lost, but at least the fans are happy and the culture is preserved.
Too many fans are worried about how winning looks. Just win. Don’t care if we score 3 or 30. Just win.
It’s really a 5 year deal at $245M with $180M in guarantees.
H2 in 2 Yrz 😮 Perfect 🔙
From a standpoint of age, regardless of how next season goes, even if he has an awful year, he's still under 30, he's about the same age as Patrick mahomes. So, he has a great chance of leading the lions to a super bowl, my guess would be he would be around longer than 4 years, he won't even be 35. So, I think he could still have arguably 8 good highly productive seasons left. I mean, my question would be if the lions believe Jared Goff to be the guy at qb, and obviously the answer is yes, then, why not sign him to a 6 or 8 year deal? What's the difference? If you're willing to pay him 54 million a year, why not extend it for 6 or 8 years, then Goff would be closer to the end of his career. But, obviously, as far as qbs, this is the going rate, you have to pay, you have to be willing to spend money.
Golf is going to stay in his lane not get hurt could go undefeated
Idk about Undefeated but I fully expect them to win 13-15 games next year. They're absolutely loaded these days
Folks think Hooker could step in and not miss a beat. I think they're wrong.
Idk of any Lions fan that’s upset with this deal.
I think Hendon Hooker’s arc is what slowed this deal. Let’s remember Goff is NOT GOOD without a good OL. Many QB’s would thrive in Detroit. Kirk Cousins could be MVP. Hooker looks GOOD. Here’s why this was good for Detroit: keep everyone happy, let Hooker develop, if he’s the real deal you extend him in two years, trade Goff for multiple firsts to a team in need of a QB, spread the money to Gibbs, J Will, LaPorta, keep the OL top 5, and let Hook loose.
Dak will be the only other QB to get that type of number if the premise it to get paid per performance possibly Brock Purdy but that’s it no one is doing another Daniel jones contract without winning that’s why we waited to sign him forget the price they was going to pay it anyway hooker waiting will allow us to decide wether to pick up that final year of this extension or let hendon be the future at 28 after being the backup this is the best scenario for our team to sustain it’s current success so thank you Jared Goff buy all the buffs you want! 1️⃣ pride
JG16 🎩 5 EZ ⚒️🦁💙
Top 5 backup costs 5-10M if hooker is a top 5 backup for 1-2M it’s not a bad pick
SB24-2/3by 2030 🦁⚒️💙
People said the same about Stafford's signing, over priced, in within a couple years he was barely top ten salary, the same thing is gonna happen here but with more dubs haha go lions
Exactly, we've lived through this same talking point less than a decade ago.
Awful deal. No good QB being paid superstar money has won a SB in salary cap era. Goff is great when the rest of the roster is great. That soon will be impossible to have. But teams do this because it keep them good
Hendon did make sense he is security do y’all watch college football on this show…
Mike has a hard on for the Lions drafting Hooker. Who TF you want as a back John Brown from Kroger. Jesus Christ Hooker just needs to be good to replace Jarred if he has to miss games.
Am I the only one that notices that Mike routinely gets frustrated/annoyed with Rico? And rightfully so. Rico has 100% made the show worse and ratings have undeniably dropped since he came on as co-host. Yes they have fun and joke around sometimes, but it's pretty obvious Mike is a lot more intelligent than Rico. 8:45 for context.
Lions either sign Goff for market value and try to win a Super Bowl or they turn it over to Hooker and waste the best opportunity this team has ever had. If you don’t accept this as reality you’re stupid. I think a lot of Lions fans don’t understand that winning isn’t cheap.
Valenti such a animated drama queen..lol
I honestly don't know of ANY Jared Goff fans. Maybe in Detroit. I don't live in Detroit. Stop making the standard "winning playoff games". Superbowl should be the standard for this kind of money. You mentioned Tua; I don't think Tua plus Goff will GO TO a Superbowl in the next four years.
Lions fans upset by how much he got paid are just unintelligent people. There are only 6 QBs in the NFL I'm taking over Goff and every one of them is in the AFC
Why dont these guys, look at the Guaranteed money it's close to 43-44 million a yr it's a Great contract with a out after 3 years.
I don't know anyone who is upset Goff got paid, the opposite in fact, y'all love to make it sound like a large percentage of people are upset, that's just plain false.
I’m not happy because cause I don’t believe Goff can win and he won’t
Who's Danny Dimes? FYI - Tua is #1 on the NFL Deadpool, pass. Dak claims he will be first to make $60 MIL, Dak??? Watson was impressive before Message-Gate. Seattle got a steal w/Geno Smith. Lions paid a fair price.
Daniel Jones of Mike’s NYG.
My god dude. SLOW DOWN.
All you keep posting is these strange emotional word salads with a bunch of misspellings. You’re literally responding to yourself here.
It’s massage!!!!
Stop looking at Lions fans as a single entity LOL. The Lions fan base, like every other fan base, is a group of people with opinions all over the spectrum. You guys bad mouth "the fans" as if we're a single person or are in lockstep on a certain topic. Honestly makes you look ridiculous. 😂
That's Rico who always does that
What has Joe Borrow ever done? A one yr cigar smoking wonderlick who didn't see Chase wide open for the Super Bowl winning TD w/Ramsey laying on the ground again. That clown, better than Goff 🤣😅😆
If I knew who Joe Borrow was I would tell you. No idea what this idiocy with cigar smoking is either. What a bizarre post.
Who said Goff would take 25 million? Rico saying nonsense like usual
I’ve heard dozens of fans call into the show saying he should take a hometown discount of $25-$30M
If they did it last year these 2.. fine gentlemen.. would have crucified the lions. Done at 2:15.. ✌️
Jared Goff's Super Bowl was vs. the G.O.A.T. not some 1 year cigar smoking wonderlick Stafford faced. Goff faced Billicheat's Pats not the Bungles who McVay admitted being out-coached him lining up 6 on the D-Line to take away the Rams jet sweeps.
So basically
Excuse. Excuse. Excuse. Everybody but Goff. Got it.
Can they please just get rid of Rico and get Mike a cohost with 2 braincells to run together?
Old average will regress won’t win shit with him
Must be a Hooker fan
$50 MILLION + A YEAR YALL
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FOR ANY ATHLETE IN ANY SPORT IS
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100% INSANE!!!
Times are changing my man.. unlike our employers, the NFL adjusts to inflation
@@robe9075
So, you won’t mind spending
$1,000 to go to a game in a yr or two then?
Ok!
@@thomasdonner2495 I didn’t say that
And what system do the Lions run??? That would be a Dan Campbell bacterized version of Rams Sean McVay's system Jared Goff installed. Hate, hate, hate Is 97.1 located in Chicago? Is this a Detroit radio station?
this show stinks
You stink
lol i normally like Valenti but in two years they havnt won jack and have regressed hes gonna do his usual flip the script lions are bums schtick
I mean if they do bad for that long why would he be nice lol
To be fair, they’re sports radio hosts, it’s their job. It’s why when my wife says I should talk sports for a living I can’t take the idea seriously
@@andreweldridge1236 its just annoying if Hooker does prove to be better and he takes over in a couple years ,Valenti will be like oh I knew it all along,Goffs a bum yadda yadda
@@jasondeslatte7611he wouldn’t say that
how the fuck have they regressed wtf